247. The Magi, DMT & The Star of Bethlehem

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm awake, are you. I wonder how many miles I've fallen.
It seems I'll get to the center of the earth. Curious,
isn't it? And really nothing is quite impossible. Let's go
now to our new episode of the Unfiltered Rise with
me heid.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
He love Hian. Welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today my returning beautiful, amazing, fantastic, intelligent,
lovely bestie, Miss heidis with me again. Hello Dolly.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
If you had a friend like Janet, you would always
just feel amazing. Thank you, Janet. That was wonderful. I
love you in all those ways. I'm not nearly as
good at that as you.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, that's what we're here for, right, is to lift
each other up and be wonderful people in the process.
That's why we get along so well.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
But he's got to do that, right, because that's so
much depression.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
A little bit, a little bit, but that's okay, because
you know what, we got our own corner of the
world going on over here, and I'm happy.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Wheah, just fine. Boys, So yes, I said boys, true words.
It's a boys club and we're not in it.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
But that's okay because the Girls Club rules. You know,
today is an uper interesting topic that could go down
so many different pathways, whether it be light pathways or
dark pathways, that is yet to be seen. So today

(01:50):
we're going to be talking about DNA, d MT and
the Star of Bethlehem and howl that all ties together.
And believe it not, ladies and gentlemen, some of these
things actually tie in with our previous episodes as well.
So hmm, it's gonna be a thought provoking episode.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I hope as a shit show.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well it might be. It might be one of those shows.
Who knows, we will find out.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
However, we're gonna go there.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, I'm just gonna throw this out, like from the
get go, the month of December or wintertime, especially especially
coming from the healthcare industry, you see a ton of
people with seasonal effective disorder and depression and stuff like that.

(02:49):
And I don't know why it is, but Christmas seems
to be the most depressing holiday for most people. Right,
So winter months and the depression that sinks in and
all of those things. Because the days are shorter, our
circadian rhythm changes, because it gets darker earlier, it gets lighter, earlier,

(03:13):
you know, all of those things, and so that can
throw everybody off and out of balance. And sometimes I'm
just going to say, bring out the cuckoo cuckoo too
in people.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Some people they joined the Cuckoo Club.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So they could been on one of the plan of
the Cuckoo's episodes. So for people that don't know what
we're talking about, with circadian rhythm, that's like your internal
clock that monitors like when you're supposed to wake up,
when you're supposed to go to bed, when it's day,
when it's night, like all of those things. And it's

(03:53):
like your body's masterclock that keeps you in balance and harmony.
And so with the time change, how many times had
you talked to people that go through the time change
when they got to jump forward or spring back with
their clocks? And it makes people a little it really does.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I don't think they should do it anymore, unless, like
you live in a farming community, like I don't know,
they petitioned for that here where I live, to not
do it anymore, but then somehow we're still doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
No, I remember when it was in front of Congress
that they were going to do away with that like
forever and permanently make it a thing, and then it's
like just kidding, Yeah, we're not really going to talk
about that. So it's interesting because your circadian rhythm has

(04:50):
a lot to do with your pineal gland, right, and
your pineal gland is what manufactures the melatonin and all
of that stuff, So that changes to your melatonin changes,
and so like anytime somebody wants to like check their
melatonin levels, it's kind of like other hormone levels that

(05:14):
fluctuate with time periods throughout the day. And so your
melatonin is going to rise between eight and ten PM
because that's what your body's telling you that you need
to go to sleep, peaks around two to four am.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Hello me.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
That is usually when my body wakes me up and
is like, you know what, your bladder is full, you
should get up and get out of bed.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, at least once.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, never fails, right, And so by the morning time,
that's when your melatonin falls like drastically because your body's
supposed to wake up and that's all part of that
you know, normal clock. So if you're one of those
people that ignores your circadian rhythm and does your own thing,

(06:06):
and stays up till two o'clock in the morning and
then sleeps until you know, one o'clock in the afternoon.
I could understand why you might be we teensy off weird.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. Can you see this picture? Okay of this pineal gland.
I don't know, so I think it's very cool. This
next picture, it's a walnut, it is, But look at this,
I'll see it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Isn't that interesting? This was my favorite picture I found
for this episode. I was like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Well, but it actually makes a lot of sense in
the grand scheme of things, and hopefully people are watching,
we'll catch on to this and where we're going with us.
So keeping in mind that some people, like I said,

(07:07):
don't pay attention to their normal bodies, rhythm and stuff,
and that's not for you know, it's not necessarily people
that work night shift because they can't help, but that's
what you work. But jet leg or people that are
late gamers or doom scrollers on social media, those are
things you can help but don't. Right, Yes, So the

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interesting thing in your body now we're gonna talk about
d MT, so not the trippy kind that you can
go and do with the shaman in the woods, right.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I mean not this kind right here.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Not the uber trippy kind of d MT. Right. Your body,
believe it or not, actually manufactures DMT on its own. Now,
in all my years of being a nurse, did I
know this?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I did not. I'm the first to admit it. And
I was like, what your body makes DMT? And I
was uber shocked and uber interested to learn about that
because I was not aware of that. I've never read
that in a book, a textbook and training or in
school like none of that. It was not a thing.

(08:31):
I didn't teach that because it wasn't in any.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I never even heard about DMT until until basically the
one that made it famous right right here. I didn't
hear about this. I don't know that I want to
fill this ever, like it sounds insane unless it comes
on naturally, like we're going to talk about today, and
maybe you know, since I have had some close calls,

(08:58):
maybe I already have, But I'm just saying that, I mean,
do you really want to know what it's like right
as you're checking out? Like I know?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
And that's why the deeper we get into the episode,
I'm going to bring up some things that I have
talked to somebody else about that was in the occult
side of things, And I'm like, what, No, Like, absolutely not,
do I want to go there? No, And some people
do this repeatedly, over and over and over again. Now

(09:32):
we're talking about the actual experience with the shaman or
doing stuff on your own, oh whatever. But it's very
different than what your body makes. Yes, I'm just saying.
So there's two enzymes in your body that actually helped

(09:55):
to manufacture your body's own DMT, which who knew and
it's AA d C, which is aromatic l amino acid,
uh decarbioxylase. Didn't also didn't know what that was. And
then another one called I n MT, which is endull

(10:18):
in methyl transferase. But your body actually has several organs
that play a part in making the d MT, which
I thought was pretty cool. Now of course, uh, big
blinking sign. Your brain is the first one which makes

(10:42):
complete and total sense that your brain is the one
in charge of this trippy drug that your body makes.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Right, I just had some turkey, so this is also
involved exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Tripped avan is definitely because those two chemicals that I
mentioned before, they they mix with that, and they cause
the methyl and the and whatever causes trip to mean,
so that sounds trippedy on its right.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Funniest episodes ever of the of this show. I don't
know if we can find Yeah, hopefully we can.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh, well I did.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's funny, but I you know, this one in the
KFC one is probably two of my favorite. Oh and
the soup Nazi.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
People that don't know what we're talking about. Turkey has
tripped a fan in it, and tripp to fan is
what makes you like almost comatosed after you eat. So
it did not know that, now you do. Yes, so
your brain, since it manufactures everything relating to d MT.

