February 14, 2025 • 46 mins
Happy Valentines Day all my uNcomfortable friends! While love is in the air I thought I'd share with you one episode that I truely love! Originally in episode 56, David, recounts a chilling experience of being dragged into the woods by a creature, its grip cold and unyielding, as shadows danced menacingly around him. His voice trembles as he provides detailed descriptions of the creature's malevolent presence, reflecting on the cultural beliefs that whisper of dark, ancient beings lurking just beyond the veil of our understanding. A truly terrifying encounter in East Texas.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(01:06):
let's get into tonight's show.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Doing that face to face where that he was holding
me by my crew and it felt like it was
fucking something out of me.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I really should have been more scared than I was
when I.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Witnessed the activism. And I turned and looked on my
right side.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
When I did, there's there's a bend on the side
of a tree, a large people.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's looking at me and I'm looking at it. After
I hit the lock button and then looked back up,
I saw red eyes staring up back at me.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If they're going to show multiple gods all over the
earth to be able to speak to people's languages, and
at that point it's kind of converge into it one
entity which would be to.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Deal is that terrestrial.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You'll realize that aliens.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Are the gods of old and at that point of
the White religion, out of the contact that come in.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, and it comes as a person. I know that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I know that people can't run through the woods like that.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So this scene comes into you and I see it.
It's fifty yards away from me. It's walking, it's walking
on two legs, it's huge. This is the big airy
looking being.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Welcome, I'm your host, and this is uncomfortable. Ladies and gentlemen.
Tonight we have a guest, Miss David comes to us
(03:02):
from East Texas. He has an encounter that quite honestly.
A third party started telling me about this, and I
urged him to please stop, because I wanted to get
this gentleman's account straight from straight from his mouth. From
what I've heard so far, an amazing, amazing, terrifying story.
(03:29):
So if you will please give an uncomfortable welcome to.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
David uncomfortable Huh yeah, Well, I guess I just started
at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's the perfect I was.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I was coming from a gun show. U back then,
I had a federal farms license and bought and sold
gun talled time, and I normally carried go Gobell shotgun
uh in a special holster on my right leg. Well,
(04:08):
the gun show was in Dallas. I was going to Texas,
can I say? So, had a five hour drive, and
you know, I got the waterworks call about Suffer River.
And I crossed Sofa River and went down into that
boat ramp and the guy out of the.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Car, now, this is the Sulfur River. Is that what
you said?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, the Sulfur River?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Okay, and uh it runs into right pat and then
it burns through there through the dam on over to
the news Anna side. But anyway, uh, I got out
went over to the fence by the woods there and uh,
(04:54):
you know, take care of business.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I was still.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And I noticed a light over my shoulder. It was
it wasn't quite daylight. It was getting there, but it
wasn't quite daylight. And I turned when there was a
truck pulling in pulling a boat and they had their
headlights on it. And I turned to see if I
knew who that was. And about that time, something grabbed
(05:21):
my right ankle and snatched me from a standing position
onto the ground and started dragging me through the woods.
And I'm a pretty big guy. I'm six ' ten.
I weighed three hundred and fifty six pounds. Wow, back
then I probably was about two eighty or something like that.
(05:45):
And anyway, I was kicking at I was trying to
figure out what it was that had a hold on me,
because at first I thought it was somebody, but I
couldn't think of anybody that beat stupid enough, uh to
grab a hold to me and try, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Can I ask you just to clarify again, this is
this is in the early morning hours.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Real early.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It wasn't even the sun wasn't up, but it was
getting light.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It was getting and.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You you said you were over there taking taking care
of business. I assume I assume you were urinating.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yes, I was, okay, and uh so, I don't know
what kind of words to you.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Its on.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know what's acceptable.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And any anything you want. It's fine. This is an
adult audience.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, anyway, it was dragging me and I and it
was getting lighter outside.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It was getting the sun was.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just barely peeping over the the you know, the trees
and stuff. Was going through the swamp right parallel to
the river, back towards right path and down, dragging me
and I was kicking it and kicking and kicking at it,
and finally about one hundred yards into the woods there
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it dropped me. And so and when that dropped me,
my right hand hit the top of my shotgun. It
was I sawd off Elsie Smith Dobarrow.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Had twelve gage slugs in it.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And I pulled that shotgun out and I stuck it
up to right above its penis, between whereas navel and
its penis would be, and I pulled both triggers at
the same time, and he dropped one knee and then
he let go of me completely and he grabbed a
tree limb above his head, and I was able to
(07:54):
scramble out back to the car, and I threw that
shotgun in there, and I got a I had a
dan Wesson three ft seven magnumunder seat, and I pulled
it out. I shot three shots back over the top
of car, and then I left and I went to
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
When I was in the hospital for.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Two weeks and I had to I crushed my ankle.
My right ankle still gives me trouble today. Of course
I'm a lot older today too. It's probably been forty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Forty yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Wow, I'll be sixty five this year. And messed up
my knee, had cut a few broke riods and.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So anyway, so this thing, this thing dragged you for
over one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Oh easy. I like to never get out of there.
I thought he was gonna kill me. He really good,
I get I don't get scared.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Really talking about it, but I do get concerned. And
I am glad I was caring that. But now, uh,
I still carry and I carry a four fifty four Taurus.
And you know their big advertisement is it'll stop a
charging the elephant. Yeah, and so I wouldn't hesitate to
(09:19):
shoot one again.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now, And I gotta ask you, I mean, this is dude,
I'm gonna I'm gonna say, this is unbelievable. And I
don't mean that I don't believe you, just so that
it's it's an unbelievable account.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, you ain't the first one that said that.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So you're in the grasp of this thing for for
a good while if he's if he's dragging you, you know,
nearly one hundred yards or better, can I ask you?
