227. What Is Happening in The State of Deseret?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm awake, are you. I wonder how many miles I've fallen.
It seems I'll get to the center of the earth. Curious,
isn't it? And really nothing is quite impossible. Let's go
now to our new episode of The Unfiltered Rise with
me Heidy Love.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Howdy folks, your host Double jback here coming at you
live slash Live for another Operation GCD Fridays, once again,
your host of Operation JJ Vancier and more importantly not
the vice president anyhow, folks of innerwebs, I won't belabor
the introduction here any further. We've got a real barnburger

(00:42):
here on deck for you all tonight. It's xmoke General Conference,
if you will, with Heidi Love, the host of Unfiltered Rise,
and Jacob j the host of Rise Liberty Podcast. The
dudes out there trying to out JJ me and I'll
have none of it, sir. Well, you know our Operation
GCD for the first time. I'm both y'all. Thanks for
joining Mel GCD.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Of course, thank you, yeah anytime. I'm always always glad
when you have me on. And you know what, as
far as the out JJ and thing, you know, I
gotta try, man. I mean, look at you.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I can respect that respect and you do you do
a help of job at I like her style, sir.
And what's before I ask you? What's new at Rise
the Liberty? He do you love? Ma'am? How you doing
good evening? And what's doing unfiltered Rise podcast? Y'all doing
a lot of rising out there in the land of
dest what's that about?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
We're doing something out here. It's uh, it's definitely interesting,
that is for sure. We can see the cabal on
full and full fledged. They're not even hiding anymore. So
that's fun. I've just been busy, uh, looking at all
the things. I kept my mouth shut for a long
time on this. It's time time to open it up,

(01:52):
open it up and let it go.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, there's a lot of a lot of activity within
the hierarchy of the Mothership, you know, changing of the
profit into the guard. There we got the Charlie Kirk business.
And in the Land of Deseret, so that is the
Mormon land. You know that they started a new nation.
You know, folks are not familiar. They started a new
nation and then they joined America later about four decades later,

(02:16):
about eighteen ninety two. So I argue there's a lot
of the problems that are currently plaguing parapolitics in America
surrounding the Mormons, and have been for decades. Is hei
do to you? And I have documented quite a bit
of in our parapolitical discussions and Jacob Jay joined us
in our last one here on Fridays, and appreciate you
all joining me again here tonight the old GCD on
these Mormon terms. You know, it is seemingly though, it

(02:37):
seems like these folks believe they live in the Nation
of Deseret.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Still, well, they not America an oath.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean, they took the oath of the Black Sticks
in the Order of the Black Sticks. I don't think
they were kidding. They bleed the beast they lie, you know.
So I'm just saying I don't think anything changed.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, I don't think either, ma'am. I don't think. I think, sir,
what's near rise of liberty? And let let's get some
of your comments on that subject, please.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah. So, I mean the biggest thing I was just
telling you guys before we went live, I'm actually working
on a pretty big article right now. It will be
out this weekend, probably Sunday. Knowing you know who I
am as a person, but it's it's going over the
Charlie Kirk situation and all of the psychological operation tactics

(03:27):
that they're using exactly what they are, a lot of them,
yes sir, Yes, sir. And here's the thing for me,
as far as you know a writer of an article there,
none of them are new. They're all old, so you know,
they're super easy to lay out as far as that goes,
But it also goes.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
In took right if I may. I mean, that's kind
of what I've been going over on the uh the
Anatomy of the Satanic Panic, which is my Thursday's programmer here,
but I missed last night, so it'll be Thursdays on Saturdays.
I was gonna check that out starring uh, you know
every one's favorite psychological operations, aren't US Army Warfare Officer.

(04:09):
I'm up at mikey Akino. I argue that pitch some
documents of this man passed any Special Forces exams before
I call him a green bray just right.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah. So with in the article, it also goes into
you know a little bit about uh, you know, colt manipulation,
some of these things that we need to be on
the lookout for and definitely ways to be able to
protect yourself from it. Because over on my channel, I'm
all about solutions. You know, it's not just pointing out

(04:41):
the problem. I also want to you know, talk about
things that we can actively do and you know, the
average person, not like a millionaire or whatever, can do,
Like what can the average person do today to protect themselves?
So yeah, that's that's the new thing. And as far
as what's going on out here at Deserret, I mean, honestly,
it's wild because there's a lot of factions within the

(05:05):
Mormon Church. There's a lot of people there.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
They're all dancing around this Kirk situation. Even Jason Shavitz
is reared his ugly head.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Right right, I mean, I mean, as far as I know, the.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Oh, it's just that the LDS Church of Satan as
busy as ever too, because I mean this was a
massive human sacrifice field full of uh, you know, all
sorts of trauma nation and worldwide. And you know that
the story of Kirk and his wife and kids being
there complete bullshit. That was just a lie. They weren't

(05:42):
there at the event. But that was just.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Folks weren't there at his funeral either is a little
uh you know, weird ceremony down there in that concert
or the arena.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Right down at the Arizona Cardinals super Bowl arena. Yeah,
they they weren't there.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I know many pictures of his family as folks, and
in general, I can find one photograph of the family.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, and as far as I know, they haven't made
any statements at all. And then and then Erica Kirk
wore white to the memorial, Like that didn't cross my
mind initially, but I ended up with, well, I mean,
she's supposed to be wearing black if she's a grieving widow.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I'm think facetious, right, I totally agree. Now, the whole situation,
as you point out, I like, I like to check
out your series. It's great stuff, sir. At the SIVs,
there are numerous factions involved, as pretty evident as you're
pointing out. For example, Shavitz there the former congressman from Utah,
and he's kind of was part of the whole team
Trump admin of the first administration, at least, you know,

(06:43):
portrayed himself as such publicly on Fox News, et cetera.
His stepfather is Michael Dukakis.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Oh, I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And Shavitz made all of his money in a multi
level marketing scheme because you know there's ancient alien cargo cults.
They love their multi level marketing scheme.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right right, that's interesting, all of those let alone.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
If they can't sell it that way, they'll just make
a fake account, you know, overseas.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
It's fine, right, I mean, that's why Sensei blew up
around here. Everyone turned into a Sensei dealer.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's what I'm saying. They love that shit. And his
was one of those makeup ones. I forget which one.
He was, like the VP of marketing for some one
of the one of this one of those multi level marketings.
But he was from multi generation, generational family and obviously
do Caucus. He was ever legitimate presidential candidate. He was
the fake presidential candidate there. What was that eighty eighty eight?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, I believe so, Yeah, that's wild. I didn't know
he was connected to Ducaucus.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, his mother's been married to him for years. I
want to say he when he was younger, they were married,
like when he was a teenager.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Hmmm, I don't trust me.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
It is interesting because he's in Massachusetts and obviously the
more the blue blood stuff heritage. But Chavitz is obviously
they're they're of a Jewish heritage from Utah.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Rights are from Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I don't know what his heritage are. It'd be
interesting to know what his heritage is and that blue
blood nature of the Mormon Mormon uh, you know, obviously
Heidi and I are both, for example, descendants from John Lothrop.
Everyone's descended from John Lothrop and the Mormon hierarchy and
presidents and uh, you know Jeffrey Dahmer. You know these
kind of things.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Right, Yeah, that's wild. That is wild.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
So many, so many people like every time I converted.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Okay, well that was a solution because I was gonna say,
I'm pretty sure he he maybe went to college out there.
He's got some roots out there in some regard. Be
interested to see what his his background is. I just
know who his stepfather is, do Caucus. I don't know
why I know that. Don't ask me these questions, Jacob, don't.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
It's your head band. That's your head band.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I get things beamed in there from the mothership, right.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
And if we don't know how, you'll hook us up.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I always know my wol taken on. You know, it's
interesting that again the Mormon profit changeover. You know, dude
is a criptkeeper and died finally, you know that's interesting.
The new the new plus well, let.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Let's not forget on six sixty six right, nine ninety
nine inverted is six sixty six seven.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, everyone was like everyone was there for the
Kirk event, you know one just Shavitz and Phil. This
Phil Lyman character, he's a very interesting character. So speaking
of the syops, all the interviews, all the videos, all
the cameras from the house, you know, the you know
with the led shooter walking behind the street, that's all
from the Limeman family. They owned the property where you

(09:49):
v used sits them. You're shaking your head, Cirtle as
if you know these things. And I have no doubt
you are both locals. I am not. I'm an East
Coast Morman right out here.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Well in the club.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I'm also, uh, you know, kind of connected to Phil
because of the political thing. I mean, he ran for
he ran.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
He made a legitimate run for Republican primary against Spencer Cox,
who I'm pretty sure wears folks skin as a human coat.
You know, it's just my allegation.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
I'm on that one. I'm going to vote for that
as well.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I would actually agree with that. And I mean it
was blatant that Cox stole it. I mean the voter information,
Like even a five year old could look at the
voter information and completely understand that it was stolen, like
it's it's that obvious. And so I mean, Lyman does

(10:43):
have a legitimate gripe as far as that's concerned.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
You know, so, uh Trump, I'll go ahead.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh, just that Governor Cox and Lieutenant Governor Didre Henderson
both are just so blatant in their criminality and they
just don't give a shit period.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
So not anymore.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
They're putting it all on the on the out there
I said before we rolled, is you know they're just
gonna put everything out there now. They've got the new prophet,
went to University of Chicago, really hooked in with Chicago.
We've got the new pope who's from Chicago, and I
guess they're just going to be like, yeah, bitches, we're
from the Mormon mafia.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
What's up.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's interesting because everything behind the whole machine behind Kirk
is out of Chicago, including Kirk's family, including his wife's family.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Right, And I mean there's a whole propaganda machine tied
to Chicago as well. Plus I mean organized crime going
all the way back before al Capone.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, well in now Capone ran the streets here in Utah.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Organized crime of the Lineman variety of you may right, yes, yeah,
because mean again, there's multiple factions here obviously, and again
this Lineman character is behind all everything we see in
the media on these sie offs. Is Phil Lyman? Then
he got pardoned by Trump if I'm correct?

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Is that not that correct? Is that a correct statement?
To get commuted? What happened there?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I'm one hundred percent sure. I do know that he
did get pardoned, and there there was something something to
do with public lands and blm. I'm not one hundred
percent sure. But he actually was a sitting politician at
the time.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
For the state.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, for the state.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Weird. So, I mean it was a weird circumstance. I
haven't got all the way into, but the ins and
outs I have looked at her. It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah. And and here's the thing is I mean this
this here, okay, So Phil, My personal experience with Phil
is that. I mean, he is a solid guy and
he is honest. That's the one thing I can say
for him.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Can you hold that thought, sir, Yes, sir, just one second?
Police my favorite AI see I got Bill Kobe ball
Washers here. Welcome our channel. Thanks for your commentary being
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(13:23):
our channel.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Also one of my favorite parts of showing up and
doing your show.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
He brings him entertainment. I couldn't pay someone to be
that silly.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
He does. But yeah, now I'm I'm not gonna, you know,
stake my record reputation on him being the most honest
person ever on the face of the planet, you know.
But my interaction with him is he's a straight shooter
enough that I would trust him on a few things,
and so I do find it interesting, yes, yeah, on

(13:56):
some things, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean, it's interesting obviously that you know, like you said,
there's factional stuff. He's obviously in one faction in a major.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Party, right Oh yeah, yeah, and well maybe not him
per se. Like I said, I don't know him well
enough or his family, but his family for sure, because
they're huge. There's linemens everywhere, and.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
You ain't kidding, dude, I grew up some one of
my closest friends in the church growing up was a lineman, right.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Hence hence polygamy.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah yeah, And here's here's sending from this fella, right.
And his father was the was the first counselor from
multiple bishops. Just to give some context to who these
folks are even in the word I grew up with it.
This man's paternal descendants. He was one of the first
counselors of Joseph Smith, one of the corn of the
Twelve Folks, one of the twelve apostle guys.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
And I mean there's there's connections from what I understand
from what he's you know, said about his family throughout
all of this, because some of it kind of came
up with candice and stuff. Is you know, some of
his family goes all the way back to England, and
I'm sure there's all sorts of weird connections back there.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
But you're looking at his ancestors, sir right here, right,
So he was one of the early latter day saints,
you know for early like one of the OG's man,
he's an early dude. Again, they still have weight. So
his fought the dude, I grew up with you know,
boy scouts, you know more the Mormon Basketball Association. We
won the Holy Grail twice back to back years. That's

(15:19):
the you know I called that was the championship. I
called it. You know, they were really big Mormons and
Cincinnati were real big into basketball, real big.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
So I mean every church has a basketball court.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh so it was like that for you too. Yeah.
Oh yeah, dude, a hardcore dude. And like they were like,
you got to bring him the championship. Mean, you guys
gotta kidding me. I just get up here on Saturday
mornings just for fun, you know what I mean. Yeah,
they didn't appreciate me calling the championship trophy the Holy
Grail neither. So I mean, you'll have.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
You'll have that, you know, I mean that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
They typically didn't enjoy my commentary, including the coach, the
assistant coach, who was a lineman. Again, he was the
first counselor for multiple bishops, which usually they changed they
were the first counselor. But this dude have weight. He
just he wasn't doing that. He was taking attend and
so I'm like, now they trust this guy. They got
this guy's on you know, he's well, he's trustworthy for somebody.

(16:08):
So that dude's and that dude's Uh. They had like
fourteen kids. But one of them is working for the
congressman out of Cincinnati, US congressman. She's a staffer there.
She has been for years.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh yeah, that sounds that sounds right, you know.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right, that's what I'm saying. They're everywhere, right, these lineman's
the Mormons. Damn Mormons. Someone fed them after midnight. I
got three of three foreign ones right here.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
So what's what's interesting for anyone who doesn't know, is
there could be entire factions of Liman and not all
of them know each other. They could legitimately be the
same family, cousins, second cousins, you know, all of these
and not know each other. You know, there's there's a

(16:51):
lots of my family that I don't know. So it's
just the families are so big, like not everyone's going
to know each other. So when we are talking about
the factions and stuff, that is something to keep in
mind is it's it's so big, like the families are huge,
So it is broad.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Character is a very interesting character. It's actually, yes, Shaner
he initially claimed as his nephew. From my from my estimations,
it's it's his first cousin once.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Removed, right, which is one of the things that he
did correct because everyone was saying nephew, even Shaner actually
from what I understand, said nephew. But Phil was the
one that actually corrected everyone and said first cousin.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Right, and then you have so you have that dude
is and he his friends looks especially like those characters
we've seen in the surveillance images. I have a clip
from that. Yeah, Candice Owens is running this campaign against Lyman,
but her source is a staffer from Cox's campaign, right,
you know, I mean right, that's her on the as
what I'm saying, there's it's it's very interesting dynamic planning

(17:59):
out right now amongst all these things and the characters involved.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well, there's just a bunch of spooky, glowy things going
on over here. Like this is why, this is why
I've tried to tell everyone, Utah is the most important
state that you're not paying attention to.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
It's the hub, baby, Really, I can't see it. It's
because they're in the tunnels, So don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Uh, is this the year of the tunnel again? We're
doing a repeat on that too. They run out of ideas.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Huh they got They've got full tunnel access with car.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
See the tunnels. They got some huge ones underneath the
Temple Square there, don't.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
They Yes, they do, and they don't about it.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah, they're just like.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, well, I mean that's even come up in the
Charlie Kirk thing, right, you know there's a bomb shelter
underneath U VU and there's that hatch that Charlie Kirk
was sitting literally right next to. So you know, tunnels
have come up even in the Charlie Kirk thing. So
it's a big deal. Tunnels are.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Douce folks to these matters if they're unfamiliar and some
stuff that we can provide commentary on. But Phil Lyman, dude,
he's just everywhere and if folks remember there, so you
know from Revent one, I was like, oh this is
you know again, I'm an I don't expect folks to
have the same knowledge beside DoD, I'm just not folks
want to reach a different conclusion. Initially, I'm not you know,
diminishing that I'm just saying. As a training sniper, I

(19:21):
was like, that ain't a fucking shot, and that not
only is that not a shot? That ain't that ain't
a thirty odd six for damn sure, no, no. And
you know, I was initially willing to believe maybe it
was a deflection of some soft armor of a twenty
two long rifle that I was willing to initially, you know, tolerate.
I didn't really believe it. But uh, you know, after
a further review, I, man, this is fucking bullshit, you know,

(19:41):
for many reasons. I'll be happy to discuss that soon.
But you know, one of the things I saw initially
was all this stage craft. I don't know, the initial
snuff film that everyone was forced to watch of Charlie Kirk. Uh,
we see a lot of this. This, all these little
performances and side side distractions, one of which was a
turning point. USA kid from the UVU campus. He was
not to talk, and some other dude comes in interseas. Right,

