228. Julian the Apostate with Headless Giant

Who is Julian the Apostate? One if the key components of history?Julian the Apostate a Roman emperor from 361 to 363 CE who renounced his Christian upbringing to promote a revival of Hellenistic paganism. He was the nephew of Constantine the Great, the first Christian emperor, and his rejection of the faith that his family had established earned him the epithet "the Apostate" from Christian tradition. Come see how this impacts religion especially Christians today…Please see Headless Giant at the links below for all his amazing work!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm awake, are you. I wonder how many miles I've fallen.
It seems I'll get to the center of the earth. Curious,
isn't it? And really nothing is quite impossible. Let's go
now to our new episode of The Unfiltered Rise with Me.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Height E Love.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of The Unfiltered
Rise with Me Heidi Love. And today back with me
fellow occult reject, headless giant. He's going to piss everybody
off today, is what he told me. How are you
doing today?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm doing pretty good. I want to talk about the
most amazing miracle in Christianity that nobody knows about.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
That sounds like a good thing. Why is not going
to make everybody mad?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Jacob?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, well, we're going to get into it. But this
is three sixty three AD, and if you're new to
that day, it's one of the most pivotal dates in
the history of Christianity, and it gets zero attention from
Christians because it's kind of uncomfortable. But without this date,

(01:08):
without this date, there would be no Christianity nearly as
what you see it right now in the West. Because
in four eighty AD, Theodosius created Codex Theodosius, which was
a compiled work over over many decades, but it basically
made a new law that only allowed for Christianity and

(01:30):
Judaism to exist within the Roman Empire. Before that is
three point sixty three AD, when the last pagan Emperor
of Rome was ruling and he was trying to fix
some stuff. So we got to talk about Julian the
apostate they called the apostate. What could you really even

(01:54):
be considered an apostate if you're kind of practicing your
native religion and you don't want to practice the new
one that's come in and it's three sixty Yeah, apostasizing.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
But they really hate him.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
They also call him Julian the HELLI I saw, I
was like, oh ouch. So for you Christians out there
and for people in general, this is probably not a
very Christian. It is a Christian history lesson, but you
may find yourself saying that's not Christian. Look, we talk
about a lot of things on this channel, and I
like to keep it that way. So I'm just giving

(02:30):
you one more warning. This might make you angry, but
the truth will set you free, right versus going to
piss you off. So here we go.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right, So Julian was raised in sort of the Constantine
era of rulership in Rome. So Constantine had legalized Christianity.
Theodosius enforced it. So between the time of Constantine to Theodosius,
it was this was the trend, this is the way

(03:00):
we wanted. Well, Julian, as he was being tutored and
trained in Christianity, he decided instead to go back to
earlier Hellenic roots. So he was much more engaged with
Hellenic material, getting to know the philosophers, getting to know
all this other stuff. And he wrote many letters talking
about the problems with Christianity. One of the main problems

(03:23):
he identified was that it was like they worshiped ignorance,
so they didn't really have any answers to anything, and
if you ask them the questions, they would get angry
and you know, shut down. As you know, we've probably
seen several times it's that same pattern that Julian is
identifying in the fourth century AD.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
And so and he knew some things.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
He was like a huge he grew up like in
like engulfed in books with a Christian like person, right
like they put him in exile kind of in a
monastery or something like it.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Right, They wanted to get him trained up in only
Christianity because that was the goal. So when you're talking
about the spread of Christianity, you see the pressure from
above and the pressure from below that we see a
lot today from Soros types and all of these sort
of manufactured revolutions, color revolutions. The upper class wanted this thing,

(04:23):
this christian identity, and the absolute poorest of the poor
and slave class wanted Christianity as well. The middle class
were kind of powerless to stop it, and the only
shot that they had was this guy, Julian the Apostle,
So he was incredibly popular among the middle class in Rome.

(04:45):
The poor hated him and the other elites that had
been trained in Christianity from their slaves, because this is
how Christianity spread. They were taught Christianity on slave ships,
and then as they were traded around. Their goal was
to convert as many sons and daughters of the elites

(05:06):
as possible. So at around four eighty AD, we don't
have an exact number, it's somewhere between five and twenty
percent of the population in the Roman Empire were Christian.
So to compare that to today. This would be like
the people begging for lockdowns, right, This would be the
people begging for masks, the people begging for the great reset.

(05:29):
They wanted a whole new paradigm and they wanted to
absolutely destroy anything that came before it. And we see
this a lot in iconoclasm. They would take these the
idols out of the temples and smash them to the ground. Now,
idols back then were a lot of prestige, right, So

(05:53):
as you would have these, you know, massive stone figures
and you know all of these things, this shows you
the wealth and the honor of that town, right. And
so in a lot of ways, every town kind of
had their genus loki or the spirits that were in
that place. So Athens had Athena, right, Rome had Romulus

(06:17):
and Remiss and several other Vaticanus, you know, all all
of these other gods that were sort of local to Rome.
But they had a real issue, so they would trade
in these gods as well. But they didn't really want
to make the central focus and figure for that region.

(06:38):
I'm sorry, I got obviously, I got somebody back it
up right outside. They don't stop, You're good.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
I think it like filters out the background. So you're good.
I couldn't hear it.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You're good, nice, nice, all right. So there is this
problem where if you're worshiping somebody else's God, you're enslaved
to them. So you saw this a lot during the
the Maccabean Revolt in the early I think it was

(07:10):
one thirties I believe BC. And the Macabean revolt consisted
of Jews revolting against this guy named Antiochus the fourth,
and Antiochus the Fourth had a really pivotal role in
the scriptures, even though you've probably never heard of his
name before the Book of McCabe's has kind of been scrubbed.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Antiochus, right, yes, Antiochis. Some people say yes, yes, Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
People say it different ways. Again, Antiochus, Antiochus.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I've heard it before. I've at least heard that name.
So that's good.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Great. So what Antiochus was doing at that time was
he wanted to have total control over Egypt, right, and
so the Ptolemies were his cousins, and he had marched
them all the way up to Alexandria and he had

(08:07):
them completely blocked off. And we could see this in
Daniel chapter eleven, and what you'll find in Daniel chapter
eleven is supposed to be a prophecy, but it's too
specific to be a prophecy. They talk about the King
of the North versus the King of the South, and
they talk about the siege weapons that were used from

(08:29):
the King of the South going up against the King
of the North. And what they're describing is this battle
between Antiochus and the ptolemys Antikas. Wont it all? And
Rome said no. So there was this elder statesman that
showed up as Antiochus is finally going in for his

(08:50):
final siege and he's going to take Alexandria, and Rome says, no, now,
you're not going to take it. And so what this
elder statesman did is he drew a circle in the
sand around Antiochus and he says, you're not going to
leave that circle until you tell me what your intentions
are with Alexandria. So he's like, fine, I'm leaving, screw

