March 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Chris Everett from Safari Club International reveals how hunting organizations contribute to critical wildlife research and conservation efforts across North America and worldwide. Safari Club's structure of 13 Canadian chapters ensures that 70% of fundraising remains local, supporting community initiatives from habitat restoration to humanitarian projects.
• SCI is the largest non-profit hunting advocacy organization globally with members in 115 countries
• The organization funds crucial wildlife research including grizzly bear studies in BC and caribou recovery in Newfoundland
• Chris previously served as chief of staff for a Member of Parliament focusing on firearms and hunting policy
• Ontario has one of the world's largest polar bear populations with research partially funded by SCI
• Local chapters host fundraising banquets that combine social events with conservation fundraising
• Youth education initiatives include the Sensory Safari program featuring taxidermied specimens
• SCI advocates at municipal, provincial and federal government levels for science-based wildlife management
• Sustainable hunting practices stimulate rural economies during off-peak tourism seasons
Connect with Safari Club International at safariclub.org or find SCI Canada on Instagram and Facebook to learn more about upcoming events and conservation initiatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The humble goldfish, everyone's favorite aquatic pet.
It's small, easy to care for.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's there not to love?
Even the cat may be mesmerizedby the color and movements of
your aquarium friends.
Goldfish are great at home, butdon't let them loose.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Releasing goldfish or other domestic aquatic pets or
plants into natural environmentsis harmful to both your pet and
the planet.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Goldfish disrupt ecosystems by out-competing
native species for food andresources.
In degraded habitats theycontribute to algae blooms.
They kill aquatic wildlife andpass viruses and diseases
contracted in aquariums to wildfish.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
They could even live up to 40 years and grow as big
as a football.
Anglers, this is where you comein.
If you find a goldfish at yourlocal fishing spot, report it to
the Invading Species Hotline orgo online to eddmapscom.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Remember to never dump your live bait into the
water and risk spreading otheraquatic invaders.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Keep our lakes free from invaders and don't let them
loose.
As the world gets louder andlouder, the lessons of our
natural world become harder andharder to hear, but they are
still available to those whoknow where to listen.
I'm Jerry Ouellette and I washonoured to serve as Ontario's
Minister of Natural Resources.
However, my journey into thewoods didn't come from politics.
(01:37):
Rather, it came from my time inthe bush and a mushroom.
In 2015, I was introduced tothe birch-hungry fungus known as
chaga, a tree conch withcenturies of medicinal
applications used by Indigenouspeoples all over the globe.
After nearly a decade ofharvest, use, testimonials and
(02:00):
research, my skepticism hasfaded to obsession and I now
spend my life dedicated toimproving the lives of others
through natural means.
But that's not what the show isabout.
My pursuit of the strangemushroom and my passion for the
outdoors has brought me to theplaces and around the people
that are shaped by our naturalworld.
(02:21):
On Outdoor Journal Radio'sUnder the Canopy podcast, I'm
going to take you along with meto see the places, meet the
people that will help you findyour outdoor passion and help
you live a life close to natureand under the canopy.
So join me today for anothergreat episode and hopefully we
(02:41):
can inspire a few more people tolive their lives under the
canopy.
Okay, as always, I want to thankmy listeners around the world.
We thank those from Canada.
We really appreciate youlistening to the podcast and, as
always, without you listenerswe wouldn't be having a podcast.
And again, thanks for thoselisteners in the States and
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Switzerland and Ghana andTrinidad and Tobago and all
around the world.
We really appreciate that andif anybody has any questions or
comments or wants to hear anyspecific shows, let us know and
what we'll do is we will getsome information out there and
try to put it together.
It can't be done sometimes rightaway, but we take a little bit
of time to get a podcast of whatyou'd like to hear about,
because that's what we're allabout providing our listenership
with what they want to hearabout.
(03:23):
Now, today we've got a specialguest, but as usual, it was
raining here where we are.
I had my chocolate lab out andhe gives me the look that are we
going?
Are we going for his run?
And it's just kind of like no,not today.
And we're recording actually atthe Toronto Sportsman Show, for
(03:45):
because there's a lot of greatguests here, and we have a great
guest here today in ChrisEverett.
Welcome to the podcast, chris.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
No problem.
So tell us a bit about yourself.
Who are you with and what doyou do with them?
What's your official title?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
So I'm Chris Everett.
I'm the official chapter andadvocacy specialist in Canada
for Safari Club InternationalRight, so my job is to help
support the chapters and themembership across Canada, as
well as do all of the governmentadvocacy on the provincial,
municipal and federal level forSCI.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So where did you, what's your background and what
were you involved with beforeyou got involved with Safari
Club International SCI?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So before I switched over to work for SCI last summer
, I was actually the chief ofstaff for a member of parliament
on Parliament Hill, okay, whereI, for 10 years, I worked in
firearms policy, hunting policyand fisheries policy across
Canada, okay.
So I worked with some amazingstakeholders around the country
and I saw that there was a realneed to have some more national
(04:44):
voice and some more advocatesinvolved in the fighting for our
way of life and protecting ourway of life.
And Safari Club Internationalwas an organization I had worked
closely with in my time onParliament Hill and I really saw
an opportunity to work withthem and I really supported the
work that they were doing aroundthe world really supported the
(05:07):
work that they were doing aroundthe world and so we were able
to get a position for me to beable to do what I'm passionate
about, and I've loved it eversince.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Oh, good, well, do you know what C-68 is?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes, I have heard about it and I've read through
it a number of times.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So I'm the guy that led the charge Canada-wide
against C-68 when it first cameout and, in September of 1994,
held a huge rally on ParliamentHill where, according to the
RCMP, we had over 27,000 inattendance on a Thursday.
And I made every singledecision from who the speakers
were, the parade route, wherethe washrooms went, you name it.
(05:39):
I organized the whole thing.
As a matter of fact, it wasfunny.
We had a guy by the name ofRowley, Now Rowley's.
A matter of fact, it was funny.
We had a guy by the name ofRoley Now Roley's, a friend of
mine, and Roley was in charge ofthe washrooms, the outhouses,
the port-a-potties, and so we atthe Labretton Flats is where
the buses were landing, and sothose were easy.
But then, when it came toParliament Hill, he says, Jerry,
I don't know what to do.
(06:00):
He says the RCMP won't let meput the outhouses on the Hill
property and the Ottawa policewon't let me put it on the
street.
So he says I don't know whereto put them.
And I said this is what you do,Roe.
I said you decide where youwant them to put them, I don't
care, Just have them there,because we're going to have like
27,000 people who are going toneed to go to the washroom.
(06:21):
So so anyway.
So I said, and this is what youdo If you decide to put them on
the Hill, you put them on theHill.
And when the RCMP come and sayto you, what the hell are they
doing here, you tell them thethe Ottawa police department
told you to put them there, talkto them, and by the time they
figured out, the rally would beover and everything was done and
it worked out just fine.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'm glad that worked out.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But yeah, so it was interesting because and I chose,
the master of ceremonies at theevent was Linda Tom, and I
don't know if you know Linda,but she was bilingual female.
She was a cooking show host on alocal TV show on a cable
network in Ottawa and she was anOlympic gold medalist in
(07:05):
handgun shooting.
That's amazing, yeah, and pluswe had Dr Ruth, judith Ross and
a whole bunch of otherindividuals at the event to
bring different perspectivesforward and what that was
designed to do.
And I did the whole thingmyself and I can remember
getting home at 1 o'clock in themorning and picking up the
phone and starting to phonepeople and my wife Diane says
(07:26):
says what are you doing?
It's one o'clock in the morning.
I said no, no, it's, it's threehours difference in vancouver
I'm calling those people invancouver because we were
already and we had parallelprotests in all the federal uh
members offices, the uh who weresupporting the legislation at
the same time and we had people,people fly out from BC and
Alberta, anyways.
So it was a big passion of mine.
(07:46):
But yeah, we get involved inthose things that we like and we
try to make a difference, whichis what you're doing, which is
good.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yes, yes, hunting has always been a passion of mine.