(20:04):
he's describing how he sees Charlie Kirk slump over forward. Well,
this never happens. First and foremost that this description of
the activities this young fellow describes him not what you
see in the video, evidence and more. Phil Lyman's behind
all of it.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Right, and I got he was he was there.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
He seemed to be directing it, sir, watch this.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
Maybe I need to I saw Charlie Kirk get shot.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
I need to. I saw Charlie Kirk get shot.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
He collapsed in his seat, he fell over to the side,
he was carried off. Get blood on his arms, get
blood on his shirt. He was dragged off and carried
out of the venue. There was a gunshot that rang out.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
No, I'm not okay.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
I saw someone gets shot today.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah, it sounds like a.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
I saw Charlie Kirk get shot. He glapsed in his seat,
he fell over to the side, he was carried off.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
He had blood on his arms, he had blood on
his shirt.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
He was dragged off and carried out of the venue.
There was a gunshot that rang out.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
You okay, I'm no, I'm not okay.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I saw.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (21:19):
Question, did you guess see what happened?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (21:23):
I saw him.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Are you recording? Yes, you're live right now? Well, we're
we're recording. I don't know we're live because of the
sale service.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Hang on and probably the third okay, I was standing
from probably the third row in the bottom.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
I saw him.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I heard the shot ring out.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
I looked to my left, and then I looked over
to my right. I saw him slump over in his
chair forward.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
He slumped over.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
He had blood coming from the left side of his
neck down his shirt and he slumped over and he
was carried off.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Get off me, off me, emotions running high.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Right, So everyone's familiar with the second clip. I was
that looks so performative. And then then I saw the
previous clip that involved Phil Liman. Seemingly they were kind
of directing. Wait a second here, Fellas.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, he's kind of all over the place that day,
and he's kind of all over the all over the yeah, literally,
and he's kind of been.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
On his account accounts for that day SUPERSUSS or super
Sauss conflicting accounts.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean so, I I don't know
if anyone knows, but uh, Ian Carroll actually came out
here to UVU and walked around the crime scene and everything.
And apparently, now this is third hands, so take that
for what it is. But apparently when Ian Carroll was
on his way out here, Phil reached out and offered

(22:49):
to show him around. Phil lives like four miles away
from where U VU is, so that's not like a
quick skipping confirm.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
He confirmed that on an X space as I checked out,
and he that he was lurking in the X space
and then he's like, oh, Phil's here. So then he
came up and was getting kind of beefy, but he confirmed.
What you're saying is that that he did reach out,
and uh, he says, everyone's trying to make it weird
and it's not weird even though he lives four hours away.
I mean, yeah, I find campaign his VP who ran

(23:24):
with him for governor in the primaries for Republican primary.
She she lives four miles away. Now we see her
sister is the Good Morning America interview and her children
the film.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Which is which is wild? And think about it, like
some of some of the footage from his family's house
ended up at TMZ, so reach out to TMZ. Did
TMZ reach out to them? Did they give it to
the Feds? And the Feds gave it to TMZ? Like
where's all of that coming? And why is he out.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
There Good Morning meeting? That's my guess?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, I mean and again this isn't This is on
his face, it's not as abnormal as it sounds, because
you'll probably agree as well that you know, you have
Lyman's family Again, they sold UVU the the property for
the campus. They have like twelve homes on that one
street where we get the surveillance footage that someone gave
to TMZ. But what I mean, obviously there's a lot
of streets that have a lot of families like that.

(24:19):
But it is so that in itself is not odd.
It is the the nature of the which they're out here,
That's what I'm saying. So on his face, that's not
specifically odd, but it's the way they're releasing this video
footage from one house. You mean, the other eleven homes
of the family don't have any footage. And then secondly
they talk about a woman being there with them, and
Phil Lymon's given an interview talking about this, but won't

(24:39):
show anybody the footage, right, Yeah, with Robinson.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
That is Mormons are really compliant, and so I would
guess there is no more footage than anyone has because
they turned it over and did the right thing and
it's gone.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, you're not gonna upset the Mothership.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Right, Nope, they just will do what they're told and
think that.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
That that is kind of a new thing, at least culturally.
The whole comply to authority and don't ask questions. That
wasn't always a thing. From my estimation, I've been able
to track it down, like somewhere in the late seventies
early eighties that started being really pushed in general conference,

(25:28):
and then somewhere like in the late eighties early nineties
it was pushed as like like doctrine almost you know
that you just you follow the authority, you don't ask questions,
and God will understand even if the authority is wrong.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Well that's because they became the authority, and so then yeah,
they had to fix it.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
No, the general authority, right.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Exactly, the Council of the Fame.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
That is the concept, right, it is is the you're
part of the hive. You you you fall into order.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, that isn't the nature of why they can say
it's the free masonry stuff. But even Freemasonry, I think
use it for the same purpose. But I'm saying like
they can come up with every whatever bullshit reason why
they use the be High for the nation of desert.
But it's obvious to me that it's it's falling fall
in order because you're part of the hive.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Well and check this out. So it's actually interesting because
Utah has always had a very like, you know, no outsiders,
like a very independent, like libertarian esque spirit, like so
much so that the military sent in somebody from the

(26:44):
nat Naval Intelligence Research to actually figure out how to
subvert Utah culture because it was so independent and because
they knew that Utah's would actually reject, like any outside
authority come in telling us how to run our state,
which is kind of what you're seeing now is the

(27:04):
outside authorities really coming in, like the UN and you know,
different authorities like this, But that took decades to subvert.
So it is interesting. On one things, you got the beehive,
but on the other hand, you also have this really independent,
like outlaw kind of mentality.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Well they did this originally when they became a state.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Is they appointed the government appointed a governor for us,
took away the governorship that we had in place, said
you're no longer able to do that because we know
you're up to no good. And he literally said, this
was the choice they gave them about following was blood
will run down the streets if you do not follow this.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
So but like it's still it's a mothership kingdom because
we as we say with Phil Lyman, who's this underground?
You know, the Lees, the ut All's, the you know,
you name it, the Left, it's you know, the Romney's.
These folks were all descendants from the original members.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Well, let's be honest. They know how to keep a
secret because they're all in secret societies. So it just
went underground, that's all.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Well, but I'm saying it's it's it's literally a collective
of a few families still running the entire operation. Well,
at one point we had a we had we had
a Lee boy who was again intermarried with Clan Vance
out of the Pennsylvania chapter of the Society of Cincinnati,
and it is those Lee boys of the same family
of Virginia. So we see these blue blood nature of it,

(28:31):
not just Massachusetts, but Virginia with the Clan Vance and
the Lees there, and we see the descendants there in
are involved in the you know, major figure in the
Mountain Meadows massacre nine to eleven style there, and we
see again the anniversary in which this again nine ten
and nine to eleven. The anniversary of the Kirk event
was the Old Mountain Meadows massacre. That was their anniversary

(28:52):
of that. So we see how boys at the center
of that, this Lee fella who's intermarried with multiple Dvance
women of Clan Vance there, and we see his descendants
are all in the US Senate in recent years they
had his descendants were in the US Center from Oregon, Arizona, Utah,
and I think was it New Mexico in recent years
all at one time, all his descendants. So all that's

(29:13):
a crazy amount of power.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Don't forget Nevada?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Was it Nevada?

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
They had four seats of four cousins of the Lee
udalls there from all des sendate from that same dude
who got executed. He got Merton right allegedly, I wasn't
there when it comes in he matters Paraplegiclywittenair's I need
to see more details, especially right well, the wizards, they're
magicians by their very nature, right.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Actually, right well, And it once again, it also depends
exactly what faction you're talking about too, because not all
of these factions get along. So I mean, and sure
a lot of them will do business together even if
they are not getting along. You know, there you go, because.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's an important factor to understand because there's one faction
and a fundamentalist faction there at a northern Utah not
far from probably where you all are at southern Idaho.
And their names escaped me at the moment, but they're
tied in real deep with the Trumps.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
The Kingston. Kingston's most likely.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yes, ma'am, thank you. Yeah, he's a professional shooter, Don
jor Is and he was They sponsor him.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
They also sponsored the Romneys, Yes, they did. That makes sense, ye.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
The Romneys have been a very hard still fundamentalist I believe.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Oh yeah. Every time I hear Romney, I always think
of Gordon Bowen, which is a name that anyone listening
to this needs to be very familiar with. Gordon Bowen
is a very uh, a very sick, twisted man and
for some reason is still involved in the church in

(30:56):
many many ways even though he is excommunicated now.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
He was the bishop right in the Satanic business, I
believe it.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Here's my question you if you have the second anointing,
the only thing that can take that away from you
is if you MRK and innocent or you that's it
pretty much, or or you deny the church the two.
So if you didn't do either of those and they

(31:26):
excommunicate you, are you excommunicated?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I mean, I don't think so. I would believe that
Gordon Bowen just because of what I know about him.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Is, who's Gordon Bowen?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
So he's he was a an advertising director at some
huge law or not law firm, but advertising firm over
in New York. And he's done tons of work for
the LDS Church. In fact, they even gave him, like
it was like ten million dollars or something to make

(32:03):
a film and the film was so bad.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Him and Met Romney wrote about the Mark Kauffman affair.
I got to read that.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
He's the punisher.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, how he's saying, Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's the punisher.

Speaker 11 (32:14):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
He was a bishop at one point in time.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Right, I can't remember if he was a bishop or not,
but I.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Mean I know what he's doing documents though he was.
He was a real sick fuck.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, he he is a real sick fuck. You know.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I was talking about his friendship with Mitt's Romney, Sir,
I wasn't talking about those documents.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I was just so Mitt Romney actually sent two of
his kids to go live with Gordon Bowen over the
summer in New York, which is terrifying knowing what Gordon
Bowen is into. And it was at the same time
that you know, Jeffrey Epstein was also incredibly active in

(32:53):
New York.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
So well, there's absolutely no connections with Jeffrey Epstein into
these connections there. In fact, there's no way performer that
Erica Kirk has worked for the real estate agency that
was connected to Jeffrey Epstein's real estate purchases. That never happened.
We live in a Muppet world, sir, These things never happened.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I won't spit that out.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
She's a she's independently wealthy as a real she still
has a real estate license in New York, and she
has multiple property I did a whole bio. She has
multiple properties. She did, in fact work she slices with
the agency that Jeffrey Epstein utilized and his brothers utilized. Well,
not only as biolog I would argue, not as biological brother,
because I argue, who is Jeffrey epstein'sdaddy and what does

(33:34):
he do? Because you ain't gonna convince me that's six
foot one one and ninety pound dude is a Jewish fellow.
He looks like a wasp. He has a wasp name
under a passport from Saudi Arabia. I'm gonna go with
that's probably his birth name because he looks nothing like
his brother Les, brother Martin.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein is very clearly a He's like a
made up name.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, he's a cardboard cut He's more of a cardboard
cutout than than Pete Boody gay dude. And he's a
cardboard cutout, straight up car got out. He's a cardboard
cut out a human being, dude. And Epstein's even worse
than that. And I'm starting to look at Charlie Kirk
in the same capacity. And on that note, if I
would like to ask you all to join me in
my favorite game here on Operation GCD Fridays. Who's your

(34:15):
daddy and what does he do?

Speaker 12 (34:17):
You tell me who is your daddy and what does
he do?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
So that's the only picture we get of the Kirks. Now,
his parents were in their forties when they had young
Charlie there and his sister, I believe pardon me leave.
His mother was forty one and forty three with his
sister who's twenty nine years of age today. Seeing that photo,
I can find out her. Photos of her. His parents
are few and far between. They did not, I repeat,

(35:03):
I am not the vice president and Charlie Kirk's parents
suspiciously did not attend that service of his right and
look at the look at the well. Jesus has a
spot nick, sir, what do you think, ma'am? You're you're
you're of a medical uh you know nature. Besides that,
what's going on with that d spotnik? Where did it

(35:24):
come from? Where's it? Who's that down piece's daddy? What?
What did it do? Because that the man that they
show us as his father, Robert Kirk, the architect for
Trump Tower, and in Manhattan there were Donald Trump's primary residences,
you know, outside of marl Ago. He was the architect
and lives in Chicago there, part of that team Trump
Chicago element. I know some of those folks, not Robert

(35:46):
Kirk specifically, but I know of him. And uh, it's
interesting because that dide don't look like Charlie a doll
or Charlie don't look like him? Right?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Well, I was. I was just about to ask that, like,
do we know for a fact that that's his dad.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
No, here's the other weird part, sir and ma'am. When
I look for Charlie in public, you know doing you know,
formerly used to run an agency for the GCD Detective Agency,
the garbage not garbage can dude in that capacity was
greatest common the nominator. Because that's why I look at
these things. When I look at Phil Lemon being the
greatest common denominator in all this weird release of these

(36:20):
sye ops, I'm like, all right, well there's more to
this story with Phil Lymon, and we'll get into more
of that. But Charlie Kirkin of itself, Yeah, dude, like
he's not I mean that to both the old dude
in a very non gender capacity. I'm not trying to
apply gender to the worry, but yeah, he doesn't appear

(36:40):
in any public records with his family. His sister does. Now.
His mother seems to have had a previous child who
now is the age of thirty nine years old today
thirty eight and a half, who was also named Charlie,
which is strange. Now, maybe she's doing a George Foreman
or I have a dude named Kevin who named all
this and in all of his pets Kevin, including his daughter,

(37:03):
So you know, George former your family named all his
sons George. But you know, I'm not saying it's possible.
It's weird, though, it's weird, right.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Right, Yeah, I mean I just have kind of a
hard time believing that his sister, let's let's see, she's
like twenty eight, twenty nine or something like right there,
way not yes, sir, and she doesn't have an Instagram,
Get the hell out of here.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
And Charles Smith a Chad Smith appears along with the sister,
along with the parents, because that's weird, right right, And
they what you're getting at is the whole family seems
to have this constructed nature, manufactured nature to it. And
I'm not I don't think you're You're only you're off target, sir, right.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
And here's the thing I am now to the point,
I just believe, whether Charlie knew it or not, it
just totally seems like his life was the Truman Show,
you know, and very clearly ever ever since him and
Erica were married and you know, had their life together

(38:07):
from from that point on, I guarantee it was the
Truman Show. Now before that, I'm still up in the air.
But because I mean, if his family is like a
bunch of spooks, you know, a bunch of glowies, then
it's very possible that they are just because of what
they're involved in, Like they could just be non existent

(38:27):
in the public sphere because of the deep nature of
what they do. So that is possible. So they could
still be real people and everything, and it could have
been just like a normal life, normal whatever that is.
But after he met Erica and then got married, had
the kids and everything, that was very clearly Truman Show.

(38:48):
In my opinion, it's very odd.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts there? Ma'am
so a native all these matters?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yes, yes, well, somebody asks in the in the comments
here about Erica, and I do think that was his handler.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I think way behind the comments, thank you.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I just think that when we start going down the
Erica road, a lot of things will be explained. Charlie
does seem pretty innocent to me, like he might have
been a Truman Show person, and that makes me feel
really bad for him. And and you know, he did
he did some things as of late that are different
than he normally had. And the one thing about Mormon

(39:34):
factions is we have the Old School Mormons, which are
very loyal to Israel, and we have the New Gnostic
Mormons that are kind of hidden not We're not talking
about mainstream here. We're talking about powers that be uh.
And they are not aligned with that. And he seemed

(39:56):
to be changing teams uh. And if that were too,
that would not be okay with the people that run
the money.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
You ain't kidding, man. One of the folks that made
Charlie Kirk and turning point us say is a thirty
third thirty third degree Freemason and a Jewish fellow. I
call him fat Gie. I formally know this man. I'm
formally associated with this man. His name is his name
starts with the G. But you know, being the Mormon
or Mormon, being the Mason he is, I call him
fat Gie because a big G.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Anyhow, this dude is. I've seen him wage an innumerable
amount of power from a very small office building, corner
office in the northern suburb of Chicago where Charlie Hale's from. Again,
this is part of that whole contingent of the maid
turning point up there. It's a very interesting cast of characters,
but you know, he does it just so much of
it seems like a scripted nature of it. When you're

(40:46):
saying he turned he well, first of all, his mother
does have some sorry disregard. Erica's mother has a very
as Jacob J would say, glowy you know, resume. But
that ain't the only suspicious name about all these characters.
But nonetheless, you know, it all seems very scripted, you know,
you know, well, life sometimes imitates fiction and and vice

(41:08):
versa and whatnot. When you have a Fela who asks
a trans murder question and it goes boul pop and
then's supposed to be some transferry and then they're waging
all this psychological warfare of a bunch of nonsense on folks,
and then all revolves around a couple of small characters,
you know, a lot of it. And he's like, what
the Fuck's I mean? I realized the train has left
the tracks here in Upper Roll twenty twenty five, but
this is.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Ridiculous, well and for people that I mean.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
So also, his mom's in healthcare, and you have to
understand what's going on with that ever since Ruby Frankie.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Tyler Robinson.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yeah right, things And not only that, but they just
barely had Operation hive strike here in Utah that involved
teachers and healthcare and it's busting a part sort of.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Well a number of these characters dancing around Phil Lyman
work for that same healthcare spot. Right. It is Tyler
Robinson's mother, So that's weird. Allegedly, Yeah, yeah, well it's
allegedly weird. I would say it's pretty normal.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Right, well, I mean allegedly that they are. So here's
here's something that was also pointed out to me regarding
Tyler Robinson. So allegedly his dad was the one that
recognized the picture of the firearm, right, and that that's
how he was like, oh it was my boy, right.

(42:31):
But the problem with that is is the picture that
they showed us is not the picture of the firearm.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
That was used stock image provided us to buy new
great graciously, sir, the New York Times went out of
their way to provide is that stock image? Right?