(09:11):
the ass, I'm out of here. And then he goes
back up to Jerusalem. Right, So he's a Greek man,
and this conflict of the Maccabees is all about the
Greeks versus the Jews, and so what he finds there
is I think it's in the letter of Apian to
somebody about this event. It's not in the historical retelling

(09:38):
by Diodorus of Sicily, so Diadorus of Sicily writes all
about Antiochus, but it's this letter that really gets into
the nitty gritty details. And Antykis finds a Greek man
inside of the Jewish temple and they're going to sacrifice him,
They're going to kill him, and so Antiochus, who's already

(09:58):
pissed off, totally loses his shit. He takes two big
old pigs into the temple, into the Jewish temple, cuts
them open and sprays blood everywhere. So this is called
the abomination desolation also in the Book of Daniel, and
they attribute it to the Neo Assyrians, which were around

(10:22):
in Daniel's time. But unfortunately there's no evidence whatsoever to
show that the Neosrians invaded any temple or did any
sort of stuff like that. But there was the incident
with Antiochus, and when you match that up to Daniel eleven,
you kind of get what the Bible's doing. They post

(10:42):
date their prophecies, right, so everything that's happening currently. They
say it was predicted by one of their profits hundreds
of years earlier, and Daniel eleven is pretty much blows
the whistle on that. So if you get into that book,
then you just read about Antiochus, read about the Maccabean Revolt,

(11:05):
you're up to date on what they've been doing ever since.
So that is where we get our model for the Antichrist,
and you actually see a lot of you know, crossover
between Antiochus and the Antichrist. Right, So he was a
populist figure. He was very much into what the people's
will was in this Celucidian Empire, which was Greek.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
So after Alexander the Great dies, all of his generals
split up the world that he conquered. Ptolemy's went down
to Egypt. Celucidians went over to Persia and you know
Asia Minor and that whole region, and they were constantly losing, right,
So by the time Antiochus got up there, they have

(11:50):
a lot less territory than they started with, and he
thought he was going to just shore up his reign
by uh, sorry kidding, needs to stretch.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Little backs.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, I just love it. He's always doing it.
He's just like, stretch me out. It's a funny cat.
But yeah, So he's he's trying to regain this land,
and he figures by taking out the Ptolemys, he's going
to control Alexandria. He's going to be the most popular
guy in the world. He's going to follow in the footsteps. Now.
His epithet was Epiphantis or Epiphanes, which means Fanies, being

(12:28):
the origin of all of the gods in the Greek pantheon.
So he's saying, I'm the outer Fanis or I'm the
outside of this light. And so he was insistent that
people worship him as a god. So he would put
up the you know, the Greek eagle. It wasn't the
Roman eagle yet, it was the Greek eagle inside of

(12:49):
the temple. And they hated him for it, right, and
they wanted to get rid of all of the Hellenized Jews, right.
He wanted his people to be ruling the temple. So
he had his you know, his family kind of come
in there and say, we're the high priest. Now you
guys got to follow us well. As soon as this happens,

(13:12):
as soon as he does, the abomination, desolation and everything else.
Who invades but Persia. We're gonna find this happening again
and again, over and over throughout all of history. As
soon as Israel's in trouble, Persia steps up, Iran steps up,

(13:33):
invades and takes over all of the celocity and emperor
this he was the last Selucidian emperor, right because he
was killed by the Persians. Well, what we find with
Julian the Apostate is he has a scheme to end
Christianity by ending the relationship with the Jews and the Christians.

(14:00):
He wants to prove that the Bible is not accurate
by rebuilding the Temple in a way that does not
go along with biblical prophecy. So he decides that by
repairing all of the things that Rome has done, you
could start to take back some of the influence that

(14:20):
is now lost through all of these other religions and
start to make it roman Centric again instead of other
forms of religion. So he in three sixty three AD,
he's going to start these building projects. And this is
really bad for Christianity because Christianity needs the funding and

(14:41):
the backing of these Jewish financiers who are now just
elated to have their temple back, because that's what they've
always wanted, that's been the goal. And so when they
start building it, these miracles, miracles start happening. One is
they report that there was an earthquake right as they're

(15:02):
trying to lay these foundation stones. They report that there's
this earthquake and it's destroying the foundations. And then they
say some of the workers start to have this cross
appear on their backs, and also there's fire belching out
of the ground, lighting them on fire. Now we can
just assume that this is all a miracle, as the

(15:25):
fourth century Christians would have you believe, or this is
more terrorism. Right, So as he's trying to rebuild it,
they get terroristic about it and start lighting some of
their comrades on fire. Who are trying to build this
new Solomon's Temple?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Not fun, not good?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
No dam And who do you think invades and kills
Julian the Aposte? But Persia right on time, perfect timing. Now,
if we know about the Old Testament, we find that
Persia has the first moshiak, right, the first moshak is

(16:10):
the Persian guy who let them all return to the
land and used them as a buffer zone against his enemies, right,
So his enemies are now buffered in by Israel. And
what we find is that one of the main reasons
why Constantine legalized Christianity in the Roman Empire and said

(16:30):
this is now officially part of our canon is because
Persia was trying to invade Asia Minor. They were trying
to invade Turkey and the Turkish in there. As we
can see from the Epistles of Paul, they were all Christians, right,
because that's where the churches of Antioch and Taiakas Antioch,

(16:53):
all of this stuff is sort of connected. They were
in that area. Now, why is Turkey so important? Why
is it so central to control Turkey with either Christianity,
Persian influence, or Roman influence. Well, if we go back
far enough in history, we find that this this Antioch,

(17:15):
you know, this area is the mythical home for both
the Romans, the Persians, the Greeks, and pretty much everybody
else because we know now about Goldbecker, Tuppy, and we
know now about this is like the very first civilizations
to ever exist. So they've all got origin stories, mythical

(17:38):
stories leaking them back to that area. So when it
comes to the Greeks, it was, you know, the Iliad,
that was their defining moment. That was, you know, how
they defined themselves. The Iliad was a it was a
ethnogenesis document. So the Greeks sort of proclaimed themselves the

(17:59):
progenitors of the Mycenaeans, and the Mycenians are the ones
fighting in the Iliad, right, and so they were the
Mycenians were fighting their cousins, the Trojans. And what we
see in the Idiot by Virgil is that the Romans

(18:20):
believe that they are the progenitors of Troy. So now
that explains the Eastern Roman Empire. They had to hold
the Eastern Roman Empire because that's part of Roman identity,
that's their homeland. So the Eastern Roman empires right there
where Troy used to be. Maybe they didn't know exactly
where it was, but they they kind of had a

(18:42):
general rule. And before you know, Constantinople was a Roman city,
it was a Greek city, so they all spoke Greek
there and they didn't really feel that too much of
a you know, competition between the two. But it very
quickly became the home of Orthodox Christianity because this massive

(19:05):
Christian conversion. Now, if we go back to the dying
and rising gods in Turkey, we find Attis, we find Adonis,
we find Dionysus, and we find all of these characteristics
in the person of Jesus Christ as well. They were

(19:28):
aiming for Turkey, That's what they wanted because they knew
how pivotal and important it is to control Turkey. So
my question is when it comes to the Jews versus
the Romans, is what would a nation of priests do
to fight back against the nation of soldiers like Rome.

