February 11, 2025 • 13 mins
Ever wondered how tribalism shapes our interactions in the digital world? Join me, Jay Floyd, as I weave together personal stories and cultural critiques to unwrap this complex topic. Picture me sipping a Chick-fil-A frosted coffee while my kids are off to Ninja Camp, setting the stage for a lively conversation about Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl performance. I dive into the heated Kendrick versus Drake debate, questioning whether industry algorithms are pulling the strings on public opinion. By comparing Kendrick to Prince and Drake to Michael Jackson, I highlight the distinct, sometimes cryptic, nature of Kendrick's pro-black messaging and what it signifies about generational shifts in musical communication.
Moving forward, I tackle the age-old challenge of unity in a world driven by inherent tribal instincts. Reflecting on the hurdles these instincts present, I encourage you to join the conversation on how we might overcome them to build a more peaceful and unified society. Your thoughts and insights are not just welcome; they're essential as we explore these pressing issues together. Stay engaged with me on social media as we probe what it truly means to foster collective harmony in today's fragmented world. Let's stay thoughtful and work towards peace, one conversation at a time.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up everybody.
Welcome to another episode ofOn Everything, and I'm your host
, jay Floyd, and this is a showwhere it's been kind of a I have
a fear that it just goes offthe rails.
Right that my anybody who'slistening.
I noticed that I do have somevery loyal listeners thing.
(00:27):
I noticed that I do have somevery loyal listeners.
Every time I check the stats,it's not as high as I want it to
be.
Obviously we're going to getthere, but it's so locked in,
steady man.
Every episode is hitting thesame number, which is a
surprisingly high number givenhow much consistency this show
has lacked as far as me puttingout content.
(00:49):
But it's very flat.
So every time it's the samenumber of listeners, same number
.
So first of all, I just want tothank y'all.
Big shout out to y'all forchecking back in with me.
I appreciate it.
Checking back in with me, Iappreciate it.
I do know that through my life,through my journey, man, I have
(01:13):
such a unique story.
Right, I may not be alwaysright on everything, but I have
a very unique perspective and Iknow where my strengths are and
I try to lean into them andthat's what we do right here.
So let's go and do it again,man.
I was driving from Chick-fil-Athis morning.
Shout out, chick-fil again.
Man, I was driving fromChick-fil-A this morning.
Shout out, chick-fil-a.
Man, I got this thing about.
I'm not big into coffee, right,for me, coffee has to be gotta
(01:35):
spritz it up with too manythings for it to even be good.
But Chick-fil-A has thatfrosted coffee.
And I know, you know, coffeedrinkers out there are probably
like man, you a sucker, right.
But no, I mean, that's what Idig.
I know it's probably.
You know it's just like aslushy ice or whatever, mixed
(01:57):
with probably about half a cupof ice cream, I mean of coffee,
but it's what I like.
So I was headed to Chick-fil-A,dropped my kids off at Ninja
Camp and I was headed back andit was stunning to me, man, I'm
sitting here still thinkingabout this Super Bowl halftime
performance by K-Dot.
(02:17):
Right, kendrick Lamar did histhing at the Super Bowl, and you
know, it's just so many backand forth and back and forth and
I'm going to give my take on it.
I'm going to give my take on it, but I also have a second take
that was really pressing on me,but I know I can't bring up the
Super Bowl without giving myopinion For one.
(02:41):
I thought it was a goodperformance.
I thought Kendrick did hisKendrick thing.
I'm not real big into theKendrick versus Drake.
Oh my God, kill him, do it.
I feel like there's a lot ofmind control and you can check
back to my Trading Placesepisode to see how I really feel
.
I feel like, yeah, kendrick isgreat, but the way that the
(03:05):
masses have been swayed toidolize Kendrick and demonize
Drake, it's artificial to me.
Right, it's artificial.
I don't know all the details ofthe evidence that Drake is
bringing in his lawsuit, but Ihave been in the music industry
long enough to know how corruptit is and the know, and I work
(03:25):
in data and I understandalgorithms and I know how much
you can influence based on whatyou suppress versus what you
promote.
So for me, I don't really getinto that whole.
Oh my God, I want Drake to getslammed even worse.
And Kendrick is being petty.
And look at these Easter eggsand I don't get into all of that
(03:46):
.
That's not really my thing, man.
I'm old school man.
I'm old school battle rap man.
I'm not into the Easter eggs.
Man.