Speaker 5 (42:47):
So didn't streams to you? Did it?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Just scroll the Manlica Karkana. They're like, oh no, we
switched guns, you know, what I mean, it's the same model,
go figure all this, all of it. Yeah, it's the
same old nonsense, right, the same.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
The only thing we didn't get was a purp walk
like we did with Lee Harvey. That was the only thing. Well,
that and the and the fact that it's two names
instead of three.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
So well, I'm glad you said that, because here's the
deal of Old Lance Twigs or Twigs or whatever. That
dude don't don't exist. I've looked for that, dude. This
whole family owned some shit. They owned that property, they
allegedly lived in. This character who's disappeared, the furry gay
ferry boyfriend, right, he doesn't. He doesn't exist on papers,
you know what I mean? And uh, and Tyler Robinson,

(43:31):
let's be honest about the situation outside of some what
could be you know, fictional uh photographs of his family
in one picture of thirty second clip of him getting
accepted the Utah State, which could in fact be AI generated.
To be quite honest with you, we're at that point
here in up world of twenty twenty five. Uh, you know,
the Uncanny Valley stuff is tripping tripping my brain hole off.
Though in a couple of these you know, these family

(43:53):
photos of the Robinson's, They've changed the narrative so many
times around it. His father was the sheriff Matt Robinson
of the Utah can Departments, not related any capacity, so
on and so forth. Right, So they can't get if
My whole point in all these matters is with the
autopsy included. If there wasn't autopsy, there wouldn't be nineteen

(44:13):
tails around it. If he did confess, and as he
did get turned in, there wouldn't be nineteen different versions
of why and how it happened. True, true, I mean
Patterson gam One footage. You know, it's twenty twenty five.
We the best footage we're getting his Patterson game. I'm
looking for Bigfoot in every one of those images that
give us because that's how granny it is.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Well, that's practically what Tyler was on that roof, right,
was bigfoot real?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
That's what I'm saying, dude. That's the Patterson gam One
footage of the entire.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Fair right there, right, the one where his shadow disappears
when he's on the roof.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Like, oh, there's if you started getting down in the particular,
there's so much time fooling around every one of these images. Again,
if there's a thousand, let's say there's one thy twenty
somethings there, They're all got their phones on. I have
an eighteen year old, he's got his phone on. You know,
he's ready to go. He's ready. I'm a I'm an
amateur photographer, have been since I was, you know, very
young teenager, thanks to those Mormons and the boy Scouts.

(45:09):
But you know what I mean, the uh, I'm ready
to go as well, taking photographs and videos. But you know,
he's my son's three j is ready to go at
all times. He beats me to the punch. And that's
what I'm saying. So you mean to tell me the
best foot as we got is like three basically three videos.
They all revolve around Phil Lyman, and most of which
one of which at least looks like the Patterson Gemlin

(45:30):
footage may or may not well.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Well from what I understand, I I save this post
on X I need to go make sure and like
download it, go put it through my thread reader and
save a PDF of it. But somebody broke down that
UVU just upgraded their cameras like three years ago, so
they have ten ADP like top of the line security

(45:56):
cameras all over the place, literally all over the place.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
And you know why they do that, sir, liability The
insurance would pay a lot less and insurance liability premiums
if you have cameras up.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Right, which I mean they had cameras up before, but.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Saying high quality. If you want to be able to
see the fine details of any you know it's sexual celts,
you know, the stuff that insurance companies have to pay.
I'm just saying I've done some work for some insurance companies,
right with p I business. These are the things that
concern and they want to know. They want to be
able to separate liability from themselves and apply to another
party in the most crisp and video format possible.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Right, I mean it makes total sense.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, yeah, no one wants take.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yeah, I mean I I don't know. There's well, and
this is how you know it's a sy op. Right,
there's way too many questions, not enough answers. Nothing makes sense.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I mean that the more questions we have, that's key
in identifying a SI up right.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Right, So I mean, what more do you want? At
that point? You know, it's like I don't know and
I find it interesting too, like there's all of these
conservatives that twelve months ago, right before Trump was in office,
right there towards the end of the election, everyone was

(47:17):
calling for the abolition of the FBI, right, which I'm
all for. I've I've been calling for the abolition of
the FBI for years now.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
You know, I haven't the abolition of the FBI since
I was able to talk friend, right. But I famously
gotten a beef with my aunt. She was who worked
for the FBI for thirty two years, thirty three years,
maybe thirty four hours somewhere around there. She when she retires,
she was ahead of their forensics lab. She started recruiting
me in to the FBI when I was twelve, so
by age fourteen, I started looking into these matters and

(47:46):
I asked her a question. I was like, some of
this Hoover guy seems like a real dick bag. And
she did not like that. We still don't talk to
this day. Who's a god to those people? And I thought,
you know, I thought, well, maybe she's gonna agree with
me because Hoover didn't let women become agents. And she
was a secretary for the first six or seven years
of her career.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Right, which is kind of weird because he was a
cross dresser.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
But well, he didn't want you know, he didn't want
him competing with you know, he wanted to work.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
You want to have the best he wearies. Let's get real,
I know as.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I'm talking about, right, right, I mean it's just interesting,
But so that these if.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I made the FBI once again Society of Cincinnati founded
by Charles Bonamparte, you know, I would they say he's
Napoleon's grand nephew. I would argue, that's Napoleon's grandson. That's
a different tale altogether, of a different color altogether. And
then jag Or Hoover honorary member of the Society inducted
in nineteen forty six in the New York chapter.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Interesting, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense though, well,
I mean roads.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Lead back to the society, sir, so again, and as
Hiding and I have documented, it's an offshoot of the society,
or the Mormons are an offshoot of the society.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Right, I mean that makes sense as well. So, I
mean you have these conservatives calling for the abolition of
the FBI twelve months ago now right now, A lot
of the conservatives are saying, well, if you don't believe
the FBI because you know FBI or patriots, now, then
you know you're the problem. You're what's wrong with this.

Speaker 13 (49:26):
Right?

Speaker 6 (49:28):
Right?

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Exactly are you.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Telling me you want me to believe JFK Junior is
not alive? Does every want me to believe?

Speaker 14 (49:36):
Right?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
The Society of Cincinnati member out of the Maryland chapter?
How do you pointed that one out to me? JFK Jr?
You know he's not alive, is what you're telling me?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Right?

Speaker 6 (49:45):
Well?

Speaker 3 (49:45):
And I also kind of just want you to believe that.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
JFK's head just did that by itself.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Oh dude. So when I saw this snuff film from Kirk,
that's all I kept saying. Back into the left, back,
into the left.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Back into the left.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Look, this is all recharging the house.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
That's why I took so long to talk about this,
because it was right before nine to eleven, and that
has grown, you know, slightly. I'm not saying it's not important,
but it's gotten less impactful because these younger people coming
up right, they don't know as much, and we're getting
older and maybe don't think.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
About it as much, or we're busy with kids or whatnot.
And I'm not saying, you know, it's not important. I'm
just saying these things fade, just like JFK.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
So all these things are starting to fade, and then
what happens They recharge the house.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
With this you know, trauma for the new generation. They'll
never forget it.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, this is this generation's JFK, right,
I mean, don't I don't think Charlie Kirk necessarily is
as important as JFK. But we're never going to see
another high level political assassination for you know what the
next fifty years, forty years, you maybe maybe thirty, I

(51:03):
don't know, but it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Well, they just released the papers, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Go ahead, Sorry, we have a delay, And people don't
always know that, and I tell them all the time
because they're like everybody in.

Speaker 12 (51:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
And so what I was saying, yeah, is just that
you know, we're never going to have the answers. First
of all, we're hot off the presses from the JFK release,
and and also you know that kind of charge things.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Then this charges things, then the profit dies.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Then all of this stuff is happening boo boo boom,
and it on the sixth day out of the ten
days for how am I going to say this a.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
Certain the juice the juice uh.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Holiday, Yeah, the Juice holiday for repentance. Yeah, so six
six six and the sixth day out of ten for repentance.
I'm not I'm just saying they do this. I'm not
saying that. You know, people that celebrate on that day
or bat or whatever, they know all of these days
and the intention behind them and how they can charge it.
And if you ever go to a University of Utah game,

(52:12):
they will do these weird things, like an actual thing
in the middle of their little when the football players
sit down, called charging the house. And it's very ritualistic.
This is not just games here in Utah. They just
don't know what they're doing. They have the magic without
any answers.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, I would. I would argue that looking at any
other context, I think you're spot on man looking at
another context of being correct, because by their fundamental nature,
they are ceremonial magicians. They're they're fucking wizards, ancient Alien
Carlo cult wizards, and they haunt the pale moon beams
that's what her yep, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Right, yeah. I mean there's so much of that out
here too. And I mean this is kind of a
cross like American culture, right, is like people have just
been taught magic isn't real, and it's like, yeah, okay,
magic as far as, like I guess Harry Potter kind
of what it looks like and how it works. You're right,

(53:10):
that doesn't exist. But magic does exist and it happens
everywhere all the time, and to say that it doesn't
is incredibly ignorant. So and it's just like one of
these things like you know, the greatest thing the Devil
ever did was, you know, convince people he didn't exist.

(53:32):
It's like same thing, same thing with magic. It's like
we get older adults and magic doesn't exist, and it's like, okay, well,
you might not believe in it, but that's not the
important part. The important part is whether they believe in it.
And they do believe in it, and whether it's real
or not also doesn't matter because they believe in it
and they're putting the intention and the energy into it.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
There you go, that's yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
That's part of the whole bit, right. They want folks
to it's battling. It's like the Sacon. There's damn Satan.
It's to mikey Akino. They're part of his whole stick
of his syeopice have folks argue on some antics.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Right exactly that that's one of the one of the
best ways. I mean, cultural Marxists do this as well.
They get you into the weeds, because as soon as
they get you into the weeds, then they sucker punch
you and it's easy to get you messed up and
frustrated and then they win the game.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So for sure, dirty, dirty trick. Before we go any further,
I want to get into the prophet stuffcause I feel
like that was very timely.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
But the uh, the matters of Charlie Kirk you are
very interesting again. I you know, where why would his
folks not attend his his his sermon is memorial.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Service because they're scared?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Probably, I mean they probably, man, they had fireworks and
I think they had a hot dog card outside. It
was a real part more carnival, you gut. They had
a dunk take for for Pete Hags at the Secretary
of War.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
They were dream people to vote, they were accepting donations
to t p U say it was it was.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
It was a party, dude, You're it was WrestleMania, dude.
If Hulk was still around, you know they you know,
Hope would have been there ripping his shirt off.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, you know. I I just
implore anyone go look up pictures of Jackie Kennedy during
the JFK funeral. I mean, she's decked out in black,
but she's.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Also chumbing it up and laughing about with the Pope.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yes, right, but I mean even still two weeks later,
Erica Kirk's on Charlie's show, laughing her head off talking
about how.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I got I got a clip to emphasize the weird nature.
This was actually the Economic Times to put this together.
I took the sound off because it was just dumb music.
But you know, you know, even the Economic Times asking
where's this dude. We're the dude's parents, right maybe yeah, yeah,

(56:12):
it's weird, super weird. Oh my bad, it's Times entertainment.
I think it's an Indian thing because oh that's what
it is. It's out an India because it's cash app
hotel related. I think, ah, you know what I mean,
as far as you know, why are they publishing this
right right now? He did not invent the cash app.

(56:32):
I mean, look at the scene, right, you know what
I mean? Right now there's this I mean, this whole
conspiracy theory boiling now that Charlie Kirk's father died. Really
that's the new one. Well, I mean after after they
didn't show up, they had to come up with something
to spend out there, right, So cash app Hotel not
not the inventor. I'm not the vice president and FBI

(56:55):
director of cash app real name Patel did not invent
the cash app, but he is apparently shacking up with
his Mormon boyfriend in Las Vegas. What are your all
thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Well, I'd like to say on your clip, how many
goddesses wear white? And is that an homage to the goddess?

Speaker 15 (57:13):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I like her style. Man, that's a good point. That's
a good point. We're talking goddess worship amongst all these characters,
right and thinking.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
About that weird hug she gave Trump.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
That was all our little.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Smile he did and that came out.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
That was all weird. That people can look at that
and say magic doesn't exist.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Well, and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
It doesn't even matter, like you said, if we if
we all say it doesn't and it means nothing great,
But they still, like I mentioned about these days of repentance,
it doesn't matter what we think or what other people think.
It matters to them. It's a specific day for a reason.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
These days.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
There's tons of Satanic holidays, there's tons of days, which
you know way better than I know. But I'm just
saying these days are charged, and they do certain homages
to certain people, including goddess worship on those days period.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Oh for sure, for sure. Now I like to point
out of here that this name right here, Frank Figalozzi,
that's got to be made up name. There's no way
that's a real name. But there is numerous accounts. In fact,
Cash Buttail requested that he telecommute from his We don't
have a home in Vegas. His apparent boyfriend has a
hum in Vegas who's a Mormon time share owner. He

(58:35):
owns a he's a president owner of some time share
company in Vegas. Real sketchy situation. A lot of complaints
of the better business be revenue what I'm talking about,
And apparently this dude's been running the FBI out of
dude's home there, and you know, everyone's like, oh, he's
got this massad beard of a girlfriend or a girlfriend
it seems to be a beard. Whether or not she's
a massid or not that it needs to be seen,

(58:56):
I think. But we do know one of the known knowns,
if you will, is the fella he is living at
where he's cantel commuting to run the FBI out of
Vegas is indeed a multimillionaire Mormon who runs a strange
corporation and put it in.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
That cash is totally getting his back blown out. That's
my opinion.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
I have seen its repercussions of that. I just said,
I have seen the repercussions of that.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
You might want to be careful, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, beware, right, beware yeah? Well, and also I mean
other things to be aware of.

Speaker 11 (59:35):
There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way, I've
been shot with a laser beating twice.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Watch out, folks, they got they got they got old
ted twice. Stay vigilant. Isn't it weird that the cash
hotail is shocked up out in Vegas?

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Right?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
It's weird, right, Oh, it is.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
It's entirely weird. I mean, as far as I know,
that's never happened, at least publicly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
With another I hit it in the closet right right,
like I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Said, even publicly like it's never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
But well, everybody knew I Tolson was his boyfriend, you
know what I mean, he was the assistant director of
the FT. But I mean, at least they they've put it,
they put on some suits and minute, look right, and
this dude's out there probably you know, to working on
his boyfriend in Las Vegas nightclubes for all I know, right, well,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
I have you know, heard through the grapevine that there
are people that have worked in different clubs in d
C that have seen him around. You know, he's staying
up all night doing all sorts of drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
So what are we? What are we talking about?

Speaker 16 (01:00:38):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
What?

Speaker 14 (01:00:39):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Himy was a dude. I was a resident of DC
for six and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
A lot of sugar.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I've heard a lot of stories about a lot of
these folks while live there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Right, I mean the stories are a lot of you know,
no sugar, so a lot of pills. So you know
whether that's true or not, I don't know like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
I wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Do you know what neighborhoods were talking here?

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
No, I just know that you know, there's there's been
people on X I've I've seen the posts saying, you know,
I'm a worker in this club in d C. And
you know I've seen so and so, and usually Cash
Betel's name shows up a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
It was one of it was the DuPont Circle a
ka as the locals call it the Fruit Loop, you
know for the that's where the Society Cincinnati headquarters is located.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
That doesn't ring a bell. But I'll see if I
can find some of these posts and send them your way,
because they they were really really interesting watching that you
can from the Fruit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Here's a side note for y'all, and I do think
both the all for joining here tonight to go GC
duh DuPont Circle Starbucks still their location still there. I
used to. I used to live in Adams Morgan, the
neighborhood to the north of there, and I would frequently
do I use their inner interwebs down there, as I
was too cheap to get mine. I was never home
at the time. I was always traveling, was on active duty,

(01:02:04):
never in my apartment, so never saw fit to get
intern webs there. So I'll get down to the Starbucks
to do my homeworks and whatnot at night when I
was in town, and I got to know the local
breists and whatnot there, and they entertained me with a
story one night, a tale of how Seondra Levy and
two other brunette women were the last scene at that
Starbucks location in DuPont Circle, all merked within eighteen months

(01:02:26):
of each other, an eighteen month timeframe. These three brunette
women all in their mid twenties, and they were all
dumped in National parks there in the DC area. So
these folks are the Starbucks that concocted over time. This
was a local mystery there amongst the baristas that there
was a serial killer operating out of their Starbucks, all
the bis of being that serial killer for telling me

(01:02:47):
the story, so you know, you take it for what
you will.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Right kind of you know, bring brings to mind like
the yogurt shop murders.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
So well that one reminds me of murders of old
Mary Mahoney. Are you hip to that tale?

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I know I've heard the name, but no, no, I'm
not not familiar.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
It is indeed how we get Matt Drudge of this
fake conservative really media he's born out of He's born
out of the Monica, the Winskey incident, which is born
out of the Mahoni murder. Right right, So Mary Mahoney
was from towsand Maryland. She joined the Bill Clinton first campaign.
She was a staffer from the White House from day one.
She She resigns in April of nineteen four, nineteen. I'll

(01:03:32):
look at that in a second. She goes to work
at the Starbucks, not the DuPont Circle one. She goes
to the other location at the time in Georgetown. That
location has since been changed over something else in recent years,
but we still a Starbucks until recent a few years ago.
She three folks, all three employees, murked two shots to
the back of the head in the back office. No

(01:03:53):
signs of fourth century, nothing stolen. She'd been working at
that Starbucks for four months after she left the White
House for a number of years and been with the
campaign before that. And strangely enough, Chelsea Clinton, in her
secret Service detail, was documented coming into that shop two
weeks before her murder.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Oh wow, isn't that convenient.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
And meeting with Mary mahoney, So there was an established
relationship there. She wasn't that much older than Chelsea. I
mean she was I think at that time, maybe twenty
right one, maybe Chelsea would have been sixteen seventeen, you know,
not Bill's daughter, obviously web Hubble's daughter. Right, who was
earned add And what does he do? It ain't Bill
heard daddy was web Ubblem? What does he do a

(01:04:34):
lot of time in the federal pen? And he probably
should have done a lot more.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Right, Yeah, that's that's clearly not Bill Clinton's kid.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Dude, not even a chance, dude, not even a chance.
You can't. First of all, let's just let's just take
note of all the shit coat and in propaganda we
live in and hear him up in World twenty twenty five.
You search Mary mahoney, you don't even get anything close
to you know, you know, there's not even a hit
near the top, dude, and ury these things pretty good

(01:05:05):
these days, right. Yeah. They put a they put a
local drug dealer and murder for in prison for it,
and it was pretty dumb. So it was nineteen ninety seven.
She was twenty four years of age eight the folks
came in the following morning, found the place unlocked, and
again the employees merged in the back. Nothing was stolen.

