February 28, 2025 • 60 mins
Trisha joins the show tonight to talk about witnessing a strange Plasma UFO near the mouth of the Cape Fear river. This is an area showcased in the book UFO of God by Chris Beldsoe. Her sighting was a couple of years after Bledsoe's encounter but well before the release of his controversal book.
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I've got a great guest lined up for you tonight.
Her name is Tricia, and Tricia witnessed a strange light
that captured her attention for a good while. Now, the
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thing that I think is unique about this experience is
where she saw it, Cape fear River. Desiring about it
should So if you're ready, let's get into this. If
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you will, please give a warm uncomfortable welcome to Tricia. Tricia,
Welcome to Uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So this happened to me in May of two thousand
and nine. At the time, we were running a house
on the beach on the west end of Oak Island
in North Carolina. It's near Wilmington. I woke up in
the night and I saw something flash outside. I was
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half asleep, so I didn't really pay a lot of attention,
and I just thought it was late thing. So I
went in and went to the bathroom and I came
back out and I saw what I can only describe
as a plasma in the clouds over the ocean, and
(03:18):
it seemed to be in a shape of a ball
that I couldn't really see the edges of it, and
it was sort of in the clouds, and so I
sat down and looked, you know, just didn't know what
I was looking at. It was sort of a purple
and like a hot pink, and I just kept watching it.
(03:42):
It didn't move, It just stayed outside of the window
over the ocean, and I watched it for probably a
couple of hours, and then I fell asleep. I wasn't afraid,
and I actually had an odd sense of peace. So
(04:06):
I woke up in the learning and I didn't tell
anybody what happened. I just didn't really have the words
to describe it. It wasn't you know, I'm like, it
didn't look like the UFO. You know, I grew up
in the seventies and eighties and Close Encounters.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Was a UFO, and this was not your typical UFO.
There were no you know, beings or anything. It was
just this plasma.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And so I felt, like I said, I felt a
really odd sense of peace, and I felt like it
was important and meant for me to see it, if
that makes any sense. But after that, you know, I
just I didn't know what to tell anybody, and it's
(05:03):
just a weird it's a weird thing. So, and to
give a little bit of a backstory, I in the
year previous to that, we had lost several members of
my family, including my dad, and so I was struggling
with complex grief. My daughter was struggling. I was trying
(05:26):
to look after my mom, you know, she was everything.
Everything just sort of fell apart. And yeah, it was.
It was a really rough time. And so I had
really been struggling, and you know, leading up to this,
you know, to being there, I just kept thinking, you know,
(05:48):
something's got to give, you know, I've got to I've
got to figure out how to deal with this. So
after this happened, like I said, I had this, you know,
this very disdain feeling of peace, like it was okay,
And after that happened, I really.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I know you've listened to the show, and I know
you probably know that I interrupt I get chastised for
it repeatedly. But before you get too much further into this,
there's there's a couple of things that that I wanted
to touch on. You keep saying that, you know, there
(06:30):
was kind of a peaceful peacefulness to to the sighting
first of all, when you saw it and and it
it grabbed your attention. I had an experience about a
year ago where it was broad daylight. I was looking
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outside my living room window and I saw something that
was about I've described it as being maybe one and
a half times the length of a crow, but you
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didn't see any wings. It was it was it had
a kind of a pointy protuberance out the front, and
it kind of had a pointy proturberance out the back.
Very narrow, but about one and a half times the
size of a big crow. But at center mass there
was this undulating fall of plasma and I just saw
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it briefly as it went a cross between two trees,
one tree in one yard, one tree in the other yard.
So I mean I got, you know, maybe maybe a
second and a half or two seconds of it to
see it. But this thing was not big. It was
not huge. When you when you looked out over the
ocean and you saw this thing, did you did you
(08:08):
get any sense of size or possibly distance from you.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I couldn't really tell you the distance because it was
over the ocean, you know, so I didn't have anything
to you know, I couldn't tell where it was relative
to anything else, but it didn't really look to be
very big.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If I had to guess, I would say maybe ten feet.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, ten foot Diama, Yes, okay. And when you when
you talk about this, this piece, I think you even
said you got this feeling that it was it was okay.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Can you can you kind of dive into that a
little bit more? Yeah? Is it is it like a
feeling that you were being told that everything that you
were going through was okay, or that the fact that
it itself was there was no biggie, it was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I guess maybe a little bit of both. I felt
I did feel, you know, like like it like something
you know about it was making me think, Okay, everything's
going to be okay. You got this, you know it's
it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And like I said, up until that point, you know,
I hadn't been able to feel that way for for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah. Well, that's a lot to go through.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was you know, it was hell.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It was help going through all that, you know, and
then everybody around you, you know, it's dealing with with
grief as well, and so you know, and I'm I'm
sort of a take charge kind of gal, and so
you know, I'm I'm trying to take care of everybody
else first, and then you know, trying to figure out
how I can how I can make things better better
for me too, And you know, I was, I was
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really struggling.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, So let's let's move on with you know,
where where did this take you? Then?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I didn't tell anybody in my whole family. I
you know, I just didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know that that kind of thing. You know, it's
it's been in you know, in the news, and you know,
in the.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
UFO circle, that kind of experience has really only come
forward in the last few years. And the very first
time I heard anything about it was just a few
years ago. I read a lot. So I was reading
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Chris Bledsoe's book UFO of God, and I didn't really
I mean, you know, I didn't know specifics what it
was about or anything. And when I read it and
I'm like, oh, that's not far from where that happened
where I saw that. It's not far at all, and
I'm like, that is really weird. And so I started
(11:31):
reading more into the book and I think I said,
oh shit, about eighty times. It was you know, his
experience and his I guess perception of it was was
quite a bit different. Plus he had a lot of ongoing,
you know, ongoing experiences that he described in the book,
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and mine was just a it was a one time.
I never saw anything like that before, you know, or since.
And you know, so, you know, I don't really have
any answers to any of it other than the way
it made me feel, you know that it was like,
(12:12):
you know, it was very positive, and you know he
described in the book, you know, how he felt it was.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It was very you know, it was a positive experience.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And you know, I think that's where you know, the
similarities are, you know, with with my experience and his
and being in the same geographical area, right.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So, like as best you can, how how close was
your sighting in relation to where he he claimed his I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think if if I'm thinking of where he described
that that first, it's probably only maybe twenty miles if that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, So he had his experience in two thousand and seven,
you had years in two thousand and nine, yes, and
then twenty twenty two, I believe is when the book
was published.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I think that's right. I know it was just a
couple of years ago when I read it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So you pick this up just by chance, or you yeah,
just you have some interest in UFOs or.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I have always had an interest.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You know, my mom when I was when I was
a kid back in the seventies, she had an experience herself,
nothing like that. Hers was different. And I've always had
an interest, but you know, I never thought i'd actually
see something, but I you know, I've always had an
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interest in those kinds of things. And like I said,
I grew up in the seventies and eighties, and you know,
Closed Encounters was thing.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It was. It's funny because this past summer, I believe
it was in July, Close Encounters of the Third Kind
got re released at a theater that is in my hometown,
and my daughter was in town. So I said, hey,
let's because it had been since I don't even know
(14:25):
what year that came out, nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty
something like that, I said, why don't you go with
your old manning, let's go see this movie. I haven't
seen it in the theaters for, you know, all these years.
