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I hear you like horror movies. You're listening to Unbound and
Rewound. Hello everyone, and welcome back
to another episode of the Unbound and Rewound Horror
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Podcast, where we dive deeper into every horror book and movie
for a closer look at their bone chilling anatomy.
I am Avery. You're carefully fearfully host
and I am joined today by two people that are possibly as in
love with each other as they arewith horror.
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So please introduce yourself to the wonderful people.
Hello everyone, I'm Christy. I'm Asia, did you forget your?
Name. Hey, look.
Hey, look, it's early. It wasn't it wasn't rehearsed.
You know what I'm? Saying and we are in love with
horror. Thank you so much for having us,
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Avery. We're excited.
Yeah. Thank you so much.
Oh my God, yeah. Listeners, listen.
We, me and In Love with horror have been.
You can't see me, but I'm interlocking my fingers right
now. We've been on the come up.
I, I feel like we've been on thecome up together as, as
podcasters, like we started verysimilar times and like, so our
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growth has been so sort of just like simultaneous and I've, I've
loved to see it. And so if you all haven't
checked out Christy and AJ, please, please do.
But today I asked them to come to the podcast because after
this summer of releases and something absolutely so
astronomically important, that is Final Destination 6.
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I said. Maybe we should talk about that.
Maybe we should unpack that because I feel like people's
opinions on the franchise are a little different.
There's, you know, there's some controversies, there's some
there's some non controversies, but I figured we'd lay it out
all right here and talk about our top three of the franchise,
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get a little bit more in depth about how we're feeling about
the franchise now that there's going to be a 7th one after the
6th one came out. So I feel like this is just this
attempt check for the Final Destination fans out there.
I asked Christine AJ to bring 1 honorable mention, but their top
three favorite final destinationmovies so that we can sit down
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talk about them and possibly rank rank the top three of the
franchise. You will be hearing it here
first folks, and this is this will be factual of what we say
goes. So I just think maybe we should
just dive right in. But first, I want to talk about
kind of like where we started with Final Destination because I
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feel like everyone has such a vivid memory of like,
discovering it for the first time, the way that it impacted
their life. There is a whole generation of
people who never went to the tanning salon because of this
damn franchise. So we'll start with AJ.
Do you want to talk about kind of like, do you remember
watching if you watched like thefirst Final Destination first or
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if you watched another one out of order of the franchise?
Yeah, so I, I think for me actually like, 'cause my Christy
will tell you and our audience will tell you, like my, my
memory sometimes be foggy, but Ithink my first, my first place
with Fondest Nation actually came with Fondest Nation too.
That's like my first memory thatI have of the franchise, 'cause
I don't remember watching the first one until like sometime
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later. But that that second one, I do
remember that. I do remember watching that like
back in the day and that openingscene, like always being like
super impactful, unforgettable. And then after that, I don't
know like when or how I started to deep down into the franchise.
I don't know when I went back tothe first one.
But from there, you know, once, you know, years later, once 3
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came out and stuff like that, I just continued on and then
eventually revisited that first one.
But that second one was like my first place with the franchise.
Unforgettable intro to a horror movie.
Yeah, I'm interested to see how that might place in your top
three ranked, if it even places at all.
So could. Be controversial, Could be
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could. Be What about you, Christine?
Well, seeing as though I'm olderthan everyone here for this
conversation, I watched the first one when it came out, the
first Final Destination. And that's and it's probably why
I like this one better. I don't know if that plays a
part in it or not, but I have such an attachment to this
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movie. Like the first movie, It's.
Were you watching? It's still good to me.
I don't know why, but I did watch it when it first came out.
I remember being at school and all the kids talking about this
crazy ass movie. And I was like, OK, well, I got
to go see this, you know, because I got to be in with
everyone else. Yeah.
So. Yeah.
And then obviously when back to school talking about it.
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Oh, my God, you guys, that's so crazy.
I was already scared of flying, but this really impacted.
Impacted. No.
And still impacts to this day. Still like people, people are
afraid of pennies now how? How can you even Hello, no, I
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definitely the first one. Just like cultural shift
altogether. Also big, big thing with planes
between the year of like 2000 and 2005.
Will avoid the obvious reason why here, but I like even red
eye. Like you have red eye and you
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have all these other movies thatare so centric to like planes or
it's like, OK, what's what's going on?
Let's unpack this a little bit more.
For me, it was Final Destination3 and 'cause I actually do think
similar to Aji watched Final Destination three first 'cause I
think that came out like when itcame out, I was at an age where
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I could comprehend it and like watch it and thoroughly enjoy
it. And I think too, it's just like
that was such a time of like it was so I guess like in tune with
the way that it's targeted generation was so like like like
I was saying tanning salons likethat was such a big thing.
My mom, her friends, my aunt, like everyone was going to the
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tanning salon and well, they didn't after that movie came
out. And it was just so like, I mean,
watching that for the first likethat being my first introduction
to find out destination and thengoing through and watching the
other ones, such a strong trilogy.
And then you have all the other ones that come out after that.
And it still sort of remains so close to my heart because also
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just the the acting is so good. And it's, well, I mean, Mary
Elizabeth Winstead, we don't have to listen.
She, she deserves her flowers. But yeah, definitely, definitely
a cultural impact. And I'm so glad that it's back.
I it's truly one of those franchises that I feel like now
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I think we can all here agree the, the requels, the revamps,
the all of that. It's a little, it's a little old
at this point, but Final Destination is one of those
franchises that it's, it's kind of like gold where you can, you
know, like there's always something there.
There's always a little bit of substance there to pull from.
And so I think that especially with Jeffrey Riddick still
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attached to it, I think that that's that's keeping things
good and going. Yeah, and I love that, that he
is still such a, you know, a part of it 'cause it kind of
keeps the groundness of it. And the.
Relatability, 'cause I mean, what he did with that first
movie, even though they changed some things, we gonna let that
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be what it what it is. Yeah, it's still iconic.
You know what he did. So it's absolutely still.
Part of that, yeah, it's it's always good to have that, you
know, the soul of the franchise still there.
Like that's a lot of things. That's that's the key that I
think a lot of the recalls and stuff miss out.
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So, you know, having that personthere that was there at the
beginning really helps to, you know, keep the soul of the
franchise there. Absolutely, which is why, like
I, well, we'll talk about this alittle bit more later because
the letterboxed review that I picked for my top one sort of
speaks into this point. But I feel like Tony Todd is
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just as much of the heart of this franchise as Jeffrey
Riddick. Just because like when you think
of Final Destination, you think of his voice, you think of that
character of like this person who knows death, who understands
what you're going through, the only person that you can really
like truly seek advice from. And he, I mean, he was involved
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with almost every single one to some extent except for five.
I think he was in his voice was in three, which, you know,
suiting. And then of course, he's in six.
And it's just, I'm so glad that he was able to sort of like send
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off his legacy in such an impactful way.
Agreed. I mean, I was about to be be who
crying in that? Theater when?
That part. Was up.
I didn't even think it was goingto be that emotional.