(11:55):
It has to do with your neocortex, your hipocampus and
the panel land and so there has been lots of
rat studies that they have done to measure DMT levels
and the brains, and they said that it's comparable to
serotonin levels, and serotonin levels is what either balances you

(12:20):
out or makes you like hyper excited. So interesting that
that that has been around for a while and I
still never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
No me either. This has all been a new I mean,
since they've figured out how to replicate I think.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's very interesting to me. So the next organ that
helps to produce DMT is the lungs, and so it
says human lung tissue has some of the highest levels
of that I NMT chemical expression in your body. So
your lungs are a major contributor two DMT production. And

(13:04):
I guess that's because of the oxygen that we take
in and how it's broken down in the lungs and
processed in the lungs, So that would be my guess.
So the pineal gland as well, and so the pineal
gland has both of those chemicals. That means that conditions

(13:28):
coexist for the synthesis actually in the pineal gland itself,
so that's kind of cool. And then it says also
peripheral organs, so your adrenal glands, which makes perfect sense
because they also produce cortisol, which changes people's mood and
behavior and stuff. Your thyroid gland, which is a master

(13:52):
regulator for your body, your immune cells, makes perfect sense.
And even your retin an I tissue make DMT.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, me neither. So we're learning along with everyone else today.
So school is in session, ladies.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
True, don't make Jennet get the ruler.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
So uh yeah, I could use that for another series
at another time.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
That's true, very true.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
So researchers nowadays think that DMT is actually part of
the body's immune and stress response system, which is pretty cool.
That DMT is actually what's helping us to regulate whether
we get you know, sick or not. So it's kind

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of cool. So the picture she brought up says DMT
this spirit molecule revolutionary research into the biology of near
death and mystical experiences.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Wild and I think it's very cool. The reason why
I picked this particular picture is because where we're going
to go in a minute, and all the eyeballs.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I was like, oh, right, well, which makes sense because
we make d M to our retina and our eye
tissue and so the all seeing eye, and then it.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Transfers maybe to your pineal gland with your consciousness, your awakening.
So in teresting in terra sante, So when does the
body release DMT. So studies have been conducted that say

(15:57):
that it spikes during one what during brim sleep. So
the most RESTful, restorative, reparative sleep that your body can get,
your body is actually releasing DMT. That's why dreams for
a lot of people are highly visual. People remember their

(16:21):
dreams because the more visual that they are, the more
people remember them. I personally rarely remember dreams.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Do you know what I do when I take benadryl,
of all things? But that makes sense if it's increasing.
I don't think I have very much melatonin when I
got my DNA. Whatever thing done, it gives you kind
of your silly traits, you know whatever, you like chocolate
more than vanilla, blah blah blah. It said. I do
not require as much sleep as other people, and I

(16:54):
know that's true. And that's why I've been able to
do night shift for twenty seven years, or I would
not be able to because how I survive and be
a mom still is I force myself to wake up.
I get up early, and then you know I'm able to,
like go still do the things. You know.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, I could not do what you do because there's
no way that I would function well now at my
age on a night shift.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Can't do it, defulley, rough, definitely rough.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Can't do it. Boy. I'm telling you what. I must
be getting old because it was very difficult for me
to stay up till nine pm last night. Oh no,
So outside of your highly vivid dreams during rim sleep,
lots of DMT is also released in a lot of

(17:48):
near death experiences. So people that have had near death
experiences and they can explain to you viv what they saw,
what colors they saw, the whole nine yards makes perfect sense.

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Or people that say that they saw the bright light right.
All part of the experience.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Depends my mom, so she doesn't mind me sharing. But
it wasn't a great experience. I chose this particular picture
because instead of the bright at the end, she saw
a lot of this purple. But it also wasn't a
naturally occurring situation and so that's probably why. And also
she said she would never do that again, stear the

(18:37):
holy shit out of her, and she never did.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You know what's funny is a lot of people that
have the similar story to what you just described all
talk about seeing purple.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I hate the color purple, but I think I
have had enough near death on accent. I had a
hypertensive episode during surgery once. It was super bad, right
even as a little little kid. I had a horrible burn,
requiring skin grafts and hospitalization. All this stuff, and so

(19:14):
I think maybe there's something in there that maybe I remember.
Maybe I just have an aversion, you know, at this point.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
And it may be because it may be your body's
natural protection, like suppressing those memories of that so that
you don't have to relive that over and over again,
because granted it's a terrifying experience anyway. And then especially
shrouded in the color purple and doesn't exactly doesn't purple

(19:45):
have no cult meaning?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I yeah, I do believe it does. I would have
to look at that to be sure, because I know
the colors are really important to them. Steiner goes really
into the colors. But I can't remember offhand, but I've
always hated I mean, since I was a young girl,
maybe that color blue. Now I love blue, but ye.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Say, I'm not a purple fan either, and maybe it's
from a past experience of me as well. So interesting.
So the next one is highly interesting of when when
a lot of DMT is released birth, birth of children,
or trauma events. Now trauma, I can definitely see that,

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but I can honestly tell you I don't.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Know how they know.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't recall releasing a lot of d MT when
I had my child.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, with the children, I'm like, was this with the children?
I mean I could see it, but like, how would
they not? I mean maybe I would hope they're not
doing very strange testing.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
On somebody's in labor and the doctor or researcher standard
no room going do you see any bright colors?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Right? Or like my scary thought was for the baby
and that and doing EEGs as they're born. And I
could see it because oh, yeah, you have the ability
to put the head leads on and it measures a
lot of things, and I would not doubt that it

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measures other things if they wanted it to.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, that's that's crazy. And so, uh, trauma, I can
definitely understand, because again, your body goes into the fight
or flight stuff and you're releasing you know, high liberals
of cortisol and dopamine trying to you know, dull your
pain and like all kinds of things. So could I
understand that. Yes, Again, I still don't get the childbirthing.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I could honestly say no, it just hurt and it
wasn't a euphoric experience.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Right now, I had one at home and I did
that whole thing, and people were like, oh, didn't you
feel great afterward? And I can say this, like during
the moment, no, but I did get that rush of
endorphins after the fact, like what the hell is that?
Thanks right? And I just wanted to clean the house.
But I was like, Okay, that's great, I'm tired. I

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guess I'm going to clean the house now.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I did not want to clean the house. No, I
did not. So the thing with the birth and the
trauma that I find it interesting is that they said
that the DMT helps with consciousness transitions and emotional imprinting,
so maybe it is more on the infant than it