And I know the lighting conditions weren't optimal, but what
what did you see?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
What?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What was it that was that had a hold of you?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, at first I thought it was a man, I
mean because it was still, it was dark, you know,
and he was standing pretty close to me at that time.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But he changed his grip.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And he was dragging me with he was facing me,
dragging me with his left hand, but he dropped that
side and picked me up as a right hand sack
walked forward, I guess.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But then when he dropped me the last time he
turned around, he was looking down at me like and
you could see his canines were sticking out. And that's
when I rushed up against my shotgun, and all I
could think of was I had to either kill that dirt,
you know, it was gonna kill me. But I think
(10:52):
now that I look back on it, I think that
when I was up there taking a leak, he might
have been laying there in the grass.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You know, or or was close enough to you while
you were doing that. And yeah, with that being his territory, Yeah,
viewed that as a as an act of aggression. Yeah,
a territorial display on your part.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, those guys that came down there and with the boat.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Two weeks later, uh, me and some other friends were
went down there to see if we could find, you know,
some evidence, and uh we saw where he was. Evidently
he was standing in front of a tree, and then
and slugs went right into that tree that he was
staying behind.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So when he was in front of, went through, went
through his lower abdomen and went into.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The tree, into the tree.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But there wasn't there was mark there, but it looked
like something I tried to mark out, you know, break
out tracks or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And we never did find any no hair, no blood,
no nothing. But it had been too weak too.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, So uh but what I was going to tell
you is when the week it was coming out, those
same guys and I do know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
So they came down there and they said, what and
the hell happened to you? And I said, I don't know,
you know? What do you say?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They said, we heard a terrible blow shotgun blow, We
heard you shoot, and then after that it was a
horrible scream. Now I didn't hear the scream myself, but
they said they heard a horrible screaming. He said, we
just cranked a where boat and left there. I said, thanks, fellas,
(12:48):
But so can you.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Know you you mentioned the canines? Can can you be
can you be more descriptive as far as you know
what the what? What the body shape was? You know,
how large was it?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, he didn't really have a comb head. It was
definitely a male.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Uh had broad shoulders probably now and like I say,
I'm I'm sixteen, so he was probably about eight foot.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know, so they make him foot taller than me.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But he probably weighed about twelve hundred pounds because I
was raised around cows, you know, so I'm estimate weights
pretty well.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But he, Uh, the canines were at least i'd say
as wide a part as my hand is wide.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, so about as wide apart as your cellphone is tall.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's a good five and a half six inches, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That his and there as big as round as my thumb.
And they came down on his mouth. His mouth was
closed most of the time except when I was shout him,
and then he opened his mouth up. And he had
a some smaller pointed teeth on the bottom, but they
(14:29):
were I wouldn't ready to call him, you know, not
like things. Just yeah, it was not things, just like
a dog that you know. And uh, he was kind
of a the sun was shining on his fur. He's
kind of a reddish brown. He in the when it
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was when it was dark in there, it looks he
looked solid black. So I actually originally I thought was
black man. But when I saw his face and stuff.
He didn't have a lot of hair around his eyes,
(15:11):
had long hair about four inches long.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
On his head. He didn't really have the cone shaped
head that a lot of people talk about. But his
head did sit back on us.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And he had no neck sat back on the trap usis.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, and he had huge his shoulders were huge.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm talking about at days at least five five and
a half feet.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why Jesus, that's the width of a pickup trucks in tailgate.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, he was, he was being And.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
What did you notice as far as an actual skin.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Color, Well, he had a kind of a darker He
wasn't black. It was charcoal gray or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, it's kind of an ashy color.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And what else I noticed was he had long, long
fingernails and his fingers were huge. His hands and his
fingers were huge, and it's he reached up above his
head when I shot him and grabbed a limb that
was the least six foot over his head. He grabbed
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the limb in the tree. And I don't know if
he's trying to get a balance or what. I wasn't
hanging around to see. And somebody else asked me, why
did you shoot that for your fit? Steven back into
boods like that, I said, I just want to make
sure I wasn't being.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Flolid, and I got I was going to ask if
you if if he was actually I didn't after you,
or if that was just.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
A that was just to let him know that I
wasn't done.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I was done, but I didn't want him to
know all, I couldn't hardly move it all.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
By the time I got to the car. Like I say,
it crushed my ankle. That was amazed.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
At the hospital that even got out of the woods,
I didn't tell them what happened.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I just told him it was all, you know, not
not to dwell on on on something that was obviously
a horrific experience for you. But at the at the
moment that you you placed that double barrel shotgun to
its abdomen. Yeah, wouldn't you know? You yourself said you
(17:37):
sold firearms for for a living. You you know what
you know what a shotgun will do to a to
an animal, normal animal, and and what it can do
to a human beings torso.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
With with no man could have wishpood that it would
kill him dead.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And yet this thing you can't. You can't tell me
that you killed it.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
No, I can't tell you. I can't honestly tell you
that I killed it. But I can't say that I
didn't kill it.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean, uh, he might have crawled off somewhere and died,
or he might still be living today.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I don't really know. Now.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You you bugged out rather quickly, as quickly as I could.
So did you ever see him leave his knee?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And no, I never seen it lead us in it. Yeah,
I never seen it pull itself up with his arm.
I just see him reach up and grab that limb.
It's almost like he was going to fall or he
felt like he was gonna fall in and grab that limb.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You know, But isn't that out of the fisherman heard
heard that horrendous scream.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But but you they didn't hear that scream. Well there's
still at the boat ramp backing out when all that happened.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, I mean, you know, and you don't recall that
at all.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Remember hearing the scream, all.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Your brain was getting inside of here.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
And that's exactly what my brain was. Now, h.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Did you did you ever did you ever have any
contact with authorities or anything as far as you know
the experience. Did you did you attempt to talk to
local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Or back in those days, you didn't talk to law
local law enforcements about stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
This isn't then. This happened in the seventies, so.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
So by by your statement there, yeah, I'm going to
assume that that that this the matter of these beings,
these these these individuals. It was it was fairly commonly
known that these things are in that area well, and
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that people just didn't talk about it or yeah, that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, our parents and grandparents always told us there were
burgers in the woods and my parents my uh, we
owned six hundred acres down there, own Soft River and
had cows down there. So it wasn't the first time
I had seen one, but it was the first time
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I had any interaction with.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
One sort of.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'd seen one pretty close to me when I was
a little boy.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But can you can you can you go into that experience?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Uh I was putting out hay and put out hate
for our caves at night. And uh I was put
out hay. And back then we had square bells. We
didn't have round bells like they do now.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And uh one run up and slapped the side of
the truck and uh so I bailed off the other side.
My dad stopped and got his thirty six out And
that's about the run back in the woods.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That didn't there wasn't nothing else after that.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It just ran out there and to get the side
of the truck had a big dent beside the truck.
Of course daddy Dad was cussing like a sailor. But
other than that, scared to live in crap.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Out of me.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I imagine about can you give Gustamate what age you
were at?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I was probably about seven or eight. So was this?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What was the conversation with your dad after that?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I mean, there wasn't no conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You didn't talk about it, she said.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He said, he said, I told you there were boogers
in the woods, that's all he said.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I was crying. It scared me.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
But today, if I saw one, if I was with
down one hundred yards of it, if you're within one
hundred yards of a big foot, you're in their kill range.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's how fast they are.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You're not safe at one hundred yards. So if you're
not packing heat, and I don't mean a thirty eight
or nine milimeter or now, you better have a forty
five or and you better make it a head shot,
eyeshot or something like that, because.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I saw one later on years down the road.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
A guy shot one with three o eight and he
didn't even stagger, he didn't even stop.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He's just kept coming.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh my word.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah. So but that's a story for a different time.