Honestly. I was like, OK, well he's going
to be the movie. It's still sad, but actually
being like hearing what he had to say, it was just like.
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Like he was speaking beyond the movie.
Like, yeah, it was extremely emotional.
I was like, wow, that that little monologue was incredible.
But. You said it was a perfect way,
Avery, to kind of like close outthat chapter, I think for sure.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think them just letting him improvise, just being like,
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whatever we have on that script,forget about it.
You speak to your audience and your fans right now.
And I don't think we would have gotten what we have now had that
not had that freedom not been given.
And I, I think like film makers like that who are able to
recognize the communities and the energies outside of the
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production they're currently working on in order to like
bring that into the film and bring that into the final
product is so special to me. Like I'm, I'm a big fan of
fanservice. I know some people hate it but I
I always love it. I agree, I like fanservice too.
Yep, I'm all about it. You, you can.
I think you can overdo it, but when it's done right, I'm all
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about it. And Scream Scream 7 is very good
example of fanservice. Going bad.
I digress. So as we get into this
conversation, I felt like maybe first we can start with some
with the honorable mention. You know, we're listing off our
top three, but there are 6 filmsin the entire franchise.
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So was there one that you felt like, you know, it deserves a
little love, but not the love ofthree, two or one?
I like how you just put your allyours right there.
Well, we'll probably disagree 'cause I think 2 is my honorable
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mention. Yeah, Christy, Christy and I's
lists are the exact same. So our rankings for the movies
are the same. Tries to be like me.
No, you try to be like me. Come on now you try.
To be like me. But so our, our honorable
mention will be the same, but yeah #2.
OK. And yeah, go ahead, Christine.
Oh. Yes, 'cause he cut me off, yeah.
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My bad. I was, I was putting it out
there. I like to, but I don't like the
characters into they are my lastnerve.
I see, I can. I can totally understand that.
That mom. Listen, that mom and her braid.
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That shit pisses me off. I was just like, I don't like
these people, but I like everything else.
Like I like the the kills in that movie.
It's just the people. I just can't stand them.
And so for that, it's kind of like not in my time.
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I think you have a different reason, AJ, why you didn't put
the swinger. Yeah, yeah.
For me, I actually didn't the character, the characters didn't
bother me. I kind of like some of the
characters. My issue was more like how the
movie flows it, it kind of, it jumps like the pacing is very
awkward and it kind of like jumps from place to place.
And then how some of the story points occur, like how Clearz
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kind of pops up like in their driveway, like random shit like
that. I'm like, what the you know.
And it wasn't until watching later in life where, you know,
really noticed, like, oh, this movie actually isn't that good.
It just has really good kills. You know what I'm saying?
Like the kills, That's what for me, that's what makes the
honorable mention is the kills are incredible.
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Like even to this day, like someof the effects, like have
withstood the test of time. Like that shit is amazing, but
the movie as a as a movie structurally and pace in and all
that, like it is, it's not a good movie.
Yeah, and I feel like part part of the reason too.
Final Destination 2 still has like the one survivor,
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technically 2 for thinking aboutTony Todd, but it still has that
one survivor that also everyone loves.
Like I, I see her and I'm just like, I see you, I know what
you're about. I know what you're about to
deliver. And, and it feels like a true
sequel in the, you know, traditional sense.
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But then all of the other films don't because you're following
different people. So I wonder if part of the
reason why 2 feels that way is because they were trying to
approach it in that manner of like this is we're gonna follow
this up, keeping this storyline going when really it's not
intended to. Everyone needs to die and move
on. Yeah, but I definitely I I agree
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with the kills. The kills are so good.
I hated, hated that smoking woman, the short haired girl.
She was so infuriating. But that her scene, like I feel
like that scene in the in the field is wow chefs kiss.
I agree wholeheartedly. That's probably my favorite
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scene, just how everything linesup and plays out.
It's. Just.
So good. I'm like, who the hell thought
about this shit? Yeah, 22 is good at that. 2 is
very good at like subverting your expectation.
When you think the kills going to happen, It's like I see you
thought what happened right here.
Like now we set it up like it's going to.
Happen like this. You don't even expect it and
it's dope like that. That's what, yeah, that's what I
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was about to say. Because especially like in the
hospital towards the end when you have like they're trying to
go save him, they think that Oh my gosh, the baby's being born.
Someone's like, you don't know who's about to die.
There are three people who can very well go and you're like, I,
there's no way that I'm going toguess this, but that's something
that I like about. I feel like there are movies
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within the franchise that don't necessarily align with ones that
came before them, but like they all have elements of each other
in them, which is one reason whymy honorable mention is 5
because I actually don't rank itat all.
I don't think it's one of the best, but I do obviously love
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the ending and I I feel like that's just an example of like
the way that they try to make each one different but still
work it back to its source material.
And the same thing with the kills in that one.
Like the bridge was so catastrophic and so stressful.
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I can't talk about no bridge scene, it tears my nerves.
No, because like, you know, sure, an airplane, plane crashes
don't happen that often, right? There are people who
continuously check those planes.They have their quality
assurance bridges. Those things have been up too
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long. Exactly.
I don't think they're getting. Checked do bridges and I can't
do it. As a matter of fact I was
driving home yesterday or day before yesterday and there were
people working on the bridge on one lane and the other it was
open. I was in my head I'm thinking
where are we working on the bridge?
Why would people driving over it?
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Hello, just close it down just. Close the bridge down.
Maybe there's another way? Yep.
Take the detour. Take the detour.
But similar to to Final Destination too, I feel like it
does subvert your expectations with the kills and like
something in five, it just feelslike the kills, it's like a
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little extra fateful. Like I guess it's subverting
your expectation because it seems like this person's going
to die this way, but they're actually dying a different way.
But in that it's also like, oh, you're gonna die no matter what.
Like I think, I think about the eye, the laser eye scene
specifically, especially becauseyou have like the dentist seen
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before and like that whole thing.
So that's in your mind from 2. I think it is yes, that's
already in your mind. And then with this laser eyes,
the laser eye scene, you're like, well, I've seen this
before and turns out actually, no, she escapes.
She's just still meant to die. And I think that's the worst
part is you can fight for your life, but if it's meant to be,
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it's going to happen. It's.
Nothing you can do about it. Yeah, yeah.
I'm with you on that. Yeah, I even like how, like, you
know, each movie they try to setup like, oh, how you can beat
it. And I like the concept in this
one of how you can beat it by murdering somebody else and
taking their life. But, you know, with death, it's
like, yeah, you could do that. And they did that.
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But surprise, like, apparently this dude's gonna die any day,
you know what I'm saying? So I just thought it was even
funny in the fact of like, even when you think that you beat
death, death is like, like, Nah,like this is all laid out.
I'm. I'm already one up on you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And I do really like the wrap
around on the end of that one. I was like, I didn't see that
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coming. Surprise 2000, the year 2000.
And it's funny, 'cause you're watching the movie, you're like,
man, I didn't even think about what year it.
Is no, Yeah. It never occurs to you until
just in that moment we were. I was talking about have you
ever seen the movie Remember Me with Robert Pattinson?