I grew up in a hunting familyand you know seeing the impacts
of the long gun registry wayback in the 90s that it had on
my family and just the fear thatit instilled in some firearms
owners just never sat well withme as a kid, let alone when I
got involved in parliament andgot involved in the federal
(08:15):
politics side of things.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So what does SCI do?
Or what is Safari ClubInternational all about?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Safari Club International can sometimes get
an interesting rap because, youknow, our original logo was the
lion and the shield, and soeveryone thinks that we're just
about hunting in africa, but weare not.
We are much, much more right.
We're the largest non-profithunting advocacy organization in
the world.
We have 115 countries that wehave members in right we have
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over 100,000 members between usand our affiliate organizations
that are part of a largerumbrella organization called
Sporting ConservationInternational.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So what would be some of the affiliates then that are
with you?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
So there's the Safari Club International Foundation,
which is I dub it our sciencewing.
There's a lot of humanitarianaid and a lot of scientific
study and research that's donethrough the foundation
investments.
For instance, the foundation isactually working with the
Taltan in BC to study grizzlybear predations on caribou
populations.
The end goal there is to allowpeople to be able to hunt
(09:18):
grizzlies in BC again, becausethe numbers in the population
seem to be far exceeding whatthe land can kind of sustain.
So we're looking at gettingthat scientific data.
We've invested $500,000 in thecaribou recovery strategy in
Newfoundland over the years aswell.
So that's one of our partner orour sister organizations.
We also have Syngetica in Spainand we have a number of
(09:42):
organizations in Africa andwe're in negotiations to join
forces with some otherorganizations as well throughout
the world.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I was a member of SCI back in the 80s when I
worked in the industry and oneof the things that I was able to
do was I worked with SFRI ClubInternational in providing funds
for elk research in theprovince of Ontario.
So just south of Sudbury therewas a burr washer that had been
self-sustaining.
I knew the population was onlyaround 70 animals and I was able
(10:13):
to because I was on the boardto donate some funds to Dr Joe
Hammer up in that area tocontinue on the research for elk
in the province of Ontario.
Not only that, when I wasMinister of Natural Resources I
recall a research study that wasdone by, funded by Safari Club
International, again for caribouin the far north in northern
Ontario, because we have aHudson's James Bay kind of it's
(10:35):
kind of a barren ground woodlandcross that SEI covered paid for
the funding for that research.
So they do do a lot ofcontributions in a lot of
different areas, which is veryimportant that most people don't
even realize about.
No, so in these studies there'ssomething that, like the
ministries that I was in chargeof, natural Resources for
Ontario, are very important formaking the management decisions
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in future generations.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
For sure, and we have across Canada specifically,
which is the area that I focusmore on, for Safari Club.
We have 13 chapters right nowthat are actively hosting
fundraisers and doing their ownon-the-ground initiatives too.
So sometimes you might not evenhear about the initiatives.
They might not be a biggerproject like the elk and the
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caribou studies and such likethat, but they're doing
on-the-ground initiatives intheir local areas, whether it's
a habitat restoration program.
But they're doing on-the-groundinitiatives in their local
areas, whether it's a habitatrestoration program.
If they're doing humanitarian.
You know, I know our NovaScotia chapter took some
leftover bear meat from somehunts and made some bear
enchiladas and donated them tosome homeless shelters and to
some people who were in need ofsome sustenance and stuff.
(11:40):
So the chapters are reallywhere a lot of the grassroots
work actually happens and youknow any chapter that's doing
the work out there is superbeneficial for the community.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Now there was a doctor I know when I was
minister, one of the things thatI did was I brought SCI in
because they're greatcontributors and they need to be
recognized for their work,because they want to work with a
lot of ministries in doingresearch and benefits to a lot
of communities.
And I had what's his name, DrHarto Ives, I think.
His last name was out ofSudbury and he was on the ELK
committee when we reintroducedELK into the province of Ontario
(12:12):
and he was one of the leadindividuals as part of one of
the things that I was able to besuccessful with for Ontario.
So those are some of the things, but you mentioned 13 chapters.
Where are both of thesechapters located?
Across Canada?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
So they're right from coast to coast.
So we have Nova Scotia, Udawayin Quebec.
We have four chapters here inOntario.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Where are they in Ontario?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
In Ontario.
We have Algonquin, ottawaValley, the Ontario chapter,
which is our oldest chapter andit's based in Toronto.
We have our SouthwesternOntario chapter.
We have the Manitoba chapter,which is based in and around
Winnipeg.
We have Saskatchewan rivers inthe province of Saskatchewan.
Then we have Northern Alberta,drayton Valley, calgary and
(12:53):
Badlands, all in the province ofAlberta.
So they're right from north ofEdmonton all the way down to
closer to the border and we havethe West Coast BC chapter as
well.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So how does SCI get its funds to be able to donate
to events and for the researchthat you do?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The funds are generated through the chapters
hosting banquets, as well as ourlarge convention, which is one
of the largest hunting outdoorshows in the world, which
happens in Nashville every year.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Nashville.
In Nashville, yeah, next yearit's going to be in February,
but our show down there is fourdays.
We host big banquet dinnerswith large hunts that are
donated for hunters to be ableto auction off, and all of our
funds raised from that gostraight back into the advocacy
efforts around the world and theconservation measures around
(13:39):
the world as well.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So one of the things when I was minister I was able
to do and I worked with some ofthe staff in the Ministry of
Natural Resources and we wereable to Ontario has polar bear
research study that was going onwith Dr Marty Obarts, I think
was the doctor who was doing theresearch on polar bears,
because most people don't knowthat Ontario has one of the
(14:00):
largest polar bear populations.
And what we did was or what Idid when I was minister I was
able to get two spots for SCISafari Club International to
attend and participate in thepolar bear research.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And we, so one, went to the Ontario chapter and but
what I did was I did somethingspecial and it was really tricky
because most of the time whenyou buy something you don't get
a tax receipt for the purchase.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
However, I worked it out so that and the bureaucracy
did a great job on it and youknow that's what there's a lot
of great individuals in thebureaucracies around that do a
lot of really good work and whatwe were able to do was the
money was actually donated toone of the universities, who
then gave a tax receipt to beable to go and participate in
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the research, gave a tax receiptto be able to go and
participate in the research.
So, and I think they generatedthey doubled the amount of
income generated to do polarbear research in the province of
Ontario by having those twoseats off that's amazing now,
one went to the Ontario chapterand then one went to the, to the
big uh event uh, where yourconference is, your convention
and the other one was sold thereand I think I don't remember.
(15:11):
I know the one, ontario, wentfor 12 15 000, but the one down
in the states went for like 30000 us.
Yeah, and they actuallyparticipate hands-on with with
uh the.
What they do is they, they um.
It's really interesting, though, because they use a helicopter
to do this research and thepeople are in the helicopter
with them.
When they did it now and they,they dart uh and they
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tranquilize polar bears, andwhat they'll do is they.
They bring in these specialscales and weigh them, and then
they take a tooth sample and ablood sample and uh skin sample,
determine fat content and allthose things, and the people
there that participate in it.
It's just unbelievable.
They've never been involved insomething like that and I
remember the person bought ittwo years in a row because it
was so great that they couldn'tbelieve that the difference that
(15:58):
it was making one in polar bearresearch but the ability to be
there and see all these and tosee the number of polar bears
ontario has, because we have oneof the world's largest
populations of polar bears inthe world and people don't
realize that.
So it was just a way of SafariClub International generating
more revenue to help out withmore research.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Well, yeah, and that's where our foundation
comes in, with Safari Club, thefoundation itself, like I said
earlier, I kind of call it thescience wing, but that's where a
lot of the funds go for taxablepurposes.
But also they're the ones thatare sending scientists out.
They're the ones that areworking with the people on the
ground, on the science side ofthings, to do that research, to
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get that data, to be able tosupport the true conservation
measures in the area, to makesure that we are helping the
animals succeed and helping theanimals survive, but also
supporting hunting, becausewe've always said it that
hunters are the number oneconservationists.
