August 8, 2024 • 31 mins
Are you and your spouse feeling isolated in your entrepreneurial journey? In this week's episode, Bekah & Kevin explore the crucial role of community in fueling success for entrepreneurial couples.
Drawing from their experiences, they discuss:
* The concept of social capital and its impact on business growth strategies for active community engagement
* The importance of seeking diverse perspectives
* Building a support system beyond your spouse
* The value of stepping out of your comfort zone
Kevin and Bekah offer practical advice on creating and nurturing a supportive network that can propel both your business and your relationship forward. They share personal anecdotes about the power of mentorship, mastermind groups, and intentional relationship-building.
Whether you're just starting out or looking to expand your existing network, this episode provides actionable steps to build a community that supports your entrepreneurial dreams and strengthens your partnership. Join us for a conversation that will inspire you to cultivate meaningful connections and harness the power of community in your journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey there, freedom Fighters.
Ever feel like you're on anisland, trying to build your
business and your marriage atthe same time?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, we've got news for you.
It doesn't have to be that way.
Today, we're diving into theincredible power of community in
fueling your journey asentrepreneurial couples.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Speaking of maintaining our entrepreneurial
spirit, I want to take a momentto share something that's been
instrumental in my own journeytowards uncommon freedom.
My book, the Seven Disciplinesof Uncommon Freedom, dives deep
into how we can break free fromthe currents that often hold us
back in life and business.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh, I love the analogy that you use in the book
about always rowing upstream.
Can you share a little bitabout that with our listeners?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Absolutely.
It's actually one of myfavorite things to talk about.
I probably think about theconcept every single day.
I discuss it with our kidsevery single day, have
conversations with people thatwe work with and coach every
single day and use this upstreamanalogy.
And the really cool thing is alot of the people that I
interact with have started touse this concept as they're
(01:09):
talking with me, and so I knowit's really catching some steam.
You know, in life, andespecially in entrepreneurship,
we're often surrounded by what Icall lazy rivers.
We're frequently in them andit's so easy to just float along
, letting circumstances dictatewhere we end up.
Right, when you're in a lazyriver, you just go.
Actually, you know, even ifit's not a lazy river swimming
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pool style, it might be theplace where you go rafting.
You know in a river, you knowthat's an outdoor type of river,
but you don't get to pick whereyou end up.
Ultimately, the current isgoing to carry you and the
direction that the river runs isgoing to dictate where you go.
But the reality is true freedomthe uncommon kind that we talk
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about requires us to always rowupstream.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, I don't know who actually came up with
the saying, but it was that ourgravitational pull is to
mediocrity, not to excellence,and I feel like nothing could be
more true than in our currentsociety, as we kind of sense
that happening in our worldright now and so we're noticing
it and I think that's reallypowerful.
So that resonates with ourtopic today about self-care for
entrepreneurs.
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It's not always the easy path,is it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, the reality is the good path is always going to
be the hard path.
You know, our good friend, johnMaxwell, who I just spent over
a week with in Greece prettyamazing talks about the fact
that it's uphill.
You know you're going the rightdirection when you're going
uphill.
You know you're going the rightdirection when you're rowing
upstream.
And what I like about theupstream analogy is you know it
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takes no effort to go downstream.
You know when you're in thatlazy river, to go with the
current it takes no effort.
And there's two ways is you caneither just float with it, and
you know that's kind of amediocre type approach.
And then going with the flowyeah, and or you can actually
paddle downstream right and,using this analogy, there would
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be.
Those are people who are likeacting foolishly.
You know they're, they're goinginto accelerating their demise
right.
Right, they're drug addicts oralcoholics.
They're, you know, spouseabusers.
Or maybe they're just foolishwith their health, they're
foolish with their finances.
But but the flip side is, goingupstream takes intentional
effort and there's going to beseasons where you can go
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upstream faster.
You're going to be paddlingmore feverishly and there's
going to be seasons where you'rejust paddling consistently.
But either way, you know you'regoing the right direction when
you're tired, when it's hard,because that indicates that
you're going upstream but I alsothink there's a sense of
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accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So you know it's like it's, it is difficult, it is
going to be, it's going to takediscipline and kind of sounds
like it's a little bit morenegative.
But I think the truth is youhave a lot of purpose and
accomplishment when you can seethe progress you're making,
where, when you go downstream, Imean, it takes little to no
effort.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The reality is it doesn't take effort.
You can, you know you can steerfrom one side to the other.
It's not easy, but it is worthit.
So in the book, I talk abouthow rowing upstream means making
conscious decisions in everyarea of our lives health,
finances, relationships andspirituality, among others and
it's about choosing the harderbut ultimately more rewarding
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path.
Right, we love the saying.
It's either the pain ofdiscipline or the pain of regret
, and going upstream is choosingthe pain of discipline versus
the pain of regret.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And again, I think another thing that John Maxwell
says is he'll talk about.
You know, we have uphill dreamsand downhill habits.
Or the way we've described it toour kids is you know, the life
you live with us in our homenowadays is an A-plus type of
life.
But you can't make C-minusdecisions and lead to an A-plus
life.
And it's not that our life isperfect by any stretch of the
imagination, so maybe a plus isnot the best example.
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But basically, you know, we'vehad to make pivots and decisions
along the way to move from Cminus to a B to a B plus to an A
, to get the lifestyle that wehave today, which isn't just
what the things that we own,it's or the money that we make.
It's really the quality of ourrelationships, it's the time we
get together, it's theintentionality of which we lead
our lives.
So a lot of that is just builtinto seasons of multiple
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layering of healthy decisionsover time.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, and choose whatever description you want,
you know the promised land isupstream, the American dream is
upstream.
Every positive thing that weactually strive for is upstream.
Now, most people aren't willingto do the work, but I, even I
love the promised land analogybecause when you think of the
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story of the Exodus right, thepromised land took effort to get
to right.
God told them you're going togo to the promised land.
He did tons of miracles, but itwas still actually hard work.
They had to walk through thedesert, they had to cross the
Red Sea and, yes, god did amiracle for them to walk through
.
But just still imagine it's notlike it was easy for them to
take everything that they ownedand their entire families and
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walk through the Red Sea.
So the reality is to get to thepromised land, whether it's from
a spiritual standpoint or froma material, physical, earthly
standpoint.
Either way, it's upstream andyou have to make that decision.
Am I going to walk, put in thediscipline of rowing upstream
consistently, or am I just goingto go with the flow, because
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you can remain in Egypt and be aslave and maybe even enjoy the
fruits of slavery?
Right, they talked about thecantaloupe and the melons and
the meat or whatever, so you canremain there's.
