September 15, 2025 • 30 mins
Jerry Ouellette shares updates from his off-grid cottage work and growing frustrations with corporate veterinary clinics that are changing policies and raising prices.
• Dealing with a total fire ban at the cottage while needing to clear brush and fallen trees
• Completed major structural work replacing a 22-foot section of 8x8 beam using pony walls
• Building new dock cribbing with hemlock lumber due to historically low water levels
• Managing his chocolate lab Gunner's hot spots that develop after swimming
• Gunner uniquely asks to have his teeth brushed by standing between Jerry and the sink
• Corporate veterinary clinics now requiring annual visits before providing medications
• Approximately 60% of veterinary clinics now owned by corporations according to Marketplace
• Prices doubling for basic services after corporate takeover of local vet clinic
• Similar corporate ownership patterns affecting golf courses and reducing community programs
• Some pet owners turning to international telemedicine and medication services for affordability
If you have questions or suggestions for future episodes, please reach out. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes featuring John Snell the tea expert and updates on Chaga harvesting.
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Now we did a bit of an updatewith Garrett and I'm just going
to expand on some of the otherstuff you know and the things
that I've been doing.
So I'm sitting here recordingthe podcast and I've got to tell
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you I've got two wrist guardson because Carpal Tunnel and
stuff it was one of thosesleepless nights and I've been
pushing it too hard, doing stuffthat maybe 30 years ago would
have been something accepted.
But hey, I'm a male and I'mstubborn and I'm sticking to it
and I'll just keep doing it,even though Diane, my charming
and lovely wife, may not say so.
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But hey, that's the way it is.
I've got to tell you, up at thecamp where I'm doing all the
work, they got a total fire banon and that's making it a little
bit tough in that we're doing alot of brushwork, a lot of
cleanup, a lot of stuff that uh,fallen trees that have been
down for the longest time andyou try and burn a lot of that
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stuff.
But with a total fire ban on upat the cottage you can't burn
anything at any time becausewhen that fire ban comes off,
I'll bet you I have at leastthree fires going just to get
caught up in all the scrub andthe brush and everything else.
And of course with the logcabin we want to make sure
everything's safe.
But, like the log home builderswill tell you, round logs just
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don't burn.
But anyways, yeah, so it's alittle bit tough with the fire,
total fire ban, but I understand.
I mean they've had a number offires that took quite a bit to
get control of.
Up near what was there Kinmountone and Bob Cage in another and
I was just talking to a fireguy out of Kin kin mount and he
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was telling me up Barry's Baywaythat there's a good size fire
that they're having difficultygetting control of there.
So I imagine that they'll.
They will keep the fire ban onfor a while until we get a bit
more rain, but they're callingfor a big downpour tomorrow
which may mess up my daytomorrow.
But that's the way it is.
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That's the way it goes and weneed the rain in order to get
that fire ban taken care of.
And for those that don't know,it's the fire chiefs locally
that make the decision onwhether there's a fire ban,
which that's what they're in theposition for, and it's what's
called the when I was Ministerof Natural Resources.
It's the indices that they lookat to determine the likelihood
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of problematic fires.
And what that is is when thewinter comes in and the snow
load comes in.
If it's a good amount of snow,that's one thing.
But because when it melts, alot of times you're hoping it
seeps in the ground.
However, if it's a fast meltand the ground is frozen,
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nothing seeps in.
I can recall back living in thelate 70s in a place called
Crooked Creek and Crooked Creek.
I can recall snow in June inthe bush.
Still, the snow load was sohigh at that time.
What the heck.
I can recall snow in June inthe bush, still that the snow
load was so high at that time.
What the heck.
I can recall those times andthose days that if you walked
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out and stood on the snowbankyou could grab the hydro wires.
That's how high the snowbankwas and it was really kind of
neat that they had thesespecialty plows that plowed it
was about six, eight feet up topush the snow bank back farther
so that they could get the nextload of snow up on top of that.
That's how bad the snow was.
But that's what happens and youget it in June and what that
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means is a slow melt like thatgets a lot of moisture in the
ground and nice and deep intothe ground so that you don't get
these likelihood of as much asrain or forest fire problems
because the ground andeverything is so dry.
But we had it was a pretty goodwinter snow-wise, snow
load-wise.
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I don't know how it came out inthe spring, but we had a pretty
dry period.
So the indices or thelikelihood of fire is probably
pretty high in the area until weget a lot of rain and it soaks
into the ground and it removesthat so it can work out.
But doing a lot of stuff, I knowI had, I had the boys uh, josh
and garrett out and and bert andwe we had to replace a beam.
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So, um, plus some support forit, because some wood got rot,
got into the one post and wentall the way up the post and
right where the post connectedto the 8x8 was a white pine or
red pine, I can't remember beamthat got in there and that
started to rot.
So I had to replace a 22-footsection of 8x8 beam.
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Now sounds really easy, butyou've got to build pony walls.
Now sounds really easy, but yougot to build pony walls and a
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pony wall is kind of like a twoby four structure of 16 inch
centers all the way across,eight feet long to hold up to
support what the beam issupporting, because you just
can't lift it up.
So then we had to jack it up,used a three-ton jack with some
special support there to push itup, put the pony wall in, let
it down and then be able toremove the beam and then take
out the support post that wasrotten, put the whole thing in.