(19:50):
What they would try to do is they would try
to target their ancestral homeland. They would try to target
all of the things that make up the Roman identity,
which would be centered around Troy or this Turkish region.
That is how you could ultimately use this place, this

(20:10):
pivotal place, against both the Romans and the Persians.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Well, right, and there's weird stories about the Trojan horse
not being what it was. And there's weird stories too,
like Constantine didn't even convert over tell his deathbed, like
a whole bunch of things around this that are not
what we've learned, right, like not what's out there anyway?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Right, So the vision Constantine had that sort of took
him and allowed him to, you know, have Christianity legalized.
Was in a war with the Persians, and he knew
that he would not have Turkish support unless he legalized Christianity.

(20:58):
So he did so in a very Paul of Tarsus
way by seeing this vision and then saying, Okay, well,
this is now our banner, this is now our forerunner,
this is the thing that's going to bring us victory.
And it's interesting because in the Punic Wars, when Hannibal
was invading the Italian Peninsula, the Apian Peninsula, they go

(21:22):
back to Turkey to grab Kaibli, this goddess that's like
this massive black stone, and bring it into Row. That's
not a coincidence, Kayberli goes back before the written language, right,
So if you've ever seen the Venus of Willendorf, right,

(21:44):
these venus figurines that are like forty thousand years old.
All of that stuff kind of comes through this ancient
goddess worship happening in and around that region. So you've
got Kubaba, right, these all these different names for this stuff, Thracians, right, Ionian, Greek,

(22:05):
all of this stuff is really coming together in that region. Now,
if you think about it, this is the dividing line
between East and West. So you've got the Bosphorus River
that goes up to the Black Sea, and that Bosphorus
River is the continental dividing point between Asia and Europe. Right,

(22:26):
So these are the dividing point. So when you think
about the Iliad, this is the very first East versus
West conflict that's really mapped out. Now, obviously a lot
of that stuff is my mythological, but we can admit
that because it's one of those ethnogenesis documents. The ethnogenesis

(22:46):
of it ties you to your gods, right, kind of
like the septuagen It's the ethnogenesis of this group of
people now calling themselves Hebrews. Right. But if we look
at the DNA and we look at the archaeology, they
were originally Canaanites, and the Canaanites were hated for what

(23:06):
they were doing to children all over the place. Right.
We have Plato mentioning it, these Canaanite Phoenicians will sacrifice
their sons, and if they don't want to sacrifice their sons,
they're going to buy the kids from a poor person
and then do the human sacrifice right there with it. Well,
unfortunately we know who the Canaanites are, right, Hebrew people

(23:29):
have half Canaanite DNA. They were trying to rebrand after
losing the Punic War, and they needed a new thing,
and they were writing it at the very same time
as Antiochus. Daniel Elevin kind of speaks to that. So
you take all of these stories, some are historical, some
are mythological, you mix them together. You've got this ethnogenesis

(23:52):
document and now all of these people who were Canaanites before,
who were scattered to the winds by the Roman Empire
by smashing hearthage major Canaanite Phoenician city into a million pieces,
and then they came back together after Persia defeated Antiochus.

(24:12):
So that kind of changes the dynamic when it comes
to Christianity because you get just enough prophecy from the
Old Testament to convert a bunch of Gentiles, but not
enough prophecy to change Judaism.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
And it doesn't mean that the Bible. So for Christians, look,
it doesn't mean that it's not true, but it does
mean that history has been offuscating things forever and we
all we already know they've like totally desecrated the Bible like.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
In a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
And I'm sure you're gonna speak about some of this,
like we have to know that, yes, it is God's word,
I dare say instead of adding they just took away and.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
They hit away whatever we didn't need. I don't know,
you know.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I mean, we know about Maicia, we know, we know
there's other books out there. We know there's a lot
of scrolls out there that never got put in. It's
kind of one of those things where and I'm not
a heretic, look I am a Christian, but we have
to look at the whole picture.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
We have to look at what they've done. This is man.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
That's not God, you know, that's Man's with this.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
This is also warfare. And if we don't really recognize
how outnumbered the Jewish people were and how out you know,
gunned they were, and how kind of desperate they were
in seventy a d to really you know, kick something
off that they don't get wiped out, because that's what

(25:45):
the Romans do to Canaanite Phoenicians, is they wipe them
completely out because of a lot of the human sacrifice
that we were talking about, as well as the human
sacrifice that was going on in the temple during the
time of Attika. Now that human such.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Is mentioned in the Bible, which is mentioned in the Bible,
just to be clear, you know, they talk about this
on and on that they sacrifice their children to these Goths.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
So, right, and they turned they turned all of the
Canaanite stuff into a polemic. But we can see with
the genetics and with the with the archaeology that that's
not the case. They turned it into a polemic to
kind of rebrand themselves because they had just lost the
Punic War. If you look at the archaeology of Carthage,

(26:33):
you find that about a third of the Carthaginians were Jewish, right,
So they didn't It wasn't just the main tribes of
Canaanite Phoenicia, because Canaanite Phoenicia was a bunch of city
states that had kind of banded together, and before it
was Jerusalem, it was called Uru Salam and Udusalam was
part of the Canaanite Phoenician Greater project. Right, So they

(26:58):
had tire side on Urus and several other city states
in the region that were part of this Canaanite Phoenician
Empire when they switched it over to Jerusalem, and they
were trying to create their own ethnogenesis using the skills
they had acquired at being basically conquered over and over
and over again. They wrote these things in the book.

(27:23):
So another question I like to ask, and this is
kind of a no dunk question. We know that the
history is written by the victors. What's the one document
in our history that is written by the losers? It's
the Bible? Does that mean that they actually lost or
maybe they wanted to perceive as they're the ultimate loser.

(27:47):
We can't do anything, stop, stop looking at us sort
of stuff. Right. But if that's the thing that defines
who we are and it was written by the losers
of every conflict, there's something funky with that. It's the
one document in our history that was written by the losers.
That doesn't make sense, although especially in this time period.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, if you look at the Hasidic Jews, like they
still do some real weird things with Godess worship, and
they can lie all they want, but when you see
them at the wall, they're not just praying like this
is a whole thing and it's gonna get weird.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Like I just hate to tell people, but like it.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
It isn't the people that it's not Adam and eat, like,
this is not the same thing. This is all got
offf you skated, doesn't mean it's not true. It just
means that people can say they are whoever they want
to say. Like honestly, like you said you can. Back
then you could rebrand yourself unless you were a certain
color and you couldn't get away from it. I mean,
then you're screwed that right.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Otherwise, one of the things that really stands out to
me is the language. Right, So Hebrew is like backwards
Phoenicie and proto Hebrew is just another way of saying Phoenician.
So all of the proto Hebrew that they find in