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is on the mom.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Like that, because you know, we quit seeing all that.
I was a four set delivery, so was my husband.
It was pretty common back then, and they kind of
cut it out. You know, they do use the vacuum
if they absolutely have to, but as an ellen D
nurse for years in years, I only saw that maybe twice. Ever,
they've really backed off of that because I imagine what

(23:10):
you're saying.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Got to get the salad tongs out right.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, we don't want to be making kids anymore in
tune spiritually, because you know, they're trying to wreck that
for everybody.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And that may be that may have a huge role
to play in it because researchers are like, uh oh,
we better like cut this out because you know, oh yeah,
who knows.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I want to make no gifted kids.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah no, And so now they just want to use
the vacuum extractor and suck all that you know, good
stuff out of them.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
So the next thing is through meditation, fasting, and ecstatic states.
So during these times, high gamma brain waves correlate with
high psychedelic activity. And I will tell you if you

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are super into fasting, and especially if you do like
a three day fast, your body goes into autophagy and
that's where you're you're burning off all of the stuff
and so you experience like extreme mental clarity and all

(24:29):
of that stuff during a longer fasting period. Now a
lot of people like me all fast twenty four hours,
but usually when you do a two three day fast,
that's when you hit the autophagy stage where it's like
everything goes whoah, like all the world brightens up, and you.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Know you have like you took an adderall yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Like you have creativity and you have plenty of energy.
And your mind is sharp and focused and whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Which shaking that Janet No, I take it a couple
of times because I clearly have ADHD. And I'll tell
you I was like, I was like, whoa, I can't
be uh being Heidi like this this is way too
bright outside. The colors are brighter the things. I was like,
this is not for me.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, So it's like any type of math and venamine
use or something. That is why people take it because
of the vividness and the clarity of everything. But yeah,
fasting will put you in the same thing and your
body because it has rid itself of all of the

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toxins and the excess sugar and carbs and whatever. That's
when your body is like supercharged and hypercharge and it's
like ready to go. So for all you that's.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
With the tunnel. This one cracked me. I was like,
they're just chucking people down the tunnel.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, sometimes they're like, go to the light, you need help.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Oh boy, scary. I hope you don't stay down at
the bottom there.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
So that chucking people to the light kind of goes
with the last time that your body releases DMT and
that's right before dying or your organs shut down completely.
So hmmm, yeah, so it says they think that DMT

(26:35):
helps the brain remain conscious during extreme oxygen loss, and
so you know, like your organs are shutting down and
DMT takes over and you're like, oh, I lost my kidneys.
This is not so bad, right.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's fine, it'll be fine, Ray, Everything's good. Man. This
has got to be the filling you feel when you're
in the tub filled with ice cubes and they're harvesting now.
Just kidding.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, that's the whole other show too, darn it.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
So the interesting thing is why does the body make DMT?
And so they don't really know, they don't understand, but
what they have figured out, or they think they have
figured out, is that it plays a very important role

(27:32):
in visual processing. Hence the retina and the eye tissue
making DMT. And because we take in all forms of light,
whether it's sunlight, blue light, you know, fluorescent light or whatever,
all goes in through our eyeballs and then it transfers
into the nervous system and all of that stuff. And

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that's basically what runs our body, right is light. So
DMT may help the brain create the internal imagery and
so if you didn't make DMT in your body, would
you still be able to actually see out of your

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eyeballs like what you're actually seeing? Kind of trippy, kind
of trippy. So also it's in near death survival episodes,
and so they think that DMT actually works to protect

(28:37):
your neurons during times of extreme stress or again oxygen deprivation.
So it's a neuro protectant, which is kind of trippy
to think about that it's a neuroprotectant. But people that
go on DMT trips of the outside your body type,

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those are times of extreme stress because people will tell
you like they're being chased by things, or something is
clawing at them or or whatever. I've heard all kinds
of crazy stories from people that have been on a
DMT trip.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I've heard good and I've heard bad. I've heard a
lot of talking to angels or demons a lot.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, I don't I will pass on the talking to
the demons part.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't want to take away that they're going into
a realm where they do not belong. Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
One hundred percent. Which leads us to the next thing
is that it works for spiritual or mystical perception, and
so that's where people get. Of course, the out of
body experiences. The entity encounters spiritual revelations like people or
like oh I found myself, I know my purpose and

(30:04):
my plan and whatever. Or they have deep emotional memory
access and so they can access things that their subconscious
has suppressed for long periods of time. But I would
just want to say this, So is this like related

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to the angelic visitation psychosis that we talked about on
the last show, or are people really having a spiritual awakening?
So is it higher enlightenment versus demonic activity attachments, et cetera,

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et cetera. Or think about people with sleep paralysis. A
lot of people who come back from DMT trips, we'll
talk about having sleep paralysis.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, no thanks. I don't want to remember the things
that shouldn't be there. That sounds like a bad idea for.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Me, one hundred percent. Kind of like those Oh I
can't remember what they're called. There's some kind of glasses
that I have, like the purple Do you remember what
I'm talking about? Some kind of purple lens or something,
and it's supposed to help you see like demons and

(31:31):
stuff around you and I'm like, oh hell no, no, no, Like,
can you imagine how fearful you would be every single
day after encountering that. I mean, so why would you
want to go on a trip to trip yourself out?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Well, and we know it's true, Like, look, the Bible
tells you it's true if you believe in the Bible,
you know, if you believe in the Torah, if you
believe in like all these people say the same stuff,
even Joseph Smith. So I'm just saying, you know, maybe
you don't want to end up like John d and
Joseph Smith and all the people, because none of them

(32:08):
met a very great end. I mean chucked out of
windows raising their friend's kid, like, I don't know, doesn't
sound great to me, but.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Whatever, Yeah, I think that will be a hard pass
for me. Like you do your thing, I'll do my thing.
We'll just leave it at then.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
So with the immune regulation, with the DMT, it interacts
with different things and it stabilizes your cells and works
to reduce inflammation. And so not only is it neuroprotectant,
anti inflammatory, and it's a chemical bridge between consciousness and biology,

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which is actually kind of cool because it's one of
those fearal good chemicals, like you know, with the dopamine
and all of that stuff, and the serotonin and all
of those things working together. But who knew that all
this time your body was working with DMT production as well.

(33:15):
I'm like shocked, I'm floored. I honestly am I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I didn't know that as well.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
So what is the connection with the paneal gland. So
your paneal gland has the quote unquote machinery to manufacture
the DMT because it produces the melatonin, and it's deeply
connected with your circadian rhythm, your dream states, and spiritual experiences.