That was a deer hunting story.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, let me just ask you one thing about that.
And I think it kind of circles back to when
you shot the one that you were with. Uh yeah,
I mean there's obvious penetration of the bullet. Correct.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, Well, the bullets went through and me and some
friends of mine went down there two weeks after it happened. Yeah,
when I got out of hospital, because that's the first
thing I want to do, and we was loaded for bear.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Then you know, I cared.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I carred two three fisted sevens and my god barrow
shot gun and uh, you know, my friends all had
guns and uh thirty ought six sists and stuff like that,
but we didn't find. The only thing we found is worked.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Uh. The bullets went into this pine tree, right and
uh and that's it. No hair, no nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And I was tempted to dig the bullets out, but
I didn't do it, and I probably should have, but I.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
No, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I wasn't that interested in it at that time. And two, uh,
you know, everybody had heard about the Foult monster at
that time and right, all that stuff, and so yeah,
it's just a crazy time anyway, So.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So you know, you mentioned that your parents and your
grandparents each had had warned you off as as far
as boogers in the woods.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, they warned all of us, all the grandkids off
this we had, like I had like thirty two cousins
and all of us have been told, you know, And
was was.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
It kind of just a flippant remark like, oh, the
bogger is going to get you if you guys misbehave
or or was it an a and an actual Hey
you got to.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Be home before dark? Are them boogers will get you?
And always traveling in groups, you know, yeah, two or more, But.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
There's times I've been in the woods.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I've been in the wood to by myself with twenty
two nd the squirrels a million times, never seen a thing.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
But you know, I think it happens this way.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm not sure, but my theory is that once you
see one, I have an encounter with one, you'll see more.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I don't know if they tag.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Here or or what, but I've never heard I've never
heard that. Of course, some people say that they speak
to them, you know, yes, but I have heard them
talk to each other. Yeah, when I was in boy Scouts.
We just camp down there all the time, and you
(26:41):
wake up in the middle of the you know, in
the middle of the night, and you can hear them
talking to each other that it sounded just like that
Sierra sam.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, the Sierra sound, the Samurai chatter.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, the Samurai chatter.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, But I think too, I.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Think that they're more violent in this part of the
country than they are up in uh, northwestern Washington, California.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm glad. I'm glad you brought that up, because that
that does seem to be an interesting trait. You know,
you hear about a lot less violent accounts, like in
the Pacific Northwest. They're almost like, you know, they step
out in front from behind a tree and they're like, hey,
I'm here, you know, and then they just walk off
(27:37):
for some reason. A lot of the accounts from Texas
seem to be more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, and well there's more more hunters, more people to
have guns down there, and and people will shoot, you know,
with that really thinking about what they're shooting at or yeah,
you know, if they're something's trespassing on their property or
(28:04):
got on their animals or got a dog or there
or a cab or.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
People here won't hesitate to shooting, and that's probably why.
I mean, but it's been that way for years and
years and years, so that's probably why they're aggressive like
that here.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So you think they're conditioned over from Yeah, family groups
raising their young in that area. They're probably taught that,
you know, better to err on the side of being
aggressive right off the bat than Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And another theory is that they raised their young in
the trees and that's why they walk like they do,
you know, in a straight line. Yeah, they walk, learn
to walk on the limbs, and that's why they walk
in such straight lines.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh, that's an interesting fact that I've never I've never
heard that put together, but yeah, that could be a
lot of sense the reason.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And that's another thing.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's why I think that we don't see little ones
like we The only time we're a route East Texans
or anybody Texs of that looking up in trees is
the one we're squirrel hunting, you know. And not that
many people squirrel hunt anymore, not many people that eat
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squirrel stew. But I still eat squirrel stew, So you know,
more people are into deer and hog hunting. I go
hog hunting still, and deer hunting, dish and and.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
So we've had a we had oh in fact, I
think in the nineties that are ninety two or somewhere.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
H used to a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Uh seeing the twenties, we had a sugar bearer what
they call sugarberry little black bearriers population here, but we
had a hunting season for them, and so we killed
them all off well in nineties. In the nineties, sometimes
it was in the paper that they was going to
let ninety six pair bear black bearry go on the
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Type two property on Software River, and they had a
meeting down at this little town called Douglas Fhiel And
there's a bunch of arguing going on in One of
these uh Texas Ranger guys got up there and said,
we didn't come to ask you if we could do it.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We're just telling you we're doing it. And if you
shoot one of them, AT's.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
The five hundred dollars fine. If you're shoot and killed one,
it's a five hundred fine. So every once in a
while you don't see them very often. Every once in
a while you'll see a bear down here. Now really, Yeah,
and then they've had they also had a big release
turkey and so every once in a while you said
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a wild turkey. But fire ants got a lot of
like the quail. We used to have a lot of
quail here. Fire ants destroyed the wall of quail. I
don't know when I brought that up, but I guess
because I'm talking about the turkey.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But anyway, Uh, is that became? Is that you think
because quail spent so much time on the ground.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, they lay their eggs on the ground and they
you know, and too, they got a lot of funds
because a dough tell their phone to stay in a
certain place. And I mean I've seen people run over
with a bush old run over the phone not seeing
in the high grass or something, and it'll stay there.
And fire ants, if it's on a fire ain't now
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now they eat it.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
But so in your in your I assume you've lived
there for years.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
You I think you told me off and on for years.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
And yeah, do you do you follow the subject of
of bigfoot? Do you do you follow reports and sightings?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Ever since uh, that one hit the side of the truck,
I have followed it. There was a book called on
the Track of Unknown Animals. I don't know who's by,
but I found it in the library at my school,
and that was a little bit of school that wasn't
a big school, and I used to keep that book
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checked out read about it, and they told all about
you know, different things, and not just big book but
different kinds of animals.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Lot that's my obst uh uh and other things. But
that uh, I'm not really interested in uh fifty one.
