July 28, 2025 • 50 mins
When was the last time you truly disconnected? In a world where screens dominate and demands never cease, finding authentic connection with yourself and the natural world grows increasingly difficult. This episode explores how glamping—that perfect blend of glamour and camping—has emerged as a powerful gateway for women and beginners to discover the transformative effects of outdoor experiences.
Our special guest Brittany shares her perspective on why glamping resonates so deeply with women seeking outdoor adventure without sacrificing comfort. "It creates a safe and accessible entry point into the outdoors," she explains, "bringing together both being in a tent but also having the comfort of home." This isn't about diluting the authentic outdoor experience—it's about creating accessible pathways for more people to discover what nature has to offer.
Beyond the practical aspects, we dive into the profound mental wellness benefits that come from time spent outside. As Brittany beautifully puts it, "One of the rarest sounds that we'll ever get is quiet," highlighting how outdoor experiences allow us to ground ourselves in a way that's increasingly rare in modern life. From fishing adventures to building confidence in new skills, this conversation explores how outdoor activities allow people to shed societal expectations and rediscover their authentic selves.
Ready to take that first step into outdoor adventure? Whether you're considering glamping, fishing, paddleboarding, or simply spending more time under the open sky, this episode offers practical advice and heartfelt encouragement. As Brittany reminds us, "Thinking about doing something takes a lot more effort than actually doing it." Your journey to reconnection and self-discovery might be just one camping trip away.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
How did a small-town sheet metal mechanic come to
build one of Canada's mosticonic fishing lodges?
I'm your host, steve Nitzwicky,and you'll find out about that
and a whole lot more on theOutdoor Journal Radio Network's
newest podcast, diaries of aLodge Owner.
But this podcast will be morethan that.
Every week on Diaries of aLodge Owner, I'm going to
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introduce you to a ton of greatpeople, share their stories of
our trials, tribulations andinspirations, learn and have
plenty of laughs along the way.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Meanwhile we're sitting there bobbing along
trying to figure out how tocatch a bass and we both decided
one day we were going to be ontelevision doing a fishing show.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
My hands get sore a little bit when I'm reeling in
all those bass in the summertime, but that's might be for more
fishing than it was punching youso confidently you said hey,
pat have you ever eaten a drum?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Find Diaries of a Lodge Owner now on Spotify,
apple podcasts or wherever youget your podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
As the world gets louder and louder, the lessons
of our natural world becomeharder and harder to hear, but
they are still available tothose who know where to listen.
But they are still available tothose who know where to listen.
I'm Jerry Ouellette and I washonoured to serve as Ontario's
Minister of Natural Resources.
However, my journey into thewoods didn't come from politics.
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Rather, it came from my time inthe bush and a mushroom.
In 2015, I was introduced tothe birch-hungry fungus known as
chaga, a tree conch withcenturies of medicinal
applications used by Indigenouspeoples all over the globe.
After nearly a decade ofharvest, use, testimonials and
(01:58):
research, my skepticism hasfaded to obsession and I now
spend my life dedicated toimproving the lives of others
through natural means.
But that's not what the show isabout.
My pursuit of this strangemushroom and my passion for the
outdoors has brought me to theplaces and around the people
that are shaped by our naturalworld.
(02:18):
On Outdoor Journal Radio'sUnder the Canopy podcast, I'm
going to take you along with meto see the places, meet the
people that will help you findyour outdoor passion and help
you live a life close to natureand under the canopy.
So join me today for anothergreat episode and hopefully we
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can inspire a few more people tolive their lives under the
canopy, more people to livetheir lives under the canopy
Well, as always.
We want to thank all thelisteners all around Canada, the
United States, the world,switzerland, ghana, trinidad,
tobago, the friends in theBahamas.
I know we got great listenersout there and, as always, I'm
(03:01):
not going to say it, but if yougot them, ask them questions.
If you want to see it or hearit, find something interesting,
let me know and we'll try and doa show for you.
Now it was the usual morningout.
I was out running with GunnarChocolate Lab and we got a
second flush of reishi mushroomsthat are looking really good.
So next time I'm out, I got tobring my little jackknife and
(03:27):
I'll be harvesting the reishiand then I'll let it dry and be
able to use that.
Plus, I'm seeing all kind ofself-heal, all heal out in the
fields now, so that meansthey're up and they're ready.
The little purple flowers, whichis a great mix.
It comes from the mint flamefamily and makes a good tea and
has a lot of benefits to it aswell, plus the the mullein's up
there, so you want to get themullein and I don't see any
mullein flowers yet.
(03:48):
But when you get mulleinflowers it's great to make a
salve or actually drops out ofthe flowers and what they do is
they take the flowers and thenthey'll use those and they make
great eardrops.
I've never tried it or hadanybody that tells me about it.
But drops I've never tried itor had anybody that tells me
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about it.
But all I read about when themullein is that it's great for
ears.
Not only that, but of coursemullein leaves are a little bit
different in that once they'reharvested they can be made into
a tea or a smudge that peopleuse for lung infections, but all
those sorts of things.
It's just that time of year thatthings are happening out there.
Now we've got something alittle bit different for a show
today.
As you know, we usually haveGarrett, my son, out on quite a
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number of podcasts and this timehe's bringing a guest and
Garrett's going to ask a bunchof questions about a little bit
things different and how theyhappen and what takes place out
there in the outdoors under thecanopy.
So we're going to turn it overto Garrett and I'll get them
going and come on in, come onover, all right.
Well, we've got Garrett out andGarrett is brought his
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girlfriend, brittany.
Well, welcome to the podcast,brittany.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm really excited to chat witheveryone today.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Are you sure you're not too nervous coming out from
Calgary and all that?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
A little bit nervous, but we're here for a good time.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, that's not a problem, Just relax and we'll
get to talk to all kinds ofthings and find out, like some
questions about how we getfemales and women out into the
outdoors and what's a great way,and then I'll kind of let
Garrett bridge some questions.
But there's some otherquestions.
So, brittany, how manyboyfriends did you have before
Garrett?
Zero, I'm kidding, of course.
(05:32):
Anyways, yeah, so we'll talkabout a number of different
things on the sort of the prosand the cons and what inspires
females to get out in theoutdoors and what we can do to
get them, whether it's downhiking the trails or in all
those places.
I mean, we talk quite a fewshows about the oh, the Royal
Botanical Gardens and thingslike that, which is a great way
(05:52):
to get people out, to start itand initiate it.
But you know you've got birdwatching and all the other
things that take place, or wehad individuals on that
specialize and do butterflywatches, monarch butterfly
watches in August and stuff likethat.
So there's a lot ofopportunities.
But, garrett, go ahead.
You got some questions maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, you can run with it.
I want to talk about how do youget females in the outdoors and
, as me and Brittany have grownour relationship together, it's
more about introducing her intothings that I like to do, so
whether it's hiking, fishing,hunting and stuff like that.
So we're here to talk aboutthings about how do you get
women in the outdoors.
So I just want to start andjust pretty much ask you what
(06:32):
was your starting in theoutdoors?
Like, how did you get intoenjoying the outdoors?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Yeah, that's such a great question, garrett.
Thank you so much, and thankyou for everyone for joining in
today.
I'm really excited to chat withall of you.
I think, specifically growingup, my dad was an outdoorsman,
so he really enjoyed fishing andhiking, and camping, especially
, was huge in our family.
But as I got older and moreconversation was happening
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around mental hygiene whether werecognize that verbiage as
mental health or mental wellnesshygiene.
Whether we recognize thatverbiage as mental health or
mental wellness, whatever thatis.
It's so important to be able toget out and ground yourself and
really enjoy the outdoors,enjoy the sunshine.
You know that vitamin D and allthose sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, of course, like I can definitely understand
that for sure, because I know, Iremember stories of my parents
taking me out as a kid andgetting me in the outdoors like
that way.
And now here I am spending xamount of money on fishing gear
that I'm always sad to say howmuch I spend on it well,
christmas time, it helpseveryone it makes for an easy
Christmas list.
You know there's this lure,there's that lure, there's this
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line, there's this cape, baitcaster and everything else.
But um, you know, you mentionedthere about camping and hygiene
stuff.
So it kind of leads me intolike glamping is one of those
things I find is coming more andmore popular of getting people
into the outdoors or into a campor into that scene.
So why do you think glampinghas resonated with women so well
(08:01):
?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
now, Totally Again, just circling back to that piece
around, you know, mentalhygiene, whatever that looks
like.
We're going back to encouragingindividuals to get out and see
beyond their little square thatthey're involved in every day
and you know, learn how to dothese things.
So, specifically, exactly likewhat you had mentioned, garrett,
(08:24):
glamping has exploded inpopularity over the last few
years, especially through socialmedia.
I think what resonates withwomen so much, especially as
they have children and familiesand things like that, is it
creates a safe and accessibleentry point into the outdoors,
where it does bring togetherboth being in a tent but also
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having the comfort of home.
It's cleaner, there's less bugs, you know.
It's a good transitional space.
It's an introductory experience, you know, and it doesn't
involve, you know, being anexperienced hiker or knowing how
to build a fire.
It's more luxurious than that.
It brings the glamour and thecamping together, which is why
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we call it glamping.
And I'm starting to think,going back to your little you
know things about all thefishing pieces that you buy.
I'm thinking we need to do asegment on what to buy your
partner for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean for the outdoorsman person, it's not
hard to shop for them at all.
Um, more or less, there'salways new things coming out.
There's always the latest andgreatest technology.
You know, uh, for fishing folks, uh, live scope was one of the
biggest thing, or the pan opticswas one of the biggest thing
out there that people have uhlearned to adjust and get into
more easier things for fishing,and that's one of the latest and
(09:42):
greatest technologies out there.
But yeah, as you said, likeglamping, though I know like
hygiene is definitely big, as Imyself I am not a female, I'm a
male and I don't have the sameissues or same challenges that a
female might face in theoutdoors.
You know, for most guys it'sespecially when you got to go to
the bathroom or something likethat.
It's just there's a nice treeover there, I'm going to lay up
(10:04):
against and do my business.
But you know, glamping hasbecome more and more popular and
I do understand the hygienesense of it makes more sense.
But there's also people likethe hardcore campers that are
going to say like, pitch a tent,sleep on the ground, you know,
wake up when the sun wakes youup, kind of thing, because
there's no alarm clocks andeverything else.
(10:24):
Do you find that glamping takesaway from that nostalgic of
camping, kind of thing?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Absolutely not.
It definitely depends on whoyou're asking.
I mean, garrett and I had agreat conversation last night
with Jerry in regards todifferent tiers of camping,
whether it be you know you'reout in the lake or not sorry,
not out in the lake, but youhave your own space to camp or
you're side by side with anotherfamily, or you know you go into
that glamping and absolutelynot.
There's different tiers and itall.
(10:55):
The whole point of camping isbeing able to get away and enjoy
yourself and relax, right, andso that is defined very
differently for many differentpeople, I know.
For women, being able to glampmeans a lot because, again,
there's better hygiene, it's alittle bit safer, there's access
to internet, especially if youhave children.
(11:15):
You're able to go out into thewilderness and really be able to
enjoy that, while having all ofthose accessible features to
you, even a working toilet, abathroom, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So yeah, no, and I agree, it definitely is
necessities there that have madeit easier on the family
household to manage, bringeverything else out.