Just say what you're going tosay, right, like I know people
were like, oh, he looked rightat the camera and when he said
Drake's name, well, look, youwrote a song saying Drake's name
.
There is no other way to saythat line.
(04:08):
You better look right in thecamera.
That's my opinion.
So overall, man, I thought itwas a good performance.
I thought Kendrick did Kendrick.
My view of Kendrick is alwaysthat he is a little bit like
Prince, whereas Drake is moreMichael Jackson.
I feel like Prince did histhing at the Super Bowl after he
(04:31):
was already established and gotenough.
He could rock a whole stadiumlike that right, and not just a
stadium, but you got the worldwatching and you need to make
sure that the show is universalenough.
You don't have to water it down, but that it's universal enough
.
And I kind of felt like Kendrickdid Kendrick, which a lot of
(04:53):
people might find boring.
I'm one of those that finds ita little boring.
Some people might find itoffensive.
There's a lot of people outthere that don't like the
pro-black thing and they're likeI don't want any of that,
whatever to that.
But for me, man, listen, I'vebeen listening to so much
pro-black music propaganda sinceI was in high school.
(05:16):
I mean, this is what I gotraised on.
Like I know not everybody hasthat experience, right, but I
mean Ice Cube, dead, prez X-Clan, poor Righteous Teachers,
krs-one.
I mean for me, hearing somebodyteach and educate in pro-black,
(05:41):
like unashamed pro-black waysis nothing new, like it's super
old, it's so old that I miss it.
Like they don't even do itanymore, right?
So for me I dig what Kendrick,the angle that he's going at,
but for me it's a little bitpassive-aggressive, right, like
(06:01):
you got to read the signs andtranslate and find the Easter
egg and you know you never haveKendrick explaining it, it's
always his fans explaining itand that's cool.
I know that that's what the newgeneration is on and watching
everybody argue about it.
(06:22):
Nobody's allowed to havedissenting opinions anymore.
I was just thinking.
I was like what drives thiskind of thing?
And one of the things thatstood out to me was humans are
tribal.
Right, we've always been tribal.
That's in our nature from dayone.
(06:43):
Right, we split up and we go intwo different directions and
then we find animosity aboutthose two different directions,
right, like Adam and Eve createdin the garden.
If you believe in that, right,I don't want to start pressing,
like everybody believes that,but Adam and Eve are created in
(07:03):
the garden and immediately theyhave children and two of their
sons go at it Right and one getskilled.
So tribalism is just and evenif you don't believe in that
story, you understand that.
You probably understand orthink that that story is created
for a reason and that is toexemplify the tribalism of man.
(07:26):
So yeah, we've been like thisforever.
Humans are tribal.
I think the thing that I thinkis so interesting now and it's
so hard to get a handle on forall of us, tribalism has
required I don't even know if Iwould require it has always
included physical proximity.
(07:48):
Right, you always had yourtribe right next to you.
Right, even I don't care whatage it was throughout human
history, you could go back toyour tribe and huddle up
together and face any challengetogether.
And I believe right now,specifically, probably right
after you get, right after theyear 2000,.
(08:11):
Right Like maybe post 9-11, youget firmly into the internet
age, right Like whatever thatyou know phase of that, right
Like.
So there was many phases of usgrowing into where we are right
now, phases of us growing intowhere we are right now, tribes
don't exist with physicalproximity anymore.
(08:33):
So our human brain, our animalbrain, is still like.
I need my tribe when things arenot going the way I want, when
there's opposition to me or whatI think.
I want the comfort of my tribearound me so that we can huddle
together and respond Right andit doesn't exist physically
(08:54):
right Like when I was younger inthe 80s.
You know, in the neighborhoodsI lived in in Cleveland you know
if we lived on 79th andSuperior or 89th and Buckeye.
You go about life and RonaldReagan passes some law, or you
watch the news and you see AliNorth and the Iran Contras and
(09:17):
your parents come in and explainstuff to you and next thing you
know you all go to thebarbershop or the beauty shop or
the grocery store or you justgo out on the street and
everybody's talking.
We are collectively finding ourresponse.
You might even walk to thecorner store to get some candy
(09:40):
and cigarettes or play thenumber and you hear the wino
outside the store saying some ofthe wisest stuff you ever heard
intermingled with some of thecraziest stuff you ever heard,
right.
So that thing that washappening, that I'm used to in
the 80s and even maybe in the90s, was physical proximity,
(10:04):
tribalism, us coming together tosay this is not good.
