244. Alfalfa Club, the secret society you have never heard of!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm awake, are you. I wonder how many miles I've fallen.
It seems I'll get to the center of the earth. Curious,
isn't it? And really nothing is quite impossible. Let's go
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(00:23):
We're coming at you with a live edition today because
Ben McClintock is amazing and he does this quite often.
He talks about all this corruption in Utah, and I thought,
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we're going to talk about some stuff today. Then tell
I heard Ben on a random like act of God.
Probably I had never heard of this ever in my life.
So Ben, how are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Wonderful? Thanks for having me and good to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Good to have you here. Yeah, this has been awesome.
I just couldn't believe that there were I mean, of course,
you know there's secret societies in the world, but I
never knew to what extent. Right, this was kind of surprising,
And this one I've never even heard about. So you're
here to tell us a little bit about this very
strange club. Yeah, I've never heard about.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So the same thing. Like I've been in this, I've
been looking into se your societies for like twenty five years,
and so you you know, we know the normal ones,
the Skull and Bones, the Bohemian Grove, you know, those
types of things people talk about. But you have your
Alex Joneses and your John Birch society groups that will
talk about secret societies and the fact that we face

(01:47):
a conspiracy. But when I came across this, it was
really weird because it was the first time that I
came across It was a headline on one of Utah's
biggest mainstream you know, conspiracy controlled me KSL, and they
had this article and then the headline was literally Romney

(02:07):
is president of a secret society in Washington. That was
their headline. And I was like, okay, interest and I
you know, and so I looked into It's called the
Alfalfa Club. As you know, you can, as you can
see in the the screen we have up here and
the Alfalfa Club. It was very difficult to find information.

(02:29):
It was always called a secret society. Everybody calls it
a secret society. But even like on the Wikipedia page
and every you know, almost every other article that talks
about it, it's just it's a secret society and its
only purpose is to celebrate the birthday of Confederate General
Robert E. Lee's and that's the end of it.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
And that's it. Okay, that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
But like nobody talks about like I've never heard I've
never had Alex Jones talk about I've never you know,
your typical Conspiracy Central people. Nobody's unlike, what's going on here?
Why is nobody talking about this? As I dig into it,
And it's because it's probably because it's very difficult to
find anything about it. But of the public information we have,

(03:11):
the it made me say, that's bolooney. Even though I
didn't have any evidence, right, I didn't go forward, I
didn't go public and say hey, we know this is
a secret society. Da da da dah. You know, but
it just but when I was digging into it, I
was like, this is blooney, because why do you have
why do you have Barack Obama going to a celebration
of a Confederate general Roberty Lee That makes no sense

(03:35):
on the surface level, you know. And why isn't the
mainstream media calling all these people a bunch of racists?
Because it's full of people like, you know, you have presidents,
former presidents, senators, people that are in you know, high
levels of academia, high levels of business, and it's it
is so elite. It is limited to about two hundred people,

(03:57):
and it it is by invitation only. If you know,
it's like those you know, fancy restaurants. If you need
to know the price, you can't afford it. It's the
same kind of oh no, you know, if if you're
going to apply, you're you're not welcome. That's just not
a thing. And so this is like this is next

(04:19):
level secret society type stuff. It's very uh, skill would not.
Bohemian Grove is a very similar being Bohemian Club, very
similar where it's invitation only, there's no applying. It's not
like the CFR where you can apply and you can
get a sponsor and and that kind of stuff. It's
it is literally invitation only. So why is it so secretive,

(04:40):
Why is it so hard to get into? Why does
anybody care? Why are these people of such high society care.
Why do they care about celebrating a birthday of this
Confederate journal I mean general. And why is nobody in
the corporate media saying anything about it?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Why?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean meaning because KSL. I mean obviously I found
out about it because of a mainstream article. But they
didn't say, oh, look at these racists celebrating the birthday
of a Confederate general. It was just like it was
just hohome, this is just a matter of fact, this
is what they did. And then they just moved on.
It was just nothing else. It's a secret society and

(05:22):
there's nothing else. The headline in KSL said, Mitt Romney Republicans.
So at the time he was the senator from Utah,
US senator has been named the president of the Alfalfa
Club in Washington, DC. He has been a member of
the secret society, which includes politicians, business leaders, and billionaires
since twenty fifteen. Romney takes over from another former Massachusetts politician,

(05:45):
John Kerry. So it's Republicans and Democrats, just like all
the other ones that they on the you know, out
in the public, they pretend to be enemies, but behind
closed doors they're best butts. And so it's it just
reminds me of Carol Quigley's statement and Tragy and Hope,
where he says the two parties should be almost identical

(06:08):
so that the American people can throw the rascals out
at any election without leading to any profound or extensive
ships and policies. So just like a traditional you know,
WWF wrestling match, these guys pretend to be enemies in
the public, but behind the scenes their their best butts.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
And there meanwhile tearing down all these statues and having
fits and causing riots, and but they're having dinner. We're
still doing dinner. Dinner's fine, apparently.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeahtt Ronnie that says that he loves Antifa, right, he
loves Antifa, and he's okay with them tearing down confared
to statues. But he's the head of an organization that's
celebrating a Confederate's birthday. Does it make sense? So I
was just I was digging. I was like that, there
this what's going on? Why don't we have more information?

(06:58):
Why that doesn't make sense, and I just kept digging
and digging and digging and digging until I found an
article where it referenced a biography of the autobiography of
the organization, and I was like, Okay, this is this
is something I can go off of. And oh wait,
there's just a reference to it. I can't find it anywhere.
There's no you know, there's no rare booksellers selling copies

(07:21):
of the book, there's no archive. Dot org doesn't have
scans of the book. But there was this obscure and
I think it was Pennsylvania University that actually had it
in their collections and they scanned it and sent me
a copy. Ah, and so I was able to read
their autobiography. That tells us whether it's true or not.

(07:42):
That to me is secondary. But whether it's true or
not is it's the fact that this is what they
believe about themselves, right, and what makes me believe And
so as you read it, you're like, is this satire?
Is it? Because it's a little bit it's a little
bit out there, a little.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
So I just tuned in. You guys, he's gonna talk
about what the Alfalfa Club, a secret society you've never
heard about it actually thinks about themselves.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
So it's it's pretty wild. So it was. So this
is before also right where this is written in just
right there in the beginning stages of World War One.
So nineteen nineteen is when this is published amongst themselves.
It's not like published and they put it in whatever,
the nineteen nineteen edition, you know, version of Barnes and

(08:35):
Noble is. You know, this isn't out there going in
the series catalog and going out to everybody in America.
This is just published among themselves in nineteen nineteen. And
it was written by a congressman. I was not a congressman.
Sorry he is. His name is h Ralph Burton, and

(08:55):
he was involved in Congress. He was a Special Investigator
for the House Appropriate Creations Committee in charge of New
York City and State. He was a special investigator for
the Senate Campaign Expenditures Committee. He was a General Counsel
to the House Military Affairs Committee, Chief investigator for the
Senate Committee on Post Office and Civil Service, General council

(09:15):
for the House Select Committee on Current Pornographic Materials. Founding
member of the National Press Club, National Union for Social Justice. Okay,
so he's not some just you know, whack job off
in the woods, somewhere there in the elite is he's
a part of the elite. And this is nineteen nineteen,

(09:38):
decades decades before conspiracy stuff becomes popular. This is kind
of a role where you have in the beginning of America,
you have you know, the founding Fathers circulating books like
Proofs of a Conspiracy by James Robison and things like that,
and then you have kind of this. You go into
the eighteen hundreds and you have this lull where nobody's

(09:59):
really talking about conspiracy. And so in nineteen nineteen this
book is published. So you know, when you're reading, you're like,
is this something? Is this a troll? Is this a joke?
Is this something to be disinformation so that people reading
this will think about it and then think this is
true and then it's really something else. Well, so my

(10:19):
belief is that this is really what they believe about
themselves because of several things that they say about themselves,
which I'm going to get into in a minute. But
there's no there's no John Birch's side, there's no Alex
Jones to try and feed false information. This isn't in
the lexicon the mass. The people aren't hearing about this

