September 2, 2025 • 28 mins
A torrential downpour transforms into a months-long nightmare when Garrett's Calgary townhouse floods during roof repairs, leaving him battling property managers, mold remediation, and "livable" conditions in a half-wrecked home. But this construction worker's story runs deeper than personal housing woes – it offers a fascinating window into Alberta's explosive building boom.
From his vantage point on construction sites across Calgary and Edmonton, Garrett reveals the scale of development reshaping the province. Hundreds of homes, multi-story apartment complexes, and commercial spaces are sprouting across the landscape, transforming the "Blue Sky City" that paradoxically experienced a "Vancouver summer" of near-constant rainfall this year.
The conversation ventures into the engineering marvels hidden within modern buildings as Garrett explains the complex mechanics of "transfer slabs" – specialized structures designed to distribute weight and accommodate seismic activity between commercial and residential sections. With 18,000 "hairpins" connecting top and bottom mats in a single building, these unseen elements exemplify the overengineering principle Garrett describes: "We build stuff in Canada to 100 times its capacity."
Looking northward, Garrett shares his applications for mining projects in Ontario's "Ring of Fire" and potential gold operations in Canada's territories, where soaring prices are making previously unprofitable deposits economically viable. The unpredictable nature of his profession means opportunity could call at any moment, sending him to a remote diamond mine in Nunavut with little notice.
Join us for this revealing glimpse into the construction frontlines, where personal resilience meets professional expertise, and where Canada's future is being built one transfer slab at a time.
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But, as I mentioned, a littlebit different, we're giving some
updates and I've got Garrett onthe line with us.
(03:59):
How's it going, garrett?
I'm good.
How's it going?
It's going, you know it's.
I'm wearing wrist guards todaybecause I've been pushing it too
hard and and that's whathappens as you gain how shall I
say this experience in life, andyou push it a little bit too
much, but you pay the price.
So last night it was one ofthose sleepless nights because
(04:19):
the uh, the pain in my wrist wasso bad from all the work I'm
doing, whether it's splittingwood, cutting wood, hauling logs
or building stuff was adding up.
But what's happening out inCalgary there?
Give us an update of whathappened to the place you're at
and what happened a couple ofmonths ago with the weather that
put you in the position you'rein now.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Well, we had a big rainstorm back in June I think
it was June 19th or June 20ththere, so roughly three months
ago now and the forecast calledfor about 45 to 55 millimeters
of rain and it caused completeflooding in the streets.
You were driving your car andit was pretty much past your
tires kind of thing.
(05:03):
Not so high it was, um.
And because of that rain we hada flood in our uh place that
we're renting out here incalgary and they were doing a
roof uh repair or rework orwhatever because of the hail
damage from the the year before.
So they came in they'reprobably about a week or so into
(05:24):
the job with the roof and thatbig storm hit us there and it
flooded all three floors of ourtownhouse that we're renting
there.
So it's a three bedroomtownhouse and it flooded the two
bedrooms upstairs.
It went through the interiorwalls and the exterior walls.
It was going through theceiling fan.
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On the bathrooms upstairs itwas leaking through the washer
and dryer and then on the mainfloor it was pouring out above
the kitchen there, above thestove and the island.
It was coming through thekitchen window there.
Pretty good, probably the worstwas the kitchen window there.
It had to remove all thedrywall around all the windows,
(06:06):
some interior walls.
They had to take out somedrywall there as well,
insulation.
And that was three months agoand I've been dealing with
issues ever since of, he saysshe said back and forth
conversation of who'sresponsible.
The roofing company says it'snot our fault at first.
Then the catalyst, which is ourproperty management, went after
them and then our propertymanager was Truman Rentals, or
(06:33):
contract manager was TrumanRentals and they were getting
involved and they were followingthrough.
And then Truman, their contractended on August 1st and the
landlord took over August 1stand he was blindsided.
He said he had no idea what wasgoing on.
So he got involved and todaythey're finally starting to
actually do some work onprogression, on fixing it.
(06:53):
But it's been about threemonths of back and forth
conversation and then when theyoriginally took out the walls
that they had to take out, theyfound mold and so it's been back
and forth with molds and,trying to get that tested and
dealt with, had to call AlbertaTenant Services to get them
involved.
So it was quite the ordeal.
(07:14):
It's still going on but youknow, hopefully things are
looking up now.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But where are you staying while all this is taking
place, or how do you do thatwhen everything's in turmoil
there?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
well, all this has taken place, or how do you do
that when everything's inturmoil there?
Well, myself I was working inEdmonton and then back and forth
there, but more or less we'vebeen told to live in the
situation, because half thehouse was wrecked and half the
house was fine, so the masterbedroom didn't have any damage.
So they said, oh, it's stilllivable.
I've gotten Alberta HealthServices involved and so we were
(07:48):
still living in the house, andnow we're probably going to be
looking at some kind of asettlement here coming up
because we were living in anunlivable condition.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Now how many units in your complex there?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
now there's how many units uh in your complex there.
So there was um, I believe itwas.
It's either 12 or 24, because Ican't remember if the uh other
half of it was affected.