But I do read a lot. I see a lot
of videos about it. It comes on. I watched the
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History Channel a lot. Oh sure, yeah, and so I
see a lot about that. But yeah, so in the.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Area that you live, you know, throughout the years, have
have there been many sightings that you know of? I mean,
is this something that you know, guys at the general
store talk about, or you know, you sit down at
a bar and everybody's big foot story.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Or you don't really I want to talk about say'll
make funy of you if you do. But they will
talk about it around the campfire somewhere. I mean, they'll
talk about things that that's happened to them or you know,
something happened to their uncle or their grandfather or you know,
something like that if you're out, but if you're around
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a bunch of people that they don't talk about it,
they don't talk about over coffee down at the coffee
shop or nothing. But it's, uh, it's hard for people
to come out and talk about things that happened.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I mean, well, yeah, nobody wants to be ridiculed.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, And uh, I'm already a monster myself, you know,
I'm so big and made fun out of a lot myself.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't understand that who the hell would be dumb
enough to make fun of somebody who was six foot ten?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well there, you just you don't know, you know, people
are just crazy, very crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And and and the fact, you know when you when
you tell me, when you told me your height and
your weight approximate weight at the time when you had
this incident, Yeah, that that's an amazing that's an amazing
amount of meat for something to just grab a hold
of with one hand and drag through a wooded area.
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You know, I assume you were being drug across the
fallen trees.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And through briars and everything else. And I honestly forgot
that I had that pok gage with me. I mean,
I was trying. I was kicking that at one of
my foot and.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I just it just when it dropped me, my hand
hit it the gun.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
And then I just automatically I picked it up and
my the end of my barrel was sticking in his
hair when I pulled the triggers. And uh, now, thinking
back on it later on, Uh, I had a long
sleeve shirt on.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
At the time, but I had the sleeve pocked up.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But I was married at the time, and my wife
said that she got blood out of the sleeve on
my right arm.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That wasn't my blood blood. Oh wow. Yeah, so there
was some blow black blow back. Yeah, from that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's just you know, I mean, it's just an amazing
thing to think that you could empty a double barrel
twelve gage with slugs and and it dropped it to
its knee. But it didn't floor it. It didn't it
didn't level it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well that just tells you the strength that the body
strength are those things. Uh, you know, that should have
blowed his spine and too. Yeah on a normal man,
a normal human man. If I shoot you like that
with the cloud gage, it blow you and haf you know.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, I had no doubt, but not in this case.
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Now with being as close as you were, you know,
and you had the recollection of the teeth and the
hair length and the color of the skin, what was
the what would your description of the face itself be?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Well, you know, I didn't see a lot of people
say they see red eyes, glowing eyes, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It looked like I had brown eyes or you know,
regular eyes eyes. It didn't. They didn't wasn't. Well, they
looked a little shocked when I was leaving the area,
you know. Yeah, it looked a little wide eyed, but uh.
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And his nose, his nose was more, it was more.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
It was flat, you know, like you just think of
gorilla or something like that. It had a little a
little bit of a nose like we do. And then
he had small lips. His lips were small. He didn't
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have big lips, a small straight His mouth was probably
eight inches wide total.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Just very thin lips, very thin lips. Yeah, when you
looked at it, were you looking at an animal or
were you looking at a person?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I was looking at beast.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I never seen a person look like that, And to
be honest with you, I've never seen an animals that
look like that. I've shot all kinds of animals, fare,
you know, deer, all kinds of animals, and when I
look at them, I see animals. Yeah, But when I
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looked at him, I saw a beast, and honestly, I
seen a killer. And a lot of people say they
have round fingernails like ours rounded, but he had long fingernails.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
They were probably.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Half inch inch longer than you know then you would think,
and they wasn't pointed or anything, but they they work
round at paper though, because I got the scar on
my ankle proof but uh, the doctor said, it's a miracle.
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I got out of there with my ankle messed up.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
As was.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Do you have any recollection really of how you How
were you able to to motivate.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
On that on that apple? Fear? I think fear and
adrenaline itself got me out of that. I was I
was scared, but.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I wouldn't be scared. I'd go back there today. I'd
go down there tonight, would you really?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, I'd go down there, and I'm not scared, but see,
i'd be pegging heat. I'd have it four hifty four.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And I also have a forty five long rifle, low
reaction rifle, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
So, I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
This four fifty four and had five rounds the revolver,
And but I can at a fifty yards, I can
hit a quarter with it. So it's got quite a
bit of recall. But I haven't magnet pored it. I
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don't know if you know what that means.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I do.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Actually, when I was in my mid and late teens,
I was on a competition pistol team with my dad
and oh yeah he had he had a magna ported
uh forty five.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, this got a little more kicking than the forty five.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
So, but this shoots the same bullet that's my rifle,
does it. Yeah, it's pistol stage.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Right by my side all the time, right here beside me,
right now. When the when the trash man was out there,
I had it on my belt and he said, y'all
are serious up here, ain't you?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
And I said, you know, you never know.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Before we close this out any lasting effects, you know. Uh,
it's it's got to affect your psache to some extent,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Well, I mean I'm just more aware.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'm more aware of things, and I've always been able
to see pretty good at night.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I see better at night than I did in the daytime. Really,
I always work.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It's either a weld er, I worked on computers or
you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
So I was always in the dark working on stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Only light up when I strike a weld or when
I get on a keyboard or something. And and so
I've always been able to I've been attentive to things
at night and in the dark.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I don't know, you know, going back to your grandparents
and your parents who with warning you and all of
your cousins and everything, were there were there any specific
like road signs that they said to watch out for,
you know, I mean if you notice the woods get
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through quiet or yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
That if it gets real quiet, or if you fear
you're being watched, come home. If you feel like you're
being watched, come home.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
That was a big thing.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, you know, now you got to worry about pedophiles
and idiots like that.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
After the woods.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
But uh, you know, the one thing I wonder about
or I don't know why I run into these things,
and I never run into anybody that's done some criminal.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Stuff that could, you know, And.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I'd rather shoot a pedophile then I had a creature
that's just trying to live off the land.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And right, I agree with you one hundred percent there. Yeah,
there's a special place in hell for those people.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, you're run.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
But I got some more stories, but I ain't gonna
tell them to you today. Well, but if you want
to hear them, you call me sometime and we talk
about it.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I'd love to hear more from you, David.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I have a good friend. I might get him that.
I was with him one time and we saw one
it was taller than his truck. He had one of
the first jacked up trucks around, you know, truck. Yeah
it was, and he was taller than cab his truck.
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But that's another story. But anyway, I enjoyed talking to you,
and you didn't make me feel an That's a good thing,
because I'd hate to have to drive it through your house.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I would not I would not be happy to see
your silhouette coming up to my doors, or if you
were angry, If you were angry, all right, sir David,
it's been an absolute pleasure talking with you, and I
would love if you if you get the if you
get a wild hair, and you'd like to tell me more.