Let's dissect this and see howwe feel we should respond.
We should respond.
Nowadays that response has tohappen through social media and
(10:26):
there's a lot of differentchosen social media platforms.
There's a lot of differentplaces where people might settle
or rest at.
Generations become a bigproblem.
Back in the physical proximitydays, their parents could grab
their kids.
Back in the physical proximitydays, their parents could grab
their kids, tell them to put theNintendo or Atari joystick down
.
We got to talk and everybody'sin it was an adult's world.
Everybody had to huddle up ifthe adult said huddle up.
(10:48):
Now the kids are in a differentsocial media platform than the
adults.
The adults are bouncing aroundFacebook, the adults are on X,
the kids are in TikTok orwherever they might be.
Right, there's difficultyfinding collective tribes.
So now you know, in order towork out your response, you face
(11:14):
newer hurdles wheregenerational gaps become even
bigger.
Right, I know there wasgenerational gaps in our
tribalism response in the past.
Right, specifically, if youlook at something as big as like
the Vietnam War response.
Right, that was, everycommunity was finding their
response to that and there wasgenerational gaps there.
(11:37):
But I think now you just havethis hurdle of generations.
Then you have this mixing.
It's not so much, hey.
Typically if you are tribalwith the people you live around,
then people look like you, theythink like you, they have
common upbringing as you, andnow you have more of the
(11:58):
shuffling of the deck.
You just might be in a certaintribe on your lunch break
talking about politics and beinga whole nother tribe at five
o'clock when you get off workand you start talking on
Facebook with your friends oryou go on a neighborhood website
.
It's different tribes fordifferent concerns, and not
(12:23):
everybody looks like you, noteverybody thinks like you.
Not everybody has that concernfor the same reason.
Not everybody is upset aboutthe removal of DEI for the same
reasons.
Not everybody is anti-DonaldIfor the same reasons.
Not everybody is anti-DonaldTrump for the same reasons, and
it becomes an interestinglandscape to navigate.
(12:47):
So again, this is Jay Floyd oneverything.
Hit up any of my pages and tellme what you think.
I hope this can spark somethought for you.
I hope this you know.
In any way, I think that wehave to find a way to a better
resolution for unity.
(13:08):
I think it's hard to get tounity if you can't satisfy and
overcome our most basic need,which is tribalism or this most
basic desire.
It's tough to overcome thatbecause it doesn't really get
the itch, doesn't get scratchedgood, so people end up spending
(13:31):
a lot of time there and I thinkit kind of becomes a hurdle to
us getting where we need to go.
So yeah, give me some thoughts,man.
That's just what I was thinkingtoday.
Stay, floyd, on everything Ilove.
Y'all Peace.
What's up everybody.
Welcome to another episode ofOn Everything, and I'm your host
, jay Floyd, and this is a showwhere it's been kind of a I have
a fear that it just goes offthe rails.
Right that my anybody who'slistening.
I noticed that I do have somevery loyal listeners thing.
(00:27):
I noticed that I do have somevery loyal listeners.
Every time I check the stats,it's not as high as I want it to
be.
Obviously we're going to getthere, but it's so locked in,
steady man.
Every episode is hitting thesame number, which is a
surprisingly high number givenhow much consistency this show
has lacked as far as me puttingout content.
(00:49):
But it's very flat.
So every time it's the samenumber of listeners, same number
.
So first of all, I just want tothank y'all.
Big shout out to y'all forchecking back in with me.
I appreciate it.
Checking back in with me, Iappreciate it.
I do know that through my life,through my journey, man, I have
(01:13):
such a unique story.
Right, I may not be alwaysright on everything, but I have
a very unique perspective and Iknow where my strengths are and
I try to lean into them andthat's what we do right here.
So let's go and do it again,man.
I was driving from Chick-fil-Athis morning.
Shout out, chick-fil again.
Man, I was driving fromChick-fil-A this morning.
Shout out, chick-fil-a.
Man, I got this thing about.
I'm not big into coffee, right,for me, coffee has to be gotta
(01:35):
spritz it up with too manythings for it to even be good.
But Chick-fil-A has thatfrosted coffee.
And I know, you know, coffeedrinkers out there are probably
like man, you a sucker, right.
But no, I mean, that's what Idig.
I know it's probably.