(01:05:26):
This signs of fourth century. Dude, No crackhead did this.
This is you know, it's one of those cases, just right,
Well the crackhead did it. Yeah, March first, go ahead,
I see why this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Uh, the the yogurt chop murders reminds you of this.
I yeah, I totally see the parallels.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah, and they didn't even get so. Once again, like
the evidence they brought the guy in was not even
the evidence of that crime. It was the evidence of
an attempted murder of an off duty Prince George County
Police office.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
So somebody said in the in the chat, crackheads are savvy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, oh they're creative. Home but they are creative. But
they're creative for one thing, and one thing I've experienced
in my law enforcement career, I've experienced a number of
cra activities and instance in the actions of cractivity. They
are creative. I'll tell you that this one thing there.
You can drop a crackhead off in any form. You
could drive a crackhead two thousand miles away from where
they were living. Put them in a foreign not foreign city,

(01:06:18):
but foreign to them. You know, driving from New York
City to Seattle, you can, They'll give them half an hour.
They will find crack within thirty minutes in Seattle. I
don't have to know anybody. There's like a fucking magnet, dude.
They did. They're creative in that regard, but.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
They are they are dedicated. Here's the thing is, you know,
they get up, they get out there, they go find
what they need.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Period.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
So I don't I don't want to hear any excuses
from anybody. I can't. I can't. Whatever if crackhead can,
you can.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Dude, they have Yeah, for sure they have. I mean
they have nothing even on the Wikipedia, the source of
all information on the inner website.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
And the Starbucks murder, that is very odd. I'm gonna
have to look into that story.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
So what what happens is that she's murdered on they
get murked on the July sixth, but no one finds
him until July eighth, I think is how it goes.
Because that's a Saturday, I believe, and it's a long
weekend because of the long federal weekend, because of the
fourth of July. So what happens is it's leaked to
to who's homeboy who perpetrated the Russia Gate stuff for

(01:07:20):
for a shite? You know, I'm talking about no, the
the the media fella. Oh, the main guy. He did
a Seth rich Files podcast, Seth Richmond. Oh it's a dude,
it's the same you said, it's the same script. It's
the same cast the characters from Lewinsky affair to the

(01:07:43):
Russia Gate Trump business, including the White House. Lonnie Davis
Christmas Steel plays in them roll back then too, but
he was a dispute guy. So Lonnie Davis was the
attorney for Trump's attorney, the one that you know perjured
himself to to Colonia shit, real hood, red ship. But
he perpetrated all that stuff about the whole check to

(01:08:06):
Stormy Daniels, member of next him by the way, really Daniels. Yes,
she even tweeted out. Oh she tweeted out back in
twenty twelve. Ye know, I joined a cult, y'all. I
paraphrase that. But it's the same, right, and the tattoo
she got on her navel, right, you know, it's clearly
covering up the branding she had and she was part

(01:08:26):
of the upper rationale of the sex coll.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Right branded right, yeah, no, that makes that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Michael Cohen's attorney was Lonnie Davis. Lonnie Davis was the
chief of White White House Chief of Council. He leaks
to Michael is a cough. There we go, I had
to sort through my molten hops and bong rest in
there for a second. Michael is a cough work for
Yahoo News. They walked is a Coff's article into the
FISA court and said, look, yeah, the Federal Beer of Uninvestigations.
You know, this is why Comy's getting indicted right now,

(01:08:54):
right now, Like hey, look, uh you know there's this
article saying that Christopher Steeles reports all career. We got
Christopher Steele's report, we got Michael Isakoff's article. Well, Michael
is a kaffer at the article based upon Christopher Stee's report.
That was the sole source. So but they walked it
into the fisacord like, hey, we got evidence. So ISA
kauf was supposed to break the So Lonnie Davis is like, hey,

(01:09:16):
we got uh, you know this White House staffer that's
gonna break uh you know, this sexual affair. It's July fourth, right,
July fifth, that happens, right, he's talking to Isakauf. Matt
Drudge allegedly swoops in and scoops the story, right, but
the story doesn't really break until months later, and there's
this weird dance that goes on and Drudge is introduced
to then scoop Davis, and he he ends up overtaking

(01:09:39):
David Brock. You know, James alfontis the com Pizza his boyfriend.
He was the chief propagandist against the Clintons in the nineties,
and then the day after they left office, he's like, hey, yeah,
we're best friends. And then Drudge came in to replace him.
But Drudge gets one out of the Lewinsky affair. Scooping
is a Kauf who's a Polzer Prize winning up it

(01:10:00):
and all of that whole situation. Man, it takes takes
four months. Thanks for I appreciate your little sticking with
me on this for both I'm sorting through some details
I haven't looked at in a long time. But they
they play us weird dance for four months because they're
hiding Mary Mahoney's murder. She was the person that was
gonna leak it out on July fifth, when Monnie Davis

(01:10:21):
starts to talk with Michael Isikov, he doesn't hear to
the name Monica Lewinsky for six more months. Hmmm, right,
we don't the infamous uh Linda Tripp stuff doesn't happen
till October. This is July, That's what I'm saying. We
see this weird dance play out. But it's because on
July fifth, that's who they were talking about. Mahoney, she's
dead two days later.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
See. I always thought, always thought that there was something
very strange about Drudge.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Oh he's a real douche, right, real douche.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Right, right, I mean media, you know, hey, mocking media.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
But still he replaced David Brock, So David Brock flipped
sides and we matters. He runs all the media matters
ship right, all the stre is funded. This is all
everything gets kind of that gets bottleneck through media matters.
They're the one who send in all the memos everybody, right, right,
So he weird. He was the number one person against

(01:11:16):
the Clintons in the media in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Right, Yeah, that's so odd. And then it makes it
fits perfectly though, it makes so much sense, right, that's
that's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
And I didn't want to take us too far off
the h on a tangent here, but that and now
that I mentioned all these things, man, I got I
gotta go back to more of the details of my
brain all here, because this is all very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Right right, Yeah, that's yeah. I've always just felt like
there was just something kind of off about the Drudge Report,
you know, And I guess that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 14 (01:11:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
So everyone says that she had a relationship with Bill.
That's what all the you know, you go the Clinton
body count, like, oh, you know, survey says she had
a relationship with Bill, And I would argue she had
a relationship with Hillary, right right, I mean, let's call
let's call it, you know, spade a spade if you will, sir, Yeah, yeah,
man as well. I don't know, no offense. I'm just

(01:12:18):
saying I like to call him out the season, right, No,
I would. Actually, she drives a super U, she attends
liz Fair Festival.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
She listens to four non blondes on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Yeah, understand, that's what got her in trouble, right, this
is what got her murked, right, So you can see
the Day after the Thing League from Monnie Davis right
to Michael is a coffin Strange these guys are involved
thirty years later in these affairs with the Trumps Russia
Gate nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Right, interesting cremated ashens ashes given to family or friends.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
We don't want any evidence, right of course.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah, she's from a fairly wealthy, wealthy family over there.
She against She attended towns and University from over there too, hmm,
Internship at the White House, work at a series of
coffee bars. So she starts working with the again with
the first Clinton and presidential campaign, right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Okay, so she's over in Baltimore, so I mean that's
right in the thick of things.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, Well, here's the deal. So House of Cards is
based upon Bill Clinton parody, kind of satire if you will,
Kevin Spacey in Baltimore, there's a lot of Estrangelyn, there's
a lot of Clinton activity. There's a lot of cr
activity in Clinton activity in Baltimore, right right, and.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Mormon money over that poppy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Let's not forget well you Yeah, you can't rule them
out in that area because that was with the first
East Coast Temple, right, I mean in our modern era, right,
our modern era temples.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Right, they like to not touch it themselves, but they
sure make money off it, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Well, that temple in DC is unrivaled by anything else,
but except for Temple Square, right, the local think it
looks like the Wizard of All is in the winter time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Yeah, I would agree to that. I would agree to that.
I mean as far as making the money off of it,
I mean they practiced. The ld S Church practically owns
Coca Cola here in the state. And also that they're
the huge thing as of lately has been uh, you know,
soda bars, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
The disting cookies.

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
Yeah, crumble and crumble.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
They love sugar, huge sugar addiction here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
They got the Hawaiian real family as part of the church.
They got to get the you know, they got the
sugar in there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
You mix milk and syrup in there. Like I, I
can't drink it. Either leave the Coca cola alone or
put the coke back in it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
That's it, the prophet said, drink it, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Well, see the thing here because one of the largest
cash crops out of the state was always sugar beets.
So southern Idaho and northern Utah. It's sugar beets, which actually,
as far as the cash crop goes, does produce more
sugar and better sugar than sugarcane.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
And it was the first, Yeah, it was the first
company that literally the profit of the church said we
will either build this sugar company or we will like
fall as a church period, because they had already set
up the railroads to run it all out, so it
was their first drift.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
It was their first end zign peaks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Right, So they'll never cut off sugar then, Isn't it
weird how they dictate what you can or came out
put in your system, like the whole caffeine and business
and the hot and cold you know, all that and
different interpretations that didn't rupt until what the mid sixties
in a general conference.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Yeah, that's that's when it started it once again around
the same time. Wasn't really pushed super hard until about
the late eighties, and then it was like really pushed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
You know, I couldn't have sodas, Dolphees or tease. I
could have a lot of sugar though. You could get
yourself some kool aid, some gatorades, get a lot of
sugar in you there's no problem, right. Oh yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
It's a weird dynamic in green jello, I mean green
jello jello, just all sorts of jel.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Oh man, I please hold that thought.

Speaker 11 (01:16:33):
Yes, okay, Well we'll take these home, run through them
with a fine tooth comb.

Speaker 8 (01:16:46):
Cross the t's and doty lower case jays's, lowercase jays.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
You're on this Phil Lymon situation, will and cross some
tea's there and watched. I got a couple of clips
from Candace, because again she's really the only one pointing
out the obvious that Phil Lymon is connected to all
this business.

Speaker 9 (01:17:21):
Yep, yes, sir, So something very strange happened this weekend
and I need to tell you. I need to tell
you guys about it. I need to offload this and
get your opinion now. First and foremost, I have to
tell you about this student who I'm going to refer
to as Nick. Nick is not his real name. I'm
going to refer him as Nick to protect his identity. Obviously.
I came across Nick very early on in this investigation.

(01:17:45):
In fact, you might recall when I shared a photo
online of a person that looked suspicious. He was wearing
like a black suit and black glasses, and he seemed
to have a strap hanging out of his bag.

Speaker 17 (01:17:58):
Here he is right here, and he was in the
food court.

Speaker 9 (01:18:02):
I shared that photo because Nick had sent it to
me into our tips box and said, this person looks
rather mysterious. He's running through the food court. And from
from there we kin. He kind of became my boots
on the ground. He was like, Hey, go to Uvu.
I'm a major caniz Owns fan. I want to help
in any way that I can. Okay, So that's how
that happened. That was really and right away he told
me on like day two of the investigation that he

(01:18:24):
worked on Phil lyman scubernatorial campaign. Phil Lymon ran against governor,
the current governor Cox, and he lost. And one day,
very early on, this supposed have been like day three,
Nick cold calls me and Phil Lymon's on the phone. Okay,
like I said, he ran for governor, and I was
prepping for the show and things were early on and

(01:18:46):
I was still in a very aggrieved phase and I
didn't really know why I was on the phone this
guy Phil Lymon. I was like, hey, thank you so much.
I appreciate that you're offering help. And Nick insisted to
me he's a fantastic person. He has tons of resources,
he knows the area if you need any help.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
So this Nick character, she said, it's a pseudonym. And
since then Phil Lyman has been out there just putting
that dude on blast his real name, and he's apparently
a staffer from Governor Cox m right not Phil Lymon's rightful.
So what is this dynamic? What is this Phil? Because

(01:19:22):
Spencer Cox again, he looks like he wears some folks
skin is a human coat. I feel like him and
Brandon Feugel dance around in other folks skin, you know,
on the weekends. But you know Skinwalker Ranch guy, you
know he's a situation.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
He's probably Skinwalker Ranch guy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
No, they are, yeah, him and him and Skinwalker are
friends and they're real dumb dumbs too, so I figured
they take it literally. They just wear human skin and
they're just run around that ranch on the weekends. But
you know, the I don't think they're too right. But
what is this dynamic there? Because they're both Republicans, But
are they what's going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Not Republicans?

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
What's a republican.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
I mean, what is a Republican? That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Yeah, what is republican? Certain? Please or ma'am, and please
use it in the sentence, because I have no idea
what these people are.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Republican? Is anyone who identifies as a Republican?

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Right? Spencer Cox? And it was pretty close, right? So
what was the dynamic here? Right? What was the breaking
point between these two?

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
Probably is thecret society argument or a wife argument?

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Right, one wanted the other one's wife. Wait, no, that's
that FLDUS.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Hold on. It seems like it got pretty dirty between
these two.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
I mean the big thing is is that at at
the very least, you know, not everyone wants to literally
see the world burn, and you know, make of that
what you will. But Governor Cox is one of these people.
You know what, I'm not even gonna call him governor.
I always call him Spencer just because you know that's like.

Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
You don't want to call him cock.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
No, because I mean, the most offensive thing you can
do to somebody with an official title like that is
just call him by their first name. So, but he,
I mean, he is just the perfect politician. He's whatever
he needs to be in whatever moment. And so that's
why I don't think like it even genuinely matters that

(01:21:25):
he's a member of the LDS Church. Like it doesn't matter.
He says he's a Republican, Like he's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Just Washington University for law school as well, right sir,
that's what Then boys are going to college. I think
these are a long term bloodline, cold operations.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
They are. They are, and his his family owns the
largest telecommunication company in the state.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
They literally have a monopoly on the entire communications in
the state. I mean that's like internet everything.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
They're the ones that have the contract act with the
n s A uh that brought the data center here.
I mean they're they're tied end they're you know, they're
that yeah, no, sh sh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Here's my first beef with him. He endorses Marco Rubio,
that's the muppet of all muppets.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
And then he endorses dil doo Ted Cruise. Dildo Ted Cruise.
I got a lot of say and I call him
dildo ted because he spent an inorderne amount of money
when he was the Slister General of the State of Texas.
I was living down there at the time, to prosecute
a lady for having a sex towards sales party. Aroun'd
like them toperware parties, but sex toys whatever. And he's
doing and again, you know, one one thing to said

(01:22:40):
about terroristing and citizens, but I was more, you know,
my dispute is more than money. He's a dude, waste
some millions of dollars prosecuted, pointless, pointless thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Yeah, he's done that a lot. I mean, he launched
a uh A lawsuit against TikTok because won't somebody please
think of the children? You know, And it's like, dude,
you have the n s A in your state, and
you're saying that the Chinese is stealing children's data, Like

(01:23:10):
the NSA is stealing all of our data, So shut
the hell up about that, Like you don't, you don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Ted's obviously a multi generational deep stater. His dad knew
Lee Harvey Oswald. He's down there on the street that's
now pamphlets, right, Oh yeah, for sure. And in fact,
not only on top of that, we got well, there's
a lot to be said about his wife. She's an
interesting character in her family. She's the Texan his wife,
I think her name is strange enough, I believe her.
It is also hiding no disrespect man, she's uh, she's uh.

(01:23:39):
These are not nice people, you know what I mean, right, muppets.
People think they're like, oh yeah, tell you know, take
Cruise saying the day mark. These people are muppets, do
they're They're not there because they're they've achieved, and they're
there because they're dumb and depraved.

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
Right right, Well they're m k altered from birth.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Oh yeah, I mean a good character for that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
That's that's where k Ultra comes from. Is all of
these you know, old bloodlined families. This is how they
raised their kids. And then mk Ultra came around because
they were trying to uh you know, put the science
behind it and be able to get it down literally
to a science, because I mean, bloods were raised all

(01:24:23):
the way back hundreds thousands of years even you know,
they like they are the absolute worst to their children
and they they literally raised sociopaths.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Like that's time and time again. Yeah, and with with
Ted here, they you know, we know that some of
the known knowns of some of the mk ultra stuff
as you're describing here, we know some of that went
to Canada. In fact, some of it went to Alberta,
where he, in fact, Old Ted grew up Old Bildo
Ted grew up in Alberta.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Right right, And I mean it's still there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
It never ended in Canada, just like it never ended here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Well, well that's the Mormon stronghold, right, Alberta, one of them.
One sure, sir, have you ever been to? Have you ever?
You ever heard of a town called Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
I used to terrorize it quite a bit in my
younger years. I was gotten a lot of drinking incidents.
I joined the Air Force at the age of seventeen,
and I gotten a lot of drinking incidents underage. And
you know, three or four couple of duy's, you know
that kind of the only you know one duives right.
But I would have refused to do any tests, you
know what I mean? That was, you know, And then
as a result of that, they like, let's lock you

(01:25:29):
up in front of this kid, diddling, cannibalistic, psychopathic serial
killer and see how you like that kid, And that's
what this is what happened there. But anyhow, I used
to so as a result, I used to drive to
Canada from Great Falls, Montana on my day's off. I mean,
my dude'es just to go party so we wouldn't get
any more troubles, you know. And uh let strangely enough,
I didn't realize it right right right off rip first

(01:25:51):
couple of trips. But Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada, is like the
Salt Lake City of It's just strip up fifteen from Salta,
you know, about ten hours, right, it's the Salt Lake
City of Canada. And you know, because I started wondering
why they weren't serving real beer and you know why
things were closing down at eleven o'clock. I mean, what's
going on here? They go it's all Mormon stuff and
we'll they go typical.