I would be more than happy to to do this
(44:57):
again with you. All right, thank you for taking the time,
and I certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
All right, thank you, thanks.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
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let's get into tonight's show.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Doing that face to face where that he was holding
me by my crew and it felt like it was
fucking something out of me.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I really should have been more scared than I was
when I.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Witnessed the activism. And I turned and looked on my
right side.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
When I did, there's there's a bend on the side
of a tree, a large people.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's looking at me and I'm looking at it. After
I hit the lock button and then looked back up,
I saw red eyes staring up back at me.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If they're going to show multiple gods all over the
earth to be able to speak to people's languages, and
at that point it's kind of converge into it one
entity which would be to.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Deal is that terrestrial.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You'll realize that aliens.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Are the gods of old and at that point of
the White religion, out of the contact that come in.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, and it comes as a person. I know that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I know that people can't run through the woods like that.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So this scene comes into you and I see it.
It's fifty yards away from me. It's walking, it's walking
on two legs, it's huge. This is the big airy
looking being.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Welcome, I'm your host, and this is uncomfortable. Ladies and gentlemen.
Tonight we have a guest, Miss David comes to us
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from East Texas. He has an encounter that quite honestly.
A third party started telling me about this, and I
urged him to please stop, because I wanted to get
this gentleman's account straight from straight from his mouth. From
what I've heard so far, an amazing, amazing, terrifying story.
(03:29):
So if you will please give an uncomfortable welcome to.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
David uncomfortable Huh yeah, Well, I guess I just started
at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
That's the perfect I was.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I was coming from a gun show. U back then,
I had a federal farms license and bought and sold
gun talled time, and I normally carried go Gobell shotgun
uh in a special holster on my right leg. Well,
(04:08):
the gun show was in Dallas. I was going to Texas,
can I say? So, had a five hour drive, and
you know, I got the waterworks call about Suffer River.
And I crossed Sofa River and went down into that
boat ramp and the guy out of the.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Car, now, this is the Sulfur River. Is that what
you said?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, the Sulfur River?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Okay, and uh it runs into right pat and then
it burns through there through the dam on over to
the news Anna side. But anyway, uh, I got out
went over to the fence by the woods there and uh,
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you know, take care of business.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And I was still.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And I noticed a light over my shoulder. It was
it wasn't quite daylight. It was getting there, but it
wasn't quite daylight. And I turned when there was a
truck pulling in pulling a boat and they had their
headlights on it. And I turned to see if I
knew who that was. And about that time, something grabbed
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my right ankle and snatched me from a standing position
onto the ground and started dragging me through the woods.
And I'm a pretty big guy. I'm six ' ten.
I weighed three hundred and fifty six pounds. Wow, back
then I probably was about two eighty or something like that.
(05:45):
And anyway, I was kicking at I was trying to
figure out what it was that had a hold on me,
because at first I thought it was somebody, but I
couldn't think of anybody that beat stupid enough, uh to
grab a hold to me and try, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Can I ask you just to clarify again, this is
this is in the early morning hours.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Real early.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It wasn't even the sun wasn't up, but it was
getting light.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It was getting and.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You you said you were over there taking taking care
of business. I assume I assume you were urinating.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yes, I was, okay, and uh so, I don't know
what kind of words to you.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Its on.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know what's acceptable.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And any anything you want. It's fine. This is an
adult audience.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, anyway, it was dragging me and I and it
was getting lighter outside.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It was getting the sun was.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just barely peeping over the the you know, the trees
and stuff. Was going through the swamp right parallel to
the river, back towards right path and down, dragging me
and I was kicking it and kicking and kicking at it,
and finally about one hundred yards into the woods there
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it dropped me. And so and when that dropped me,
my right hand hit the top of my shotgun. It
was I sawd off Elsie Smith Dobarrow.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Had twelve gage slugs in it.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And I pulled that shotgun out and I stuck it
up to right above its penis, between whereas navel and
its penis would be, and I pulled both triggers at
the same time, and he dropped one knee and then
he let go of me completely and he grabbed a
tree limb above his head, and I was able to
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scramble out back to the car, and I threw that
shotgun in there, and I got a I had a
dan Wesson three ft seven magnumunder seat, and I pulled
it out. I shot three shots back over the top
of car, and then I left and I went to
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
When I was in the hospital for.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Two weeks and I had to I crushed my ankle.
My right ankle still gives me trouble today. Of course
I'm a lot older today too. It's probably been forty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Forty yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Wow, I'll be sixty five this year. And messed up
my knee, had cut a few broke riods and.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So anyway, so this thing, this thing dragged you for
over one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Oh easy. I like to never get out of there.
I thought he was gonna kill me. He really good,
I get I don't get scared.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Really talking about it, but I do get concerned. And
I am glad I was caring that. But now, uh,
I still carry and I carry a four fifty four Taurus.
And you know their big advertisement is it'll stop a
charging the elephant. Yeah, and so I wouldn't hesitate to
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shoot one again.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Now, And I gotta ask you, I mean, this is dude,
I'm gonna I'm gonna say, this is unbelievable. And I
don't mean that I don't believe you, just so that
it's it's an unbelievable account.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, you ain't the first one that said that.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So you're in the grasp of this thing for for
a good while if he's if he's dragging you, you know,
nearly one hundred yards or better, can I ask you?