There are some benefits tostaying in Egypt and going
downstream, but in the grandscheme of things, at the end of
your life you're definitelygoing to say, man, I wish I had
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gone upstream.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And anyone who knows the Old Testament knows that the
Israelites took the very, verylong road to get where they
needed to go.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like many of us, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And one other quote, since we're on that we're on
kind of a quote binge here.
Somebody else would?
I think it's a Jim Rohn quote.
He says don't wish it waseasier, wish you were better.
And it's easy to say and hardto do, but I think it's
important because the truth iswe never really improve
ourselves in a downstream flow.
You know, we don't actuallygrow as people to become better.
We don't improve relationships,all the things.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So yeah, you don't Work your muscles when you're
going downstream right.
The strength comes from goingupstream.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Absolutely, and that ties right into setting clear
goals and developing consistentroutines, which we discussed
earlier.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yep, and the book goes into detail about what I
call the trinity of uncommonfreedom, which includes always
rowing upstream, getting to oneand upgrading your circle Three
things.
You can even think about themas three habits that are
essential to find uncommonfreedom, and these principles or
habits can really transform howentrepreneurs, and really
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anyone who wants to get more outof life and be more productive,
reach their potential, maximizetheir impact, how they approach
their personal and professionallives.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, I can attest to that.
And for our listeners who wantto dive deeper into these
concepts, where can they findyour book?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, the seven disciplines of uncommon freedom
is available on Amazon andaudible.
Uh, by the way, if you happento see a workbook, those are,
there's a.
Uh.
Last time I looked there wasthree workbooks that are just
people trying to piggyback offof my hard work, so those are
not official workbooks, soignore those.
But you can get the book onAmazon or Audible to purchase.
(08:48):
Just click the link in today'sepisode and it's a mere $17.99
for the paperback, and obviouslyAudible.
You can either pay or, if youhave a monthly membership, it's
just a credit.
So great value there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I encourage you to get both, because it's great
read and also it's a greatlisten because your sexy radio
voice is the one who reads thebook.
So the voice I get to listen toevery day the radio voice and
the radio face.
Not at all.
Not at all, but that'sfantastic, kev, so I highly
recommend it to all of ourfreedom fighters out there.
Now let's get back to ourdiscussion on cultivating
self-care.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
All right.
So building a supportivenetwork is absolutely crucial
for the success of coupleentrepreneurship.
Here's how to harness the powerof community to propel both
your business and yourrelationships forward.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So number one is to embrace the concept of social
capital.
So our action step for you isto actually identify three key
relationships in your networkthat you will nurture this week.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So social capital, think of this.
This is we've heard this, youknow, said many times but your
network is your net worth andit's not about getting things or
taking advantage of people,it's not about manipulating, but
it's realizing that truly andyou and I have been having this
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conversation I mean justyesterday we were talking about
how my relationship with JohnMaxwell and that organization is
helping another cause, anothernonprofit that we're incredibly
passionate about further theirmission and over and over and
over, we've either been able toconnect people that we know to
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important people that they needto get whatever they need to get
done, or other people haveconnected us to the people and
resources that we need.
So just being.
That's why we talk aboutUpgrade your Circle.
It's why we talk about upgradeyour circle, it's why we talk
about running with your, runningwith Alliance.
But social capital, thatnetwork being your net worth, is
something that I think mostpeople they underestimate the
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power of.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And our world actually gets smaller the older
we get and just the moreconnections we do with people.
And when you start to havelike-minded values, then you
start to quickly meet peoplethat you want to do more life
with.
And again we're like the averageof the five people we spend the
most time with.
So most of us that's a spouse,family members, co-workers
perhaps, but as you get outsideof that concentric circle, it's
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truly the people that are goingto lift you up in both your
relationships and your workfield and they're going to help
you in your businesspartnerships and all those
things.
And so it's a lot of connectingwith people to figure out who
are the right people.
How can you serve others throughnetworking connections and how
can you find the right people todo business and life with?
Because we would much rathertake a referral from someone in
a business that we're looking toutilize for ourselves, because
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it's someone that we know andtrust who is recommending
someone they know and trust, andit's actually how referrals
work in our business a lot,actually, we get a lot of
referrals from our currentclients who are happy with their
progress and they know theirfriends and family will be well
taken care of with us.
But this is really importantfor us and it's something
important to teach your kids too, because you know the
associations that people theyspend time with as teenagers.
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You know they're kind offiguring that out and many times
they're still learning theright people to spend time with.
But if you walk them throughthis in those teenage years and
teach them to look for peoplethey want to do life with
long-term, there can be a lot oflearning lessons along the way.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah.
So your action step forembracing the concept of social
capital is to identify three keyrelationships in your network
that you can nurture this week,and ways to nurture that is pick
up the phone, send a text.
You and I love voice messages.
It's a great way to just send a.
You know it's like sending atext message but a little more
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just connection to it.
And you know, just tell peoplehey, I'm thinking of you.
If you're a praying type, I waspraying for you.
How can I pray for you?
But just build that relationship, connect with people and then
remember that high trustcommunities are more likely to
support couple run businesses.
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So, once again, you and I, whenwe have trust and we call it a
relationship equity, we're quickto do business with those
people Like we would rather dopeople.
I mean, sometimes things getsticky, but we would rather use
vendors and service providersthat share our values, that we
know are investing in thekingdom, they're not using it
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just for their own personalgreed and self-service and we
just trust them.
So that's a great way to dobusiness.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay.
Number two is to engageactively with your community.
So this is really about findingthings local to you, like
businesses, events or workshopsthat you can attend together in
the next month, finding a way toget yourselves in the room to
make those connections withthose people.
I actually am starting aChristian women's networking
group in August because I wantedto create a space like that
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where I could bring in women wholove our country, that love
Jesus.
They're interested in you knowthey love their families and
they also want to grow theirbusinesses and I'm looking for a
handful of those ladies to getstarted with.
But sometimes you can find itand sometimes you also need to
create it in your own community.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, and what you're creating?
You're intentionally gettingoutside of our business sphere.
So obviously we're huge fans ofdirect sales or network
marketing, those types ofhome-based businesses.
They're phenomenal ways forpeople to make extra money or
even create a whole newlegitimate full-time income that
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could far surpass anything theycould do working at J-O-B.
But a lot of times the tendencyis to hang out just with those
types of people in your specificbusiness, and there's a lot
that can be gained from it.
You know the specifics,intricacies of how your business
works.
You're going to need to learnfrom other people in your
business.
The flip side is there's someblind sides and sometimes we can
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learn things from people whoare outside, in either different
companies in direct sales orthat are in different businesses
, whether it's a brick andmortar or some other type of
service provider.
But getting that variety thatyou know is really important.
So I know what you're creatingis intentionally a collection of
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people outside of what we do.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Which is, you know, not easy, because I actually
love the people I work with alot which is a privilege.
And another thing about networkmarketing that can be incredible
is you.