Yeah, OK. Yep, that ending.
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Yes. And that's the same thing where
it's like, you don't even consider the time in which this
movie is taking place until the very end.
And you're like, oh, wait. Whoa.
Yep. OK, let me rewind then watch it
through a different lens. But also say, yeah, like final
season 5, the the gym, the gymnast scene is probably one of
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the craziest kills in the entirefranchise.
I I think about it probably likeonce a week actually.
I can't watch that scene. I get to a certain point and I'm
like, OK, let me turn my head. It's a brutal, it is a brutal
death, like it. And it's like one of those ones
where it's a full shot, you knowwhat I'm saying?
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And just boom, like, like it happens.
And it, yeah, it's, it just makes you cringe looking at it.
Yeah, and it's one of those thatprobably does like it's lead up
is probably one of the longest too, because I think there are
so many times where it's like, OK, well it's going to happen
now. Oh, just kidding, maybe now.
Oh, maybe not. It really plays with you on
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that. I like the way they does that
because, yeah, you're like anticipating it and then it
doesn't happen. You're like, OK, well, maybe not
at all. And then boom.
Yeah, Jack, she's jacked up. Yeah, and I, I think that Final
Destination as a whole has neverbeen super reliant on jump
scares. It's all about that building
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tension and, and like playing with your emotions and your
expectations in such a skillful way.
And I I wish that like modern horror movies sort of like took
a note from that, you know, especially Blum House, but not
to not to throw a stray their way.
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No offense. Yeah, they definitely haven't.
They've lost sight of that for. Sure.
Yeah, no, for sure. Alright, so then moving on to
three, what is it? Your third ranked Final
Destination movie in the franchise?
We're gonna start with AJ. 3rd ranked for me, that is going to
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be #3 #3 actually is a, is our third ranked.
Yeah, I think that it's, it's for a couple different reasons.
One, like story wise, I think itworks really well.
Also like the characters in thatthe kills are really good.
And then just comparing it to the rest of the franchise,
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especially the ones that came after it, it just it's far
better just as a movie. And so I think naturally it just
gets placed in our number three spot just for that reason.
But yeah, I like I like the characters, like the way things
flowed in this in this movie. And then of course, the the
kills are are dope in this one. So I think it deserves the the
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number 3 for us. OK, 3 for three, Christine.
I agree with that being the third one because I think I, I
like this one a lot more becauseI felt the emotional weight of
what was happening in this one alittle bit more.
I'm kind of going back to what you said earlier every about the
second one feeling, you know, like a true sequel.
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I think because this one is totally fresh, I think it feels
like a different movie but stillgives you that same gut punch
that the first one gives. Absolutely, yeah.
And I just like the way, like AJsaid, it flows a little bit
better and the kills. And then again, like all these
movies, gives us things to be afraid of.
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Always. Like, this one gives you, like,
this whole new list of things that you didn't even think about
and had like, yeah, about this movie a lot.
Yeah, I can't tell you the last time I went to Home Depot or
Lowe's and, well, I've never touched a nail gun and never
will. And that's just mine.
That's just the way I choose to live.
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No, I definitely, I think that especially when it comes to
those earlier ones, I feel like what which one sort of place
higher than the other is also reliant on the first one because
there is so much attached to that first one too.
Which is why I ranked the three,because I though I don't feel
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like the first one is the best in the franchise.
It feels wrong to list it any lower than a three.
Like it's like that's the sourcematerial.
How can I not recognize it? And I do think it has such a
different energy from the rest, the same that I think 3 does,
but for a different reason. Like I just think Death's
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presence seems to be ever evolving in this franchise.
And I think like in the first, in the first five films, it is
very like, OK, he's this intangible, like presents who,
who just effects things. And then like in one, he
literally is like pushing the water out and then sucking it
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back. It like, you know, it's it's so
like you can't really ever pin down how death operates
necessarily. And so I feel like Final
Destination three, I really likethe way that death is presented
in that movie particularly. But I think that later on in the
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films, it's it's almost like Final Destination 3 and Final
Destination the first one come to a head with their concepts of
this more like paranormal aspectto the the whole concept I.
Agree. We actually talked about that.
How it's not the same, but we I think we like the way it
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operates more in the first one you look at how you don't agree
with me. Well, no, no, no, no, you're
right. I was like processing it in my
head. Like I was trying to go over all
the different movies because because Avery Avery is right in
the fact that like, like each movie, like deaths, like
influence and power is very different.
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And what death can control or touch like 3 has a lot of like
just like circumstantial, like placement of like, you know,
real life stuff just happened tohappen a certain kind of way.
Like this effects this and this chain reaction and then other,
other moments in some of the franchise you have like the
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direct, like almost, you know, paranormal, supernatural.
Like accident. Yeah.
Yeah. But yeah, it's it's, it's very
inconsistent. But just because I think we
dislike supernatural stuff like then we're, you know, we're on
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board with the supernatural, like actual like deaths actually
doing like. Right.
Actual stuff. Yeah, 'cause I mean, also the
initial concept for Final Destination was that it's a
slasher, but with death, like death is the slasher here.
And so I feel like it makes sense for part of that to be
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unexplainable. Like, no, yeah, death is making
these things happen and then making them look like they were
accidents. How does that, how is that
possible? We don't know, but we don't have
to know because, well, that's death.
But that's also why moving on tothe second, it's final
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destination bloodlines, because I felt like final destination
Bloodlines took what final destination the first one wanted
to do with death and what the third one did with death and
almost like combined them. It felt like such a perfect
balance of of like death being this very like sort of like
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omniscient presence that you don't know where he is, what
he's doing, when he'll strike. But then also like when you have
the grandmother in particular inthe way that she talks about
him, it's very much like his presence is always there.
Like it's just he feels there's such a weight to that movie in
terms of how death presents itself that I really, really
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enjoyed learning about too, because it just expanded the
entire universe that they're building.
Agreed, I think this one is our second one as well.
Yeah, I do like the honor it gives to the previous films and
then kind of like doing its own thing at the same time.
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And kind of like what you talked, we talked about the top
of the conversation about like it having those generational
connections. I feel like this one it kind of
like expands across multiple generations.
Absolutely. And that giving us that fan
service in a way to like connecting with those who
started out at the beginning of this, but also bringing in that
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attachment to the newer generation.
And it does it so well, which issuch a hard thing to do, I think
nowadays because, you know, me being older, I don't know a lot
of this new stuff. But marrying those things
together, I think they did it very seamlessly.
And I personally didn't like ourmain character, but it didn't
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matter because everything else was just like so flawless to me.
I was like, I don't give, it doesn't matter.
I don't like her. And I really love our opening
premonition. Like that shit was so freaking
good. Yeah, yeah, Way to.
Like, I love when like a situation like this happens
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where like a movie comes back ora universe comes back or
whatever the case is, and there's such a clear vision.
Like it's very you can tell thatthey set out to make something
of of substance and, and for thefans, but also like something
well crafted too. And sometimes you don't get
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those two things go hand in hand.
And so I felt like they recognized the generation, like
the generational span of these movies.