But in my direct one all 12units were uh were damaged there
um three of them were deemedunlivable like right away
because how bad it was for them.
A couple of them were veryunlivable right away because of
how bad it was for them.
A couple of them were veryminor.
Ours was one of the worst onesas well, but they didn't deem it
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unlivable because I woke up at4 o'clock or 3 o'clock in the
morning, as I normally do to goto work, and it turns out that I
was able to catch, probably Ithink one of our flowerpots was
this seven gallon flower pots.
I mean, that's like cat.
It was over seven gallons inthe one flower pot, kind of
(08:52):
things that empty out threetimes.
So Wow.
So it was coming down prettygood.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, so the rain.
You've had quite a bit of rainout there for a while, haven't
you?
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well, it's uh it's been a very wet summer here in
Calgary.
Everyone's like you know thenew slogan in Calgary was Blue
Sky City and everyone's like arewe sure about that, because you
know we were having a veryVancouver summer.
It was rain almost every otherday.
I think we've only gotten otherthan this week now.
It's been nice weather, butbefore that we had maybe five
(09:28):
days of just clear skies, ofsunniness for the last couple of
months there.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right, and right now you're into a bit of a heat wave
there.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, so it's reaching temperatures right
around 30, just over 30 degreesand a bit of a heat wave right
now, very clear blue skies, kindof thing.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Wow, so a big change from all the rain now to all the
clear blue skies and 30 plusdegree Celsius weather.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, it's like we're getting, you know, maybe a week
or two of actual Calgary summer, and then I'm sure fall will be
right around the corner now.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Isn't that the truth?
So what kind of projects you'reworking on?
Are you working on a housingproject or something like that
coming up?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, so in Calgary the housing market, or
residential, is just completelyexploded.
Here, like almost everywhere wego in the city, they are
putting up condos, apartments,houses left, right and center.
I know where I'm living up inthe northeast of Calgary.
There they're probably puttingin another, at least another six
or 700 homes that are probablybeing started and there's
probably still bagging land foranother thousand or 2000,.
(10:35):
At least in that one area andI'm in the Southwest of Calgary
right now and there's I'll justtake a count right now, so just
at work right here.
So we got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16
, I would say because they'rejust starting to drill another
one here 16 apartments or condoareas being built and they're
(11:00):
about six stories each and theyare, let's say, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
, 7, 8.
So and then probably about 16units per floor.
So they're putting up houseshere left, right and center.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, so, and just so people know we're recording the
podcast while you're on breakout there.
I'm on break right now, so andwhat about what happened with
what was happening in Edmonton?
I thought you were working outin Edmonton.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Yeah, so I was out in Edmonton there for just over a
month and we were doing a netzero hydrogen project.
I believe it's still going on,but I don't know much more
details about that one.
But Edmonton was, they weredoing a lot of expansions, a lot
of development there as well.
I know that they have a new LRTsystem, so LRT is a light rail
transit system, so they weredoing a lot of highway
(11:58):
reconstruction there.
They were doing a lot of theLRT work there.
And then they had that net zerohydrogen project and that was a
very huge project there.
I think they had over I thinkit was over 14 or 15 hundred
workers already registered towork at that project.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So when I first got there, and not only that, but
there's new outlet malls beingbuilt, or you're working on
those too, or those are comingup, so quite a bit of stuff
happening there.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, I've been a little bit all over right now,
which normally is how my workgoes.
So then in the far East sideand the far west side of calgary
they're expanding across thering road there, and the ring
road is just that new highwaythat they built that surrounds
the entire city and now they'restanding on the other side of it
so they're putting in new stripmalls there and things like
that as well as um shoppingcenters.
(12:47):
So if you ever look at like, uh, those smart center places
where there's like a Walmart anda grocery store, there's a
dollar store, usually a coupleof smaller stores in there, a
lot of that's been going uparound here in Calgary now.
So they're developing more ofthose smaller zones kind of
thing.
And then there's another bigproject starting up in Red Deer,
which my company I work for hasa project for they're doing a
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new hospital out there and thatone just got started, I believe
either last week or two weeksago now.
So that's another big projectcoming up, for I guess for
Alberta, for that matter.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh yeah, and something about a new apartment
building as well.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, so I was on a new apartment building for and
this one was right by thechildren's hospital there here
in Calgary, and that one was abig project, I think in one week
.
We had over 1200 tons of steelput in in one week, which is a.
We had a RAS slab and a coupleof transfer slabs as well.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
What do you mean by transfer slabs and stuff?
Speaker 5 (13:45):
So a transfer slab is from, say, commercial, so for
storefronts or parking garage orthings like that that are going
to be more commercial use, andthe transfer slab from there
after what we do is we have atransfer slab design, so as the
shift weights or the demand forholding up a certain amount of
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weight and stuff like thatchanges, there's a transfer slab
that goes in.
So then once the transfer slabgoes in, it goes to typical, and
typical would just be your.
You know, every single floor iskind of the same thing.
So a transfer slab is designedto take the shifting of weight,
demand and things like that.
And so usually a transfer slabwe had about on this one was, I
think it was, 18,000 hairpins intotal, which a hairpin connects
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a top mat to a bottom mat andthat just helps ties it together
.