Like I remember, as my kids, orme and my brother were kids,
and my mom and dad would packall this stuff and we're sitting
in the car and then they go ohwe need this and oh we need that
.
And you know, because whenyou're camping, like, you don't
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have that ability to go, oh, weforgot something, let's go pick
it up.
Because when you're out, say inAlgonquin, and you're, uh,
doing a portage kind of thing,you know you don't have it.
You, you don't have it.
Right, you forgot it, that's it, so you gotta without.
But I understand, like camping,the way society is going is that
it's harder for people to spendvast amount of time camping.
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So if you can combine a littlebit of, I want to get in the
outdoors, but I still want to beable to say, if I can work a
little bit on my projects, thatway I can manage my time better.
I understand that it makes iteasier for people to get in the
outdoors, for sure, but do youfind, like the roughing it
though, is that more of theenjoyment of camping, because
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you said when people find whattheir piece or what their stick
is is calming for them.
For example, I like to run thewater before I get in the shower
because it helps calm my nervesdown.
I just enjoy the sound ofrunning water.
You know it's like water on atin roof, like people argue,
like what's one of the bestsounds in nature, or white
noises to fall asleep to.
But I find like the enjoyment isalso like if people like just
having that a cottage on thelake where it's nice and quiet,
(12:53):
and you wake up every morningand all you hear is you know the
birds chirping, or you hear therain and the mist kind of
falling down as everythingslowly starts to dry up from the
rainstorm last night, kind ofthing down as everything slowly
starts to dry up from therainstorm last night, kind of
thing.
Do you think glamping is kindof adding to that or is taking
away from that effect of whatpeople might find is peaceful in
regards to dealing with nature?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah, I think that, again, everyone defines being at
peace in many different ways,right, and it's finding the
balance between having a safespace that's still kind of local
to the city, where you're ableto quickly escape.
We're seeing a lot of companiesstart to do retreats for women
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where it is glamping, gettingthem back into nature and maybe
roughing.
It isn't for them.
I can't speak for all womenwhen it comes to that but you're
still in an environment whereyou can wake up and you're still
hearing the birds and you'restill hearing the rain.
You know all those relaxingthings that you mentioned.
(13:54):
I mean.
Just circling back to theportage part, my goodness, if
you want to prep anyone for agood, authentic camping trip,
get them involved in a goodportage.
I think that was my initiationinto a good camping trip and
that part you potentially domiss in the glamping piece, but
you do still definitely get toexperience all those beautiful
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noises and sounds.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, and you know one thing I find when I go
camping stuff like that, or I gocamping with the guys we've
gone a couple of years now inAlgonquin.
I don't know what it is, butcooking food on a campfire, on
an open flame and just kind ofroughing, guessing it like if
it's done, if it's not done, Idon't know what it is.
But when you take away thattemperature control and that
stuff, you feel a little bitmore like you appreciate the
(14:38):
value of a nice cooked meal,because my gosh, like a fire
cooked anything.
It just seems to be so muchmore better.
So you think you know.
If there's one thing I would sayto people, if you're going
glamping and stuff like that oryou're trying to get in the
outdoors, it's, you know, atleast try and plan to have a
campfire or have some kind ofmeal on the fire, even if it's
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just, you know, hot dogs, or weused to call them spider dogs,
as we would just take and youwould cut the ends and the way
it would curl up.
It looked like a spider kind ofthing.
You know, just make it fun forthe kids as well.
But I don't know.
There's one thing I'd recommendis definitely for people to
enjoy food being cooked on thecampfire, like a shore lunch and
stuff like that is always anostalgic thing when people go
(15:19):
away for you know big timefishing trips there's always the
oh're going to plan a shorelunch on your third day here and
everyone enjoys that andeveryone talks about that the
most because that's where youshare your stories, too, with
other people, right, everyonegets around and you share your
stories about your camping tripsor you know what you did last
week or all the funny thingsthat happened in your life.
Now, is there any like say musthaves, other than say like I
(15:46):
would say you need to bring,like your firewood stuff for the
fire ward because you need tosell that nostalgic.
But is there any likemust-haves that you need for
glamping kind of things, likenecessities, especially as a
woman coming in and being like Istill want to, you know, feel
the safety and comfort, but also, you know, what are those
must-haves that people should bekind of thinking of bringing?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
I just want to mention that Ifeel like we got a little
nostalgic there.
Spider dogs, my goodness.
I think our listeners are goingto have a little smile with all
the nostalgia happening here,my goodness.
Yeah, and you and I had a briefchat about this.
What can even men bring fortheir girlfriends if they want
(16:22):
to bring them out glamping forthe first time and introduce
them to maybe what they enjoydoing?
Some items that they couldbring glamping is a cozy robe, a
good book, one of theirfavorite books, Bluetooth
speakers for music, maybe somelights.
You could even go as far asmaking it a little spa where
you're getting them a face mask,an eye mask and of for those
(16:45):
pesky mosquitoes, some bug spray.
That is a big one for us.
I can't stand mosquitoes.
I was eaten alive as of recent,so that would definitely be
number one on my list, Garrett.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Oh, I could agree.
And we have a dog, belle.
She's a a year and a half nowand she's Doberman and you know
she was out exposed for thefirst time and I definitely bet
if she could talk she would saythese bugs are biting me.
I don't know what to do,because it was always funny when
she would get bit she would,you know, sit down on her bum
because she's always likesomething's touching me, I don't
know what it is, and then shewould run and dash away kind of
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thing, because it was the firsttime being exposed to the flies
and mosquitoes and it's just afunny scene.
But yeah, absolutely Like bugspray, I definitely think is one
of the big things, especiallybecause a lot of people, you
know, want to be comfortable intheir skin.
And you know, one thing that wehave I'm sure my dad's mentioned
several times is Chaga andthere's that Chaga cream which
helps with the anti-inflammatoryof the bug bites, stuff like
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that.
So we've put on a couple ofyour bug bites and it's not like
it works right away, but itdoes help soothe that spot or
soothe the itch a little bit.
Did it help you there withstuff like that?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Totally.
Yeah, it was fantastic, evenwith the sunburn that we were
able to get, just being able toenjoy the weather here in
Ontario.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Absolutely.
Well, you know.
And then there's other things Iwould say too.
For a guy to bring to say toget your partner into the
outdoors, Glamping is a good wayto start, unless you want to
rough it right away.
But if you're going to rough itright away, surprise your girl
with something nice, or partner,or partner, because you know
what, you know how many timeswhen you're trying to do your
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thing and then they get a momentof frustration or irritation
for example bug bites, and itjust throws off your whole day,
you know what your partner coulddo.
Bring them their favorite snack, bring them their favorite
little thing that they enjoy.
Go out of your way and spend alittle extra money to bring that
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special treat.
Be what makes the memory happenthere and what makes it more of
an enjoyable time, because thatsurprise moment will definitely
feel more comforting for them.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Or a favorite blanket , a little nice fuzzy blanket
that they really enjoy by thefire, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, fuzzy, that favorite thing, you know, fuzzy
blanket for sure.
I mean definitely on thosecooler nights, you know people
don't realize it gets hot.
It was like we went on, youknow, going back a little bit
here.
We went on a family trip toEgypt and you know it's stinking
hot there because it's desertsand.
It's Egypt, it's hot, and we'rein T-shirts and shorts and
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we're sweating.
And then the locals there, whenwe were out there on the river,
the guy was brought out aleather jacket when it was like
eight o'clock at night becausethe temperature change went from
, you know, say, 40 to 35, andthat 15 degree temperature
change was enough to justifyit's cold.
So you don't think about it,but it's like during the day
you're going to get hot, duringthe night You're going to feel
that temperature on your skinbeing more colder.
So, yeah, definitely bring asweater, bring a comfy blanket,
bring something that's going tobe cozy and comforting for them,
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because that'll make adifference for your partner for
sure.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah, and dress accordingly, just going exactly
like what you're saying, Garrett.
And to our listeners out Westand Alberta, our heat is very
different than it is out inOntario, isn't it, Garrett?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh, absolutely Like it's a dry heat, wasn't it
Garrett?
Oh, absolutely Like it's, it'sa dry heat.
You know, the guys at work I'mout there working with, they
always make fun of me becausethey're like oh, how are you
still wearing a sweater?
It's, you know, 20 somethingdegrees now and the sun's out
and we're all sweating and I'mlike yeah, but what happens when
it reaches 35 or 30 degrees andwe're still have to?
You know, told to go pack steelall day and you're already at
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your base layer because, like inthe winter time, you can always
keep adding more layers, but inthe summertime you can only
take off until you're like atyour bare skin here and you're
not allowed to go shirtless onthe job sites anymore.
So you got to wear, you know,your long sleeve and your safety
gear and everything else.
So I like wear a sweater,acclimatize my body to adjust
for that temperature, becausepeople are always going, ah,
it's so hot when it's 30.
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But I'm like nah, it's not thatbad now.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
But I feel 30 degrees here is so much worse than 30
degrees back home.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, that's true, because the humidity air and the
thickness in the air isdefinitely different.
In Calgary the air is muchthinner and plus it's also
because you get that mountainbreeze.
You're in the priors there, soyou get more of a direct wind,
where here it's like a littlebit more broken up kind of thing
.
So you do feel a difference forsure.
Even, like you said, even like,for example, going on the coast
and on, say, vancouver, likethey get so much rain there, the
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humidity there has got to bejust as bad as here, I would
think, because we get more likein Ontario, you get more of the
lake effect, weather and climatechange there because of that.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Totally.
And, garrett, you were sayingthat when you're camping or
we're going to the cottage orhaving those experiences, pack
snacks.
What are your favorite snacksthat you like to bring?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I mean I'm a chips and pretzel guy.
I mean Doritos are probablylike one of the go-tos here.
Like, keep it simple.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
What do you think my favorite snack is to bring?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean, I know you like the shower, cherry blasters
.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
I do, definitely a fan favorite.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
If I had to guess something else.
Oh, you know, you surprise me alot of times.
Sometimes you go trail mix,sometimes you feel chips, so
it's like I kind of have to feelwhat you're feeling that week.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You know, you can't just go in just to say, all
right, she's going to want chipsthis week.
Is it a sweet and salty typething?
You got to mix it up.
You got to have options.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You know, you got to have variety, so take note
everyone, bring variety when yougo outdoors.
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Yeah, and how often did you putit on?
I put it on maybe once everyother day.
I didn't remember to do itevery day, so once every other
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Speaker 4 (24:05):
Very good and you had great results and now it feels
like normal skin again.
Very good.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
And you didn't try anything else, so you figure
that's what?
No, that was.
They work, so I'm sticking withthat.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Very good.
Well, thanks, trevor here inMillbrook.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 3 (25:20):
So let's just go touch back on gramping a bit
more here.
Yeah, because the one thing islike yeah, like people, it's
like a good way to get exposedto the outdoors, especially for
women, because it's like you geta little bit comforts of home
but you also get exposed in theoutdoor stuff, you know.
I just want to ask you like, doyou feel glamping still creates
connections, like you knowyou're still connecting to you
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know you're making those stories.
You're making that campingstory, that classic, nostalgic
of going camping with yourfriends and like that.
Do you still feel like glampingallows you to create that
connections and stuff like that?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Oh, a hundred percent .
And that's such a greatquestion, garrett, and you know,
just going back to theconversation around, is glamping
even camping.