In some ways, you get to chooseyour coworkers, and so I love
the people that we get to workwith and it's really important
to me to spend time with them.
But I'm also looking to expandmy reach and also my knowledge
base and just to put myself indifferent spaces.
So I feel like that's going tobe important and you know, maybe
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you want to go to a workshop tolearn a new skill set, or maybe
one of you is really interestedand good at something, but the
other person in the partnershipis not, and so they come along
just to learn that avenue, thataspect of business, and it
allows you to have like-mindeddiscussion about things that you
might want to work on orimplement in your family or your
business.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right.
So tip is that communityengagement leads to increased
business success and a strongersense of belonging.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, totally agree with that one.
Okay, number three seek outdiverse perspectives and
collaborations.
This means you're looking forpeople with similar values.
Seek out diverse perspectivesand collaborations.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
This means you're looking for people with similar
values but maybe diversebackgrounds.
Yeah, and so this.
Unfortunately, a little over aweek ago, we had an example of
what goes wrong when you pursue,pursue diversity for the sake
of diversity.
President Trump got shot andthe, the secret service agent
that had no business being onthat stage, was a DEI hire, was
hired for the sake of diversity,and we've got no issues.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Do we know this for sure, or is this just an
assumption?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, obviously, the fact that she was there, she's
completely unqualified To beable to be a protector Taking a
little political break here.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
People yes.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
To be protecting a someone like a presidential
candidate, you have to be ableto remove that person, carry
that person.
If they were incapacitated, shewas clearly incapable of doing
that.
If she did everything else, ifshe knew how to holster her gun
without looking, she's stillincapable of carrying the
president President Trumpespecially because he's a pretty
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large guy.
There's very few men thathonestly would be able to do
that.
So we are not fans of diversityfor the sake of diversity, but
we understand that there's atremendous amount that can be
gained from it.
We have friends from multiplecultural backgrounds and one of
the really cool things is, youknow, we love having family
meals with these people becauseit exposes us.
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You know, it's greatconversation for our kids to
learn what was life like inIndia, what was life like in
Mexico.
They get to experience the foodand they just learn so much and
get outside of our you know,their shelter sheltered Gilbert
Arizona communities.
But what we found is that it'sreally important that the
benefit of diversity comes fromhaving similar values but
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diverse backgrounds.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say so.
Our action step for you isactually to reach out to an
entrepreneur from a differentbackground for a coffee meetup,
and you had a great experienceof this just recently.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, so I talked about I was just on this amazing
trip with John Maxwell.
It was about, I think, ahundred, maybe 150 people on the
trip, uh, and just absoluterock stars.
I posted about this, but I feltlike a minnow in the ocean here
, uh, because but you're myminnow.
Well, yes, I am your minnow, butthe people I was dealing with,
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I mean these are people who havehad um, multiple businesses,
like million and billion dollarbusinesses, inventors, like
hundreds of patents, justabsolute rock stars, and some of
the most humble people.
And you're finally, you'reslowly hearing about like
they've done this, they've donethat, they've owned this,
they've sold that.
But one of the guys that Iimmediately connected with, this
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guy, brother Adele, fellowMarine, I mean just an awesome
friend.
Very quickly we bonded Over atTaintops.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is this the one you bonded over at Taintops?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That is Chris, that's the other Marine.
But, adele, you know he came tothis country.
He was born in Jordan.
No, no, anyways, he was born inthe middle east somewhere I
think it was jordan in a singleroom house wow and had a large
number of siblings, came to thiscountry and absolutely loves
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america.
I he is, uh, extremely wealthyuh and um has owned every exotic
car that my, our son, hasdreamed of.
I was showing Carson picturesof all these different cars that
that he's owned and sold mostof what he has and has given it
to charity and is just on thiskind of a humanitarian mission.
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He's an amazing guy, uh, buthearing his perspective was just
, it was mind-blowing and it wasreally cool for carson, our son
, to have this conversation withsomeone to realize this is,
people who come to this countryas immigrants have a whole
different level of appreciationfor what is possible and I and
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it uh it's really cool for me tohear that, but even it's even I
really enjoy our kids hearingthose stories yeah, carson 17.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So I mean it really sets him up for a little bit of
a different worldview yep and umwho is the author of that book
emigrant edge that we read?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
brian buffini.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, that's an excellent book on leadership and
just understanding the value ofthe work ethic that many
immigrants come in with and justwhat that looks like and why
immigrants are actuallysignificantly more successful
than native-born.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Americans, absolutely .
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Okay, and so just a note that diverse communities
inspire and often, or excuse meand offer perspectives that bust
your paradigms, and you justkind of gave a great example of
that.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yep, all right.
So build a support systembeyond your spouse.
This is important, no.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm just kidding.
We actually totally believe inthis and it's really important
because we love doing life andbusiness together.
But it's really important tohave outside mentorship, outside
accountability and outsidefriendship.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So either join or create the mastermind group,
right?
You talked about you're doingthis.
I think that I've talked aboutthis in the past, that when we
first moved here I joined.
You joined several women'sBible studies.
Those are a great place to atleast start if you're in a new
area.
I tried a couple differentmen's groups from different
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churches, you know, found onethat I liked and then you know
it was the right thing for aseason.
But I made some greatconnections.
I learned about some greatbooks through that and you know,
just try things for a season.
I do recommend that as ageneral rule, you commit to
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probably three to six months ata minimum.
We've found it's very difficultto truly make good
relationships in less than sixmonths.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You need time for that.
It takes about nine to 12months really to build a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But at times you might join something and the
culture is so different thatyou're like, okay, once again,
if your values don't align.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like you were a part of a woman's Bible study where
it was kind of the demographicwas barefoot and pregnant and
that was definitely not you, andso the values of you know, of
really esteeming the Proverbs 31women didn't exist in that
group and so you realize it'stime to move on and find a
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different one Exactly Cause I'ma woman who is passionate about
being a mom and a wife but alsowants to do things that impact
the kingdom outside of ourfamily life, and you can have
the both and it takesintentionality but it really can
be developed, and that's who Isurround myself with now in a
couple of different masterminds.
Well, one specific master,brooke thomas, and then the
networking group that I'mcreating, but this also talks
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about, you know, joiningmastermind groups specifically
for couples and, like, we'regoing to one in november, I
think, with john and lisa bevere, where we go and it's developed
for you know it's around.
There are a lot of couples thatare there.
I don't know if it's designedspecifically for couples, but,
um, it's definitely john and andLisa speaking into business and
life and marriage and families,and it's really helpful for us
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because we just have a differentlevel of conversation when
we're going together and we'reseeing and hearing the same
material and it gives us a lotto talk about and process.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah.
So a robust community will helpyou navigate challenges and
celebrate successes.
I can share.
I've talked about my Eaglesgroup a lot and every that we've
had.