And that's almost why this moviefelt the way that it did.
It all just felt so intentional.And then of course, like the
opening and the way that, you know, record shows that they
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love to subvert expectations that really did you go in,
you're you're expecting a standard Final Destination
movie. Obviously you're excited 'cause
you're like, oh, new people, newkills.
But but it gives you so much more than that.
Absolutely. I'm just going to agree with
everything that was said and thefact that they really understood
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kind of what made people fall inlove with with Final Destination
and how they brought this back. And, you know, we've seen other
franchises kind of falter in that.
And it also makes me nervous with the fact that making a 7th
1:00 because we've seen some franchises where they came back
and the initial comeback was good, but then the rest of the
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movies kind of, you know, started to go down a certain
way. So it makes me a little nervous
with the 7th 1:00 because I'm like, Dang, like the 6th 1 was
perfect almost. But, but now, like everything
about that film, I think worked really well.
And also I'd like the just the because of the generational
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thing, it creates a lot of moments for like interesting
character and drama and stuff like that.
And kind of like, you know what?This what is discovered with the
family dynamics and, and shit like that.
But yeah. And then of course, the the
creativeness of of the kills and, and finding inventive ways
to, you know, create new fears. Yeah, Bloodlines really
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understood what the fans loved about the franchise and executed
pretty well. Most definitely.
And I also feel like we really need to talk about Richard
Harmon because what a presence he is to that entire film.
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I love when a horror fan is in ahorror movie, like, I don't
know, there's just something about the press and even just
like what they contribute to thefilm itself that feels so
genuine and like, I love watching.
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I loved watching him on screen and then also just his
interviews and him talking about, listen, one of his top 4
for Letterboxed was Halloween 3.And that's when I knew we see
each other, we see each other, but Halloween 3/2.
Thank you, thank you. I, I love finding Halloween 3
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stands because truthfully, I just feel like that's what John
Carpenter wanted. And I believe John Carpenter's
vision essentially on that. I loved Richard Harp in this
too. I think he was he my favorite
character. I feel like he was because he
was just so freaking hilarious. Yes and his his scene like his
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first scene. Are we?
Can we talk about spoilers? You know, I was just thinking
that I was like, I didn't even say a spoiler before this before
this entire episode, but spoilernow y'all?
OK, go. Yeah, that's why I was trying to
keep things vague because I wasn't sure like, oh, can I talk
about spoiler? No, Yeah, OK, go, because it's
also on streaming now, so we're good.
OK, cool, 'cause I was just so shocked, 'cause we saw his clips
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of his first scene in the trailer and so automatically
we're thinking, OK, this is it for him.
But then it's. Not it for him, he.
Pops back up. This goes so hard y'all.
That was the moment. That's the moment I said, oh, I
like sat up in my seat cause yeah.
I mean, everyone felt like they teased a lot of deaths in the
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trailer. I mean, people feel that way all
the time anyways, But you meet him and you're like you, you
have that scene in your mind because it's in the trailer.
It's also something that they teased so, so early on that
you're like, I don't want him todie this.
Soon, I know. And so yeah, like him coming
back, it's like, yeah. Because also I feel like in that
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scene where you learn, I think maybe it's in that scene where
you learn that he's he's alive, but then the other like blonde
headed girl, like that's when she dies and her death is
insane. Like because also the way that
the main character predict like predicts it not even trying to
and then it happens exactly thatsame way.
It's just who the T and it's it's the kind of campy
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ridiculousness that final destination needs at a time like
this. Really.
I. Agree.
I agree, even though Final Destination 1 is my first movie,
I do think it would have done better with having some a little
bit of more campiness 'cause it is much more of a serious tone.
Yes, so, but I still love it. So it's still number one for me.
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But this, this campiness and bloodlines is just like it's,
it's like icing on the cake. It's icing on the cake.
Yes, yes. And I like seeing it in IMAX,
which was crazy, but like, well,well, I wish I could go back in
time, actually. They re experienced like
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everything about it, yeah. We experienced the MRI scene in
particular, like seeing that in 4K IMAX, they're probably,
they're like, I mean, yeah, Alien Romulus was great in IMAX,
but the MRI scene, I don't know,might have a beat MRI.
Scene. I know I was gripping a JS leg
during that scene. Because Oh yeah, I.
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Just couldn't believe how far they went with it.
Yes. They went real far with it.
It was crazy. I was like also how many
piercings does this kid have? His whole body was pierced man,
and it was brutal man. I was like man, what's too bad
he didn't die in the tattoo parlour shit because this is
brutal. I know.
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Yeah. And then you also have the.
What I really liked was once thevending machine comes into play
and the the little coil and the way it's spinning in the MRI
Sheen in his head, I was they know how to make a lasting
impression. Yes.
Oh my gosh, wow, it's so good. The rethinking, like talking
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about it now, I'm like, maybe itshould be #1 all.
Right now. OK, AJ said.
Wait, not too much. Just bring.
Him back so good though is. Really.
Yeah. No, yeah, I definitely, I have
not rewatched it since since it wasn't theaters, so I have to
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give it a rewatch. Yeah, I do.
Yeah. I think it it was a really good
way of bringing the universe or the franchise back, but like
beneficially adding to the universe because, well, as we're
seeing, it's making space for new stuff and hopefully it
isn't. As to AJ's point, like I when it
was announced, I was a little hesitant because I record shows
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that these decisions aren't always the best, but I do, I
mean, Jeffrey Riddick still being a part of it.
I think all the same team is probably still a part of it as
well. So I have, I have strong hopes
that the same approach will be taken.
And I think that as long as it keeps that campiness, I feel
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like the 7th 1 would be probablysimilarly as strong to 6th.
Probably not as strong because, well, that was a comeback.
That was comeback like I'd neverseen before.
Absolutely. And you know, talking about
bringing back franchises, I don't know how you felt about, I
know what you did last summer, but that's like the most recent
one I could think of. And I'm just like, I don't need
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to, we don't need to do that again, so.
Well, Christy, I hate to say it.I know I.
Could see it on your face. Oh gosh.
I loved that movie, but I do think I do think part of it is I
I used the word diva a lot and so I saw myself, I saw myself in
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them. I do like I think that she was
the Jennifer. I don't remember what her full
name is, but the director and writer.
She did do revenge on Netflix. And I think that just like
dialogue wise, she wants to be silly.
She wants to be, you know, like contemporary.
She wants to be fun, but sometimes it it can be an
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overkill. And I feel like that's what a
lot of people's problems were with final Destiny or not Final
Destination. I know what you did last summer
as it pertains to like the characters themselves.
Yeah, I also know like, you know, the chase scenes and there
were there were things that justlike felt off brand for.
I know what you did last summer and.
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And that's OK. I'm I, But you know what?
I really liked Tyreek Withers. I.
Love him in that. Like I was not familiar with his
game before, but now that I am, I'm like, oh, he's going to eat
down in him. He's.
Absolutely. Oh yeah, 100%.