And she knows my son knows that. You know, I
delve into this stuff a lot, and they grew up
with me always having something about UFOs or Bigfoot on
(14:46):
the TV or all of our Steen services were you know,
just chuck full of it. But she went, I think
she went pretty much to pacify me. But when we
walked out of there, she just kind of looked at
me and she's like, that was an incredible movie. She said,
(15:10):
that was you know that even though you could tell that,
you know, it was dated because of the cars and
the in the clothes and the haircuts and all that,
she's like, it really held up pretty well. And she's like,
I had no idea this movie was as good as
what it was.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, that was just phenomenal when it came out. You know,
I remember being a little kid and seeing it and thinking,
oh my gosh, this is great.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, so do you mind? Do you mind going into
your mom's account? And I guess the reason I bring
it up is one, obviously I'm interested, and I think
the listeners will be interested as well. But there there
does tend to be a a tendency of a hattern
(16:02):
with family members having experiences.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, And it was funny because Both my mom and
her brother also had had a sighting at separate times,
but my mom hers was I'd say hers was probably
in the in the late seventies. She was coming home
(16:34):
from work and she saw saw something large in the
sky and it was over top of her, and then
at at some point it went in front of her,
so it was, you know, it was pacing her, but
(16:54):
it was in front of her, and then it just
shot off. And she said, it's scary to death when
it happened, you know, And she came home and told
my dad, you know, and uh, and so.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You know that's in my mind, you know, all those years,
that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's what I thought of you A fulciting was, you know,
That's that's what I thought it was. And you know,
so when this happened to me, I had no frame
of reference to even describe it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Was she ever able to describe to you what she saw?
I mean, shape wise? Lights? No lights?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
She said it did have lights, and she said it
was very large, but she didn't she couldn't describe as
shape really, just that you know, it went in front
of her and then it disappeared like it just shot off.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Did she ever say what, like, what drew her attention
to it to begin with?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Uh, she didn't, she didn't. She didn't say, I don't
know if it you know, if she noticed it, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Out the side. At first, she didn't really say.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Interesting, and then you said her.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Brother, Yeah, her brother. It was around the same time.
He was in the car with his wife at the time,
and they were on a country road and he came
up over a hill and there was one hovering over
(18:32):
the road in front of them, and so he just
slammed on the brakes and it, you know, he just
they just had to kind of watching it for a minute,
and the same thing, it.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Just took off and disappeared and it was gone.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Was this around the same time? Is your mom's it was?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
It was close to the same time.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Interesting. I wonder if there's anything to that.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I always wondered too.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So you drew you drew several correlations to Chris Bledsoe's
experience and in your experience and even those yours. Was
it was visual and at a at a good distance.
(19:30):
What are we looking at here? Been fifteen sixteen years?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, it's been sixteen years.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's it's stayed with you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It has and you know, even though I didn't tell
anybody at the time, I thought about it all the time.
And and it's it's really funny because we go to
that into the island all the time, and I think
about it. You know, I still think about it, like frequently,
(20:07):
and I'm always you know, looking over that way to see,
you know, see if I see anything, you know. But
but like I said, it was the best way I
can describe it is I needed something to remind me
(20:28):
that there was there's something more to life than death
and suffering. And I came away with a sense of
peace and that everything was going to be okay and
I was going to work through this, and so you
know that. And I think that's why it was so significant,
(20:52):
was because of those feelings I had about it.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Do you think do you think that it and when
I say it, I mean the essence of whatever it
was was interacting with you to provide that or do
you think just the witnessing of something so unusual, so
(21:28):
not something that some many people get to see. Do
you think that that could have been the impetus behind
kind of shaking you out of that Everything's terrible, Everything's horrible,
everything's going wrong. Did it give you? Was it? Was
(21:49):
it something you felt interacted with you and helped you
get through that, or was it just the fact that
you saw something that was wondrous and unusual that made
you snap out of it and and say, oh, there
there's more to there's more to life than than all this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I and you know, it's it's another one of those
things that was a feeling. I felt like I was
meant to see it, and I don't really I don't
really know why I think that, and you know that,
you know, and that's that's where I went, you know,
round and around with it for years, you know, that
same thing. You know, It's like, oh, was I just
(22:30):
in that love of a place where I was just
looking for something, you know, to to make me remember
or you know.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Did it? Did it?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Was there some sort of you know exchange there? You know,
there there were no you know, like some people you
hear them described there were words in my head or
there was just there was nothing like that. It was
just you know, it was just very positive and you
know it really you know, and you know, like I
(23:01):
said it, I thought about it every day for a
long time, and I just kept thinking, you know, I
woke up in the middle of the night and that's
what I see. Yeah, And and and like I said,
I it wasn't it wasn't fleeting. I sat and watched
it for about two hours I think is approximately how long,
(23:27):
and I fell I actually fell asleep watching it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's that's an incredibly long sustained Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, you know in your mind, you know, you're you're thinking, oh,
you know, I dreamed it or I did. It's like, no,
it definitely wasn't a dream. And and like I said,
when I first woke up, I saw a flash outside,
but I thought it was lightning, and so I just,
you know, I'm half asleep and go in and and
then as I'm walking back to my side of the bed,
(23:59):
I looked.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Out and I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And I just I just sat and watched it. And
like I said, it stayed in that same area.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It didn't move.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay, which is a great point. I'm glad you said that,
because at any point during the nearly two hours that
you did watch this, did it exhibit any kind of
did it exhibit any additional flashes where there were there
(24:34):
are bright strobes that came off this thing that would
remind you that that's the flash that woke me up
this and it's done it again, and it did it
again and or nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, nothing like that, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Like like that first that first flash that I noticed.
After that it was sort of sort of almost like
the pulsating, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Like it was just it was just.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
A very like I said, I've never seen anything like it.
And you know, I've only ever heard anybody else describe
things like that over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So when you said it was pulsating, I think that
I know what you're meaning, because that was a very
hard thing for me to describe when trying to tell
some of my friends about this thing that I had seen, Yeah,
about a year ago. It wasn't until I was watching
(25:37):
the documentary and I I had seen it. When I
saw it, I knew I had seen it before, and
it was it was in a documentary or a show
about UFOs or I knew that I had seen a
very good depiction of what I saw at the center
(26:00):
mass of this object. And it was several months and
I have I have a smart TV and when when
you connect to it's a Samsung and it's loaded with
some streaming channels that you don't have to pay for,
(26:21):
and in the in the three thousands challenge channels, it's
like three thy fifty or something like that, and pretty
much Ancient Aliens is on all the time, and there's
different alien shows and stuff like that, and I just
(26:43):
happened to turn one on. It was a It was
a documentary. I knew I had seen it a long
time ago, but I just had it on in the
background as as white noise I was. I was listening
to it, but I wasn't really paying attention to it.
And I heard this guy start talking and I was like,
all of a sudden, it just hit me, and I'm like,
I went into the living room and sure enough, while
(27:04):
he was talking, they were showing this video clip. Now,
what they were showing this undulating ball of plasma light
kind of shifting colors a little bit, not anything major,
wasn't going from drastically red to drastically blue, but those
colors were all they were all kind of in there,
(27:27):
kind of just undulating around. That was exactly what I saw.
But what I saw had a distinctive black point that
came out one end, and a distinctive black point that
came out the other end, and as I said before this,
it could not have been much more than one and
(27:48):
a half or two times the length of a crow.
And the reason I keep using crow is because where
I saw it, there used to be a very large
oak tree at the neighbor across the street, and about
a year and a half ago they took it down
(28:08):
because it was rotting. And those crows that used to
used to go to that tree all the time. Till
this day they still fly around the top of that
house looking for that damn tree. You know, they were
that used to it being there for you know, God knows.
I mean, I can remember being a little kid in
(28:30):
that tree being big back then. So it had been
around for fifty some years. So I think I know
what you're trying to describe when you when you say
this plasma. At what point did you did you come
to terms with being able to call it plasma? What
(28:54):
did you see or read that jarred your your perception
of it and said, yeah, that that's a pretty accurate
way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I think maybe it might have been like on a
show or you know, documentary of some sort, but you know,
it was around that same time that Chris Plittle's book
came out and I just, you know, I'm like, yes,
that's what, Yes, plasma, that's what it is. And you know,
(29:27):
because it really did just it described it perfectly.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well. You know those I guess they're a plasma ball.
You used to be able to buy them at Spencer's
Gifts stores. Yes, yeah, where you touch your fingers on
it and the electricity or go to it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was very similar to that, only yes, only instead
of only having the the electrical looking lines that would
go where you touch your fingers, it was like the
entire ball was filled with.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
That Yes, that's it. That is exactly that. That describes
it exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So you didn't notice like traditional solid color changes. It
wasn't going from red to blue to green to yellow.