(10:40):
organization and getting this book and talking about it, and
so that to me, that idea doesn't make any sense
to me. This is all the evidence leads towards it
being something published among themselves. It's what they believe about themselves.
It's a legitimate self you know, internal public to let

(11:01):
the insiders know what their history is. Because every organization
likes to have a history, whether they're claiming to be
ancient history, you know, and they date back, you know,
thousands of years, or whether they claim to you know,
be something that's a refreshment of something that's thousands of
years old. They want to have connection to antiquity. And

(11:25):
so that is something that that they are trying to
promote the amongst the South. I don't what you did
you have?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh I was just going to say, this antiquity isn't
just regular antiquity. This is Egyptian.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly, yes. And so they claim to
be the oldest club in existence, okay, and dating back,
as you said, to Egypt. And what's another interesting thing,
another interesting point that I think leads to it's it's
not being a troll of publication, but what it says

(11:57):
is that it was quote it was the kernel Edward
Mandel House of the olden days. And so A the
average person back then, what is your average Joe doesn't
know what that mean. Only people on the inside would
get that reference. It's not until the nineteen seventies when

(12:18):
his book Philip dru Administrator becomes mainstream and you know,
it's it's published and exposed by people that are exposing
the international conspiracy. And so they're what they're saying amongst
themselves is that A they know that Colonel Edward Manda
House is the uh, you know, the power behind the throne,

(12:38):
and that they're and then that they're saying that that's
what they are. They are the power behind the throne
throughout millennia.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And so they they're doing all of this and they're
they're talking about Egypt and that they're practicing they specifically
say they're practicing these Egyptian rights right exactly, Well, how
magical of them? How much of them? No wonder? They
keep it very secret?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Oh absolutely, yeah. Even in this they don't publish what
those secrets are, and they claim that their documents, they're like,
are these secrets that we have these ancient mysteries that
we have. These are what all of the wars throughout
history were about obtaining They're like, yeah, that the current war,

(13:27):
World War One, this is about because this is the
Kaiser wants to get our secrets. We know, you know,
oh you know the Trojan War. That's because they wanted
to get our secrets. Right. You just think of every
major war throughout history and they're saying that it is
it was because they and they list several of them
throughout history. They're like, yes, this this war was not

(13:48):
about what the public face was about. It was about
getting our secrets.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Wow, that's that's actually interesting to know that there were
like World War factions going about after are these particular secrets.
That takes this to a whole nother level. Really, that's
kind of frightening in a way, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Even that gets these secrets rules the world. And so
they're admitting, a, we rule the WRULD right now because
we have the secrets and these guys are trying to
steal it from us so they can rule the world.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Hmm. Wow, So do who is? Do you know who
their current president is? By chance? I know Rodneys.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
They re elect a new one, you know, every single year,
but I haven't seen anything new for who the you know,
most current one. They meet in January, so about a
month away from their next meeting, and so folks keep
your eyes out to see if anybody's covering who the
new president is. But it's you know, this is.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
It and right once you're in. Okay, So Roney's still
in mm hmmm. So, and we were talking a little
about him before we went live in his family and
and just the different things they're, oh boy, he's a
treasure trove. And look, I pick on the Mormons because
I used to be one. He's picking on the Mormons.

(15:08):
He's not. He's picking on the state and the secret combinations.
So I think it's important for him to actually explain
his view on this because we come from a little
bit different places. Then I'll let you share that, oh
kind of your background.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, So this is a satanic conspiracy that we faced.
I mean, that's just all there is to it. And
so people that you know, we talked about this in
our other program about how this wherever the concentration of
power is, that's the organizations that they're going to try
and influence and have the most impact on because you know,

(15:43):
in places like Utah, if you infiltrate the Unitarians and
the Democrats, that's not going to give you a whole
lot of power. You know, same thing if you're in
New York City, if you infiltrate the you know, Constitution
Party and the Mormons, how much power is that going
to It's none zeros zilch. And so what you're at

(16:05):
is where they're looking for. Okay, who is what are
the too, you know, in religion and government and academia,
what are those you know, what organizations in that circle
has the most influence in that geographic area, and that's
where they're going to go after them. And so, you know,
I don't you know, people want to say it's you know,
the Jews, and it's the it's the this and the that,

(16:27):
but I think it's you know, it's it's much higher
than that, because just like people are going to claim
it's a Mormon conspiracy, you know, I would say, well,
you know, your average old lady that's you know, knitting
in the pews is not a part of the conspiracy.
And there are and that's dismissed the fact that there
are is a higher percentage of certain groups of people

(16:48):
in certain areas. But that's true, you know, that's just.
But that doesn't mean that every single person in that
institution is a knowing part of it. If that makes sense,
you have influence beyond the norm without having every single
person involved in that institution be aware of it.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's right. I mean, it's just very interesting. Shout out Jeremy, Hey, Jeremy.
I just think it's very interesting that people can't see
that the answer is yes, the answer is it's all
of them, Like, yes, it's the Jesuits have a history
of working with the Satanic elite, which is what I'm
going to call them of the Mormons, because it's not

(17:28):
the Mormons, like people think I'm picking on these people
when it's not. That's not what if you go to
the body of the church that's not your regular people,
like Ben was saying, like he still believes. And that's
why I'm being very specific today because I have my
own beef with the ideology. But that's not what we're

(17:48):
here for today. We're here about how this was infiltrated.
And you know, there's been many people try to talk
about the infiltration from a very early on era, and
you know, people just didn't listen. I really have seen this.
You know. LDS abuse brings this up. You know, we
get into skull and bones from this. Secret societies are

(18:11):
are a problem because once you have an oath with
a brother or a sister doesn't have to be male,
although many of them are, you know, it's just the
fact that they will do anything to be a part
of this, you know. And how Romney died, like I
mean his dad.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Oh yeah, Georgia, whoa. I mean, I've got my own
suspicions of that, but I don't know if we want
to get into that, because that's oh yeah, people still alive,
and they might be considered slander or libel or whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Well, we could say what we think about it, because
I believe, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Al those lines. I think that a part of the conspiracy,
once you get initiated into it, is that you have
to sacrifice someone that you are close to and that
you love. And so that's that's what I'll say about that.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yep. Yeah, it's And and the hunting clubs that become evident,
you know, like he was very involved in some very
interesting clubs, and and when I was researching this yesterday.
I even ran into I'm sure you saw the post
on X you know, another club and it's another hunting
club and Alan is a part of this one, Alan Romney,

(19:20):
which big surprise, big surprise. You know it's the Saint
Hubertus Did you see that? That one as well, And
so you know, I'm just saying like these people are
very involved in some very strange things, and so clearly
they're in the club.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's mom in the sixties, right, this so MIT's mom
a Republican in the sixties. That's a Mormon that's advocating
for abortion.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's doesn't make sense, that's weird, right, And his mom
is I think her name was Pia Dad I think
it wasn't or no, is that the grandma. There's one
that's very interesting. Her history is actually very interesting. And
this gets into elites everywhere. Look, this conspiracy wouldn't be

(20:05):
a conspiracy in Utah. There would be no secret combinations
if this didn't branch out, and it did so into
other factions of religion. It did. They all came together,
you know, like you said, the Jesuits, the Jews, the Mormons,
the everybody. And it's this top elite percentage that you
don't know what they're doing. Clearly we don't.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, there's stuff that gets out there, and that's you know,
my book Invasion talks about that. And there is information
that we can know about and that we can document
and that we can prove. This isn't theories and we're
like putting you know, magical ideas together that could be
true and could be not true. We can find out
a lot of the truth, we can find out a
lot of the data and the facts, and we can

(20:50):
put the pieces together and just like any good detective
can make a case and then it's for the viewer
to say to convict or not is what I would say.
And so we're not just delving into you know, you
know what would be considered maybe a cross between storytelling
with you know, what's what do they call that? A