What is it?
What is it considered?
And again, it's different,different tiers for for everyone
.
But again, a lot oforganizations are creating
glamping retreats where someplaces have Wi-Fi, other places
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don't have Wi-Fi.
It's away from the city and itallows you to disconnect, turn
your phone off, put it away andenjoy what's right in front of
you outdoors, and it createsconversation.
When you're put into anenvironment where you're almost
forced to talk to the personbeside you, you're having that
social interaction outdoors,enjoying the air and, in my
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opinion, just being more presentand not being so distracted by
the screen that's in front ofyou.
Absolutely, it creates moreconnections, a lot of people
because they're more relaxedwhen they go glamping or camping
or at the cottage, becausethey're more relaxed, I find you
know you'll walk by someone andthey'll say hello, good morning
, and you're creating thoseconnections and I feel like
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sometimes we do lack that here.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, absolutely, and you know, like a story that I
want to share, that kind of likejust reifies like you can
create those connections as wellin different ways.
You know, growing up as a kid,my best friend was Ryan, and we
were neighbors.
We were literally less than aminute walk from each other, and
you know, every day afterschool he's like I'll go to your
house for 10 minutes or we'llgo to my house or we'll we'll do
something together.
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We'll walk to school togetherand stuff.
We'll do something together.
We'll walk, like to schooltogether and stuff.
And so Ryan's mom, jackie, had atrailer just outside of
Coboconk, and one of the thingsthat they did this trailer park,
which is kind of like Lampy,because, you know, you have TV,
you have AC, you have all thisstuff.
But the one thing that wasstill committed as camping,
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though, was we were still werestill like pitching a tarp to
cover the bikes that we ride, orwe would, you know, get the
firewood out and ready to have acampfire at the end of the day,
kind of thing.
But the other thing is thatthat community, though, what
they did was they would havelike events for the kids.
So I remember we had this relayrace and you know I was cause I
was always big of competitionsbecause I play a lot of sports
or anything else.
So I was like, oh, I need towin, need to win.
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So the one thing I did was Idid this relay race, which was
I'll go over here to thisobstacle, come around.
And then you had to eat a donutwith your hands behind your back
and you know it was good.
It was, uh, just powdered.
You know old-fashioned plainpowdered, glazed, uh, donut kind
of thing.
Still remember it surprisingly,but um, it was good at the end
of it.
You know old fashioned, plain,powdered glazed donut kind of
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thing.
Still remember it surprisingly,but it was good at the end of
it.
You know and Jackie goes to saythis to me it's like you know,
it's not about winning here,it's just about having a goofy
silly time and enjoying thelittle activities and just being
together and watching everyoneelse, you know, trip and fall
and bump into each other, andyou know that's one of the
things I would say like you know, that's one of the things I
would say like you can stillenjoy those things while
glamping 100%, and especiallylike as like, say kids, and
bring your kids into it.
It's a good, easy way to easethem into the outdoors as well,
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because it allows you to givestructure and stability that
they know and comfort of home.
But you can ease them intodoing little things Like I
remember one of the things wascutting firewood too.
Mine was just a bit older atthe time because I don't think
any parent would trust their kida little kid for that matter
with an action like that to go,yeah, go chop some wood up, and
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because that's just a recipe fordisaster.
But you know, when I was oldenough and realized, cut wood by
myself.
Here I am still, 15 years later, and I'm still cutting wood now
on more of industrial gradescales.
But it's just those things thatI find that you know, there's
always something in the outdoorsfor people to enjoy.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Definitely.
And you know, garrett, like I'mas girly as they come, you know
, but I also am such a bigtomboy going out into the
outdoors.
You know, ladies, I have mynails, you know, and you know I
don't like getting bit, I don'tlike getting burnt, but you can
always wash the dirt away.
But it's truly the memoriesthat you make while you're
outdoors.
And just circling back toglamping, I think that and I
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think about it more and moreit's so great for young children
as an introductory type thing,because you know just what
Garrett was saying earlier whenyou go camping, you almost have
this infinite list of thingsthat you just don't want to
forget.
But when you go glamping,whoever is organizing it, it's
all there for you.
You got your linens, you gotyour cut wood.
Yes, you may be not beinteracting and roughing it, as
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we want to call it, but you getto go and relax and that's the
whole point.
Everything is taken care of foryou.
You have a special space andyou just don't need to worry.
And that looks different foreverybody, but it's something
that the family can take a breakfrom.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
And and like I said, whenpeople are like, oh, is you know
glamping such a big topic andstuff like that for people
nowadays, it's like I also thinkof, as I remember you know a
lot of stuff as a kid.
It's like, yeah, it was kind ofglamping categories, but you
added things, or my dad or momwould add things of let's rough
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it for this little section here.
Let's expose you to theselittle things.
So eventually, as the kids growup or as your partner gets more
comfortable in the outdoors,eventually they might say to you
hey, let's go on that portagetrip, I want to just pitch a
tent and I want to do this stuff, because you get those stepping
stone building characters fromhey, let's put tarps up to cover
the bikes so they don't get wetin the rain.
(31:12):
Hey, let's go and prep thefirewood so we don't have to do
that stuff.
Hey, let's make sure we have,like, let's do our checklist
when we go and pack all our food.
Is there any else of things thatyou can think of what you want?
You know those steps.
They're all going to be relatedto doing more roughing, kind of
camping style, because you knowyou're going to learn to do
tying knots.
You're going to learn to youknow how much support can a tarp
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hold or a water, like just evencontrolling where you want to
sleep at night because the waterwants to run off you so you're
not in a pool, kind of thing.
So you're on Like these thingsthat you'll learn during those
stepping stones of glamping kindof thing, ultimately leading
into more exposure to theoutdoors.
And you know one thing thatmore exposure, that we did as
well as we went fishing when wewere here and it was nice, we
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caught a lot of bass.
I mean we were just targetingbass, but we caught a lot.
We probably caught, I'd say,between the both of us, over 50
or so, 100%.
I mean they're not trophy bass,people, they are like I mean, I
thought I had a good trophybass.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I outfished Garrett in his own spot, you guys.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, she did.
She probably caught about a,maybe close to a two pounder,
and I think my best is maybe aone pounder kind of thing.
So but no, like it's definitely.
Like you said, you build upthose things and go fishing.
So one thing I would like tosay is after glamping, what's
that next little step?
Or what's that next little addthing?
Because I hear paddleboardingis one of those hot topics now
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too, because you know, betweensaying taking canoes out or
paddleboard or kayak kind ofthing, you know especially,
let's go back to saying how doyou get your partner or more
women involved?
you know, yeah, do you want tocarry a canoe through the bush?
Or would you want to carry aninflatable paddleboard and go
out in the lake, kind of thing?
You know what's that nextexposure that people would use
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to get you know a little bitmore in the outdoors.
So, like the next thing is, youknow, going from the beach and
now going on the water.
What would you say would be agood option there?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, absolutely, that's such a good question and,
again, it all depends on whoyou ask.
Paddleboarding is fantastic outWest.
All everyone does ispaddleboard.
You know, a man might want tocarry that canoe where a female
will carry the, you know, thepaddleboard or whichever I mean.
Even for me, I would like tocarry an inflatable paddleboard
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because I don't want to carrythe whole thing.
But in terms of next steps,absolutely, after glamping, you
can definitely try just roughingit and doing the regular
camping.
I think one thing that I wantto note for everyone is that,
yes, camping is relaxing.
The fresh air, oh my goodness.
The sleep that you get outsideis wonderful, but learning how
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to?
There's no gender rolesassigned to learning how to
survive.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Right, oh, absolutely .
Because, like you know,everyone's got to do it or
everyone has to be exposed to it, because you never know what's
going to happen or take place.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Learn how to fish, learn how to tie those knots,
learn how to start a fire.
It's just, even if you don'tuse it, it's really good to know
, and so I think that doing thatthe roughing at camping after
doing a glamping experiencewould be the best thing
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Now I know you're not a big fan of kayaking.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Oh dear.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Now, if you were to say you know fears that people
have with certain things, I knowyou.
I mean, maybe I'll let you sayit, but like, what's your fear
with kayaking and why would yoube leaning towards a different
thing?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah, okay.
So just so everyone knows, Ihave experienced paddle boarding
.
I have experience with canoeing, I've done the portaging ever
since I was a kid but I have areally odd fear of big bodies of
water.
But I have a really odd fear ofbig bodies of water and I fear
that if I go kayaking and itflips upside down, I am not
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going to recover from that, I'mgoing to panic and I won't be
able to flip back over Garrett.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And that's a fair statement to have, because I
remember going back on, say, agrade eight grad trip and one of
the things that they did thereonly myself did, because I was
exposed to it was they saidwe're going to go kayaking and
you can go on the big ones thatare designed not to flip because
they just have the side thingout so you're more stabilized.
But I went in the single onebecause I've been used to it and
they did.
So the instructor there, whatthey did is they did a
demonstration of how do you flipa kayak and flip back over, and
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it was that simple exposurethat makes it more comfortable.
So I was going to say somethinghere is that you know people
getting into it.
Go to those camping facilities,go to those campgrounds that
have these activities for kidsand stuff like that, because
they will teach you and exposeyou.
It's not a scary thing, becauseyou're just most of the time
being scared because you'venever done it before.
(35:56):
You know, like I, we've talkedabout going skydiving, for
example.
You know, obviously it's ascary thing, but I'm like how
many people have done itnowadays?
And I'm like, oh, I could do itfor sure, no problem.
But like, just taking thatinitial step and seeing that's
safe is one of the biggestthings.
And I was going to say likelittle activities that you can
do to help build confidence inpeople.
(36:17):
Oh gosh, is taking them to likea ropes course.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
You know, for example , treetop trekking is big.
We're in Ontario here now andthey've been around for, I think
, a few years.
But that's one of the thingswhere you learn to trust your
equipment.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
trust your abilities, trust yourself, Like you
realize it's like you know, hey,that safety line rope you know,
go test it.
You know, Like, cause they doit like that.
They have the little smallstepping stones there where they
make you be comfortable in yourequipment.
Yeah, so I feel like that's oneof the good thing for people to
do is expose themselves tothese little things, to build
that confidence to do stuff.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
And I love the topic around building the confidence.
That's huge.
I think I'm just going to speakfor women here, you know, or
men too, when it comes to theirvanity.
We are really taught.
I know I was just saying toGarrett's mom last night that I
feel like I have been told bythe beauty community that if I
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don't put black goop on myeyelashes I am not pretty.
And I think outdoors reallyhelps build your confidence and
it's all about the art ofletting go.
Truly.
You're not gonna have thatmakeup, you're going to be
yourself and, as women, buildingfeminine confidence without
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makeup or without our high heelslike that's a power and really
being able to sit with yourself,whether, again, whether you're
female, male or however youidentify.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's one of the best practices and being in
nature oh, absolutely, and youjust touched on like a really
golden topic there too, is thatwhen you're camping, you don't
need to focus on impressingother people.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Like who are you trying to impress when?
you're camping, I think of it aslike you don't need your makeup
kit, you don't need this stuff,because it's like it's just you
and your partner or you andyour close friends, kind of
thing, and it's like, you know,just be yourself, like don't
have to worry about the worldaround you.