It was just kind of all of it all mixed together.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It was kind of it was kind of purple and pink,
you know, with some blue.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know. It was just and it Yeah, it was
very it was very odd.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So let me ask you, after seeing this and and
you've got this this revelation that everything's going to be okay,
was there a continuance of that in your life?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
There was you know, it wasn't just in that moment.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I felt like, you know, I I really started making
progress with my grief. I was able to look at
things in a more positive light. I you know, there
were some things where I was, you know, there were
certain relationships in my life that were stuck at a
not so great place, and I was able to really
(31:20):
just push through all.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That, and.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It was just, you know it all it seems like
once that happened, I was able to really to break through,
you know, in a lot of different areas.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Of my life during those times. Did you continue to
draw inspiration from that sighting?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I think I did. I think I did in a
lot of ways. You know, I just.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And I think, you know, I think it goes along
with grief, especially when you're you know, you're having to
deal with other people's grief. You just feel kind of
lost and you feel like you don't matter. And you know,
I really felt like, you know, like I was saying before,
I felt like I was meant to see it. You know,
(32:18):
it was meant for me to see it, and you
know whatever that means. You know, I don't, you know,
I don't really have the answer, you know, I don't.
I don't really have any I mean, I can't write
a book about it, and I can't start a cult.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But you know, I know nothing to start a cold,
but you know, and.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
It is something that you know, I have, you know,
over the past I'd say probably six or eight months,
I finally started started sharing it with people, Like I
told my mom and told my daughter, I told my
husband and you know, a couple of friends and you know,
you know, I just said, you know, it's just it
(33:03):
was the weirdest thing, and you know, I think it's
kind of cool. You know, I think it's kind of
cool now, you know. At that time, you know, I
was just like, Okay, people were gonna think I'm crazy.
They're like, oh, she's crazy from grief, and you know,
going about their day.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah. So what do you think? What was it about
what you saw that captured your attention for two hours?
You said it wasn't moving, so it wasn't like you
were sitting there watching it do all kinds of acrobatic
aerial maneuvers and zigzagging around the sky. What do you
(33:40):
think it was about what you saw that that held
your attention for two hours? And I guess I'll follow
that up with were you surprised that it took you
two hours worth of sitting there and watching I mean,
did that time go by ordinarily fast? Extraordinarily slow?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And it was?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I think I spent a lot of time looking at it,
trying to make sense of it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It's like, you know, like I said, when I woke
up and there was a flash, I thought it was lightning,
and I'm like, is this lightning? This is not lightning.
Lightning doesn't look like this, you know, And so I'm
just like in my mind because I'm kind of a
sciencey person, and I you know, I kept thinking, what
could this be? You know, it's this, you know, it's
(34:36):
you know, I always just lightning in the clouds. It's like, no,
the clouds are moving. This is not moving, you know.
So I'm really just trying to you know, I was
trying to say, you know, there's got to be an
explanation for this, and you know, I sat there for
two hours and I have no.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Explanation, you know, and you know, it was it was
it was the most unusual thing that I've ever had
happen in my whole life.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Is is that typical for you? Can you get lost
in things that, you know, like moments of relaxation? Can
you Is that is that typical for you for to
be able to just relax and sit and stare at
something for that long. Wasn't that extraordinary?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
That extraordinary? That's that's what you know. I uh, I am,
I'm I'm one.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
My mind's always going, you know, my mind's always going
a million miles an hour. You know, what's going on?
What's I'm trying to think? You know, two steps ahead,
you know, And I think that's you know, I was.
I was a single mother for a very long time,
and you know, I had a daughter that played sports,
and I know I didn't have any family support close
close by, you know, so I was busy all the time.
(36:05):
I was always you know, on ago. Yeah, and you know,
even and I think, you know, that was that was
I was really struggling, you know at that time, because
you know, everything kind of fell apart, and you know,
so my mind was constantly racing. So you know, I
(36:27):
felt like, you know, for a while, when I was
watching it, I was trying to say, this isn't happening,
This can't be happening, or you know, there's got to
be an explanation, and you know, then finally I just
sort of, you know, dunk it down and said, okay, well,
let's just watch it until I can't watch it anymore.
(36:48):
You know, I just kind of gave up and said,
I don't know, I have no you know, I have
no no idea what this is.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Do you do you recall it all during the time
you were watching it? Do you recall ever, like having
clouds pass in front of it that would indicate that
it was a long long ways off.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Or well.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I could see like some of the lower clouds, you know,
because a lot of times, you know, especially at you
know that time of year, you know, the a lot
of times there'll be some fog or you know, some
mist or slow clouds.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
What time of year was this again.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It was in May, Okay, so you know, just because
of the difference in the water and air temperature, you know,
and and things like that. So I could see some
little wispy clouds, you know, or you know, some fall
rolling a little bit and then it would clear up,
you know, so you know, it wasn't moving, and that's
(37:56):
where you know, that was where I was like, oh,
it's got to be light it's no.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
It's it's not lightning. It's not moving. You know. I
could see clouds moving, but I couldn't see that moving.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Again again, not to belabor the point, but did anything
pass in front of it? And I guess the point
I'm getting at is, you know, and believe me, I'm
not I'm not trying to poke holes in your story
at all, you know. There I have. I have a
good buddy of mine who a couple of times now
has sent me a text message and says, dude, go
(38:32):
outside and look towards the airport. And I'll go out
and I'll look towards the airport and there's this very
bright light but it's venus. Yeah, you know so, but
when clouds move past it, it blocks it out. Yeah,
And it sounds like to me, and if I'm wrong,
(38:52):
please correct me that if you're not seeing that in
this two hour span that you were watching the object,
then to me, that indicates that this was much lower
in our atmosphere, in our sky, not not out in
the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Or be right, Yeah, exactly. And like I said, I'm
a science person, and you know, I like I like astronomy.
I like to go out and look at the stars
and this you know, it definitely wasn't a star, but uh,
you know it wasn't the boon and you know it wasn't.
Like I said, I I spent a lot of time
(39:31):
trying to trying to debunk it, well, like what am
I seeing here? And I couldn't come up with anything.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Interesting. So let me ask you and and please forgive me.
If this is too personal, and if you don't want
to just discuss it, then feel free to say pass.
But you know you indicated you were going through a
lot of things as far as your religious beliefs from
(40:13):
what you were at that point to what you were
after that. Did it change?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I think it did change.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I you know, I'm I've never been super religious, but
you know I I I've been. I think I've been,
you know, a spiritual person. But I'm open minded, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
So. But I think when that.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Happened, after that, and like I said, I just got
this like I'm supposed to see this, and I just felt,
you know, I felt important. You know, I'm I'm important
to something, you know, to something. I don't know what
that thing is. I don't I don't you know, I
don't know what label to put on it. But I
(41:12):
felt like I mattered. If that makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
What does your gut tell you that it was? I like,
deep down, deep down, strip away all the I'm a
sciencey gal, just boil it down. You had to have
had a couple of moments where you were like, shit,
(41:39):
that was what was it?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I felt like it was whatever it is, that is
the good things, all the good things, you know, I
felt like it was you know, it was it was
some sort of of reminder to me that you know, hey,
(42:05):
there's there's a.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Whole lot more. There's a whole lot more of things,
and there's a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
After reading Bloedsoe's account, and you know, in the book,
in any podcast that he appears on, he makes absolutely
no bones about his faith in Christianity m hm. And
and he does tend to and I'm not saying that
(42:37):
it's not warranted, but he does tend to lean towards
it being of God. Do you do you feel the.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Same, Well, I think I think I do in a
lot of ways. But you know, like like with everything,
you know, everybody, you know, everybody's perception is based on
you know, what they what they believe, what they feel,
what they know, you know, all their experiences, you know.
(43:17):
So I think if you know, if I were of
a certain philosophy, you know, I would have called it
one thing. If I were from another philosophy, I would
have called it something else. But you know, I I
think you know that probably that probably does you know,
(43:40):
you know, play into how he how he experienced it.