So if there's a seismicactivity or weight shift kind of
thing, it helps stabilize thetransfer of weight there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So do they actually just sit on top of each other?
How does that work?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
So they'll kind of hook into each other.
So there's like think of a gridsystem or like a math kind of
paper, those grid lines thereThere'll be a top one and a
bottom one, and then those linesare what the bars are going to
look like, and that hairpin willhook the top mat and the bottom
mat together and that'll helpstabilize for more weight shift
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and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So you mentioned during seismic activity.
So if there's an earthquake,then these two pads shift on
each other.
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, they're designed to take transfers of
weight Even, for example, like acar underneath and people up
top there.
You know the way the weightchanges is designed to flow or
time to have a bit of swaydesign with weight change.
Like people don't realize it,but there is always a little bit
of drift in some of thesebuildings, like when you get up
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high and say the CN Tower.
You may not feel it but youknow a one inch drift is a lot
of tension all the way down atthe very bottom there.
So even if it's a couple milsof you know weight change kind
of thing they anticipate forhuge amounts of stress and
pressure because that transferslab is going to be the key
point of where all that weightis going to be pinpointed, that
kind of thing.
So that's why those hairpinsare there, allowed to stabilize
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the steel better and tostabilize the weight of the
building.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
So even from, like you mentioned, like a car, like
a car park, is you know if theyhave a car park, garage, sort of
thing?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, so that I meant like, for example, the one I
was doing was a car garageunderneath the building.
So as those cars are driving,if they have a truck in there
kind of thing, if the weightscan be changing as they drive
across, that will transfer thatmotion, will transfer into the
slab and the slab is designed tomore or less take that transfer
weight of the cars going in andout, kind of thing.
(16:38):
So from there even commercial,where there could be a lot of
demand for a lot more weight tobe designed on those commercials
space that they're going tobuild there too.
So they are designed to takethe weight of an X amount of
factors.
But we build stuff inada to 100times its capacity, so it's
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always well over designed justin case of you never know what's
going to happen oh okay, sowell, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, so, yeah, so the net zero stuff is still
moving.
But uh, you're part of that.
Uh, in edmonton's all finished,right?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
yeah, they're um, we pushed them ahead pretty good so
it got to the point where rebarwork was starting to get a
little bit slower there.
But, like, structural work willstart picking up and then, for
example, pipe finish will pickup because it is going to be a
lot of structural steel, a lotof pipes, a lot of compressors,
boiler makers are going to beinvolved.
So there'll be a lot more ofthat work going on because we've
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done all the ground work andstability work there.
So now you'll be running allyour pipes, everything else
there, that in in edmonton,which is not my field of work
yeah, yeah, and so you'veapplied elsewhere, uh, for some
other camp jobs.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Whereabouts have you applied?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
so I made a phone call, uh, not too while ago, to
the sudbury local there becausethey have the rights for the
ring of fire job and that ringof fire is a big mine that's
going up in northern Ontariolike I think.
I can't remember exactlocations, but it'll be
somewhere like probably morenorth of Timmins, I believe, or
around that same scope of areathere.
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But there's no development inthat area yet, so there's no
highway or infrastructure.
So it would be like a fly-inand take a bush plane and
probably land on a dirt road oropen area kind of thing and go
to work kind of thing.
But they said that might startup in the fall.
They don't have anything yetbecause projects change
constantly, timelines change, sowe might not have work for us
(18:35):
this year.
But I put my name on the listand I apply there and they said
if something comes up they'llhappen there.
The guy said there's a coupleof gold mines going up in
Ontario again, so if they needmore guys there he'll give me a
call.
But you never know how thingsgo.
I can wake up tomorrow morning,get a phone call and say hey,
we need to fly you to Nunavutthere because they're building a
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new diamond mine and they needguys now, so everything's
different.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Oh, I thought it was Yukon or Northwest that you
applied at a gold mine as well.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I did apply for one up there in Yukon.
There that one, they were ableto fill it with just local guys.
There it was a very small crew.
I think they only ran with fiveguys this time, so it wasn't
like as big as anticipated.
But I didn't get that one.
But there is a lot of goldmines, stuff like that,
happening in none of theNorthwest territories and Yukon
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as well.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, with the price of gold that's going on out
there, it's certainly inspiringa lot of gold facilities to get
mobile with price so high.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Oh, absolutely Like.
Demand is just insane.
Ontario has or Canada for thatmatter has one of the biggest
supplies, but most of our goldis all bedrock gold or hard rock
gold, so it's all a harderprocess to get it out of the
ground, kind of thing.
So it's just not worth it'swhile, until technology is
finally catching up now.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, and if you remember when we were outside at
Timmins and we went in to getan oil change on your truck and
you walked down that trail wherethey had tailings, they used
tailings to fill the trail inwhich is essentially comes out
of the mine as kind of scraprock and you found that chunk of
quartz that was just filledwith gold, yep.
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So there's a lot of things thatkeep an eye out.
You're kind of surprised atwhat you can find, where and how
those things work, and I knowsome of the mines.
It depends on what the gold isin, and if it's in with iron ore
it's really hard to extract.