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And so they consider the paneal gland to be the
quote seat of the soul, which what do secret societies
and ancient next and things like that talk about.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, trying to take it out and put it in
somebody else, that's for sure, you don't. You want to
live forever.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
And so because this is considered the quote seat of
the soul, it's in the Kabbola, it's in Verdict text,
it's in uh what is it, Dickcarte m H. It's
in all of these different texts where they talk about
the paneal gland and how important it is, and and

(34:33):
your paneal gland, you know, when it's open and it's
not calcified, that's when everything is like vivid and you're
creative and you know all all of the things. You
have critical thought process which is so important, and what
happens when that's calcified, All of that goes away and

(34:56):
you it would be easier suppose that scientists and researchers
knew that if they could do things to cause classification
of the pineal gland, how dumbed down society would be,

(35:17):
and how much easier we would be to control if
we couldn't form thoughts and and critical processes on our own.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Right, So that's what that's what one of our other
shows was. He was trying to make him a little
slave like that, mister Dahmer spooky m hm.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
So you know they're working on that. You know, that's
been in the works for a long time, and all
of all the way back like the picture that you're
showing again, like Egyptian times and whatever. So this is
not a new thing that they're focusing on. That third eye, right,

(35:59):
that's your third.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Eye, yep. Absolutely, So you.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Emotional and neurological cocktail. Holidays of course, for a lot
of people bring grief in nostalgia thinking about the past
traditions they don't do anymore because of family members being
lost or whatever. People get uber depressed. They get very

(36:28):
heightened in their emotional state. Hence why I hate Christmas
shopping season because no one has manners. Everyone is crazy
and they will literally chop your toes off with a
cart to get to a bag of eminem's.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I mean it is true, it is true, and I
think the holidays. So for us working in mental health,
we always know we get a surge right before on,
a surge right after the way it is, Yeah, if
we get low on hours, we always are like, don't
worry about it. It's almost the holidays.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Don't worry all.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
The it'll happen.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
And true we caret about that, but it's true absolutely.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And it's just you know, people get to the point,
you know, money, like you said, not only the traditions,
but this pressure like I know as a single mom
when I was one, got pressure of being able.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
To provide and all all that you have to give
everybody what they want, and so desperation makes people do
crazy things.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Because any other time of the year, if you had
Susie the Sassy shopping cart uh person, right you ran
into her any other time of the year, she would
definitely not try to take your toes off with the cart.
But during the holiday season, that's when people go a

(38:02):
little berserk, a little crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
It starts at that Black Friday man.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And so what causes that, what causes people to snap
and to behave in ways that they don't normally behave
in and do things that they wouldn't normally do. I'm
just saying it's a thing that's true. So during that
time of year, not only do people go crazy, but

(38:32):
it is the time of year where everyone will tell you,
not everyone, but you know what I'm saying. Abroad, percent
of the population will talk about seeing angels, or hearing
loved ones that have passed away, hearing their voices, or
smelling certain things that you know, remind them of a

(38:58):
person in the past, like certain sense and things like that,
or nursing staff talk about seeing having sightings of shadowy
or light, you know, figures or whatever. And so does
that kind of stuff happen and does it heighten this

(39:20):
time of year? Yes, very weird right, So why does
that happen? Well, how about is your DNA a spiritual antenna?
And I'm going to say yes, because your DNA is
your God given strand to make up who you are.

(39:45):
That is your connection to God. Your mRNA is the
messaging between you and God. Hence, why do we want
to give mRNA vaccination and treatments and stuff that alter
that DNA Because they're severing that connection with Creator. So

(40:09):
the science side of things says that DNA emits and
receives tiny little light signals, and some other scientists that
are on the other side of the coin say they
act like a radio antenna. And I'm going to tell
you this is absolutely one hundred percent true. And here's why.

(40:34):
If you are a shit person, right, and you have
crummy behavior and whatever, what kind of people do you attract?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Say, if you are kind hearted and loving and empathetic
for people and whatever, what do you attract in your
circle those same kind of people?

Speaker 4 (40:59):
And so do I.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Side on the fringe science part where your DNA is
a radio antenna? Absolutely, because what you put out comes
back to you. And if you put out misery and
chaos into the universe, your life is full of misery
and chaos a lot. So yes, I believe that. And

(41:26):
it says that human bodies respond not only to other
people's energy levels and stuff, which we all know because
we talk about that a lot, but it also responds
to cosmic radiation, solar cycles and full moons. So think

(41:46):
about to the human resonance frequency that you know makes
people lacked a little cuckoo and they're like, oh my god,
I feel like everything is off or everything is heightened
or whatever. During those times, it was literally splashed all

(42:07):
over social media when that frequency changed. And think about
two with the full moons. Full moons have always brought
out cukadoos.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
These Arctic northern lights. My ass. Look, people, I don't
care what you saw. I'm sure you did. I did too,
But guess what, it's never happened before, Like do the
math and know that they're doing something to you, oh.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
One hundred percent. And we know from you know, research
and what we've talked about before. Do they have the
type of energy weapons that can do that? And do
they know about affecting our frequencies and stuff? I look
at we did a long time ago, like the Havana syndrome,

(43:01):
you know, and we talked about that and how they
can use not only frequencies, but sounds and smells and
all kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I remember right around twenty twenty there was this sound
every night, and I wasn't the only one. Other people
are this weird high pitched sound. And they do stuff
all the time.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Oh one hundred percent. Yeah, And that's part of the
testing that they do on human human beings, with or
without your knowledge and consent, right, But that's the thing.
And so anything that they can do to upset or
interfere with that connection and your your DNA antenna, of

(43:47):
course they're going to do it. So spiritual side of things,
angels are considered frequency based beings, and so Chris angels
often are described as glowing or shimmering, So people that
describe seeing them this time of year, that's what they

(44:10):
describe them as. Or sometimes they're even depicted in movies
right as shimmery type type things. And so the idea
that intuition or revelation is a signal received by your
own DNA coil. So I tend to believe that too.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Because this picture shows that so good. It's like the
coil in the back and then I really like this one.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Well, and it makes sense because how many times do
you have an intuition like, oh I should not do that,
or maybe I should get hold of somebody or whatever.
That is literally your your God consciousness telling you to

(45:06):
stay away from something, telling you to run towards something,
telling you to contact someone. That's exactly what that is.
So because the the DNA stranding that you know, he created,
the Creator created us to be those receivers for him

(45:27):
and to get those messages. But how often do we
not listen? Wow, where I get I was gonna say,
I kind of remember maybe a time or two in
my life where I was a little pigheaded and stubborn,
and I'm like, nope, not doing that. And it's like,
yes you are when I hit you over the here

(45:48):
with frying pan if you don't listen. So here's the question.
Are some people morgin etically predisposed or sensitive to the
spiritual realm? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Really? I do think this is a thing only because well,
I know I had childhood trauma and people could put
it off on that. But even in my lineage, like
I come from a long line of people like clear
back to the Huntington's and it's it's strange, like Xena
Huntington is one of my very old old Mormon ancestors,

(46:31):
and she was known as a priestess and it was
before they took you know, that away from the women,
and she gave more blessings that helped people than the
men and anyone else. And then they took it from
the women.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Of course, why because women are nature nurtures.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Right, because they worked and they were like, damn.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
It, right, we don't want to we don't want to
helping people for crying out loud, and who are the
people that create destructive things in the world. It's always
a male. Women don't do that.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I will give them a couple instances of like, okay,
but what happened to those people beforehand? Right, like the
one lady of Bathory and she was kind of crazy
killing people, leading them all over and weirdo stuff or
like you know, I mean, I'm not saying women can't
be nefurious, but overall, I mean we can use the