It was quite an ordeal but wewere well prepared.
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We had lots of ladders, we hadlots of hydro there, lots of
generators to back up, becauseyou got to remember we're off
grid there, so we're running allthe power equipment by
generators.
So we had to make sure that theskill saws and the drills and
everything else were workingproperly and the saws, alls and
et cetera, et cetera.
So we had the generators goingbut with the hard work of Bert
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and Garrett and Josh and all ofus, we were able to get that
done.
And now I'm moving on to otherstuff.
Like I mentioned, it was just alittle bit sore, but we're
building new.
The water is really low in thelake.
I haven't seen it this low inprobably well, let me see over
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25 years.
I would say Never seen it solow, and what that means is that
all the shore is receded back.
So it's quite a ways out.
And now what we're doing isbuilding platforms and cribbing
as it used to be, and what I'mdoing is repairing the cribs
that were there.
You know, we we downsized it abit.
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Instead of a six by what, about24 feet of cribbing.
We're going to about 20 feet ofcribbing and downsized it a bit
, still using quite a bit of thethe original stuff that's there
, but just cut it down andputting it out there.
And I gotta tell, to tell you,for cribbing, some of the best
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wood that we're using isactually hemlock.
So I went to a local mill downin Bancroft and they'll they
mill up a rough cut hemlock.
So I've got four by fours.
The cribbing before was threeby threes and it worked pretty
good.
And all the stuff that was inthe water after 20-25 years so
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about 22-23 years I think iswhen we put that in, maybe close
to 25, and we put the dock inand that was still great.
So I still reused a lot of thehemlock that was there before
and just added some new stufffor the new size that we cut it
down to, and so we got all thatdone.
And then using and just addedsome new stuff for the new size
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that we cut it down to, and sowe got all that done, and then
using four by four stringers toput the planks on, and then
we'll be building a floatingdock as opposed to taking out
another crib and reduce thatfootprint out in the water and
take the old crib out and thenjust put a floating dock there.
So it's better for theenvironment.
Although we're allowed to, Idon't know if it's changed that
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much, but it used to be up to100 square foot of cribbing
without requiring permits andstuff like that, but we were way
, way, way below that and nowwe're even below that.
Yeah, so I'll be using 16 foot4x4 hemlock on top of the
cribbing that's there andconnecting it to a base that
I've built just offshore withthe cement cornerstones, kind of
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things that you can put 4x4 or6x6s in there, and then we cut
that to the height of cedar thatI want in there to make it all
level.
The only thing is I'll have toput out some steps to get down
from the top level down, and wekept it off the ground to make
sure it doesn't start to rot,because the old stringers were
directly on the ground and afterwell, it lasted, you know,
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pretty close to 25 years.
So it was pretty good that thecedar or the hemlock that was on
the shore lasted that long.
But it's on the shore anddirectly on the ground.
It started to rot right there.
So we took that off and put itup on concrete to get it off the
ground on shore, and plus, weused all the rocks that were in
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there and just filled with greenbullfrogs, which was nice to
see no leopard frogs, just thebullfrogs and there was a lot of
dragonfly larvae swimming inthe water.
So we want to make sure thatthey stay around because they
get rid of those mosquitoes enmasse, which is good, so yeah,
so we built up the pony wall, wereplaced the 8x8 beam there,
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and now we're working on thecribbing and then I've got some
metal roof to do so.
When we had the ice storm, wehad a tree come down off the
neighbor's property.
When we had the ice storm, wehad a tree come down off the
neighbor's property, clipped theedge of ours, and now I had to
get a 16-foot section of metalroof to replace the one that
went through our roof up at thetop.
But I've got to get someexpertise in to do that.
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So I've got somebody who's anexpert in metal roofing
Stoughton and I'll get Terrydown to help us out and they'll
take care of the metal roofingStoughton.
And I'll get Terry down to helpus out and they'll take care of
the metal roof problems.
But while they're up there,they're going to cut some vent
holes for us and I got the woodstove coming in as well, so that
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remember, we're off grid, sowe're running whatever we have.
We've got some solar there, aswell as generators, backups and
things like that Run a lot ofthe stuff.
And then for heat we had beenusing propane heaters and I had
a number of those salamandertypes and area space ones, and
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this is a lot of ventilation, soit's not a problem.
Of course I've got carbonmonoxide detectors all over the
place to make sure there's noissues there.
But we'll replace that with awood-burning stove.
And guess what?
With all the wood that we'vetaken down up there, we'll have
lots of wood and that's what'sadded to my wearing of the wrist
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guards.
So I've got the metal roofprepared.
I'm going to get some ventingholes because I've got to get
the septic vent hole to vent upthrough the metal roof and it's
pretty hard to find somebodywith some expertise to do that
because the plumbing guys theydidn't want to have anything to
do with it.
You know they said, look, wecould try.
But we're not experts and ifit's leaked it's not our fault.
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You know advance warning.
But I've got somebody now thatshould be able to take care of
that.
Otherwise you get I think Terrysaid it was methane gas coming
in and you can smell the methanegas just the way it cycles
through.
But that'll all be taken careof and should be done in the
next couple of weeks.
So we're getting lots of workdone up there.
But I got to tell you, normallyI start off the program talking
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about my chocolate lab Ensign,gunner, and Gunner, he's been
good.