So a lot of times what they'lldo is they will let the iron ore
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be exposed to water and startto rust.
And when it starts to rust andwear out after years the iron
ore is gone but the gold is leftover and then they do the
extraction process there becauseit's not quite as costly to
separate the two.
But gold and quartz apparentlyis about the easiest to get out
from what I understand.
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But I'm far from an expert.
I mean I've had a prospectinglicense for I don't know, 25, 30
years kind of thing, but nevergotten that far into it and I
know up in Timmins I had thepleasure to go down in North
America's deepest heavy metalsmine and we went down like 7,500
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feet.
They've got a train, a littlemini train, that's down below,
that runs, I think it's I'm notsure if it's the road or the
train that goes 26 kilometersjust the way it kind of circles
down in the ground and it's kindof amazing to see.
But yeah, working in an actualgold mine was unbelievable and
it's kind of amazing to see.
But yeah, working in a in aactual gold mine was
unbelievable and the maintenanceshed in there, if you took, you
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couldn't throw a ball highenough to hit the ceiling and
the maintenance shed it was thathigh and the size of the, the,
the elevators, they theelevators to go up and down in
there.
There was two elevators and oneheld like 150 people.
Can you imagine an elevatorholding 150 people and the
infrastructure to be able tohaul it up and down?
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It was kind of amazing.
But yeah, there's a lot ofdifferent things out there and
certainly what's happening withthe gold market is impacting.
So what else is happening outin Calgary?
What are you up to this comingweekend?
You going glamping?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
No, probably not going to go glamping, but I
think plans changed a little bit.
But we might go up for a hikethere in the Banff area Not too
sure exactly where, we haven'tpicked yet.
But we're also going to checkthe weather the day before,
because the way the weather goessometimes in Banff it could be
calling for sun and then you,you know you drive out there an
hour later and so you're in themiddle of a thunderstorm.
(22:39):
So but we're probably going togo hiking this this weekend up
in Banff, Probably in the yeah,probably Banff.
We'll probably go to, like,maybe Lake Louise, something
like that.
Try and just enjoy the sightsthere, because it will be the
long weekend, I'm sure it'll bebusy, but it'll be nice to just
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get some time out and do alittle bit of hiking in the
mountains there.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, oh, and up at the cottage.
I'm not sure if I told you ornot, but I'm regularly seeing a
bear up there.
Now it looks like we've got aresident small bear up there
that's hanging in the area.
It's probably not this year'sbut last year's cup.
It looks like it's about thesame size as the chocolate lab
gunner and it's.
It's a cute little thing, but,oh my lord, I can just imagine
(23:25):
it's cute now.
In a couple of years from now,if it stays in the area and the
food forage base is there, itcould be very problematic it's
probably going after all theturkeys we see up there now yeah
, I saw some turkeys up there.
But you know, and like Pierresays, for those who listen to
the podcast that I had Pierre,he says one thing with bears is
in his camps that he had theynever go out the same way they
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went in.
So they'd smash a window to gointo the camp to tear it up and
find food or whatever, and thenthey would go out a different
window rather than going out thesame one.
They went in.
So and they can do a lot ofdamage too.
But it's like anything, and Ithink Gunner's putting the run
to this one on a regular basis,because when we do our walks all
of a sudden he's taken off likecrazy and I can't figure out
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what he's after.
But I'm assuming it's the bearbecause it's right in the same
area.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Wouldn't be surprised he is a strong dog.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, yeah, and you take Brittany's Doberman with
you when you go for a hike aswell.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Yeah, belle, there, she'll be probably coming with
us as well.
I guess I might pick a more ofa dog-friendly hike than more of
a steep climb one, but yeah,she'll come with us.
She's still full of Piss andvinegar, as the people say,
because she just keeps going andgoing and going, and every time
we take her to daycare whereboth of us are working and don't
have time to be at home to walkher, let her out, we'll put her
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in daycare, and they always say, oh, she's just always a joy to
be around, and she just goesnonstop.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, listen, garrett, I knowyou got to get back to work
because you're only on break andI'm get back to work because
you're only on break and I'mmonitoring the time for you.
So it looks like it's gettingpretty close.
So by the time you shut off andwalk, get where you need to be,
you'll be back on time, and wereally appreciate the update and
everything that's happening outwest.
Keep up the good work and welook forward to seeing you back
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here again and hopefullysomething pans out up at the
ring of the fire, which isactually actually more not so
much north of Timmins, butprobably south of Paraprovincial
Park, between there andManitoba border, up Hudson's Bay
lowlands, not so much James Bay, but that's always good.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah, like I said, I wasn't exactly sure where that
was, but I know it was somewhereway up there.
But it's a big footprint.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Oh yeah, well, that's how sudbury was founded was
because a meteorite hit thereand the impact was so deep that
it brought up a lot of mineralsfrom the earth's core.
But now they're finding thatnot only did that meteorite hit
there, but there was probablyother ones north of there that
hit at the same time thatbrought up the minerals up there
(26:04):
.
And sudbury and the TorontoStock Exchange was founded on
the mining industry and thiswill be another huge boom for
Ontario.