We're out there on the ground,we're seeing this and working
with these science organizationsto get this information, and
this scientific data is veryimportant.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, and there's a lot of contributions that are
made through hunting as well,whether it's CWD, chronic
wasting disease where hunters inOntario are contributing
animals, parts, deer parts, todetermine if chronic wasting
diseases is in Ontario and inorder to determine that they
need all these sorts of parts ofanimals to be able to do the
(17:21):
research on.
And it's hunters that arecontributing back to that and
that's how we monitor andregulate and I know the ministry
.
There's a sector of societythat is opposed to hunting but
when they learn to start tounderstand that hunting kind of
regulates a lot of thepopulations out there.
And I know I did a podcast withanother group that we talked
about how deer harvest numbersare determined in Ontario and
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what happens is crop damage andcar accidents are the number one
determining factor.
So if there's large andabundance of crop damage to a
lot of the farms or there's moreand more incidents where
there's cars having collisionswith deer, then they increase
the number of tags available toharvest more in order to help
the population or to regulatethe population.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Exactly, and you know I'm a sustenance hunter, so all
that meat that we harvest whenwe go hunting fills our freezer,
my family, I'd say 75 to 80% ofthe meat that we eat is all
hunted and harvested by usourselves and instead of buying
food at the grocery store andI'm not knocking farming or
anything but for us, we, we eatthat, we live that lifestyle and
(18:26):
and the meat itself we findvery healthy and very rich for
our, for our diets and and tasty, super tasty.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
There's a lot of meal options that we have yeah, one
of the things that I found veryinteresting at chris was that um
you know some of the events Idid there was a um, a.
It was a um.
They were chickens that thatwere raised in the fields as
opposed to pens, and the tasteof that chicken was like night
and day compared to thedomesticated one that grows that
(18:57):
you'll get at most of thestores and things like that.
But those ones that had thefree-range chickens they're
called, they had a huge tastedifference to them.
And it's the same with wildgame.
You get that substantiallydifferent taste because of the
natural aspects and there's nohormones and chemicals and all
those sorts of things that areinvolved with that.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
It's 100% organic right.
Purely off the land.
And a couple years ago I wasprivileged enough to hunt with
one of my good friends out inAlberta and I got a whitetail
out there and I got a whitetailback here in Ontario that same
season.
So we did a taste test.
We actually took the two meats,cooked them the same way
because we wanted to see whatthe different tastes between the
two whitetails were.
(19:40):
And you did notice a differencebecause where I hunt is closer
to the Bancroft area, so it'smore the Canadian Shield and all
the rock and all of that sortof stuff that they're eating in
that type of a terrain.
But out in Alberta I'm huntingdeer that mostly are around farm
fields, so they're going to beeating the grains and the oats
and all that stuff.
So it was interesting to seethe taste difference there.
(20:01):
And you know my family we areactive bear hunters as well and
we hunt up in the Halliburtonarea where the bears are almost
overabundant and so we'rehelping with population control
in that area.
But all that meat they're alleating berries and they're
eating all of the stuff in thewoods and the meat is just
absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
The humble goldfish, everyone's favorite aquatic pet.
It's small, easy to care for.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
What's there not to love?
Even the cat may be mesmerizedby the color and movements of
your aquarium friends.
Goldfish are great at home, butdon't let them loose.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Releasing goldfish or other domestic aquatic pets or
plants into natural environmentsis harmful to both your pet and
the planet.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Goldfish disrupt ecosystems by out-competing
native species for food andresources.
In degraded habitats theycontribute to algae blooms.
They kill aquatic wildlife andpass viruses and diseases
contracted in aquariums towildfish.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
They could even live up to 40 years and grow as big
as a football.
Anglers, this is where you comein.
If you find a goldfish at yourlocal fishing spot, report it to
the Invading Species Hotline orgo online to eddmapscom.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Remember to never dump your live bait into the
water and risk spreading otheraquatic invaders.
Keep our lakes free frominvaders and don't let them
loose.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And now it's time for another testimonial for Chaga
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We're here in Lindsay with Tula, who's actually from Finland
and uses Chega.
Tula, you've had some goodexperiences with Chega.
Can you just tell us what thatexperience is?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yes, I got sick with fibro and one weekend my husband
came here alone.
I was home and he brought yourleaflet Right and I read it and
I said next weekend when we goto a market we're going to buy
some.
And so we started putting it inour morning smoothie.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
And among a few other things that I was doing.
Because of that, the chaga hasbeen the steady one Right.
I would not want to livewithout it.
Oh good, without it.
So it's been working for meVery good.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And you had some good luck with blood pressure as
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Speaker 5 (22:40):
Oh right, yeah, Thanks for remembering that.
I had a little bit of highelevated blood pressure and
within two weeks of startingthat every day, every morning,
it went to normal.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And you think the chaga was the reason why.
Well, I didn't do anything elsein that time frame, and so how
much chaga did you have and howdid you have it?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Well, we just put that powder in a smoothie and it
yeah.
And it's about tablespoon yeah,no, it's less than tablespoon
for two of us.
Yeah, so you don't need thatmuch.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Right, but a teaspoon , yeah, yeah, very good.
Well, thanks very much forsharing that.
We really appreciate that andwish you all the best with the
Chaga.
Oh, you're from Finland as well?
Yeah, and Chaga is prettypopular in Finland, is it not?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I think it probably is, because there's some
professors in a universitythat's teaching it and talking
about it.
And of course it's big inRussia, right, because that's
where you know the northernwoods that comes from.
Yeah, and of course Finland haslots of perch trees.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Right yeah, and it's the only mushroom that you can't
forage in Finland.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
You have to forage everything else but not chaga.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Oh, very good.
Well, thanks very much forsharing that.
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Hey, thanks for listening Backto the episode.
So whereabouts are you yourselflocated for our international
audience?
Kind of give them a Toronto,ottawa kind of point.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I'm an hour south of Ottawa, so I'm right on the
border, right on the St Lawrence, just north of New York State.
So I'm an hour south of Ottawaand about a two-minute drive
from the American border, if Iever have to get into Ogdensburg
, new York.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So what is your job then with Safari Club
International?
What do you do, or how do youhelp chapters and what sort of
things like that?
What kind of stuff do you do,chris?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
So I help chapters by giving them some suggestions
for their banquets, whether it's, you know, helping them connect
with some firearm manufacturersto get some donations for their
banquets or just overall.
You know, my background priorto getting into politics was
event planning and specialoccasion planning and stuff, so
I'm able to kind of bring thatforward and help them in
(26:02):
planning their banquets andcoming up with raffle prizes and
live auction items and such,but also just helping their
membership navigate thingsthrough.
You know, whether it's they'rehaving issues, you know, for our
hunters that do hunt abroad, ifthey're having issues getting
their game meat or their hidesand stuff back into Canada, we
can help with that.
(26:22):
But that's about half.
My job is supporting thechapters in their work that way,
navigating the governmentbureaucracies in their area and
helping them advocate for otherhunting abilities in their
provinces and then, on thefederal level as well, working
with the government of the dayand the opposition parties on
(26:43):
bringing this on.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I have somebody who last week was in touch with me
because they have somebody whohas game heads in Czechoslovakia
and they can't get them out ofCzechoslovakia and they've been
there for over 15 years.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Waiting to get back.
So your agency would help thoseindividuals to be able to help
them.
Bring them back.
Now is it just for?
You have to be a member inorder to be this.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You would need to be a member, but we do have
resources and we have what'scalled the Hunter Hotline.
So anyone who's a member getsaccess to contact the Hunter
Hotline and they can helpnavigate and find the right
people to either get in contactwith or the right avenues to
navigate.
Barbara, who is in charge ofthe Hunter Hotline.
She is an absolute dynamitewhen it comes to knowing how to
(27:24):
navigate these things and getthe answers for people that they
need to if they need help.
So getting a membership withSafari Club International gets
you access to these resources.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
So these banquets that you talk about, what is a
typical banquet like?
Just kind of explain it forsomebody who hasn't been.