But when he swims in the lakehe gets a hot spot.
And these hot spots drive me alittle bit crazy in that it's
kind of like oh, how's itdescribe it Kind of an open sore
that oozes some kind of an oilysubstance, and it's pretty easy
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to spot.
But it's every time and ithappened with Strider, our
previous lab the same thing whenhe was out swimming in this
water.
For some reason these hot spotswould come up, and then we have
to get him on antibiotics.
And of course I'm going to getinto the vet stuff a little bit,
because I'm a little bit tickedoff with what's happening with
vets in the province of Ontario,because, anyways, but yeah, so
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I'm taking care of that.
And the other thing is, I'm notsure if I mentioned this or not,
but Gunner, he's got this habit.
So if I'm in the washroom, thebathroom, and I'm at the sink,
he'll walk in between me and thesink and he'll look up at me
and that means he wants histeeth brushed.
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How many of you out there knowdogs that want their teeth
brushed?
He comes in.
All right, all right, I'm in arush but we'll hurry up.
So I'll brush his teeth for himand he's happy.
You can tell he gets that biglab smile and just loves it.
But I use a bit of a specialtythree-sided toothbrush.
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That I use and when you getsome of the it's hard to find
now but previously it workedpretty good and mostly most
people don't know this.
But you get a lot of bad breathin dogs.
That's because most of the timeit it's bacteria and you'll get
a lot of rotten teeth that'llgive them that bad breath.
Gunner, gunner's what?
Six or six, now six and a halfand no bad breath at all because
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, guess what, I'm brushing histeeth all the time.
So that's good and I'm sure itmakes him feel good as well.
But I wanted to mention I'm abit ticked off with what's
happening with the veterinaryclinics in the province of
Ontario and I see it'sCanada-wide as well.
So I'd been going to a vetclinic and the one I had been
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going to, the vets retired andthey were spectacular.
I used to drive over an hour toget up to it just simply
because I got to tell you andthere's good vets around just to
tell you, and there's a lot ofthem, but you got to find the
right ones that you can, youknow, mesh with and everything
goes smoothly.
And we had the Dr Schroeder'sin Fenlon Falls where it was
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spectacular Love going up there.
But when they retired I startedlooking around to find some
good vets and I found one.
So we'd been going there andguess what?
Strider was going there andBenny, josh's dog.
Well, I guess he was takingcare of Benny a lot, but Benny
goes with us to the vet where wewere going.
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And I showed up and I said look,I need some more flea and tick
medication for Gunnar and Benny.
And they said oh well, benny'sokay because he's been in, but
we haven't seen Gunnar in a year, so you have to bring him in
before we can give you any fleaand tick medication.
I said what, what's that allabout?
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I said it was always before.
You know, the dog was sick.
They took him into the vet, thevet took care of it and you
know, the next time you saw himwas when he needed something
taken care of or he needed shotsor whatever.
Was when he needed somethingtaken care of or he needed shots
or whatever.
And they said, oh no, no, it'saccording to the veterinary
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college that those are the rulesthat we can't give your dog
anything unless we see your dogevery year.
I said when the hell did thisstart?
And they're like what?
Oh well, I said where does itsay that?
Well, that's what we were told.
I said where does it say it inlegislation?
Of course you know, having beenthe minister and in politics
for as many years as I have, youknow a lot of this stuff that
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comes out is complete crap.
And that's what that was.
And it ticked me right off, youknow, and I was like, excuse me.
I said, uh, what?
So I said, you know, andwhere's my vet?
I always had, because when I goto a clinic it's like I want
the same vet to see my dog allthe time, so the vet gets to
know it.
You know, the dog knows the vet.
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Not only that, they got a goodrelationship, and when there's a
problem he knows the history.
So I kept seeing different vetsand I'm going like, well,
where's my regular vet?
Anyways, they said that oh,he's no longer here and I
thought what's going on withthat?
And well, we can give you someflea and tick medication this
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time, but we're going to have tosee Gunnar before the next time
.
We need some more.
I'm like what, anyway?
So I go there pick up the fleaand tick medication.
And I asked you know?
I said you know what happenedwith my regular vet and they
said, oh well, try such and such.
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So next time something comes up, I find out, track him down.
He's now at a differentlocation.
I have a conversation with himand I said like hey, what's
going on?
What happened?
Like, how come you left theclinic?
I mean, you started that clinicand you're not there anymore?
He said well, most people don'tknow this.
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His words were, I think he said60 percent of all veterinary
clinics have been bought up bymajor corporations in.
Uh, and, and I gotta tell you,marketplace did a a special on
it because on, and it came outjanuary 24th and you can talk
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about it because it talks aboutcorporate vets and how, and it
says there that a lot ofinternational companies are
buying up all these vet clinics.
Well, and I couldn't figure outwhy.
Well, what dog food do you feedyour dog?
What?
Since when have you ever askedthat question?
I've had dogs for my entirelife.
I've never had anybody you knowkind of question with dog food
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and all that kind of stuff.
Like where did this all comefrom?
Well, my vet told me.
He said look, a corporationcame to us, they bought up the
clinic.
They made us an offer wecouldn't refuse and we had.
He was under the impression thatit would be the status quo and
continue on, but anyways,anyways, it certainly didn't.
