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Let's take a moment and imagine something together. You're on
a weekend hike, along a way to escape into the
stillness of the woods, far from the noise of work, traffic,
the endless scrolling of screens. It's the kind of hike
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that promises peace and maybe even a little renewal. You're
not alone. There are a few of you, good friends,
the kind who know how to read a map and
pack just enough gear to feel confident and maybe a
little overconfident. The trail winds deeper than expected, the sun's
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been swallowed by an overcast sky, and the GPS your
phone hasn't had signal in a while. You should have
turned back some time ago, but something about the place
it feels magnetic quiet, too quiet, And that's when you
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hear it, a low, distant whooping, deep, resonant and undeniably biological.
It rolls through the trees like thunder. One of your
buddies chuckles nervously. Elk, he says, but there's no conviction
in his voice. Then a knock, sharp and sudden, wood
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on wood, followed by another, rhythmic, deliberate, not the sound
of a branch falling or an animal rustling, this was intentional.
Now you notice the forest isn't just quiet, it's dead.
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No bird song, no insect, just the uneasy shuffle of
boots and your breath. And then the smell hits, a thick,
sour musk, wet dog, rotting meat, and something else, something primal.
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You don't want to admit it, but every instinct inside
you is saying you're being watched. Then, from just beyond
the tree line, you see it, or at least enough
to know you're not imagining things. A massive figure, easily
eight feet tall, steps out, just far enough that the
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dying light catches the silhouette, broad shoulders, long arms, no neck,
covered in dark, long matted hair. The eyes, though, the
eyes reflect intelligent, calculating, not just watching, almost as if
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it's studying you. There's no time to speak before it
releases a sound that shakes your chest, a deep, guttural roar,
not like a bear, not like any predator you've ever heard.
It's like the earth itself bellowed. Then chaos, branches crashing
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behind you. Something huge is moving fast, too fast for
its size. You and your friends bolt in different directions,
panic overwriting, logic. You don't even hear yourself scream. Now
it's dark, you're alone. You think you've circled back to
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the trail, but every tree looks the same. The forest
has swallowed your footsteps. You stop to catch your breath. Then,
from the edge of the clearing, the shape, still watching,
closer than before, it steps forward slowly. And then and
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that's where the story stops because we don't know what
happens next. But for thousands of people around the world,
that first part, they'll tell you it's real. So what
do we do with that? What do they do with that?
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of thought into this one. It's another one where it's
just me and my thoughts on a specific topic. And
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if you can tell by the opener, you probably know
what it's about. So if you're ready, let's get into it.
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For decades, the legend of Bigfood or Zasquatch has captivated
the public imagination. While many dismiss these claims as folklore,
a closer look at the body of evidence suggests there
may be more to the story than mere myth. Numerous
credible witnesses, including military veterans, school educators, first responders, reported
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encounters or the peripheral effects of an elusive presence in
the woods of America, of the woods of Canada, within
the wilds of nearly every continent on this planet. Trained
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observers who are accustomed to detail and accurate reporting to me,
lend significant weight to accounts that hint at something extraordinary
moving through our forests and mountains. You have to consider
the numerous reports by individuals whose professions demand rigorous observation skills.
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Military personnel, for instance, are not prone to exaggeration. Their
experiences in hostile and changing environments have taught them to
trust what they see. Similarly, first responders and educators, whose
responsibility revolve around safety and clear communication, have offered accounts that,
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when taken together, build a compelling narrative. These professionals risk
their reputations by speaking out on a subject that many
in academia have long dismissed, Yet their testimonies point to
a consistent description and una explain phenomenon that deserves further exploration.
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If we approach the topic from an ecological standpoint, several
factors suggest that the natural world could support a creature
like sasquatch. The regions where sasquatch sidings are common, such
as the Pacific Northwest or the Appalachian Mountains, are rich
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in biodiversity. Dense forests, abundant water sources, and diverse flora
provide ideal environment with plentiful food ranging from berries to
nuts to small mammals and insects. In such ecosystems, an
unknown primate could feasibly find all the nourishment it needs,
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thriving in an environment that mirrors those of known large mammals.