(47:34):
podcast world for example, how often do we help up?
Why are right people pushed down? Right?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
And it's true, and it's it's because we are God's
natural nurtures, and so we are born to help people
and lift people up and whatever. And so if you
think about it in the terms of good and evil
and oh my god, people are probably gonna lose their

(48:02):
ever love in minds over those. But women tend to
side on the side of good, whereas men tend to
side on the side of evil, because it's it's their
nature to not nurture, it's their nature to repress and

(48:22):
suppress and all of those things. And that's why, like,
if you look out through history, like all of the
psychological studies that have been done that basically tormented like
the participants, they've all been run by a man. You know,
Look at Bill Gates and what he's done. Look the
vaccine manufacturers, they're typically always a male. Can there be

(48:48):
exceptions to that? Yes, I'm not saying that men are bad,
So don't get your panties all up in a twist,
because I love men and we need men. But that's
why there's two sides of the coin, because we're supposed
to balance each other.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yes, it's important, it's really important, and why we're designed
a specific way to have that other half to balance
us too, because we're too emotional. I can't count how
many times I've helped somebody up where my husband's like,
why'd you do that? Same you saw it coming, like
you did this before, you.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Know better, right, But it's in your neighbor your nature
to like help and help repeatedly. And that's why, like
certain people are susceptible also to getting used and getting
hurt in that aspect because people take advantage of that.

(49:49):
But I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that because
I'm not going to change.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
No. Like I told my husband the other day, I said,
he's like, why do you send pictures to this one person?
And I said, you know, it's not about them and
what they think like or whatever they do with it,
they asked me. So I do that and I want
to bless them, So I do that, and you know,

(50:18):
it is information, it is stuff I've worked hard to
get and books and things. And he's like, you know
they're just going to use that, you know, And I'm like, okay,
and you know, if I've already presented it, is it
really my job to hoard everything like it's just not good,
Like that's not good to help people grow, right.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
So we have to make a lot of decisions in
our lives, right and pick our battles and do all
of the things. But that comes down to again that
peneo land and us having the ability to reason out
and critically think and plan out, like if we do this,

(51:04):
what could happen? What's gonna happen? So that's two sides
of the coin too, Because can women be bad shit cuckoo?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, but that's why again women need men and men
need women for that balance and that harmony, because that's
why it was created to be.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Absolutely So.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Do you think that prophetic gifting is a biological trait?

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Not always? I think it can be and I think
you know, it can also be acquired if if God
decides to do anything with you, he can you know,
I think so too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
So how about do certain DNA lineages carry spiritual sensitivity?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
I think that might be true. I think that one
might be definitely.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
True because how many people do you know that like
most of their family are like very like in tune.
I guess who could say and awake and know things
that normal people wouldn't know, and you know they're not
studying stuff that it just comes.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's a definite. I think that
there's just and I think Native Americans prove that a
lot of times. Nobody had to come tell them about
God like kind of and they were like, yeah, we
just figured this thing out, we don't need you, and
then that caused the problem because they needed money.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Right, So do you think that like with the with
the lineages like that, do you think that's why there
are some that have long lines of like profits or
healers or whatever that.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I think so for me, I definitely think that's I
visualize that in my own family or like you'll have
a heightened sense uh like we all have a heightened
sense of smell, which is not the best thing for
a nurse. But I agree there's days where I'm like,
oh my gosh, but.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
You're like I could even smell like crazy stuff when
I'm like uber congested, and I'm like, oh my god,
it smells like whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
And I mean it's benefited me a lot. You know,
it's helped me too, but you know, you just I
do think that's something that you know, you're either born
with a lot of times and then you can develop
it or you know you you may be able to
I think you have to have a little spark in
there on that particular thing.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
And here's the but here's the question that I have,
or not the question, but think about this. How many
times do we hear stories about like as we're younger
children that had imaginary friends, right, and then of course

(54:20):
as we age, like all that goes away, belief goes away,
faith goes away or whatever. So what if that spiritual
side of things and that God connection was coming through
our DNA as an imaginary friend, and so our body

(54:42):
are subconscious is making it so that we can understand
what we're through an imaginary friend, Like think about it
in the same aspect of like Bigfoot or whatever. So
so if Bigfoot was actually a different kind of creature

(55:04):
that was like uber frightening and uber scary and terrifying,
demonic looking, whatever words you want to describe it, people
would not be able to visually or physically handle what
it really looks like. That's why it presents as a werewolf.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Right. Well, yeah, the angel is the first thing they
say to every person ever, is do not be afraid.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Right, And that's why I'm wondering if maybe the imaginary
friend thing is because we still have that close connection
to God when we have our innocence and all of
that stuff. And that's how our body manifested in a
way that we can understand. Because being that small and
that little and our brains aren't developed yet, we're not

(55:54):
going to understand like a light being, you know what
I mean, right.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Just shelf it as like fake or whatever. Yeah, imaginary.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
And that's why like when we get older and the
pineal gland closes and we shut off that you know,
connection or whatever, and we lose that creativity and we
lose that openness to be able to actually visually process
m angels and things like that.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
So, yeah, I could see that for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Hopefully that made sense.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
No, I get where you're going with that.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
So is d MT the molecule of Christmas miracles? So
because it's created naturally like we talked about before, and
it happens during trauma and all of those different things
and the heightened stress levels in December with all the

(56:57):
Christmas shopping and thinking about family that aren't there anymore
and all of those things. So is that coupled with
our circadian rhythm and our hormone balance and all of
those things what cause people to see like the Star

(57:22):
of Bethlehem during Christmas and they visualize it, or that's
when they have more angelic visitations or angelic messages or whatever.
Is DMT the cause of that and why?

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I don't think so, but I think that people could think.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
That it's very possible. So Biblically speaking, a biblical angel
is a light being and has an overwhelming presence and
comes usually with a message or a warning. Things like that,
or telepathic communication, so kind of like we talked about

(58:11):
touched on a little in the last show. I like
to say, I get downloads. It's not an actual download
of information, but it like the filing cabinet got filled
up when I wasn't paying attention, if you know what
I'm getting at, And it's like stuff that I have

(58:32):
never looked into, I don't know anything about, and all
of a sudden, the information is there. Has that ever
happened to you more?