(29:11):
America is Phoenician. But since they like to think about
the Twelve Lost Tribes a lot, as we could see
with the Mormons, right, twelve Lost Tribes.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, oh yeah, everything everything is about that.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, proto Hebrew again, it's back in that wheelhouse. So
proto Hebrew and Canaanite is the same thing. Udu Salam.
And there were no real invasions that they found on
the scale that they say that the you know, fleeing

(29:51):
Hebrews with Moses taking over these Canaanite towns. It was
kind of just they they were there all along, and
since there were a lot of invasions from the East
and a lot of invasions from the north, a lot
of invasions from Egypt, they kind of had this way

(30:11):
of surviving by getting as close to the elites from
those societies as possible, and that didn't really change.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
That's never changed, and neither has their love of Egyptian Stuffy.
I was talking to you a little bit before we
started about Scota and this whole thing that they talk about,
and Egypt goes into that because you know, she married
in over there and it's a whole big thing. But

(30:40):
they literally trace their lineage back. I had a listener
send me this Divine Right to Rule genealogy that is real.
I have vetted it and it is a complete genealogy
thing of all of these lines of David. But the
Mormons are in there, and it's very concerning when we

(31:02):
know what we know because of the times that we're
in and who who are they close with? Right Like,
ever since I've been a little girl. Everybody has always said,
but you can't do that because Mormons have to protect Israel.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
You have to. I'm like, wait, they're just killing everybody.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Though. I don't like that, Like why do we have
to do that when they're just hurting all these people?
And I don't think that's okay and for anything, not
just because it's wrong, Like let's take religion out of it.
It's just wrong, Like let's stop that. Now these are kids,
we're back to that again, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
So well, if you think about the continuity between Abraham
and yahweck, just give me a second. Hold on, so
excuse me, Abraham, he's sacrificing his only son Yahweh. Come on, right.

(32:09):
That was a practice by the cana Knife finished. The
only other people in the region who were practicing circumcision
were the Canaanite Phoenicians, and they were doing so so
they wouldn't kill their sons.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Well, they were doing so to continue the practice of
sex magic because it helps them and assist them. And
I dare say it's the one reason why Joseph Smith
didn't have any other kids, because he was practicing real magic.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Personally, that's my person.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
It's all about timing. The timing factor really does come
into play in all of this stuff. So I think
it goes back to Uruoss. This is the Greek god
of the sky, and so the Greek god of the
sky had been dismembered by his son Chronos, and so

(33:10):
the sky no longer had a member because that was
the only way to get Autonos off of Gaya. And
then between the separation, that's where people can come out
and be outside of the caves, because there's.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
A separation, separate out of the alchemical marriage for people that.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Don't And if you think about it, the North Pole
is an invisible rod, invisible generative rod spinning the planet,
and that was separated, right because there's no axle there anymore,
there's no wheel. It's it's separated. It's loose in space, right.

(33:48):
And then we've got the scepter, right, the sceptor is
like this divine rod to rule. You're starting to see
it so well.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
And and I mean, what was Joseph into divining rods?
He had a snake cane that was a serpent king. Like,
there's a lot of this stuff that I've been finding. Oh,
it's all.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Over the place. It's just all over it.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
It goes back to the beginning of mankind, so Udernos
is syncretized with Anu Anu Naki. This is, you know,
the first gods of the Samerians, and the Greeks really
did recognize a lot. Even in Alexander the Great time
they had people in his court who could read and

(34:36):
write in Cuneiform. So as he's invading, Alexander the Great
was inspired to go into the east and conquer Persia
from the ten thousand. Now, if you've never heard of
the ten thousand, I recommend looking it up. This would
make an excellent movie. I don't I mean, I don't
know why they have it yet. But the ten thousand
were these mercenaries from Greece that were going down to

(35:00):
help out a Persian prince, and when they get there,
the prince makes a foolhardy move in battle and dies,
and they have to make it back to Greece with
this harassing army on their tail trying to take out
as many of them as possible. They make it all
the way up to the Black Sea because Anatolia is occupied,

(35:22):
and it's occupied by people who want to kill them
as well, so they've got to kind of go around
and go up the bos Vorus, go hit the Black Sea,
and when they do, you know, the last remaining people,
you know, kneel down and they kiss the mud. Because
if you think about the Black Sea as being a
Hellenistic corridor all the way up into Russia. Right, So

(35:44):
where's the Eastern Orthodox Church today, It's not in Constantinople,
It's in Russia. Right, So what kind of script does
Russian language use? Cyrillic which comes from Greek, Right, So
this Hellenic corridor is all very you know, Slavic and

(36:05):
Hellenic at the same time. It's this is their lands, right,
This is where Jason and the Argonauts went to go
get the Golden Fleece. Right. So this Black Sea region
having to do with sort of their homeland is pretty
obvious in the story of the ten Thousand. But that
story of the ten Thousand is what motivated Alexander the

(36:28):
Great because when he was reading about this, he was
inspired to go back and finish the job that the
ten thousand started. And so he just sweeps across the planet, right,
And it's it's amazing he's still celebrated to this day.
I mean, I don't know how many other rulers you
could say, are celebrated like that. But you know, and
without him, you wouldn't even have the Bible because the

(36:49):
septuagen was written in coin A Greek. They developed coin
A from you know, these other Greek languages because none
of these people wanted to shift. So you've got the
ionic Greek, you've got the other forms of Greek language
that are incompatible in some ways but also very similar,

(37:11):
and they wanted to remain independent. This is one of
the reasons why you can't really say Greece ever had
an empire, because you know, Alexander the Great was Macedonian.
He wasn't even Greek, but you know, he was part
of the greater Greek world, and when he conquered it,
he immediately dies and then his generals take over, so

(37:31):
and again all of them were talking about loyalty to
Macedonia and not you know, Athens or you know, Sparta
or any of these other places that we know as
Greek today. So it's kind of a different situation than
what a lot of people think of when it comes
to the Greeks. But this one instance of like Greek

(37:54):
blooming and having their culture spread all over the world,
is what causes coin A to be the lingua franca
all across everywhere. So if anybody needs to communicate, they
start doing so in Greek, but they also speak their
own languages. They create a pigeon tongue of sorts, especially
in Alexandria Egypt. This is one of the reasons why
you know that the Septuagint is a Hebrew document and

(38:18):
not a Greek document, because they kind of write it
in this style that misuses a lot of Greek words
in very specific ways. So it's a lot more like
a ah, what's it called? What's the mix of Russian
and Hebrew or not Hebrew and Russia. It's German Russian,

(38:40):
It's several different languages mixed together. It's I don't know
what Jewish grandmothers will speak it, right, I don't know
if this one. I gotta look it up. But they
stop speaking that, and then they tried to go back
to this Hebrew, which is a reconstructed language in the
nineteen or eighteen fifties. Right, So Hebrew is a relatively

(39:04):
new language in terms of words that got translated into it,
and a lot of people don't realize that it's very
old well at the same time being very very new,
you know, eighteen fifties, and they tried to use the
same characters and everything else. But before that they were
speaking these hybrid languages, using some native words where they