Excited because my first time seeing him in a role that I
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enjoyed a lot. I don't know, I've seen him in
other stuff but this was this was his lane for sure and I
cannot wait to see him in him. Yeah, him looks really good, but
Christy would tell you, I thought I know what you did last
summer. Was you going on that but.
Awful. Like, oh, I'm, I, I feel like, I
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feel like amongst man our community, I was probably the
only person who liked it. And that's OK.
It's that's OK. Yeah, Yeah.
It's not wrong. But you like what you like, you
know what I'm saying? We all, we all get that one
movie. We all get that one movie that
we, you know. Yeah.
Really. You know.
What? You know what I will say I saw
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it in four DX and I do think that had a little bit to do with
my experience. Yeah.
I felt like I was getting beat the hell up.
But you know what? It was fun.
Yeah. No, I can definitely.
I agree with you and I I don't think that there needs to be
another. I know what you did less like I
don't think they need to continue that and hopefully they
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don't, but who knows, we'll see.OK, so then going to one, what
is your #1? My number one is the first one.
OK. And I, you know, re watching I
was like, OK, well maybe it could be a nostalgia thing, but
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I still really like that movie like.
It's just dope. It lays out the concepts without
having to like, you know, spell it out for you like you're it's
kind of that old school horror feel, you know what I'm saying?
Like you didn't have to be forcefed anything.
We just follow along this story with this kid and it it
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basically pulls you into it. You know, like you're rooting
for these characters. Like after a while after maybe
like 3, I think we're done rooting for anybody.
You know, we're just watching this.
Y'all get get killed but in the first one you're definitely
attached to these people. And.
I just really love everything about the movie.
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The premonition obviously is iconic.
All of the kills in that movie are really good kills.
Even the girl. You know what?
Wasn't that the first movie where she got hit by the bus?
Yep. Yeah, that's the first movie
even even that was super simple.It's just the way she gets hit
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by the bus, like simple kill. But hey, she's in the middle of
a conversation and she gets hit,you know?
It's like, I don't know where. Yeah, no chance.
No chance at all. And even at the end when they
feel like, oh, they, they beat this shit and then we get the
little wind blowing. And then like.
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Oh, never mind. Yes.
Yep. I don't know.
I just love it. It's so.
It's so well done. Yeah, well written.
Yeah, it is. It is really well written.
I I love everything about one. The first movie is of course my
number one as well. And I'm kind of different than
y'all. I actually like it even more
because of the seriousness. So Christy will tell you like,
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like, I don't mind when stuff iscampy, but like, if you ask,
like, what's my preference? I like serious shit.
That's that's just me. So I actually really like the
serious nature of this film and like how serious everything's
being taken from, from how the FBI is investigating him
because, you know, why wouldn't they?
These planes blew up and then you got off screaming like it
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was going to blow up. Like we think we we think you
have something to do with it. You know, I'm saying so that's
like that's a part of the film. So I like a lot of the serious
tones of this movie. And then I I love the
characters. I like the way the movie feels,
the vibes, the the kills and andthe ending like and even like
just all the characters feel so good.
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Even how Bloodworth is is introduced.
Man Tony Todd, like that whole conversation is so far.
I ain't going to say it, you know, leave it alone.
You know what I'm saying, because I can't do it like how
he do it. Go ahead.
Go ahead, I'll give you a new platform.
He says it. But now it's so funny.
Oh yeah, and. You don't even want to fuck with
that Mac daddy and. There it goes.
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But Nah, man, that that movie isjust is like in like you said at
the beginning earlier that, you know, it, it kicked off the
franchise. You know, sometimes you get
franchises where a lot of the sequels do become even better
versions of the first one. But I feel like this franchise,
the original, like no other, none of the other films have
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been able to precisely capture exactly what that first one did.
And it's it just stands in the league of its own.
It's it's just dope. Yeah.
No, most definitely. And I think, I actually don't
think that it would have had such an impact if it were to be
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more campy. I think that the seriousness of
it made it what it was. And I think that especially for
it to be sort of a subversion ofthe slasher genre.
And like, slashers at that pointwere campy and were unserious to
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where it's like we're reintroducing you to something
that you haven't seen and you need to take it seriously.
And I yeah, I just think that like something about the first
film is every every movie, you're you're meeting new
people, new groups of people andyou're being thrown into their
lives. And so what's most important is
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for the actors is like to make you feel like you're just being
thrown into their friend group. Like these relationships are
already established, these connections, these, all of this
and that like Devin Sawa so good.
Like that rent was definitely due for him.
I do think, I do think he said that in an interview one time
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and while he was acting like it,but like even in like not
really. I think even with two, though,
it's not like a friend group, there's still like that that
group dynamic. There's still such a like
intense desire to survive that like they all.
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There's such a deep passion still.
And then also like the way with three so on and so forth.
But once you get to 4, four is where it feels like you're not
being thrown into a friend group.
Like these are all people who just so happen to be friends.
Like there's not, there seems tobe a lack of of emotional
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connection somewhere in there that not that makes you not want
to care about them. And same thing with five as
well. It just it feels like the
relationship dynamics are not asfirmly developed and just not as
not as strong as the ones previously.
Yeah, I agree with that. I think what like I said
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earlier, like once you get past #3 is like we're just watching
to see y'all die at this point. It's like.
And that that that's a great point because when you watch the
first one, when those kills do happen, like man, you feel and
you feel bad. You know these other films like
I'm looking forward to when theyget taken out of my.
Own this. Person next like I can't wait to
see how they get fucked up. But the first one, you're like
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like that first, that first death when you know his his boy
got taken out in the shower. Like like it was brutal.
You know that. Was a brutal kill.
Man, it was hard to watch like from a from just even an
emotional standpoint and that and that I feel like that's what
makes the first one just so muchmore impactful from that, that
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serious, you know, that serious,serious standpoint.
But. Well, 'cause also the way that
they handle his scene and just the way that his, I guess I, I
think they probably used all practical, but like, just the
practical effects of like his bloodshot eyes and his face
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growing more and more. Like there's such a gradual
display of what he's experiencing that like it, it
feels like you're just with him throughout the entire, like you
are with him until he dies. And it's really, yeah, like you
do feel the impact of that for sure.
Yeah, that was tough. I'm trying to think of what
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other death in that movie, really.
I always think about the teacher.
Man, yeah. And like, I I, I'm sorry, I I
kind. Of want her to die, she got on.
My nerves and that's OK. Yeah.
But the way she dies, yeah. It was good.
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Yeah. And then Alex is dumb.
This dumbass. I'm going to pick up the knife.
Something I do like. What are you doing?
Come on. I do, I am interested to know so
y'all have heard about the alternate ending of the baby?
I have not heard of this. No, never heard of that.
I'm excited. Now what?
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OK, so Alex was supposed to sacrifice himself where the the
electrocution, the like water, the all of that.
He's supposed to sacrifice himself and then Clear is
supposed to be pregnant with thebaby, which would then lead into
the concept for Final Destination 2 where it's like
new life. New life avoids death or
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something like that. Clearly they did not go that
route, but there was still a pregnant.
There was a pregnancy baby situation happening in Final
Destination 2, just not as strong.