And I know the lighting conditions weren't optimal, but what
what did you see?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
What?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What was it that was that had a hold of you?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, at first I thought it was a man, I
mean because it was still, it was dark, you know,
and he was standing pretty close to me at that time.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But he changed his grip.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And he was dragging me with he was facing me,
dragging me with his left hand, but he dropped that
side and picked me up as a right hand sack
walked forward, I guess.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But then when he dropped me the last time he
turned around, he was looking down at me like and
you could see his canines were sticking out. And that's
when I rushed up against my shotgun, and all I
could think of was I had to either kill that dirt,
you know, it was gonna kill me. But I think
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now that I look back on it, I think that
when I was up there taking a leak, he might
have been laying there in the grass.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You know, or or was close enough to you while
you were doing that. And yeah, with that being his territory, Yeah,
viewed that as a as an act of aggression. Yeah,
a territorial display on your part.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, those guys that came down there and with the boat.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Two weeks later, uh, me and some other friends were
went down there to see if we could find, you know,
some evidence, and uh we saw where he was. Evidently
he was standing in front of a tree, and then
and slugs went right into that tree that he was
staying behind.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So when he was in front of, went through, went
through his lower abdomen and went into.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The tree, into the tree.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
But there wasn't there was mark there, but it looked
like something I tried to mark out, you know, break
out tracks or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And we never did find any no hair, no blood,
no nothing. But it had been too weak too.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, So uh but what I was going to tell
you is when the week it was coming out, those
same guys and I do know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
So they came down there and they said, what and
the hell happened to you? And I said, I don't know,
you know? What do you say?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
They said, we heard a terrible blow shotgun blow, We
heard you shoot, and then after that it was a
horrible scream. Now I didn't hear the scream myself, but
they said they heard a horrible screaming. He said, we
just cranked a where boat and left there. I said, thanks, fellas,
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But so can you.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Know you you mentioned the canines? Can can you be
can you be more descriptive as far as you know
what the what? What the body shape was? You know,
how large was it?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, he didn't really have a comb head. It was
definitely a male.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Uh had broad shoulders probably now and like I say,
I'm I'm sixteen, so he was probably about eight foot.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know, so they make him foot taller than me.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
But he probably weighed about twelve hundred pounds because I
was raised around cows, you know, so I'm estimate weights
pretty well.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But he, Uh, the canines were at least i'd say
as wide a part as my hand is wide.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, so about as wide apart as your cellphone is tall.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's a good five and a half six inches, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That his and there as big as round as my thumb.
And they came down on his mouth. His mouth was
closed most of the time except when I was shout him,
and then he opened his mouth up. And he had
a some smaller pointed teeth on the bottom, but they
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were I wouldn't ready to call him, you know, not
like things. Just yeah, it was not things, just like
a dog that you know. And uh, he was kind
of a the sun was shining on his fur. He's
kind of a reddish brown. He in the when it
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was when it was dark in there, it looks he
looked solid black. So I actually originally I thought was
black man. But when I saw his face and stuff.
He didn't have a lot of hair around his eyes,
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had long hair about four inches long.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
On his head. He didn't really have the cone shaped
head that a lot of people talk about. But his
head did sit back on us.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And he had no neck sat back on the trap usis.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, and he had huge his shoulders were huge.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm talking about at days at least five five and
a half feet.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Why Jesus, that's the width of a pickup trucks in tailgate.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, he was, he was being And.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
What did you notice as far as an actual skin.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Color, Well, he had a kind of a darker He
wasn't black. It was charcoal gray or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, it's kind of an ashy color.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And what else I noticed was he had long, long
fingernails and his fingers were huge. His hands and his
fingers were huge, and it's he reached up above his
head when I shot him and grabbed a limb that
was the least six foot over his head. He grabbed
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the limb in the tree. And I don't know if
he's trying to get a balance or what. I wasn't
hanging around to see. And somebody else asked me, why
did you shoot that for your fit? Steven back into
boods like that, I said, I just want to make
sure I wasn't being.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Flolid, and I got I was going to ask if
you if if he was actually I didn't after you,
or if that was just.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
A that was just to let him know that I
wasn't done.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, I was done, but I didn't want him to
know all, I couldn't hardly move it all.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
By the time I got to the car. Like I say,
it crushed my ankle. That was amazed.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
At the hospital that even got out of the woods,
I didn't tell them what happened.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I just told him it was all, you know, not
not to dwell on on on something that was obviously
a horrific experience for you. But at the at the
moment that you you placed that double barrel shotgun to
its abdomen. Yeah, wouldn't you know? You yourself said you
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sold firearms for for a living. You you know what
you know what a shotgun will do to a to
an animal, normal animal, and and what it can do
to a human beings torso.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
With with no man could have wishpood that it would
kill him dead.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And yet this thing you can't. You can't tell me
that you killed it.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
No, I can't tell you. I can't honestly tell you
that I killed it. But I can't say that I
didn't kill it.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean, uh, he might have crawled off somewhere and died,
or he might still be living today.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I don't really know. Now.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You you bugged out rather quickly, as quickly as I could.
So did you ever see him leave his knee?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And no, I never seen it lead us in it. Yeah,
I never seen it pull itself up with his arm.
I just see him reach up and grab that limb.
It's almost like he was going to fall or he
felt like he was gonna fall in and grab that limb.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You know, But isn't that out of the fisherman heard
heard that horrendous scream.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But but you they didn't hear that scream. Well there's
still at the boat ramp backing out when all that happened.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, I mean, you know, and you don't recall that
at all.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Remember hearing the scream, all.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Your brain was getting inside of here.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
And that's exactly what my brain was. Now, h.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Did you did you ever did you ever have any
contact with authorities or anything as far as you know
the experience. Did you did you attempt to talk to
local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Or back in those days, you didn't talk to law
local law enforcements about stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
This isn't then. This happened in the seventies, so.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
So by by your statement there, yeah, I'm going to
assume that that that this the matter of these beings,
these these these individuals. It was it was fairly commonly
known that these things are in that area well, and
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that people just didn't talk about it or yeah, that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Well, our parents and grandparents always told us there were
burgers in the woods and my parents my uh, we
owned six hundred acres down there, own Soft River and
had cows down there. So it wasn't the first time
I had seen one, but it was the first time
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I had any interaction with.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
One sort of.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'd seen one pretty close to me when I was
a little boy.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But can you can you can you go into that experience?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, I guess so.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Uh I was putting out hay and put out hate
for our caves at night. And uh I was put
out hay. And back then we had square bells. We
didn't have round bells like they do now.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And uh one run up and slapped the side of
the truck and uh so I bailed off the other side.
My dad stopped and got his thirty six out And
that's about the run back in the woods.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That didn't there wasn't nothing else after that.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It just ran out there and to get the side
of the truck had a big dent beside the truck.
Of course daddy Dad was cussing like a sailor. But
other than that, scared to live in crap.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Out of me.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I imagine about can you give Gustamate what age you
were at?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I was probably about seven or eight. So was this?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What was the conversation with your dad after that?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I mean, there wasn't no conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You didn't talk about it, she said.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He said, he said, I told you there were boogers
in the woods, that's all he said.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I was crying. It scared me.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
But today, if I saw one, if I was with
down one hundred yards of it, if you're within one
hundred yards of a big foot, you're in their kill range.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's how fast they are.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You're not safe at one hundred yards. So if you're
not packing heat, and I don't mean a thirty eight
or nine milimeter or now, you better have a forty
five or and you better make it a head shot,
eyeshot or something like that, because.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I saw one later on years down the road.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
A guy shot one with three o eight and he
didn't even stagger, he didn't even stop.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He's just kept coming.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh my word.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah. So but that's a story for a different time.