(21:10):
dramatic you know history or like what the work and
the glory. I'm trying to think what do they call that?
Where it's these are fixtional characters based on reallyvan r.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, and so dramatizationmatization, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
We are saying, here is the data, Here is what
they say about themselves, Here is what we know this
is what they do. And so you know, confessions I
think should be considered heavily, you.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Know, well, and we are looking at these different factions
of people, like currently, you know, we just got a
new prophet into the Mormon Church. He's very interesting. The
one before that was my favorite. You speak about him
and your book which I read and I highly recommend you, guys.
I actually love his book and you gotta check it

(21:58):
out because the stuff that is happening is just bananas.
I've never sat there and gone wow, I thought I
knew a lot. This is wow, this is wild, you know.
And you've got another one out as well. You've got
a part two out right now as well.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
So well, we've combined one and two together into one book,
and so you just get the one invasion and it
puts it all together. And I've got a lot of
the details on the Alfalfa Club. I've got a list
of every single member that I've been able to uncover
that we have data for that's shut in his pages
and pages and pages. You got like Neil Armstrong, for
goodness sake, You've got like people in like just the

(22:36):
names will blow you away, and their influence in every
aspect of society, and then nobody's talking about this organization.
It's just makes no sense. I don't know why nobody
else is talking about this.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
That's why I had to have you on. I was
just shocked. I was actually thought, this can't be real.
This name is too silly, right, and I mean Buffett
signed one of the dinner things. This is what's behind me.
You know, we've got these people that in a regular
society would they be friends. Right, Like what you've already

(23:11):
given examples of, like some yeah, others doesn't seem to
make a lot of sense. You know, they're going against
things they say that they didn't believe in at one
time or whatever. Like you said, these things aren't meshing
with their political alignments or whatever they're going through at
that with.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
The character that they present to the public. And I
think that's an important thing, and that leads me to
an example I want to bring up. Is this so
called conservative guy, Armstrong Williams. I don't know if you've
ever heard of him. He's a so called conservative talk
radio host and has different publications, and he is an
attendee'es a member of the Alfalfa Club and he actually

(23:52):
wrote an article about the Alfalfa Club a year ago,
so January of this year, just right after their last meeting,
and he says that, quoting from his article from the
Baltimore Sun, he says, quote, I participated in the activities
of the day at the one hundred and twelfth Alfalfa
Club dinner, an exclusive event, and in reality, the only

(24:16):
event that the club exists for blowing the event is
a black tie banquet held on the final Saturday of
each January. The banquet has no real purpose other than
to bring together a group of devoted patriotic Americans from
the highest levels of government and business, lobbyists, business electives

(24:38):
and executives and elected officials, you name it. So you've
got your patriotic Americans, right, you got Bloomberg, You've got
Born Buffett, You've got Barack Obama. I mean, these are
the types of patriotic Americans that he's talking about that

(25:01):
attend these types of events. It's not patriot These are
the elites that are pushing us towards the New World Order.
To call that patriotic Americans is insane. And then he says,
he says, quote, attending such a dinner reveals that the
leaders of these political parties who publicly disparage one another

(25:21):
almost daily, do not view their relationships in the same
manner as many Americans regrettably do. So he's admitting just
outright that these disparaging of one another in public is
a caricature that they create for the public, because that

(25:41):
is not that is not what they believe about themselves
behind the scenes, right they're calling this guy evil on
the on CNN, and then later on that night they're
chumming it up at the Alfalfa Club dinner making plans
for the world. And so this we've got to get
past these guys attacking each other in public. It's it's

(26:02):
just like you know, the the pre wrestling match hype
between your Home Broken and your Andre the Giant, and it's,
you know, they're just getting at each other's throats and
they're gonna they're gonna kill each other right there, and
then they get but then behind, you know, once the
cameras are off, they're you know, sitting back and drinking
a beer and having a party.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yep, yep, exactly. I mean, are you not entertained? Is
what I love to tell people. The more they can
keep you, you know, busy hating someone else or busy
chasing something else or whatever. We we have to understand
what America was founded on, and we have to understand
why it was founded and when it was founded, aligning

(26:41):
with the Bavarian Illuminati supposedly ending and all these things
that are going on at the same time in the
world that everybody just says, went away, Oh, great, wonderful story.
I think that if I were in a position of
power and influence and money and gain, I don't know
that I would just go away. I mean, you know

(27:04):
it didn't. He just went to another country and kept
living it out. Yeah, I mean he lived in a
castle till he died. What are we talking about here,
That's crazy. I mean, nothing happened to him. Yes, they
threatened them, nothing happened.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
To him, you know, they said, Okay, he took off.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, and he lived in a castle for real. That's
the real story there, like, and he lived till like
a long time. I think he was quite old when
he died. Right.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
The same people that were in that formed the Jacobins,
and they were behind the French Revolution. And then you know,
you have the black hand and you have the Carbonari.
I mean, just all these guys that we think that
they just they went away, but it was just a
name change. And we treating these people as what they
say at what they say at face value, because they're liars,

(27:54):
as we see here with this guy admitting because he
knows that this article is not going to go viral.
He knows that Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and the
young Turks aren't going to talk about how their buddies
in Republicans and Democrats are actually friends in real life,
because they have to continue to promote this idea that
they're at each other's throats and they hate each other,

(28:15):
because then we will say, oh, we better vote for
so and so, because yeah he's not perfect, but at
least he's not so and so and so they have
to perpetuate this fake, you know, animosity towards each other
so that we believe it and we buy into it,
and we invest our money, in our time into making
sure the other conspirator doesn't get elected while we're helping

(28:37):
the other conspirator get the first conspiraor get elected. And
so we've got to stop, you know, believing the Punch
and Judy Show that's being put performed for us, and
start to look at what did they say themselves behind
the scenes when they don't know you're looking and really
actually understand what's going on.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, and I love that old world. Make Max in
the comments and he said, no surprise, their motto is
alfalfa lux is est, alfalfa is light. That's very interesting.
And you know he also says in Arabic, h this
means green fodder. So, uh, that's kind of concerning knowing

(29:17):
that you know they call our children cannon fodder. Uh.
So people need to understand that. And like, really, when
you're aligning with these people that you might be willing
to sacrifice your sons for because we have because we
have time and time again, our sons, our fathers, are
all of our paternal lines like getting just blown up

(29:38):
and off sent to war, like for what for what?
For their for their games. That's what this is. And
that's that's why when you were speaking out, especially as
somebody that believes still in the Mormon religion, I was
so grateful that you would still talk to me, because
a lot of times that doesn't happen, you know, and

(29:58):
it doesn't mean we align with everything but what we
do align with matters. It matters, you know, we have
to be able to come together to expose the darkness
in all of it. Because maybe that's the point, right,
Maybe that's why the religion is something I was pissed
off at, because these evil people have taken it over

(30:19):
at a top level, which I think you know goes
into skull and bones. And I'll let you discuss that,
because I definitely align where you do about you know,
our past profit.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
So I don't know, you know, it's one of those
things where I always like, I don't want to hurt.
I'm not here to damage people's testimonies and it, but
it's but data's data, and so you know, I don't
like to you know, I've only done a couple of
shows on it where you know, I would say that
if if you know, your average guy that's trying to
destroy testimonies would just be harping on it and trying

(30:50):
to find every single angle and you know, doing all that,
and I'm like, here, I felt the reason why I
did bring it forward was not because I was trying
to destroy people's testimonies, because I had to be intellectually honest.
If I'm gonna say George Bush is bad because X.
I have to say, who are other influential people that
are part of X? Otherwise I am intellectually dishonest. I

(31:12):
am part of a cover up. And that's I just
can't do that. That's not honest. And so you are yeah,
so yeah, but you get.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You got a lot of crap for it, just like
I have. Like as soon as I started going down
not just this road but more of the secret society exposing, uh,
people stop working with me as much. Yeah, I don't
think that's a big thing. We've talked about this, you know.
And and because I have no sponsors and I don't
really care. Uh, it makes me a little bit of

(31:43):
a LUs Kennon. I guess for them, I don't know
that I behold to no one but God. So there's
that fun for them.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, there's controlled narratives, and they recognize that they're going
to be able to get their audience the size that
they wanted to be, they have to stay away from
certain narratives. And that's that's in the X ME as
well as the you know LDS community. That's it's just right.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
We've been persecuted in our own communities. You've been persecuted
in the literal LDS community that you belong to, and
I've been persecuted in the EXMO community that i'm kind of.
I mean, I'm not aligned per se because I'm not don't.
I'm not an atheist, so I don't really fit. You know.
They want you to be like, yeah, and I don't.