But so, you know I would, I would. I would
have to agree on that it was something you know,
it was something more divine, you know it was. It
was something very very positive.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Sure, And what has it done for you in the
year's past, In the year's sentence, I should say, does
it continue to shape how you view things?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
I think it does, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
You know, I think there were a lot of things,
you know, that that I was struggling with at that time,
you know, in addition to all the other things that
were happening, I didn't have a lot of I felt
like I didn't have a lot of clarity. And it
seemed like after that happened and I started really coming
out of it, I had a lot of clarity on
(44:46):
a lot of things that I never did before, and
I felt like it just my my life went in
a very positive direction.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Would you attribute a spiritual awakening to having seen that?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I think that's a fair description.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, you're not the only one.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
And I think that's that's what's that's what's nice about
this As a lot of people, I think a lot
of people can say the same thing, like, you know,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I don't think you know, I don't. I don't mean
to say this weird. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I'm any anything special, you know. I think there's a
lot of people who have seen things like this that
have you know that it's really changed how they viewed things,
and you know, in a good way.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I have to say that if you've listened to the
show for any length of time, excuse me, if you've
listened to the show for any length of time, you'll
know that I have had several experiences with a lot
of different things, and save but a few, the vast
(46:16):
majority of the experiences I've had, I would have to say,
have been remarkably positive and altering in the fact that
I think it's made me much more open minded to
(46:42):
just how significantly more great things are in this world
than than not.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yes, that that very much describes how I feel about
it too.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's an interesting it's an intro seen thing to be
woke up from a sleep by a flash. Didn't see
any more flashes for the next two hours. Yeah, you
sit there and are just totally captivated by this object.
(47:22):
Were there were there any mm hmm, Because everything you've
talked about now has been kind of on the on
the mental plane as far as what you what you
healed from what you got through. Was there any physiological
(47:42):
effects or healings or anything substantive that you can like
point to.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Well.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I one of the things that I thought was kind
of of kind of interesting in Chris Bleedsoe's book, he
had talked about autoimmune disease and I have I have lupus,
and you know, it's one of those diseases that kind
of you know, you have good times and then you
have flares and you can get really, really sick. But
(48:18):
I just thought it was really interesting. And you know,
I mean, autoimmune diseases are I think they're more diagnosed now,
but still, you know, they're not super common. And I
just thought that was really unusual that you know, he
had described he had described that also at that time,
(48:45):
I was really I was really struggling, you know, with
my body on top of all that other stress, you know,
the physical stress of being sick.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, in your heart of hearts. Do you think that
that that experienced you in it?
Speaker 2 (49:08):
I think that a lot of the you know, I
don't know if it was that specifically or just the
effect you know that it had on all these other
areas in my life. Like, you know, I didn't get
bogged down in things so much. You know, I was
able to stay positive more. I was able to say, Okay,
this is a bad day, but tomorrow is going to
(49:29):
be better, you know, or and I think I gave
myself a little more grace, you know, to say, you
know what, some days you're just not okay and it's okay,
you know, you just don't be okay to but you
got to get out of it tomorrow, you know, you
got to get moving. My health did get better, and
(49:50):
I don't know if it was anything you know, specific
to that, or it was just my my mindset.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Changed, brain can here yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, yeah, and you know a lot of you know,
anybody with an autoimmune disease can tell you that. You know,
if you don't stay positive, you may as well give up,
because you know you do have to just you know,
got to keep got to keep rolling.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Have you ever had any any dreams that reminded you
of of that event, not necessarily like reliving it or
re seeing it, but is there any have you ever
(50:44):
had any I guess what I'm getting at is, have
you ever had anything that you would consider a visit
into your mind two to kind of coroborate that that sighting?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I haven't, really, but something I do think that when
something does happen now you know where I feel like, Okay,
I got to kick myself in the pants, you know,
and get my head out of my ass, and you know,
just you know, do something. I do think about it
(51:35):
like I do think about it and say, okay, you
know now you know, just you gotta you gotta feel
the same way you did then, you know, just keep moving,
keep putting one foot in front of the other, and
just keep going.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
But I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
I don't think I've had anything, you know, as far
as the dream or anything like that, but you know,
I think it.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
You know, I do think about it still. I think
about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
It's amazing how things like that can affect a person
for the rest of their life. I mean, you know,
I talked recently with a gentleman who saw what he
believed to be three big Foot and to his best estimate,
(52:30):
maybe twenty to twenty four seconds that he witnessed these
about eight hundred yards away I'm sorry, about eight hundred
and fifty feet away, so a good distance literally changed
his life, changed the path that he was on, and
(52:58):
he's not looked back twenty seconds.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
That and and that's you know, I you know, you
read and you see all these different things, and you know,
there's a lot of people who have like a really
you know, and I know some people's experiences are very negative.
But then you know, even sometimes people that have a
negative experience, you know, they can still pull positive out
(53:28):
of it. But it's amazing, you know when something that
you don't even you're like, I don't even know if
I believe in this, you know, and then all of
a sudden, you know it's there in front of you
and you're like, okay, okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, it's a it's a strange thing. Do you do
you follow uf O culture?
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Now, yeah, there's you know, I listened to obviously your podcast,
and I listened to a lot of other a lot
of other podcasts.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
To wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you what do
you mean you listen to all you don't you don't
have any reason to listen to anybody else. Yeah, that's funny,
like when you when you hear about the things that
(54:31):
are going on within the government as far as disclosure
with the Senate committees and the congressional hearings, and the
tasks for task forces that are being created, and in
all this, you know, I have horrible time trying to
(54:55):
imagine or believe that our government hasn't been aware of
the things all along. But let's just say that they're
telling the truth and they didn't know about this until
twenty seventeen. Does any of of what you hear within
(55:22):
this disclosure community does it resonate with you? Or are
you left kind of being scratching your head saying that's
not really what I feel like I saw or I didn't.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, I you know, I I feel like there's a
lot of you know, there's like a there's like a
camp that says, you know, you know, it's all bad
and evil and they're you know, you know, they're gonna
invade us, kill us, you know what I mean. And
then I'm like, oh, you know, and then there's another
(55:59):
you know thing that says, no, everything is you know,
roses and sunshine and everything's okay, and it's like, you know,
there it seems like there's so many different variations on
what's going on, and you know, is it all related,
is it all not? You know, And then there's a
lot of people, you know, there's a lot of people
(56:20):
that just want to hype it up and you know,
want you to be afraid of things. You know, there's
a lot of that, and I kind of like, okay,
whatever or somebody that claims to have all the answers,
you know, and yes, exactly, I'm just like I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
You, I saw this and I still don't understand it.
Like I said, Like I said, I'm not writing a
book and I'm.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Not starting a re cult, so you know, like you know,
I don't think, you know, even if somebody does have
some information, and I don't think they have all the answers.
I don't think I don't think anybody has all the answers.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
I don't think so either. Well, Tricia, thank you so
much for reaching out to me. I was thrilled to
hear that you listened to the show, obviously, and I
appreciate you taking the time and sharing your story with
the listeners. Talk about a talk about an experience that
(57:33):
I guess you would say is ultimately benign. You just
sat there in wonderment and didn't have any negative things.
You weren't scared, you weren't running for the hills. You didn't.
I think sensationalism, even in some guests that come on podcasts.
(57:57):
I think that, and I said this before, even about
people who have assumed that they've had a Bigfoot experience.
You know, it may just be a noise in the woods,
or it may just be you know, a shadow or whatever.
But you know, sometimes those are to me the more
(58:17):
intriguing ones than somebody that comes on and says, I've
been investigating bigfoot for three months now and I've had
six sightings and you know, no, you didn't, No, you didn't.
You got guys out there that's been doing this for
forty and fifty years and they don't have that many sightings.
So no, I'm sorry, but you didn't. You know, you're
you're sensationalizing. I'm not taking away from the fact that
(58:38):
you may have had an experience, but let that experience
be enough. Yeah, yeah, you know you don't. You're not
coming on here telling me you saw this ball of
plasma and then now all of a sudden, you know
everything that happens after we die, you know, yeah, you
(59:01):
know you didn't get all the answers to everything in
the world. So and to me, that's that's a much
more a much more interesting kind of account. I think
it lets your mind have to do some work and
think about, you know, just what could it have been.