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
So yeah, it's a stronghold up there. Man, it's that
whole cord, that whole again, this is the nation. This
is what I mean by the name. It's a great segue.
This is what I mean by the Nation of Deseret.
It's not just Salt Lake City. It goes up that
whole corridor to the north and the whole corridor to
the south.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
Well, I mean, if you want my personal opinion of
why that is uh. And this this is not strictly
a Mormon thing per se, although I do think that
they're involved, although once again, you know, factions, it's not
strictly like oh LDS, so like everyone's involved, but some

(01:26:48):
factions are definitely using the corridor, especially the I fifteen
all the way up all the way down, they use
this corridor for human trafficking.

Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
And I just arrested somebody for those.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Right right, And that the thing is, I mean, well,
let's see the three big money makers or weapons, drugs,
and humans.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Right there you go, and you can only sell one
of those more than what you can sell the gun,
I guess more than once, but you can sell one
of those multiple times a day, right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
And it's typically these uh, you know, the the more
fundamentalist cults that are usually involved in the human trafficking
stuff because a lot of the kids that are that
are born are born without birth certificates, social Security numbers
and so and typically it's keys, right, exactly like that,

(01:27:48):
And so it's typically labor labor trafficking. But of course,
you know, the the women are sold off, you know, so,
but I mean that the bulk of it definitely is
the labor trafficking with the boy and I mean there's
there's I think I brought this up on the last
show we had together. Uh, there's a group of boys
here in Utah. They're called the Lost Boys, and they're

(01:28:11):
the boys that were discarded you know there their usage
is uh, you know, a labor vessel is done and uh,
they pissed off the church somehow, so they got kicked
out and now they have nobody and so they kind
of gathered together and they're called the Lost Boys. Really sad.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
To Montana. They have to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Get rid of the young boys because then they don't
have enough women. My my brother in law, my ex
brother in law. He is A's nephew and so this happens.

Speaker 5 (01:28:50):
He's in jail now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
But yeah, he's still from the right. So what's what
what what are your what was your take on all
witness and all that ship man?

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
You know, they're the only downfall for them as far
as why he fell is because he they still live
by the Order of Enoch and so they could it
was a money grab, that's all it was.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
I mean, they'd have left him alone. They don't care
about anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
How many how many wives did he have under the
age of sixteen.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
I mean two twelve year olds that were knocked up.
I know that for sure. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
wasn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
I don't think we know officially, like how many wives
he had, because there's a lot of stuff he wouldn't
admit to, and of course they're not going to talk.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
You know this this well, they didn't talk that day, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
So they had compounds in what northern northern Arizona or
southern I right, Arizona.

Speaker 5 (01:29:52):
Montana, Colorado, everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
The one they rated the city, Yeah, Texas is where
they would take the young boys usually to go, because
the compound in Texas is their zion, like it's it's there,
it's their locate, their Salt Lake City there.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
You can only go if you're invited. You can't just go, right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
So when the Feds raided this joint, and folks probably
saw images and videos of folks were walking out of
this facility. So none of those folks would talk. So
the FEDS ran that operation out of nearby Goodfellow Air
Force Base Letton, And behold, I had no idea this
was going on, obviously, but I was at a good
Fellow Air Force Base that when that when this popped off,
because I was on a site visit one of my

(01:30:35):
bases I worked for the head MP headquarters outfit out
of San Antonio and one of the twelve bases I
managed for the you know, the military police, equipment and manpower,
money and shit for twelve bases in the command, one
of which was a good fellow Air Force base. So
I go out there for you know, just my normal visit,
you know, quarterly visit type of deal. Now I go, hey,
the Feds are here. They're about to raid the local Mormons.

(01:30:56):
I said, excuse me, what's going on? But none of
them would talk. You know, none of those folks would talk.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Well, no, because if they talk, that's just as good
as going to hell. They're going to be exiled if
they talk, that's right. So and then if they're exiled,
they lose everything.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
And not just say.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
Because my brother in law was exiled and they went
after his family, he didn't see his kids for like
a decade pretty much. They relocated his wives and kids
before he even got home from Texas. He was sent
back to have a talk with the uppers and and
it was over such a minor thing. Then they did
it to his dad and his brother and all these people,

(01:31:41):
and they took all their wives and money and they
reassign them immediately. And his name is he was on Amazon. Yes,
he's well, no, he's he's let me think it's the
other big name Steed.

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
Yeah, he's a Steed.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
So for anyone who.

Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
Too easy, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
So here's the deal. Like I keep telling you all
that I grew up in the weirdest Mormon ward ever,
stand by that. We had. We had steeds. We had
here's a none. We see it repetively here in the
Kirk situation. Steals, we had steels. We had limans. Again,
we had limans. I had you know, I want to
fill lymons like distant cousins of that was again my
closest friend. And growing up in the church. He went

(01:32:27):
on a mission. I did not. I joined the Air
Force one on a different mission.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
So for anyone who doesn't know, FLDS is like not
the mainstream church. There there's a huge riff in between
both factions because you know, the FLDS believed that the
mainstream church has actually walked away from the Word of
God because of the polygamy thing. And so yeah, I
mean this, I think there is a lot more crossover,

(01:32:55):
mainstream crossover than people would like to admit. But at
least officially there is no like connection.

Speaker 18 (01:33:03):
And for the question out here about the wives, this
one officially officially And for the question, yeah, they they
can have more than one wife.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
Failds have many, many wives upwards of I think Jeff's
was like close to one hundred. And then no, the
women can only marry one husband. But if your husband
gets kicked out, your marriage is no longer valid. Therefore
you're assigned to a new husband immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Well, and it's it's weird how it works too, because
like the leadership gets to choose their wives. However, the
regular members, it's usually arranged marriages. So even if you
don't want them, right, So, even if you don't want
an extra wife, if the prophet tells you that you're
getting an extra wife, you're getting an extra wife, period.

Speaker 5 (01:33:49):
Yes, And if you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Don't get anywhere to argue with the Lord is the
lord prophet on earth?

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
Right, if you don't get three wives, you can't go
to heaven, to the top kingdom. And so if they
and I did interview one of Warren Jeff's ex wives
as well.

Speaker 5 (01:34:07):
She's yes, yeah, yeah, he did.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
No, man, that's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
And then they take sisters too often, pairs. The lady
I interviewed, she got out and the wife what the
other wife was his like her blood sister.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
And then this is also the strange part too. I
mean it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Stranger the Master, the Thomas Jefferson family. We'll get into
that in the moment and go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
But you know, there are people who like love this lifestyle.
There are people who want nothing more than this life.
But there are a lot of captives, meaning that there's
a lot of people that don't want this life and
they all stuck.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
She was drugged and kept against her will. This is
episode one, and she fought for her life. Brielle Decker.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Yeah, I'll have to check that out. That sounds great,
ran Away, Yeah, I mean it's it's hell for these people,
you know. And I mean what's crazy is I've talked to,
you know, friends of mine within the mainstream LDS church

(01:35:22):
that some of this happens within the mainstream church as well.
You know, some of the men treat their wives just
the same, and it's uh, well, I don't know, it's
it's tolerated because it's it's not really talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
It's the culture. It's it's very it's very much breaked in.
And if you can hold that thought for one moment,
place our R channel. I'm glad to see you back
and leave there, sir, And I'm glad to see you're
always still doing things. Is keeping it You're keeping it

(01:36:00):
got real if you will there and keeping it wrong
is what I mean. I mean in this individual, the
cia A I bought, seems to think that two different
independent staties by two different geologists spanning one hundred years apart,
one of which was the state geologists the state of Minnesota,
seems to indicate something that the Kensington runestone is fake.

(01:36:22):
I would say that individual, that bot that is, has
no idea how to read.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
That's interesting. I wonder how he came to that conclusion.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Yeah, well, probably like most things, applied no thought. And
you know there is this speaking of things. Mormon. I
follow a Mormon fell on the twixter and I do
appreciate his ancient alien cargo cult reporting on the Skinwalker
ranch business and making them look is he doesn't have
to make them look ridiculous. They are ridiculous. And Steve
Stephen green Street over there at the New York Post.

(01:36:53):
He's a former EXMO, he went on a mission and
whatnot as well. I think he's a graduate of UV.
He was the first person on Twister to see that.
I saw post the Patterson Gemlin footage of the character
running across the roof. Oh interesting, yeah, yeah, so he
he recently did the whole thing about how folks, you know,

(01:37:15):
kind of the NBC thought, right, how folks will have
an inn monologue. I'm like, I think I know one
of those non inner monologues are our channel.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
I looked into that not too long ago. It's something
I like to keep fresh in my mind. The the
stats and I think the last time I checked it
was something like sixty sixty five percent. And you know what,
it just makes a lot of sense I buy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
What I'm not buying is that Charlie Kirk got shot
at all and has these white sneakers right, And there's
also no one around him, has any blood. None of
that security team took any defensive posture, no one pulled
their fucking gun. Dude, I'll pull my gun on far less.
I'm just saying I.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Mean he got rid of his longtime security team earlier
this year, so I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
He replaced them with Mormons, right, he said.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Well, actually.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Even more seems to replace them with the process. So
his head of security worked for fourteen years for a
software company that is utilized in all process locations.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
So that's that's going to be a Mormon who's not
a Mormon.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
Because they're the same difference, right, you know, you guys
can look it up on the video he was saying
right before he said, I love Mormons, and you guys
need to get your mojo back, and uh, I don't
hate on Mormons. I'm not that kind of Christian. In fact,
half my team is Mormons. So and so is a Mormon,
and so he names them by name so and so.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
Charlie Kirk says this, yes, yes he could probably.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Yeah, I know he's the Mormons, which is kind of
odd because you know a lot of non Mormon Christians,
you know, a lot of ship so that is kind
of interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:39:04):
And then yeah, then he gets taken out right after that,
so it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Bringing I'm bringing this up here. Yeah, so Dan Flood,
somebody pointed out in the background, I'll go ahead sir.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Somebody pointed out in the chat uh and this this
is what I was referring to. Is Uh. He was
on Bill Maher's show and talked about like, if you
want good security, go with the Israelis.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Oh, I've seen that clip. I seen that clip. Well,
this kid's not Israeli and to the best of my knowledge,
not Mormon from my estimations and analysis. And I gave
him an ocular path down. But this Dan Flood guy
on their website listed link there. I'll put a link
to this twist on there. He uh worked for this
veterinary software company. He was their head you know, their
training consultant or whatever, and h r in their training team.

(01:39:52):
So hard to believe he doesn't know the process since
that's the you know, the recommended software at the process
veterinary locations. Yes, so why is the dude for fourteen
years doing that? They had a security for Turning Point USA.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Yeah, that's odd and he would be new security.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
And he's right there. He links on there for the website.
He's listened on their own website and not on the
same uh the Advisory Council where you'll find mikey Akino's
slabs to mind where buddy General Qan on General Paul Valet,
he's on there right by his counsel, but he's listed
on the staff. There had a security dan flood and uh,
you'll see him in the video. It's the dude doing
the weird arm stuff with the you know, the blue

(01:40:31):
shirt and the tank tyler or the short that's him.
That's him. And none of these folks have any blood
on them, you know. At the scene down there below
the witness statements we see from Phil Liman's buddy saying
he sloped forward in the chair. Again, this is a
Dan Rather moment. He never slept forward in the chair,
just like JFK's had never slept forward and went forward
in the Dan Dan Rather. I saw the video and

(01:40:52):
his head went violently forward, and we see Charlie Hurt
going back into the left comically, if you will, in
the satirical fashion to kise, and we see the JFK rifles.
It's the same damn script. And then but at no
point time that he slipped forward, so we see one
of their security guys jump over and tackle him and
put him into the ground.

Speaker 14 (01:41:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
I don't want to play the snuff film for it
but I'm just I'm just describing that is.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
Kind of an odd move that.

Speaker 7 (01:41:18):
On.

Speaker 5 (01:41:18):
I g I sent you that Mormon clip just so
you know, if you want to pull it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Yeah, I got thank you. I got stuck in at
Charlie kirk snuff film going back into the left.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
No, yeah, no, it wasn't that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
No, I get it, yep, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
I wasn't expecting either, you know what I mean. I
refuse to even look at the details for days after that.
I'm like, I'll let the dust settle because this is
and he you said the same thing to me, I
believe as well, like this is ridiculous. Let's let the
dust sedtle on my I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
Yeah, that's that's really interesting. And so this this is
another thing, and I think that's important to point out.
And I know I brought this up last show. There's
many people that will use the church as cover. Oh
for sure, they'll they'll use the blanket. I mean any organization.

(01:42:12):
This isn't like exclusive to the LDS Church. Right, But
now knowing that there's this process connection, the process love
using the blanket of the church, uh to be able
to hide their their abilities. So and that's that's what
I would mean by a Mormon who's not a Mormon.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
I like your brain holds that, sir. And when we
have a national security process Mormon intersection with Brent Scocroft,
who along with those Satanists fellas you're talking about before
there with Bowen, that crank, we have ham the Hambling's
founded Kannab Kanab canb I always pronounced right. But along

(01:42:52):
with the the ancestors of Scocroft and Scorecroft was a
national security advisor and but buddy to Henry Kissinger and
UH and national security advisor to three US presidents and
VP of Kissinger and associates, and in scow cross right
hand man JJ Brin, not me, I'm JJ Vance and
not the Vice President JJ Brien, a real spooky motherfucker

(01:43:14):
who I believe is still alive running a scientology colt
out of Oregon. That's a horse of a different color.
He was the assistant to Scowcroft and broke off and
started a neo process cult called Victorianism, which invaded Hollywood,
specifically Nickelodeon, and recruited Amanda Bindes, the actress. And I
asserted she's the head of that cult still today because

(01:43:35):
it is goddess worship, it's always a female Marian. The Grimston,
head of the Process, Height decided some stuff about the
goddess worship and within the Mothership that I can't recall,
but I'm sure she can provide us those details. Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
Well got the goddess worship in general with the Mother
in Heaven that they will not name. Right, who's more
important there than the one you can name or the
one you don't name?

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
I mean, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
So we see the alien stuff, the goddess stuff. We
see the ideological and philosophical over you know, overlapping, you know,
the white supremacy between the two organizations. They're a bunch
of Nazis and they literally are they and say that
without yeah, I mean literally right, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
They we can't like he said, look, it's just horses
of a different flavor. Yes, the regular Mormons don't know
anything about this stuff. But when we get to the
top elites, they they are all in this together with
the Catholics, with the process, with the scientology, with they're
all just slightly different shades of pink or great, right,
you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
And they all do spooky stuff they do, Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
I do want to take just a second to like
point out and this is my opinion. I view like
your average Mormons. So there's two different factions. In my opinion,
you have LDS and you have Mormons. Mormons typically are
going to be all of these different factions, the ones
doing the spooky things and stuff. In my opinion, the

(01:45:06):
LDS people are people that are you would never even know,
but they this is just their faith. It's just like
any other Christian and they're good people. And that's just
how it is. And whether you agree with you know,
the LDS church or not, it's you know, it's just
it is what it is, you know. So I do

(01:45:27):
view you know, your average Mormon or your average LDS person.
It's just like anyone else, you know, It's just that
they're LDS. And so I always kind of viewed it
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
I like Heidi's yes earlier spot. I like Heidie's references.
It's the porch Mormons.

Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
The porch Mormons, yeah, because they don't know. It's just
like the Catholics. I mean, they have all these different things.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
And then we've got Opus Stay and we've got you know,
the top of the top Vatican and in the Mormons
are the same way these regular people. Like if you
talk to my mother in law, who is still very
Mormon and very nice, she would pass out over knowing
half of this stuff. She she just is the nicest person, Like,
there's just no way, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Same with my mother, you know, she she is a devout,
devout Mormon. And I love my mom to death. That
the nicest lady you would ever meet. And it's just
her faith, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:46:20):
And you know, and why is it her faith?

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
Yeah? Well, and we we were raising it. That's why
it was my faith when I was younger and stuff.
And of course now I'm leaning definitely more towards like
the Orthodox Orthodox Christianity. That's just kind of my flavor
that speaks to me. Although I'm not an Orthodox at
least yet. I don't know where that will take me.
But you know, it's just uh yeah, I mean everyone I.

Speaker 5 (01:46:49):
Belong I'm sort of a heathen now, I belong to none.
I just believe in the Bible, right well.