Speaker 1 (58:41):
I think mine is. I get led to things like
you need to look at this book, right, I need
to read this thingy over here, and especially with the books.
But it's all about how you tune in. Like I think,
if if you tune it, I think you could get
Like I mean, there are some things that are automatic
where I'm like, yeah, I know that, Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Why do I know that? I have no time?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah? Yeah, And and I just get it that fast
where my mom's like, hold on, what the hell are
you talking about?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
And where is my God?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
And and it's funny, you know. Language is one of
those things where Spanish for me, I did study it,
but just in a book that I got at the store. Like,
I didn't take it. Uh. I just had a boyfriend
and I didn't understand him, and he didn't understand me.
And I was really young, and I thought I'm going
to figure this out. So and he wasn't my boy

(59:37):
I liked him, right, I wanted to talk to him,
and so I just learned. Uh. And I started, you know, oh,
I'll just do this, or I'll just watch movies, or
I'll and and and I know enough now that you know,
I can stumble my way through quite a bit. Uh.
And it passed on to my son, who he did

(59:58):
study it because he heard me do that. He's so fluent.
He's like perfectly fluent, you know, which is really funny
because he failed the English part of the exam and
they questioned him when he went to go get his
his bilingual interpreter thing here. He's very young and he

(01:00:19):
already has that. And they said, well he was not
born here, then he is not a natural citizen. And
I said, he is the widest child you have ever thought.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
The people yeah speak, he definite is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I was like, sir, just send so I had to
have this meeting with his counselor. I said, just send
them a picture. And they were laughing, and he goes, Mom,
it's because and I know there are people that speak
Spanish in other countries. I'm teasing a little here, but
that are blonde and blue eyed and all the things.
But I think it's funny just in general. And the

(01:00:57):
guy said, well, why did you fail English? Party said,
because the computer does it for you. I actually had
to learn how to conjugate these verbs. Well yeah, he's
not wrong. Well check does do it for you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
And it's funny because I dated somebody before that was
Hispanic and they were trying to learn better English. And
they're like, the English language is the most difficult, complicated
thing to learn, like it makes zero sense to people,
and why do we have multiple ways to spell the

(01:01:33):
same word?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Yes, yeah, And they're well, and even so I took
French forever, but I couldn't ever do it because there
was a cute boy. That's see. It's always the voice,
the boy that sat next to me, and I just
never paid attention. But when I went to France, I
was like, oh, like you said, who is this person?
My daughter said, did you speak French to that person?

(01:01:58):
And I said I think I did, and she was
we were lost, and I was like, they are so
rude if you try and just talk English to them
at first, so they know English. Look, none of them
don't like understand, they know. They just don't want to
talk to you if you're not going to dress right
and be nice. But so I tried and then he

(01:02:20):
was like talking to me for a minute. Then he
spoke in English and I was like, oh, yeah, that's great.
But he was like, yeah, your French wasn't bad, and
she's like, you speak French.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
What I was like, You're like, I have no idea
where it came from, don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah, I was like I did take it for a
long time. I guess some of it got like you said,
the download, I guess some of it went in there,
you know, or if you've ever fallen asleep with a podcast.
This happens to me a lot in my ear and
I'll wake up and I'm like, yeah, that totally made sense.
My husband's like, did you just learn in your sleep?
You are freaking weird?

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Like yeah, and some people have that higher frequency where uh,
and I like to think about like a sponge. You
are highly absorbed sponge. Other people not so much. They're
dry out dead inappropriate. Well, well that you need to

(01:03:21):
get that sponge moist.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
She's been nice, ah my mom, how do you keep
all this stuff in your head? Because sometimes she'll hear
me when somebody says something that you're not talking about,
you know, another thing, and then I'll just and she's like,
why did you know that? I'm like, I just listened
to it once on the podcast person listening, you know,

(01:03:44):
but to learn it, really learn it good, not just
a little bit. I have to stop and write it
down if I really want to know something, Well, it
still gets in there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Sometimes one hundred percent. And I'm I'm the exact same way.
But I think that that's why, like we talked about
a minute ago, like some people are uber sensitive to
the universe or whatever you want to call it, and
picking up things and listening to those signals that it

(01:04:17):
may not be like you're hearing voices. I don't mean that,
but it's like, like you said, like being led to
do whatever. Like I got led in the holistic health set, Yeah,
and knew how to do things that I've never done before.
And it's like it's just there, It's in there. Yeah,

(01:04:38):
Katina is getting full.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yep. I think there is definitely that, And you know,
I think that it also kind of hurts us because
we can read the room and I've been told before
like you're reading it wrong, and I'm like, no, I'm
not right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Empathic, Yeah, it's always something you can sense. And that's
why I said, like empathic in the sense of being
in tune to things around you, kind of like I said,
with childhood, you know, and having that innocence. And so

(01:05:17):
when you're empathic, you have that same kind of ability
or gift that we're born with where it's like you
can feel or sense emotions or whatever. You don't even
have to look at anybody in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
You can just feel like you didn't do anything. Yeah,
and it doesn't even like sometimes it's kind of bad.
Because you you can call. I'm very direct, so I'll
say something to somebody and they'll say that's not true,
like I don't feel that, but like maybe they did,
but it wasn't enough to really have them even notice,

(01:05:52):
Like maybe they're.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Not either, or maybe they really do feel that, right,
but they're not being upfront and on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
And I just think that's really unfortunate, you know, because
we live in such a world that literally no one
is their authentic self, and I think it scares the
shit out of people when people like us just do
what this is just me, like this is my life,
Like if you looked me up, you would find out

(01:06:21):
the same shit I already tell you, you know, like
this is how it is. And so some of us
don't do masks, and we don't do that well. And
I'm definitely one of those people, you know. I don't
like that. I don't like masks. I don't like faking things.
I don't right say why, I don't have time for.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
That, right, same thing. I'm not going to bury my
true identity to make somebody else, make somebody else have
the happy feels, you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Saying, or make you more comfortable or whatever, and I
think that is why you know, I've been number one God,
but number two that is that people liked to listen
because they're like, oh, this is who she really is
and what you want to do. And yeah, you listen
to a podcast, you want to know about them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Yep, you know. And people when you don't wear that mask,
people feel closer to you. They feel more connected because
they feel like they know your authentic, genuine soul.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah, and even if it's not great, like, you're still
gonna know me like that. I'm not saying I'm all
like all but up like, there's lots of parts of
me that many people don't like that I don't even like,
but at least you'll know who I am. And I
always go back to that Nirvana quote, you know. I mean,
it's good to just hate somebody for who they are,

(01:07:42):
even if that you know, it's it's that quote, like
it's like, Okay, I'd rather be hated for who I
am than who I'm not. Right, It's just I don't
have that, and people are mistaken for oh, she can't
keep a secret or oh she doesn't work well with others. No,
I'm just going to be brutally on it and if
you're also the same uh, we probably can have a

(01:08:03):
really great relation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I was gonna say, hence why we're best friends exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
And I'm like, you know, is it really that difficult?
Do you all really hide like that? Just seems exhausting
to me. I can't. That was part of Mormonism, right,
they were all fake and and not sorry for people
I just generalized, but many of the people I knew
seemed very fake, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
And and here's a like an example of that. What
was that what was her name? Ruby?