(59:21):
And it's interesting. Well, I'm glad that you I'm glad
that you've found Chris Bledsoe's book.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I'm so am I it was able to, you know,
to at least let me know that other people you
know have had something similar happen.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
Again, thank you so much. I appreciate you keep listening.
I've got more great stuff coming and you take care.
If you have any more sightings, please make sure to
let us know.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
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I've got a great guest lined up for you tonight.
Her name is Tricia, and Tricia witnessed a strange light
that captured her attention for a good while. Now, the
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thing that I think is unique about this experience is
where she saw it, Cape fear River. Desiring about it
should So if you're ready, let's get into this. If
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you will, please give a warm uncomfortable welcome to Tricia. Tricia,
Welcome to Uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So this happened to me in May of two thousand
and nine. At the time, we were running a house
on the beach on the west end of Oak Island
in North Carolina. It's near Wilmington. I woke up in
the night and I saw something flash outside. I was
(02:54):
half asleep, so I didn't really pay a lot of attention,
and I just thought it was late thing. So I
went in and went to the bathroom and I came
back out and I saw what I can only describe
as a plasma in the clouds over the ocean, and
(03:18):
it seemed to be in a shape of a ball
that I couldn't really see the edges of it, and
it was sort of in the clouds, and so I
sat down and looked, you know, just didn't know what
I was looking at. It was sort of a purple
and like a hot pink, and I just kept watching it.
(03:42):
It didn't move, It just stayed outside of the window
over the ocean, and I watched it for probably a
couple of hours, and then I fell asleep. I wasn't afraid,
and I actually had an odd sense of peace. So
(04:06):
I woke up in the learning and I didn't tell
anybody what happened. I just didn't really have the words
to describe it. It wasn't you know, I'm like, it
didn't look like the UFO. You know, I grew up
in the seventies and eighties and Close Encounters.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Was a UFO, and this was not your typical UFO.
There were no you know, beings or anything. It was
just this plasma.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And so I felt, like I said, I felt a
really odd sense of peace, and I felt like it
was important and meant for me to see it, if
that makes any sense. But after that, you know, I
just I didn't know what to tell anybody, and it's
(05:03):
just a weird it's a weird thing. So, and to
give a little bit of a backstory, I in the
year previous to that, we had lost several members of
my family, including my dad, and so I was struggling
with complex grief. My daughter was struggling. I was trying
(05:26):
to look after my mom, you know, she was everything.
Everything just sort of fell apart. And yeah, it was.
It was a really rough time. And so I had
really been struggling, and you know, leading up to this,
you know, to being there, I just kept thinking, you know,
(05:48):
something's got to give, you know, I've got to I've
got to figure out how to deal with this. So
after this happened, like I said, I had this, you know,
this very disdain feeling of peace, like it was okay,
And after that happened, I really.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I know you've listened to the show, and I know
you probably know that I interrupt I get chastised for
it repeatedly. But before you get too much further into this,
there's there's a couple of things that that I wanted
to touch on. You keep saying that, you know, there
(06:30):
was kind of a peaceful peacefulness to to the sighting
first of all, when you saw it and and it
it grabbed your attention. I had an experience about a
year ago where it was broad daylight. I was looking
(06:52):
outside my living room window and I saw something that
was about I've described it as being maybe one and
a half times the length of a crow, but you
(07:16):
didn't see any wings. It was it was it had
a kind of a pointy protuberance out the front, and
it kind of had a pointy proturberance out the back.
Very narrow, but about one and a half times the
size of a big crow. But at center mass there
was this undulating fall of plasma and I just saw
(07:45):
it briefly as it went a cross between two trees,
one tree in one yard, one tree in the other yard.
So I mean I got, you know, maybe maybe a
second and a half or two seconds of it to
see it. But this thing was not big. It was
not huge. When you when you looked out over the
ocean and you saw this thing, did you did you
(08:08):
get any sense of size or possibly distance from you.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I couldn't really tell you the distance because it was
over the ocean, you know, so I didn't have anything
to you know, I couldn't tell where it was relative
to anything else, but it didn't really look to be
very big.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If I had to guess, I would say maybe ten feet.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, ten foot Diama, Yes, okay. And when you when
you talk about this, this piece, I think you even
said you got this feeling that it was it was okay.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Can you can you kind of dive into that a
little bit more? Yeah? Is it is it like a
feeling that you were being told that everything that you
were going through was okay, or that the fact that
it itself was there was no biggie, it was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I guess maybe a little bit of both. I felt
I did feel, you know, like like it like something
you know about it was making me think, Okay, everything's
going to be okay. You got this, you know it's
it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And like I said, up until that point, you know,
I hadn't been able to feel that way for for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah. Well, that's a lot to go through.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was you know, it was hell.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It was help going through all that, you know, and
then everybody around you, you know, it's dealing with with
grief as well, and so you know, and I'm I'm
sort of a take charge kind of gal, and so
you know, I'm I'm trying to take care of everybody
else first, and then you know, trying to figure out
how I can how I can make things better better
for me too, And you know, I was, I was
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really struggling.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, So let's let's move on with you know,
where where did this take you? Then?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I didn't tell anybody in my whole family. I
you know, I just didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know that that kind of thing. You know, it's
it's been in you know, in the news, and you know,
in the.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
UFO circle, that kind of experience has really only come
forward in the last few years. And the very first
time I heard anything about it was just a few
years ago. I read a lot. So I was reading
(11:10):
Chris Bledsoe's book UFO of God, and I didn't really
I mean, you know, I didn't know specifics what it
was about or anything. And when I read it and
I'm like, oh, that's not far from where that happened
where I saw that. It's not far at all, and
I'm like, that is really weird. And so I started
(11:31):
reading more into the book and I think I said,
oh shit, about eighty times. It was you know, his
experience and his I guess perception of it was was
quite a bit different. Plus he had a lot of ongoing,
you know, ongoing experiences that he described in the book,
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and mine was just a it was a one time.
I never saw anything like that before, you know, or since.
And you know, so, you know, I don't really have
any answers to any of it other than the way
it made me feel, you know that it was like,
(12:12):
you know, it was very positive, and you know he
described in the book, you know, how he felt it was.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It was very you know, it was a positive experience.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And you know, I think that's where you know, the
similarities are, you know, with with my experience and his
and being in the same geographical area, right.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So, like as best you can, how how close was
your sighting in relation to where he he claimed his I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think if if I'm thinking of where he described
that that first, it's probably only maybe twenty miles if that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, So he had his experience in two thousand and seven,
you had years in two thousand and nine, yes, and
then twenty twenty two, I believe is when the book
was published.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I think that's right. I know it was just a
couple of years ago when I read it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So you pick this up just by chance, or you yeah,
just you have some interest in UFOs or.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I have always had an interest.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
You know, my mom when I was when I was
a kid back in the seventies, she had an experience herself,
nothing like that. Hers was different. And I've always had
an interest, but you know, I never thought i'd actually
see something, but I you know, I've always had an
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interest in those kinds of things. And like I said,
I grew up in the seventies and eighties, and you know,
Closed Encounters was thing.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It was. It's funny because this past summer, I believe
it was in July, Close Encounters of the Third Kind
got re released at a theater that is in my hometown,
and my daughter was in town. So I said, hey,
let's because it had been since I don't even know
(14:25):
what year that came out, nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty
something like that, I said, why don't you go with
your old manning, let's go see this movie. I haven't
seen it in the theaters for, you know, all these years.
And she knows my son knows that. You know, I
delve into this stuff a lot, and they grew up
with me always having something about UFOs or Bigfoot on
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the TV or all of our Steen services were you know,
just chuck full of it. But she went, I think
she went pretty much to pacify me. But when we
walked out of there, she just kind of looked at
me and she's like, that was an incredible movie. She said,
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that was you know that even though you could tell that,
you know, it was dated because of the cars and
the in the clothes and the haircuts and all that,
she's like, it really held up pretty well. And she's like,
I had no idea this movie was as good as
what it was.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, that was just phenomenal when it came out. You know,
I remember being a little kid and seeing it and thinking,
oh my gosh, this is great.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, so do you mind? Do you mind going into
your mom's account? And I guess the reason I bring
it up is one, obviously I'm interested, and I think
the listeners will be interested as well. But there there
does tend to be a a tendency of a hattern
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with family members having experiences.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, And it was funny because Both my mom and
her brother also had had a sighting at separate times,
but my mom hers was I'd say hers was probably
in the in the late seventies. She was coming home
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from work and she saw saw something large in the
sky and it was over top of her, and then
at at some point it went in front of her,
so it was, you know, it was pacing her, but
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it was in front of her, and then it just
shot off. And she said, it's scary to death when
it happened, you know, And she came home and told
my dad, you know, and uh, and so.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You know that's in my mind, you know, all those years,
that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's what I thought of you A fulciting was, you know,
That's that's what I thought it was. And you know,
so when this happened to me, I had no frame
of reference to even describe it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Was she ever able to describe to you what she saw?