Speaker 14 (01:46:54):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
Questions when you're in the Mothership, right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Uh, I mean yeah, but I mean some still do.
I mean, Mormons aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Ask a lot of questions, sir, And they did not
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Right, me too, But I mean so did I. And
but I used to work at one of the state
liquor stores here and there were Mormons all the time,
all the time. So even though they're not supposed to
do things, they still do.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Sure. So here's one question I asked. We had one
black family in my in my war growing up, we
had one Hawaiian family. They were part of the Hawaiian
royal family, so no one had there was no beasts there.
But the one black family. The guy, the father, he
stood in the back every Sunday, and I would ask
this is when I moved to Cincinnati, so this is
when I was like ten, you know, And I'd ask him, like,
what's this dode doing? Yeah? And I eventually had asked

(01:47:47):
to do like, hey, Bud, you know they got some
seats up there print you know. And I didn't realize
they didn't allow folks who weren't white any when he
wasn't white, was not allowed to get the priesthood until
nineteen seventy eight. So this dude had joined the church
that already shunned him, you know what I mean, yep,
and then decide to have a family, and I thought
that was a weird growing you know. No, looking back,
I'm like, that's a weird dynamic, you know, having my

(01:48:08):
own family, Like, how did that do to have a decision.
I was like, I'm going to join this church who
seemingly hates me because I'm Black, and then have a
family to raise in it, you know. I mean again,
everyone was nice to them for most, you know, forward interactions.
There was a little bit of secret racism kind of
bounced around the whole environment. That's pretty obvious. But if
you looked at it, But isn't it isn't it strange
that that was kind of a thing, you know that

(01:48:30):
you know that until nineteen seventy eight and they're pretty
openly racist.

Speaker 3 (01:48:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean the belief, you know, is that
there was the what the skin of Cain? I think, uh, no, worse,
this is worse. So the cane curse is brown certain
brown people.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
But the other curse for black people specifically is the
war in heaven and that black people didn't choose which
side to go on, so they became fence sitters. And
many of my grandparents use that term clear intel. I
can't remember, like like in the nineties, pretty much right,
and they would say things like you don't want to
marry a fence sitter, right, And so when Lucifer fell

(01:49:15):
and the angels fell with him that were on his side,
these people that sat on the fence became black and
cursed with the skin of blackness, right right, Yi yeah,
Ham yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
So yeah yeah. And this is kind of like where
the mainstream church like splits off, because there are also
factions that still hold on to this as well. Oh,
LDS holds onto this. Yeah yeah, So I mean there
when I say that there's factions, like, there are probably

(01:49:48):
hundreds at this point. You know, it is all over
the place. So even though like we say like LDS
or Mormon or whatever, like it's it's just kind of
hard to like nail down exactly who we're talking about
because there's just so many.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
Well, I have a good idea of who we're talking about,
and that's Phil Lyman, sir. He's definitely part of one faction.
I got another clipper for on.

Speaker 9 (01:50:10):
Her fast forward to me looking into the witness list,
and obviously we spoke about this Tiffany Peterson Barker that
very weird clip of her with her nieces at like
four am in the morning speaking on Good Morning America,
and her energy was just weird to me. I thought
her being there was weird. Obviously, this is my podcast,
I can say whatever I want. We reached out to her,

(01:50:32):
and then she gave us, you know, a ton of information,
but never actually presented to us. She never sent me
directly any footage that could verify that she was there
when Charlie Kirk got shot, okay, and.

Speaker 17 (01:50:49):
She was a bit upset that I didn't clarify that.

Speaker 9 (01:50:51):
I thought it was weird that she wouldn't just text
me the footage because it didn't allow me to confirm
that she.

Speaker 17 (01:50:56):
Was where she said she was. That's what metadata is for.

Speaker 9 (01:50:59):
Metadada will say here's where you were at what time,
and this is this person's iPhone. So I wasn't gonna
lie to my audience. I just told you, guys, hey,
you can check her out on her Instagram. Here's her excuse.
She says that this is why her nieces said that,
and we sort of moved on, right. But then then
I learned from Nick that the photo of the person

(01:51:21):
who was wearing that black suit in dark sunglasses had
come from Tiffany Barker's mother.

Speaker 17 (01:51:26):
I was like, well, that's weird whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:51:30):
And then you'll recall we learned from Tiffany when I
was trying to figure out how did you get this
hit on Good Morning America, Like did you share something
that would have had them reach out?

Speaker 17 (01:51:40):
Well, then I told you. She told us.

Speaker 9 (01:51:42):
Actually Phil Lyman is the person that put me on
Good Morning America. My sister ran with him as lieutenant governor.
And I was like, oh, okay, so Phil Lymon got
you that that position on Good Morning America.

Speaker 13 (01:51:55):
You had a.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Keeps coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
Phil keeps coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I don't trust the interviews, the witness statements. We haven't
even gotten his eye witness statements. That gets real sketchy.

Speaker 5 (01:52:08):
She's a Jesuit train though I don't know about well, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Looking at factions, right, So she's she keeps on using
the stores from Spencer Cox's staff. This guy who is
suing him, whose name is Nick and who who homeboy?
Phil Lyman has been putting on blasts every chance he
gets with his real name, I forget right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Well, and that's kind of kind of a whole just
weird situation, just like how they're all tied together. And
then how Candace is bringing all of them together and
tying them in super weird.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Yeah, I don't trust psychodrama playing out across some sort
of psychological operations on top of psychological operations or it's
another right, you didn't die that day at least.

Speaker 18 (01:52:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
See, I do think that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
You heard about the Ballhalla and the fall Hall of
CIA witness protection program, right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
I've seen some stuff about the what you got? Can
you refresh my brain?

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
Yeah, it's just uh it is.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
It was on the Tyler Kids screen the picture of
the Ya Valhalla and then.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
That's where it's New Zealand, right, which is a.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Witness protection program, And then he says I'll see you
in Valhalla, and I was like, okay, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
What else is interesting is Eric Kirk's grandfather was part
of a Masonic lodge and Viking club and I think Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Strangely enough, huh a lot of Kesha, didn't they.

Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
Well that one is really really weird. So I do
have the info on that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Well, dude, yeah, well that dude my mate, real quick, ma'am.
That dude he had some Valhalla stuff in his obituary
and uh yeah, the Cincinnati the King of Sweden.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
Yes, he was in the Independent Order of Vikings for
two Ernal Benefit society founded by the Swedish Americans in
eighteen ninety. It uses rituals and symbolism and ceremonial purposes
that are part of esoteric tradition. So this is different
than Odd Fellows or Masons. And they are ceremonial.

Speaker 5 (01:54:19):
And they keep saying not a cult, and I'm like, yes,
you are a cult. They're like esoteric, not a cult,
all these other things.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
Oh please, okay, Oh what's that, sir? Just splitting hairs,
you know, and oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Well they have all these ethnic organizations like this. I'm
familiar with one called the Ancient Order of Iberia. Yes, right,
And there's disregard to Hibernia. I'm I'm a I'm a
poor irishman here. I can't even pronounce the islands Ancient Ibernia.
And the leader of which is who his father was

(01:54:58):
the grand wizard of their little local chapter from Cincinnati.
Their's dude's son died a very mysterious death. I'll just
leave it. That's a horse of a different color and
a tapic for a different day. But I was tangentially
involved in some investigatory aspects in the aftermath set activities.
He didn't die my suicide, I'll tell you that much,
even though the locals said suicide.

Speaker 4 (01:55:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:55:19):
Well, and then this takes place in Orum.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
And the surname Orum is in Old English or Germanic
names linked to meaning serpent or dragon in Old Norse.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
M did the lineman's found or is this is there?

Speaker 5 (01:55:34):
I'll look that one up.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
So there there was a Fort Utah that was down
in that kind of area. I know that they were
one of the main families in Fort Utah. I don't
know if you could technically say that they had founded Orum,
but if if if you can't, it's not far off,

(01:55:58):
if that makes sense. So, I mean they're right there
in the thick of it, just like a lot of
other people, you know. So they made me laugh, right definitely,
kind of like, uh, they were one of the higher
up families when all of the Mormons out here, you know,
moved out here, so they were among.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
I do want to mention one more thing about this
special Viking colt whatever it is, not esoteric, not a
cult cult. They buy all of their members life insurance.
How can we say the beginning of enzign peaks.

Speaker 5 (01:56:37):
I had to. It's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
I don't know how much about Chicago.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
In Chicago as what's that man started in Chicago?

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
Really, that's where the France Fees are from. So it
looks like the fs and the Kirks may go back
longer than just Erica and Chuck here.

Speaker 3 (01:56:57):
So Phil Lyman was born in Blanding, Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Born in Blanding's what's Blanding.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
I don't know that town Wyoming?

Speaker 5 (01:57:05):
Mm hmm, that's Wyoming, yes, but real close, just a
hop skipping Blanding Wyoming. Right, I'll google it, but I'm eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
I'm not sure. No, it's Samung County, Man Samueng County.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
Well, there is a Blanding.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
It was the two utes. So if it's insane, named
after Nelly Grayson Lyman, who wife of settler Joseph Lyman.

Speaker 15 (01:57:34):
So yeah, if he's inland well yeah, so we don't
know which blanding. Yeah, so if he is in Blanding, Utah,
I mean it makes a lot of sense, but that
is out in the No.

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
No, no, I'm not saying it doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
I'm what I'm saying is his ancestors settled it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
Right, but can somebody confirm that that's where he was born?

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Oh, I can confirm that what I looked up as parents,
I've looked up. I've done a whole lot inter pat down, sir.
It is Blanding, Utah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
So that's out.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
I'm not sure, man, but this is where Phil Lemon's from.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
So that's out in the middle of nowhere. San Juan
County is you know, southwest, right southeast, I'm sorry, right, Yeah,
so that bottom corner, southeast corner, that's really Cannob's a
little bit closer to the southwest. Yeah, it's so Canob

(01:58:33):
is in that So you're going it's probably a little
bit further than that. But so you've got those three
counties right on the bottom right, and you've got one
in the the southwest. We're looking at San Juan, which
is in the southeast.

Speaker 5 (01:58:51):
Confirmed it is Utah as well.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
Let's take let's take a gorgeous tower to the southern
part of Utah here where you can't go from one spot.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
And yeah, like I said, it's it's in that middle county.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
County by the roadways.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Mm hmm, Right, that's what you've got to go around, really,
mm hmm. Yeah, it's it's not in San San Juan County.
But yeah, San Juan County is actually one of the
poorest counties in the state. Lots of natives.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
No, oh ship, yes it says it is. Yeah, it
says he was the San Juan County commissioner.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
You tell me, folks, you're all the desert natives. I've
only been there a couple.

Speaker 5 (01:59:38):
I'm reading it. I'm just reading it because I had
to look it up. Phil was the area of the state.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
It's very gorgeous down there. I've I've been down to the.

Speaker 5 (01:59:47):
And grew up. Yeah, it says he grew up in
San Juan County in Blanding.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Okay, very very gorgeous country down there. I'm not sure
about the people down there. They all seem but strange.

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
Well, this is where we get into the breakoff of
the Satanic ld S Church. They go southern. Oh yes,
of course, and yet big, big.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Yes it all that whole cult focus around southern. You
tell what to do up in Utah County. Then when
David leave it where Utah Valley University is strangely enough.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
But he ended up in Southern Canal is in Kane County.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
But he grew up count Oh how did this go
from the south and and end up including David leave
It the prosecuting attorney for the county of Utah County
where this Kirk event happened. Right, That's that's four that's
four hours north.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
Mhm, A little a little bit longer, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Okay, Well, my estimations of your states are a way off,
so I will I will defer to you on that one.

Speaker 3 (02:00:52):
Well, I mean you're not You're not too far off.
But yeah, I mean so Saint George from like where
I am is like six hours so I'm about an
hour away from Uvu.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
Okay. So when we're looking at Kannab, But how am
I saying it again? Cannab. We're looking at Kannab, we
see that time of the process aka the Best Friend's
Animal Society. And when I say the process, this is
the Utah State Business Secretary of State Business Registry. We

(02:01:26):
can see that The Best Friends Animal Society was founded
as a domestic corporation on June the Summers System nineteen
sixty eight. That was the invasion of the process as
a domestic nonprofit corporation. A bunch of muppets and it's
still active today because under the name, so they just
changed the name on the flag on the sign, it's

(02:01:47):
still the same corporation, yep. And we see the evidence
of that here. But because you know, Netflix, Josh Steman,
a bunch of other you know, Nazi stateanis propagandas all
want to say, oh, well the process is planted in
nineteen seventy four.

Speaker 4 (02:02:00):
Well, just so you know, they named it under the
Wilderness Society here in the county we were talking about
because I just happened to still be on this page
and they are talking all about your boy Lineman being
on the board and chairman of these these what is
this situations?

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
So what's them? Yeah, it's it's I've never heard of that.

Speaker 5 (02:02:25):
Yeah, so says, uh, he was over he was over this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
So let's uh you let me bring that up here
real quick. Uh, let's uh matter for a second. How
is it this operation has been going on in southern
Utah since nineteen sixty eight and no one talked about
it until the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
The first reference people over get they get silenced.

Speaker 2 (02:02:51):
Well, that's what I'm saying is this is this all
wrapped up in the same matters as you're describing with this, David,
leave it to the hamblings, David.

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
Let's not forget about David Levitt who said, when no
one asked, no one asked, I'm not a cannibal.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
Me and wife politician to schedule a press conference. Let
everybody know, just get on the table that he does
not little kids and he does not eat them. You
just want to let you want to let folks know
that sometimes, Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's obviously am
up at world. But how does how does mupp World
up north and Utah to you? Again, he's obviously part
of the same cult business down there. And what is

(02:03:30):
that the epiicenter down there? Has it always been going
on now? Because again no one talks. Everyone talks about
the process of New Orleans and the process here in
the processes they according to all documents, they registered in
the state of Utah has a domestic corporation on June
twenty first, nineteen sixty eight. And in that corporate document
it says that they report to an organization called the

(02:03:50):
Quorum of the seventy. They don't identify the Quarmer of
the seventies, so thus by default is it the seventy
or seventy. The only other quarm of the seventy man
in the city of Utah is in fact from others.
I'm saying we all understand their secret organizations like the
corn of the fifty, but I'm saying documented corporate entities
within the state of the registered as a domestic corporation.

(02:04:11):
Meaning if you don't, if you don't identify your own
equipmate records, you're deferring this within the state that's registered.
This is the legal understanding. I'm not I'm not attorney,
most not the vice president, but my understanding is if
you don't identify the first to an organization registered within
the state as a domestic corporation, they're therefore it would
defer to the com of a seventy for the mothership.

(02:04:31):
So it seems like the process first nineteen sixty eight,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:04:37):
Right right? And I sent you that will anything kind
of process, you know, So I don't know, Well, what
does that that that sixty eight, I mean, that's kind
of the height of the process, right, that's when there's

(02:04:57):
they're still out public.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
Oh well, I mean they've never they didn't really go
non public until about nineteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
Four, right, but I mean so sixty eight, this is
when they're out walking around California and they're weird capes on.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
TV, they're doing magazines, newspapers. They're on the whole campaign
right well, and best friends in the college campuses.

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Best best friends is huge out here, Like, I mean,
they're they're one of the only no kill shelters, which
is crazy to me that they're one of the only
no no kill animal shelters. And I mean also they
are assholes.

Speaker 2 (02:05:39):
So they bring in them about one hundred and fifty
million dollars a year. They run more electricity than a
small city. According to it, they do nearly odds, Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
They do. And there's a lot of strange happenings in
that town. It's it's a weird town. You go through
there and it's like you're being watched the entire time
you're there, regardless the government.

Speaker 4 (02:06:03):
They don't they don't make you know. If you ever
go down to the FLDS they have they had that.
I'm assuming they still have their own shareff like people,
cops everything. They will chase you out of there with
like in a high speed chase with guns.

Speaker 2 (02:06:18):
Oh yeah, well, it seems like it's what's known as
Little Hollywood. So they actually got the Process got that
from from Disney some of their property. Jack Nicholson had
a little piece of some of the action over there too.
It seems the last film that was filmed there was
The Outlaw Josie Wales before the Process got their hands
on it. That was nineteen seventy six, I believe. And
so you see, you have this weird machination of this

(02:06:40):
obvious cold activity, you know, ritualistic, satanic business. You got
the Mothership, you got the Hollywood business. So that's what
I'm saying. If the Process has been you know, the
puppeteers of the Process has been the mothership of the
corn of the seventies since nineteen sixty eight, we now
have context of what what the fuck's going on a
lot of these things, right right exactly? I mean, because

(02:07:02):
again someone's pulling the strings on this, you know, you know,
on its face, I think it's you can circumstantial argument.
You're you know, someone signed off one within the mother ship,
right right.

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
They've had major complaints again against him for sexual misconduct
and missage and misogynistic.

Speaker 5 (02:07:22):
I can't say that damn word.

Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:07:25):
Yes, unprofessional conduct.

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
I forgot about this.

Speaker 3 (02:07:30):
In Utah.

Speaker 5 (02:07:32):
That's Charlie Kirk talk about the Mormons.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
Yeah, so before we play this one, in your next one,
there was I forgot there was another Mormon fella that
jumped up and immediately after the shooting, right, and he's like, oh,
and saying a bunch of wild stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:07:44):
He's he's a loophole, that's wild. He he he's a
whole show. This guy.