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So he left and got frustratedand he was the one that informed
me that, like I said, and Ithink the uh marketplace show I
mentioned 40 odd percent of allclinics in the province of
ontario are now corporatelyowned.
And so now they're goingthrough all this crap where you
have to come in every year andyou have to do this and that and
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everything else and that, uh,in order to be able to use their
services, which was never theway it was.
So when I'm shopping around,the first question I ask when I
go into a veterinary clinic noware you corporately owned?
And it's kind of hard to findthem, but certainly it's not all
profit based, as this is on somany other different way
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companies operate, and that'swhat this whole thing is all
about these companies, and I gotto tell you the price to clip
my dog's nails when he was in.
So I take him in and said, ohwell, he's in, you can clip his
nails, sure it'd be this price.
That price has doubled sincethey went corporate and
everything else has justskyrocketed in prices and it's
driving me crazy and a lot ofother people.
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I mean, we got a friend aroundthe corner that has kind of a
Burmese mountain Burmese StBernard cross and it's the only
dog that doesn't get along withGunner and actually it bit
Gunner and we got infected andit cost me quite a bit of money
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to get that taken care of.
But these people have had enoughof all this crap that's going
on.
And my understanding now.
I didn't speak to them directlybecause when they're there with
their dog I don't take my dogout, so we don't really see each
other a lot.
But the others were telling methat they were getting a lot of
their medication out ofAustralia.
So what they do is this kind ofit's kind of like a tele-vet
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sort of thing where they wereusing vets out of Australia and
getting their medication is,from what I understand, shipped
from there.
I could be wrong, but I'mpretty sure she said Australia
and they would send up themedication from there.
Yeah, it takes a bit of time toget here but price wise, it's
like a third the cost of themedication for the exact same
stuff coming from there, andthey just plan in advance and
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take care of it in that way.
And I think you're going to seemore people doing the same
thing, because the way thesecorporate veterinary clinics are
operating, I'm disgusted inthem that it's solely
profit-based and that's appearsto be.
I just getting wound up aboutit because it ticks me off to no
end that this sort of stuffhappens.
But that's the way things aregoing and I understand.
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I happen and for those thatdon't know, I do enjoy getting
out for a round of golfoccasionally.
Most of the time I play nineholes once a week whenever
possible, and I happened to beout.
Josh took me out for Father'sDay and we got paired up with
another couple and the otherperson one of the couples was a
female who actually was aspectacular golfer that was on a
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golf scholarship.
She had been on a golfscholarship down in the States
and came back and worked as agolf pro and she was telling me
that she works with now all theschools for the golf teams to
play in the competition for thehigh schools throughout southern
Ontario.
And she was saying that I askedabout so which golf courses do
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they use?
Well, they use this one, thatone.
I said, what about this one?
Oh, well, that one golf coursehas been bought up by a
corporation and they don'tprovide any of that kind of
stuff for the students now toget involved in golfing.
And I said what?
And she said, said, yeah, majorcorporations, just like, I'm
sure, the vet things, where it's, whether it's local or
international companies buyingup all these, in this case golf
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courses.
And now it's all about theprofit.
And I and I can see what'shappening with a lot of them,
because that's what's takingplace is it's not the same kind
of great relationship you hadbefore.
Now it's all about dollars andcents which is taken away from a
lot of the places.
So when I'm checking with golfcourses where I play, I ask if
they're corporate or not.
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In the same way, when I'masking around at vets, uh, if
they're a corporate operation ornot, and I stay right away from
them because I don't want toput up with all that mandated
prices that, uh, virtually allthe same at every one of them
whatever you call that, on topof all the stuff that they're
making up like, oh, we have tosee you, mandated to see you
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once a year.
So if you're interested, outthere, take a look, because I'm
sure a lot of people don't knowwhat's happening.
They just wondered why, all ofa sudden, these prices are kind
of way out of line.
But so things are happening outthere.
Gunner's doing well, I got hishot spot under control, and not
only that, but I'm sure he'll beback in the water this coming
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weekend, so we'll have to keepan eye on it.
But and it's antibiotics and acream that we put on it but, uh,
it's, it's a lot of us, if youdo it with our pet, I mean, how
many people do you know brushyour dog's teeth?
So obviously we're taking careof him to a pretty good plus.
He gets his his runs usually acouple of times a day.
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But when we're up at the camp,or the cottage as they call it
in Southern Ontario, he getslots of exercise there and just
loves going out down to thewater and he'll just.
What's he doing out there?
He's just gone for a swim, orelse what's he chasing?
Oh, maybe it's that bear upthere.
But that's a little bit of theupdate of what's happening.
Hopefully we got a big raincoming tomorrow that'll take the
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fire ban off so we can get somefires going and clean up a lot
of the brush and all the rottenwood that's around, or is going
and clean up a lot of the brushand all the rotten wood that's
around, or we end up taking tothe dump and they'll burn it
there, but they charge us forthat.
So those are just some of thethings that are happening out
there.
But, as I mentioned before, I'mgoing to try and get John Snell
back on.
He's the tea guy, which I foundfascinating.
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We had some recording problemsand as soon as he's get back
from Pakistan we'll try and getthem back on and re-record some
of those sections and talk aboutthe things that I wasn't able
to get back out.
Anyways, it's always a pleasure.
If you've got any questions, askthem.