I mean, shape wise? Lights? No lights?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
She said it did have lights, and she said it
was very large, but she didn't she couldn't describe as
shape really, just that you know, it went in front
of her and then it disappeared like it just shot off.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Did she ever say what, like, what drew her attention
to it to begin with?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Uh, she didn't, she didn't. She didn't say, I don't
know if it you know, if she noticed it, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Out the side. At first, she didn't really say.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Interesting, and then you said her.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Brother, Yeah, her brother. It was around the same time.
He was in the car with his wife at the time,
and they were on a country road and he came
up over a hill and there was one hovering over
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the road in front of them, and so he just
slammed on the brakes and it, you know, he just
they just had to kind of watching it for a minute,
and the same thing, it.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Just took off and disappeared and it was gone.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Was this around the same time? Is your mom's it was?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
It was close to the same time.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Interesting. I wonder if there's anything to that.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I always wondered too.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So you drew you drew several correlations to Chris Bledsoe's
experience and in your experience and even those yours. Was
it was visual and at a at a good distance.
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What are we looking at here? Been fifteen sixteen years?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, it's been sixteen years.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's it's stayed with you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
It has and you know, even though I didn't tell
anybody at the time, I thought about it all the time.
And and it's it's really funny because we go to
that into the island all the time, and I think
about it. You know, I still think about it, like frequently,
(20:07):
and I'm always you know, looking over that way to see,
you know, see if I see anything, you know. But
but like I said, it was the best way I
can describe it is I needed something to remind me
(20:28):
that there was there's something more to life than death
and suffering. And I came away with a sense of
peace and that everything was going to be okay and
I was going to work through this, and so you
know that. And I think that's why it was so significant,
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was because of those feelings I had about it.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Do you think do you think that it and when
I say it, I mean the essence of whatever it
was was interacting with you to provide that or do
you think just the witnessing of something so unusual, so
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not something that some many people get to see. Do
you think that that could have been the impetus behind
kind of shaking you out of that Everything's terrible, Everything's horrible,
everything's going wrong. Did it give you? Was it? Was
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it something you felt interacted with you and helped you
get through that, or was it just the fact that
you saw something that was wondrous and unusual that made
you snap out of it and and say, oh, there
there's more to there's more to life than than all this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I and you know, it's it's another one of those
things that was a feeling. I felt like I was
meant to see it, and I don't really I don't
really know why I think that, and you know that,
you know, and that's that's where I went, you know,
round and around with it for years, you know, that
same thing. You know, It's like, oh, was I just
(22:30):
in that love of a place where I was just
looking for something, you know, to to make me remember
or you know.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Did it? Did it?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Was there some sort of you know exchange there? You know,
there there were no you know, like some people you
hear them described there were words in my head or
there was just there was nothing like that. It was
just you know, it was just very positive and you
know it really you know, and you know, like I
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said it, I thought about it every day for a
long time, and I just kept thinking, you know, I
woke up in the middle of the night and that's
what I see. Yeah, And and and like I said,
I it wasn't it wasn't fleeting. I sat and watched
it for about two hours I think is approximately how long,
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and I fell I actually fell asleep watching it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's that's an incredibly long sustained Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yes, you know in your mind, you know, you're you're thinking, oh,
you know, I dreamed it or I did. It's like, no,
it definitely wasn't a dream. And and like I said,
when I first woke up, I saw a flash outside,
but I thought it was lightning, and so I just,
you know, I'm half asleep and go in and and
then as I'm walking back to my side of the bed,
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I looked.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Out and I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And I just I just sat and watched it. And
like I said, it stayed in that same area.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It didn't move.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay, which is a great point. I'm glad you said that,
because at any point during the nearly two hours that
you did watch this, did it exhibit any kind of
did it exhibit any additional flashes where there were there
(24:34):
are bright strobes that came off this thing that would
remind you that that's the flash that woke me up
this and it's done it again, and it did it
again and or nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, nothing like that, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Like like that first that first flash that I noticed.
After that it was sort of sort of almost like
the pulsating, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Like it was just it was just.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
A very like I said, I've never seen anything like it.
And you know, I've only ever heard anybody else describe
things like that over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So when you said it was pulsating, I think that
I know what you're meaning, because that was a very
hard thing for me to describe when trying to tell
some of my friends about this thing that I had seen, Yeah,
about a year ago. It wasn't until I was watching
(25:37):
the documentary and I I had seen it. When I
saw it, I knew I had seen it before, and
it was it was in a documentary or a show
about UFOs or I knew that I had seen a
very good depiction of what I saw at the center
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mass of this object. And it was several months and
I have I have a smart TV and when when
you connect to it's a Samsung and it's loaded with
some streaming channels that you don't have to pay for,
(26:21):
and in the in the three thousands challenge channels, it's
like three thy fifty or something like that, and pretty
much Ancient Aliens is on all the time, and there's
different alien shows and stuff like that, and I just
(26:43):
happened to turn one on. It was a It was
a documentary. I knew I had seen it a long
time ago, but I just had it on in the
background as as white noise I was. I was listening
to it, but I wasn't really paying attention to it.
And I heard this guy start talking and I was like,
all of a sudden, it just hit me, and I'm like,
I went into the living room and sure enough, while
(27:04):
he was talking, they were showing this video clip. Now,
what they were showing this undulating ball of plasma light
kind of shifting colors a little bit, not anything major,
wasn't going from drastically red to drastically blue, but those
colors were all they were all kind of in there,
(27:27):
kind of just undulating around. That was exactly what I saw.
But what I saw had a distinctive black point that
came out one end, and a distinctive black point that
came out the other end, and as I said before this,
it could not have been much more than one and
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a half or two times the length of a crow.
And the reason I keep using crow is because where
I saw it, there used to be a very large
oak tree at the neighbor across the street, and about
a year and a half ago they took it down
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because it was rotting. And those crows that used to
used to go to that tree all the time. Till
this day they still fly around the top of that
house looking for that damn tree. You know, they were
that used to it being there for you know, God knows.
I mean, I can remember being a little kid in
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that tree being big back then. So it had been
around for fifty some years. So I think I know
what you're trying to describe when you when you say
this plasma. At what point did you did you come
to terms with being able to call it plasma? What
(28:54):
did you see or read that jarred your your perception
of it and said, yeah, that that's a pretty accurate
way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I think maybe it might have been like on a
show or you know, documentary of some sort, but you know,
it was around that same time that Chris Plittle's book
came out and I just, you know, I'm like, yes,
that's what, Yes, plasma, that's what it is. And you know,
(29:27):
because it really did just it described it perfectly.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well. You know those I guess they're a plasma ball.
You used to be able to buy them at Spencer's
Gifts stores. Yes, yeah, where you touch your fingers on
it and the electricity or go to it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was very similar to that, only yes, only instead
of only having the the electrical looking lines that would
go where you touch your fingers, it was like the
entire ball was filled with.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
That Yes, that's it. That is exactly that. That describes
it exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So you didn't notice like traditional solid color changes. It
wasn't going from red to blue to green to yellow.