You know it's just like aslushy ice or whatever, mixed
(01:57):
with probably about half a cupof ice cream, I mean of coffee,
but it's what I like.
So I was headed to Chick-fil-A,dropped my kids off at Ninja
Camp and I was headed back andit was stunning to me, man, I'm
sitting here still thinkingabout this Super Bowl halftime
performance by K-Dot.
(02:17):
Right, kendrick Lamar did histhing at the Super Bowl, and you
know, it's just so many backand forth and back and forth and
I'm going to give my take on it.
I'm going to give my take on it, but I also have a second take
that was really pressing on me,but I know I can't bring up the
Super Bowl without giving myopinion For one.
(02:41):
I thought it was a goodperformance.
I thought Kendrick did hisKendrick thing.
I'm not real big into theKendrick versus Drake.
Oh my God, kill him, do it.
I feel like there's a lot ofmind control and you can check
back to my Trading Placesepisode to see how I really feel
.
I feel like, yeah, kendrick isgreat, but the way that the
(03:05):
masses have been swayed toidolize Kendrick and demonize
Drake, it's artificial to me.
Right, it's artificial.
I don't know all the details ofthe evidence that Drake is
bringing in his lawsuit, but Ihave been in the music industry
long enough to know how corruptit is and the know, and I work
(03:25):
in data and I understandalgorithms and I know how much
you can influence based on whatyou suppress versus what you
promote.
So for me, I don't really getinto that whole.
Oh my God, I want Drake to getslammed even worse.
And Kendrick is being petty.
And look at these Easter eggsand I don't get into all of that
(03:46):
.
That's not really my thing, man.
I'm old school man.
I'm old school battle rap man.
I'm not into the Easter eggs.
Man.
Just say what you're going tosay, right, like I know people
were like, oh, he looked rightat the camera and when he said
Drake's name, well, look, youwrote a song saying Drake's name
.
There is no other way to saythat line.
(04:08):
You better look right in thecamera.
That's my opinion.
So overall, man, I thought itwas a good performance.
I thought Kendrick did Kendrick.
My view of Kendrick is alwaysthat he is a little bit like
Prince, whereas Drake is moreMichael Jackson.
I feel like Prince did histhing at the Super Bowl after he
(04:31):
was already established and gotenough.
He could rock a whole stadiumlike that right, and not just a
stadium, but you got the worldwatching and you need to make
sure that the show is universalenough.
You don't have to water it down, but that it's universal enough
.
And I kind of felt like Kendrickdid Kendrick, which a lot of
(04:53):
people might find boring.
I'm one of those that finds ita little boring.
Some people might find itoffensive.
There's a lot of people outthere that don't like the
pro-black thing and they're likeI don't want any of that,
whatever to that.
But for me, man, listen, I'vebeen listening to so much
pro-black music propaganda sinceI was in high school.
(05:16):
I mean, this is what I gotraised on.
Like I know not everybody hasthat experience, right, but I
mean Ice Cube, dead, prez X-Clan, poor Righteous Teachers,
krs-one.
I mean for me, hearing somebodyteach and educate in pro-black,
(05:41):
like unashamed pro-black waysis nothing new, like it's super
old, it's so old that I miss it.
Like they don't even do itanymore, right?
So for me I dig what Kendrick,the angle that he's going at,
but for me it's a little bitpassive-aggressive, right, like
(06:01):
you got to read the signs andtranslate and find the Easter
egg and you know you never haveKendrick explaining it, it's
always his fans explaining itand that's cool.
I know that that's what the newgeneration is on and watching
everybody argue about it.
(06:22):
Nobody's allowed to havedissenting opinions anymore.
I was just thinking.
I was like what drives thiskind of thing?
And one of the things thatstood out to me was humans are
tribal.
Right, we've always been tribal.
That's in our nature from dayone.
(06:43):
Right, we split up and we go intwo different directions and
then we find animosity aboutthose two different directions,
right, like Adam and Eve createdin the garden.
If you believe in that, right,I don't want to start pressing,
like everybody believes that,but Adam and Eve are created in
(07:03):
the garden and immediately theyhave children and two of their
sons go at it Right and one getskilled.
So tribalism is just and evenif you don't believe in that
story, you understand that.
You probably understand orthink that that story is created
for a reason and that is toexemplify the tribalism of man.
(07:26):
So yeah, we've been like thisforever.
Humans are tribal.
I think the thing that I thinkis so interesting now and it's
so hard to get a handle on forall of us, tribalism has
required I don't even know if Iwould require it has always
included physical proximity.