We'll do a weekend to answerthem.
If you've got any suggestionsfor a show, let us know.
And that's just something alittle bit different, a little
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bitch and beef and complainingand updates on what's happening
out there under the canopy, andpretty soon in about, oh,
probably about three weeks we'llstart to get ready to start
doing our Chaga harvest and headup to check to make sure
everything's up to par andwhat's taking place there.
All right, thanks for listening.
Have a great day.
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We'd be more than happy to dowhat we can.
Now we did a bit of an updatewith Garrett and I'm just going
to expand on some of the otherstuff you know and the things
that I've been doing.
So I'm sitting here recordingthe podcast and I've got to tell
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you I've got two wrist guardson because Carpal Tunnel and
stuff it was one of thosesleepless nights and I've been
pushing it too hard, doing stuffthat maybe 30 years ago would
have been something accepted.
But hey, I'm a male and I'mstubborn and I'm sticking to it
and I'll just keep doing it,even though Diane, my charming
and lovely wife, may not say so.
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But hey, that's the way it is.
I've got to tell you, up at thecamp where I'm doing all the
work, they got a total fire banon and that's making it a little
bit tough in that we're doing alot of brushwork, a lot of
cleanup, a lot of stuff that uh,fallen trees that have been
down for the longest time andyou try and burn a lot of that
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stuff.
But with a total fire ban on upat the cottage you can't burn
anything at any time becausewhen that fire ban comes off,
I'll bet you I have at leastthree fires going just to get
caught up in all the scrub andthe brush and everything else.
And of course with the logcabin we want to make sure
everything's safe.
But, like the log home builderswill tell you, round logs just
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don't burn.
But anyways, yeah, so it's alittle bit tough with the fire,
total fire ban, but I understand.
I mean they've had a number offires that took quite a bit to
get control of.
Up near what was there Kinmountone and Bob Cage in another and
I was just talking to a fireguy out of Kin kin mount and he
(04:44):
was telling me up Barry's Baywaythat there's a good size fire
that they're having difficultygetting control of there.
So I imagine that they'll.
They will keep the fire ban onfor a while until we get a bit
more rain, but they're callingfor a big downpour tomorrow
which may mess up my daytomorrow.
But that's the way it is.
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That's the way it goes and weneed the rain in order to get
that fire ban taken care of.
And for those that don't know,it's the fire chiefs locally
that make the decision onwhether there's a fire ban,
which that's what they're in theposition for, and it's what's
called the when I was Ministerof Natural Resources.
It's the indices that they lookat to determine the likelihood
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of problematic fires.
And what that is is when thewinter comes in and the snow
load comes in.
If it's a good amount of snow,that's one thing.
But because when it melts, alot of times you're hoping it
seeps in the ground.
However, if it's a fast meltand the ground is frozen,
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nothing seeps in.
I can recall back living in thelate 70s in a place called
Crooked Creek and Crooked Creek.
I can recall snow in June inthe bush.
Still, the snow load was sohigh at that time.
What the heck.
I can recall snow in June inthe bush, still that the snow
load was so high at that time.
What the heck.
I can recall those times andthose days that if you walked
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out and stood on the snowbankyou could grab the hydro wires.
That's how high the snowbankwas and it was really kind of
neat that they had thesespecialty plows that plowed it
was about six, eight feet up topush the snow bank back farther
so that they could get the nextload of snow up on top of that.
That's how bad the snow was.
But that's what happens and youget it in June and what that
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means is a slow melt like thatgets a lot of moisture in the
ground and nice and deep intothe ground so that you don't get
these likelihood of as much asrain or forest fire problems
because the ground andeverything is so dry.
But we had it was a pretty goodwinter snow-wise, snow
load-wise.
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I don't know how it came out inthe spring, but we had a pretty
dry period.
So the indices or thelikelihood of fire is probably
pretty high in the area until weget a lot of rain and it soaks
into the ground and it removesthat so it can work out.
But doing a lot of stuff, I knowI had, I had the boys uh, josh
and garrett out and and bert andwe we had to replace a beam.
(07:17):
So, um, plus some support forit, because some wood got rot,
got into the one post and wentall the way up the post and
right where the post connectedto the 8x8 was a white pine or
red pine, I can't remember beamthat got in there and that
started to rot.
So I had to replace a 22-footsection of 8x8 beam.
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Now sounds really easy, butyou've got to build pony walls.
Now sounds really easy, but yougot to build pony walls and a
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pony wall is kind of like a twoby four structure of 16 inch
centers all the way across,eight feet long to hold up to
support what the beam issupporting, because you just
can't lift it up.
So then we had to jack it up,used a three-ton jack with some
special support there to push itup, put the pony wall in, let
it down and then be able toremove the beam and then take
out the support post that wasrotten, put the whole thing in.
It was quite an ordeal but wewere well prepared.
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We had lots of ladders, we hadlots of hydro there, lots of
generators to back up, becauseyou got to remember we're off
grid there, so we're running allthe power equipment by
generators.
So we had to make sure that theskill saws and the drills and
everything else were workingproperly and the saws, alls and
et cetera, et cetera.
So we had the generators goingbut with the hard work of Bert
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and Garrett and Josh and all ofus, we were able to get that
done.
And now I'm moving on to otherstuff.
Like I mentioned, it was just alittle bit sore, but we're
building new.