It was just kind of all of it all mixed together.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It was kind of it was kind of purple and pink,
you know, with some blue.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know. It was just and it Yeah, it was
very it was very odd.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So let me ask you, after seeing this and and
you've got this this revelation that everything's going to be okay,
was there a continuance of that in your life?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
There was you know, it wasn't just in that moment.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I felt like, you know, I I really started making
progress with my grief. I was able to look at
things in a more positive light. I you know, there
were some things where I was, you know, there were
certain relationships in my life that were stuck at a
not so great place, and I was able to really
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just push through all.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That, and.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It was just, you know it all it seems like
once that happened, I was able to really to break through,
you know, in a lot of different areas.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Of my life during those times. Did you continue to
draw inspiration from that sighting?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I think I did. I think I did in a
lot of ways. You know, I just.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And I think, you know, I think it goes along
with grief, especially when you're you know, you're having to
deal with other people's grief. You just feel kind of
lost and you feel like you don't matter. And you know,
I really felt like, you know, like I was saying before,
I felt like I was meant to see it. You know,
(32:18):
it was meant for me to see it, and you
know whatever that means. You know, I don't, you know,
I don't really have the answer, you know, I don't.
I don't really have any I mean, I can't write
a book about it, and I can't start a cult.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But you know, I know nothing to start a cold,
but you know, and.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
It is something that you know, I have, you know,
over the past I'd say probably six or eight months,
I finally started started sharing it with people, Like I
told my mom and told my daughter, I told my
husband and you know, a couple of friends and you know,
you know, I just said, you know, it's just it
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was the weirdest thing, and you know, I think it's
kind of cool. You know, I think it's kind of
cool now, you know. At that time, you know, I
was just like, Okay, people were gonna think I'm crazy.
They're like, oh, she's crazy from grief, and you know,
going about their day.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah. So what do you think? What was it about
what you saw that captured your attention for two hours?
You said it wasn't moving, so it wasn't like you
were sitting there watching it do all kinds of acrobatic
aerial maneuvers and zigzagging around the sky. What do you
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think it was about what you saw that that held
your attention for two hours? And I guess I'll follow
that up with were you surprised that it took you
two hours worth of sitting there and watching I mean,
did that time go by ordinarily fast? Extraordinarily slow?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And it was?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I think I spent a lot of time looking at it,
trying to make sense of it.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It's like, you know, like I said, when I woke
up and there was a flash, I thought it was lightning,
and I'm like, is this lightning? This is not lightning.
Lightning doesn't look like this, you know, And so I'm
just like in my mind because I'm kind of a
sciencey person, and I you know, I kept thinking, what
could this be? You know, it's this, you know, it's
(34:36):
you know, I always just lightning in the clouds. It's like, no,
the clouds are moving. This is not moving, you know.
So I'm really just trying to you know, I was
trying to say, you know, there's got to be an
explanation for this, and you know, I sat there for
two hours and I have no.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Explanation, you know, and you know, it was it was
it was the most unusual thing that I've ever had
happen in my whole life.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Is is that typical for you? Can you get lost
in things that, you know, like moments of relaxation? Can
you Is that is that typical for you for to
be able to just relax and sit and stare at
something for that long. Wasn't that extraordinary?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
That extraordinary? That's that's what you know. I uh, I am,
I'm I'm one.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
My mind's always going, you know, my mind's always going
a million miles an hour. You know, what's going on?
What's I'm trying to think? You know, two steps ahead,
you know, And I think that's you know, I was.
I was a single mother for a very long time,
and you know, I had a daughter that played sports,
and I know I didn't have any family support close
close by, you know, so I was busy all the time.
(36:05):
I was always you know, on ago. Yeah, and you know,
even and I think, you know, that was that was
I was really struggling, you know at that time, because
you know, everything kind of fell apart, and you know,
so my mind was constantly racing. So you know, I
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felt like, you know, for a while, when I was
watching it, I was trying to say, this isn't happening,
This can't be happening, or you know, there's got to
be an explanation, and you know, then finally I just
sort of, you know, dunk it down and said, okay, well,
let's just watch it until I can't watch it anymore.
(36:48):
You know, I just kind of gave up and said,
I don't know, I have no you know, I have
no no idea what this is.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Do you do you recall it all during the time
you were watching it? Do you recall ever, like having
clouds pass in front of it that would indicate that
it was a long long ways off.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Or well.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I could see like some of the lower clouds, you know,
because a lot of times, you know, especially at you
know that time of year, you know, the a lot
of times there'll be some fog or you know, some
mist or slow clouds.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
What time of year was this again.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It was in May, Okay, so you know, just because
of the difference in the water and air temperature, you know,
and and things like that. So I could see some
little wispy clouds, you know, or you know, some fall
rolling a little bit and then it would clear up,
you know, so you know, it wasn't moving, and that's
(37:56):
where you know, that was where I was like, oh,
it's got to be light it's no.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
It's it's not lightning. It's not moving. You know. I
could see clouds moving, but I couldn't see that moving.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Again again, not to belabor the point, but did anything
pass in front of it? And I guess the point
I'm getting at is, you know, and believe me, I'm
not I'm not trying to poke holes in your story
at all, you know. There I have. I have a
good buddy of mine who a couple of times now
has sent me a text message and says, dude, go
(38:32):
outside and look towards the airport. And I'll go out
and I'll look towards the airport and there's this very
bright light but it's venus. Yeah, you know so, but
when clouds move past it, it blocks it out. Yeah,
And it sounds like to me, and if I'm wrong,
(38:52):
please correct me that if you're not seeing that in
this two hour span that you were watching the object,
then to me, that indicates that this was much lower
in our atmosphere, in our sky, not not out in
the atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Or be right, Yeah, exactly. And like I said, I'm
a science person, and you know, I like I like astronomy.
I like to go out and look at the stars
and this you know, it definitely wasn't a star, but uh,
you know it wasn't the boon and you know it wasn't.
Like I said, I I spent a lot of time
(39:31):
trying to trying to debunk it, well, like what am
I seeing here? And I couldn't come up with anything.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Interesting. So let me ask you and and please forgive me.
If this is too personal, and if you don't want
to just discuss it, then feel free to say pass.
But you know you indicated you were going through a
lot of things as far as your religious beliefs from
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what you were at that point to what you were
after that. Did it change?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I think it did change.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I you know, I'm I've never been super religious, but
you know I I I've been. I think I've been,
you know, a spiritual person. But I'm open minded, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
So. But I think when that.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Happened, after that, and like I said, I just got
this like I'm supposed to see this, and I just felt,
you know, I felt important. You know, I'm I'm important
to something, you know, to something. I don't know what
that thing is. I don't I don't you know, I
don't know what label to put on it. But I
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felt like I mattered. If that makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
What does your gut tell you that it was? I like,
deep down, deep down, strip away all the I'm a
sciencey gal, just boil it down. You had to have
had a couple of moments where you were like, shit,
(41:39):
that was what was it?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I felt like it was whatever it is, that is
the good things, all the good things, you know, I
felt like it was you know, it was it was
some sort of of reminder to me that you know, hey,
(42:05):
there's there's a.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Whole lot more. There's a whole lot more of things,
and there's a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
After reading Bloedsoe's account, and you know, in the book,
in any podcast that he appears on, he makes absolutely
no bones about his faith in Christianity m hm. And
and he does tend to and I'm not saying that
(42:37):
it's not warranted, but he does tend to lean towards
it being of God. Do you do you feel the.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Same, Well, I think I think I do in a
lot of ways. But you know, like like with everything,
you know, everybody, you know, everybody's perception is based on
you know, what they what they believe, what they feel,
what they know, you know, all their experiences, you know.
(43:17):
So I think if you know, if I were of
a certain philosophy, you know, I would have called it
one thing. If I were from another philosophy, I would
have called it something else. But you know, I I
think you know that probably that probably does you know,
(43:40):
you know, play into how he how he experienced it.
But so, you know I would, I would. I would
have to agree on that it was something you know,
it was something more divine, you know it was. It
was something very very positive.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Sure, And what has it done for you in the
year's past, In the year's sentence, I should say, does
it continue to shape how you view things?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
I think it does, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
You know, I think there were a lot of things,
you know, that that I was struggling with at that time,
you know, in addition to all the other things that
were happening, I didn't have a lot of I felt
like I didn't have a lot of clarity. And it
seemed like after that happened and I started really coming
out of it, I had a lot of clarity on
(44:46):
a lot of things that I never did before, and
I felt like it just my my life went in
a very positive direction.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Would you attribute a spiritual awakening to having seen that?