I mean, I've done the SCI onesRocky Mountain, elk Foundation,
ducks Unlimited, rough GrouseSociety, wild Turkey OFH ones,
we've done them all.
Maybe just kind of give abackground of what somebody
would expect when they walk intoa SCI Safari Club International
(27:53):
banquet.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Oh man, a very boisterous atmosphere, lots of
people happy to be out.
It's a social evening.
We have dinners and fantasticmeals, depending on the area,
but first and foremost there'slots of games and activities and
raffles that you can win,prizes that you can win, and
then there's live auctions.
(28:15):
So we'll have live auctionitems that might be a hunt in a
foreign land, or it might be afirearm, or it might be a local
fishing trip, and each chapterkind of looks at who comes to
their banquets and who comes totheir events and decides for
themselves what is going to bebetter items to offer up for the
raffle prizes.
A lot of times we have, you know, kuyu uh clothing, which is a
(28:36):
clothing like a hunting clothing.
We we're working with scree aswell, um, so we'll have some
camo gear, we'll have somebackpacks, we'll have some
hunting uh, hunting items thatyou might need in the field, and
you can enter into raffles orparticipate in games.
And some chapters do what'scalled reverse bingo, where you
buy a bingo card and you do thedraw and at the end you get to
(28:58):
win a gun that's on the wall.
There's a number of things.
I was at one chapter that had acanoe that had been donated and
they put a bunch of bottles ofliquor and some beer in it and
they raffled that off.
So each event is tailored totheir audience and so, depending
on where you are, they'repretty spectacular.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, there was one they used to hold when I was a
member.
It was the only chapter aroundat the time Ontario chapter, I
believe it was and they used tohold a banquet in Colberg and
Lloyd Lipke and Jerome Knapp,bless his soul, and Helena used
to run that and they used tohave a.
It was always beaver tail soupwas the opening meal and then
(29:38):
they would take they wouldadvance it from there on some of
the different meals that verywild game oriented and they
would bring in char and thingslike that which you don't
normally get in a lot of places.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
So it was very nice to see.
Yeah, char is a rare fish, youdon't find it down here too
often.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, so, and now they have a banquet once a year,
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, each chapter.
Sometimes they'll do multiplebanquets or multiple events.
So I know one chapter inAlberta they do what's called
the guns and gear event.
So it's not a full banquet butit's more tailored to just the
hunting gear and guns that youmight be looking for.
So each you know some of themwill host multiple banquets or
(30:20):
multiple events, but a lot oftimes they'll do education
events too.
They might do a kid's day atthe gun range where they teach
kids gun safety and such.
So you know Nova Scotia, theydo an ice fishing derby for a
day.
So not all the events with theSafari club chapter is going to
look the same, but every yearthey will all host a banquet or
a major fundraiser with a dinner, and then they'll do additional
(30:43):
events throughout the year aswell and then they take those
funds to distribute back to thefoundation or to areas that they
decide.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
and I remember terry wheelan he's now a writer with.
With one of the major ones weheld up, we had a large
fundraiser and we actually sentbinoculars I think they were
Zeiss or Swarovski binoculars tothe rangers in Kenya to help
prevent poaching in a lot of thejurisdictions in Africa, and it
(31:10):
was buying them with the fundsraised at that fundraiser.
So those are some of the thingsthat people would get involved
in.
That's what they do with theirfunds.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
The funds with the banquets themselves.
Actually only 30% comes back toheadquarters to help with the
administrative costs, to help mewith getting out and starting
more chapters or doing more ofthe government advocacy.
But 70% of the fundraiser theone fundraiser a year that they
would do, or their biggest onestays local with the chapter for
them to decide what to do withit.
(31:40):
So that money stays local to thearea that they are servicing.
So whether it's the kids'education programs or they do
humanitarian aid, that sort ofstuff, the chapter decides that
70% they put into what theywould like to put it into.
So, it stays local to thoseareas.
If they host additional eventsin the year, they keep a hundred
percent of the proceeds fromthat to again, you know, invest
(32:03):
in to promote other activitiesand such like that.
So only 30% of their largestevent will actually come to
headquarters which is verydifferent from a lot of other
organizations.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Very good, and so are there events coming up.
How often do they like?
Is it in the springtime, mostof them in the fall.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Most of them are in the spring, but we do have some
that scatter throughout the fall.
So my best suggestion is tocome to the Safari Club website
and to take a look at where allthe events are, or to check out
the Safari Club Canada socialmedia pages.
So we have a Facebook page andan Instagram page and we'll be
putting and sharing out theinformation about the banquets
(32:41):
upcoming banquets across Canadaon those pages.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, very good.
So, chris, how can people findout more information or get
details about Safari Club CanadaInternational, what you do and
where these pages?
Where is this actually located?
What your?
What's your uh page number,your address, yeah so instagram
and facebook, both.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
If you look up sci canada, you're going to find us
um.
Additionally, if you gosafaricluborg, that's the
website for the entireorganization and there's a
navigation you can go to the topthat.
You can look at sai.
It's under the internationaltab.
You can go to sci canada.
You can look at SAI.
It's under the internationaltab.
You can go to SAI Canada.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Specifically for my contact information, Right and
so, and there's a lot of youthinvolved.
What I'm seeing here at theToronto Sportsman Show is that
you've got a lot of otherindividuals because, quite
frankly, when we were therebefore, it was a lot of the how
shall I say the more experiencedindividuals, yes, but now I'm
seeing a lot of youth cominginvolved and getting actively
involved, which is good.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Well, at the Toronto Sportsman Show we actually
brought one of the sensorysafari trailers that one of our
chapters manages.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Okay what's that?
So the?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
sensory safari has a number of taxidermied animals.
So we have some African animalsthat are taxidermied in there.
We have some North Americananimals, we have a giant moose,
a bear, some deer, and then wehave some furs that hang on the
wall too, some trapped fur, andeven some wood ducks and
mallards that are in there.
(34:03):
So kids and adults can wanderthrough, take a look at the
animals, take pictures with them.
They can touch the fur, theycan see what these animals look
and feel like up close and it'sjust a great opportunity for
them to see them and to learnabout these animals from around,
feel like up close, and it'sjust a great opportunity for
them to see them and to learnabout these animals from around
the world as well.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Very good Now, chris.
One of the other things youmentioned was that you get
involved in federal andprovincial actions with the
governments for legislationreasons.
Can you kind of give us a bitof a background?
Do you get right down tomunicipalities and things like
that as well?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, by all means, whenever a chapter flags
something to me and they'relocal, it's a little hard for me
as one person to keep an eye onevery municipality across the
country.
But if a chapter flags to methat there's a municipal gun ban
coming up on an agenda, then Ican help them come up with the
resources and if it's closeenough to me, I can run out to
(34:55):
the meeting and attend themeeting and then we can advocate
for our members and for huntersand gun owners alike.
Likewise, provincially, I am intouch with a large number of
the municipal or the provincialministers of natural resource
and working with them.
Todd Lowen in Alberta actuallywe have a very good relationship
with and have been able toreally fight and push for
(35:18):
conservation and huntinginitiatives in that province.
And I met with the Minister ofNatural Resources here in
Ontario.
He was by the trailer yesterdayand we had a great conversation
.
I've worked with him in the pastas well, and so we were really
able to help our chapters helptheir members, and that's
ultimately what it comes down to.
(35:38):
My experience on ParliamentHill is where I come as an asset
and I can help navigate and getmeetings with politicians on
Parliament Hill to be able tofight for the larger things that
are of federal nature.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Very good.
Yeah, I reached out to thestaff within the ministries to
bring the minister here, as wellas the premier.
The premier for Ontario washere at the Sportsman Show
yesterday as well, along with anumber of ministers.
The Minister of Forestry andNatural Resources two separate
ministries in Ontario were bothhere and I worked with a number
of those Adam with NaturalResources and the Minister
(36:11):
Graham as well and Rebecca inForestry and and then directly
with the Premier to try andbring them out to expose them to
stuff like this, which isimportant.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
It's super important to come out and talk to the
people who are on the ground.
That's where you get yourinformation.