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Oh you have Ruby Frankie.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Where she she put the uh put on that front
or that air that they had the perfect family and
she was the perfect mom and like they loved each
other and the kids loved each other and like whatever.
And then behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Her child was Nazi camp survivor like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Yeah, like she was that shit nuts and she was
angry and she yelled at people all the time, and
she abused her children and and whatever. So that that
just goes to show you that, like when you can
let that wall down and be your authentic self, that's

(01:09:22):
when you have more light that comes in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
And people will love it or they will hate it.
There's never an in between.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
And if if they if they can't, if they cannot
take your presence or the light that you emit, that
is a you problem or them problem. That's not a
you problem. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Hard. That's a hard thing because I think what you said, Like,
I've had it since I was a kid, since I
was literally born, and it's intense for people, and I
get it, like it's caused problems for me my whole life.
And I watch it with my daughter and it makes
me so sad because she got it a little more
than the others. And my son has it. But he

(01:10:04):
doesn't give up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
He does not care, And then I need to check
you would love him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
He's just like I'm gonna do this if I want to,
Like he does not. I'm like, oh boy, sometimes I
even am like ah and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
About getting to that point when the judgment of others
just not bother you and I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Now I am so proud that I raised him, Like
I need to teach him how to cultivate a better
acceptance of people, because not everybody will meet you where
you are, right, so we got to get there. But
like he does not do that for honey, traps don't
work with him. Nothing works with him because he will

(01:10:50):
stay in his lane and he's like, bitch please. Like
sometimes I'm like, oh, you cannot do that, and if
I say no, it's probably bad, like because I'm pretty
liberal on certain things. But like with my daughter, it's
hard because she doesn't know how to rain anything back.

(01:11:11):
And she's a lot like I was. And every single
time when I was a kid, like I would have
problems with people that you know, they just didn't like me.
There was like nothing that ever happened, like we didn't
have a fight or words or like, it would just
be like they didn't like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
It because they cannot be around that type of energy
And I used to the higher level. And that's that's
why people can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
It's hard, though, that's a hard thing to accept. But
when I got older and I started noticing more like
babies always come to me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Dogs always because you have that that authentic innocence about you,
so don't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
But hard, Yeah, sometimes that's rough, right, I mean, it's
harder honestly for her for me to watch that with her.
You know, we're talking about a kid that's like got
in trouble during the VID because she wanted to hug
everybody too much, and she just loves people, and you know,
for them to just be intentionally mean because why and

(01:12:22):
she doesn't understand it. And you can't teach that cruelty
to somebody that doesn't think like that. You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
That's why I'm glad there's light and dark in our
society because some people have that light and they bring
that light to everything around them, and other people try
to bring destruction and chaos.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
So kind of like chaos magic, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Right, And so think of it this way, like the
biblical angels and whatever that we described a while ago,
So think of it on the flip side. And these
are the DMT entities. So people describe seeing geometric light
being so shapes right, squares and triangles and all the things.

(01:13:17):
And again they have the overwhelming presence. There's a message
or a cryptic teaching along with it and telepathic communication.
So this is the occult thing that I wanted to
mention earlier because you and I have both done a
show with this person and there's a lot of practicing

(01:13:42):
of crossing the abyss and can describe to you in
very vivid detail number one involving the color purple. And
number two, everything in their crossing over between life and

(01:14:04):
death was geometric and nothing was like uniform or whatever
where we would see things or process things on a
daily basis. It was all these very strange shapes and
patterns and whatever. But the colors and stuff. And since

(01:14:26):
our body releases DMT during near death experiences or right
before we die, wild all there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Right, yeah, yeah, And I mean, look, I'm not saying
anything if you want to go do that, like you
know people that have done that, like who we're talking about.
I don't know if he still wants that mentioned, but
you know, I think that it's scary for me, Like
if wants to choose to do whatever you want, but

(01:15:02):
remember one thing it says in the Bible, and it
says it for a reason. It's a really good warning
for people that demons that never belonged here. And so
I'm talking, Yes, fallen angels came here and mate it
with women, and those things that they created, not the
fallen angel The things that they created were born illegally

(01:15:24):
without the proper spirit, I believe, and when they died
that first time, right, they can't go to. They can't
go anywhere because they are created illegally. Yeah, like it
wasn't it wasn't a God thing. And so now it
says they roam looking for a place to rest. And

(01:15:45):
the scary part for that is is that when you
cross into somewhere, you are a bright light because you
have a spirit from God. Right Okay, well even if
you were a demon worshiper, like even if you hated
everything that sparks created you, right, So I feel like

(01:16:07):
they are bringing so many things back, you know, and
they it doesn't It may help you temporarily. But like
every single time I read Crowley, or I read John
d or I read Let's Go Out of the Occult,
because people say that's a cult. Read about Joseph Smith,
read about other prophets they always talk about like these

(01:16:28):
things and I'm not talking prophets in the Bible. I'm
talking about false prophets. What mean big difference is they
will have these horrible things like come afterward and like
it's just they'll get and then they'll get addicted to
substances or whatever because they're not trying to be in

(01:16:49):
this presence or they're possibly overtaken and that's scary. So
you know, they can be overtaken if they don't have
the light of God. I don't believe a true Christian
can be overtaken by I believe they could be to
oh one and and all kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Well look at Job, right, it's a perfect example because
Job had uh faith stronger than anyone else and whatever,
but he had all of these things that were oppressing
him and causing chaos and destroying his life and everything
around him, right, and so the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Suffering was real, it was. And he lost all his
kids in one day like that. You don't get that back.
Like people talk about that and say, well he was restored.
I'm like, no, you don't have the same baby again
like those people that he lost. That's a real, genuine loss,
Like that's forever. And so I get why he was tormented,

(01:17:51):
you know. And I mean, and it was allowed. We
read about why right things are allowed to occur, right,
But we do have God to turn to and faith
is like the main thing, like it is, and protect
yourself like put on that armor of God, like do
those things and see if your life isn't different, Like

(01:18:14):
that is why. No matter how much I learn, no matter,
and people will say to me, you know all this stuff,
you know, how how do you still believe in the
Bible Because it's just this, or it's an allegory, or
it's a code for the direction.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
It's made up it's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Yeah, or or that was you know, used for this
reason this. I'm like, okay, but I know what it
is for me, Like I have been close to death
multiple times and there's nothing that can take my faith.
There's just no way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Right one hundred percent. And so think of this, like
for people who are choosing to go on these unnatural
trips with d MT. If you just found out today
that your body manufactures it anyway on a regular basis,

(01:19:10):
why in the ever loving hale would you need to
go outside of that for a synthetic experience something that
was not you know, God created, that is outside of you.
Why would you need to go outside of that for

(01:19:30):
an extra experience? Because, like Heidi said, you're a light.
You're going to attract things. So think of yourself as
a magnet. So you're going to pull all of that
magnetic energy right back to you. And so you're crossing
over into places that you should not be because you