Speaker 3 (45:05):
I think that's a fair description.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, you're not the only one.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
And I think that's that's what's that's what's nice about
this As a lot of people, I think a lot
of people can say the same thing, like, you know,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I don't think you know, I don't. I don't mean
to say this weird. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I'm any anything special, you know. I think there's a
lot of people who have seen things like this that
have you know that it's really changed how they viewed things,
and you know, in a good way.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I have to say that if you've listened to the
show for any length of time, excuse me, if you've
listened to the show for any length of time, you'll
know that I have had several experiences with a lot
of different things, and save but a few, the vast
(46:16):
majority of the experiences I've had, I would have to say,
have been remarkably positive and altering in the fact that
I think it's made me much more open minded to
(46:42):
just how significantly more great things are in this world
than than not.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yes, that that very much describes how I feel about
it too.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
It's an interesting it's an intro seen thing to be
woke up from a sleep by a flash. Didn't see
any more flashes for the next two hours. Yeah, you
sit there and are just totally captivated by this object.
(47:22):
Were there were there any mm hmm, Because everything you've
talked about now has been kind of on the on
the mental plane as far as what you what you
healed from what you got through. Was there any physiological
(47:42):
effects or healings or anything substantive that you can like
point to.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Well.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I one of the things that I thought was kind
of of kind of interesting in Chris Bleedsoe's book, he
had talked about autoimmune disease and I have I have lupus,
and you know, it's one of those diseases that kind
of you know, you have good times and then you
have flares and you can get really, really sick. But
(48:18):
I just thought it was really interesting. And you know,
I mean, autoimmune diseases are I think they're more diagnosed now,
but still, you know, they're not super common. And I
just thought that was really unusual that you know, he
had described he had described that also at that time,
(48:45):
I was really I was really struggling, you know, with
my body on top of all that other stress, you know,
the physical stress of being sick.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, in your heart of hearts. Do you think that
that that experienced you in it?
Speaker 2 (49:08):
I think that a lot of the you know, I
don't know if it was that specifically or just the
effect you know that it had on all these other
areas in my life. Like, you know, I didn't get
bogged down in things so much. You know, I was
able to stay positive more. I was able to say, Okay,
this is a bad day, but tomorrow is going to
(49:29):
be better, you know, or and I think I gave
myself a little more grace, you know, to say, you
know what, some days you're just not okay and it's okay,
you know, you just don't be okay to but you
got to get out of it tomorrow, you know, you
got to get moving. My health did get better, and
(49:50):
I don't know if it was anything you know, specific
to that, or it was just my my mindset.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Changed, brain can here yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, yeah, and you know a lot of you know,
anybody with an autoimmune disease can tell you that. You know,
if you don't stay positive, you may as well give up,
because you know you do have to just you know,
got to keep got to keep rolling.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
Have you ever had any any dreams that reminded you
of of that event, not necessarily like reliving it or
re seeing it, but is there any have you ever
(50:44):
had any I guess what I'm getting at is, have
you ever had anything that you would consider a visit
into your mind two to kind of coroborate that that sighting?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I haven't, really, but something I do think that when
something does happen now you know where I feel like, Okay,
I got to kick myself in the pants, you know,
and get my head out of my ass, and you know,
just you know, do something. I do think about it
(51:35):
like I do think about it and say, okay, you
know now you know, just you gotta you gotta feel
the same way you did then, you know, just keep moving,
keep putting one foot in front of the other, and
just keep going.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
But I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
I don't think I've had anything, you know, as far
as the dream or anything like that, but you know,
I think it.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
You know, I do think about it still. I think
about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
It's amazing how things like that can affect a person
for the rest of their life. I mean, you know,
I talked recently with a gentleman who saw what he
believed to be three big Foot and to his best estimate,
(52:30):
maybe twenty to twenty four seconds that he witnessed these
about eight hundred yards away I'm sorry, about eight hundred
and fifty feet away, so a good distance literally changed
his life, changed the path that he was on, and
(52:58):
he's not looked back twenty seconds.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
That and and that's you know, I you know, you
read and you see all these different things, and you know,
there's a lot of people who have like a really
you know, and I know some people's experiences are very negative.
But then you know, even sometimes people that have a
negative experience, you know, they can still pull positive out
(53:28):
of it. But it's amazing, you know when something that
you don't even you're like, I don't even know if
I believe in this, you know, and then all of
a sudden, you know it's there in front of you
and you're like, okay, okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, it's a it's a strange thing. Do you do
you follow uf O culture?
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Now, yeah, there's you know, I listened to obviously your podcast,
and I listened to a lot of other a lot
of other podcasts.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
To wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you what do
you mean you listen to all you don't you don't
have any reason to listen to anybody else. Yeah, that's funny,
like when you when you hear about the things that
(54:31):
are going on within the government as far as disclosure
with the Senate committees and the congressional hearings, and the
tasks for task forces that are being created, and in
all this, you know, I have horrible time trying to
(54:55):
imagine or believe that our government hasn't been aware of
the things all along. But let's just say that they're
telling the truth and they didn't know about this until
twenty seventeen. Does any of of what you hear within
(55:22):
this disclosure community does it resonate with you? Or are
you left kind of being scratching your head saying that's
not really what I feel like I saw or I didn't.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, I you know, I I feel like there's a
lot of you know, there's like a there's like a
camp that says, you know, you know, it's all bad
and evil and they're you know, you know, they're gonna
invade us, kill us, you know what I mean. And
then I'm like, oh, you know, and then there's another
(55:59):
you know thing that says, no, everything is you know,
roses and sunshine and everything's okay, and it's like, you know,
there it seems like there's so many different variations on
what's going on, and you know, is it all related,
is it all not? You know, And then there's a
lot of people, you know, there's a lot of people
(56:20):
that just want to hype it up and you know,
want you to be afraid of things. You know, there's
a lot of that, and I kind of like, okay,
whatever or somebody that claims to have all the answers,
you know, and yes, exactly, I'm just like I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
You, I saw this and I still don't understand it.
Like I said, Like I said, I'm not writing a
book and I'm.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Not starting a re cult, so you know, like you know,
I don't think, you know, even if somebody does have
some information, and I don't think they have all the answers.
I don't think I don't think anybody has all the answers.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
I don't think so either. Well, Tricia, thank you so
much for reaching out to me. I was thrilled to
hear that you listened to the show, obviously, and I
appreciate you taking the time and sharing your story with
the listeners. Talk about a talk about an experience that
(57:33):
I guess you would say is ultimately benign. You just
sat there in wonderment and didn't have any negative things.
You weren't scared, you weren't running for the hills. You didn't.
I think sensationalism, even in some guests that come on podcasts.
(57:57):
I think that, and I said this before, even about
people who have assumed that they've had a Bigfoot experience.
You know, it may just be a noise in the woods,
or it may just be you know, a shadow or whatever.
But you know, sometimes those are to me the more
(58:17):
intriguing ones than somebody that comes on and says, I've
been investigating bigfoot for three months now and I've had
six sightings and you know, no, you didn't, No, you didn't.
You got guys out there that's been doing this for
forty and fifty years and they don't have that many sightings.
So no, I'm sorry, but you didn't. You know, you're
you're sensationalizing. I'm not taking away from the fact that
(58:38):
you may have had an experience, but let that experience
be enough. Yeah, yeah, you know you don't. You're not
coming on here telling me you saw this ball of
plasma and then now all of a sudden, you know
everything that happens after we die, you know, yeah, you
(59:01):
know you didn't get all the answers to everything in
the world. So and to me, that's that's a much
more a much more interesting kind of account. I think
it lets your mind have to do some work and
think about, you know, just what could it have been.
(59:21):
And it's interesting. Well, I'm glad that you I'm glad
that you've found Chris Bledsoe's book.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I'm so am I it was able to, you know,
to at least let me know that other people you
know have had something similar happen.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
Again, thank you so much. I appreciate you keep listening.
I've got more great stuff coming and you take care.
If you have any more sightings, please make sure to
let us know.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
I will Henry
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