(39:25):
were living in diaspora and some Hebrew words, and the
mixing of these together is what we see in the Septuagen.
They're using a lot of you know, Hebrew, I guess
language parts in with this coin A Greek, so it
was I know, there's been a lot of controversy on

(39:47):
YouTube about whether or not it's a Greek document or
whether it's a Hebrew document. Since it was written in
coin A, it's more than likely a bunch of Jewish
scholars living in Alexandria, Egypt writing this down. And what
they say is that the Septuagint was seventy elders coming
down from the twelve tribes, which didn't even make any said.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Seventy seventy and twelve.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
You say, I know those numbers, right, like the quorum
of the twelve and the quorum of the seventy.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yes, keep going right.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
So these twelve tribes were non existed by the time
the Septuogen was written. So How could they have had
all of these priests from all of these tribes show
up to write the Bible On its face, it didn't
make any sense. But this was the story that the
Romans were telling about the Septuagin because you know, G

(40:40):
is the number seven, right, So the big G, the
big G is the Bible.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
We can go down the street and I can show
you another temple that's got a big G on it.
That's not a coincidence.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Some of them look exactly the same here, but they
don't have the G.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
But we know, we know they are Masons. They don't
even try to hide that any right.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
And so, as I was saying about Carthage, right, a
lot of the people who lived in Carthage were not
from the Canaanite Phoenician world. They were from Saxony, they
were from the Gauls, they were from all of these
other places, and they were acting as mercenaries for the
Canaanite Phoenicians who had the world's biggest naval empire. Right.

(41:31):
And so this naval empire gave them the upper hand
in naval intelligence. And that naval intelligence is where you
get a lot of this spreading of religions right, and
even in the time of the Spartans, they were keenly
aware of what it meant. So I have this quote
here from Polydorus, king of Sparta, seven hundred to six

(41:56):
sixty five BC. He says, if you worship your at
a me, you are defeated. If you adopt your enemy's religion,
you are enslaved. If you breed with your enemy, you
are destroyed. That kind of lays it all out, doesn't it.
If they knew that you could have a cultural victory

(42:18):
on this level, and they were badly outnumbered, why not
shoot for it? Why not go for it? I mean
the worst they could do is exterminate you, which they
have been known to do to Phoenicians before. So at
this point in time, how do you fight back against
the nation of soldiers with your nation of priests? You

(42:40):
make them worship your religion.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
So how do they fall? How did they fall for it?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Like?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Do you think?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Well, again, the mythical homeland of the Romans and the
Greeks and the Persians is in three is this area
that has the dying and Rising God motif right throughout Dionysus,
And so this has a very very deep place all

(43:12):
the way back to Osiris in the religious practices of
the time, and so it just seemed like every other
cult for the most part. We didn't get it all
consolidated until the Nicy and Creed right until the you know,
first Nician Council, and what we find today. Even in Matthew, Mark, Luke,

(43:34):
and John they all have different stories about the resurrection
of Jesus. They all have different stories about these very
central key plot points, and they were all written decades
after the event was supposed to take place, probably not
by the original people who witnessed it, if we believe
that that happened. So maybe what they were trying to

(43:56):
do is to target this ancestral homeland with a compatible version.
But when you look at what makes it special and
Jewish in the New Testament, it's books like Romans, right,
So in let me pull it up here cat picks,

(44:22):
cat picks, cat picks. All right, here we go. This
is Romans fifteen to eight. For I tell you that
Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf
of God's truth, so that the promises made to the
patriarchs might be fulfilled. What did God promise the patriarchs.

(44:44):
In the Old Testament, you could find dozens and dozens
and dozens of verses, but they all basically boil down
to this, we're going to rule the world. And how
would they be able to rule the world without Christianity?
With Christianity, how could they have central banking control over
everybody on the planet Because the Catholics believe that they

(45:07):
weren't allowed to charge interests, so they employed this other
group of people that just so happened have to be
defended at all costs by Christians who now can loan
money to you at interests. So here's a good promise
from the patriarchs. And keep in mind, Lindsey Graham, Donald

(45:30):
Trump think of them when I'm saying this. This is
Isaiah forty nine twenty three Kings will be your foster
fathers and their queens you are nursing mothers. They will
bow down before you with their faces to the ground.
They will lick the dust at your feet. Then you
will know that I am the Lord. Those who hope

(45:51):
in me will not be disappointed. That's directed at a
very specific group of people. How could they make that
prophecy happen without a little help from Jesus and just
enough prophecy to keep the goy. I'm thinking that they're
going to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, and not enough

(46:12):
prophecy to convince the native Jewish people. So it has
these firewalls already built into it, which goes to Gamalel.
Gamalel is Paul's rabbi, right, And what we see in

(46:33):
Josephis and his account of the Jews is he says
Gamlel is actually fighting on behalf of Christians in court.
So Gamalel is supposed to be the guy who trained
this Christian killer in Paul of Tarsus. I guess where
Tarsus is, by the way, Anatolia, and it's in Turkey,

(46:58):
just alongside all the rest of it. So if his
job is to convert all of these people in Anatolia
to this new religion called Christianity, which is where he's
sending all of his letters, he's doing a pretty good
job of it. Because this is the pivot of continents.

(47:20):
This is where all of the wars between East and West,
between these great empires, they come together and battle here.
So if you can control the battleground and the nature
of which side goes where you can kind of pivot
the rest of the world. The British are constantly doing
this with Russia. They call it Eurasian control. So we

(47:43):
see the Cold War being sort of kicked off by
the British. They're constantly pushing for World War three with
Russia because if you can control all of Russia, where
you can balkanize all of Russia, you can then influence
the rest of the planet because it touches pretty much everything.
This is that central idea, and again it's mostly Greek,

(48:08):
so they've kind of held on to it, but they
have no memory of why it's important that they keep
those Greek roots. They're keeping the Christian roots.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Do you think it's possible, because I mean, of course
I'm gonna play We'll say not Devil's advocate this time,
we'll say Jesus advocate.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Jesus advocate. Well, they had a conversion, so.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah, do you think that there's a possibility that it
is true that Jesus was here and a lot of
the good things, and that they just used it like anything,
like you know, like Hegel says, right, the Galien dialectic
there and just use the big mess and.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
You know, win that's basically what he says.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
So there is the possibility that Jesus was a real man.
They have records from the time, and none of those
Roman records they kept meticulous records include any crucifixion of
a guy named Yeshuah. So unfortunately, like that would be
slam dunk right there, that would be it, right And
there were lots and lots of historians that were around

(49:13):
the region, and with the amount of miracles that Jesus
was pulling off, you'd expect for them to talk about that,
but you don't really have a lot of historians that
are contemporary with the events taking place writing any of
this down. And they were all over the place. It
was very popular.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
I think maybe they took them and used this because
they saw exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
They saw loop they did.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Now, in Josephas we find a lot of these interesting
details about the Jewish War, and what we also find
is that in Luke, in the Book of Luke, in
the Book of Acts, we find that the authors of
Luke Axe are copying verbatim a lot of lines from Josephus.