(32:25):
And that's okay. You know what, our narrow view of
things is what gets us in trouble because we're not
paying attention to everything around us, Like what is happening.
They're tearing down statues and they're they're throwing paint on
Brigham Young And I do think he was part of it.
You don't, but regardless, they're allowing that, but they're not.
They don't care about this. They don't care about this, right,

(32:46):
Oh okay, Well he was a racist, that's what they
were throwing paint on the statue for. Right, Like I
don't know what year that was, but I clearly remember
it because my grandma lost her mind and yeah, and
I'm just like, look, this is happening, but we're still
honoring Robert Elie. And if you look into Robert e

(33:08):
Leen and what he was up to through this whole
situation with the war. He was going up to Canada.
I've talked to many Canadians about this. You know, they're
planting certain people in certain places and it's very interesting
the little, you know, legacy he left behind. So no
wonder they're honoring him.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
The War States was like the Star Wars prequels, I
think is basically a allegory of that of that war.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Well in Stanford University set up by not a Mormon,
but she was a spiritualist. Uh uh. The Mormons branched
into spiritualism. Everybody forgets about the shattering after Joseph Smith died,
Like really this split into thousands of factions of people.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh yeah, Oh. Growing up, I thought it was r
LDS versus LDS and that's.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Me too, or FLDS. That was the only other one.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Three I didn't even mission.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I never heard of them, and I only heard of
Warren Jess but doubts because I was from southern Utah,
so like that was the one I knew. So that
was it, But I didn't know there were like Kingston's
and like people that dressed sort of normal and people,
I mean, there's so many of them, right, like you're
just like what and when you start finding out that,
you know, spiritualism became a huge part of it. You

(34:27):
talk about Robert E. Lee, Robert E. Lee has ties
to the people that literally funded the beginning of Stanford
because it's their family. It's their family, and they're working
with Brigham Young on the railroads and then they suddenly
die and they're super rich. And it was very strange
because first her son died of typhoid. You heard me,
you know the story war Mormon or I'm an ex Mormon,

(34:50):
but you know the story about Joseph Smith and typhoid.
So I'm sure she felt some sort of kinship there,
you know, but she regardless, she's part of it, just
like you know Skull and Bones and Jehovah's Witness is
fifth cousins, you know, the Huntington Russell whole thing. Like
that's just crazy. I mean, they're fifth cousins to Joseph
Smith and nobody talks about that, like, I mean, what's

(35:14):
going on here? That's every that's a whole bunch of factions.
And then we get into David M. Kennedy who's working
with the Jesuits and the Dark Illuminati, which you've already mentioned.
And why do I know that because he worked with Onassis.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Isn't David the David Kennedy's Center of BUYU?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Right?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Is that the David David M.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Kennedy? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Oh, and guess the David and M. Kennedy Center is
one of the one of three organizations that the Salt
Lake Committee on Formulations, a chapter of the CFR has
as an official affiliate with them. So so you have
so I mean, it's just that another connection from the

(35:56):
Kennedy name to the internationalists that everybody knows about.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Well, and everybody knows that there was obviously a conspiracy
when we talk about President Kennedy and you get into
PERMANDEX and who's on that board, all these people, all
of them, Like, if you guys know anything about PERMANDEX,
go look it up, go check it out. You will
see the names of all the different countries. We've got
mobsters and like royals mixed in with like roy Cohne.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Why why is that happening? Like what with Clay Shaw
with Clay and and it all ends up back into Daddy,
who ends up into a whole bunch of stuff who
ends up aligning with onasas who's aligning with you know,
all of this that we're talking about. Why Howard Hughes
is playing the other side and he probably really thinks
he was the good guy. You know. They do that,

(36:47):
like you said, like they're they're doing this Bolshevik revolution
on us twenty four hours a day.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well, that's there. There's presidents that the that the conspiracy apparatus,
whether it's government schools, whether it's the New was, every
media outlet. There are presidents that they like, like Kennedy,
like Lincoln, where they uh, basically idolize them and that
should that should tell us a lot. What's his name?

(37:15):
And so people want to claim that the that the
conspiracy wanted them dead because they were going against them.
The Corbette Report has actually done a very good video
debunking that with Kennedy that it's actually not true that
he was actually very much involved with it until his death.
He was a part of turning over the United Nations,

(37:37):
I mean the United States military over the United Nations,
and he was definitely an internationalist. And so then you
get into motive them and why did they get him?
You know, that's I think that's up for debate. But
I think what is what is if you look at
the actual data, what is not up for debate if
you look at the data, is that he was anti establishment.
He was not anti establishment well, and.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
He was in a secret society. I mean, like there's
pictures of him right doing the handshake with other people.
So wasn't it a Mormon?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Was that the first time you've seen that video? That picture?
Isn't you?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah? Yeah? I was like, wait what and who was
that with?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
David O McKay.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
David O McKay, that's right. And I was like, this
is crazy, Like why this doesn't make any sense? Like
if if you guys want to be like he said, like, oh,
it's just a it's just a jesuit. And I've talked
to a lot of people that are in those certain factions,
right like right, okay, this guy's like a jesuit guy
and he talks about this and this guy and you
try to have these conversations with them and open it

(38:36):
up to a broader this is a satanic uh one
percent weird thing. Like of all of them, they.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Get mad because really myopic?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, they want to like and I look, I'm like
the it's the Mormons. Girl, but like, no, it is,
but it's not. It's not your normal Mormon.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
There are people from every organization involved in the Satanic conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's just all yes, yes, and they're doing things that
are horrific. You know, right now, we know there's some
charges out there. We're not going to get deep into that,
but that there are out there. You can go to
ldsbus to check that out. He talks a lot about
this stuff. But some of these people are on some
of these organizations that have been accused of some pretty
horrific crimes, including George Romney, Garrett Gong, There's multiple other

(39:20):
people you know that have had like survivors come and
speak out and say, look, I mean the worst one
was George Romney, and it got buried. Everybody knows that
he was in trouble for stuff like that, and yet
his name kind of just got shuffled under the rug
there it still was able to go ahead. You know.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh, I hear all the time people are like, oh, yeah,
Mitt went south, but his dad was a good guy.
I'm like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Well, you didn't see his hunting stuff, and you didn't
read Kathy O'Brien's book, you guys, uh Kafy O'Brien's book
will open your eyes to old George. And and this
goes from like, you know, more conspiracy people like this
goes into other hunting like seat we already talked about this,
but for those late tuning in secret hunting organization like Hunting,

(40:11):
I'm like, well, okay, like you should probably be definitely
concerned about them, like we love animals so much, we
want to go kill them, Okay, whatever. And then we
get into process church people that are aligned with like
Charles Manson but still also weird Mormons, like we're gonna
say Mormons because they're not the normal Mormons, like the.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Best Friends Animal Society. Have you heard about that?