You can only have so manypeople flying in helicopters
taking a look and doing aerialsurveillance, but when you have
a large portion of yourpopulation that are getting out
in the woods and hunting andfishing on the landscape,
they're the ones that canactually tell you what they're
(36:40):
seeing and and it's a greatresource to be able to tap into
well, and chris, I recall one ofthe big things was that there
was a a very um.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
They were disconnected from, uh, the
ability to generate revenue whenI was minister of Natural
Resources and the economicimpacts that it had.
And I recall they were lookingat essentially increasing the
number of deer tags in oneparticular wildlife management
unit in Ontario and because itwas a short season, I said look
(37:11):
rather than increase the numberof tags.
Short season I said look ratherthan increase the number of
tags.
What you're going to do islet's look at stimulating the
economy in that area for anextended period, because right
now it's a one-week season.
But if you extend that to atwo-week season and that way
you'll increase your harvestpotential.
But not only that, but theindividuals who are
participating in that are goingto the local restaurants.
(37:32):
You're going to the localrestaurants, they're going to
the gas stations 100%.
They're going to the grocerystores to buy their stuff and
those.
So it helps those economies.
Quite frankly, in times of yearwhere you're up in Halliburton
Way or Wilberforce, where theeconomy turns, when the cottages
are gone and they're lookingfor this sort of thing, so
extending that season actuallygenerated revenue.
(37:52):
Yes, and those are some of thethings that aren't even taken
into consideration.
To municipalities, I mean.
When they brought in the moosechanges, when I was the
opposition critic for naturalresources, what I did was I
reached out to every one of themunicipalities and I said do you
realize?
This is what's going to happenand this is what it's going to
mean to your municipalities?
The end result was as a resultof that, I did my job and the
(38:15):
minister of the day was firedfor that, because they had not
taken that into consideration ofthe impact on the
municipalities yeah so those aresome of the things that people
like yourself and sei get themessage out and let these
individuals know that it hashuge economic benefits 100, and
we're here to be a resource tothe ministers as well.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
If they want to talk to us, they're able to reach out
to us and get our feedback, andthat's ultimately what we want
to do.
You know, there's a lot ofgreat organizations that do the
similar work in a differentfield, and we're all here to be
resources as well.
Bring to the table with SEI andhelp be a louder voice and have
(38:54):
a more collaborative voiceacross the nation to be able to
ultimately fight for our abilityto continue hunting and protect
our way of life.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Very good.
Well, Chris, let our listenersknow again how do they get in
touch with you, when can theyfind out more information or how
do they reach you to get intouch with you if they want to
find out more details aboutSafari Club club international
here in canada?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
yeah, so come to safari cluborg.
Navigate to the internationaltab that says sci canada and
you'll find my direct contactinformation.
There's some more resourcesthere about specifically what we
are doing in canada and at anytime on instagram and facebook
you can go to sci canada as well.
Thanks very much.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I really appreciate you being on our podcast and
chris, this is just another waythat people learning about some
of the things.
You can go to SCI Canada aswell.
Thanks very much.
I really appreciate you beingon our podcast and, chris, this
is just another way that peopleare learning about some of the
things and how things get doneout there and how the research
gets done out there under thecanopy.
Thanks a lot, chris.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
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Now, today we've got a specialguest, but as usual, it was
raining here where we are.
I had my chocolate lab out andhe gives me the look that are we
going?
Are we going for his run?
And it's just kind of like no,not today.
And we're recording actually atthe Toronto Sportsman Show, for
(03:45):
because there's a lot of greatguests here, and we have a great
guest here today in ChrisEverett.
Welcome to the podcast, chris.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
No problem.
So tell us a bit about yourself.
Who are you with and what doyou do with them?
What's your official title?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
So I'm Chris Everett.
I'm the official chapter andadvocacy specialist in Canada
for Safari Club InternationalRight, so my job is to help
support the chapters and themembership across Canada, as
well as do all of the governmentadvocacy on the provincial,
municipal and federal level forSCI.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So where did you, what's your background and what
were you involved with beforeyou got involved with Safari
Club International SCI?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So before I switched over to work for SCI last summer
, I was actually the chief ofstaff for a member of parliament
on Parliament Hill, okay, whereI, for 10 years, I worked in
firearms policy, hunting policyand fisheries policy across
Canada, okay.
So I worked with some amazingstakeholders around the country
and I saw that there was a realneed to have some more national
(04:44):
voice and some more advocatesinvolved in the fighting for our
way of life and protecting ourway of life.
And Safari Club Internationalwas an organization I had worked
closely with in my time onParliament Hill and I really saw
an opportunity to work withthem and I really supported the
work that they were doing aroundthe world really supported the
(05:07):
work that they were doing aroundthe world and so we were able
to get a position for me to beable to do what I'm passionate
about, and I've loved it eversince.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Oh, good, well, do you know what C-68 is?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes, I have heard about it and I've read through
it a number of times.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
So I'm the guy that led the charge Canada-wide
against C-68 when it first cameout and, in September of 1994,
held a huge rally on ParliamentHill where, according to the
RCMP, we had over 27,000 inattendance on a Thursday.
And I made every singledecision from who the speakers
were, the parade route, wherethe washrooms went, you name it.
(05:39):
I organized the whole thing.
As a matter of fact, it wasfunny.
We had a guy by the name ofRowley, Now Rowley's.
A matter of fact, it was funny.
We had a guy by the name ofRoley Now Roley's, a friend of
mine, and Roley was in charge ofthe washrooms, the outhouses,
the port-a-potties, and so we atthe Labretton Flats is where
the buses were landing, and sothose were easy.
But then, when it came toParliament Hill, he says, Jerry,
I don't know what to do.
(06:00):
He says the RCMP won't let meput the outhouses on the Hill
property and the Ottawa policewon't let me put it on the
street.
So he says I don't know whereto put them.
And I said this is what you do,Roe.
I said you decide where youwant them to put them, I don't
care, Just have them there,because we're going to have like
27,000 people who are going toneed to go to the washroom.
(06:21):
So so anyway.
So I said, and this is what youdo If you decide to put them on
the Hill, you put them on theHill.
And when the RCMP come and sayto you, what the hell are they
doing here, you tell them thethe Ottawa police department
told you to put them there, talkto them, and by the time they
figured out, the rally would beover and everything was done and
it worked out just fine.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'm glad that worked out.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
But yeah, so it was interesting because and I chose,
the master of ceremonies at theevent was Linda Tom, and I
don't know if you know Linda,but she was bilingual female.
She was a cooking show host on alocal TV show on a cable
network in Ottawa and she was anOlympic gold medalist in
(07:05):
handgun shooting.
That's amazing, yeah, and pluswe had Dr Ruth, judith Ross and
a whole bunch of otherindividuals at the event to
bring different perspectivesforward and what that was
designed to do.
And I did the whole thingmyself and I can remember
getting home at 1 o'clock in themorning and picking up the
phone and starting to phonepeople and my wife Diane says
(07:26):
says what are you doing?
It's one o'clock in the morning.
I said no, no, it's, it's threehours difference in vancouver
I'm calling those people invancouver because we were
already and we had parallelprotests in all the federal uh
members offices, the uh who weresupporting the legislation at
the same time and we had people,people fly out from BC and
Alberta, anyways.
So it was a big passion of mine.
(07:46):
But yeah, we get involved inthose things that we like and we
try to make a difference, whichis what you're doing, which is
good.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yes, yes, hunting has always been a passion of mine.
I grew up in a hunting familyand you know seeing the impacts
of the long gun registry wayback in the 90s that it had on
my family and just the fear thatit instilled in some firearms
owners just never sat well withme as a kid, let alone when I
got involved in parliament andgot involved in the federal
(08:15):
politics side of things.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So what does SCI do?
Or what is Safari ClubInternational all about?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Safari Club International can sometimes get
an interesting rap because, youknow, our original logo was the
lion and the shield, and soeveryone thinks that we're just
about hunting in africa, but weare not.
We are much, much more right.
We're the largest non-profithunting advocacy organization in
the world.