So, just like you said, you gotto get the infrastructure up
there, because there's onlywinter roads, there's no regular
roads, so it's a pretty remotemine and pretty hard to get into
.
But it'll be certainly abenefit for everybody in the
province of Ontario because,like they say, you know, if you
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can't grow it, you've got tomine it in order to be able to
use it.
And I'm looking around whereI'm sitting, just full of metal
everywhere.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Absolutely.
Anyways, the boss has steppedout, so I've got to get going
here.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Okay well, thanks very much for the update,
Garrett, and that's justsomething a little bit different
out there under the canopy.
Thanks again, Garrett.
Say hi to Brittany.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
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How's it going, garrett?
I'm good.
How's it going?
It's going, you know it's.
I'm wearing wrist guards todaybecause I've been pushing it too
hard and and that's whathappens as you gain how shall I
say this experience in life, andyou push it a little bit too
much, but you pay the price.
So last night it was one ofthose sleepless nights because
(04:19):
the uh, the pain in my wrist wasso bad from all the work I'm
doing, whether it's splittingwood, cutting wood, hauling logs
or building stuff was adding up.
But what's happening out inCalgary there?
Give us an update of whathappened to the place you're at
and what happened a couple ofmonths ago with the weather that
put you in the position you'rein now.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Well, we had a big rainstorm back in June I think
it was June 19th or June 20ththere, so roughly three months
ago now and the forecast calledfor about 45 to 55 millimeters
of rain and it caused completeflooding in the streets.
You were driving your car andit was pretty much past your
tires kind of thing.
(05:03):
Not so high it was, um.
And because of that rain we hada flood in our uh place that
we're renting out here incalgary and they were doing a
roof uh repair or rework orwhatever because of the hail
damage from the the year before.
So they came in they'reprobably about a week or so into
(05:24):
the job with the roof and thatbig storm hit us there and it
flooded all three floors of ourtownhouse that we're renting
there.
So it's a three bedroomtownhouse and it flooded the two
bedrooms upstairs.
It went through the interiorwalls and the exterior walls.
It was going through theceiling fan.
(05:46):
On the bathrooms upstairs itwas leaking through the washer
and dryer and then on the mainfloor it was pouring out above
the kitchen there, above thestove and the island.
It was coming through thekitchen window there.
Pretty good, probably the worstwas the kitchen window there.
It had to remove all thedrywall around all the windows,
(06:06):
some interior walls.
They had to take out somedrywall there as well,
insulation.
And that was three months agoand I've been dealing with
issues ever since of, he saysshe said back and forth
conversation of who'sresponsible.
The roofing company says it'snot our fault at first.
Then the catalyst, which is ourproperty management, went after
them and then our propertymanager was Truman Rentals, or
(06:33):
contract manager was TrumanRentals and they were getting
involved and they were followingthrough.
And then Truman, their contractended on August 1st and the
landlord took over August 1stand he was blindsided.
He said he had no idea what wasgoing on.
So he got involved and todaythey're finally starting to
actually do some work onprogression, on fixing it.
(06:53):
But it's been about threemonths of back and forth
conversation and then when theyoriginally took out the walls
that they had to take out, theyfound mold and so it's been back
and forth with molds and,trying to get that tested and
dealt with, had to call AlbertaTenant Services to get them
involved.
So it was quite the ordeal.
(07:14):
It's still going on but youknow, hopefully things are
looking up now.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
But where are you staying while all this is taking
place, or how do you do thatwhen everything's in turmoil
there?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
well, all this has taken place, or how do you do
that when everything's inturmoil there?
Well, myself I was working inEdmonton and then back and forth
there, but more or less we'vebeen told to live in the
situation, because half thehouse was wrecked and half the
house was fine, so the masterbedroom didn't have any damage.
So they said, oh, it's stilllivable.
I've gotten Alberta HealthServices involved and so we were
(07:48):
still living in the house, andnow we're probably going to be
looking at some kind of asettlement here coming up
because we were living in anunlivable condition.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Now how many units in your complex there?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
now there's how many units uh in your complex there.
So there was um, I believe itwas.
It's either 12 or 24, because Ican't remember if the uh other
half of it was affected.
But in my direct one all 12units were uh were damaged there
um three of them were deemedunlivable like right away
because how bad it was for them.
A couple of them were veryunlivable right away because of
how bad it was for them.
A couple of them were veryminor.
Ours was one of the worst onesas well, but they didn't deem it
(08:30):
unlivable because I woke up at4 o'clock or 3 o'clock in the
morning, as I normally do to goto work, and it turns out that I
was able to catch, probably Ithink one of our flowerpots was
this seven gallon flower pots.
I mean, that's like cat.
It was over seven gallons inthe one flower pot, kind of
(08:52):
things that empty out threetimes.
So Wow.
So it was coming down prettygood.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, so the rain.
You've had quite a bit of rainout there for a while, haven't
you?
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well, it's uh it's been a very wet summer here in
Calgary.
Everyone's like you know thenew slogan in Calgary was Blue
Sky City and everyone's like arewe sure about that, because you
know we were having a veryVancouver summer.
It was rain almost every otherday.
I think we've only gotten otherthan this week now.