What they think is because youare alone, you're isolated and
you have the ability and time tojust reconnect with yourself
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and feel good for yourself, notfeeling that they have to feel
good for others, put on yourbest shirt, kind of thing.
It's no, you're feeling what'scomfortable for you.
So bring your comfy clothes,bring that raggedy old t-shirt
that you know, for some reasonyou still has holes in it but it
still gives you comfort to weararound.
You know, like that's.
I still have a bunch of thoseand, mind you, a lot of them are
all nostalgic.
You know stuff now it's like,oh, I was here for this
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tournament or oh, I was, Iplayed team Ontario rugby and we
did a West Coast tournament.
So I have all the stuff therewhen I was playing.
I'm like those are just comfyshirts that I still have that
are full of holes now, butthey're just.
It's just that comfinessbecause, like I'm, not trying to
impress people.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
I can wear my junky clothes, you know.
I think we forget how to be whowe are.
Honestly, we are.
So, you know, for the peoplethat work nine to five or 12
hours like Garrett, you know,every day we are so involved in
the hustle and bustle and we'resurrounded by social media,
influenced by our colleagues,influenced by anything.
Do we ever really have time tosit and just be with ourselves?
(39:22):
You know what I mean.
Even when we go home, maybe adoom scroll for a couple hours
on social media, and we'refinding this time where it's
happening so much that peopleare so unhappy with their own
lives.
I think camping or glamping orgoing to the cottage or however
you like to spend time outsidegives you the opportunity to be
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your authentic self, whateverthat looks like, with no
judgment, and that is amazing.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Oh, absolutely, and you know, one of the things I
think of too, is that you know,I ran a half marathon just the
other day and my legs werecompletely shot and people could
tell this is my first time andI had zero training.
I'm going to use that as myexcuse.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
But why did you run the half marathon, Garrett?
Everyone needs to know.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Well, I mean, people were listening before, but they
know, I ran the half marathonbecause I lost my fantasy
football league and thepunishment was to run a half
marathon and I ran in a footballjersey of course.
So I did it, did it in two hoursand 34 minutes, which was great
.
But you know, something thatwas like I just kind of
connected there is, like yourealize, it's like I put myself
in a situation or an area that Iwasn't comfortable in.
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I am not a runner, you know, ifpeople saw me on the street,
they're like this guy's a powerlifter.
And you know, I was up at thecollege because we were fixing a
beam up there and the guy thatwas helping us out was like you
ran a marathon.
You look like the guy that'd bedoing like the cable toss and
the Scottish games and stufflike that.
So, and I was like, but thething that I was out of my
element, and people that wererunning that you could tell that
(40:50):
they were runners um, they weregiving me high fives, they were
cheering me on, they were likeyou know, keep going.
Like you know, you see me likeyou're sweating.
Well, I mean, I can take theheat, but like you're seeing me
sweating, you're struggling andyou know, like running is not my
stick, but they're, they'repeople that are supporting me
and making me comfortable in myown skin, in my own abilities,
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and the same thing goes whenyou're outside and camping, for
example, hiking, you know howmany people on the hiking trail
especially say we're in Calgaryand Banff and the mountains
there, you know, look at you andsay, hey, how's it going, how's
your day?
You guys are doing so good,you're already halfway up, kind
of thing.
They give you that motivation.
And because people are, justbecause the only thing you're
trying to impress is yourself-abilities.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
You know what the best way I can compare it to is.
When you want to go to the gymfor the first time, you feel
uncomfortable, but everyone atthe gym no one's judging you,
they've been there, they're justdoing their own thing.
That's the best way I cancompare it to.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
A golden example there.
Right, it's just yeah, you'rein an uncomfortable situation
and you just take that firststep and people are there most
of the time, are going to tryand say help you, or they're
going to look over theirshoulder and be like, oh, do you
need a spot to get that lastrep, and kind of thing.
It's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
It's like put yourself in the uncomfortable
situation and just do it foryourself yeah, you know, and we
forget to do that a lot oh,absolutely a lot of things do
get in the way of that, I think,when it comes to glamping, when
you it, if it's your first timeor if you've done it before,
share your experience, bring afriend, do it, or your partner,
or go by yourself, whatever youneed.
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Take that time to not stop, butpause and enjoy what's around
you and what you bring to thetable.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, it's like.
It's like holding the fish forthe first time too.
You know I remember, um, so wewere there with my brother and
his uh, his partner Casey, andyou know Casey was like, oh, I
can do this because he'swatching us do it and I, you
know he didn't realize it, buton the back side of a bass they
have their, their dorsal fin,which has very sharp spikes on
the top of it and that's theirdefense thing.
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So if you hold it from the topand they twitch and flinch and
everything else, you're gonnaget cut.
Like I got cut and I've pulledthe fish like thousands of times
now.
But you know she didn't noticeuntil I told her I'm like, hey,
grab it from the belly or putyour thumb in its mouth, because
they don't really have theylike, just like little soft
barbs.
They don't only have like teeth, they're not going to be.
You can do that with the bass,right, and once you learn how to
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hold that, you feel morecomfortable doing it and it's
like, hey, you're able to takethe hook out for yourself.
You know same kind of concepts.
Like you know, going fishingfor yourself for the first time,
it's like I don't want to touchit.
How do you take the hook outRight?
Like you need someone to showyou I flipped over.
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I'm like you know.
Do you need a hand with thisone?
Speaker 5 (43:34):
you're like nope, I got it I'm good, you're good.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, right, other than when it was deep and you
need pliers, because it's like Iget it.
It's.
You know if, if you're not usedto do like working with pliers
and everything else, it gets alittle bit challenging.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
But yeah, nailed it, you crushed it the only thing I
was missing was the bobber.
You enjoy seeing that bobber.
You enjoy seeing that bobber gointo the water and enjoy that
action.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
That's exciting, yeah Well we're up, we're up in,
like the corth is there and if Idon't fish with a bobber,
because you know, I've fished along time and I realized if
people want to catch bass andyou're taking your kid out for
the first time, use the wackyrig, which is what, which is
what I put on for her.
It doesn't have a bobber.
You can put a bobber on it ifyou want.
But the Wacky Rig is one ofthose things where you don't
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really have to think of how toreel it in, how to work the bait
.
You kind of cast it out, forgetit.
You know, you give it a minuteor two and you're like, oh, I
haven't reeled in.
So you reel it in tight andthen you let it sink again and
it's effective Like we caughtover 50 bass.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Oh, gosh, yeah.
And the fish were happy thatday.
Oh my goodness, they wereflopping around.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
I've never seen somebody like bass jump out of
the water.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
They were putting a frenzy on for feeding, but I'm
just like.
This is the first time I eversaw that.
I know so.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
That was fantastic.
I think we had a great time wewere and being together.
You know, Garrett and I havealmost been together for about
two years now, which is amazingall within itself.
We've had so many adventurestogether, but we haven't gone
fishing and we did it.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, we did it, and it was one of those things where
I'm obsessed with fishing, aspeople probably know, and, yeah,
it was one of those things thatwas really nice to be able to
finally do that together.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Yeah, I that together , yeah, so I think we got a lot
of outdoor activities toaccomplish together.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Still, Well, I think we definitely do like that
portaging trip.
We got a plan.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Oh gosh, well, all right.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Maybe we'll just go camping first.
I'll carry the lighter stuff,fair enough, well, um, no.
Well, since we're kind ofwrapping up here, I guess, is
there anything else that youthink that you could say to to
to get women out in the outdoors?
It's, like you know, liketaking that first step, putting
yourself out in a differentcomfort zone, kind of thing.
You know, is there anythingelse that you can say or add as
like a final statement here tosay to people, like you know, is
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it scary, is it not scary?
Like what's going to get themto be, help them, kind of
process this.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Yeah, fantastic question, garrett.
I think thinking about doingsomething takes a lot more
effort than actually doing it.
It causes more stress tooverthink it than it does to
actually do it.
And, regardless if it's campingor not, I always encourage
everyone to do something thatallows them to be out of their
comfort zone.
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It allows you to becomeconfident, it allows you to you
know, prove to yourself that youcan actually do it.
And I think, when it comes toglamping, ladies you know, or
men who haven't done it before,definitely get outside and do be
in nature, enjoy the fresh airand the sleep that you get, and
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listening to the birds.
Enjoy the fresh air and thesleep that you get and listening
to the birds One of the rarestsounds that we'll ever get is
quiet, and being able to groundyourself outdoors really heals
the nervous system and whatevercapacity that looks like for you
.
Whether it's one night or aweek, I encourage you to do it.
Spend some time outdoors, getthat hike in, get a walk in,
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because you deserve peace andyou deserve mental wellness.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Like, really well said there.
Like you know, take that littlestep, baby steps.
You know small things, Likeyou'll work up to the big step
eventually.
But don't be shy becausesomeone's already at the level
of expert or experienced thereyou know, think of like me and
my brother, for example.
I always use this example is mydad told me once that, you know
, Josh is two years older thanme, so he's got two more years
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of growth and development for meto do the same thing.
Because I'd always fall walkingacross the logs, on a downed
log, across the pond or a riveror something, and I would slip
and fall, but my brother would,he would go across, and I would
slip and fall, but my brotherwould, he would go across, and I
would get frustrated Like howcome I can't go across?
You know, just because someonehas more experience doesn't mean
I won't get to that level too.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
Right, right, and that goes for anything.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
So, yeah, it's a little bit uncomfortable at
first.
You might have a couple ofbumps along the way but you
don't have a.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
You know a friend, I know.
When I moved to alberta twoyears ago I'm from ontario
originally as well I didn't haveanyone.
So join a facebook group, getsome information, collect what
you need before you, you know,take action.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Facebook groups are fantastic yeah, especially even
for, like, the local areas.
You know, like I celebrate allthe time like I am a part of a
couple of fishing groups outhere, because there's always
some person for example, icefishing groups, they're gonna,
are going to hey, I'm checkingthe ice, you know we got three
inches, or oh, we got two inchesnot quite safe, yet you know
it's that, that local or thatexperience that you're going to
get.
So when you're out in Calgaryor Banff, it's like find a group
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out there or find a groupwherever you're from, get the
information, because informationis, you know, knowledge is
power Absolutely.
So if you're in the know, youfeel better about things.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
Knowledge is power is such an amazing thing and if
you're going to glamp or gofishing or do any of these
fantastic outdoor activities,you know emailing in and asking
questions to Jerry.
I'm sure he will absolutelylove to help and, you know,
provide you a list.
Maybe we need to work on thatand get that published together.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
We can do that for sure.
Well, I think we're going towrap it up here.
Folks, thank you for listening.
As always, I know my dad'salways looking.
If people have any questions orneed any information, always
feel free to reach out.
And you know, brittany, thankyou for joining the show.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
And everyone, wishing you all the best of luck here.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Take care everyone.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
All right.
Well, thanks very much,brittany and Garrett.
We really appreciate you takingthe time and bringing a
different perspective to what'shappening out there and how to
get people involved and moreinvolved with a lot of things
out there under the canopy.
And, as always, any questions,comments, let us know.
We'll do what we can.
Have a great week.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Hi everybody.
I'm Angelo Viola and I'm'm PeteBowman.
Now you might know us as thehosts of Canada's Favorite
Fishing Show, but now we'rehosting a podcast.
That's right.
Every Thursday, angelo will beright here in your ears bringing
you a brand new episode ofOutdoor Journal Radio.