(50:04):
And Josephus was about fifty to seventy years after Jesus,
So you know that's you know, Luke an axe. That's
pretty significant to the gospel story. I mean, and if
he's lifting stuff from Josephus, and the reason why we
know he's lifting stuff from Josephus is because there's a

(50:24):
lot of biographical details that are missing but are present
in Josephus. So like, if you knew some guy as
Alexander the Egyptian, right in that context, you would know
him as Alexander the Egyptian. But if you're claiming you
know Alexander the Egyptian, you'd probably call him Alexander son

(50:46):
of whatever. But if he's kind of a stranger to you.
So they kind of incorporate these characters that are not
fully biographically sourced. And so they go with the Josephus description,
which was very because he could have gone a bunch
of different ways with it. And since that deliberate description
is the thing that they use textually, it's pretty much

(51:08):
a slam dunk that whoever was. So if that's the
case from a biblical minimalist perspective, you've got to say that, yeah,
a lot of this stuff was probably concurrent Miliu and
they didn't really have a lot to work off of.
Maybe a couple of guys who are similar to Jesus, right,
they did that a lot, you know, they.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Would, or they took the story and rewrote it after
they took everything that they needed and put it away
so they could use it for their disposal. That's a possibility, Yeah,
depending on when all this is going down. I mean
if people are dead, like Josephus is dead, or something
is going on later when they're redoing the books, right
like later when they're fudging everything like they always do

(51:51):
and they just take stuff out. I mean, we know that,
Like the Vatican holds so many things that I'm like,
you know.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
It, well, there is a conflict. I look at it
from a geopolitical standpoint, and I look at the history
that leads up to it. So after the time of Antiochus,
there's a huge rift between the Hellenized Jews and the
you know, Phoenician Hebrews, right, so they're kind of on

(52:23):
the outskirts of society. You've got the Essenes, right, which
are mentioned very often, but they're more of that Hellenized
Jewish sect also called the therapew Tie by some authors.
But this Hellenized Jewish sect kind of gets wiped out
at the final stand in Israel at Masada, Right, so

(52:47):
all of the people up on Masada, they kill themselves
and that's kind of the that's kind of it for
the Hellenized Jews, Right, they're done, but they kind of
live on. So you know, as this whole rebellion is
ramping up, literally because you know, the the Romans had

(53:09):
the ramp all the way after Masada, you've kind of
got the idea that maybe we can use this to
our advantage and use this Hellenize Judaism because they had
their own practices and you see a lot of that
in the story of Jesus, a lot of this a
scene type worship, and so that's sort of the group

(53:33):
that they went with, and they used a lot of
that stuff into crafting the story. So there could have
been a lot of Jesus is a lot of people
exactly in that sort of meal you and you know,
the Greeks were always the ones talking about love all
the time, love, love, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
They had so many words for love. And you know,

(53:54):
you've got a gape, You've got all these different forms
that now we see being used in the Jesus story
that wasn't really present in the Old Testament, right, So
you've got a lot of these Greek elements that Hellenize
Greek elements. Now again we're talking about over two hundred
years of being on the outskirts of society and being

(54:15):
sort of kicked to the curb by the Sadducees. Again,
the big bad guys of the New Testament are the Sadducees.
Pharisees are kind of like their toadies, their henchmen. But
you have to really understand where these groups lie historically
as well. So Pharisee in Hebrew literally means persianizer, right,

(54:37):
So if you're talking about all of these who are
Mazda type influences and this sort of Persian influence where
we get heaven and Hell from, right, So all of
that stuff comes from the Persian perspective, and they're injecting
all that heaven and hell and everything and angels especially

(55:00):
from the Persian influence. Pharisee persian isers right well before them,
the Sadducees would be like the judges, right. So these
judges in because in Canadak Phoenician society. The people at
the highest echelon of power are the judges, right, and

(55:20):
then you've got these other rulers which are called Malachim
or the MLK thing that we see happening over and
over again, Moloch Malachim. Right. And then you know ball
worship as well. Ball means lord. It's the generic word
for Lord. Everybody in the region is worshiping Baal. They

(55:41):
all have, you know, ball of, tire, ball of It's
just the generic word for Lord. How many times do
you see the word lord in the Old Testament? And
in Hosea. This is a great This is a great chapter.
By the way. I don't know if you guys have
read this in Hosea.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I find it, you can you can keep.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I find it so similar to another story that we
talked about before we was life. It's the story of Hitler. Honestly,
like this is the same thing, Like what do we
know about it?

Speaker 4 (56:14):
The history is different? They changed it all like it's
it's not it's it's not the group that we thought
it was the group.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
And then they're different people and it's really not that history,
and and it gets really convoluted. That's why I always
stand by the fact that I think that they took
something that was probably you know, I mean, in my
opinion as a Christian, yeah, it was real, not probably,
but then they used it just like they did with Hitler.
He's the big bad guy. You know, everything is bad

(56:43):
from him. And look, I'm not saying he was a
great guy. I'm just saying there's a lot of stuff there. Okay,
there's so much stuff there that I think that they
saw that they could do it. I think that these
people are so smart in so many ways, but they
tell on themselves.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
They do it constantly, like the.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Saturn hats and the hump in the wall and all
these weird things that they do that shows you they
don't walk the walk of a Christian path really like.
I mean, yes, they don't believe in Jesus, but they're
supposed to believe in God, you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Know, I don't know. I think in a lot of ways,
Abraham represents kind of the rejection of God in general,
because the God that Abraham promotes is one that is
outside of the universe entirely. Right, So they say, worship
the Creator, not the Creation. Well, if I can't see

(57:42):
the Creator, then I go and make something out of
the creation that reminds me of the thing that's well no,
because that's physical. Right. This is where we get a
lot of the Gnostic ideas of while the physical world
is evil, it's because it's it's coming through those same sources. Well, ironically,
the you know, first and best prophet of Yahweh is

(58:03):
also kind of the progenitor of that idea that the
physical world is completely evil. So you get the Kronos
and the anti Chronos in the same sort of sentence,
because in a lot of ways that Chronos, you know,
sacrificing his son that was supposed to be Zeus, right,
he was trying to eat Zeus, and then at the

(58:25):
last minute Zeus gets away. And there's also the story
of Jeepitha Jepepha I believe in the Bible. This guy says,
I will sacrifice the first thing I see to you,
oh God, when I come home victorious from battle. And
he comes home and he sees his daughter coming out
of the house, and so he sacrifices his daughter to Yahweh.

(58:47):
It's like, wait a second, what's happening here? And it's
like there are things in the Bible they forgot to
take out. So this is jose to sixteen, right, joseat
to sixteen, and it shall be at that day saith
the Lord, that thou shalt call me Ishia or Yeahweh,

(59:10):
and thou shalt call me no more bali bail what
just admitted. And so all of the polemics that we
see over and over again about these bad Canaanites for
passing their sons through the fire, they're castigating themselves. That's

(59:35):
who they were. And there there was no real invasion.
So at a certain point we got to say, how
long are we going to just not read this thing
for what it is? Well?