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Oh my gosh, I have, Oh my gosh, so that
you should tell me not.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
A no kill animal shelter. In my opinion, I think
that's you know too to you know, it's a cya,
But I think the data is very clear that that
is not what it appears to be on the surface.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, if you go to those ties like uh, Dana,
Dana does a lot on this, you know, on her
channel about all that, and I'm just like shocked. I'm
I was shocked, when I was like, wait, whoa, what's
happening over here in southern Utah? Why are they doing
wirdo satanic stuff over here?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Animal shelters? Insane?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah? Yeah, And then let alone what's his name? Levitt
gets on TV and says, I am not I do
not eat human beings.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Like oh, David, yeah, yeah, Like what.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Like what excuse me?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
What this thing? Wasn't he make public? Like nobody knew
about it except for him and you know, people in
the law enforcement community. And so he comes out and
like tells on himself it's bizarre.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
It was weird, and nobody asked him. It was almost
like he had like a download of a voice that
said something to him. Because I was like, bro, nobody
asked you, why are you saying that.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
It could have been you know, I think that there's
legitimate a claim that it could have been a humiliation
ritual where it was kind of like him moving his
way up because what happened to him nothing, He's out
and he bought a a castle in Scotland. And and
I know this is maybe a tangent from what we're
talking about, but but the David Levitt connection that is
is bizarre, is this guy that they just convicted of rape.

(42:15):
I'm having a blank on his name, but it was
it was it was the guy that was actually making
all of the documented claims against David Levitt. Oh and
so to protect himself, he changes his name and he
moves to England, to Scotland. And then as soon as
this stuff comes out, now they get a warrant to

(42:39):
arrest this guy and and accuse him of rape and
then extradite him from you know, from Scotland to the
United States, and you know, and so and where does
where does Levitt go? He goes to Scotland. Like it's
just all these weird connections that make no sense on
the surface. But if it's if this is actually a

(42:59):
way to just shut up one of his accusers, then
it makes right.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Oh, one hundred percent. And they do this. They protect
their brothers. You know. That's the problem with secret societies.
It's it's not just the one. It's not just this
one or the hunting clubs or the Processed Church or
Skull and Bones or whatever. It's why they are all
overtaking the world and everybody's just at home watching TV

(43:27):
and eating ice cream or whatever the heck we're doing. Look,
I like ice cream too, but I'm just saying we
have to pay attention because nobody's paying attention. This is serious.
Like I always joke around and it's sort of not
a joke. And I'm not saying every Freemason is bad,
but I'd always say it's the United States a Freemasonry, right,
And that doesn't mean all those factions are bad. Like

(43:49):
you've got porch Masons, just like I call them porch Mormons,
because you have all these normal people that have to
be involved to hide the top weirdness or like on
Thursday meeting when they go do their weirdo stuff. Wherever
they go, it's not going to be hidden. It's hidden.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I think of those more mainstream and more open type
of secret societies. That's accurate. But I think with the
Alfalfa Club and with Skull and Bones and with the
Bohemian Grove, that is absolutely not true. That is my
view is that every single one of them, you don't
get into that position unless you are a part of
that evil level.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Right, that's different. Yeah, you're right. The secret elect this
is like an elect group because like.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Especially the ones that are invitation only are a little
bit different than the ones that anybody can go find
a sponsor for and become a member of.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Right, yeah, we're not talking about regular people like where
Skull and Bones. You have to be tapped this club.
You have to be asked like this is.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Not your neighbor's not a member of alfalfa club that
they are. I would get some security, I would move.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
You should be very concerned and it and if you know,
you should probably fear for your life because you're supposed
to know. Right, that's the quiet part out loud. That's
why I'm surprised they let it out. Who who's in,
you know, kind of like the builder.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
So and that is a weird thing. And I think
that in some people will say, well, that's you know,
proof that it's not bad or it's not secret. And
I in our last interview that we did, I brought
up in the in the Book of Mormon, there is
a person that's ahead of the gany At and Robbers,
the secret society of the Book of Mormon, and he's like, yeah,
I'm the head of this. And so that doesn't mean

(45:33):
that the gany and Robbers were good guys. That doesn't
mean that they weren't a secret combination. It just says
that sometimes they they do say who they are, and
they just don't broadcast it to the world. They don't
you know what what what? What does the rate? What
is CNN? What is Fox News? What are the talking
heads on the radio? What did they focused on? Is
is the division? Is the wrestling match that they want

(45:55):
us to focus on because and then they can they
can let out these type of admissions and what it's for.
I think I don't have any documentation of where they've
admitted what it's for, but I suspect it's kind of
twofold where they there is some kind of eternal law
where they have to let us know who they are
so that we can do something about it. I think
that's part of it. And then you have another part

(46:17):
of it that is likely they are signaling to their
buddies who they are and what's going on, and so
you have kind of those different aspects of it. But
having confessions hidden here and there doesn't negate the fact
of what they are, and I think it's for us
to recognize that. Otherwise there is no secret society that's evil.

(46:39):
They're all, you know, on the up and up because
we can find documentation about them, which is just that's
just as silly as saying that murder doesn't exist because
people confess to being a murderer. I mean, it's just.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, that's a little bit much, you know. I just
think that when we look at this stuff and we
can clearly see it infiltrate in every single faction at
every single level, and then we have to look at
some things that happened this year. We all of a
sudden got a new pope from where Chicago? Right? I mean,

(47:13):
and then where's the profit from new profit? Where's he from? Well,
he's from here, but where'd he go and set his roots? Chicago?
And then we talk about another secret society which I
can't prove that he was in, but I can prove
that it was there when he was there, which is
Alan Snake. Isn't that funny? No documentation other than their logo,

(47:33):
It's all I can find. It's all I can find.
And I'm going, hmmm, that seems convenient.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
I mean, all of this stuff, when you look at
it and tear it down, like onnasas I did a
huge deep dive, I haven't like completely laid it all
out yet because I bit off more than I'll admit it.
I didn't know what I was getting myself into. I
will I will admit that because this book right here
is just the FBI documents on Aristotle Onassis. Okay, so

(48:10):
this is why that episode isn't out. But guess who
never lost a ship during the war? Oh lost the flowers?
Guess who never lost a ship ever? Aristotle Onassis? And
who did he fly under? He didn't fly under Greece.
He went to South America. Why would he do that?
Why would he do that? Oh? Well, there's reasons for

(48:31):
the things they do. That's that's period. When you start
digging into this stuff and you'll find things, like you
said here and there. It's not like they're advertising. It's
like every once in a while you'll hit some weird
little document you're like, what what does that say? Why
would they put that out there? They have to they
have to tell you what they're doing. It's called revelation

(48:53):
of the method. And in the magical world, in the
Kabbala system, in all of this, you have to under
understand that they have to sometimes tell you what they're
up to, which just sucks for them. I mean it's
great for me and you you.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Know, well, it's a great for everybody because we need
to know. We can't fix the problem if we don't
know what the problem is. And so it's vital for
us to be able to get this information. And so
it's one of those things. And you know I talked
about the biography of the Alfalfa Club. It's not available anywhere,
but we're going to be solving that where in the
next few months we're actually going to be publishing it

(49:30):
at Treeolibertysociety dot com. Right now, it's available in our
member portal, is a thank you for our supporters, and
so you can download and read it. And so it's
important for us to do this. I think it's really
and so we're going to make it more widely available.
We want to make it so it's not just you know,
a secret. Again. We want to make this so everybody

(49:52):
has access to it, so we can study and we
can learn, and we can know what it is from themselves,
what their plans are, because what they say about themselves
is wild. And you know, it's like to me, we
we think of what did the people like you know,
President of the United States that remember the skull and
Bones do. What did they do when they initiated in
skill and bones? What do these people like your George Bush's,
your New Gain riches, your your Nixon's, your Reagan's What

(50:14):
did they do at the Bohemian Grove? You know? And
nobody talks about these guys and they're bizarre satanic rituals,
and we're like these this, These are the people that
are going to tell us what I'm allowed to do
with my business. These guys are the ones that are
going to tell us if my child goes off to
war and gets killed for the New or Order. These
are the you know, it's it's if we understand what

(50:36):
these people are about, we're not going to obey them.
It's just it's nonsense. And so why it's the weird
beliefs of these Republicans and Democrats that are a part
of the Alfalfa club. I want to just as a
way to be able to kind of show you what
the what they're actually believing about themselves, me to read
to you just out of their own biography. It says

(50:57):
that one Babel when Babylon was invaded by the Semites,
which is placed as far back as five thousand BC.
It was really for the purpose of acquiring the archives
of the Alfalfa Club, which they knew contained such secrets
as would give them the power they desired. Okay, this