We have 115 countries that wehave members in right we have
(08:43):
over 100,000 members between usand our affiliate organizations
that are part of a largerumbrella organization called
Sporting ConservationInternational.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So what would be some of the affiliates then that are
with you?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
So there's the Safari Club International Foundation,
which is I dub it our sciencewing.
There's a lot of humanitarianaid and a lot of scientific
study and research that's donethrough the foundation
investments.
For instance, the foundation isactually working with the
Taltan in BC to study grizzlybear predations on caribou
populations.
The end goal there is to allowpeople to be able to hunt
(09:18):
grizzlies in BC again, becausethe numbers in the population
seem to be far exceeding whatthe land can kind of sustain.
So we're looking at gettingthat scientific data.
We've invested $500,000 in thecaribou recovery strategy in
Newfoundland over the years aswell.
So that's one of our partner orour sister organizations.
We also have Syngetica in Spainand we have a number of
(09:42):
organizations in Africa andwe're in negotiations to join
forces with some otherorganizations as well throughout
the world.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I was a member of SCI back in the 80s when I
worked in the industry and oneof the things that I was able to
do was I worked with SFRI ClubInternational in providing funds
for elk research in theprovince of Ontario.
So just south of Sudbury therewas a burr washer that had been
self-sustaining.
I knew the population was onlyaround 70 animals and I was able
(10:13):
to because I was on the boardto donate some funds to Dr Joe
Hammer up in that area tocontinue on the research for elk
in the province of Ontario.
Not only that, when I wasMinister of Natural Resources I
recall a research study that wasdone by, funded by Safari Club
International, again for caribouin the far north in northern
Ontario, because we have aHudson's James Bay kind of it's
(10:35):
kind of a barren ground woodlandcross that SEI covered paid for
the funding for that research.
So they do do a lot ofcontributions in a lot of
different areas, which is veryimportant that most people don't
even realize about.
No, so in these studies there'ssomething that, like the
ministries that I was in chargeof, natural Resources for
Ontario, are very important formaking the management decisions
(10:55):
in future generations.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
For sure, and we have across Canada specifically,
which is the area that I focusmore on, for Safari Club.
We have 13 chapters right nowthat are actively hosting
fundraisers and doing their ownon-the-ground initiatives too.
So sometimes you might not evenhear about the initiatives.
They might not be a biggerproject like the elk and the
(11:17):
caribou studies and such likethat, but they're doing
on-the-ground initiatives intheir local areas, whether it's
a habitat restoration program.
But they're doing on-the-groundinitiatives in their local
areas, whether it's a habitatrestoration program.
If they're doing humanitarian.
You know, I know our NovaScotia chapter took some
leftover bear meat from somehunts and made some bear
enchiladas and donated them tosome homeless shelters and to
some people who were in need ofsome sustenance and stuff.
(11:40):
So the chapters are reallywhere a lot of the grassroots
work actually happens and youknow any chapter that's doing
the work out there is superbeneficial for the community.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Now there was a doctor I know when I was
minister, one of the things thatI did was I brought SCI in
because they're greatcontributors and they need to be
recognized for their work,because they want to work with a
lot of ministries in doingresearch and benefits to a lot
of communities.
And I had what's his name, DrHarto Ives, I think.
His last name was out ofSudbury and he was on the ELK
committee when we reintroducedELK into the province of Ontario
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and he was one of the leadindividuals as part of one of
the things that I was able to besuccessful with for Ontario.
So those are some of the things, but you mentioned 13 chapters.
Where are both of thesechapters located?
Across Canada?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
So they're right from coast to coast.
So we have Nova Scotia, Udawayin Quebec.
We have four chapters here inOntario.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Where are they in Ontario?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
In Ontario.
We have Algonquin, ottawaValley, the Ontario chapter,
which is our oldest chapter andit's based in Toronto.
We have our SouthwesternOntario chapter.
We have the Manitoba chapter,which is based in and around
Winnipeg.
We have Saskatchewan rivers inthe province of Saskatchewan.
Then we have Northern Alberta,drayton Valley, calgary and
(12:53):
Badlands, all in the province ofAlberta.
So they're right from north ofEdmonton all the way down to
closer to the border and we havethe West Coast BC chapter as
well.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So how does SCI get its funds to be able to donate
to events and for the researchthat you do?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The funds are generated through the chapters
hosting banquets, as well as ourlarge convention, which is one
of the largest hunting outdoorshows in the world, which
happens in Nashville every year.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Nashville.
In Nashville, yeah, next yearit's going to be in February,
but our show down there is fourdays.
We host big banquet dinnerswith large hunts that are
donated for hunters to be ableto auction off, and all of our
funds raised from that gostraight back into the advocacy
efforts around the world and theconservation measures around
(13:39):
the world as well.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So one of the things when I was minister I was able
to do and I worked with some ofthe staff in the Ministry of
Natural Resources and we wereable to Ontario has polar bear
research study that was going onwith Dr Marty Obarts, I think
was the doctor who was doing theresearch on polar bears,
because most people don't knowthat Ontario has one of the
(14:00):
largest polar bear populations.
And what we did was or what Idid when I was minister I was
able to get two spots for SCISafari Club International to
attend and participate in thepolar bear research.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And we, so one, went to the Ontario chapter and but
what I did was I did somethingspecial and it was really tricky
because most of the time whenyou buy something you don't get
a tax receipt for the purchase.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
However, I worked it out so that and the bureaucracy
did a great job on it and youknow that's what there's a lot
of great individuals in thebureaucracies around that do a
lot of really good work and whatwe were able to do was the
money was actually donated toone of the universities, who
then gave a tax receipt to beable to go and participate in
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the research, gave a tax receiptto be able to go and
participate in the research.
So, and I think they generatedthey doubled the amount of
income generated to do polarbear research in the province of
Ontario by having those twoseats off that's amazing now,
one went to the Ontario chapterand then one went to the, to the
big uh event uh, where yourconference is, your convention
and the other one was sold thereand I think I don't remember.
(15:11):
I know the one, ontario, wentfor 12 15 000, but the one down
in the states went for like 30000 us.
Yeah, and they actuallyparticipate hands-on with with
uh the.
What they do is they, they um.
It's really interesting, though, because they use a helicopter
to do this research and thepeople are in the helicopter
with them.
When they did it now and they,they dart uh and they
(15:35):
tranquilize polar bears, andwhat they'll do is they.
They bring in these specialscales and weigh them, and then
they take a tooth sample and ablood sample and uh skin sample,
determine fat content and allthose things, and the people
there that participate in it.
It's just unbelievable.
They've never been involved insomething like that and I
remember the person bought ittwo years in a row because it
was so great that they couldn'tbelieve that the difference that
(15:58):
it was making one in polar bearresearch but the ability to be
there and see all these and tosee the number of polar bears
ontario has, because we have oneof the world's largest
populations of polar bears inthe world and people don't
realize that.
So it was just a way of SafariClub International generating
more revenue to help out withmore research.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Well, yeah, and that's where our foundation
comes in, with Safari Club, thefoundation itself, like I said
earlier, I kind of call it thescience wing, but that's where a
lot of the funds go for taxablepurposes.
But also they're the ones thatare sending scientists out.
They're the ones that areworking with the people on the
ground, on the science side ofthings, to do that research, to
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get that data, to be able tosupport the true conservation
measures in the area, to makesure that we are helping the
animals succeed and helping theanimals survive, but also
supporting hunting, becausewe've always said it that
hunters are the number oneconservationists.
We're out there on the ground,we're seeing this and working
with these science organizationsto get this information, and
this scientific data is veryimportant.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, and there's a lot of contributions that are
made through hunting as well,whether it's CWD, chronic
wasting disease where hunters inOntario are contributing
animals, parts, deer parts, todetermine if chronic wasting
diseases is in Ontario and inorder to determine that they
need all these sorts of parts ofanimals to be able to do the
(17:21):
research on.
And it's hunters that arecontributing back to that and
that's how we monitor andregulate and I know the ministry
.