A 2024 and the end of 2023 wasa very rough season where just a
lot of us were traveling and wewere finally back in the rhythm
of getting together and I mean,I just get so much fuel from
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meeting with these guys.
Um, you know, we really cool.
Um, our older two boys have inwithin the last month.
Both of them have beenre-baptized.
Um, they, you know, we reallycool.
Our older two boys have inwithin the last month.
Both of them have beenrebaptized.
They, you know, we've had anincredible journey with them
over the last year and it wasreally, you know, it was awesome
.
One of my friends from theEagles group was like Kevin, we
want to hear about this.
Like they've been praying forme, for us as parents, and
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they've been praying for ourkids, and so that celebration is
is awesome to have and also toknow that they're legitimately
praying for you, not just saying, oh, praying for you, like
actually praying for me and uh,create that group.
Uh, I've told these guys thatI'm grateful that I.
I know that if if they saw mescrewing up in marriage or
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parenting, that I've given thempermission and we mutually have
given each other permission andI could actually count on them
to basically kick me in the nutsif they need to and knock some
sense into me.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Thank you, gentlemen.
Really iron, sharpening iron,which is a biblical value, and
so I think that's amazing.
And then I have a similar thingwith our Queen's table ladies
that I'm in.
I mean I sent them pictures,video of the baptism and a voice
text because same thing theyhad walked us through that.
We have a small group from ourformer church that you know we
have met with that is full ofcouples.
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That same thing.
They pray for us, they supportus, and then we also have our AZ
Freedom Crew.
So we actually have a number ofdifferent places as couples
that we have high-level,protected friendships where you
know they're spirit-led andthere's accountability and
there's true caring.
Not all of them arebusiness-related, but they're
definitely centered around ourfamily values and that's really
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important for us to have.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Okay, number five is to step out of your comfort zone
.
Who's excited to do that?
So the action five is to stepout of your comfort zone.
Who's excited to do that?
So the action step is tovolunteer to speak at a local
event about your entrepreneurialjourney, and I think that's a
powerful way to just putyourself in front of others, to
get your story straight in yourown head and be able to tell it
well and to invite other peopleinto partnership with you.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, so, um, so how the reality is you can volunteer
, but like, what are somepractical where some uh places
people can go, Cause you can'tjust say, hey, I'm going to, I'm
volunteering to speak, right,you need the right venue to do
that.
So do you have anyrecommendations how people can
do that?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Um, you might want to go through a chamber of
commerce or it really helps totalk to other people in business
in your community because theyare often connected to other
networking groups and you canspeak sometimes at a you know a
place of faith or maybe even atyour kids school, on whatever
your expertise is, and thatgives you opportunity to meet
other business owners and figureout where the needs are in your
community for your voice andthe value that you bring yeah,
(26:16):
so chamber of commerce, bni, Ithink that stands for business
networking international,something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Christian Business Networking is another group.
So networking groups are, andmost of those types of groups
they actually rotate through themembers actually having to
speak.
Something else that you can dois there are Dale Carnegie is a
course that I know some of myfamily members have done, and
then Toastmasters is anotherorganization where you it's,
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it's very structured, theyreally help you become a good
professional public speaker andthey, you know they require you
to make presentations, some thatare on the spot, some that you
prepare for.
But those are some options forpeople.
Look, if you don't naturallyhave a way to actually be able
to speak.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Absolutely, and our tip is that growth happens when
you're willing to beuncomfortable and persistent,
and we have experienced this inour personal life and in our
business life as well.
I mean, I can remember thefirst time I was asked to speak,
even on stage, at you know oneof our conventions or something,
and I definitely was excitedand nervous.
I spent, you know, a lot oftime preparing for it.
I think one of my earlyopportunities was at a smaller
venue and we were actually lateleaving house.
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We got lost on the way there.
I kind of lost my mind walkingin because I felt very stressed.
I felt like I was totallydropping the ball.
If we haven't shared this before, uh, responsibility is one of
my top five strength finders,and so I hate to be late to
things and I hate to beunprepared.
So one of my nightmares that Ihave every once in a while is
actually that I am not preparedin where I'm supposed to be,
when I'm supposed to be, or Ican't get packed up to leave for
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a trip and everyone's waitingon me.
It's just a weird.
It's like a weird part of mypersonality, but because of that
, that's my greatest fear.
Not spiders, not serial killers, it's not being on time for
whatever I'm supposed to be, butanyway, you were driving us.
We went the wrong way on thefreeway or took the wrong exit
or something.
We had one of our leader youknow current leaders with us now
early in our career and Iwalked in and I was just huffing
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and puffing and I had a mentortell me later.
He said, you know, when you walkin like that, it it made it
look like it was all about you,and the truth is nobody else
cared.
You weren't actually late, youhad time, even if you weren't as
early as you wanted to be, andit just reminded me that so
often it's like I might havebeen going through all those
things in my mind, but how Ishow up at the event before I
speak even was so important forme to walk in and just be a calm
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presence, and I'm hoping thatI've matured since then and so
now getting on stage in front ofpeople is really a lot more fun
and a lot more peaceful.
I spend a lot of time preparingand praying and just enjoying
the process.
But again, growth happens whenyou're willing to be
uncomfortable and persistent,because even after some rough
ones, I didn't give up.
I just kept saying yes andworking on those skill sets.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And the great thing is, ever since that mentor
shared that wisdom with you, I'mat liberty to say remember
Becca, it's not about you.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yes, okay, remember freedom fighters.
You are not meant to do thisalone.
By intentionally building yourtribe, you're setting yourself
up for success in both businessand marriage.
Boy totally agree with that.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, and don't wait for an invitation to someone
else's table.
Start building your owncommunity today.
Reach out, connect and watchhow it transforms your
entrepreneurial journey and yourlife.
And my encouragement is reachup, do not settle, don't reach
down.
You know, if you think aboutwhere people are at as far as
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making it through life, from askill set, from a developmental
standpoint, reach up, thinkabout people who are one or two
rungs ahead of you and invitethem, and what I've found is the
vast majority are willing tosay yes.
And because we know that youbecome the, you know the average
of the five people you spendthe most time with, and so it's
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so important that, as you'rebuilding this community, you're
building with people who aregoing to bring you up, that are
going upstream, versus peoplethat are going downstream.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And you can reach your hand back down and help
someone.
But again, you want to make sureyou're balancing that with your
own personal growth, because somany times we just reach down,
because it makes us feel good,because we're not intimidated by
the people on, you know, whoare not as far along in their
journey, and so we feel likewe're much more capable to lead
those types of people and we aremore willing to give our our
time and attention to them.
(30:28):
But we will not grow from thatexperience and we can end up
pouring from an empty cup.
So you have to have thementorship both up, or you need
to have the mentorship and thepouring in up to be able to pour
down as well.