It's been nice weather, butbefore that we had maybe five
(09:28):
days of just clear skies, ofsunniness for the last couple of
months there.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Right, and right now you're into a bit of a heat wave
there.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, so it's reaching temperatures right
around 30, just over 30 degreesand a bit of a heat wave right
now, very clear blue skies, kindof thing.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Wow, so a big change from all the rain now to all the
clear blue skies and 30 plusdegree Celsius weather.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah, it's like we're getting, you know, maybe a week
or two of actual Calgary summer, and then I'm sure fall will be
right around the corner now.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Isn't that the truth?
So what kind of projects you'reworking on?
Are you working on a housingproject or something like that
coming up?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, so in Calgary the housing market, or
residential, is just completelyexploded.
Here, like almost everywhere wego in the city, they are
putting up condos, apartments,houses left, right and center.
I know where I'm living up inthe northeast of Calgary.
There they're probably puttingin another, at least another six
or 700 homes that are probablybeing started and there's
probably still bagging land foranother thousand or 2000,.
(10:35):
At least in that one area andI'm in the Southwest of Calgary
right now and there's I'll justtake a count right now, so just
at work right here.
So we got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16
, I would say because they'rejust starting to drill another
one here 16 apartments or condoareas being built and they're
(11:00):
about six stories each and theyare, let's say, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
, 7, 8.
So and then probably about 16units per floor.
So they're putting up houseshere left, right and center.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, so, and just so people know we're recording the
podcast while you're on breakout there.
I'm on break right now, so andwhat about what happened with
what was happening in Edmonton?
I thought you were working outin Edmonton.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Yeah, so I was out in Edmonton there for just over a
month and we were doing a netzero hydrogen project.
I believe it's still going on,but I don't know much more
details about that one.
But Edmonton was, they weredoing a lot of expansions, a lot
of development there as well.
I know that they have a new LRTsystem, so LRT is a light rail
transit system, so they weredoing a lot of highway
(11:58):
reconstruction there.
They were doing a lot of theLRT work there.
And then they had that net zerohydrogen project and that was a
very huge project there.
I think they had over I thinkit was over 14 or 15 hundred
workers already registered towork at that project.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So when I first got there, and not only that, but
there's new outlet malls beingbuilt, or you're working on
those too, or those are comingup, so quite a bit of stuff
happening there.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, I've been a little bit all over right now,
which normally is how my workgoes.
So then in the far East sideand the far west side of calgary
they're expanding across thering road there, and the ring
road is just that new highwaythat they built that surrounds
the entire city and now they'restanding on the other side of it
so they're putting in new stripmalls there and things like
that as well as um shoppingcenters.
(12:47):
So if you ever look at like, uh, those smart center places
where there's like a Walmart anda grocery store, there's a
dollar store, usually a coupleof smaller stores in there, a
lot of that's been going uparound here in Calgary now.
So they're developing more ofthose smaller zones kind of
thing.
And then there's another bigproject starting up in Red Deer,
which my company I work for hasa project for they're doing a
(13:09):
new hospital out there and thatone just got started, I believe
either last week or two weeksago now.
So that's another big projectcoming up, for I guess for
Alberta, for that matter.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh yeah, and something about a new apartment
building as well.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, so I was on a new apartment building for and
this one was right by thechildren's hospital there here
in Calgary, and that one was abig project, I think in one week
.
We had over 1200 tons of steelput in in one week, which is a.
We had a RAS slab and a coupleof transfer slabs as well.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
What do you mean by transfer slabs and stuff?
Speaker 5 (13:45):
So a transfer slab is from, say, commercial, so for
storefronts or parking garage orthings like that that are going
to be more commercial use, andthe transfer slab from there
after what we do is we have atransfer slab design, so as the
shift weights or the demand forholding up a certain amount of
(14:07):
weight and stuff like thatchanges, there's a transfer slab
that goes in.
So then once the transfer slabgoes in, it goes to typical, and
typical would just be your.
You know, every single floor iskind of the same thing.
So a transfer slab is designedto take the shifting of weight,
demand and things like that.
And so usually a transfer slabwe had about on this one was, I
think it was, 18,000 hairpins intotal, which a hairpin connects
(14:29):
a top mat to a bottom mat andthat just helps ties it together
.
So if there's a seismicactivity or weight shift kind of
thing, it helps stabilize thetransfer of weight there.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So do they actually just sit on top of each other?
How does that work?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
So they'll kind of hook into each other.
So there's like think of a gridsystem or like a math kind of
paper, those grid lines thereThere'll be a top one and a
bottom one, and then those linesare what the bars are going to
look like, and that hairpin willhook the top mat and the bottom
mat together and that'll helpstabilize for more weight shift
(15:08):
and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So you mentioned during seismic activity.
So if there's an earthquake,then these two pads shift on
each other.
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, they're designed to take transfers of
weight Even, for example, like acar underneath and people up
top there.
You know the way the weightchanges is designed to flow or
time to have a bit of swaydesign with weight change.
Like people don't realize it,but there is always a little bit
of drift in some of thesebuildings, like when you get up
(15:41):
high and say the CN Tower.