There's a sector of societythat is opposed to hunting but
when they learn to start tounderstand that hunting kind of
regulates a lot of thepopulations out there.
And I know I did a podcast withanother group that we talked
about how deer harvest numbersare determined in Ontario and
(17:45):
what happens is crop damage andcar accidents are the number one
determining factor.
So if there's large andabundance of crop damage to a
lot of the farms or there's moreand more incidents where
there's cars having collisionswith deer, then they increase
the number of tags available toharvest more in order to help
the population or to regulatethe population.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Exactly, and you know I'm a sustenance hunter, so all
that meat that we harvest whenwe go hunting fills our freezer,
my family, I'd say 75 to 80% ofthe meat that we eat is all
hunted and harvested by usourselves and instead of buying
food at the grocery store andI'm not knocking farming or
anything but for us, we, we eatthat, we live that lifestyle and
(18:26):
and the meat itself we findvery healthy and very rich for
our, for our diets and and tasty, super tasty.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
There's a lot of meal options that we have yeah, one
of the things that I found veryinteresting at chris was that um
you know some of the events Idid there was a um, a.
It was a um.
They were chickens that thatwere raised in the fields as
opposed to pens, and the tasteof that chicken was like night
and day compared to thedomesticated one that grows that
(18:57):
you'll get at most of thestores and things like that.
But those ones that had thefree-range chickens they're
called, they had a huge tastedifference to them.
And it's the same with wildgame.
You get that substantiallydifferent taste because of the
natural aspects and there's nohormones and chemicals and all
those sorts of things that areinvolved with that.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
It's 100% organic right.
Purely off the land.
And a couple years ago I wasprivileged enough to hunt with
one of my good friends out inAlberta and I got a whitetail
out there and I got a whitetailback here in Ontario that same
season.
So we did a taste test.
We actually took the two meats,cooked them the same way
because we wanted to see whatthe different tastes between the
two whitetails were.
(19:40):
And you did notice a differencebecause where I hunt is closer
to the Bancroft area, so it'smore the Canadian Shield and all
the rock and all of that sortof stuff that they're eating in
that type of a terrain.
But out in Alberta I'm huntingdeer that mostly are around farm
fields, so they're going to beeating the grains and the oats
and all that stuff.
So it was interesting to seethe taste difference there.
(20:01):
And you know my family we areactive bear hunters as well and
we hunt up in the Halliburtonarea where the bears are almost
overabundant and so we'rehelping with population control
in that area.
But all that meat they're alleating berries and they're
eating all of the stuff in thewoods and the meat is just
absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Right yeah.
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Hey, thanks for listening Backto the episode.
So whereabouts are you yourselflocated for our international
audience?
Kind of give them a Toronto,ottawa kind of point.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I'm an hour south of Ottawa, so I'm right on the
border, right on the St Lawrence, just north of New York State.
So I'm an hour south of Ottawaand about a two-minute drive
from the American border, if Iever have to get into Ogdensburg
, new York.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So what is your job then with Safari Club
International?
What do you do, or how do youhelp chapters and what sort of
things like that?
What kind of stuff do you do,chris?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
So I help chapters by giving them some suggestions
for their banquets, whether it's, you know, helping them connect
with some firearm manufacturersto get some donations for their
banquets or just overall.
You know, my background priorto getting into politics was
event planning and specialoccasion planning and stuff, so
I'm able to kind of bring thatforward and help them in
(26:02):
planning their banquets andcoming up with raffle prizes and
live auction items and such,but also just helping their
membership navigate thingsthrough.
You know, whether it's they'rehaving issues, you know, for our
hunters that do hunt abroad, ifthey're having issues getting
their game meat or their hidesand stuff back into Canada, we
can help with that.
(26:22):
But that's about half.
My job is supporting thechapters in their work that way,
navigating the governmentbureaucracies in their area and
helping them advocate for otherhunting abilities in their
provinces and then, on thefederal level as well, working
with the government of the dayand the opposition parties on
(26:43):
bringing this on.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I have somebody who last week was in touch with me
because they have somebody whohas game heads in Czechoslovakia
and they can't get them out ofCzechoslovakia and they've been
there for over 15 years.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Waiting to get back.
So your agency would help thoseindividuals to be able to help
them.
Bring them back.
Now is it just for?
You have to be a member inorder to be this.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You would need to be a member, but we do have
resources and we have what'scalled the Hunter Hotline.
So anyone who's a member getsaccess to contact the Hunter
Hotline and they can helpnavigate and find the right
people to either get in contactwith or the right avenues to
navigate.
Barbara, who is in charge ofthe Hunter Hotline.
She is an absolute dynamitewhen it comes to knowing how to
(27:24):
navigate these things and getthe answers for people that they
need to if they need help.
So getting a membership withSafari Club International gets
you access to these resources.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
So these banquets that you talk about, what is a
typical banquet like?
Just kind of explain it forsomebody who hasn't been.
I mean, I've done the SCI onesRocky Mountain, elk Foundation,
ducks Unlimited, rough GrouseSociety, wild Turkey OFH ones,
we've done them all.
Maybe just kind of give abackground of what somebody
would expect when they walk intoa SCI Safari Club International
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banquet.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Oh man, a very boisterous atmosphere, lots of
people happy to be out.
It's a social evening.
We have dinners and fantasticmeals, depending on the area,
but first and foremost there'slots of games and activities and
raffles that you can win,prizes that you can win, and
then there's live auctions.
(28:15):
So we'll have live auctionitems that might be a hunt in a
foreign land, or it might be afirearm, or it might be a local
fishing trip, and each chapterkind of looks at who comes to
their banquets and who comes totheir events and decides for
themselves what is going to bebetter items to offer up for the
raffle prizes.
A lot of times we have, you know, kuyu uh clothing, which is a
(28:36):
clothing like a hunting clothing.
We we're working with scree aswell, um, so we'll have some
camo gear, we'll have somebackpacks, we'll have some
hunting uh, hunting items thatyou might need in the field, and
you can enter into raffles orparticipate in games.
And some chapters do what'scalled reverse bingo, where you
buy a bingo card and you do thedraw and at the end you get to
(28:58):
win a gun that's on the wall.
There's a number of things.
I was at one chapter that had acanoe that had been donated and
they put a bunch of bottles ofliquor and some beer in it and
they raffled that off.
So each event is tailored totheir audience and so, depending
on where you are, they'repretty spectacular.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, there was one they used to hold when I was a
member.
It was the only chapter aroundat the time Ontario chapter, I
believe it was and they used tohold a banquet in Colberg and
Lloyd Lipke and Jerome Knapp,bless his soul, and Helena used
to run that and they used tohave a.
It was always beaver tail soupwas the opening meal and then
(29:38):
they would take they wouldadvance it from there on some of
the different meals that verywild game oriented and they
would bring in char and thingslike that which you don't
normally get in a lot of places.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
So it was very nice to see.
Yeah, char is a rare fish, youdon't find it down here too
often.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, so, and now they have a banquet once a year,
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, each chapter.
Sometimes they'll do multiplebanquets or multiple events.
So I know one chapter inAlberta they do what's called
the guns and gear event.
So it's not a full banquet butit's more tailored to just the
hunting gear and guns that youmight be looking for.
So each you know some of themwill host multiple banquets or
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multiple events, but a lot oftimes they'll do education
events too.
They might do a kid's day atthe gun range where they teach
kids gun safety and such.
So you know Nova Scotia, theydo an ice fishing derby for a
day.
So not all the events with theSafari club chapter is going to
look the same, but every yearthey will all host a banquet or
a major fundraiser with a dinner, and then they'll do additional
(30:43):
events throughout the year aswell and then they take those
funds to distribute back to thefoundation or to areas that they
decide.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
and I remember terry wheelan he's now a writer with.
With one of the major ones weheld up, we had a large
fundraiser and we actually sentbinoculars I think they were
Zeiss or Swarovski binoculars tothe rangers in Kenya to help
prevent poaching in a lot of thejurisdictions in Africa, and it
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was buying them with the fundsraised at that fundraiser.