That is interesting. Oh wow, didn't.
Take that route. Yeah, well, I I think it was
like, I almost wonder if maybe they didn't want to hark so much
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on the romance between Alex and Claire because it feels so like
it, it doesn't feel very established, but that almost
feels like the point, like it's supposed to be this like sort of
will they won't they. They never get a chance.
And that's part of the devastation.
Yeah. OK.
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Yeah, I can see that. Well, yeah, I feel.
Like, that might would have changed the way I felt about the
movie if they had, Yeah. That's and that's why they
didn't do it is because in test audiences, everyone wanted Alex
to survive you. Know, yeah, OK.
So. So they had, so they had, they
shot all of that and. OK, yeah, yeah.
Which so? So my #1 is, to no surprise,
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Final Destination 3. And yes, for nostalgic reasons,
Christine. We can't.
We can't help it. Partially, but you AJ you're
talking about, they filmed all of that made me think about the
DVD special feature of Final Destination 3 where you can
choose their fate. And so they've shot all of these
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different alternate scenes. And as you're watching the
movie, you can click through andlike choose.
So like when they're flipping the coin in the very beginning
at the, at the carnival or whatever, you can choose other
either heads or tails and that would change the, the way that
the scene unfolds from there. Same thing with the tanning bed
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scene. You can either like 73° or 76
and that changes. They still die, but it's just
like, it's just like how, how like does that sequence unfold?
You can, you're able to like change that, which is so cool.
And that's why I love physical media and I need that DVD
immediately that. Is super cool.
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Yeah, it was that's a good you were talking about special
features made me think about when I was a kid and I and I did
watch like special features for like certain movies and you
know, I thought now that I thinkabout it, you know, everything's
digital. You know what I'm saying?
Like and you know, for me and I'm sure other people, a lot of
times like physical media is expensive.
(51:35):
You know what I mean? Them 4K Blu rays is no joke.
So like you, you miss, you know,I kind of now that you're
talking about them, like I kind of miss looking at like the
special features in the behind the scenes.
Like, you know, sometimes they post it on YouTube and on social
media. So I get to see some of that.
Like with bloodlines, you know, I saw on YouTube like how they
filmed the the garbage truck head chopped.
(51:56):
Like that was cool. But yeah, like, yeah, physical
media, man, shout out physical media.
Bring it back. Yeah, no, I'm a big I'm a big
supporter of physical media. I recently got Psycho Beach
Party. I don't know if you've seen that
movie. It's absolutely ridiculous, but
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I was watching like I love the director commentary.
That's like one of my favorite bonus features of any movie is
the director commentary. I will sit through, it's like a
podcast but with visuals. Like you're watching the movie,
but you're listening to them talk about it.
And it's just like to me, my brain, my little nerd brain, I'm
like, yes, let me categorize allof this information.
(52:41):
But I do, yeah. I think that I was talking about
bonus features and stuff yesterday 'cause I was like,
that's how all this information comes out.
Like when you learn about these behind the scenes things,
usually it's from the director'scommentary or like the behind
the scenes, like the making of this movie on the DVD, all this
different stuff. But newer DV DS don't have
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special features like that. I think for sinners there's like
two or three bonus features and one of them has to do with the
the Juke joint dance scene. The other one has to do it's
like directors commentary. And the third one might be like
the remix special effects makeupor something.
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But it's just like it feels likethat is not something that
Hollywood prioritizes when making this physical media.
And I'm like for what reason 'cause I I need that?
Yeah, because they they used to have dedicated teams back in the
day like and their purpose was to film shit for the special
features and the behind the scenes and stuff.
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So. Yeah, and the menu, listen, the
main menu too was an art form initself.
That's completely. Died.
That is very true. I actually recently watched The
Haunting on DVD. Yeah, I don't know why I did
that. It was just something random I
did one day and the menu screen was super cool.
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Like you go to the house and allthe stuff comes in, like the
little icons come in together and I was like, man, they don't
do stuff like this anymore. Nope.
No, I think the Speaking of coolDVD menus, I actually think that
Haunted Mansion has a really like the original.
I think that one has a really cool menu select scene too.
It's a good one. Yeah, You know yeah, Final
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Destination is my top third or my is my top number one Final
Destination movie because yes, the kills that.
I think AJ, you said this earlier.
Maybe it was you, Christy, just about how like all of it is very
circumstantial where it's, you know, like time and place.
And that is the most realistic way of running into death is
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like, yeah, you are unfortunately like you're you
can't that's that's on you. You can't escape that.
And they're all just so realistic, like the gym scene,
the all of those. Like, there's so many things in
that movie where you see it and you see yourself doing those
things and possibly experiencingthat to a point where you're
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like, I don't actually, like, now I have anxiety for the rest
of my life. Yeah, very much so.
Yeah, that that movie is all like, like circumstantial freak
accidents. Like, you know, you can't be in
a drive through no more. You can't lift weights no more,
you know what I'm saying? Like.
It's crazy. Can't even enjoy fireworks?
(55:36):
Yeah, it's crazy. But I also think there there's
like a creative element to the way that they shot it.
And specifically what I'm thinking of is like in the drive
through scene, that really annoying man God I hate him.
He has. He has the necklace of the woman
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and he was like harassing the girls on the roller coaster.
And when he died, the last thingthat you see of that scene is
his necklace on the ground with his blood covering the girl,
like where her dress would be and where her shoes would be.
So it's like now she's clothed and I just something about that
every time I'm like, oh, that's good.
(56:19):
They were cooking with that one the.
Details. Yeah, I really like the details
on that one too. There was something else, like
there's something on the truck. Do you remember?
On are you talking about wait like physically on the truck?
Yeah, I think it. Was like a bumper sticker or
something like that, I can't remember.
What it was now, I know, I know what you're talking about.
(56:41):
I just don't remember what it said, but there was like a
bumper sticker. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but either way, they they really questioned what the
details in that one for sure. Three if I didn't have such an
attachment to 1, I think 3 wouldbe much higher on on my list
because of the creativity with this movie and I I don't like
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roller coasters. What so?
So this is a big, this is a big guy.
This was a big one for me because I was like, yeah, now
this solidifies the reason why Ishould not be.
On a roller. Coaster, you know.
I can't get her on one y'all. I'll be trying.
I can't. I can't do.
It every time. Every time Christy's like, do we
need to watch Final Destination 3 again?
We need. I need to remind.
(57:23):
You, I think. I need to send you a reminder,
but you know, going back to the point that you made Avery, about
the timing and stuff and how things lined up.
Yeah, You were talking about this the other day because my
ass was at the airport. Yeah, hey, it's true story.
This just happened. She had some powerless nation.
Airport the other day and I was there super early so I had
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plenty of time to get to my to my gate so I'm chilling I'm not
even in a rush I'm just doing mything.
Yeah, wait, wait until the time is available so I can check in
my bags. I'm like lollygagging.
I go get on the escalator, the time to go to the TSA pre-check
and this white lady, I'm saying she's a white lady for a reason.