Now, what are we going to talkabout for two hours every week?
Well, you know, there's goingto be a lot of fishing.
Speaker 6 (50:09):
I knew exactly where those fish were going to be and
how to catch them, and they wereeasy to catch, yeah but it's
not just a fishing show.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
We're going to be talking to people from all
facets of the outdoors, fromathletes, All the other guys
would go golfing Me and Garthand Turk and all the Russians
would go fishing.
Speaker 8 (50:26):
To scientists, but now that we're reforesting and
laying things free, it's theperfect transmission environment
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Speaker 7 (50:33):
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Speaker 2 (50:40):
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Outdoor Journal Radio seeks toanswer the questions and tell
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How did a small-town sheet metal mechanic come to
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I'm your host, steve Nitzwicky,and you'll find out about that
and a whole lot more on theOutdoor Journal Radio Network's
newest podcast, diaries of aLodge Owner.
But this podcast will be morethan that.
Every week on Diaries of aLodge Owner, I'm going to
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introduce you to a ton of greatpeople, share their stories of
our trials, tribulations andinspirations, learn and have
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Meanwhile we're sitting there bobbing along
trying to figure out how tocatch a bass and we both decided
one day we were going to be ontelevision doing a fishing show.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
My hands get sore a little bit when I'm reeling in
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pat have you ever eaten a drum?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
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As the world gets louder and louder, the lessons
of our natural world becomeharder and harder to hear, but
they are still available tothose who know where to listen.
But they are still available tothose who know where to listen.
I'm Jerry Ouellette and I washonoured to serve as Ontario's
Minister of Natural Resources.
However, my journey into thewoods didn't come from politics.
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Rather, it came from my time inthe bush and a mushroom.
In 2015, I was introduced tothe birch-hungry fungus known as
chaga, a tree conch withcenturies of medicinal
applications used by Indigenouspeoples all over the globe.
After nearly a decade ofharvest, use, testimonials and
(01:58):
research, my skepticism hasfaded to obsession and I now
spend my life dedicated toimproving the lives of others
through natural means.
But that's not what the show isabout.
My pursuit of this strangemushroom and my passion for the
outdoors has brought me to theplaces and around the people
that are shaped by our naturalworld.
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On Outdoor Journal Radio'sUnder the Canopy podcast, I'm
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people that will help you findyour outdoor passion and help
you live a life close to natureand under the canopy.
So join me today for anothergreat episode and hopefully we
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can inspire a few more people tolive their lives under the
canopy, more people to livetheir lives under the canopy
Well, as always.
We want to thank all thelisteners all around Canada, the
United States, the world,switzerland, ghana, trinidad,
tobago, the friends in theBahamas.
I know we got great listenersout there and, as always, I'm
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not going to say it, but if yougot them, ask them questions.
If you want to see it or hearit, find something interesting,
let me know and we'll try and doa show for you.
Now it was the usual morningout.
I was out running with GunnarChocolate Lab and we got a
second flush of reishi mushroomsthat are looking really good.
So next time I'm out, I got tobring my little jackknife and
(03:27):
I'll be harvesting the reishiand then I'll let it dry and be
able to use that.
Plus, I'm seeing all kind ofself-heal, all heal out in the
fields now, so that meansthey're up and they're ready.
The little purple flowers, whichis a great mix.
It comes from the mint flamefamily and makes a good tea and
has a lot of benefits to it aswell, plus the the mullein's up
there, so you want to get themullein and I don't see any
mullein flowers yet.
(03:48):
But when you get mulleinflowers it's great to make a
salve or actually drops out ofthe flowers and what they do is
they take the flowers and thenthey'll use those and they make
great eardrops.
I've never tried it or hadanybody that tells me about it.
But drops I've never tried itor had anybody that tells me
(04:11):
about it.
But all I read about when themullein is that it's great for
ears.
Not only that, but of coursemullein leaves are a little bit
different in that once they'reharvested they can be made into
a tea or a smudge that peopleuse for lung infections, but all
those sorts of things.
It's just that time of year thatthings are happening out there.
Now we've got something alittle bit different for a show
today.
As you know, we usually haveGarrett, my son, out on quite a
(04:31):
number of podcasts and this timehe's bringing a guest and
Garrett's going to ask a bunchof questions about a little bit
things different and how theyhappen and what takes place out
there in the outdoors under thecanopy.
So we're going to turn it overto Garrett and I'll get them
going and come on in, come onover, all right.
Well, we've got Garrett out andGarrett is brought his
(04:56):
girlfriend, brittany.
Well, welcome to the podcast,brittany.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm really excited to chat witheveryone today.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Are you sure you're not too nervous coming out from
Calgary and all that?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
A little bit nervous, but we're here for a good time.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, that's not a problem, Just relax and we'll
get to talk to all kinds ofthings and find out, like some
questions about how we getfemales and women out into the
outdoors and what's a great way,and then I'll kind of let
Garrett bridge some questions.
But there's some otherquestions.
So, brittany, how manyboyfriends did you have before
Garrett?
Zero, I'm kidding, of course.
(05:32):
Anyways, yeah, so we'll talkabout a number of different
things on the sort of the prosand the cons and what inspires
females to get out in theoutdoors and what we can do to
get them, whether it's downhiking the trails or in all
those places.
I mean, we talk quite a fewshows about the oh, the Royal
Botanical Gardens and thingslike that, which is a great way
(05:52):
to get people out, to start itand initiate it.
But you know you've got birdwatching and all the other
things that take place, or wehad individuals on that
specialize and do butterflywatches, monarch butterfly
watches in August and stuff likethat.
So there's a lot ofopportunities.
But, garrett, go ahead.
You got some questions maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, you can run with it.
I want to talk about how do youget females in the outdoors and
, as me and Brittany have grownour relationship together, it's
more about introducing her intothings that I like to do, so
whether it's hiking, fishing,hunting and stuff like that.
So we're here to talk aboutthings about how do you get
women in the outdoors.
So I just want to start andjust pretty much ask you what
(06:32):
was your starting in theoutdoors?
Like, how did you get intoenjoying the outdoors?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Yeah, that's such a great question, garrett.
Thank you so much, and thankyou for everyone for joining in
today.
I'm really excited to chat withall of you.
I think, specifically growingup, my dad was an outdoorsman,
so he really enjoyed fishing andhiking, and camping, especially
, was huge in our family.
But as I got older and moreconversation was happening
(06:59):
around mental hygiene whether werecognize that verbiage as
mental health or mental wellnesshygiene.
Whether we recognize thatverbiage as mental health or
mental wellness, whatever thatis.
It's so important to be able toget out and ground yourself and
really enjoy the outdoors,enjoy the sunshine.
You know that vitamin D and allthose sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, of course, like I can definitely understand
that for sure, because I know, Iremember stories of my parents
taking me out as a kid andgetting me in the outdoors like
that way.
And now here I am spending xamount of money on fishing gear
that I'm always sad to say howmuch I spend on it well,
christmas time, it helpseveryone it makes for an easy
Christmas list.
You know there's this lure,there's that lure, there's this
(07:37):
line, there's this cape, baitcaster and everything else.
But um, you know, you mentionedthere about camping and hygiene
stuff.
So it kind of leads me intolike glamping is one of those
things I find is coming more andmore popular of getting people
into the outdoors or into a campor into that scene.
So why do you think glampinghas resonated with women so well
(08:01):
?
Speaker 5 (08:01):
now, Totally Again, just circling back to that piece
around, you know, mentalhygiene, whatever that looks
like.
We're going back to encouragingindividuals to get out and see
beyond their little square thatthey're involved in every day
and you know, learn how to dothese things.
So, specifically, exactly likewhat you had mentioned, garrett,
(08:24):
glamping has exploded inpopularity over the last few
years, especially through socialmedia.
I think what resonates withwomen so much, especially as
they have children and familiesand things like that, is it
creates a safe and accessibleentry point into the outdoors,
where it does bring togetherboth being in a tent but also
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having the comfort of home.
It's cleaner, there's less bugs, you know.
It's a good transitional space.
It's an introductory experience, you know, and it doesn't
involve, you know, being anexperienced hiker or knowing how
to build a fire.
It's more luxurious than that.
It brings the glamour and thecamping together, which is why
(09:08):
we call it glamping.
And I'm starting to think,going back to your little you
know things about all thefishing pieces that you buy.
I'm thinking we need to do asegment on what to buy your
partner for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean for the outdoorsman person, it's not
hard to shop for them at all.
Um, more or less, there'salways new things coming out.
There's always the latest andgreatest technology.
You know, uh, for fishing folks, uh, live scope was one of the
biggest thing, or the pan opticswas one of the biggest thing
out there that people have uhlearned to adjust and get into
more easier things for fishing,and that's one of the latest and
(09:42):
greatest technologies out there.
But yeah, as you said, likeglamping, though I know like
hygiene is definitely big, as Imyself I am not a female, I'm a
male and I don't have the sameissues or same challenges that a
female might face in theoutdoors.
You know, for most guys it'sespecially when you got to go to
the bathroom or something likethat.
It's just there's a nice treeover there, I'm going to lay up
(10:04):
against and do my business.
But you know, glamping hasbecome more and more popular and
I do understand the hygienesense of it makes more sense.
But there's also people likethe hardcore campers that are
going to say like, pitch a tent,sleep on the ground, you know,
wake up when the sun wakes youup, kind of thing, because
there's no alarm clocks andeverything else.
(10:24):
Do you find that glamping takesaway from that nostalgic of
camping, kind of thing?
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Absolutely not.
It definitely depends on whoyou're asking.
I mean, garrett and I had agreat conversation last night
with Jerry in regards todifferent tiers of camping,
whether it be you know you'reout in the lake or not sorry,
not out in the lake, but youhave your own space to camp or
you're side by side with anotherfamily, or you know you go into
that glamping and absolutelynot.
There's different tiers and itall.
(10:55):
The whole point of camping isbeing able to get away and enjoy
yourself and relax, right, andso that is defined very
differently for many differentpeople, I know.
For women, being able to glampmeans a lot because, again,
there's better hygiene, it's alittle bit safer, there's access
to internet, especially if youhave children.
(11:15):
You're able to go out into thewilderness and really be able to
enjoy that, while having all ofthose accessible features to
you, even a working toilet, abathroom, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So yeah, no, and I agree, it definitely is
necessities there that have madeit easier on the family
household to manage, bringeverything else out.
Like I remember, as my kids, orme and my brother were kids,
and my mom and dad would packall this stuff and we're sitting
in the car and then they go ohwe need this and oh we need that
.
And you know, because whenyou're camping, like, you don't
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have that ability to go, oh, weforgot something, let's go pick
it up.
Because when you're out, say inAlgonquin, and you're, uh,
doing a portage kind of thing,you know you don't have it.
You, you don't have it.
Right, you forgot it, that's it, so you gotta without.
But I understand, like camping,the way society is going is that
it's harder for people to spendvast amount of time camping.
(12:09):
So if you can combine a littlebit of, I want to get in the
outdoors, but I still want to beable to say, if I can work a
little bit on my projects, thatway I can manage my time better.
I understand that it makes iteasier for people to get in the
outdoors, for sure, but do youfind, like the roughing it
though, is that more of theenjoyment of camping, because
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you said when people find whattheir piece or what their stick
is is calming for them.