The water is really low in thelake.
I haven't seen it this low inprobably well, let me see over
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25 years.
I would say Never seen it solow, and what that means is that
all the shore is receded back.
So it's quite a ways out.
And now what we're doing isbuilding platforms and cribbing
as it used to be, and what I'mdoing is repairing the cribs
that were there.
You know, we we downsized it abit.
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Instead of a six by what, about24 feet of cribbing.
We're going to about 20 feet ofcribbing and downsized it a bit
, still using quite a bit of thethe original stuff that's there
, but just cut it down andputting it out there.
And I gotta tell, to tell you,for cribbing, some of the best
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wood that we're using isactually hemlock.
So I went to a local mill downin Bancroft and they'll they
mill up a rough cut hemlock.
So I've got four by fours.
The cribbing before was threeby threes and it worked pretty
good.
And all the stuff that was inthe water after 20-25 years so
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about 22-23 years I think iswhen we put that in, maybe close
to 25, and we put the dock inand that was still great.
So I still reused a lot of thehemlock that was there before
and just added some new stufffor the new size that we cut it
down to, and so we got all thatdone.
And then using and just addedsome new stuff for the new size
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that we cut it down to, and sowe got all that done, and then
using four by four stringers toput the planks on, and then
we'll be building a floatingdock as opposed to taking out
another crib and reduce thatfootprint out in the water and
take the old crib out and thenjust put a floating dock there.
So it's better for theenvironment.
Although we're allowed to, Idon't know if it's changed that
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much, but it used to be up to100 square foot of cribbing
without requiring permits andstuff like that, but we were way
, way, way below that and nowwe're even below that.
Yeah, so I'll be using 16 foot4x4 hemlock on top of the
cribbing that's there andconnecting it to a base that
I've built just offshore withthe cement cornerstones, kind of
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things that you can put 4x4 or6x6s in there, and then we cut
that to the height of cedar thatI want in there to make it all
level.
The only thing is I'll have toput out some steps to get down
from the top level down, and wekept it off the ground to make
sure it doesn't start to rot,because the old stringers were
directly on the ground and afterwell, it lasted, you know,
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pretty close to 25 years.
So it was pretty good that thecedar or the hemlock that was on
the shore lasted that long.
But it's on the shore anddirectly on the ground.
It started to rot right there.
So we took that off and put itup on concrete to get it off the
ground on shore, and plus, weused all the rocks that were in
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there and just filled with greenbullfrogs, which was nice to
see no leopard frogs, just thebullfrogs and there was a lot of
dragonfly larvae swimming inthe water.
So we want to make sure thatthey stay around because they
get rid of those mosquitoes enmasse, which is good, so yeah,
so we built up the pony wall, wereplaced the 8x8 beam there,
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and now we're working on thecribbing and then I've got some
metal roof to do so.
When we had the ice storm, wehad a tree come down off the
neighbor's property.
When we had the ice storm, wehad a tree come down off the
neighbor's property, clipped theedge of ours, and now I had to
get a 16-foot section of metalroof to replace the one that
went through our roof up at thetop.
But I've got to get someexpertise in to do that.
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So I've got somebody who's anexpert in metal roofing
Stoughton and I'll get Terrydown to help us out and they'll
take care of the metal roofingStoughton.
And I'll get Terry down to helpus out and they'll take care of
the metal roof problems.
But while they're up there,they're going to cut some vent
holes for us and I got the woodstove coming in as well, so that
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remember, we're off grid, sowe're running whatever we have.
We've got some solar there, aswell as generators, backups and
things like that Run a lot ofthe stuff.
And then for heat we had beenusing propane heaters and I had
a number of those salamandertypes and area space ones, and
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this is a lot of ventilation, soit's not a problem.
Of course I've got carbonmonoxide detectors all over the
place to make sure there's noissues there.
But we'll replace that with awood-burning stove.
And guess what?
With all the wood that we'vetaken down up there, we'll have
lots of wood and that's what'sadded to my wearing of the wrist
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guards.
So I've got the metal roofprepared.
I'm going to get some ventingholes because I've got to get
the septic vent hole to vent upthrough the metal roof and it's
pretty hard to find somebodywith some expertise to do that
because the plumbing guys theydidn't want to have anything to
do with it.
You know they said, look, wecould try.
But we're not experts and ifit's leaked it's not our fault.
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You know advance warning.
But I've got somebody now thatshould be able to take care of
that.
Otherwise you get I think Terrysaid it was methane gas coming
in and you can smell the methanegas just the way it cycles
through.
But that'll all be taken careof and should be done in the
next couple of weeks.
So we're getting lots of workdone up there.
But I got to tell you, normallyI start off the program talking
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about my chocolate lab Ensign,gunner, and Gunner, he's been
good.
But when he swims in the lakehe gets a hot spot.
And these hot spots drive me alittle bit crazy in that it's
kind of like oh, how's itdescribe it Kind of an open sore
that oozes some kind of an oilysubstance, and it's pretty easy
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to spot.
But it's every time and ithappened with Strider, our
previous lab the same thing whenhe was out swimming in this
water.
For some reason these hot spotswould come up, and then we have
to get him on antibiotics.
And of course I'm going to getinto the vet stuff a little bit,
because I'm a little bit tickedoff with what's happening with
vets in the province of Ontario,because, anyways, but yeah, so
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I'm taking care of that.