Just like many animals migrate or change their habitats and
or response to seasonal shifts or mating behaviors, or even
environmental pressures, a creature like Bigfoot might also follow natural
patterns of movement. Some theories would suggest that human encroachment
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on wild areas could push these animals into closer contact
with us. Seasonal variations in food availability might drive migration,
while reproductive behaviors could lead them to traverse vast territories,
leaving behind physical evidence such as unique footprints or unusual
markings in the soil. Beyond the familiar wooded areas, cave
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systems and remote mountainous regions provide perfect hiding places and
natural shelters. Caves offer protection from the harsh weather, predators,
and human disturbances. In areas with extensive cave networks, like
the Pacific Northwest or the Appalachians, these environments could serve
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as both temporary refuges and permanent homes for a reclusive
species that thrives away from the spotlight. Intriguingly, there are
numerous reports suggesting that Bigfoot may not be entirely averse
to human presence. Instead, some sightings hint at a creature
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that is curious, sometimes even showing apparent interest in humans
and particularly in children. Folklore from various cultures tell tales
of beings that interact in mysterious ways with humans, sometimes
as a form of benign curiosity or even playful mischief.
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While these accounts are anecdotal, they open a door to
the possibility that sasquatch might be more than just a
wild animal. It could be an intelligent creature whose behavior
is shaped by both survival instincts and curiosity about our species.
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Adding weight to these ecological and behavioral considerations. Are several
professionals and academics who have risked ridicule to research and
publish findings in support of Bigfoot's existence. Take, for instance,
Grover Krantz, an anthropologist who challenged conventional views on human evolution.
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Krantz extensively analyzed footprint casts and other physical evidence. His
willingness to cross traditional academic boundaries made him one of
the most respected voices suggesting that Sasquatch might be a real,
living creature. John Napier, as a primatologist and a paleoanthropologist.
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Napier was among the first reputable scientists to take Bigfoot seriously.
His investigations into eyewitness accounts in physical traces such as
the Patterson Gimlin film and footprint casts suggests that the evidence,
while not definitive, was compelling enough to warrant further study.
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Then you have Jeffrey Meldrum. Doctor Meldrum has delved deep
into the minutia of footprint morphology. His detailed analysis, including
the study of dermal ridges and casts, suggests that these
prints could indeed belong to an unknown primate species, reinforcing
the need for an open scientific inquiry. Then you have
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John Bendernagel and Dimitri Beyanov. Both of these researchers have
contributed extensive work on the topic, gathering eyewitness accounts, analyzing
physical evidence, and challenging the mainstream scientific dismissal of sasquatch.
Bender Nagel's field research in Canada and Beyonov's work in
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hominology further illustrate the global nature of these investstigations. Both
researchers have contributed extensive work on the topic, gathering eyewitness accounts,
analyzing physical evidence, and challenging the mainstream scientific dismissal of sasquatch.
Bender Nagel's field research in Canada and Bayanov's work in
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hominology further illustrate the global nature of these investigations, urging
us to consider that dismissing Bigfoot outright may be premature.
By drawing on both ecological reasoning and the courageous work
of these professionals, it becomes clear that the topic of
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sasquatch is not merely a fringe idea, but a legitimate
field of inquiry. The consistency and eyewitness accounts, the availability
of plausible natural habitats, and the detailed analysis of physical
evidence suggests that the phenomenon warrants serious investigation. Bigfoot sightings
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often occur in regions with rich biodiversity providing ample food resources.
These areas typically include dense forests, mountain terrains, and regions
abundant with flora and fauna. Potential food sources for creature
might encompass berries, nuts, roots, various plant material, small to
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medium sized mammals, fish, insect and carrion. The diverse ecosystems
of the Pacific Northwest, for example, offer a variety of
these food sources, aligning with the regions where bigfoot sightings
are frequently reported. While concrete evidence of Bigfoot's existence and
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migration patterns is lacking, some theory suggest that if a
creature exists, its movements could be influenced by seasonal changes.
Shifts in climate and food availability might prompt migration to
a more high hospitable area. Mating behaviors seeking mates could
lead to the movement of cross vast terrains. Increasing human
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activity could drive bigfoot to relocate to less disturbed habitats.
Bigfoot sightings are often reported in areas with dense forests,
mountainous regions and proximity to water sources. Cave systems could
offer shelter protection from harsh weather and predators. It could
also provide seclusion isolation from human activity, aligning with the
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elusive nature attributed to the Bigfoot. There are also reports
suggesting that Bigfoot may venture closer to human settlements, possibly
due to a lack of food, an attraction to our crops, livestock,
discarded food and curiosity, and innate interest in human activity. However,
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these accounts are anecdotal and no scientific evidence supports this behavior.
And if these things do exist, why haven't they been proven?