Um, and then your network trulyis your net worth in more ways
than one.
So go out there and create thesupportive community that you
need to thrive.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And, as always, we believe in you, the uncommon
freedom that you're fighting for.
Keep building, keep connectingand keep moving forward.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
See you next time, Freedom Fighters.
Hey there, freedom Fighters.
Ever feel like you're on anisland, trying to build your
business and your marriage atthe same time?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, we've got news for you.
It doesn't have to be that way.
Today, we're diving into theincredible power of community in
fueling your journey asentrepreneurial couples.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Speaking of maintaining our entrepreneurial
spirit, I want to take a momentto share something that's been
instrumental in my own journeytowards uncommon freedom.
My book, the Seven Disciplinesof Uncommon Freedom, dives deep
into how we can break free fromthe currents that often hold us
back in life and business.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh, I love the analogy that you use in the book
about always rowing upstream.
Can you share a little bitabout that with our listeners?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Absolutely.
It's actually one of myfavorite things to talk about.
I probably think about theconcept every single day.
I discuss it with our kidsevery single day, have
conversations with people thatwe work with and coach every
single day and use this upstreamanalogy.
And the really cool thing is alot of the people that I
interact with have started touse this concept as they're
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talking with me, and so I knowit's really catching some steam.
You know, in life, andespecially in entrepreneurship,
we're often surrounded by what Icall lazy rivers.
We're frequently in them andit's so easy to just float along
, letting circumstances dictatewhere we end up.
Right, when you're in a lazyriver, you just go.
Actually, you know, even ifit's not a lazy river swimming
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pool style, it might be theplace where you go rafting.
You know in a river, you knowthat's an outdoor type of river,
but you don't get to pick whereyou end up.
Ultimately, the current isgoing to carry you and the
direction that the river runs isgoing to dictate where you go.
But the reality is true freedomthe uncommon kind that we talk
(01:55):
about requires us to always rowupstream.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, I don't know who actually came up with
the saying, but it was that ourgravitational pull is to
mediocrity, not to excellence,and I feel like nothing could be
more true than in our currentsociety, as we kind of sense
that happening in our worldright now and so we're noticing
it and I think that's reallypowerful.
So that resonates with ourtopic today about self-care for
entrepreneurs.
(02:21):
It's not always the easy path,is it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, the reality is the good path is always going to
be the hard path.
You know, our good friend, johnMaxwell, who I just spent over
a week with in Greece prettyamazing talks about the fact
that it's uphill.
You know you're going the rightdirection when you're going
uphill.
You know you're going the rightdirection when you're rowing
upstream.
And what I like about theupstream analogy is you know it
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takes no effort to go downstream.
You know when you're in thatlazy river, to go with the
current it takes no effort.
And there's two ways is you caneither just float with it, and
you know that's kind of amediocre type approach.
And then going with the flowyeah, and or you can actually
paddle downstream right and,using this analogy, there would
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be.
Those are people who are likeacting foolishly.
You know they're, they're goinginto accelerating their demise
right.
Right, they're drug addicts oralcoholics.
They're, you know, spouseabusers.
Or maybe they're just foolishwith their health, they're
foolish with their finances.
But but the flip side is, goingupstream takes intentional
effort and there's going to beseasons where you can go
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upstream faster.
You're going to be paddlingmore feverishly and there's
going to be seasons where you'rejust paddling consistently.
But either way, you know you'regoing the right direction when
you're tired, when it's hard,because that indicates that
you're going upstream but I alsothink there's a sense of
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accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So you know it's like it's, it is difficult, it is
going to be, it's going to takediscipline and kind of sounds
like it's a little bit morenegative.
But I think the truth is youhave a lot of purpose and
accomplishment when you can seethe progress you're making,
where, when you go downstream, Imean, it takes little to no
effort.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The reality is it doesn't take effort.
You can, you know you can steerfrom one side to the other.
It's not easy, but it is worthit.
So in the book, I talk abouthow rowing upstream means making
conscious decisions in everyarea of our lives health,
finances, relationships andspirituality, among others and
it's about choosing the harderbut ultimately more rewarding
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path.
Right, we love the saying.
It's either the pain ofdiscipline or the pain of regret
, and going upstream is choosingthe pain of discipline versus
the pain of regret.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And again, I think another thing that John Maxwell
says is he'll talk about.
You know, we have uphill dreamsand downhill habits.
Or the way we've described it toour kids is you know, the life
you live with us in our homenowadays is an A-plus type of
life.
But you can't make C-minusdecisions and lead to an A-plus
life.
And it's not that our life isperfect by any stretch of the
imagination, so maybe a plus isnot the best example.
(05:05):
But basically, you know, we'vehad to make pivots and decisions
along the way to move from Cminus to a B to a B plus to an A
, to get the lifestyle that wehave today, which isn't just
what the things that we own,it's or the money that we make.
It's really the quality of ourrelationships, it's the time we
get together, it's theintentionality of which we lead
our lives.
So a lot of that is just builtinto seasons of multiple
(05:30):
layering of healthy decisionsover time.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, and choose whatever description you want,
you know the promised land isupstream, the American dream is
upstream.
Every positive thing that weactually strive for is upstream.
Now, most people aren't willingto do the work, but I, even I
love the promised land analogybecause when you think of the
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story of the Exodus right, thepromised land took effort to get
to right.
God told them you're going togo to the promised land.
He did tons of miracles, but itwas still actually hard work.
They had to walk through thedesert, they had to cross the
Red Sea and, yes, god did amiracle for them to walk through
.
But just still imagine it's notlike it was easy for them to
take everything that they ownedand their entire families and
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walk through the Red Sea.
So the reality is to get to thepromised land, whether it's from
a spiritual standpoint or froma material, physical, earthly
standpoint.
Either way, it's upstream andyou have to make that decision.
Am I going to walk, put in thediscipline of rowing upstream
consistently, or am I just goingto go with the flow, because
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you can remain in Egypt and be aslave and maybe even enjoy the
fruits of slavery?
Right, they talked about thecantaloupe and the melons and
the meat or whatever, so you canremain there's.
There are some benefits tostaying in Egypt and going
downstream, but in the grandscheme of things, at the end of
your life you're definitelygoing to say, man, I wish I had
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gone upstream.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And anyone who knows the Old Testament knows that the
Israelites took the very, verylong road to get where they
needed to go.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like many of us, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And one other quote, since we're on that we're on
kind of a quote binge here.
Somebody else would?
I think it's a Jim Rohn quote.
He says don't wish it waseasier, wish you were better.
And it's easy to say and hardto do, but I think it's
important because the truth iswe never really improve
ourselves in a downstream flow.
You know, we don't actuallygrow as people to become better.
We don't improve relationships,all the things.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So yeah, you don't Work your muscles when you're
going downstream right.