And the other thing is, I'm notsure if I mentioned this or not,
but Gunner, he's got this habit.
So if I'm in the washroom, thebathroom, and I'm at the sink,
he'll walk in between me and thesink and he'll look up at me
and that means he wants histeeth brushed.
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How many of you out there knowdogs that want their teeth
brushed?
He comes in.
All right, all right, I'm in arush but we'll hurry up.
So I'll brush his teeth for himand he's happy.
You can tell he gets that biglab smile and just loves it.
But I use a bit of a specialtythree-sided toothbrush.
(16:01):
That I use and when you getsome of the it's hard to find
now but previously it workedpretty good and mostly most
people don't know this.
But you get a lot of bad breathin dogs.
That's because most of the timeit it's bacteria and you'll get
a lot of rotten teeth that'llgive them that bad breath.
Gunner, gunner's what?
Six or six, now six and a halfand no bad breath at all because
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, guess what, I'm brushing histeeth all the time.
So that's good and I'm sure itmakes him feel good as well.
But I wanted to mention I'm abit ticked off with what's
happening with the veterinaryclinics in the province of
Ontario and I see it'sCanada-wide as well.
So I'd been going to a vetclinic and the one I had been
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going to, the vets retired andthey were spectacular.
I used to drive over an hour toget up to it just simply
because I got to tell you andthere's good vets around just to
tell you, and there's a lot ofthem, but you got to find the
right ones that you can, youknow, mesh with and everything
goes smoothly.
And we had the Dr Schroeder'sin Fenlon Falls where it was
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spectacular Love going up there.
But when they retired I startedlooking around to find some
good vets and I found one.
So we'd been going there andguess what?
Strider was going there andBenny, josh's dog.
Well, I guess he was takingcare of Benny a lot, but Benny
goes with us to the vet where wewere going.
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And I showed up and I said look,I need some more flea and tick
medication for Gunnar and Benny.
And they said oh well, benny'sokay because he's been in, but
we haven't seen Gunnar in a year, so you have to bring him in
before we can give you any fleaand tick medication.
I said what, what's that allabout?
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I said it was always before.
You know, the dog was sick.
They took him into the vet, thevet took care of it and you
know, the next time you saw himwas when he needed something
taken care of or he needed shotsor whatever.
Was when he needed somethingtaken care of or he needed shots
or whatever.
And they said, oh no, no, it'saccording to the veterinary
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college that those are the rulesthat we can't give your dog
anything unless we see your dogevery year.
I said when the hell did thisstart?
And they're like what?
Oh well, I said where does itsay that?
Well, that's what we were told.
I said where does it say it inlegislation?
Of course you know, having beenthe minister and in politics
for as many years as I have, youknow a lot of this stuff that
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comes out is complete crap.
And that's what that was.
And it ticked me right off, youknow, and I was like, excuse me.
I said, uh, what?
So I said, you know, andwhere's my vet?
I always had, because when I goto a clinic it's like I want
the same vet to see my dog allthe time, so the vet gets to
know it.
You know, the dog knows the vet.
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Not only that, they got a goodrelationship, and when there's a
problem he knows the history.
So I kept seeing different vetsand I'm going like, well,
where's my regular vet?
Anyways, they said that oh,he's no longer here and I
thought what's going on withthat?
And well, we can give you someflea and tick medication this
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time, but we're going to have tosee Gunnar before the next time
.
We need some more.
I'm like what, anyway?
So I go there pick up the fleaand tick medication.
And I asked you know?
I said you know what happenedwith my regular vet and they
said, oh well, try such and such.
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So next time something comes up, I find out, track him down.
He's now at a differentlocation.
I have a conversation with himand I said like hey, what's
going on?
What happened?
Like, how come you left theclinic?
I mean, you started that clinicand you're not there anymore?
He said well, most people don'tknow this.
(20:01):
His words were, I think he said60 percent of all veterinary
clinics have been bought up bymajor corporations in.
Uh, and, and I gotta tell you,marketplace did a a special on
it because on, and it came outjanuary 24th and you can talk
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about it because it talks aboutcorporate vets and how, and it
says there that a lot ofinternational companies are
buying up all these vet clinics.
Well, and I couldn't figure outwhy.
Well, what dog food do you feedyour dog?
What?
Since when have you ever askedthat question?
I've had dogs for my entirelife.
I've never had anybody you knowkind of question with dog food
(20:46):
and all that kind of stuff.
Like where did this all comefrom?
Well, my vet told me.
He said look, a corporationcame to us, they bought up the
clinic.
They made us an offer wecouldn't refuse and we had.
He was under the impression thatit would be the status quo and
continue on, but anyways,anyways, it certainly didn't.
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So he left and got frustratedand he was the one that informed
me that, like I said, and Ithink the uh marketplace show I
mentioned 40 odd percent of allclinics in the province of
ontario are now corporatelyowned.
And so now they're goingthrough all this crap where you
have to come in every year andyou have to do this and that and
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everything else and that, uh,in order to be able to use their
services, which was never theway it was.
So when I'm shopping around,the first question I ask when I
go into a veterinary clinic noware you corporately owned?