(58:08):
It's important, right? I'll come back to that Lady
later. And she had her, she let go of
her her bag on the escalator or she couldn't grip it or
something, I don't know. But I'm minding my business and
the next thing I know, I hear something.
I go to turn my head and her freaking bag ramsen me to the
(58:29):
back of my legs and I fall on the escalator and my head goes
to final destination, right? I'm like because my hair, my
braids are down. I'm like my braids are gonna.
Get me gone. Oh my God, I'm not.
Gonna I'm freaking out. I'm.
Giving myself a panic attack because I'm thinking about I
find the. Destination I am so that is so.
(58:52):
It's funny now, but in the moment I was.
Freaking the fuck out. This hand helps me up.
Like that's why I have bandages.Y'all can't see I have bandages
on my nails right now in my armsbecause I got jacked up on.
The escalator. My God.
But it's so funny that I had allthis time and this, right, right
when I go get on the escalator, this lady loses her back.
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And she was just so nonchalant about that's why I said she was
a white lady, because she didn'tseem like she cared.
You know, that's fine. Whatever.
But yeah, it was crazy because like, you know, she had she had
went to the the counter and she had to like wait for a second
because the bag was overweight. Sounds like things crazy how?
Like literally every little moment that happened.
Right. You just happen to be at the
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bottom of this escalator when this lady's suitcase come flying
that like it's found destination.
You know, in real life it. Is no it really the way that
that franchise just alters your brain?
Like I when we saw the 6th one, my roommate had never seen a
well, she saw like Final destination 3 the the ones that
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I was rewatching, but before that she'd never seen a single
one. And she's also very anxious
person and so we watch it and then as we.
As we're walking from the theater to the train station,
everything we see, she's like, be careful.
Final destination. I'm like, whoa.
And she'll be like, she's like, be careful.
That could fall and then that could happen.
And then that. And I'm like you, I want you to
(01:00:19):
calm down, please. These are these are my intrusive
thoughts. I don't need them out loud.
But it is. Yeah.
I love. I, I, there's something about
that, just like the way that we experience life and how that's
always just such a core part of how we walk through life.
(01:00:40):
And I think it's, that's even outside of just horror fans,
like it's, it's anyone who watches Final Destination too.
It's a very universal, shared experience and feeling that
makes this franchise so special to me and I think to everyone
else too. Yeah, I think that's the.
Key like it is universal, like we all have found ourselves in
(01:01:02):
some way, shape or form close tosomething like this could have
happened to us. Like we've all been behind a log
truck. We, you know, we these are.
Everything. Occurrences, you know, like, and
it could, this could happen to any of us.
I think that's why it's such an impactful franchise for sure.
Yes, most definitely. And so as we wrap up this
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discussion of our rankings, did you all find a letter box review
for Final Destination that just like really, really just hits
the nail on the head in whateverway that means to you.
I. Think I found one.
Let's see. Oh yeah, this was about the
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first one because that was my favorite 1.
And it was like, do you think about this movie every time you
step foot on a plane or are you normal?
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not normal because I definitely.
Think about this every. Time I fly.
No, I actually don't think any horror fan is normal because
they're always thinking of a waythat someone could die in a
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situation in general. Agreed for sure.
All right, AJ. Yeah, I actually had just pulled
up the letterbox right now for Final Destination, the first
one. And one of the recent reviews
actually says, and I think aboutthis because like, you know,
sometimes you think about like, for example, people who like
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skydive and things like that, like, you know, you put yourself
in a position to, you know, for something to happen.
And I just saw this one up here and I don't know why, just made
me laugh, but this person was like, that's what you get for
wanting to go to France. And you know what?
Yeah. Yeah, that's what you.
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Get for doing now. Hilarious to me.
Well. Because what's also so funny is
that like, I feel like Final Destination is one of those
movies similar to like a lot of horror movies where it's like
there's a reason why you don't see a lot of black people in
those movies. And it's because we don't do
that. We don't do those things.
You won't catch us dead doing a lot of those things that y'all
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get yourself into, right? No, I got AI France.
France stinks. And.
Now, now y'all died like whatever.
I for Final Destination three, Iwould recommend everyone
actually going on letterbox and looking at these reviews because
it was really hard to pick just one, the one that I ended up
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picking says breaking. Actress Mary Elizabeth Winstead
has been recently hospitalized due to a major injury on her
back. TMZ has confirmed that the
injury was in fact caused by carrying the weight of the
entire Final Destination franchise.
Which if we're being honest, that's not true.
She comes second to Tony Todd because he did actually indeed
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carry it on his back. But she is by far one of the
best actors in that franchise. But there were like, there was
another one that was like me building a roller coaster on
Roller Coaster Tycoon to see people die.
Oh yeah. I remember that game, about that
game, yeah. Just building our own final
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destination casually, we. Creating this whole the whole
sequence. And you know what?
I bet that's on YouTube. I bet someone has done that on
YouTube. I need to find that.
That's what I'm doing today. Definitely look at that.
I did want to get talk about really quickly one of my
favorite kills in the entire franchise.
OK, aside from Bloodlines, because those are some really
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good ones. But the pull when the guy gets
sucked down? Christie, OK, We're we're here.
We see each other because yes. That kill was so good and I was
like, he, he deserved it, but atthe same time it's like.
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That's. Rough.
Yeah, because I so obviously the4th 1 is I don't like that one,
but for whatever reason the kills in that one stand out like
the pool for example. I think the reason why that kill
stands out to me too is because that was actually the first
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summer I learned about the the way pulls work because I was so
stressed out about that happening.
I was like, I was like, what is the likelihood of that
happening? And so that's when I learned
about the whole the way that pulls clean and recycled water
and all of that. But I it gave me such an
irrational fear of that. And then also like the car wash
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of it all and her like being trapped and just.
Damn, so scary. Yeah.
Just full of unluck and that's rough.
The thing with four and five forme with the kills, those, you
know, those came out in that that horror 3D era.
So like when even when you watchit non 3D, you could tell the
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kills were meant to be viewed in3D.
So I feel like it kind of like takes away from it a little bit
because the way they like angle the camera so that like the shit
will kind of blast toward the camera for the 3D effect.
And I'm like, damn, like it sucks at that.
Like that era kind of happened where for a a good what, like 2
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years, like every horror movie was 3D and I'm like come on man.
Yeah, and I think 5 is actually worse with that than four,
because five, I remember when I was watching it, there's like a
particular moment that is so blatant that it's supposed to be
in 3D that you're like, damn, how'd that make it in there?
Like truthfully, I'm like, oh, with four it's a little bit more
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like you have things flying at the screen, but things fly at
the screen now anyways, like whatever.
So it's not as much of like it doesn't take you out, but like
with the movie theater explosion.
Oh yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.
I have to say, as ridiculous as it is, it's one of my favorite
sequences because you don't knowwhat's going on behind those
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screens. That's true.
I know. Sometimes I think about it,
yeah. You know.
I'm I when I go to the movie theater now, I look to see where
the exit doors are actually OK. You got to, You got.
To very important, very important.
No, Yeah, I think I would probably have to say I have a
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lot of favorite kills, like alsofavorite sequences while I think
about this. AJ, give us yours if you have.