The strength comes from goingupstream.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Absolutely, and that ties right into setting clear
goals and developing consistentroutines, which we discussed
earlier.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yep, and the book goes into detail about what I
call the trinity of uncommonfreedom, which includes always
rowing upstream, getting to oneand upgrading your circle Three
things.
You can even think about themas three habits that are
essential to find uncommonfreedom, and these principles or
habits can really transform howentrepreneurs, and really
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anyone who wants to get more outof life and be more productive,
reach their potential, maximizetheir impact, how they approach
their personal and professionallives.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, I can attest to that.
And for our listeners who wantto dive deeper into these
concepts, where can they findyour book?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, the seven disciplines of uncommon freedom
is available on Amazon andaudible.
Uh, by the way, if you happento see a workbook, those are,
there's a.
Uh.
Last time I looked there wasthree workbooks that are just
people trying to piggyback offof my hard work, so those are
not official workbooks, soignore those.
But you can get the book onAmazon or Audible to purchase.
(08:48):
Just click the link in today'sepisode and it's a mere $17.99
for the paperback, and obviouslyAudible.
You can either pay or, if youhave a monthly membership, it's
just a credit.
So great value there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I encourage you to get both, because it's great
read and also it's a greatlisten because your sexy radio
voice is the one who reads thebook.
So the voice I get to listen toevery day the radio voice and
the radio face.
Not at all.
Not at all, but that'sfantastic, kev, so I highly
recommend it to all of ourfreedom fighters out there.
Now let's get back to ourdiscussion on cultivating
self-care.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
All right.
So building a supportivenetwork is absolutely crucial
for the success of coupleentrepreneurship.
Here's how to harness the powerof community to propel both
your business and yourrelationships forward.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So number one is to embrace the concept of social
capital.
So our action step for you isto actually identify three key
relationships in your networkthat you will nurture this week.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So social capital, think of this.
This is we've heard this, youknow, said many times but your
network is your net worth andit's not about getting things or
taking advantage of people,it's not about manipulating, but
it's realizing that truly andyou and I have been having this
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conversation I mean justyesterday we were talking about
how my relationship with JohnMaxwell and that organization is
helping another cause, anothernonprofit that we're incredibly
passionate about further theirmission and over and over and
over, we've either been able toconnect people that we know to
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important people that they needto get whatever they need to get
done, or other people haveconnected us to the people and
resources that we need.
So just being.
That's why we talk aboutUpgrade your Circle.
It's why we talk about upgradeyour circle, it's why we talk
about running with your, runningwith Alliance.
But social capital, thatnetwork being your net worth, is
something that I think mostpeople they underestimate the
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power of.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And our world actually gets smaller the older
we get and just the moreconnections we do with people.
And when you start to havelike-minded values, then you
start to quickly meet peoplethat you want to do more life
with.
And again we're like the averageof the five people we spend the
most time with.
So most of us that's a spouse,family members, co-workers
perhaps, but as you get outsideof that concentric circle, it's
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truly the people that are goingto lift you up in both your
relationships and your workfield and they're going to help
you in your businesspartnerships and all those
things.
And so it's a lot of connectingwith people to figure out who
are the right people.
How can you serve others throughnetworking connections and how
can you find the right people todo business and life with?
Because we would much rathertake a referral from someone in
a business that we're looking toutilize for ourselves, because
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it's someone that we know andtrust who is recommending
someone they know and trust, andit's actually how referrals
work in our business a lot,actually, we get a lot of
referrals from our currentclients who are happy with their
progress and they know theirfriends and family will be well
taken care of with us.
But this is really importantfor us and it's something
important to teach your kids too, because you know the
associations that people theyspend time with as teenagers.
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You know they're kind offiguring that out and many times
they're still learning theright people to spend time with.
But if you walk them throughthis in those teenage years and
teach them to look for peoplethey want to do life with
long-term, there can be a lot oflearning lessons along the way.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah.
So your action step forembracing the concept of social
capital is to identify three keyrelationships in your network
that you can nurture this week,and ways to nurture that is pick
up the phone, send a text.
You and I love voice messages.
It's a great way to just send a.
You know it's like sending atext message but a little more
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just connection to it.
And you know, just tell peoplehey, I'm thinking of you.
If you're a praying type, I waspraying for you.
How can I pray for you?
But just build that relationship, connect with people and then
remember that high trustcommunities are more likely to
support couple run businesses.
(12:53):
So, once again, you and I, whenwe have trust and we call it a
relationship equity, we're quickto do business with those
people Like we would rather dopeople.
I mean, sometimes things getsticky, but we would rather use
vendors and service providersthat share our values, that we
know are investing in thekingdom, they're not using it
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just for their own personalgreed and self-service and we
just trust them.
So that's a great way to dobusiness.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay.
Number two is to engageactively with your community.
So this is really about findingthings local to you, like
businesses, events or workshopsthat you can attend together in
the next month, finding a way toget yourselves in the room to
make those connections withthose people.
I actually am starting aChristian women's networking
group in August because I wantedto create a space like that
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where I could bring in women wholove our country, that love
Jesus.
They're interested in you knowthey love their families and
they also want to grow theirbusinesses and I'm looking for a
handful of those ladies to getstarted with.
But sometimes you can find itand sometimes you also need to
create it in your own community.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, and what you're creating?
You're intentionally gettingoutside of our business sphere.
So obviously we're huge fans ofdirect sales or network
marketing, those types ofhome-based businesses.
They're phenomenal ways forpeople to make extra money or
even create a whole newlegitimate full-time income that
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could far surpass anything theycould do working at J-O-B.
But a lot of times the tendencyis to hang out just with those
types of people in your specificbusiness, and there's a lot
that can be gained from it.
You know the specifics,intricacies of how your business
works.
You're going to need to learnfrom other people in your
business.
The flip side is there's someblind sides and sometimes we can
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learn things from people whoare outside, in either different
companies in direct sales orthat are in different businesses
, whether it's a brick andmortar or some other type of
service provider.
But getting that variety thatyou know is really important.
So I know what you're creatingis intentionally a collection of
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people outside of what we do.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Which is, you know, not easy, because I actually
love the people I work with alot which is a privilege.
And another thing about networkmarketing that can be incredible
is you.
In some ways, you get to chooseyour coworkers, and so I love
the people that we get to workwith and it's really important
to me to spend time with them.
But I'm also looking to expandmy reach and also my knowledge
base and just to put myself indifferent spaces.
So I feel like that's going tobe important and you know, maybe
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you want to go to a workshop tolearn a new skill set, or maybe
one of you is really interestedand good at something, but the
other person in the partnershipis not, and so they come along
just to learn that avenue, thataspect of business, and it
allows you to have like-mindeddiscussion about things that you
might want to work on orimplement in your family or your
business.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right.