That was a deer hunting story.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, let me just ask you one thing about that.
And I think it kind of circles back to when
you shot the one that you were with. Uh yeah,
I mean there's obvious penetration of the bullet. Correct.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, Well, the bullets went through and me and some
friends of mine went down there two weeks after it happened. Yeah,
when I got out of hospital, because that's the first
thing I want to do, and we was loaded for bear.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Then you know, I cared.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I carred two three fisted sevens and my god barrow
shot gun and uh, you know, my friends all had
guns and uh thirty ought six sists and stuff like that,
but we didn't find. The only thing we found is worked.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Uh. The bullets went into this pine tree, right and
uh and that's it. No hair, no nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And I was tempted to dig the bullets out, but
I didn't do it, and I probably should have, but I.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
No, I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I wasn't that interested in it at that time. And two, uh,
you know, everybody had heard about the Foult monster at
that time and right, all that stuff, and so yeah,
it's just a crazy time anyway, So.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So you know, you mentioned that your parents and your
grandparents each had had warned you off as as far
as boogers in the woods.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, they warned all of us, all the grandkids off
this we had, like I had like thirty two cousins
and all of us have been told, you know, And
was was.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
It kind of just a flippant remark like, oh, the
bogger is going to get you if you guys misbehave
or or was it an a and an actual Hey
you got to.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Be home before dark? Are them boogers will get you?
And always traveling in groups, you know, yeah, two or more, But.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
There's times I've been in the woods.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I've been in the wood to by myself with twenty
two nd the squirrels a million times, never seen a thing.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
But you know, I think it happens this way.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm not sure, but my theory is that once you
see one, I have an encounter with one, you'll see more.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I don't know if they tag.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Here or or what, but I've never heard I've never
heard that. Of course, some people say that they speak
to them, you know, yes, but I have heard them
talk to each other. Yeah, when I was in boy Scouts.
We just camp down there all the time, and you
(26:41):
wake up in the middle of the you know, in
the middle of the night, and you can hear them
talking to each other that it sounded just like that
Sierra sam.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, the Sierra sound, the Samurai chatter.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, the Samurai chatter.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, But I think too, I.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Think that they're more violent in this part of the
country than they are up in uh, northwestern Washington, California.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm glad. I'm glad you brought that up, because that
that does seem to be an interesting trait. You know,
you hear about a lot less violent accounts, like in
the Pacific Northwest. They're almost like, you know, they step
out in front from behind a tree and they're like, hey,
I'm here, you know, and then they just walk off
(27:37):
for some reason. A lot of the accounts from Texas
seem to be more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, and well there's more more hunters, more people to
have guns down there, and and people will shoot, you know,
with that really thinking about what they're shooting at or yeah,
you know, if they're something's trespassing on their property or
(28:04):
got on their animals or got a dog or there
or a cab or.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
People here won't hesitate to shooting, and that's probably why.
I mean, but it's been that way for years and
years and years, so that's probably why they're aggressive like
that here.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So you think they're conditioned over from Yeah, family groups
raising their young in that area. They're probably taught that,
you know, better to err on the side of being
aggressive right off the bat than Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And another theory is that they raised their young in
the trees and that's why they walk like they do,
you know, in a straight line. Yeah, they walk, learn
to walk on the limbs, and that's why they walk
in such straight lines.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh, that's an interesting fact that I've never I've never
heard that put together, but yeah, that could be a
lot of sense the reason.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And that's another thing.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's why I think that we don't see little ones
like we The only time we're a route East Texans
or anybody Texs of that looking up in trees is
the one we're squirrel hunting, you know. And not that
many people squirrel hunt anymore, not many people that eat
(29:24):
squirrel stew. But I still eat squirrel stew, So you know,
more people are into deer and hog hunting. I go
hog hunting still, and deer hunting, dish and and.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
All that stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
So we've had a we had oh in fact, I
think in the nineties that are ninety two or somewhere.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
H used to a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Uh seeing the twenties, we had a sugar bearer what
they call sugarberry little black bearriers population here, but we
had a hunting season for them, and so we killed
them all off well in nineties. In the nineties, sometimes
it was in the paper that they was going to
let ninety six pair bear black bearry go on the
(30:18):
Type two property on Software River, and they had a
meeting down at this little town called Douglas Fhiel And
there's a bunch of arguing going on in One of
these uh Texas Ranger guys got up there and said,
we didn't come to ask you if we could do it.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We're just telling you we're doing it. And if you
shoot one of them, AT's.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
The five hundred dollars fine. If you're shoot and killed one,
it's a five hundred fine. So every once in a
while you don't see them very often. Every once in
a while you'll see a bear down here. Now really, Yeah,
and then they've had they also had a big release
turkey and so every once in a while you said
(31:02):
a wild turkey. But fire ants got a lot of
like the quail. We used to have a lot of
quail here. Fire ants destroyed the wall of quail. I
don't know when I brought that up, but I guess
because I'm talking about the turkey.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
But anyway, Uh, is that became? Is that you think
because quail spent so much time on the ground.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, they lay their eggs on the ground and they
you know, and too, they got a lot of funds
because a dough tell their phone to stay in a
certain place. And I mean I've seen people run over
with a bush old run over the phone not seeing
in the high grass or something, and it'll stay there.
And fire ants, if it's on a fire ain't now
(31:51):
now they eat it.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
But so in your in your I assume you've lived
there for years.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
You I think you told me off and on for years.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
And yeah, do you do you follow the subject of
of bigfoot? Do you do you follow reports and sightings?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Ever since uh, that one hit the side of the truck,
I have followed it. There was a book called on
the Track of Unknown Animals. I don't know who's by,
but I found it in the library at my school,
and that was a little bit of school that wasn't
a big school, and I used to keep that book
(32:35):
checked out read about it, and they told all about
you know, different things, and not just big book but
different kinds of animals.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Lot that's my obst uh uh and other things. But
that uh, I'm not really interested in uh fifty one.