(51:18):
is this is what they believe about themselves.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
And they know it's not supposed to be seen. Right,
Yeah you found this, Yeah, you found this information. This
was not meant for regular people.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I public consumption information. This is what they wrote to
themselves about themselves. They wanted to let their members know
what why what they're doing is so important. It builds dedication,
it builds you know, all of the things that that
It builds that brotherhood, it builds that bond. And so
when you when you see that, you know you have
Laura Ingram, a Republican. You know, she's a conservative talking head,

(51:57):
she's an attendee of this organization, she's a member. I mean,
come on, we've got to start to look past what
people tell us and say, hey, what what's really going
on here? And it's I know, I don't want to
black black pill people because to me, black pilling is
a tool to get their eds to give up. But
we have to recognize that people are lying to us

(52:18):
and that we have to ask ourselves, is this cabal
going to allow their enemies to be popular on their
own networks that they control? Are they going, you know,
people say well so and so you just think everybody's bad.
I'm like, no, you're just mentioning well known people. If
people that are well known and they're promoted by the conspiracy, uh,

(52:39):
do you think the conspiracy is going to promote No.
There's this great video actually that I like that I
think kind of shows this point that the Daily Show
did actually where it was going over the two thousand
and eight election, and how when Ron Paul was in
second and third place, they never mentioned him. They just
skipped over him. And you know, I've got my questions
about Ron Paul, but I think that's a great example

(53:00):
of how the conspiracy works. They what do they do?
They shadow ban you, They don't give you free ads
on all of their you know, networks. They they don't
you know, scare you, help you grow? You know, please
smeare me CNN and I'll get huge. But so we
have to start recognizing how the tactics the conspiracy uses,

(53:22):
and so that we stopped falling for it.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
That's that's the jis well and The thing is is
when you brought up, you know, the CFR. Okay. At
the same time, the CFR was known by a slippitch Okay,
one of the most famous Mormons in Utah. Right. He
goes and gives the speech, and I, yes, he felt comfy.

(53:44):
This was via you that I learned this, right. It
was uh Huntsman, right, wasn't it was?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
He? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Absolutely, So he's giving a speech and feeling comfy about that.
At the same time, Huntsman is doing crap like this,
and the Council Foreign Relations over here we have Gay
William Okay, Bill Gay is what he's known as, actually
amping up Howard Hughes to be no communists, no black people,
no communists, no Commune. Okay. So this doesn't jive together, okay,

(54:16):
because one person is fighting for one thing. But then
what happens Huntsman and Gay combine HGCC and why would
that even work? I mean they're telling you the quiet
part out loud. When you watch the money just changing changing,
watch the money. Two people do not join forces in

(54:36):
a corporation with money because money is worth killing people
over not for me, but like for these people allegedly.
But you know, you wouldn't have Howard Hughes being chummy
with anybody on the CFR if it were real world. Right,
what's going on? Right?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Oh, there's a great book that I would recommend everybody
read called The Parastroika Deception, where this this guy that
left the Soviet Union, he defect it from the Soviet Union,
writes this book that of course nobody talks about, and
it says what Peristorika was about. So if you're around
in the eighties, I was too young at the time
to know was going on, so I had to read

(55:15):
it and know what happened in the past. But it
was about how the goal and this was going back
we're talking about you know, Whitaker Chambers in the fifties
is having this testified before Congress that the goal is
not really global communism where but it was the boogeyman.
But you know, the fight back in the day of
the Cold War, it was really and all these books
pointed out and the parastorical deception about what Gorbachev was

(55:38):
doing to pretend to westernize. It was a part of
the goal was to make the Soviet Union more capitalistic
and then in my America more communistic. So you can
merge the two together comfortably. It wasn't about, you know,
and so we have this basically a Chinese What the
Chinese government is doing right now is basically what they

(55:58):
want for the whole world, because because they've recognized that
if they can get people to be that dumb and happy,
then they can put over any kind of slavery they want.
But if it is stalinistic, total, you know, tyranny, then
people are going to resist and fight back. And so
this this comfortable merger where you've got enough wealth that

(56:20):
you can be happy, but they have enough power where
you're afraid to stand up against them, because then you
lose your home, your job, you know, all those things
that make your life comfortable. And so that's really what
what's always been about. And so when we think that,
you know, people always say, well, why would a rich
guy like Rockefeller fund the Communists? Well, because it helped

(56:43):
feed that basically that Punch and Judy show, that fake
WWF wrestling match, and you can.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Always have to fund both sides. Yeah, yeah, And people
were screaming out, like I will say again, LDS Abuse
points out, and I bought the book and I read it.
Whitso talks about in a sunlit Land, and I bought
this book and I felt I actually felt awful for
him because he was trying to say, it seems to
me that there's a conspiracy to overthrow Mormonism, like true

(57:16):
the true heart of the people. I think he was
a I mean, look, I'm not throwing every Mormon person
ever under the bus, nor will I ever say all
of them are bad, because I got nailed on that
just barely not very long ago on Alive, and I
won't do it because you don't know those people's hearts.
What we do know is that the top people are

(57:39):
probably mostly corrupt at this point. They were going corrupt
clear back when John Ay Whitso wrote this in like
what the nineteen hundreds, you know, and he said I
would be better off being a garbage man than a
teacher here, okay. And I think he was trying to say,
I'm very uncomfortable because there seems to be a conspiracy happening,

(58:00):
and he wrote this in a book, and I'm sure
they just, oh my gosh, I can't, I can't. Yeah, yeah,
I mean he was trying. He really legitimately, there's some
good ones, is what I'm saying along the way, there's
been some good ones that were like hey, and and
you'll see it with the prophets, right, look at the
ones that they were like, now, we're not Mormons anymore

(58:22):
because he's a kook, you know, and and crazy stuff
like you know, that's what that was about, you know,
because ezra'saph Benson. Though I think he started. I don't know,
he's he's an enigma, but I do think he tried
a little bit. Okay, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
They're all they're all in like political, they get risen
to political you know things. There's a whole book called
Mormons and the President's I would recommend people read that.
You know, I couldn't believe like the Ties, because ever
since I was a little girl, all I knew is
they oppressed us. They oppressed us, They oppressed like that's

(59:03):
all you ever hear. So you just grow up thinking
they're all bad and this is bad, you know, basically,
I mean, I don't know about you, but that's you know,
we have to be on our own and not in
the world, you know, like be of it, but not
in it. And they tell us this as little kids,
so part of you has to step back and go, okay,
but well, what's going on with that? Then? Like wait

(59:27):
a minute, you're why are you all in the CIA? Now?
Why are you as I've been nicely accused of lately.
Oh look, if I was in some three letter agency,
they certainly wouldn't let me be spouting off like this.
And and anyways, there's bear you.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Have at least subscribers, right, and.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
There's very few people that wouldn't even do this, right, Like,
we're kind of putting our ass on the line here,
and I'm just gonna say that we live in the
belly of the beast here and it's not comfy. Okay,
that's not a comfortable place to be as a believer
or a non believer. Far worse for me, But that's
my own thing. But I mean seriously, like you would

(01:00:09):
never want to do that because it's a very conformist state,
Okay it is. And and so if you do push
against the grain like you're doing, like, hey, I believe
in all of this, but this got like you know,
the gaddiat and robbers came in and hey, we need
to be paying attention. They don't like that. Why would
they not like that. If you're trying to save their church,

(01:00:31):
why would they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Not like that? Good question?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Good question? Yeah, why would they have a skull and
bones profit?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
And when it's brought up and one's asked them, why
am they instead of saying this is why they tell
you to shut up?