Oh man, there's so many. There's there's a lot of good
ones. One I only one of the ones that
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always kind of replays them in my mind.
I think just because of the you don't really see a lot, but it's
just what your mind fills in. And it's actually the second one
with the log truck and how that log blows through the windshield
of the cop car, because in my mind, well, you see some of the
blood like blasts out of the back of the the back windshield.
But like that, that dude got like obliterated, like you know
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what I'm saying, like complete destruction, but but that kill
and then the, you know, the kid getting killed by the by the
glass pane when he went to go chase off the birds, he just
like got squished like I don't know why.
Like that was so well. Too.
That was just, yeah, that was brutal.
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That was just nasty too. Like when he just folded it in
clout like this guy smushed. Yeah, You know what I think that
I'll have to say, and this is completely throwing off
everything I've previously said.I think one of my favorite kills
has to be in five, the acupuncture scene, because that
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kill, now that I'm an adult getting self-care massages and
stuff, I'm like somebody asked me, they were like, oh, would
you ever do acupuncture? I said no, what do I look like
doing that? I don't care if it's lessening
my tension in my temples or not.I don't want to experience
anything like that because it's also, you know, like you have
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the, I feel like the anxiety andthe tension of that moment, it's
like escalated by the fact that he has a bunch of needles
sticking into him. He falls over it.
They all stick inside of him, which isn't, which isn't awful,
but it's like, and that's rough.And then you add on the fire and
everything else you're like, actually, this is what you
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deserve and I'm glad you're, you're experiencing this, but
that sucks. Yeah.
That's so bad. It really does.
Yeah. Another brutal one too, and this
was from the one that's ranked the lowest on mine was was the
girl getting This is kind of funny 'cause the story just told
me, but the girl getting sucked into the escalator and the
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stairs fell apart. She got she got grinded into the
gears. Damn, yeah.
I think about that all the time.That was so scary.
Man I already have PTSD because when I was a kid my mom, her
purse got stuck in the escalatorand she was holding my little
brother and I was holding on herhand and we all just like fell.
So I already have like issues with the dangling.
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Yeah, yeah. No, they're.
Trying to Take Me Out since I was a kid.
And I, I, I think that they makeit, they make escalators look so
scary already. Like when I was a kid, I was
scared to get on an escalator. Some stranger had to help me up
the escalator one time 'cause mymom left me 'cause she didn't
expect me to stop. Like, I just stopped at the very
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bottom and I was so scared to climb it.
And I'm pretty sure it was probably after I saw 4/2, which
tells you a lot 'cause I was like, I, I was a little too old
to be scared of an escalator like that, but whatever.
But that like just every time, there's some escalators in New
York. That.
I look at and I'm like, I maybe,maybe I'm better taking the
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stairs. I've definitely.
Taken the stairs now definitely getting my leg.
Day in the stairs for sure. Yeah, yeah, most definitely.
No, the Escalator 1 is good, especially because that one's
one's another one that's subverting your expectations.
But but yeah, I think, wow, if there's one franchise, it's
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going to get practical effects and kills, right?
Even if the the story is not written well, its final
destination. Absolutely true.
Yeah, even if the movie is bad, you can count on some some fun
kills at the at the very least, you know what I'm saying?
I feel like you can always have fun with this franchise, and
that's something that I really do appreciate about it.
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Thank you. Jeffrey Riddick.
Yes, thank you. And on that note, that wraps up
our discussion of Final Destination Ranked.
I hope you listeners enjoyed this, enjoyed listening to AJ
and Christy. If you like their opinions, if
you agreed with them, even if you don't agree with them, give
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their other episodes a listen and also YouTube.
Y'all stream y'all, y'all do. Y'all are so multifaceted.
So. So how about, how about you tell
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That's coming up, babe. Like so they can look forward to
something, you know, we got a festival coming up.
We're going to do a lot of reviews and content for.
Getting ready for Fantastic Festin Texas, in Texas, Texas.
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We'll be there coming up later this month.
So yeah, we'll have a bunch of reviews coming out after that as
well, so. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff
being shown there, yeah. Oh my gosh, I know.
I can't wait to see all's reviews.
I'm excited. I'm excited.
Yeah, What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah.
And can you, can you leave my listeners with a recommendation,
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A movie recommendation? Oh well.
I we're not big on classic movies, so we are kind of like
getting into it a little bit more.
But we just watched Altered States.
I don't know if anyone else has.We might be behind the 8 ball on
it, I don't know. But we just watched Altered
States. Isn't it altered?
Yeah, altered. States, yeah.
Altered states, yeah. I don't know when it came out,
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it's like 83. 1980 I believe 1980.
Somewhere around there and it was really good.
I was really surprised. I was really surprised.
I watched it on Tubi, so you know.
Thank you too to. Be is like if you try to find
something to be probably have it.
Absolutely, yes, I love them. I love to be well actually every
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time I think about. Have you heard of Quan Mills
International best selling author Quan?
Mills yes. Wait, does he have something on
to be? No, but OK.
But I think we're we're this close to getting an adaptation.
Oh. Gosh.
Of pregnant by a hood alien. Oh my goodness.
So perhaps we'll see. Oh, he's got a very interesting
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channel. I may have heard of that one
'cause you you showed me, but ohOK.
Like a film adaptation. Not no, like I'm like partially
joking, but given but given to be track record with Yeah, I can
see it. Like why do they have a movie
called my stud boyfriend that's not real.
So I just think that they're on a track record of adapting, of
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getting Quan Mills adapted because if he's listen, if he's
an international best selling author.
Best selling author. I want to see it really.
Oh yes, he dropping stuff and people be on.
It they do, they do. Christie's The Book Reader, I.
Know but that any of those booksthough, I'm sorry but.
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Well, what I mean is you're tapped into that community, so
you know about even though stuffthat's weird, you know what I'm
saying? No.
Yeah, that's Quan. Mills Quan Mills is getting my
support from afar. I will not be picking up one of
those books. Sorry.
Be rooted for you though, brother.
Yeah, no. Always root and we love to see
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it. Y'all need to y'all need to make
it to Brooklyn Horror Film Festival soon so.
That's definitely on our on our radar, on the list.
We want to go to New York, period.
But yeah, why not? I've never been ever before.
It. I've never been ever, so I would
love to. Oh my God, yeah.
No, it's a it's a good time here, especially they actually,
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I'm going to the opening of Twisted Spine today, the new
horror bookstore. Yes.
Yeah. So that's.
Exciting, yeah. So when you come, make sure you
add that to your list. Absolutely.
But but yeah, it was so great tohave you all on the podcast.
Thank you for joining me. Thank you.
At 10:00 in the morning. Thank you for having us.
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Thank you so, so much. I think I reached out to Avery
in 2023. We've been, we've been chatting
back and forth since 2023. So this is awesome.
I'm glad we got a chance to actually, like, talk.
And I know, yeah. And soon, soon we'll be in the
same room, don't know when, but at one of these festivals, one
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of these, at some point we'll be, we'll be together.
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