You may not feel it but youknow a one inch drift is a lot
of tension all the way down atthe very bottom there.
So even if it's a couple milsof you know weight change kind
of thing they anticipate forhuge amounts of stress and
pressure because that transferslab is going to be the key
point of where all that weightis going to be pinpointed, that
kind of thing.
So that's why those hairpinsare there, allowed to stabilize
(16:04):
the steel better and tostabilize the weight of the
building.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
So even from, like you mentioned, like a car, like
a car park, is you know if theyhave a car park, garage, sort of
thing?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, so that I meant like, for example, the one I
was doing was a car garageunderneath the building.
So as those cars are driving,if they have a truck in there
kind of thing, if the weightscan be changing as they drive
across, that will transfer thatmotion, will transfer into the
slab and the slab is designed tomore or less take that transfer
weight of the cars going in andout, kind of thing.
(16:38):
So from there even commercial,where there could be a lot of
demand for a lot more weight tobe designed on those commercials
space that they're going tobuild there too.
So they are designed to takethe weight of an X amount of
factors.
But we build stuff inada to 100times its capacity, so it's
(16:59):
always well over designed justin case of you never know what's
going to happen oh okay, sowell, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, so, yeah, so the net zero stuff is still
moving.
But uh, you're part of that.
Uh, in edmonton's all finished,right?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
yeah, they're um, we pushed them ahead pretty good so
it got to the point where rebarwork was starting to get a
little bit slower there.
But, like, structural work willstart picking up and then, for
example, pipe finish will pickup because it is going to be a
lot of structural steel, a lotof pipes, a lot of compressors,
boiler makers are going to beinvolved.
So there'll be a lot more ofthat work going on because we've
(17:35):
done all the ground work andstability work there.
So now you'll be running allyour pipes, everything else
there, that in in edmonton,which is not my field of work
yeah, yeah, and so you'veapplied elsewhere, uh, for some
other camp jobs.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Whereabouts have you applied?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
so I made a phone call, uh, not too while ago, to
the sudbury local there becausethey have the rights for the
ring of fire job and that ringof fire is a big mine that's
going up in northern Ontariolike I think.
I can't remember exactlocations, but it'll be
somewhere like probably morenorth of Timmins, I believe, or
around that same scope of areathere.
(18:12):
But there's no development inthat area yet, so there's no
highway or infrastructure.
So it would be like a fly-inand take a bush plane and
probably land on a dirt road oropen area kind of thing and go
to work kind of thing.
But they said that might startup in the fall.
They don't have anything yetbecause projects change
constantly, timelines change, sowe might not have work for us
(18:35):
this year.
But I put my name on the listand I apply there and they said
if something comes up they'llhappen there.
The guy said there's a coupleof gold mines going up in
Ontario again, so if they needmore guys there he'll give me a
call.
But you never know how thingsgo.
I can wake up tomorrow morning,get a phone call and say hey,
we need to fly you to Nunavutthere because they're building a
(18:55):
new diamond mine and they needguys now, so everything's
different.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Oh, I thought it was Yukon or Northwest that you
applied at a gold mine as well.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I did apply for one up there in Yukon.
There that one, they were ableto fill it with just local guys.
There it was a very small crew.
I think they only ran with fiveguys this time, so it wasn't
like as big as anticipated.
But I didn't get that one.
But there is a lot of goldmines, stuff like that,
happening in none of theNorthwest territories and Yukon
(19:26):
as well.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, with the price of gold that's going on out
there, it's certainly inspiringa lot of gold facilities to get
mobile with price so high.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Oh, absolutely Like.
Demand is just insane.
Ontario has or Canada for thatmatter has one of the biggest
supplies, but most of our goldis all bedrock gold or hard rock
gold, so it's all a harderprocess to get it out of the
ground, kind of thing.
So it's just not worth it'swhile, until technology is
finally catching up now.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, and if you remember when we were outside at
Timmins and we went in to getan oil change on your truck and
you walked down that trail wherethey had tailings, they used
tailings to fill the trail inwhich is essentially comes out
of the mine as kind of scraprock and you found that chunk of
quartz that was just filledwith gold, yep.
(20:17):
So there's a lot of things thatkeep an eye out.
You're kind of surprised atwhat you can find, where and how
those things work, and I knowsome of the mines.
It depends on what the gold isin, and if it's in with iron ore
it's really hard to extract.
So a lot of times what they'lldo is they will let the iron ore
(20:37):
be exposed to water and startto rust.
And when it starts to rust andwear out after years the iron
ore is gone but the gold is leftover and then they do the
extraction process there becauseit's not quite as costly to
separate the two.
But gold and quartz apparentlyis about the easiest to get out
from what I understand.
(20:58):
But I'm far from an expert.
I mean I've had a prospectinglicense for I don't know, 25, 30
years kind of thing, but nevergotten that far into it and I
know up in Timmins I had thepleasure to go down in North
America's deepest heavy metalsmine and we went down like 7,500
(21:22):
feet.
They've got a train, a littlemini train, that's down below,
that runs, I think it's I'm notsure if it's the road or the
train that goes 26 kilometersjust the way it kind of circles
down in the ground and it's kindof amazing to see.