Speaker 4 (02:07:53):
Oh yes, he's been in all kinds of different setups,
including the Boston bombings.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
You're talking about George z In No, no, ma'am, No,
I'm talking about Talker. There was a Mormon TikToker, he guys,
but like you know, a Hawaiian Mormon TikToker or something
like that. He jumped up and started yelling a bunch
of crazy stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
I know what you're talking I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:08:14):
George Zen Though, You're right, he's the forest gump, a
pair of politics. And he worked at a local Mormon
thrift shop. And by the way, if you went on
Phil Lymon's website, he wrote a recommendation and were for
Phil Lymon as a constituent on his website, figure and anyone.

Speaker 3 (02:08:32):
I mean, he did also write one for Cox as well,
but that's even so, any anyone who is interested. I
do have a copy of that now deleted podcast of
George Zen. Anyone that wants to take a listen to that,
I'll gladly send them the link. Or you guys can
find it on my telegram. It's just right there, right

(02:08:53):
in my main channel. So anyone that wants to check
that out. It's about an hour long and it's George
Zen actually being interviewed. I was able to snag a
copy of that, So it's weird. It's really weird.

Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
Hi, this is great stuff. Now, that's great stuff. If
you can send me that, like a link to it,
I'll put in the show notes to sir, Hi is
great stuff. I haven't seen this clip. So Andrew and
TERRELLI says there're Mormons on his team? Is that Andrew
Claven his his co host.

Speaker 5 (02:09:20):
He'll even say it. I think he says it live
on this I'm pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:09:23):
Sure he says, Andrew, get into that more because that'd
be interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:09:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's weird. This has been written.

Speaker 4 (02:09:30):
I held my tongue but this was the first thing
I saw, and I thought, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (02:09:36):
Yeah, and there is half a seam as Mormon. He
starts naming the couple, says Terrell and Andrew. But Andrew's
co host and the dude who's making a lot of
these statements, you know against you know, in opposition to
to Kaneas's statements.

Speaker 4 (02:09:49):
Yeah, when you play it, it will have the words
and everything so people can see it. But it's only
a couple seconds long. But I think it's worth playing
because people people immediately forgot, like nobody, you remembered this nobody?

Speaker 5 (02:10:01):
And I was like, what the heck? He's in Utah
talking about Mormons and then gets smirked.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
What I've been following a lot of the ship, I ain't.
I hadn't seen that clips. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (02:10:10):
I don't think i've even seen that. That's wild.

Speaker 5 (02:10:13):
You want are you gonna play it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
Oh do you want me to play it again?

Speaker 5 (02:10:18):
Yeah? Yeah, real quick?

Speaker 2 (02:10:19):
Yeah I can do that boom you have through around
the world more materials and more than Yeah, how about that?

Speaker 5 (02:10:47):
It's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:10:48):
I bet that's Andrew Claven is his co host and
associated there like his number two because we keep seeing
a bunch of number twos. You know, Elon Musk has
got his little pocket Mormon, and you know everybody, Howard
Hughes obviously had his little pocket Mormons, the gays.

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
But I mean, I mean this, this makes sense though,
because it's kind of like Mormons like to position themselves
in in these positions.

Speaker 2 (02:11:12):
Inside cash hotel.

Speaker 4 (02:11:17):
As soon as I saw As soon as I saw it,
and he's talking about Mormons, what comes to my mind?

Speaker 5 (02:11:21):
C I A, you're just talking about the Feds.

Speaker 2 (02:11:24):
Man at the look at the Mormons stink on this situation.
It's everywhere, right.

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):
Well, I honestly I thought it was kind of weird
that so he was making two stops here in Utah,
which was super strange because his very first stop was
at U v U and then he was leaving going
to Colorado doing like two or three more or like
how many ever stops, and then he was coming back
to go to the c i A headquarters here in Utah,

(02:11:53):
which is the u of U University.

Speaker 5 (02:11:57):
So you know, right yeah, And it's honestly his wife's.

Speaker 3 (02:12:04):
Mom, bro, like I just write, mind you that the
you of you did some experiments, uh back in the
early two thousands, they actually did some experiments on radio
waves to figure out how to liquefy your organs with
a directed energy weapon. I've got those documents, which are wild.

Speaker 4 (02:12:30):
There is a lot on that BLM and yeah, is
a bunch on that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
It's on my I mean on above the skull and
bones stuff that I pointed out to me on Utah
State University.

Speaker 5 (02:12:45):
I have to tell you something about that, not not
not just Alan Key.

Speaker 4 (02:12:50):
No, there's something at Chicago University that ended after but
he but the profit the prophet Now, it was there
when he was in called al and Serpent and it's
so secretive. Yes, let me, I'll find that. It's so
secretive that of course they don't have the names. But
he was there when it was happening and it was

(02:13:11):
still active and they have tried to bury it. And
it looks so close to Alan keyes stuff that it
is wild. But it is called Alan Serpent Society, and
of course it's just Oh they're just a friendly what everybody?

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
I think that's what Liman and Spencer Cox, that's your
little pet names for each other.

Speaker 4 (02:13:32):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Wait till you see
the logo. Wait till you'll laugh even harder. It's a
circle with.

Speaker 3 (02:13:40):
The al in the middle, and you've got to be kid.

Speaker 2 (02:13:43):
We are having this conversation Heidi and Jacob Ja thank
you all both again for joining me here tonight. To
gild GCD no webs, thank you all for joining us
as well. To gil GCD. We're currently able to get
a little GCD courtesy of DARPA in the university in
Utah State University where they developed the web.

Speaker 3 (02:14:03):
On one of four original nodes of the One.

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
Of the people that wrote the software, her daughter and
her husband was ahead of DARPA, and her daughter is
somehow tangentially associated in a weird capacity with the four murders.

Speaker 3 (02:14:20):
Oh well, and think about this. I mean Utah was
the connection place of the Transcontinental Railroad.

Speaker 2 (02:14:27):
We were the connection what they were that.

Speaker 5 (02:14:33):
The railroad is a rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 (02:14:36):
Yes, it is, especially here in Utah. It is wild
major hub and I mean there there's several times throughout
history that Utah has been one of the connection points
to the major technological innovations of the world, including AI AI.
There's all sorts of things going on here with it,

(02:14:58):
and it seems like we always end up being some
form of Pandora's Box. You know that's the state. I
think that's the best way to explain it is Pandora's Box.

Speaker 5 (02:15:10):
Well, we have our own area fifteen one.

Speaker 4 (02:15:13):
Yeah, and we have you know, bombs testing, We've got
the down windows, we've it's a mess.

Speaker 18 (02:15:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
If by Pandora's Box you mean phil Lymon's box, I
think that's what we'recruiting going with.

Speaker 19 (02:15:26):
I do want to linger on a moment for what
you just told us, and I'm going to ask the
team to pull back up that surveillance footage that we've
gotten from TMZ, from those neighborhood cameras. You said that
in that footage is your driveway and you parked there
at eleven thirty am. We know this footage that you're
looking at was taken at eleven forty nine am. So
so you would have been on that street, that driveway

(02:15:48):
nineteenth across right across.

Speaker 6 (02:15:52):
Yeah, it's not my driveway, it's my aunt's driveway. Parking
lot was very full. He's walking, he's walking in front
of my ant's house there right now, and my cousin's
house is the driveway that is taking that vote photo
and my CRV, the gray CRV and the distance there
is that is my car. I parked there probably ten
minutes before he walked by, and I had not seen

(02:16:12):
this footage till just now, and I'm it just keeps
so many things that keep linking up. It's really astonishing
to me. And then then we went back to this
house afterwards they thought they had the shooter. So I
took a friend of mine and we went back to
my aunt's house and well, we'll just hang out here
for a while, uh and uh and prolong, the people

(02:16:34):
were coming in the backyard. As you saw, she had
the footage.

Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
So there's that Team's Z footage you're referencing before. And
I like his deflection. She's like, oh, it's not my
house and my aunt house. Well, he didn't answer the question.
He's just deflected.

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
Well, and what are the odds that that's the street
that Tyler would walk down?

Speaker 2 (02:16:51):
Like, you know, what are the odds that the TMC
got that too for anyone else? And that they cut
out the portion that him. Boy later talks on infob
Warre saying well, there's a lady with him, why would
you provide some other what would you why would you
edit it out, Phil.

Speaker 4 (02:17:05):
Right, I want to know if there's proof of life
of this kid, since I don't know when, Like, that's
what I.

Speaker 15 (02:17:11):
Want to know.

Speaker 2 (02:17:11):
I want to know that this isn't one of our
R channels of C I A C I A A
I bots, because I don't know that Tyler Robinson existed
as a human being in a in a ural capacity
outside of like you know, digital pictures and papers.

Speaker 3 (02:17:26):
Right, you know, well, you know, if somebody is in jail,
you know, still on suicide watch at least officially, so
that means his mind is going to mush sleep deprivation,
you know, sensory deprivation. I mean it's it's literal, you know,

(02:17:47):
old school, and.

Speaker 2 (02:17:49):
It's fucking uh yeah, dude, it's going time of bay shit.

Speaker 3 (02:17:52):
Dude, right, And I mean he's going to be he's
going to be in County jail.

Speaker 5 (02:17:59):
What they're doing, yeah, they're Oh.

Speaker 4 (02:18:04):
I was just saying, they're probably like doing all kinds
of sounds like they can make you psychotic, Like this
is simple, you know, well, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:18:12):
It's course twenty four to seven. I'll drive you real notes.

Speaker 3 (02:18:18):
Utah County Jail is one of a very well known
MK ultra location. I mean same same with the Utah
State Prison, both old and new. So I mean it's
if if he is there, if that's who he is,
which I mean at least until we have some you know,
other evidence, otherwise you know I'm him.

Speaker 2 (02:18:55):
So my point about all of the Tyler Robinson businesses again,
you know, let's let's ruminate on some these matters regarding
court procedures, due process, you know, matters of liberty, the
US Constitution in America. We are we're told, amongst all
these other nonsense, we're just on the court proceedings, just specifically,
they show us the corpus sceeds of a judge. They
won't show us him. We get some very uh and

(02:19:17):
I wouldn't say it's completely granty, but it ain't a
high definition mug shot. Let's be honest about that situation.
Wearing a suicide vest. We're told he's on suicide watch.
So we're paying these narratives, we're seeing no proof. We're
giving laser tag ted levels of evidence. And now they
may have shot ted twice. It's undetermined. At this point.
Sally will never know Ted passed, not from poisoning. That's

(02:19:38):
what Knight of Malta told us that. But what I'm
getting at here is we don't you know, this is
a level of evidence. I just want to see some evidence, right,
And when we're seeing the prosecute, now we see the
States allowed to pick his attorney.

Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
Yeah, I mean allegedly allegedly he needed a public defender.

Speaker 2 (02:19:58):
Yeah, but guy running for Utah County District Attorneys, sir
is picking his attorney, right.

Speaker 5 (02:20:04):
I don't know, I mean sounds like sir hand to me.
That's what?

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
Right? Like what what are And again, how far is
it separated from Dave the David Leavid I don't need
kids situation in the same county he went to Scotland. Yeah,
kids there, right.

Speaker 3 (02:20:21):
Him and his wife always wanted to, uh you know,
buy a castle and renovate it so they have their
own HG TV thing going on. This is actually really yeah,
but I mean he still has his family here. His
family is all over the place, and uh, it is
kind of interesting. Like I said, we didn't get a
purp walk from Tyler Robinson. Although the next court appearance,

(02:20:45):
which is supposed to be at the end of November,
I think is supposed to be his first in person,
so we'll see exactly what he looks like. My guess
is he's going to be something looking like James Holmes
and how he looks buying it appearances.

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
So, I mean, you are correct there, that is the
scheduled plan. I'm just not I believe it when I
see it.

Speaker 3 (02:21:07):
Right, I mean, so here is one thing his his
public defender is is a woman that I have met before.

Speaker 2 (02:21:18):
Through off the case. Is she what I'm saying that
they they introduced this whole new thing. They're like, hey,
we can do this because it's Utah, it's we can
now have this guy who's running for county prosecutor. He's
not the county prosecutor. Yeah, but he may as well
be because he's you know, it's not he's being think
he's being challenged like he's challenges in the race and

(02:21:39):
he right right, and he's now the defense attorney. Could
be wrong. Let me let me look this up. I
could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:21:50):
He did have.

Speaker 2 (02:21:54):
Real quick No, it's a charticle.

Speaker 8 (02:22:13):
But thanks for nonison.

Speaker 2 (02:22:24):
So what are you saying, sir, I'm gonna look up
these details.

Speaker 5 (02:22:26):
You all in the chat he says, you're right. Uncle
Ted says you're correct.

Speaker 2 (02:22:31):
JJ oh nice. So what are you saying there, Jacob.
You know that Fris attorney. I heard you talking about that.
I'm already dead, sir.

Speaker 3 (02:22:39):
There was three defense attorneys that he got appointed to,
so you know, I hadn't heard anything about the one Naster.

Speaker 2 (02:22:50):
Yes, yeah, I heard you talking on already that about
that one.

Speaker 3 (02:22:54):
Yeah. So I mean, so if if she's out, that
is incredible because she is actually somebody that I was
actually impressed that she was. She actually took the case
because she is like a she She's a lawyer that

(02:23:15):
was going to represent a case that was going to
deal with me and my family. So I mean she's
somebody that I would have trusted, you know, with a
case dealing with me and my family, and so I
was incredibly impressed that she was, you know, appointed to this.
If she's off, then I mean it is one hundred
percent set in stone, spooky glowy shits going period.

Speaker 2 (02:23:37):
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Thank you, sir.
When you start full with due process rights, you know.
And another guy that they got, Michael Bert, He's he's
an interesting character, right yeah, dude. Again, So it's the totality,
it's the sequences in chronology of these events. It's the
phil Lyman and time and time again, the due process rights.

(02:23:59):
It's the lack of evidence. It's the laser tag ted
level of evidence that the concerned me on these It's again,
Charlie Kirk did not get shot. There's no evidence of
in that video and the snuff film. We did not
see it. That's an exit wound of anything, and there
was no entrance wound. You know. Again, I was willing
to believe possibly a deflection because you see a bunch
of action on the shirt Alex A squib to me,

(02:24:19):
you know what I mean, the squib, the action of
the squib on the shirt. It's not a gunshot wound. Again,
that would be an exit wound. But again in any
thirty odd six and again there ain't no blood, you know,
not even in the aftermath and on the people. No
one took a defensive posture. You know what abnormal that
is for especially a high security team. Did not take
a No one took it. One guy didn't take a

(02:24:40):
defensive posture. Right now, dude, I'll pull my gun out
real fast. Do you mean you don't got to shoot nobody?
I'll pull my gun out real quick.

Speaker 3 (02:24:47):
Dude right right, And did anyone else notice the timing
of the audience because you hear the shot go off right,
and then it takes a second for the whole audience
to drop. And I just thought that was weird because
like if you watch any other shooting video, like people
drop immediately, right, but it literally like that, you hear,

(02:25:11):
you hear the shot, and then it's it's a noticeable
time where everyone just sits there, not moving and then
they drop. Like I just thought that was weird that we.

Speaker 2 (02:25:24):
Also don't see hundreds of high definition videos or evidence
of the event. We get a couple of Patterson Gamlin
footage from the FBI and another footage from the alleged spectators.
This guy has the best footage. He was live streaming.
His son goes there. He's a descendant of General Joseph Bartholomute.
You ain't got to take my word for it. I

(02:25:46):
don't like to get into these subjects on the show
because it's your personal life in the personal business. But
you have publicly told us that you were born and
raised as a Mormon, not Jewish, as people have accused
you of being. Right, Yeah, Barth, all of you were.

Speaker 3 (02:26:02):
Of the English descent.

Speaker 10 (02:26:05):
Is it my understanding? My mom's really big into the
the genealogy, so I'm sure I could get a more
solid answer on that question. But uh, there's a General
George Bartholomew, I think we are. There's a Joseph Parkhmers.
We're chased back to back in Massachusetts.

Speaker 2 (02:26:22):
Well, he's slightly right. His forefathers General Joseph barth Olme.
You're got mixed up. His father was the other one,
Guy Sore. Oh weird. Society of the Cincinnati Huh, typical.

Speaker 5 (02:26:33):
From Topsfield.

Speaker 2 (02:26:35):
Yeah, so he has a lot of descendants in the
in the Mormons of it mentions that down here. Uh
they joined during the naveo portions. Yeah, it mentioned it
mentions He's got here we go. His descendants are now
living throughout the United States. His daughter Martha and several
of his grandchildren were some of the earliest converts to Mormonism.

Speaker 3 (02:26:59):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:27:01):
Yeah again, Society Cincinnati Business, we got Kirk connections to that,
his wife's connections. They got the only person that has
Why did Turning Point USA not live staved live stream
every event? Right?

Speaker 3 (02:27:17):
I mean so I have heard supposedly that it was
being live streamed. You know, people from tp U s
A have said that it was being live stream but
not roof of that. So, you know, I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:27:36):
What are your thoughts. I know, the the ongoing Society
Cincinnati business because again it seems like one of these
factions that we're identifying here is a Again, if the
society is we've documented you and I have the Society
being an all shoot I'm sorry, Mormonism being an off
shoot society including Jesse Smith and a lot of the
other founding folks like you know, General Bartholomew and Gang

(02:27:57):
uh we were being this play out. Now, is this
a faction within the society, you know, regular society and
then this Mormon offshoot and then are there other offshoots
within that umbrella within the Mormon offshoot? Right? What are
your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (02:28:13):
I mean, there's so many offshoots in general, but the
number one, the number one is the top who's running
all the money and the Satana Gueldeas Church, which people
don't know about. So I mean we do, but there's
not a lot of exposure on that and they'll just
say you're crazy. And every time I see it, going
back to Massachusetts, where we know that Joseph Smith Sr.