For example, I like to run thewater before I get in the shower
because it helps calm my nervesdown.
I just enjoy the sound ofrunning water.
You know it's like water on atin roof, like people argue,
like what's one of the bestsounds in nature, or white
noises to fall asleep to.
But I find like the enjoyment isalso like if people like just
having that a cottage on thelake where it's nice and quiet,
(12:53):
and you wake up every morningand all you hear is you know the
birds chirping, or you hear therain and the mist kind of
falling down as everythingslowly starts to dry up from the
rainstorm last night, kind ofthing down as everything slowly
starts to dry up from therainstorm last night, kind of
thing.
Do you think glamping is kindof adding to that or is taking
away from that effect of whatpeople might find is peaceful in
regards to dealing with nature?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yeah, I think that, again, everyone defines being at
peace in many different ways,right, and it's finding the
balance between having a safespace that's still kind of local
to the city, where you're ableto quickly escape.
We're seeing a lot of companiesstart to do retreats for women
(13:34):
where it is glamping, gettingthem back into nature and maybe
roughing.
It isn't for them.
I can't speak for all womenwhen it comes to that but you're
still in an environment whereyou can wake up and you're still
hearing the birds and you'restill hearing the rain.
You know all those relaxingthings that you mentioned.
(13:54):
I mean.
Just circling back to theportage part, my goodness, if
you want to prep anyone for agood, authentic camping trip,
get them involved in a goodportage.
I think that was my initiationinto a good camping trip and
that part you potentially domiss in the glamping piece, but
you do still definitely get toexperience all those beautiful
(14:16):
noises and sounds.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, and you know one thing I find when I go
camping stuff like that, or I gocamping with the guys we've
gone a couple of years now inAlgonquin.
I don't know what it is, butcooking food on a campfire, on
an open flame and just kind ofroughing, guessing it like if
it's done, if it's not done, Idon't know what it is.
But when you take away thattemperature control and that
stuff, you feel a little bitmore like you appreciate the
(14:38):
value of a nice cooked meal,because my gosh, like a fire
cooked anything.
It just seems to be so muchmore better.
So you think you know.
If there's one thing I would sayto people, if you're going
glamping and stuff like that oryou're trying to get in the
outdoors, it's, you know, atleast try and plan to have a
campfire or have some kind ofmeal on the fire, even if it's
(14:58):
just, you know, hot dogs, or weused to call them spider dogs,
as we would just take and youwould cut the ends and the way
it would curl up.
It looked like a spider kind ofthing.
You know, just make it fun forthe kids as well.
But I don't know.
There's one thing I'd recommendis definitely for people to
enjoy food being cooked on thecampfire, like a shore lunch and
stuff like that is always anostalgic thing when people go
(15:19):
away for you know big timefishing trips there's always the
oh're going to plan a shorelunch on your third day here and
everyone enjoys that andeveryone talks about that the
most because that's where youshare your stories, too, with
other people, right, everyonegets around and you share your
stories about your camping tripsor you know what you did last
week or all the funny thingsthat happened in your life.
Now, is there any like say musthaves, other than say like I
(15:46):
would say you need to bring,like your firewood stuff for the
fire ward because you need tosell that nostalgic.
But is there any likemust-haves that you need for
glamping kind of things, likenecessities, especially as a
woman coming in and being like Istill want to, you know, feel
the safety and comfort, but also, you know, what are those
must-haves that people should bekind of thinking of bringing?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
I just want to mention that Ifeel like we got a little
nostalgic there.
Spider dogs, my goodness.
I think our listeners are goingto have a little smile with all
the nostalgia happening here,my goodness.
Yeah, and you and I had a briefchat about this.
What can even men bring fortheir girlfriends if they want
(16:22):
to bring them out glamping forthe first time and introduce
them to maybe what they enjoydoing?
Some items that they couldbring glamping is a cozy robe, a
good book, one of theirfavorite books, Bluetooth
speakers for music, maybe somelights.
You could even go as far asmaking it a little spa where
you're getting them a face mask,an eye mask and of for those
(16:45):
pesky mosquitoes, some bug spray.
That is a big one for us.
I can't stand mosquitoes.
I was eaten alive as of recent,so that would definitely be
number one on my list, Garrett.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Oh, I could agree.
And we have a dog, belle.
She's a a year and a half nowand she's Doberman and you know
she was out exposed for thefirst time and I definitely bet
if she could talk she would saythese bugs are biting me.
I don't know what to do,because it was always funny when
she would get bit she would,you know, sit down on her bum
because she's always likesomething's touching me, I don't
know what it is, and then shewould run and dash away kind of
(17:18):
thing, because it was the firsttime being exposed to the flies
and mosquitoes and it's just afunny scene.
But yeah, absolutely Like bugspray, I definitely think is one
of the big things, especiallybecause a lot of people, you
know, want to be comfortable intheir skin.
And you know, one thing that wehave I'm sure my dad's mentioned
several times is Chaga andthere's that Chaga cream which
helps with the anti-inflammatoryof the bug bites, stuff like
(17:40):
that.
So we've put on a couple ofyour bug bites and it's not like
it works right away, but itdoes help soothe that spot or
soothe the itch a little bit.
Did it help you there withstuff like that?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Totally.
Yeah, it was fantastic, evenwith the sunburn that we were
able to get, just being able toenjoy the weather here in
Ontario.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Absolutely.
Well, you know.
And then there's other things Iwould say too.
For a guy to bring to say toget your partner into the
outdoors, Glamping is a good wayto start, unless you want to
rough it right away.
But if you're going to rough itright away, surprise your girl
with something nice, or partner,or partner, because you know
what, you know how many timeswhen you're trying to do your
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thing and then they get a momentof frustration or irritation
for example bug bites, and itjust throws off your whole day,
you know what your partner coulddo.
Bring them their favorite snack, bring them their favorite
little thing that they enjoy.
Go out of your way and spend alittle extra money to bring that
(18:50):
special treat.
Be what makes the memory happenthere and what makes it more of
an enjoyable time, because thatsurprise moment will definitely
feel more comforting for them.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Or a favorite blanket , a little nice fuzzy blanket
that they really enjoy by thefire, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, fuzzy, that favorite thing, you know, fuzzy
blanket for sure.
I mean definitely on thosecooler nights, you know people
don't realize it gets hot.
It was like we went on, youknow, going back a little bit
here.
We went on a family trip toEgypt and you know it's stinking
hot there because it's desertsand.
It's Egypt, it's hot, and we'rein T-shirts and shorts and
(19:28):
we're sweating.
And then the locals there, whenwe were out there on the river,
the guy was brought out aleather jacket when it was like
eight o'clock at night becausethe temperature change went from
, you know, say, 40 to 35, andthat 15 degree temperature
change was enough to justifyit's cold.
So you don't think about it,but it's like during the day
you're going to get hot, duringthe night You're going to feel
that temperature on your skinbeing more colder.
So, yeah, definitely bring asweater, bring a comfy blanket,
bring something that's going tobe cozy and comforting for them,
(19:49):
because that'll make adifference for your partner for
sure.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah, and dress accordingly, just going exactly
like what you're saying, Garrett.
And to our listeners out Westand Alberta, our heat is very
different than it is out inOntario, isn't it, Garrett?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh, absolutely Like it's a dry heat, wasn't it
Garrett?
Oh, absolutely Like it's, it'sa dry heat.
You know, the guys at work I'mout there working with, they
always make fun of me becausethey're like oh, how are you
still wearing a sweater?
It's, you know, 20 somethingdegrees now and the sun's out
and we're all sweating and I'mlike yeah, but what happens when
it reaches 35 or 30 degrees andwe're still have to?
You know, told to go pack steelall day and you're already at
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your base layer because, like inthe winter time, you can always
keep adding more layers, but inthe summertime you can only
take off until you're like atyour bare skin here and you're
not allowed to go shirtless onthe job sites anymore.
So you got to wear, you know,your long sleeve and your safety
gear and everything else.
So I like wear a sweater,acclimatize my body to adjust
for that temperature, becausepeople are always going, ah,
it's so hot when it's 30.
(20:43):
But I'm like nah, it's not thatbad now.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
But I feel 30 degrees here is so much worse than 30
degrees back home.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Well, that's true, because the humidity air and the
thickness in the air isdefinitely different.
In Calgary the air is muchthinner and plus it's also
because you get that mountainbreeze.
You're in the priors there, soyou get more of a direct wind,
where here it's like a littlebit more broken up kind of thing
.
So you do feel a difference forsure.
Even, like you said, even like,for example, going on the coast
and on, say, vancouver, likethey get so much rain there, the
(21:10):
humidity there has got to bejust as bad as here, I would
think, because we get more likein Ontario, you get more of the
lake effect, weather and climatechange there because of that.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Totally.
And, garrett, you were sayingthat when you're camping or
we're going to the cottage orhaving those experiences, pack
snacks.
What are your favorite snacksthat you like to bring?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I mean I'm a chips and pretzel guy.
I mean Doritos are probablylike one of the go-tos here.
Like, keep it simple.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
What do you think my favorite snack is to bring?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean, I know you like the shower, cherry blasters
.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
I do, definitely a fan favorite.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
If I had to guess something else.
Oh, you know, you surprise me alot of times.
Sometimes you go trail mix,sometimes you feel chips, so
it's like I kind of have to feelwhat you're feeling that week.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You know, you can't just go in just to say, all
right, she's going to want chipsthis week.
Is it a sweet and salty typething?
You got to mix it up.
You got to have options.
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Speaker 3 (25:20):
So let's just go touch back on gramping a bit
more here.
Yeah, because the one thing islike yeah, like people, it's
like a good way to get exposedto the outdoors, especially for
women, because it's like you geta little bit comforts of home
but you also get exposed in theoutdoor stuff, you know.
I just want to ask you like, doyou feel glamping still creates
connections, like you knowyou're still connecting to you
(25:40):
know you're making those stories.
You're making that campingstory, that classic, nostalgic
of going camping with yourfriends and like that.
Do you still feel like glampingallows you to create that
connections and stuff like that?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Oh, a hundred percent .
And that's such a greatquestion, garrett, and you know,
just going back to theconversation around, is glamping
even camping.
What is it?
What is it considered?
And again, it's different,different tiers for for everyone
.
But again, a lot oforganizations are creating
glamping retreats where someplaces have Wi-Fi, other places
(26:12):
don't have Wi-Fi.
It's away from the city and itallows you to disconnect, turn
your phone off, put it away andenjoy what's right in front of
you outdoors, and it createsconversation.
When you're put into anenvironment where you're almost
forced to talk to the personbeside you, you're having that
social interaction outdoors,enjoying the air and, in my
(26:37):
opinion, just being more presentand not being so distracted by
the screen that's in front ofyou.
Absolutely, it creates moreconnections, a lot of people
because they're more relaxedwhen they go glamping or camping
or at the cottage, becausethey're more relaxed, I find you
know you'll walk by someone andthey'll say hello, good morning
, and you're creating thoseconnections and I feel like
(26:59):
sometimes we do lack that here.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, absolutely, and you know, like a story that I
want to share, that kind of likejust reifies like you can
create those connections as wellin different ways.
You know, growing up as a kid,my best friend was Ryan, and we
were neighbors.
We were literally less than aminute walk from each other, and
you know, every day afterschool he's like I'll go to your
house for 10 minutes or we'llgo to my house or we'll we'll do
something together.