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
And why? The best one that I ever heard from you,
and it is from you and anybody that hears this
and has heard me talk about it before, why would
God be be allowed to bring the Federal Reserve here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Through Hebrew J Grant?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, yeah, why would that even happen? Why would that
be allowed to have a profit of God bring in
something that we've been told to abstain from, not to
be involved with their money, which the FLDS does to
this day, right, like bleeding the beast and all the things,
and like don't trust them. And granted there a lot

(01:01:22):
of them are crop now too, But I'm just saying
the reason why they split off, right, Like, okay, and
so why would that happen? You know? Weird? Yeah, it's
not a comfortable place to be, that's for sure. You know,
I think you probably said it the best, and I

(01:01:44):
know it comes from the Book of Mormons. So they're
gonna nail me for this because but secret combinations, you
know it, It just makes the most sense.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Like, honestly, we would they call it a combination conspiracy,
two or more people getting together in secret to do
e that's the definition. If you don't believe that that's real,
what am I gonna do? I mean, that's just that's
just stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Right, knock your head against the ball. You can't just
keep We can tell who wants to learn, But like
you said, we can't black pill because it doesn't work.
It just doesn't work. We can, yeah, we want to
present it's it, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
A solution, there's something to be done, and black pilling
just says there's nothing to be done, but wait for
it to collapse. I'm not I'm not a you know,
a rapture cultist, you know, I'm not the guy from
you know, I don't know where you're on on this.
But like with the Left Behind series, that's to me,
that's stuff to get that was created to get Christians
to stop in being engaged in the battle for freedom,
and because they think that well, the worst things get

(01:02:44):
that means the Savior's coming sooner. And so let's just
either that's let's not resist at all and make sure
that things you know that the well the tracks are
skitded for the return of the Savior, because wickedness equals
the return of Jesus and I don't believe that at all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Well, that's the abbatize Ev movement, right, that's the Zabatan
movement of sixteen sixty six, which is funny enough. You
know another year, Well that's when one of Joseph's great
great grandpa's was born. So it always makes me kickle.
Samuel Smith was born that year, and you know, he
was born in Salem. They're from Salem. They were very

(01:03:20):
you know, up in society people there, which people don't
even know that. But he didn't have anything to do
with that movement. It just triggers my mind for that.
But when people study this movement, this abatize Ev movement,
they will understand because people always say, like my poor mom,
she always says, how could people be so evil? Why
would they want to do that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
They think they're doing you a service. They believe that
they are going to bring the Savior, Like he said
that quicker if they do all manner of horrible satanic stuff,
including abusing their own children, you know, And I mean
we see it time and time again when.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
They infiltration in the Christian Church of that idea. It
was in the eighteen thirties with John Darby and he
was the one that rhythm in Scotland that really got
the ball rolling Schofield Bible, all that kind of stuff
to get people into this rapture.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Non and who financed that? Who financed the Schofield Bible?
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Talk a crown the crown. So they're always behind a
lot of things, not everything, because I think they are
the literally the shield, the right shield. That's so it's
not even their name, it's not their name. It's so
funny because everybody's like and they're Jewish and like, well,

(01:04:37):
I have news for you all. I am directly in
their lineage. And no they're not because I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
On tape. You're a rothschild.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yeah, no, I do. I come from the Medici line
I come from. They know, they know my messed up line.
It's yucky. I come from the house of Stuart.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Oh me too, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Oh so we're probably related.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Related somewhere, you know. I would say everybody's related probably
thirteen generations back as roughly as we're.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Well, especially here, especially well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And that's the thing too, is you know a lot
of times, you know there is connections, you have family
and that kind of stuff. But I think it's important
to state that just because you're related to somebody that's bad,
doesn't mean you're bad. My brother is an atheistic communist,
you know, you know that kind of I don't want
to I'm over generalizing, but he is definitely in He
is definitely in that direction compared to me. And so

(01:05:28):
we can even be siblings and be completely different.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Oh I'm one hundred percent different from my siblings. So
I get that completely. And you know that's okay. We
can all be different and still open our eyes to
the same crap because we have to align. Me and
you are very different. But we get along and we
talk about things that are like, oh, this is pertinent.
We're not going to talk about the things that we

(01:05:55):
don't need to talk about, right, I'm not going to
be like, hey, Ben, let's talk about all this bad
stuff in the temple. Like I'm not having that conversation
with you, Like that's weird. Why would I make you
feel weird, like, no, I'm not doing that, that's weird.
I can have my thoughts and you can have your thoughts.
And these people over here that you know are part
of whatever society that they're in, can have the end

(01:06:17):
to atheists and just everybody. But one thing's for sure.
If you love your kids and you want to have
a better world to live in, you better start listening
because this is getting out of control. Children cannot afford
to leave their parents anymore, people cannot buy homes anymore, period, period.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
My design, this isn't by accident.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Yes, and I agree with Jesus loves you guys because
we are both Christians. So that is absolutely true.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
So that's gonna get Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Wow, I'm sorry. I don't think Ben's not a Christian
Like I'm not going to ever do that. You cannot
generalize a populace just because of one certain thing like I.
That's not fair. That's not fair.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I've said this time that we talked was the same
thing about Mormons and how you know they don't want well, A,
they don't want to use that term anymore, and B
you know, if you're a different faction of Mormon, you're
not a Mormon, you know, and so you have all
kinds of nonsense amongst every denomination, and they they have
this gate keeping of only these people are Christians, only
these people are Mormons.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
And yep, they do it on purpose because the factions
within the factions within the factions. And if you start looking,
look look at the Quakers. Go look at the Quakers
and see how they started versus where they are now.
Go see who they align with. Like, let's be real,
I'm just picking on one random I'm just picking a
random out of the air. Okay, They're just kind of random.

(01:07:43):
But they show up in the CIA just as much
as the Mormons do, and they're certainly aligned.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I've never heard anything calling the same the Quakers on Christians.
Maybe there are, but.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Yeah, yeah, not that I know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Kirk Cameron's in a lot of trouble recently among Christians.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
And I mean about like them saying where the Quakers
are kind of benevolent and innocent and the honors and
you know, like no, no, no, no, no, you need
to go read history books. I don't mean online all
the time. Go get a book. Get books, like what
Ben's talking about. He's said about six books on here,

(01:08:20):
and I'm sure on his website he's got all kinds
of information for you guys. He does, you know, webinars,
he does all kinds of stuff like this is not
like a one and done thing. We're probably gonna talk again,
I hope. And you know, he has all this stuff
lined out for you guys to have, like a whole
learning course if you want, and his book as well,
which I highly recommend I read, so you know, I

(01:08:42):
will never put a person up here or take a
sponsor that I don't actually and promote their stuff if
I don't agree, or I'll say this is their book,
but it's not my opinion. I read his book, it's
my opinion. It aligns, and I just don't don't care
anymore about who that's going to get us in trouble with, right, Like,

(01:09:04):
what how much worse can it be for either one
of us? We're both on the outskirts. I mean, nobody,
nobody really accepts us in there, so who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
A Certain tables I wasn't meant to sit at, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Right, especially not the Alfalfa Club table. So did we
miss any highlights there or any other?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I think those are good highlights. I think that's I
think it shows what it's about. And you know, if
I'm hoping that people that watch this will share it,
because why is nobody else talking about this? I think
that just that's just needs to be We need to
fix that because it makes no sense. And if you
can explain to me why nobody else is talking about
you're like, well, yeah, just because I'm open, I'm all

(01:09:45):
ears because to me, it makes no sense. If you're
talking about the bohemian growth, you're talking about scumbones, you're
talking about CFR, talking about Builderberger's, but you're not talking
about the Alfalfa Club. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Missed it? You missed it? Yeah, you're missing something and
they hope you do, and they hope you do. And
so I'm sure when you look, because you've got the
list and he's got this available for if you go
subscribe to his website, you could go see the whole
thing and buy his book. It's in there, like he's
got this in places. We're not doing that on here.
That would be weird all all the way around. We'll

(01:10:19):
mention a few names here and there, but neither one
of us email me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I'll send you the file how about that. You know,
I'm we're going to gatekeep. Just send me the send
me your email banet treelibertyside dot com and I'll send
you the file.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
IM.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
We're not gonna hide it. We're not going to gate
keep it. But I do like to give thank you
for those that support our work make sure that we
can keep doing this, because if we didn't get that support,
we couldn't exist. It's just the just the truth of
the matter.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
That's the way life goes. But when you were looking
at that list of people, Okay, what did you see?
I bet religion wasn't always in common. I bet they
were different as different can be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Parties were always different. I mean it was. It was
a good mix of Democrats, Republicans. You know, positions in
the already very different academia, I mean different businesses, competing businesses. Right,
you have banks that are supposed to be in competition
with each other. Beloney, you have all of these things