Speaker 3 (59:48):
And I know they changed like God's name to Lord,
and there it wasn't supposed to be that, like they meet.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
It started it started as Eloheen, right. So in Genesis
we start out with Eloheen, right, and then at some
Moses gets the word that it's not Elohim anymore, that
his ball or his Lord is now Yahweh. And so
Yahweh is then present all throughout the book. And you've
got in the Book of Proverbs, you can see they

(01:00:18):
use passages from the Bail cycle, which is a Eugartic
text from eight hundred years before, and they're calling Yahweh
these epithets that they call this this bail figure or
Malik Malachim again, you know, MLK, this this figure is
now transferring his authority over to Yahweh. So throughout all

(01:00:41):
of the Old Testament we see this transfer of authority
by polemicizing the culture that came before transfer through polematization.
And so if we're being honest, we got to say
that these Canaanite Phoenicians, you know, they kind of went
underground after the institutional isa of Hebrew. What happened to

(01:01:02):
the Canaanite Phoenicians, Well, gad I have that anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think they used it. Well, I think, yes,
we do. I think they're standing right in front of
us with a funny fish hat on. But whatever, whatever
hats okay, religion in general is not God.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
And I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Every single Canaanite Phoenician city was a melting pot of
a lot of different cultures. So all of these people
already were bloodlined corporate, you know, with the Canaanite Phoenician
corporations that were now running the oceans. So all they
had to do was bring Christianity back to their homes

(01:01:45):
and convert them, and then they became the elites of
that society. And this is why we see sort of
the shift. Rome didn't have kings, they had emperors, and
then after the Vatican we went back to the kings,
and those kings had to derive their lineage from who
King David. Now I know King David wasn't a Canaanite Phoenician, right,

(01:02:12):
He wasn't a Hebrew either. He comes through line of
a similar tribe in the area that they said weren't
allowed in the region, even though King David three generations
later was there on the region. So a lot of
this stuff can get really confusing if you don't have

(01:02:34):
the idea that maybe there's a lot of mythology here
and that we're being mythologized, and that all that stuff
is you know, it's not really our story. You know,
we've been told that it's our story. But Hebrew's not
a you know, proto Indo European language, you know, it's

(01:02:54):
an Afro Asiatic language, so we're not sharing this same heritage.
You know, again, this is Asia, right, and we're up
in Europe, and so at some point I think all
of these mercenaries came home and the Vatican declared them
to be the rightful kings of Europe. And that's where

(01:03:15):
we get our royal lineage from, not through Rome, as
they tell us over and over again, comes to the Vatican,
which was decidedly not Roman, and that Vatican represented the
far flung Canaanite Phoenician empire coming back home to rule

(01:03:35):
the rest of Europe. So this was their big cultural victory,
and that's why we have a thousand years of darkness
after that. Christianity is the only religion that made plumbing
go extinct for a thousand years plumbing and we didn't
do any updates on our study of medicine until the
seventeen hundreds. Galen was the textbook that all of these

(01:03:58):
doctors used from, you know, thousands of years before, and
they didn't really update anything because they were all too
focused on maintaining this control structure that now the rest
of us had no idea what we were born into.
And this is why it was so important that they

(01:04:19):
killed millions and millions of Europeans as they were trying
to convert the continent. And in a lot of ways,
I see Mormonism as being like the last gasp of
a lot of these native people as they were now
being combined in America to try and start something that
was more syncretistic to their own belief systems.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Not just the belief you know, there's a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
There's a lot of talk about you know, rex Daeus
and the kids of Jesus, and Joseph Smith says this.
He says, Jesus had three lives and that you know
that he is one of the children of these people,
and you know that he's actually a perfect combination between

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the Mary Magdalen, which was the tribe of Ephraim, and
the tribe of Manassa for Jesus, and that he is
one of each of those, and that that's what he is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
But Manassa they were supposed to go into Europe, right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
And so he's Irish, which you know they compare you're.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Supposed to be Irish. But again, McCarthy means son of Carthage.
They were already up there, right, So we're talking about
thousands of years of very strict mind control. If you
didn't believe in Christianity, you've got your head chopped off.
So all of the memories of anybody who would know

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who these people really are is gone because those people
are like, I'm not worshiping you. I know what you
were doing. My family knows your family from way back.
Uh cut its head off.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Off with his head yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Right, So that's the history, I mean, And we can
look back at all of these riots and it's always
these Canaanite Phoenician figures that have mobilized the slaves to
then burn down these pagan temples because pagan isn't bad.
And even in the Seed War stuff, like when they're

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talking about the men of Renown and these these you know,
builders or whatever, they're talking about the kings and queens
and and you know, gods of Europe. Now, God, are
we condumbing ourselves?

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
I mean, I there, you know, I always have thought
that they did some something okay with the population. Clearly
they did, because we had this certain type of people
for a really long time, and then we didn't. Then
we have this other type of people, and and it's
weird even now to see the differences, right, And it

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has to come from more than just like, yes, I
think all people are beautiful, but I'm just saying there
was something that shifted, is the issue, right, And they
talk about it. They talk about it, and you know,
this is the land where God forgot to protect the
people from the sun. Like this is in some of
this stuff because they were white, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
And this gets back into Hitler.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Yes, I know, now it's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Hitler was rejecting all of the Abrahamic stuff. He created
what he called positive Christianity that eliminated all of the
Old Testament, and he used an ancestral symbol of the
swastika as the symbol for everything. And that was Proto

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Indo Europe that was Pan European, that was on five continents.
The swastika was very ubiquitous for a long time and
that represented the rise of this Proto Indo European language group,
and they stretched all the way across the continent. And
what we see in the Old Testament with the Esau

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and Jacob, the story of Jacob and Esau. The Jewish
people consider themselves to be of the line of Jacob,
and we're of the line of Esau. And Jacob legitimately,
in the eyes of God, tricked his older brother out

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of his inheritance, and so the older brother will then
serve the younger brother. Again. It's these promises of the patriarchs,
and they say it to this day, the line of
Esau will serve the line of Jacob, you will be
our slaves, just like this lick the dust verse. Right.
They say it over and over and over again in

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our faces, and since we don't hear it in a
Jewish accent, we think it's us. So when we're being
told these stories from the person who looks like us
and who doesn't speak like that, we think they're talking
about us. But why would we assume that when it
says all over the book, this is how the Jews
will take over the planet. And why wouldn't the Canaanite

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pH nicians want to take over the planet. They used
to own half the planet, right, so why wouldn't they
be interested in that? Again? Right, isn't this how you
get your culture victory?