Why haven't they been shown to the public. Why is
there no serious scientific inquiry? Well, if we take a
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good look at it, how excited would you be to
go camping if you knew that there was a seven
to nine foot tall, six hundred to eight hundred pound
wild animal in the woods that you decided to go
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camping in. Think for a minute about the ramifications. If
these things were proven to exist, if we were told
the truth that they do exist, what would happen to
the logging and timber industries? If vast tracts of forests
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are designated as a critical habitat for a newly confirmed species.
Logging operations could face severe restrictions or outright bands in
these regions. The loss of access to timber resources could
negatively impact local economies that depend on the sustainable forestry reserves.
Similarly to logging, mining operations in the regions where these
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creatures believed to rome would likely be curtailed or halted.
Entirely protected land status would limit the exploitation of mineral resources,
leading to economic losses for companies and regions reliant on
resource extraction. Large scale land development projects could stall or
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be canceled completely if vast areas are suddenly recognized as
ecologically sensitive due to the presence of an unknown primate.
This could affect housing, commercial development, and infrastructure projects in
and around these wilderness areas, and what would it do
to our recreational industry. Recreational hunting and fishing could be
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restricted within newly protected zones for communities and enthusiasts that
have long enjoyed these activities in the wild new regulations
could reduce access to traditional hunting grounds and fishing spots,
thereby affecting local tourism and community traditions. Many outdoor enthusiasts
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participate in off roading, camping, and hiking in remote wilderness areas.
If these lands become highly regulated to protect the habitat
of a newly recognized species, access might be limited or
require special permits, reducing the freedom and spontaneity of these
popular hobbies. While cryptid enthusiasts might welcome the attention, broader
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participation in wilderness exploration could be dampened by increased law
enforcement and monitoring, reducing unsanctioned expeditions into these areas. In addition,
iconic national parks in wilderness reserves such as Yellowstone, Yosemite,
and those in the Pacific Northwest could see a significant shift.
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To protect the habitat of this unknown primate, Park regulations
might tighten, limiting tourists access, altering trail systems, and even
reducing permissible activities. This could lead to decreased visitor numbers
and reevaluation of park management strategies. Regions that currently market
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themselves as pristine natural getaways might experience restrictions on development
and tourism activities. Vacation destinations that offer you wilderness retreats,
adventure sports, or camping experiences could face limitations. Such measures
might include restricted access during breeding seasons. Vacation destinations that
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offer wilderness retreats, adventure sports, or camping experiences could face
limitations if large areas are reclassified as protected habitat. Such
measures might include restricted access during breeding seasons or critical
periods of the species life cycle, thereby affecting the seasonal
revenue streams for these destinations. The confirmation of a large,
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unknown primates existence would likely lead to a major shift
in land use policies. Industries that currently benefit from resource
extraction and land development, and remote regions would need to
adapt to new conservation priorities. This potential economic and cultural
disruption underscore is why the discussion around bigfoot isn't just
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about myth or folklore. It's about how modern society managed
and values its natural resources. The debate over the existence
of such a creature and the ramifications of its acceptance
could force us to rethink our relationship with the wilderness
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and the industries that have long exploited it. If evidence
emerged that bigfoot is not merely a large undiscovered primate,
but something more closely related to humans, perhaps a relict
hominin or a parallel branch of our evolutionary tree. The
implications would be profound across numerous fields. Discovering a creature
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that is more closely related to humans than other primates
would force scientists to re examine the evolutionary lineage of hominins.
This could lead to a radical overhaul of our current
understanding of human evolution and the branch paths that led
to our modern Homo sapiens. Such a discovery would open
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new avenues in genetics, paleoanthropology, and evolutionary biology. Researchers would
likely intensify efforts to study ancient DNA fossil records and
even modern populations to trace how these beings diverged from
our own ancestors. If these beings share significant genetic or
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cognitive similarities with humans, debates over the legal status would
quickly emerge. Questions about their rights, ethical treatment, and whether
they should be considered a sentient species with protections similar
to humans. The confirmation of a hominin relative living in
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the wild would upend many cultural, religious, and philosophical views
about human uniqueness. Protections for this new species might necessitate
drastic dramatic changes in how wilderness areas are managed. Especially
if these creatures in habit regions already under heavy human influence.