And it's kind of hard to findthem, but certainly it's not all
profit based, as this is on somany other different way
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companies operate, and that'swhat this whole thing is all
about these companies, and I gotto tell you the price to clip
my dog's nails when he was in.
So I take him in and said, ohwell, he's in, you can clip his
nails, sure it'd be this price.
That price has doubled sincethey went corporate and
everything else has justskyrocketed in prices and it's
driving me crazy and a lot ofother people.
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I mean, we got a friend aroundthe corner that has kind of a
Burmese mountain Burmese StBernard cross and it's the only
dog that doesn't get along withGunner and actually it bit
Gunner and we got infected andit cost me quite a bit of money
(22:35):
to get that taken care of.
But these people have had enoughof all this crap that's going
on.
And my understanding now.
I didn't speak to them directlybecause when they're there with
their dog I don't take my dogout, so we don't really see each
other a lot.
But the others were telling methat they were getting a lot of
their medication out ofAustralia.
So what they do is this kind ofit's kind of like a tele-vet
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sort of thing where they wereusing vets out of Australia and
getting their medication is,from what I understand, shipped
from there.
I could be wrong, but I'mpretty sure she said Australia
and they would send up themedication from there.
Yeah, it takes a bit of time toget here but price wise, it's
like a third the cost of themedication for the exact same
stuff coming from there, andthey just plan in advance and
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take care of it in that way.
And I think you're going to seemore people doing the same
thing, because the way thesecorporate veterinary clinics are
operating, I'm disgusted inthem that it's solely
profit-based and that's appearsto be.
I just getting wound up aboutit because it ticks me off to no
end that this sort of stuffhappens.
But that's the way things aregoing and I understand.
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I happen and for those thatdon't know, I do enjoy getting
out for a round of golfoccasionally.
Most of the time I play nineholes once a week whenever
possible, and I happened to beout.
Josh took me out for Father'sDay and we got paired up with
another couple and the otherperson one of the couples was a
female who actually was aspectacular golfer that was on a
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golf scholarship.
She had been on a golfscholarship down in the States
and came back and worked as agolf pro and she was telling me
that she works with now all theschools for the golf teams to
play in the competition for thehigh schools throughout southern
Ontario.
And she was saying that I askedabout so which golf courses do
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they use?
Well, they use this one, thatone.
I said, what about this one?
Oh, well, that one golf coursehas been bought up by a
corporation and they don'tprovide any of that kind of
stuff for the students now toget involved in golfing.
And I said what?
And she said, said, yeah, majorcorporations, just like, I'm
sure, the vet things, where it's, whether it's local or
international companies buyingup all these, in this case golf
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courses.
And now it's all about theprofit.
And I and I can see what'shappening with a lot of them,
because that's what's takingplace is it's not the same kind
of great relationship you hadbefore.
Now it's all about dollars andcents which is taken away from a
lot of the places.
So when I'm checking with golfcourses where I play, I ask if
they're corporate or not.
(25:13):
In the same way, when I'masking around at vets, uh, if
they're a corporate operation ornot, and I stay right away from
them because I don't want toput up with all that mandated
prices that, uh, virtually allthe same at every one of them
whatever you call that, on topof all the stuff that they're
making up like, oh, we have tosee you, mandated to see you
(25:33):
once a year.
So if you're interested, outthere, take a look, because I'm
sure a lot of people don't knowwhat's happening.
They just wondered why, all ofa sudden, these prices are kind
of way out of line.
But so things are happening outthere.
Gunner's doing well, I got hishot spot under control, and not
only that, but I'm sure he'll beback in the water this coming
(25:54):
weekend, so we'll have to keepan eye on it.
But and it's antibiotics and acream that we put on it but, uh,
it's, it's a lot of us, if youdo it with our pet, I mean, how
many people do you know brushyour dog's teeth?
So obviously we're taking careof him to a pretty good plus.
He gets his his runs usually acouple of times a day.
(26:15):
But when we're up at the camp,or the cottage as they call it
in Southern Ontario, he getslots of exercise there and just
loves going out down to thewater and he'll just.
What's he doing out there?
He's just gone for a swim, orelse what's he chasing?
Oh, maybe it's that bear upthere.
But that's a little bit of theupdate of what's happening.
Hopefully we got a big raincoming tomorrow that'll take the
(26:37):
fire ban off so we can get somefires going and clean up a lot
of the brush and all the rottenwood that's around, or is going
and clean up a lot of the brushand all the rotten wood that's
around, or we end up taking tothe dump and they'll burn it
there, but they charge us forthat.
So those are just some of thethings that are happening out
there.
But, as I mentioned before, I'mgoing to try and get John Snell
back on.
He's the tea guy, which I foundfascinating.
(26:59):
We had some recording problemsand as soon as he's get back
from Pakistan we'll try and getthem back on and re-record some
of those sections and talk aboutthe things that I wasn't able
to get back out.
Anyways, it's always a pleasure.
If you've got any questions, askthem.
We'll do a weekend to answerthem.
If you've got any suggestionsfor a show, let us know.
And that's just something alittle bit different, a little
(27:21):
bitch and beef and complainingand updates on what's happening
out there under the canopy, andpretty soon in about, oh,
probably about three weeks we'llstart to get ready to start
doing our Chaga harvest and headup to check to make sure
everything's up to par andwhat's taking place there.
All right, thanks for listening.
Have a great day.
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