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
And it isn't even the normal Jews like That's the
thing is, people don't understand when we're talking about this anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
After the Balfour.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
De Declaration, everything is really offuscated there. You didn't have
to prove anything, and they know it, you know. And
most of the Jews are Kasarians.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
They're they're Kassarians that's what they are.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I mean, well, that book was actually written by a
Jewish Man and he was trying to take the attention
away from the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Rest of the Jews, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Kazarian people. They worked with the Eastern Roman Empire in
reacquiring Rome from the Vandal, the Goths and the Visigoths.
So these were mercenary cousins of the Goths, right, they
were Germanic peoples, and they were you know, hired out
because the Romans at the time Belisarius he could not

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you know, wipe them out. Belisarius was wiped out by
a Canaanite Phoenician woman who was the wife of Justinians.
So Belisarius, the guy who took back Rome for Justinian
and Theodora, was then murdered and disposed of because he

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was a filthy Roman. And Theodora was a capa knite.
She came from Syria and she was a whore. In
the temples, well they didn't have temples at that time.
It was theaters, right, so they changed the format, but
not really the months. So prostitution back then took place
at the theater, and so you would see who you

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liked up on stage. This is one of the reasons
why England only had men on stage is so that
you wouldn't proposition them for sex afterwards. So they dressed
all the met up. But yeah, so they dressed all
the men up like women, and you know, they had
the cross dressing and stuff like that. But yeah, classically
the theater has been a place for prostitution, which should
really bring Hollywood into very clear focus.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
They still do this in you know Arabic countries that
they let the women get all covered up, but they
let these little boy girl I don't know what they
call them, but they let them, yeah, dance around and
you know, be undressed and whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
So it's sick. But that's a lot of Turkic influence
as well. And they claim that they got it all
from Alexander the Gray, which I don't I don't really
buy into that, but that's what they're saying. But yeah,
so I think, you know, this was the event that
really changed the shape of Christianity in Europe for the
next two thousand years, I mean almost two thousand years,

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seventeen hundred years.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Right, what about repopulation?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Do you think that they messed with more than just
humans here, like I mean see.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
I think there is something to this idea that the
giants were in this Phoenician family tree, you know, so
there's some sort of relationship between all that and these Phoenicians.
And again we see a lot of megalists being associated
with this area. You've got Oga Bashan, You've got this
massive mound ah Man. I forgot. My dad went out

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there when he visited Israel, and he would.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Do this into like the Brotherhood of the North, the
Great White Brotherhood and all this weird stuff. And they
count certain people like people hear that with their ears
and they say, oh white again. No, no, no, they're
talking about Eskimo people. Well, they're talking about Asian people.
There's certain people that fit in certain pieces. Okay, the
caste system basically that I mean it continued on in

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India because it didn't get stopped. But why right, Like,
there's questions there and I think they're really important. I
think that Hitler knew some of that. I really India
of the Tea.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Sanskrit, Sanskrit and Lithuanian are have so many borrow words
from each other because they are closest to that route
in that proto Indo European language. Tree. So there's a
lot of words in Sanskrit that directly translate over to Lithuanian.
And that's because there were relatively few conflicts in India

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versus the rest of the world. Hardly anybody were going
through the you know, Himalayan Mountains to go cocker India, right,
maybe Alexander the Great would have done it, but you know,
takes a lot to get there. So they kind of
stayed the same. And you know, this this group of
Proto Indo European herdsman come in and make cows the
most holy thing, right, And so that's this you know

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Proto Indo European language group that they were nomads all
throughout Europe until they settled places like Rome, like Greece,
like all these are the places in Europe that we
see blooming and prospering. Again, older brother for the younger brother,
Canaanite Phoenician or this this new iteration of Canaanite Foedician,

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the you know, Israeli Canaanite Fodician. So yeah, and the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Oh negative or not just oh, but the rh negative
blood and we see, you know, the color change clearly.
I mean, look at like look at the difference I
mean the light eyes and stuff, and why did they
go and just do what these people said, right because
alien cargo codes. Basically, I mean they see these different
things like oh, where did you come from?

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Whoa what? Yeah? Do what the blue eyed guy said?

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
You know, even the Buddha had has blue eyes all
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
People people don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
But yes, yeah, but again, like the Buddha story and Hinduism,
these are completely different storytelling styles as opposed to you
know what you get in the dogmatic you know, Abrahamic face.
These are less dogmatic. These are more to teach lessons

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than to have you kind of open your mind to
new concepts and take part in the traditions of your
forefathers and less about worship me or I'm sending you
to hell.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
So right, so you got, but they still did a
lot of strange magic when we get into the yeah yeah,
oh no doubt the magi and I mean we see,
we see these different. What I'm saying is superior and
I don't mean superior in like race. Okay, they knew
something for first of all, and second of all, they

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were very different than other people. They were very did
they were taller, they were different they were just different
a lot, and so these people would get tricked into
just doing what they say. But that doesn't make any
sense unless we look on you know, cave walls and
we see big aliens. I mean, I'm just like, what
the hell happened there? Like I have a question, you know, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Well, the real question is did the giants stop being giants?
Did they bring back into the population. I think it's
a possibility.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
I mean, or did the magi start looking for them
and teach them how to do that just like they
do with cattle, just like the Mormon leader of the
kingstons And why did he do that? Why did he
start breeding with certain nieces and blah blah blah. Is
because he was breeding his animals a specific kind of
way to get a specific kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
That eugenics, Right, what if these because the horse didn't
start out as the animal we know of it today.
The legs were too short, the head was too fat,
it didn't look angly, it was not very powerful. They
had to you genicize that horse into the murder machine

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of Europe, right, I mean, how do you get a
grazing animal to get out there with predatory instinct to
march in a huge line and then stab these other
people and they spook easily. They're horses, I mean, come on,
and they turned these things into battle weapons and they
still have the lust for war to this day because

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they were bred into it. Why couldn't you make giants
if that's what your controlled breeding program was.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Well, when you see all these little pictures of Paracelsus
and you go, okay, what's going on over there? I
know you're not just playing with metals, Like, get the
hell out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
That doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
You guys are lying, like, we're not just making gold,
like I think.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Instead of something else. Yeah, instead of taking generations. Now
we see this cloning thing taking off, and now we
can start to really start to genetically implement these things
via technology instead of generation upon generation upon generation upon
trauma upon trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Right, they go back to India, and India said they've
been doing this forever, and that's why Diana of Ephesus
has the sax all over her.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
They're not boot where's that from? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Exactly where's Ephesus?

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
I know, I know, but they knew it clear in
India already, Like they knew Yeah, and they were like, yeah, Scythians.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Scythians are very closely related to these proto Indo European
tribes that went into India, and the Scythians were the
goldsmiths and the policemen of the Greeks. Goldsmiths and policemen.
Uh yeah, hey, I gotta get going. I got my
mail bag show.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Know, Oh my gosh, hey, Pug your stuff, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
It So you can find me on YouTube, and you
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want to talk about our dream or some kind of
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(01:19:29):
podcast at gmail dot com. I'll take them all and
I'll read them on the show, which is where I'm
going now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
As if you're going with Nick, say hey for me,
all right, you got it, Bye bye,