(01:11:12):
that they pretend to be in competition, whether it's in
politic political competition or business competition. They are monopolists one
hundred percent, but they're in the monopoly and so they're
allowed to have their different You know shops within their
monopoly exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Yeah, it's all a big club. They're all in it,
even when they pretend like they're not. I think the
best allegory there is your World Wrestling, you know WWF
as we called it when we were young. I don't
think it's sad anymore. But show. Yeah, yeah, it's all
a big show and it's a little bit silly. So

(01:11:54):
for those of you that just came in, I want
to just recap really quick. We're talking about the Alfalfa Club.
It is a very small, very secret society that has
some of the most influential people that you would be
surprised on this list of very few people, two hundred people,
he said, you cannot join. Don't think you can go

(01:12:17):
ask and knock on the door of the Alfalfa Club.
They don't want you. This is a pharaoh society that
does practices magic. They practice the ancient rights, you know,
Babylonian magic. It always goes back to Babylon, doesn't it.
It's absolute funny. Why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
I was trying to show the PDF. See if that
doesn't work again? Oh yeah, you can share okay? Wrong? Oops,
Oh that's why I did the wrong thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Okay, yeah, it would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
There we go. Okay, so this is this is a
scan of the book. I'm not making it up. This
isn't just nope, this is the legit what's going on
with the Alfalfa Club. This is their biography and being
able to find the scan. And if you look into
who h Ralph Burton was, then it'll start till you'll
start to say, oh, okay, this isn't just you know,

(01:13:08):
somebody just making up stuff for kicking giggles. It's legit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Well, you guys better check this stuff out because if
we don't come together, we're always going to be fighting
this Bolshevik revolution. And don't forget they fund both sides.
They love it when we fight. Right, let's fight some
more about color and you know, religion and whatever. Okay,

(01:13:33):
it's all baloney because they know there's more of us
than them, and they know if we actually stood up,
they might have a real big problem. So and not
in a violence way. I'm just talking about taking our
own authority back of course. So yeah, Ben, will you
anything else you want to recap?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
We just to go to a Tree of libertysociety dot
com sign up for our text alert, so that way
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just last Monday. Every Monday night we do a live

(01:14:12):
training for members, and last Monday we went into the
creation the history of false or controlled opposition, and so
just showing you how far back it goes. We're talking
thousands of years, the principle of how it's used, and
so it's we go into detail into these principles so
that we can be better prepared to do what it

(01:14:34):
takes to be, like you said, take the power back
to ourselves and to be able to really resist what's
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Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Wonderful. I definitely recommend, like I said, his book to
check that out. One of the best things that ever
happened to me was I found you scrolling about Romney.
That was how I found you. And so you know,
it's not as hidden as as one might think, but
it took a lot of digging. It was like about

(01:15:16):
ten searches in really honestly, And so that just frustrates me.
I just feel like you, you know, data is data,
and we cannot argue about data. We have to understand
that that is a non biased tool for you to
understand the game. It's like the instructions for the game,

(01:15:39):
and banking banking records as well, are like the instruction
for the game, because you don't understand, like you, if
you don't see the whole picture, you're always going to
be lost fighting a non winnable battle. Like that's not
where we want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
We want to game. You think they're going to wayne them,
Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, that's for sure. I
hate to be so blunt, and it is what it is.
But I just you know, I love what I thought
America was before I knew what America was, and that
is sad to me. That actually makes me sick because
I remember being a little kid and standing up and thinking,

(01:16:25):
you know, when I did the pledge or whatever, feeling
so patriotic, and now I feel like sad. I know
that's terrible, but it just I don't know what else
to say there. You know, we have to remember what
what we deserve, and that is definitely freedom, and this

(01:16:45):
isn't that. You know, they are driving us into the
ground right now and trying to make us as poor
as possible, so you can't even you know how that
comment is, you're so poor you can't even pay attention. Oh,
welcome to your fifteen minute city plan. Yeah, that's sad.
I don't want to be there. I don't like that.

(01:17:08):
And I'm just a contrarian and was kind of an alace.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
That's something I that I don't want to be the
most informed person in the concentration camp.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
That's right. That doesn't no good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yeah, I don't want to be in there with you
saying I told you so, and like we've got to
start doing something about it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Is the key, yes, yep. And it's not one side
or the other like people are saying, you know, it's
the Democrats, it's this, it's that. No, no, it's all
of them, because they all go to this dinner and
their buddies. And it's not one side or the other,
not just this one. There's so many things, but we
won't get into that. It's not a Red versus Blue.

(01:17:50):
It honestly is evil versus not. That's what this is.
And as Ben has so gracefully put it multiple times,
this is a Satanic conspiracy. And so I, for one,
I don't want to align with Satan, Like that's not
for me. Call me crazy, but I know he does

(01:18:12):
a lot of things for people. Do you see what
it looks like on the other side, You know it's
not good. But yeah, anyway, and and it doesn't mean
that I don't have Ben, and I can definitely tell
you we have very traditional values, like we were raised Mormon, like,

(01:18:32):
very traditional values. I'm definitely no Blue aligned person like
that just doesn't fit me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah, I'm not like going on Ronnie because I think
that the Democrats are better.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
No, no way. And actually Joe Biden isn't he a
part of this club as well? Speaking of so it's
all of them. It's both. It's like Democrats and Republicans,
it's all of them. Very interesting. Mm hmm. Well I
have one last question. Do you see any way that
they recruit certain people. Do they go into you know,

(01:19:09):
like other schools or any of that stuff, like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
People with with these things they with the conspiracy because
just like with Skull and Bones, so you just have
like an adult version of that type of an idea
of they look at individuals, their family, you know, what's
their history, what is what is the potential for them
to serve the agenda of that organization. And so as
an adult, you know, to be considered for things like

(01:19:35):
the Alfalfa Club or the Bohemian Club, they have to say, okay,
have you have you been can you bring us success?
And because you've been successful in academia, you've been a
successful in business, you've been successful in government at that
then because you've proven that you can be of service
to the conspiracy, then they'll recruit you. And so that's

(01:19:57):
and then and so you have you have that ass
of it. But then you do have another aspect of
it where because of who you are, then they invite
you in and they prop you up. And so you
have those two angles to it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Is it very familiar like is it usually down family lines?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Or you do have a lot of that, I mean,
but it's not always like you know, Obama's mom and
dad were not a part of the alfalvel Club.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Okay, yeah, I was just curious. It seemed very strange.
You know. I did a little looking into Obama's dad.
He has some more the well the grandpa actually, I
guess it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Was on the on the mom's side.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Uh huh he uh. He has some very interesting Mormon ties.
Did you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
I didn't know that interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
I didn't know that either. I decided to look him
up because somebody said something about him being a little strange,
and I thought, ah, he looks like strange, you know how, Yeah,
you can see like sometimes people look Mormon. I know
that sounds weird, but there was a lot of reading
at the beginning, like I'm sorry, it just was what
it was. He looked Mormon to me, and I said,

(01:21:06):
I wonder, And I went into my own genealogy and
found him and I was like, yep, there you are. Wow, Yep,
it was pretty easy find. It was interesting. So I
just think that, you know, people need to look about
Jacko Island. People need to look about the Federal Reserve.
People need to look about this, They need to look
at all of it like we really need to look

(01:21:27):
at who sold our country down the river. Yep, that's
the truth. Sorry to say, guys, So once again, thank
you so much to Ben. We're going to sign off here.
I appreciate everyone watching. It was just a last minute
live stream. We weren't sure, but we just decided to
go for it, so it was fun. Thanks again, Bye
you guys, See you next time.

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244. Alfalfa Club, the secret society you have never heard of!

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