But I do read a lot. I see a lot
of videos about it. It comes on. I watched the
(33:06):
History Channel a lot. Oh sure, yeah, and so I
see a lot about that. But yeah, so in the.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Area that you live, you know, throughout the years, have
have there been many sightings that you know of? I mean,
is this something that you know, guys at the general
store talk about, or you know, you sit down at
a bar and everybody's big foot story.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Or you don't really I want to talk about say'll
make funy of you if you do. But they will
talk about it around the campfire somewhere. I mean, they'll
talk about things that that's happened to them or you know,
something happened to their uncle or their grandfather or you know,
something like that if you're out, but if you're around
(33:56):
a bunch of people that they don't talk about it,
they don't talk about over coffee down at the coffee
shop or nothing. But it's, uh, it's hard for people
to come out and talk about things that happened.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I mean, well, yeah, nobody wants to be ridiculed.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, And uh, I'm already a monster myself, you know,
I'm so big and made fun out of a lot myself.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't understand that who the hell would be dumb
enough to make fun of somebody who was six foot ten?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well there, you just you don't know, you know, people
are just crazy, very crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And and and the fact, you know when you when
you tell me, when you told me your height and
your weight approximate weight at the time when you had
this incident, Yeah, that that's an amazing that's an amazing
amount of meat for something to just grab a hold
of with one hand and drag through a wooded area.
(35:02):
You know, I assume you were being drug across the
fallen trees.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And through briars and everything else. And I honestly forgot
that I had that pok gage with me. I mean,
I was trying. I was kicking that at one of
my foot and.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I just it just when it dropped me, my hand
hit it the gun.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
And then I just automatically I picked it up and
my the end of my barrel was sticking in his
hair when I pulled the triggers. And uh, now, thinking
back on it later on, Uh, I had a long
sleeve shirt on.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
At the time, but I had the sleeve pocked up.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But I was married at the time, and my wife
said that she got blood out of the sleeve on
my right arm.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That wasn't my blood blood. Oh wow. Yeah, so there
was some blow black blow back. Yeah, from that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It's just you know, I mean, it's just an amazing
thing to think that you could empty a double barrel
twelve gage with slugs and and it dropped it to
its knee. But it didn't floor it. It didn't it
didn't level it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well that just tells you the strength that the body
strength are those things. Uh, you know, that should have
blowed his spine and too. Yeah on a normal man,
a normal human man. If I shoot you like that
with the cloud gage, it blow you and haf you know.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, I had no doubt, but not in this case.
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Now with being as close as you were, you know,
and you had the recollection of the teeth and the
hair length and the color of the skin, what was
the what would your description of the face itself be?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Well, you know, I didn't see a lot of people
say they see red eyes, glowing eyes, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It looked like I had brown eyes or you know,
regular eyes eyes. It didn't. They didn't wasn't. Well, they
looked a little shocked when I was leaving the area,
you know. Yeah, it looked a little wide eyed, but uh.
(37:45):
And his nose, his nose was more, it was more.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
It was flat, you know, like you just think of
gorilla or something like that. It had a little a
little bit of a nose like we do. And then
he had small lips. His lips were small. He didn't
(38:10):
have big lips, a small straight His mouth was probably
eight inches wide total.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Just very thin lips, very thin lips. Yeah, when you
looked at it, were you looking at an animal or
were you looking at a person?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I was looking at beast.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I never seen a person look like that, And to
be honest with you, I've never seen an animals that
look like that. I've shot all kinds of animals, fare,
you know, deer, all kinds of animals, and when I
look at them, I see animals. Yeah, But when I
(38:53):
looked at him, I saw a beast, and honestly, I
seen a killer. And a lot of people say they
have round fingernails like ours rounded, but he had long fingernails.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
They were probably.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Half inch inch longer than you know then you would think,
and they wasn't pointed or anything, but they they work
round at paper though, because I got the scar on
my ankle proof but uh, the doctor said, it's a miracle.
(39:35):
I got out of there with my ankle messed up.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
As was.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Do you have any recollection really of how you How
were you able to to motivate.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
On that on that apple? Fear? I think fear and
adrenaline itself got me out of that. I was I
was scared, but.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I wouldn't be scared. I'd go back there today. I'd
go down there tonight, would you really?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah, I'd go down there, and I'm not scared, but see,
i'd be pegging heat. I'd have it four hifty four.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And I also have a forty five long rifle, low
reaction rifle, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
So, I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
This four fifty four and had five rounds the revolver,
And but I can at a fifty yards, I can
hit a quarter with it. So it's got quite a
bit of recall. But I haven't magnet pored it. I
(40:51):
don't know if you know what that means.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I do.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Actually, when I was in my mid and late teens,
I was on a competition pistol team with my dad
and oh yeah he had he had a magna ported
uh forty five.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, this got a little more kicking than the forty five.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
So, but this shoots the same bullet that's my rifle,
does it. Yeah, it's pistol stage.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Right by my side all the time, right here beside me,
right now. When the when the trash man was out there,
I had it on my belt and he said, y'all
are serious up here, ain't you?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
And I said, you know, you never know.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Before we close this out any lasting effects, you know. Uh,
it's it's got to affect your psache to some extent,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Well, I mean I'm just more aware.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'm more aware of things, and I've always been able
to see pretty good at night.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I see better at night than I did in the daytime. Really,
I always work.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It's either a weld er, I worked on computers or
you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
So I was always in the dark working on stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Only light up when I strike a weld or when
I get on a keyboard or something. And and so
I've always been able to I've been attentive to things
at night and in the dark.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I don't know, you know, going back to your grandparents
and your parents who with warning you and all of
your cousins and everything, were there were there any specific
like road signs that they said to watch out for,
you know, I mean if you notice the woods get
(42:51):
through quiet or yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
That if it gets real quiet, or if you fear
you're being watched, come home. If you feel like you're
being watched, come home.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
That was a big thing.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, you know, now you got to worry about pedophiles
and idiots like that.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
After the woods.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
But uh, you know, the one thing I wonder about
or I don't know why I run into these things,
and I never run into anybody that's done some criminal.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Stuff that could, you know, And.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I'd rather shoot a pedophile then I had a creature
that's just trying to live off the land.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And right, I agree with you one hundred percent there. Yeah,
there's a special place in hell for those people.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, you're run.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
But I got some more stories, but I ain't gonna
tell them to you today. Well, but if you want
to hear them, you call me sometime and we talk
about it.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
I'd love to hear more from you, David.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I have a good friend. I might get him that.
I was with him one time and we saw one
it was taller than his truck. He had one of
the first jacked up trucks around, you know, truck. Yeah
it was, and he was taller than cab his truck.
(44:25):
But that's another story. But anyway, I enjoyed talking to you,
and you didn't make me feel an That's a good thing,
because I'd hate to have to drive it through your house.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I would not I would not be happy to see
your silhouette coming up to my doors, or if you
were angry, If you were angry, all right, sir David,
it's been an absolute pleasure talking with you, and I
would love if you if you get the if you
get a wild hair, and you'd like to tell me more.
I would be more than happy to to do this
(44:57):
again with you. All right, thank you for taking the time,
and I certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
All right, thank you, thanks.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.