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Industries like logging and mining and tourism might face stricter
regulations if vast tracts of land are suddenly deemed the
habitat of a creature with human like attributes. Not only
would these areas be environmentally sensitive, but they might also
be seen as holding significant anthropological and cultural value. The
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revelation would compel educators, historians, and cultural theorists to revisit
and potentially rewrite narratives about human origins, migration, and interaction
with their environment. Myths and folklore surrounding creatures like Bigfoot
may gain a new dimension, serving as a bridge between
ancient storytelling and a modern scientific discovery. The need to understand, study,
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and ethically manage a specie so closely related to us
would promote a global dialogue on biodiversity, conservation, ethics, and
the responsibility we hold towards all sentient beings. If Bigfoot
were to be confirmed to be more closely related to humans,
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the repercussions would extend far beyond zoology or cryptozoology. It
would challenge the very foundation of human self understanding and
trigger a cascade of changes from scientific theories and legal
rights to environmental policies and cultural narratives. Such a paradigm
shift would demand careful, thoughtful response from society, one that
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balances the pursuit of knowledge with ethical responsibility and respect
for a species that, in many ways could be seen
as a part of our own extended family. Over the
past few decades, researchers have turned to DNA analysis as
a way to provide objective data in the Bigfoot debate.
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Numerous studies of analyzed samples hair blood, tissue from alleged
sasquatch encounters. While the vast majority of these samples has
been identified as belonging to known animals such as bears, dogs,
and even human contaminants, a small fraction have produced ambiguous
or unexplained genetic markers. Proponents of the Bigfoot hypothesis argue
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that these anomalies could indicate the presence of a creature
with a unique genetic makeup that defies easy classification. Genetic
material recovered from remote environments is often degraded and the
possibility of contamination is high. Many scientists contend that the
unexplained results are due to these technical challenges. Rather than
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the evidence of a new species. However, some researchers assert
that when rigorous protocols are applied, a few samples still
resist classification. This suggests that there might be more at
play than simple laboratory error. One of the strongest arguments
advanced by bigfoot researchers is that there may be an
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underlying motivation to suppress evidence that challenges established scientific paradigms.
Accepting the existence of a large, unknown primate in North
America would upend long held beliefs about human evolution, primate distribution,
and even our understanding of modern ecosystems. Some academics and
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professionals who have dedicated years to studying this phenomenon argue
that their controversial findings are often met with ridicule or
outrage dismissal by mainstream institutions. This resistance, they claim, is
not always based solely on the evidence at hand, but
all also on a reluctance to disrupt conventional wisdom. The
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idea of an effort to hide evidence is not new
in cryptozoology. Advocates point towards several factors. Acknowledging a new
hominid species could force a reevaluation of evolutionary narratives and
the classification of primate species. They're a speculation that government
agencies and powerful institutions might prefer to keep such information
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or raps to avoid public upheaval, or to protect interests
that could be destabilized by a dramatic shift in accepted science.
Some suggest that the reevaluation of a cryptid cohabitating with
humanity might lead to a widespread panic or unpredictable social reaction.
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Though these ideas are speculative, they contribute to a broader
narrative where anomalies in the DNA studies are not dismissed outright,
but are instead viewed as a potential clues to a
larger suppressed truth. When we examine the full spectrum of evidence,
a pattern begins to emerge. The DNA studies with their
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mix of definitive identifications and puzzling outliers at another layer
of intrigue. Rather than hastily dismissing these anomalies as mere
laboratory errors or contamination, it may be more productive to
see them as part of an ongoing investigation. The courage
of researchers like Grover Krantz, John Napier Jeffrey Meldrum, John
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Bindernagel Dmitri Beyanoff demonstrate that pursuing this line of inquiry
comes with professional risk, but also with the potential to
reshape our understanding of the natural world. In this light,
the controversial DNA findings should not be viewed solely as
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failures to find a genetic signature of sasquatch, but rather
as invitations for more rigorous, open minded research. They remind
us that nature often holds secrets that defy easy categorization,
and that sometimes the search for truth must contend with forces,
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whether institutional, political, or cultural, that would rather keep the
mystery intact. This deep dive of mind, this word salad
that I felt compelled to put together, is a call
to listeners enthusiasts to maintain an inquisitive mind and willingness
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to explore the fringes of conventional science. The persistence of
unexplained genetic markers, when combined with consistent eyewitness accounts and
the thoughtful work of dedicated researchers who have spent many,
many years of their life in the search of this truth,
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suggests that the phenomenon of sasquatch warrants further investigation. In
doing so, we honor this spirit of inquiry that challenges
the status quo, and we leave open the possibility that
what we consider myth today might be revealed as reality tomorrow.
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By questioning established narratives and embracing rigorous investigation, even when
it invites ridicule, we can create a space for discoveries
that have the potential to redefine our understanding of the
natural world. I hope you've enjoyed this. Until next time,
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stay uncomfortable, my friends,