(27:22):
We'll walk to school togetherand stuff.
We'll do something together.
We'll walk, like to schooltogether and stuff.
And so Ryan's mom, jackie, had atrailer just outside of
Coboconk, and one of the thingsthat they did this trailer park,
which is kind of like Lampy,because, you know, you have TV,
you have AC, you have all thisstuff.
But the one thing that wasstill committed as camping,
(27:48):
though, was we were still werestill like pitching a tarp to
cover the bikes that we ride, orwe would, you know, get the
firewood out and ready to have acampfire at the end of the day,
kind of thing.
But the other thing is thatthat community, though, what
they did was they would havelike events for the kids.
So I remember we had this relayrace and you know I was cause I
was always big of competitionsbecause I play a lot of sports
or anything else.
So I was like, oh, I need towin, need to win.
(28:09):
So the one thing I did was Idid this relay race, which was
I'll go over here to thisobstacle, come around.
And then you had to eat a donutwith your hands behind your back
and you know it was good.
It was, uh, just powdered.
You know old-fashioned plainpowdered, glazed, uh, donut kind
of thing.
Still remember it surprisingly,but um, it was good at the end
of it.
You know old fashioned, plain,powdered glazed donut kind of
(28:30):
thing.
Still remember it surprisingly,but it was good at the end of
it.
You know and Jackie goes to saythis to me it's like you know,
it's not about winning here,it's just about having a goofy
silly time and enjoying thelittle activities and just being
together and watching everyoneelse, you know, trip and fall
and bump into each other, andyou know that's one of the
things I would say like you know, that's one of the things I
would say like you can stillenjoy those things while
glamping 100%, and especiallylike as like, say kids, and
bring your kids into it.
It's a good, easy way to easethem into the outdoors as well,
(28:52):
because it allows you to givestructure and stability that
they know and comfort of home.
But you can ease them intodoing little things Like I
remember one of the things wascutting firewood too.
Mine was just a bit older atthe time because I don't think
any parent would trust their kida little kid for that matter
with an action like that to go,yeah, go chop some wood up, and
(29:13):
because that's just a recipe fordisaster.
But you know, when I was oldenough and realized, cut wood by
myself.
Here I am still, 15 years later, and I'm still cutting wood now
on more of industrial gradescales.
But it's just those things thatI find that you know, there's
always something in the outdoorsfor people to enjoy.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Definitely.
And you know, garrett, like I'mas girly as they come, you know
, but I also am such a bigtomboy going out into the
outdoors.
You know, ladies, I have mynails, you know, and you know I
don't like getting bit, I don'tlike getting burnt, but you can
always wash the dirt away.
But it's truly the memoriesthat you make while you're
outdoors.
And just circling back toglamping, I think that and I
(29:50):
think about it more and moreit's so great for young children
as an introductory type thing,because you know just what
Garrett was saying earlier whenyou go camping, you almost have
this infinite list of thingsthat you just don't want to
forget.
But when you go glamping,whoever is organizing it, it's
all there for you.
You got your linens, you gotyour cut wood.
Yes, you may be not beinteracting and roughing it, as
(30:14):
we want to call it, but you getto go and relax and that's the
whole point.
Everything is taken care of foryou.
You have a special space andyou just don't need to worry.
And that looks different foreverybody, but it's something
that the family can take a breakfrom.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
And and like I said, whenpeople are like, oh, is you know
glamping such a big topic andstuff like that for people
nowadays, it's like I also thinkof, as I remember you know a
lot of stuff as a kid.
It's like, yeah, it was kind ofglamping categories, but you
added things, or my dad or momwould add things of let's rough
(30:52):
it for this little section here.
Let's expose you to theselittle things.
So eventually, as the kids growup or as your partner gets more
comfortable in the outdoors,eventually they might say to you
hey, let's go on that portagetrip, I want to just pitch a
tent and I want to do this stuff, because you get those stepping
stone building characters fromhey, let's put tarps up to cover
the bikes so they don't get wetin the rain.
(31:12):
Hey, let's go and prep thefirewood so we don't have to do
that stuff.
Hey, let's make sure we have,like, let's do our checklist
when we go and pack all our food.
Is there any else of things thatyou can think of what you want?
You know those steps.
They're all going to be relatedto doing more roughing, kind of
camping style, because you knowyou're going to learn to do
tying knots.
You're going to learn to youknow how much support can a tarp
(31:33):
hold or a water, like just evencontrolling where you want to
sleep at night because the waterwants to run off you so you're
not in a pool, kind of thing.
So you're on Like these thingsthat you'll learn during those
stepping stones of glamping kindof thing, ultimately leading
into more exposure to theoutdoors.
And you know one thing thatmore exposure, that we did as
well as we went fishing when wewere here and it was nice, we
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caught a lot of bass.
I mean we were just targetingbass, but we caught a lot.
We probably caught, I'd say,between the both of us, over 50
or so, 100%.
I mean they're not trophy bass,people, they are like I mean, I
thought I had a good trophybass.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I outfished Garrett in his own spot, you guys.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, she did.
She probably caught about a,maybe close to a two pounder,
and I think my best is maybe aone pounder kind of thing.
So but no, like it's definitely.
Like you said, you build upthose things and go fishing.
So one thing I would like tosay is after glamping, what's
that next little step?
Or what's that next little addthing?
Because I hear paddleboardingis one of those hot topics now
(32:34):
too, because you know, betweensaying taking canoes out or
paddleboard or kayak kind ofthing, you know especially,
let's go back to saying how doyou get your partner or more
women involved?
you know, yeah, do you want tocarry a canoe through the bush?
Or would you want to carry aninflatable paddleboard and go
out in the lake, kind of thing?
You know what's that nextexposure that people would use
(32:56):
to get you know a little bitmore in the outdoors.
So, like the next thing is, youknow, going from the beach and
now going on the water.
What would you say would be agood option there?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, absolutely, that's such a good question and,
again, it all depends on whoyou ask.
Paddleboarding is fantastic outWest.
All everyone does ispaddleboard.
You know, a man might want tocarry that canoe where a female
will carry the, you know, thepaddleboard or whichever I mean.
Even for me, I would like tocarry an inflatable paddleboard
(33:24):
because I don't want to carrythe whole thing.
But in terms of next steps,absolutely, after glamping, you
can definitely try just roughingit and doing the regular
camping.
I think one thing that I wantto note for everyone is that,
yes, camping is relaxing.
The fresh air, oh my goodness.
The sleep that you get outsideis wonderful, but learning how
(33:46):
to?
There's no gender rolesassigned to learning how to
survive.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Right, oh, absolutely .
Because, like you know,everyone's got to do it or
everyone has to be exposed to it, because you never know what's
going to happen or take place.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Learn how to fish, learn how to tie those knots,
learn how to start a fire.
It's just, even if you don'tuse it, it's really good to know
, and so I think that doing thatthe roughing at camping after
doing a glamping experiencewould be the best thing
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Now I know you're not a big fan of kayaking.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Oh dear.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Now, if you were to say you know fears that people
have with certain things, I knowyou.
I mean, maybe I'll let you sayit, but like, what's your fear
with kayaking and why would yoube leaning towards a different
thing?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah, okay.
So just so everyone knows, Ihave experienced paddle boarding
.
I have experience with canoeing, I've done the portaging ever
since I was a kid but I have areally odd fear of big bodies of
water.
But I have a really odd fear ofbig bodies of water and I fear
that if I go kayaking and itflips upside down, I am not
(34:58):
going to recover from that, I'mgoing to panic and I won't be
able to flip back over Garrett.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And that's a fair statement to have, because I
remember going back on, say, agrade eight grad trip and one of
the things that they did thereonly myself did, because I was
exposed to it was they saidwe're going to go kayaking and
you can go on the big ones thatare designed not to flip because
they just have the side thingout so you're more stabilized.
But I went in the single onebecause I've been used to it and
they did.
So the instructor there, whatthey did is they did a
demonstration of how do you flipa kayak and flip back over, and
(35:36):
it was that simple exposurethat makes it more comfortable.
So I was going to say somethinghere is that you know people
getting into it.
Go to those camping facilities,go to those campgrounds that
have these activities for kidsand stuff like that, because
they will teach you and exposeyou.
It's not a scary thing, becauseyou're just most of the time
being scared because you'venever done it before.
(35:56):
You know, like I, we've talkedabout going skydiving, for
example.
You know, obviously it's ascary thing, but I'm like how
many people have done itnowadays?
And I'm like, oh, I could do itfor sure, no problem.
But like, just taking thatinitial step and seeing that's
safe is one of the biggestthings.
And I was going to say likelittle activities that you can
do to help build confidence inpeople.
(36:17):
Oh gosh, is taking them to likea ropes course.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
You know, for example , treetop trekking is big.
We're in Ontario here now andthey've been around for, I think
, a few years.
But that's one of the thingswhere you learn to trust your
equipment.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
trust your abilities, trust yourself, Like you
realize it's like you know, hey,that safety line rope you know,
go test it.
You know, Like, cause they doit like that.
They have the little smallstepping stones there where they
make you be comfortable in yourequipment.
Yeah, so I feel like that's oneof the good thing for people to
do is expose themselves tothese little things, to build
that confidence to do stuff.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
And I love the topic around building the confidence.
That's huge.
I think I'm just going to speakfor women here, you know, or
men too, when it comes to theirvanity.
We are really taught.
I know I was just saying toGarrett's mom last night that I
feel like I have been told bythe beauty community that if I
(37:12):
don't put black goop on myeyelashes I am not pretty.
And I think outdoors reallyhelps build your confidence and
it's all about the art ofletting go.
Truly.
You're not gonna have thatmakeup, you're going to be
yourself and, as women, buildingfeminine confidence without
(37:35):
makeup or without our high heelslike that's a power and really
being able to sit with yourself,whether, again, whether you're
female, male or however youidentify.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That's one of the best practices and being in
nature oh, absolutely, and youjust touched on like a really
golden topic there too, is thatwhen you're camping, you don't
need to focus on impressingother people.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Like who are you trying to impress when?
you're camping, I think of it aslike you don't need your makeup
kit, you don't need this stuff,because it's like it's just you
and your partner or you andyour close friends, kind of
thing, and it's like, you know,just be yourself, like don't
have to worry about the worldaround you.
What they think is because youare alone, you're isolated and
you have the ability and time tojust reconnect with yourself
(38:23):
and feel good for yourself, notfeeling that they have to feel
good for others, put on yourbest shirt, kind of thing.
It's no, you're feeling what'scomfortable for you.
So bring your comfy clothes,bring that raggedy old t-shirt
that you know, for some reasonyou still has holes in it but it
still gives you comfort to weararound.
You know, like that's.
I still have a bunch of thoseand, mind you, a lot of them are
all nostalgic.
You know stuff now it's like,oh, I was here for this
(38:45):
tournament or oh, I was, Iplayed team Ontario rugby and we
did a West Coast tournament.
So I have all the stuff therewhen I was playing.
I'm like those are just comfyshirts that I still have that
are full of holes now, butthey're just.
It's just that comfinessbecause, like I'm, not trying to
impress people.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
I can wear my junky clothes, you know.
I think we forget how to be whowe are.
Honestly, we are.
So, you know, for the peoplethat work nine to five or 12
hours like Garrett, you know,every day we are so involved in
the hustle and bustle and we'resurrounded by social media,
influenced by our colleagues,influenced by anything.