So tip is that communityengagement leads to increased
business success and a strongersense of belonging.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, totally agree with that one.
Okay, number three seek outdiverse perspectives and
collaborations.
This means you're looking forpeople with similar values.
Seek out diverse perspectivesand collaborations.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
This means you're looking for people with similar
values but maybe diversebackgrounds.
Yeah, and so this.
Unfortunately, a little over aweek ago, we had an example of
what goes wrong when you pursue,pursue diversity for the sake
of diversity.
President Trump got shot andthe, the secret service agent
that had no business being onthat stage, was a DEI hire, was
hired for the sake of diversity,and we've got no issues.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Do we know this for sure, or is this just an
assumption?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, obviously, the fact that she was there, she's
completely unqualified To beable to be a protector Taking a
little political break here.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
People yes.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
To be protecting a someone like a presidential
candidate, you have to be ableto remove that person, carry
that person.
If they were incapacitated, shewas clearly incapable of doing
that.
If she did everything else, ifshe knew how to holster her gun
without looking, she's stillincapable of carrying the
president President Trumpespecially because he's a pretty
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large guy.
There's very few men thathonestly would be able to do
that.
So we are not fans of diversityfor the sake of diversity, but
we understand that there's atremendous amount that can be
gained from it.
We have friends from multiplecultural backgrounds and one of
the really cool things is, youknow, we love having family
meals with these people becauseit exposes us.
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You know, it's greatconversation for our kids to
learn what was life like inIndia, what was life like in
Mexico.
They get to experience the foodand they just learn so much and
get outside of our you know,their shelter sheltered Gilbert
Arizona communities.
But what we found is that it'sreally important that the
benefit of diversity comes fromhaving similar values but
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diverse backgrounds.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say so.
Our action step for you isactually to reach out to an
entrepreneur from a differentbackground for a coffee meetup,
and you had a great experienceof this just recently.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, so I talked about I was just on this amazing
trip with John Maxwell.
It was about, I think, ahundred, maybe 150 people on the
trip, uh, and just absoluterock stars.
I posted about this, but I feltlike a minnow in the ocean here
, uh, because but you're myminnow.
Well, yes, I am your minnow, butthe people I was dealing with,
(18:15):
I mean these are people who havehad um, multiple businesses,
like million and billion dollarbusinesses, inventors, like
hundreds of patents, justabsolute rock stars, and some of
the most humble people.
And you're finally, you'reslowly hearing about like
they've done this, they've donethat, they've owned this,
they've sold that.
But one of the guys that Iimmediately connected with, this
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guy, brother Adele, fellowMarine, I mean just an awesome
friend.
Very quickly we bonded Over atTaintops.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is this the one you bonded over at Taintops?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That is Chris, that's the other Marine.
But, adele, you know he came tothis country.
He was born in Jordan.
No, no, anyways, he was born inthe middle east somewhere I
think it was jordan in a singleroom house wow and had a large
number of siblings, came to thiscountry and absolutely loves
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america.
I he is, uh, extremely wealthyuh and um has owned every exotic
car that my, our son, hasdreamed of.
I was showing Carson picturesof all these different cars that
that he's owned and sold mostof what he has and has given it
to charity and is just on thiskind of a humanitarian mission.
(19:38):
He's an amazing guy, uh, buthearing his perspective was just
, it was mind-blowing and it wasreally cool for carson, our son
, to have this conversation withsomeone to realize this is,
people who come to this countryas immigrants have a whole
different level of appreciationfor what is possible and I and
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it uh it's really cool for me tohear that, but even it's even I
really enjoy our kids hearingthose stories yeah, carson 17.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So I mean it really sets him up for a little bit of
a different worldview yep and umwho is the author of that book
emigrant edge that we read?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
brian buffini.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, that's an excellent book on leadership and
just understanding the value ofthe work ethic that many
immigrants come in with and justwhat that looks like and why
immigrants are actuallysignificantly more successful
than native-born.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Americans, absolutely .
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Okay, and so just a note that diverse communities
inspire and often, or excuse meand offer perspectives that bust
your paradigms, and you justkind of gave a great example of
that.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yep, all right.
So build a support systembeyond your spouse.
This is important, no.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm just kidding.
We actually totally believe inthis and it's really important
because we love doing life andbusiness together.
But it's really important tohave outside mentorship, outside
accountability and outsidefriendship.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So either join or create the mastermind group,
right?
You talked about you're doingthis.
I think that I've talked aboutthis in the past, that when we
first moved here I joined.
You joined several women'sBible studies.
Those are a great place to atleast start if you're in a new
area.
I tried a couple differentmen's groups from different
(21:23):
churches, you know, found onethat I liked and then you know
it was the right thing for aseason.
But I made some greatconnections.
I learned about some greatbooks through that and you know,
just try things for a season.
I do recommend that as ageneral rule, you commit to
(21:43):
probably three to six months ata minimum.
We've found it's very difficultto truly make good
relationships in less than sixmonths.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You need time for that.
It takes about nine to 12months really to build a
relationship.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But at times you might join something and the
culture is so different thatyou're like, okay, once again,
if your values don't align.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like you were a part of a woman's Bible study where
it was kind of the demographicwas barefoot and pregnant and
that was definitely not you, andso the values of you know, of
really esteeming the Proverbs 31women didn't exist in that
group and so you realize it'stime to move on and find a
(22:23):
different one Exactly Cause I'ma woman who is passionate about
being a mom and a wife but alsowants to do things that impact
the kingdom outside of ourfamily life, and you can have
the both and it takesintentionality but it really can
be developed, and that's who Isurround myself with now in a
couple of different masterminds.
Well, one specific master,brooke thomas, and then the
networking group that I'mcreating, but this also talks
(22:46):
about, you know, joiningmastermind groups specifically
for couples and, like, we'regoing to one in november, I
think, with john and lisa bevere, where we go and it's developed
for you know it's around.
There are a lot of couples thatare there.
I don't know if it's designedspecifically for couples, but,
um, it's definitely john and andLisa speaking into business and
life and marriage and families,and it's really helpful for us
(23:06):
because we just have a differentlevel of conversation when
we're going together and we'reseeing and hearing the same
material and it gives us a lotto talk about and process.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah.
So a robust community will helpyou navigate challenges and
celebrate successes.
I can share.
I've talked about my Eaglesgroup a lot and every that we've
had.
A 2024 and the end of 2023 wasa very rough season where just a
lot of us were traveling and wewere finally back in the rhythm
of getting together and I mean,I just get so much fuel from
(23:37):
meeting with these guys.
Um, you know, we really cool.
Um, our older two boys have inwithin the last month.
Both of them have beenre-baptized.
Um, they, you know, we reallycool.
Our older two boys have inwithin the last month.
Both of them have beenrebaptized.