(07:48):
Right, you always had yourtribe right next to you.
Right, even I don't care whatage it was throughout human
history, you could go back toyour tribe and huddle up
together and face any challengetogether.
And I believe right now,specifically, probably right
after you get, right after theyear 2000,.
(08:11):
Right Like maybe post 9-11, youget firmly into the internet
age, right Like whatever thatyou know phase of that, right
Like.
So there was many phases of usgrowing into where we are right
now, phases of us growing intowhere we are right now, tribes
don't exist with physicalproximity anymore.
(08:33):
So our human brain, our animalbrain, is still like.
I need my tribe when things arenot going the way I want, when
there's opposition to me or whatI think.
I want the comfort of my tribearound me so that we can huddle
together and respond Right andit doesn't exist physically
(08:54):
right Like when I was younger inthe 80s.
You know, in the neighborhoodsI lived in in Cleveland you know
if we lived on 79th andSuperior or 89th and Buckeye.
You go about life and RonaldReagan passes some law, or you
watch the news and you see AliNorth and the Iran Contras and
(09:17):
your parents come in and explainstuff to you and next thing you
know you all go to thebarbershop or the beauty shop or
the grocery store or you justgo out on the street and
everybody's talking.
We are collectively finding ourresponse.
You might even walk to thecorner store to get some candy
(09:40):
and cigarettes or play thenumber and you hear the wino
outside the store saying some ofthe wisest stuff you ever heard
intermingled with some of thecraziest stuff you ever heard,
right.
So that thing that washappening, that I'm used to in
the 80s and even maybe in the90s, was physical proximity,
(10:04):
tribalism, us coming together tosay this is not good.
Let's dissect this and see howwe feel we should respond.
We should respond.
Nowadays that response has tohappen through social media and
(10:26):
there's a lot of differentchosen social media platforms.
There's a lot of differentplaces where people might settle
or rest at.
Generations become a bigproblem.
Back in the physical proximitydays, their parents could grab
their kids.
Back in the physical proximitydays, their parents could grab
their kids, tell them to put theNintendo or Atari joystick down
.
We got to talk and everybody'sin it was an adult's world.
Everybody had to huddle up ifthe adult said huddle up.
(10:48):
Now the kids are in a differentsocial media platform than the
adults.
The adults are bouncing aroundFacebook, the adults are on X,
the kids are in TikTok orwherever they might be.
Right, there's difficultyfinding collective tribes.
So now you know, in order towork out your response, you face
(11:14):
newer hurdles wheregenerational gaps become even
bigger.
Right, I know there wasgenerational gaps in our
tribalism response in the past.
Right, specifically, if youlook at something as big as like
the Vietnam War response.
Right, that was, everycommunity was finding their
response to that and there wasgenerational gaps there.
(11:37):
But I think now you just havethis hurdle of generations.
Then you have this mixing.
It's not so much, hey.
Typically if you are tribalwith the people you live around,
then people look like you, theythink like you, they have
common upbringing as you, andnow you have more of the
(11:58):
shuffling of the deck.
You just might be in a certaintribe on your lunch break
talking about politics and beinga whole nother tribe at five
o'clock when you get off workand you start talking on
Facebook with your friends oryou go on a neighborhood website
.
It's different tribes fordifferent concerns, and not
(12:23):
everybody looks like you, noteverybody thinks like you.
Not everybody has that concernfor the same reason.
Not everybody is upset aboutthe removal of DEI for the same
reasons.
Not everybody is anti-DonaldIfor the same reasons.
Not everybody is anti-DonaldTrump for the same reasons, and
it becomes an interestinglandscape to navigate.
(12:47):
So again, this is Jay Floyd oneverything.
Hit up any of my pages and tellme what you think.
I hope this can spark somethought for you.
I hope this you know.
In any way, I think that wehave to find a way to a better
resolution for unity.
(13:08):
I think it's hard to get tounity if you can't satisfy and
overcome our most basic need,which is tribalism or this most
basic desire.
It's tough to overcome thatbecause it doesn't really get
the itch, doesn't get scratchedgood, so people end up spending
(13:31):
a lot of time there and I thinkit kind of becomes a hurdle to
us getting where we need to go.
So yeah, give me some thoughts,man.
That's just what I was thinkingtoday.
Stay, floyd, on everything Ilove.
Y'all Peace.
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