Do we ever really have time tosit and just be with ourselves?
(39:22):
You know what I mean.
Even when we go home, maybe adoom scroll for a couple hours
on social media, and we'refinding this time where it's
happening so much that peopleare so unhappy with their own
lives.
I think camping or glamping orgoing to the cottage or however
you like to spend time outsidegives you the opportunity to be
(39:43):
your authentic self, whateverthat looks like, with no
judgment, and that is amazing.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Oh, absolutely, and you know, one of the things I
think of too, is that you know,I ran a half marathon just the
other day and my legs werecompletely shot and people could
tell this is my first time andI had zero training.
I'm going to use that as myexcuse.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
But why did you run the half marathon, Garrett?
Everyone needs to know.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Well, I mean, people were listening before, but they
know, I ran the half marathonbecause I lost my fantasy
football league and thepunishment was to run a half
marathon and I ran in a footballjersey of course.
So I did it, did it in two hoursand 34 minutes, which was great
.
But you know, something thatwas like I just kind of
connected there is, like yourealize, it's like I put myself
in a situation or an area that Iwasn't comfortable in.
(40:28):
I am not a runner, you know, ifpeople saw me on the street,
they're like this guy's a powerlifter.
And you know, I was up at thecollege because we were fixing a
beam up there and the guy thatwas helping us out was like you
ran a marathon.
You look like the guy that'd bedoing like the cable toss and
the Scottish games and stufflike that.
So, and I was like, but thething that I was out of my
element, and people that wererunning that you could tell that
(40:50):
they were runners um, they weregiving me high fives, they were
cheering me on, they were likeyou know, keep going.
Like you know, you see me likeyou're sweating.
Well, I mean, I can take theheat, but like you're seeing me
sweating, you're struggling andyou know, like running is not my
stick, but they're, they'repeople that are supporting me
and making me comfortable in myown skin, in my own abilities,
(41:10):
and the same thing goes whenyou're outside and camping, for
example, hiking, you know howmany people on the hiking trail
especially say we're in Calgaryand Banff and the mountains
there, you know, look at you andsay, hey, how's it going, how's
your day?
You guys are doing so good,you're already halfway up, kind
of thing.
They give you that motivation.
And because people are, justbecause the only thing you're
trying to impress is yourself-abilities.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
You know what the best way I can compare it to is.
When you want to go to the gymfor the first time, you feel
uncomfortable, but everyone atthe gym no one's judging you,
they've been there, they're justdoing their own thing.
That's the best way I cancompare it to.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
A golden example there.
Right, it's just yeah, you'rein an uncomfortable situation
and you just take that firststep and people are there most
of the time, are going to tryand say help you, or they're
going to look over theirshoulder and be like, oh, do you
need a spot to get that lastrep, and kind of thing.
It's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
It's like put yourself in the uncomfortable
situation and just do it foryourself yeah, you know, and we
forget to do that a lot oh,absolutely a lot of things do
get in the way of that, I think,when it comes to glamping, when
you it, if it's your first timeor if you've done it before,
share your experience, bring afriend, do it, or your partner,
or go by yourself, whatever youneed.
(42:20):
Take that time to not stop, butpause and enjoy what's around
you and what you bring to thetable.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, it's like.
It's like holding the fish forthe first time too.
You know I remember, um, so wewere there with my brother and
his uh, his partner Casey, andyou know Casey was like, oh, I
can do this because he'swatching us do it and I, you
know he didn't realize it, buton the back side of a bass they
have their, their dorsal fin,which has very sharp spikes on
the top of it and that's theirdefense thing.
(42:49):
So if you hold it from the topand they twitch and flinch and
everything else, you're gonnaget cut.
Like I got cut and I've pulledthe fish like thousands of times
now.
But you know she didn't noticeuntil I told her I'm like, hey,
grab it from the belly or putyour thumb in its mouth, because
they don't really have theylike, just like little soft
barbs.
They don't only have like teeth, they're not going to be.
You can do that with the bass,right, and once you learn how to
(43:11):
hold that, you feel morecomfortable doing it and it's
like, hey, you're able to takethe hook out for yourself.
You know same kind of concepts.
Like you know, going fishingfor yourself for the first time,
it's like I don't want to touchit.
How do you take the hook outRight?
Like you need someone to showyou I flipped over.
(43:32):
I'm like you know.
Do you need a hand with thisone?
Speaker 5 (43:34):
you're like nope, I got it I'm good, you're good.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, right, other than when it was deep and you
need pliers, because it's like Iget it.
It's.
You know if, if you're not usedto do like working with pliers
and everything else, it gets alittle bit challenging.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
But yeah, nailed it, you crushed it the only thing I
was missing was the bobber.
You enjoy seeing that bobber.
You enjoy seeing that bobber gointo the water and enjoy that
action.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
That's exciting, yeah Well we're up, we're up in,
like the corth is there and if Idon't fish with a bobber,
because you know, I've fished along time and I realized if
people want to catch bass andyou're taking your kid out for
the first time, use the wackyrig, which is what, which is
what I put on for her.
It doesn't have a bobber.
You can put a bobber on it ifyou want.
But the Wacky Rig is one ofthose things where you don't
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really have to think of how toreel it in, how to work the bait
.
You kind of cast it out, forgetit.
You know, you give it a minuteor two and you're like, oh, I
haven't reeled in.
So you reel it in tight andthen you let it sink again and
it's effective Like we caughtover 50 bass.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Oh, gosh, yeah.
And the fish were happy thatday.
Oh my goodness, they wereflopping around.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
I've never seen somebody like bass jump out of
the water.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
They were putting a frenzy on for feeding, but I'm
just like.
This is the first time I eversaw that.
I know so.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
That was fantastic.
I think we had a great time wewere and being together.
You know, Garrett and I havealmost been together for about
two years now, which is amazingall within itself.
We've had so many adventurestogether, but we haven't gone
fishing and we did it.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, we did it, and it was one of those things where
I'm obsessed with fishing, aspeople probably know, and, yeah,
it was one of those things thatwas really nice to be able to
finally do that together.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Yeah, I that together , yeah, so I think we got a lot
of outdoor activities toaccomplish together.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Still, Well, I think we definitely do like that
portaging trip.
We got a plan.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Oh gosh, well, all right.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Maybe we'll just go camping first.
I'll carry the lighter stuff,fair enough, well, um, no.
Well, since we're kind ofwrapping up here, I guess, is
there anything else that youthink that you could say to to
to get women out in the outdoors?
It's, like you know, liketaking that first step, putting
yourself out in a differentcomfort zone, kind of thing.
You know, is there anythingelse that you can say or add as
like a final statement here tosay to people, like you know, is
(45:44):
it scary, is it not scary?
Like what's going to get themto be, help them, kind of
process this.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Yeah, fantastic question, garrett.
I think thinking about doingsomething takes a lot more
effort than actually doing it.
It causes more stress tooverthink it than it does to
actually do it.
And, regardless if it's campingor not, I always encourage
everyone to do something thatallows them to be out of their
comfort zone.
(46:09):
It allows you to becomeconfident, it allows you to you
know, prove to yourself that youcan actually do it.
And I think, when it comes toglamping, ladies you know, or
men who haven't done it before,definitely get outside and do be
in nature, enjoy the fresh airand the sleep that you get, and
(46:31):
listening to the birds.
Enjoy the fresh air and thesleep that you get and listening
to the birds One of the rarestsounds that we'll ever get is
quiet, and being able to groundyourself outdoors really heals
the nervous system and whatevercapacity that looks like for you
.
Whether it's one night or aweek, I encourage you to do it.
Spend some time outdoors, getthat hike in, get a walk in,
(46:52):
because you deserve peace andyou deserve mental wellness.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Like, really well said there.
Like you know, take that littlestep, baby steps.
You know small things, Likeyou'll work up to the big step
eventually.
But don't be shy becausesomeone's already at the level
of expert or experienced thereyou know, think of like me and
my brother, for example.
I always use this example is mydad told me once that, you know
, Josh is two years older thanme, so he's got two more years
(47:19):
of growth and development for meto do the same thing.
Because I'd always fall walkingacross the logs, on a downed
log, across the pond or a riveror something, and I would slip
and fall, but my brother would,he would go across, and I would
slip and fall, but my brotherwould, he would go across, and I
would get frustrated Like howcome I can't go across?
You know, just because someonehas more experience doesn't mean
I won't get to that level too.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
Right, right, and that goes for anything.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
So, yeah, it's a little bit uncomfortable at
first.
You might have a couple ofbumps along the way but you
don't have a.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
You know a friend, I know.
When I moved to alberta twoyears ago I'm from ontario
originally as well I didn't haveanyone.
So join a facebook group, getsome information, collect what
you need before you, you know,take action.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
Facebook groups are fantastic yeah, especially even
for, like, the local areas.
You know, like I celebrate allthe time like I am a part of a
couple of fishing groups outhere, because there's always
some person for example, icefishing groups, they're gonna,
are going to hey, I'm checkingthe ice, you know we got three
inches, or oh, we got two inchesnot quite safe, yet you know
it's that, that local or thatexperience that you're going to
get.
So when you're out in Calgaryor Banff, it's like find a group
(48:22):
out there or find a groupwherever you're from, get the
information, because informationis, you know, knowledge is
power Absolutely.
So if you're in the know, youfeel better about things.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
Knowledge is power is such an amazing thing and if
you're going to glamp or gofishing or do any of these
fantastic outdoor activities,you know emailing in and asking
questions to Jerry.
I'm sure he will absolutelylove to help and, you know,
provide you a list.
Maybe we need to work on thatand get that published together.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
We can do that for sure.
Well, I think we're going towrap it up here.
Folks, thank you for listening.
As always, I know my dad'salways looking.
If people have any questions orneed any information, always
feel free to reach out.
And you know, brittany, thankyou for joining the show.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
And everyone, wishing you all the best of luck here.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Take care everyone.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
All right.
Well, thanks very much,brittany and Garrett.
We really appreciate you takingthe time and bringing a
different perspective to what'shappening out there and how to
get people involved and moreinvolved with a lot of things
out there under the canopy.
And, as always, any questions,comments, let us know.
We'll do what we can.
Have a great week.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Hi everybody.
I'm Angelo Viola and I'm'm PeteBowman.
Now you might know us as thehosts of Canada's Favorite
Fishing Show, but now we'rehosting a podcast.
That's right.
Every Thursday, angelo will beright here in your ears bringing
you a brand new episode ofOutdoor Journal Radio.
Now, what are we going to talkabout for two hours every week?
Well, you know, there's goingto be a lot of fishing.
Speaker 6 (50:09):
I knew exactly where those fish were going to be and
how to catch them, and they wereeasy to catch, yeah but it's
not just a fishing show.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
We're going to be talking to people from all
facets of the outdoors, fromathletes, All the other guys
would go golfing Me and Garthand Turk and all the Russians
would go fishing.
Speaker 8 (50:26):
To scientists, but now that we're reforesting and
laying things free, it's theperfect transmission environment
for life.
Speaker 7 (50:33):
To chefs if any game isn't cooked properly, marinated
, you will taste it.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
And whoever else will pick up the phone Wherever you
are.
Outdoor Journal Radio seeks toanswer the questions and tell
the stories of all those whoenjoy being outside.
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