But yeah, working in an actualgold mine was unbelievable and
it's kind of amazing to see.
But yeah, working in a in aactual gold mine was
unbelievable and the maintenanceshed in there, if you took, you
(21:43):
couldn't throw a ball highenough to hit the ceiling and
the maintenance shed it was thathigh and the size of the, the,
the elevators, they theelevators to go up and down in
there.
There was two elevators and oneheld like 150 people.
Can you imagine an elevatorholding 150 people and the
infrastructure to be able tohaul it up and down?
(22:04):
It was kind of amazing.
But yeah, there's a lot ofdifferent things out there and
certainly what's happening withthe gold market is impacting.
So what else is happening outin Calgary?
What are you up to this comingweekend?
You going glamping?
Speaker 5 (22:19):
No, probably not going to go glamping, but I
think plans changed a little bit.
But we might go up for a hikethere in the Banff area Not too
sure exactly where, we haven'tpicked yet.
But we're also going to checkthe weather the day before,
because the way the weather goessometimes in Banff it could be
calling for sun and then you,you know you drive out there an
hour later and so you're in themiddle of a thunderstorm.
(22:39):
So but we're probably going togo hiking this this weekend up
in Banff, Probably in the yeah,probably Banff.
We'll probably go to, like,maybe Lake Louise, something
like that.
Try and just enjoy the sightsthere, because it will be the
long weekend, I'm sure it'll bebusy, but it'll be nice to just
(23:00):
get some time out and do alittle bit of hiking in the
mountains there.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, oh, and up at the cottage.
I'm not sure if I told you ornot, but I'm regularly seeing a
bear up there.
Now it looks like we've got aresident small bear up there
that's hanging in the area.
It's probably not this year'sbut last year's cup.
It looks like it's about thesame size as the chocolate lab
gunner and it's.
It's a cute little thing, but,oh my lord, I can just imagine
(23:25):
it's cute now.
In a couple of years from now,if it stays in the area and the
food forage base is there, itcould be very problematic it's
probably going after all theturkeys we see up there now yeah
, I saw some turkeys up there.
But you know, and like Pierresays, for those who listen to
the podcast that I had Pierre,he says one thing with bears is
in his camps that he had theynever go out the same way they
(23:48):
went in.
So they'd smash a window to gointo the camp to tear it up and
find food or whatever, and thenthey would go out a different
window rather than going out thesame one.
They went in.
So and they can do a lot ofdamage too.
But it's like anything, and Ithink Gunner's putting the run
to this one on a regular basis,because when we do our walks all
of a sudden he's taken off likecrazy and I can't figure out
(24:10):
what he's after.
But I'm assuming it's the bearbecause it's right in the same
area.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Wouldn't be surprised he is a strong dog.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, yeah, and you take Brittany's Doberman with
you when you go for a hike aswell.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Yeah, belle, there, she'll be probably coming with
us as well.
I guess I might pick a more ofa dog-friendly hike than more of
a steep climb one, but yeah,she'll come with us.
She's still full of Piss andvinegar, as the people say,
because she just keeps going andgoing and going, and every time
we take her to daycare whereboth of us are working and don't
have time to be at home to walkher, let her out, we'll put her
(24:51):
in daycare, and they always say, oh, she's just always a joy to
be around, and she just goesnonstop.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, listen, garrett, I knowyou got to get back to work
because you're only on break andI'm get back to work because
you're only on break and I'mmonitoring the time for you.
So it looks like it's gettingpretty close.
So by the time you shut off andwalk, get where you need to be,
you'll be back on time, and wereally appreciate the update and
everything that's happening outwest.
Keep up the good work and welook forward to seeing you back
(25:18):
here again and hopefullysomething pans out up at the
ring of the fire, which isactually actually more not so
much north of Timmins, butprobably south of Paraprovincial
Park, between there andManitoba border, up Hudson's Bay
lowlands, not so much James Bay, but that's always good.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah, like I said, I wasn't exactly sure where that
was, but I know it was somewhereway up there.
But it's a big footprint.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Oh yeah, well, that's how sudbury was founded was
because a meteorite hit thereand the impact was so deep that
it brought up a lot of mineralsfrom the earth's core.
But now they're finding thatnot only did that meteorite hit
there, but there was probablyother ones north of there that
hit at the same time thatbrought up the minerals up there
(26:04):
.
And sudbury and the TorontoStock Exchange was founded on
the mining industry and thiswill be another huge boom for
Ontario.
So, just like you said, you gotto get the infrastructure up
there, because there's onlywinter roads, there's no regular
roads, so it's a pretty remotemine and pretty hard to get into
.
But it'll be certainly abenefit for everybody in the
province of Ontario because,like they say, you know, if you
(26:29):
can't grow it, you've got tomine it in order to be able to
use it.
And I'm looking around whereI'm sitting, just full of metal
everywhere.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Absolutely.
Anyways, the boss has steppedout, so I've got to get going
here.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Okay well, thanks very much for the update,
Garrett, and that's justsomething a little bit different
out there under the canopy.
Thanks again, Garrett.
Say hi to Brittany.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
No problem, I will do Take care now.
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