(02:28:37):
Was from and his father was from in that area
of Topsfield. It is well documented, and they were no
dumb farmers.

Speaker 5 (02:28:45):
They were selectmen.

Speaker 4 (02:28:47):
And Captain Samuel Smith, I'm sure probably knew this guy.
I'm gonna try and find out.

Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
So what you're saying is this is a dispute and
feed it's been going on a very long time.

Speaker 5 (02:28:59):
Oh yeah, a hunter.

Speaker 4 (02:29:00):
Well, it plays into the witchcraft story of the Salem,
Massachusetts witches, and it goes far a lot farther than
I knew. The last time I talked to you today,
I did an episode with you know, a historian from
the witchcraft trials. We talked about it, and I found
that Joseph Smith's great great grandpa, the sam Captain Samuel Smith,

(02:29:23):
and the older one. Okay, his friends were the Goulds g. O. U. L.
D Well, They're one hundred percent involved in the witchcraft stuff.
And so all of a sudden, yeah Priscilla, yep. And
he ends up marrying the daughters after he gives testimony

(02:29:43):
in behalf for this gold guy. Right, he's got a
land dispute and he's on the side of the putnams
and nobody cares about this.

Speaker 5 (02:29:50):
Nobody cares about Salem, like what, yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (02:29:54):
We got to do with Salem because Bill, I am,
Jack Parsons is sst. Go back there. Both through the society,
we got a lot of connections to Salem right now.

Speaker 4 (02:30:04):
And it will event would argue today's Salem which one
dropped today and the second part more about Mormons will
drop on.

Speaker 5 (02:30:14):
Let's see Sunday.

Speaker 2 (02:30:15):
So nice well on the topic. On the topic of
the Linemans and the sanemwitchcraft, ma'am, we get one of
the most you know, the standard about the event is
done by the Lyman family, typical. We live in a
muppet world here, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (02:30:33):
And sir, it is a joke, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (02:30:38):
It is?

Speaker 2 (02:30:38):
Man, it is I got I got two more clothes
from Candas here. We'll bring us in for landing and
I'll let y'all provide some closing commentary here. And I
do appreciate y'all, you both, you all and the folks
then webs for joining us here tonight and gild g
c d on these matters of the Mormon Mothership here
with the ex MO fellow followers of that mothership myself
and uh hearty love and Jacob Jay, how dare you

(02:30:59):
try out? JJB?

Speaker 17 (02:31:00):
SIRP Well, I gotta try just to be clear and
to reiterate.

Speaker 9 (02:31:04):
Nineteen minutes before the shooter walks across, he had just
pulled into the driveway. Phil Lyman pulled into the driveway.
He says that he saw Chari kirkfad day. We're going
to get to that. Also when he says like he
grew up there and his family, I mean, his family owns.
We were able to determine one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
twelve homes right there. Incredible, Okay, absolutely incredible, and that

(02:31:28):
his little press tour. Obviously now you're like, you know,
explaining your car was in the driveway, So it's the
issues close to him that kind of makes sense. Then
he went on to Alex Jones and spoke about where
he was when the shots rang out and was kind
of and I'm laughing, he is just kind of absurd.
He kind of sort of blames it on these two

(02:31:48):
random goth girls. Maybe like he's kind of implying like
there were these girls that were wearing black and maybe
they should be taking a look at further.

Speaker 17 (02:31:57):
Take a listen.

Speaker 6 (02:31:58):
Just yesterday, someone comes in and says, yeah, we've got video.
He came off the roof, he walked up, he came
up here to the parking lot, got in the car
with an individual and they and they drove away. Well
that's not the story that came so that he that
he escaped another route, and there's there are people who
are coordinating this thing. I do not believe that that
thirty six that they showed recovered in the bushes was

(02:32:22):
ever on the roof. I think it was in the
bushes to start with. And now I'm not saying that
that Tyler Robinson wasn't on the roof. I'm not saying
he didn't pull a trigger.

Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
I know it was.

Speaker 6 (02:32:31):
I was in very very close proximity. So another interesting thing,
Like I say, I i'd left the front of the stage.
I wanted to meet some of my friends and bring
him down front. So it was clear at the east end,
and I heard this loud boom. I heard this loud bang,
and I turned around, I'm looking like what was that?

Speaker 4 (02:32:44):
What was that?

Speaker 6 (02:32:45):
And and pretty soume, some people started, you know, running,
Everyone was trying to pro So.

Speaker 2 (02:32:50):
That's one of his tales, right, and that's what he's
telling there. He went on a tour, but he's telling
different tales and never stopped. I'm like, what does this
to do? And is this on purpose? Because of course
he goes to visit Bill Hicks.

Speaker 16 (02:33:01):
I mean, Alex Jones, Phil thanks for joining us first
of all. But I saw a picture. I saw a
picture of you with Charlie Kirk, and it looks like
you were like maybe right before he went on stage.
Is this just like minutes before this happened.

Speaker 13 (02:33:17):
Yeah, No, I was. I was basically backstage and when
he and when he came out, I was throwing the
hats I was. I was there. I was standing next
to stage, and I would have been there when the
shooting took place, but I needed to go meet some
of my friends and I didn't want to just hang around.
So there's a part of me that's glad that I
wasn't in close proximity and part of me that that

(02:33:38):
I'm feel bad that I wasn't there just in some
form of moral presence and support. It's such a tragic thing.

Speaker 17 (02:33:47):
When I combine those clips.

Speaker 9 (02:33:49):
I'm kind of unclear as to where he was, exactly
when the shots rang out, if he was close, or
if he felt bad that he wasn't close. Anyways, He
went on to Instagram that night as Tiffany was prepping
her Morning America hit, I suppose, and he speaks further
about what he was doing back onto campus and what
exactly he remembers. Take a listen again. This is on

(02:34:12):
September tenth, and it's around eleven thirty pm at night.

Speaker 6 (02:34:17):
Hey, it's September tenth, twenty twenty five, and I was
just hitting back from Salt Lake to Blanding and we
had a very late start. It's about eleven thirty at night,
and I wanted to swing back by UVU campus where
Charlie Kirk was killed today and see if I could
let a few of the police officers know how much
I appreciate the work they're doing. See if there's some
college students here that I could rub shoulders with, more

(02:34:39):
for my benefit than for theirs. But what I really
wanted to share was I was very close this morning
where Charlie Kirk was at. I met him backstage and
we talked for a moment before he went on stage,
and I was backstage as he started speaking, then decided
to go up top.

Speaker 2 (02:34:52):
And I went up.

Speaker 14 (02:34:55):
To the top and ironically was very close to where
the shooter was. Apparently the shot was very loud, and
I determined pretty quickly that whoever it was was on
the roof and it was a two hundred yard kill shot.

Speaker 5 (02:35:13):
Where was he?

Speaker 17 (02:35:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (02:35:15):
I find this to be a little weird, but let's
be clear, by no means conclusive of anything other than
perhaps a strange coincidence. And maybe this is why he
feels so impassionate and wants to keep speaking about it. Also,
you know he's a gubernatorial candidate. Makes sense, this would
be a political moment to show that you're a leader.
And look, life is not exactly an Agatha Christie novel,
right where the guilty party somehow inserts himself into the investigation.

Speaker 17 (02:35:37):
So I park that a side. I keep pushing and.

Speaker 2 (02:35:41):
Are you sure about that? Because everything he's coming up Phil.

Speaker 3 (02:35:45):
So I always found it odd that he was able
to talk to Charlie before.

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
Dude, He's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:35:54):
Dude, of course, it's like a ghost in the machine.

Speaker 2 (02:36:01):
And we see him and now we see him directing
that incident with that kid who gets shut down, right,
and that kid's obviously doing his performance before and after.
You know what I mean, more than what he's I
call the gene rosen of this event. If you understand
that reference.

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
Makes sense, it's a deep yeah. Yeah, that's like like
I said, he's the ghost in the machine. You know,
he's everywhere and nowhere all at once.

Speaker 2 (02:36:29):
Well, and even then now we get into that matter
of his cousin slash nephew Old Shane or Broderick.

Speaker 9 (02:36:35):
Here, I don't always asking any questions about this investigation,
and I'm like, uh, yeah, this is weird. This is
very weird. So then I'm like, I'm honing in here.
I'm like, what's going on? I feel like he knows
something at the very least. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's
how I feel. And I begin actually searching through our
tips box for anything related to Phil, really to Phil Lyman.

(02:36:56):
Maybe somebody else noticed something or knew something, or he
said something, and lo and behold, very early on someone
just messaged us and said, hey, like, you should probably
ask more questions about Phil Lyman, because every time I
look into this investigation locally, him and his family members
are popping up and then that person tells me that
his nephew had sort of done this public tour like

(02:37:16):
Phil Lymon's nephew did this public tour, saying that he
was going to walk the same route that the shooter
walked near his grandmother's house, and that they found you guys,
remember this. They found the Converse footprint nearby his grandma's house.
And he presented a map like this is it. This
is actually from his Instagram. He presents this map and

(02:37:39):
his nephew's name is Shane. And this again, this was
all public. I'm only looking at things publicly. And let's
just look at some of these posts from nephew Shane.
I mean, first and foremost, here he's with his friends.
I took my friends to my grandma's house tonight and
we retraced his steps and we took pictures in the
exact place that the security cameras caught him.

Speaker 17 (02:37:57):
I've been through this new experience for the last few days.

Speaker 9 (02:38:01):
I'm still very glad to have attended and to support
Charlie Kirk and to see him. The last pick shows
Converse brand footprints and then he does hashtags and here
are him and the three friends and by the way
I'm looking at is the front of the right, and
I'm like, I don't know. I'd like to know who
that is at the very least, and i'd like to

(02:38:21):
know everybody in this photo is. This is just interesting,
Like you guys are in the staircase and posting side
by side like they put the side by side photos
of them in the staircase, and I just was like,
I need to just know more about you, and I
need to know more about these two individuals who I
couldn't find on his friends list, and they certainly hadn't
liked the photo or also would have messaged.

Speaker 2 (02:38:41):
Them spoiler alert one of them is Austrian.

Speaker 4 (02:38:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:38:47):
One thing I would like to point out that was
not a converse imprint.

Speaker 2 (02:38:53):
Oh, that's some point. We were all muppets. Some people
are like, well, who's the good guys, who's the best guys.
We're seeing a lot of SIPs play out in factional
device and factional warfare of bullshits. But when they're all muppets,
right right, she's working with Spencer Cox's campaign, it seems
they're working against those guys. She's spending bullshit about an autopsy.

Speaker 3 (02:39:17):
That prove it you know what I mean, right, And
then also, I mean her merch is weird. It's just weird.
CANDAE Investigation Agency, Like I get the pun, it's not
a good one. And it's just weird that you would
make your merch logo the CIA logo. I mean, isn't

(02:39:38):
that a bit on the nose? Like come on?

Speaker 5 (02:39:41):
You know that?

Speaker 2 (02:39:43):
Well, that's what I'm saying. Let's say let's say, for example,
she works for O and I. Well, that would be
something you would do to you work for O and I.
You would roast your competition or the Army Intelligence because
they're involved muppetry right.

Speaker 3 (02:39:55):
Well, in air force would be all over it as well,
because I mean, Utah is a massive air force.

Speaker 2 (02:40:01):
I forget about the n s A sir, yes, sir
n s A there, I mean a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:40:08):
Of tom for we Also, I mean out here because
we have an international airport as well also a national
airport just five minutes away from U v U. You know,
there's there's everybody out here. You know, it's it's wild.

Speaker 5 (02:40:25):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (02:40:28):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, how that head clows.

Speaker 2 (02:40:35):
He's a real muppet, isn't he. Well again, I thank
you all both for joining me. On these matters of
the Desert news and desert updates, and uh, we didn't
get to the prophet and see her Overlord of the Mothership,
and perhaps so we'll do that again in the future,
convenient for a future x Men general conference. Oh yes,
Followers of the Mothership. Do you all have any closing statements,

(02:40:58):
any plugs closing statements you can offer? Hidi, ma'am? Would you?
Would you kick it off?

Speaker 5 (02:41:02):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (02:41:03):
I'm Heidi, love of the Unfiltered Rise, I'm everywhere. Podcasts
are served. If you're watching me on here, you're missing out.
I dropped two more shows usually a week on Spotify.
My Patreon also has two extra shows a month, and
find me on x and on ig at Unfiltered Rice.

Speaker 5 (02:41:21):
Thank you so much, JJ. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (02:41:23):
Also for having me on always and thinking of me
for the wonderful extra conference.

Speaker 2 (02:41:28):
I couldn't I couldn't do it without you. I totally
enjoy these conversations and the ideas you bring to my
brain hole. As always, we've convened here, I'm leaving with
some new details which I appreciate that and respect that
from you both, and obviously look forward to future conversation.
Your ma'am, and we'll be in touch for sure to
talk some more of these matters and of that Salem
Witst trials for sure. That's been a great interest.

Speaker 5 (02:41:49):
Yes, and thank you also, Jacob J not JJ, not
not the JJ, do.

Speaker 2 (02:41:56):
A good job at ma'am. Job. Yeah, I got your
I got your share notes and that relateks to the
share notes and Jacob J, sir the other the other
JJ for your time as well, sir, do you have
any closing thoughts statements? Baking recipes you like to offer?

Speaker 3 (02:42:12):
No baking recipes at least at this time, although in
the future, I'm sure I would like to drop one.

Speaker 14 (02:42:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:42:17):
It's I'm not much of a baker.

Speaker 2 (02:42:19):
I'm more of a cooker, but I love Type two
diabetes stuff, so you.

Speaker 10 (02:42:23):
Let me know you got it.

Speaker 3 (02:42:27):
So yeah, honestly, this this all just glows, you know,
and I just I'm honestly kind of sick of it
at this point, you know. Like, not that I don't
want to stop talking about it, That's not what I'm saying,
but it's just so on the nose and it's so
sickening because it's so blatant, and because they think we're
so stupid like. It just irritates me so much because

(02:42:51):
that's one of that's one of my biggest pet peeves
is when people underestimate my intelligence, you know, and it.

Speaker 2 (02:43:00):
Think I'm dumb with your mothership right right.

Speaker 3 (02:43:04):
So you know, I'm just getting sick of it. It's
just like, come on, like, I don't know, I'm just
tired of these people acting this way, you know. And
that's why I'm glad we have these conversations because it
is going to expose them, and I plan on exposing
as much as I possibly can. So I want to
thank you for having me on again. As far as

(02:43:25):
plugs any anywhere, Rise to Liberty is where you can
find me. I'm most active on Telegram, Instagram, and Twitter
or x and you can also find me at Beware
the mocking Bird on substack, which is like my home base.
I actually just barely launched at the beginning of this
show a brand new T shirt on my store which

(02:43:47):
is Risedoliberty dot store. It is a new mind control
T shirt. It's got a really cool mind Control design
on the front that I that I made myself, and
it's got Rise to Liberty on the back and everything
just launched a hoodie and a long sleeve shirt because
it's about to get cold, so make sure and go
check those out. Pick pick one up. And beyond that,

(02:44:10):
I've got a show coming out. I was on the
uh the Free Thought Project that will be coming out Monday,
and then I'll actually be having a show here with
Heidi coming up here soon, so be on the lookout
for that. And other than that, just keep an eye out.
I've got this Charlie Kirk sy Op article coming out.

(02:44:32):
It will most likely be out by Sunday, so it
explains all the Charlie Kirk Syop stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:44:38):
So nice. Well, I'll have that link in the show notes, sir,
I believe I already do. And uh, there's a store
one as well. I have that in the show notes,
and definitely look out for that one, folks and the interwebs.
Look out for Heidi's new one. She's she's dropped there
on the Salem Witch, Charles. That's a very interesting topic. Also,
watch out for lasers.

Speaker 11 (02:44:58):
There's sounds of America out there.

Speaker 4 (02:45:00):
By the way, I've been shot with a laser beating twice.

Speaker 2 (02:45:04):
They got ted twice. Let's be honest, guys, stay vigilant.
So any, I thank you all the folks the interviest
for joining me here tonight to gild GCD. I thank
you Jacob Jaser and HETI Loveman for uh joining here
at the Guild GCD as well. Look forward to our
future ex moo fellow followers of the Mothership conversations of
a you know, general conference Friday, because I'm a smart
ass uh and uh and our you know what what

(02:45:27):
day slash night and or in between would be complete
without our our channel. I salute you for your dedication
to being wrong and I am motivated by your activities,
so you know your dedication to be wrong? That is so.

(02:45:48):
And on that note, any uh any closing last thoughts
for Alibis.

Speaker 3 (02:45:53):
Honestly, I just got given up to our our channel.
That's great. Love seeing you in the chat man.

Speaker 2 (02:45:58):
Very motivated. I like keys motivate, you know what I mean?

Speaker 14 (02:46:01):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (02:46:02):
But thanks a JJ.

Speaker 2 (02:46:04):
It was a lot of fun, absolutely and look forward
to next time. Thank y'all. Maybe well that's it. That's
the show here, folks. So the next time you're right
on the town, visit in your local watering holes or
perhaps just mandering around, and you hear the unmistakable sounds

(02:46:24):
of metal clanking, and you spot signs of a disturbance,
but check your six look in that garbage can, because
you never can tell the GCDs may be loose in
your town.

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