So those are some of the thingsthat people would get involved
in.
That's what they do with theirfunds.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
The funds with the banquets themselves.
Actually only 30% comes back toheadquarters to help with the
administrative costs, to help mewith getting out and starting
more chapters or doing more ofthe government advocacy.
But 70% of the fundraiser theone fundraiser a year that they
would do, or their biggest onestays local with the chapter for
them to decide what to do withit.
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So that money stays local to thearea that they are servicing.
So whether it's the kids'education programs or they do
humanitarian aid, that sort ofstuff, the chapter decides that
70% they put into what theywould like to put it into.
So, it stays local to thoseareas.
If they host additional eventsin the year, they keep a hundred
percent of the proceeds fromthat to again, you know, invest
(32:03):
in to promote other activitiesand such like that.
So only 30% of their largestevent will actually come to
headquarters which is verydifferent from a lot of other
organizations.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Very good, and so are there events coming up.
How often do they like?
Is it in the springtime, mostof them in the fall.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Most of them are in the spring, but we do have some
that scatter throughout the fall.
So my best suggestion is tocome to the Safari Club website
and to take a look at where allthe events are, or to check out
the Safari Club Canada socialmedia pages.
So we have a Facebook page andan Instagram page and we'll be
putting and sharing out theinformation about the banquets
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upcoming banquets across Canadaon those pages.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, very good.
So, chris, how can people findout more information or get
details about Safari Club CanadaInternational, what you do and
where these pages?
Where is this actually located?
What your?
What's your uh page number,your address, yeah so instagram
and facebook, both.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
If you look up sci canada, you're going to find us
um.
Additionally, if you gosafaricluborg, that's the
website for the entireorganization and there's a
navigation you can go to the topthat.
You can look at sai.
It's under the internationaltab.
You can go to sci canada.
You can look at SAI.
It's under the internationaltab.
You can go to SAI Canada.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Specifically for my contact information, Right and
so, and there's a lot of youthinvolved.
What I'm seeing here at theToronto Sportsman Show is that
you've got a lot of otherindividuals because, quite
frankly, when we were therebefore, it was a lot of the how
shall I say the more experiencedindividuals, yes, but now I'm
seeing a lot of youth cominginvolved and getting actively
involved, which is good.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Well, at the Toronto Sportsman Show we actually
brought one of the sensorysafari trailers that one of our
chapters manages.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Okay what's that?
So the?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
sensory safari has a number of taxidermied animals.
So we have some African animalsthat are taxidermied in there.
We have some North Americananimals, we have a giant moose,
a bear, some deer, and then wehave some furs that hang on the
wall too, some trapped fur, andeven some wood ducks and
mallards that are in there.
(34:03):
So kids and adults can wanderthrough, take a look at the
animals, take pictures with them.
They can touch the fur, theycan see what these animals look
and feel like up close and it'sjust a great opportunity for
them to see them and to learnabout these animals from around,
feel like up close, and it'sjust a great opportunity for
them to see them and to learnabout these animals from around
the world as well.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Very good Now, chris.
One of the other things youmentioned was that you get
involved in federal andprovincial actions with the
governments for legislationreasons.
Can you kind of give us a bitof a background?
Do you get right down tomunicipalities and things like
that as well?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, by all means, whenever a chapter flags
something to me and they'relocal, it's a little hard for me
as one person to keep an eye onevery municipality across the
country.
But if a chapter flags to methat there's a municipal gun ban
coming up on an agenda, then Ican help them come up with the
resources and if it's closeenough to me, I can run out to
(34:55):
the meeting and attend themeeting and then we can advocate
for our members and for huntersand gun owners alike.
Likewise, provincially, I am intouch with a large number of
the municipal or the provincialministers of natural resource
and working with them.
Todd Lowen in Alberta actuallywe have a very good relationship
with and have been able toreally fight and push for
(35:18):
conservation and huntinginitiatives in that province.
And I met with the Minister ofNatural Resources here in
Ontario.
He was by the trailer yesterdayand we had a great conversation
.
I've worked with him in the pastas well, and so we were really
able to help our chapters helptheir members, and that's
ultimately what it comes down to.
(35:38):
My experience on ParliamentHill is where I come as an asset
and I can help navigate and getmeetings with politicians on
Parliament Hill to be able tofight for the larger things that
are of federal nature.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Very good.
Yeah, I reached out to thestaff within the ministries to
bring the minister here, as wellas the premier.
The premier for Ontario washere at the Sportsman Show
yesterday as well, along with anumber of ministers.
The Minister of Forestry andNatural Resources two separate
ministries in Ontario were bothhere and I worked with a number
of those Adam with NaturalResources and the Minister
(36:11):
Graham as well and Rebecca inForestry and and then directly
with the Premier to try andbring them out to expose them to
stuff like this, which isimportant.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
It's super important to come out and talk to the
people who are on the ground.
That's where you get yourinformation.
You can only have so manypeople flying in helicopters
taking a look and doing aerialsurveillance, but when you have
a large portion of yourpopulation that are getting out
in the woods and hunting andfishing on the landscape,
they're the ones that canactually tell you what they're
(36:40):
seeing and and it's a greatresource to be able to tap into
well, and chris, I recall one ofthe big things was that there
was a a very um.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
They were disconnected from, uh, the
ability to generate revenue whenI was minister of Natural
Resources and the economicimpacts that it had.
And I recall they were lookingat essentially increasing the
number of deer tags in oneparticular wildlife management
unit in Ontario and because itwas a short season, I said look
(37:11):
rather than increase the numberof tags.
Short season I said look ratherthan increase the number of
tags.
What you're going to do islet's look at stimulating the
economy in that area for anextended period, because right
now it's a one-week season.
But if you extend that to atwo-week season and that way
you'll increase your harvestpotential.
But not only that, but theindividuals who are
participating in that are goingto the local restaurants.
(37:32):
You're going to the localrestaurants, they're going to
the gas stations 100%.
They're going to the grocerystores to buy their stuff and
those.
So it helps those economies.
Quite frankly, in times of yearwhere you're up in Halliburton
Way or Wilberforce, where theeconomy turns, when the cottages
are gone and they're lookingfor this sort of thing, so
extending that season actuallygenerated revenue.
(37:52):
Yes, and those are some of thethings that aren't even taken
into consideration.
To municipalities, I mean.
When they brought in the moosechanges, when I was the
opposition critic for naturalresources, what I did was I
reached out to every one of themunicipalities and I said do you
realize?
This is what's going to happenand this is what it's going to
mean to your municipalities?
The end result was as a resultof that, I did my job and the
(38:15):
minister of the day was firedfor that, because they had not
taken that into consideration ofthe impact on the
municipalities yeah so those aresome of the things that people
like yourself and sei get themessage out and let these
individuals know that it hashuge economic benefits 100, and
we're here to be a resource tothe ministers as well.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
If they want to talk to us, they're able to reach out
to us and get our feedback, andthat's ultimately what we want
to do.
You know, there's a lot ofgreat organizations that do the
similar work in a differentfield, and we're all here to be
resources as well.
Bring to the table with SEI andhelp be a louder voice and have
(38:54):
a more collaborative voiceacross the nation to be able to
ultimately fight for our abilityto continue hunting and protect
our way of life.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Very good.
Well, Chris, let our listenersknow again how do they get in
touch with you, when can theyfind out more information or how
do they reach you to get intouch with you if they want to
find out more details aboutSafari Club club international
here in canada?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
yeah, so come to safari cluborg.
Navigate to the internationaltab that says sci canada and
you'll find my direct contactinformation.
There's some more resourcesthere about specifically what we
are doing in canada and at anytime on instagram and facebook
you can go to sci canada as well.
Thanks very much.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I really appreciate you being on our podcast and
chris, this is just another waythat people learning about some
of the things.
You can go to SCI Canada aswell.
Thanks very much.
I really appreciate you beingon our podcast and, chris, this
is just another way that peopleare learning about some of the
things and how things get doneout there and how the research
gets done out there under thecanopy.
Thanks a lot, chris.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Thank you for having me.
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