They, you know, we've had anincredible journey with them
over the last year and it wasreally, you know, it was awesome
.
One of my friends from theEagles group was like Kevin, we
want to hear about this.
Like they've been praying forme, for us as parents, and
(23:57):
they've been praying for ourkids, and so that celebration is
is awesome to have and also toknow that they're legitimately
praying for you, not just saying, oh, praying for you, like
actually praying for me and uh,create that group.
Uh, I've told these guys thatI'm grateful that I.
I know that if if they saw mescrewing up in marriage or
(24:20):
parenting, that I've given thempermission and we mutually have
given each other permission andI could actually count on them
to basically kick me in the nutsif they need to and knock some
sense into me.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Thank you, gentlemen.
Really iron, sharpening iron,which is a biblical value, and
so I think that's amazing.
And then I have a similar thingwith our Queen's table ladies
that I'm in.
I mean I sent them pictures,video of the baptism and a voice
text because same thing theyhad walked us through that.
We have a small group from ourformer church that you know we
have met with that is full ofcouples.
(24:55):
That same thing.
They pray for us, they supportus, and then we also have our AZ
Freedom Crew.
So we actually have a number ofdifferent places as couples
that we have high-level,protected friendships where you
know they're spirit-led andthere's accountability and
there's true caring.
Not all of them arebusiness-related, but they're
definitely centered around ourfamily values and that's really
(25:15):
important for us to have.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Okay, number five is to step out of your comfort zone
.
Who's excited to do that?
So the action five is to stepout of your comfort zone.
Who's excited to do that?
So the action step is tovolunteer to speak at a local
event about your entrepreneurialjourney, and I think that's a
powerful way to just putyourself in front of others, to
get your story straight in yourown head and be able to tell it
well and to invite other peopleinto partnership with you.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, so, um, so how the reality is you can volunteer
, but like, what are somepractical where some uh places
people can go, Cause you can'tjust say, hey, I'm going to, I'm
volunteering to speak, right,you need the right venue to do
that.
So do you have anyrecommendations how people can
do that?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Um, you might want to go through a chamber of
commerce or it really helps totalk to other people in business
in your community because theyare often connected to other
networking groups and you canspeak sometimes at a you know a
place of faith or maybe even atyour kids school, on whatever
your expertise is, and thatgives you opportunity to meet
other business owners and figureout where the needs are in your
community for your voice andthe value that you bring yeah,
(26:16):
so chamber of commerce, bni, Ithink that stands for business
networking international,something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Christian Business Networking is another group.
So networking groups are, andmost of those types of groups
they actually rotate through themembers actually having to
speak.
Something else that you can dois there are Dale Carnegie is a
course that I know some of myfamily members have done, and
then Toastmasters is anotherorganization where you it's,
(26:44):
it's very structured, theyreally help you become a good
professional public speaker andthey, you know they require you
to make presentations, some thatare on the spot, some that you
prepare for.
But those are some options forpeople.
Look, if you don't naturallyhave a way to actually be able
to speak.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Absolutely, and our tip is that growth happens when
you're willing to beuncomfortable and persistent,
and we have experienced this inour personal life and in our
business life as well.
I mean, I can remember thefirst time I was asked to speak,
even on stage, at you know oneof our conventions or something,
and I definitely was excitedand nervous.
I spent, you know, a lot oftime preparing for it.
I think one of my earlyopportunities was at a smaller
venue and we were actually lateleaving house.
(27:28):
We got lost on the way there.
I kind of lost my mind walkingin because I felt very stressed.
I felt like I was totallydropping the ball.
If we haven't shared this before, uh, responsibility is one of
my top five strength finders,and so I hate to be late to
things and I hate to beunprepared.
So one of my nightmares that Ihave every once in a while is
actually that I am not preparedin where I'm supposed to be,
when I'm supposed to be, or Ican't get packed up to leave for
(27:50):
a trip and everyone's waitingon me.
It's just a weird.
It's like a weird part of mypersonality, but because of that
, that's my greatest fear.
Not spiders, not serial killers, it's not being on time for
whatever I'm supposed to be, butanyway, you were driving us.
We went the wrong way on thefreeway or took the wrong exit
or something.
We had one of our leader youknow current leaders with us now
early in our career and Iwalked in and I was just huffing
(28:11):
and puffing and I had a mentortell me later.
He said, you know, when you walkin like that, it it made it
look like it was all about you,and the truth is nobody else
cared.
You weren't actually late, youhad time, even if you weren't as
early as you wanted to be, andit just reminded me that so
often it's like I might havebeen going through all those
things in my mind, but how Ishow up at the event before I
speak even was so important forme to walk in and just be a calm
(28:33):
presence, and I'm hoping thatI've matured since then and so
now getting on stage in front ofpeople is really a lot more fun
and a lot more peaceful.
I spend a lot of time preparingand praying and just enjoying
the process.
But again, growth happens whenyou're willing to be
uncomfortable and persistent,because even after some rough
ones, I didn't give up.
I just kept saying yes andworking on those skill sets.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
And the great thing is, ever since that mentor
shared that wisdom with you, I'mat liberty to say remember
Becca, it's not about you.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yes, okay, remember freedom fighters.
You are not meant to do thisalone.
By intentionally building yourtribe, you're setting yourself
up for success in both businessand marriage.
Boy totally agree with that.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, and don't wait for an invitation to someone
else's table.
Start building your owncommunity today.
Reach out, connect and watchhow it transforms your
entrepreneurial journey and yourlife.
And my encouragement is reachup, do not settle, don't reach
down.
You know, if you think aboutwhere people are at as far as
(29:37):
making it through life, from askill set, from a developmental
standpoint, reach up, thinkabout people who are one or two
rungs ahead of you and invitethem, and what I've found is the
vast majority are willing tosay yes.
And because we know that youbecome the, you know the average
of the five people you spendthe most time with, and so it's
(29:59):
so important that, as you'rebuilding this community, you're
building with people who aregoing to bring you up, that are
going upstream, versus peoplethat are going downstream.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And you can reach your hand back down and help
someone.
But again, you want to make sureyou're balancing that with your
own personal growth, because somany times we just reach down,
because it makes us feel good,because we're not intimidated by
the people on, you know, whoare not as far along in their
journey, and so we feel likewe're much more capable to lead
those types of people and we aremore willing to give our our
time and attention to them.
(30:28):
But we will not grow from thatexperience and we can end up
pouring from an empty cup.
So you have to have thementorship both up, or you need
to have the mentorship and thepouring in up to be able to pour
down as well.
Um, and then your network trulyis your net worth in more ways
than one.
So go out there and create thesupportive community that you
need to thrive.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And, as always, we believe in you, the uncommon
freedom that you're fighting for.
Keep building, keep connectingand keep moving forward.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
See you next time, Freedom Fighters.
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