(01:19:52):
may not be where you think you are either because universit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
The things that are the abyss or whatever that is
closest to us is the lowest realm, Like you have
no idea where you're going. And I can tell you this,
the benevolent things are not low They're not up there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Like every time everybody's ever said, oh, you should try
it once, my answer has always been the same. I
don't need to try it because I already know who
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
And I mean, if you want to do it, that's fine,
but just be aware you may not be the same afterward,
like even with ketamine, even with these things that they're
doing for people to treat them. And I'm not talking
like externally or anything. I'm talking about like IV I'm talking.
I'm talking about serious dosis, okay, because I do think

(01:20:48):
there are some things topically that I mean, we we
do absorb it, but it's a different thing. You're not
going to get high if you rub like certain things
on your body. Like it's different, and everybody's different anyway.
But I do think at the level they give you
when it goes directly into the bloodstream in an IVY whatever,

(01:21:10):
unless you have severe trauma and you know what you're
getting into, and you're prepared for that. You better be
prepared to live with the consequences of getting those memories back,
because with the good comes the bad. God has put
that mechanism there for you, like for me, especially because
I have traumatic amnesia from like trauma like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
From some stuff, right, Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I share that and I'm fine with that, but I
also don't need to delve further into that to know
that that happened, Like I know, like, how much further
do I need to know to know? Like I'm good?
Like I know it's there. We learn, we grow, We
you know, if I was still having more issues from
it and hadn't developed, you know, through God. You know,

(01:22:00):
that was the thing that changed me. Is honestly my
dog and God. Like my daughter said to me the
other day, she said, Mom, the changes in you came
so much after huge trauma. So I'm assuming you know,
some of this stuff going on naturally in my body.
And then you know, I got a dog, and then

(01:22:20):
I delved into the Bible and it was all at
the same time, right, And she was like, it was
so crazy watching you change. And then she said, and
then when you had your first grandchild, it just was.
She's like, it's been actually cool to see you change again.
She's like, I mean you were always She's like, I

(01:22:41):
love you. You're still much you know. She's like, yeah, I
love you, You're my mom. But like the things that changed
in you were radical.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
It was like, and it should be that way, right,
And it should be when you have an actual true
awakening a psychosist type.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
You should accident psycho But I mean that does happen? Yeah,
that could have happened, you know. So to say God
doesn't sometimes make people crazy, because sometimes I think he does,
Like he uses what right? I mean the one I
can't remember who who what Nicodemus that had to go

(01:23:23):
live like a goat for a while. But it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
True though, because every trial and turmoil is meant to
strengthen your character and strengthen your faith and resolve right
and sometimes like why are people born with deformities or
why are people injured in accidents or whatever? When he
could prevent it happening. Here's the thing, you will never

(01:23:55):
experience any kind of growth in your life unless you
have some kind of chaos or turmoil that you have
to come out of. So maybe you're an uber vain
person and you're all about your looks all the time
and you get in a horrific accident and your face

(01:24:16):
is burned or something, And what is the lesson to
be learned in that?

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
You have to learn to adapt and overcome and not
be concerned with worldly things and you know, judgment from
other people. You should be reflecting in word, what kind
of people are you on the inside?

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
And God has catered that for your life, right, not
that he makes the challenge, but he knows, you know,
everything is a court in this world. It's either allowed
or not allowed. Like that is that is the whole
point of job. Like if you listen to Job, people
are like, why did job get tortured? And God was

(01:24:58):
okay with it? Some thinks he is okay with but
he also knows like our breaking point and that's why
things are weighed and judged, you know, right, And he says,
don't try and think like him, like, I don't know,
but that is your catering. And I think he knows
what's on the other side, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
He knows absolutely what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
We could become, and so he hopes we'll endoor to
the end, which is like what we're supposed to do,
but not just lay there like, come on like that, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Not it, Like how do you how do you use
the chaos or trauma or turmoil that you went through
to not only make a change instead of yourself but
inside of other people?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Right, that's why I called my show. That's why people
always ask me your show. His name is a little weird.
And I'm like, right, because that's your warning. Unfiltered is
the warning if you watch me. Sorry, I'm not sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
You know, like you're at your own risk.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Yeah, I might cuss, I might say some crazy offhand thing.
I might say a wrong word and wrong think and
I don't know whatever. I'm not going to do catering
to that. So that's what that is. And rise because
I'm like, look, I have been a victim half my
life if you want to define it, but I choose
not right that I should be on a corner somewhere

(01:26:20):
selling myself with the life I had. Okay, Like, I'm
not ever and nor will I ever, nor have I
ever been that because I saw the chaos around me
and said this is not my life.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I will not be this and I'm going to be
better and whatever and that's what we should all be
striving to do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
But not just for myself, for others too, right, because
if you stop there, then you're an asshole.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Right. So with the with the holidays and all of
that stuff and the emotional triggers and whatever whatever. So
a lot of times people will experience where they sense

(01:27:06):
a loved one, hear a loved one, smell a loved one,
or you know, something like that. And I want to
say that a lot of people put a lot of
stock in the fact if they lost somebody and they
see a cardinal around the holidays, a cardinal always reminds

(01:27:29):
them of their loved one, like it's their loved one
coming to visit. And so do people also believe that
the lost loved one rein incarnates or whatever or comes
back as an angel to talk to them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Hopefully not, because hopefully you read your scriptures and you
know absence of the body is presence with the Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
I remind us to my mom because she has a
hard time because we've lost so many people and it
is hard, it is, But I also tell her that
doesn't mean he doesn't see you. It just means you
know that we know that he is somewhere better and
that we have to let go. That is part of overcoming.
That is why death happens in stages, right, and we

(01:28:19):
don't all die at the same time. We have to
learn that everything you're given is a gift and canon
will be taken away. And God says, though, don't ever
live your life like in regret, but also try not
to look back too much on that pass like and

(01:28:39):
live in that past because you see people do that,
you know right that it overtakes their life. Doesn't mean
you don't remember, yeah, but just remember the familiar spirits
in the Bible know everything. They know your heart's desire,
they know what you want. They know so much about you,

(01:28:59):
and they know how to get what they want to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
And so I was going to say a little bit
of manipulation from the other side, because what did they
do cause death, chaos or restruction? And so do they
quote unquote reincarnate or show themselves as a lost loved

(01:29:22):
one or whatever. Oh yes, maybe they do. So be
very careful of what you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Right, and they're lower level. This isn't even the good stuff.
Just remember, like the occultists will tell you, if you
want to go read them. They'll talk to you all
about what it is. And even they say, don't fuck
with it, and we still do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Right, bananas, and you know, because we were hard headed
and we don't listen.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
So bananas.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Yeah, So onto the Star of Bethlehem. Celestial, symbolic or psychedelic.
So we know from a traditional sense and the biblical sense.
In Matthew two one through twelve, it was the story

(01:30:16):
of the magi that were guided from the east to
where Jesus was born. It was a celestial sign announcing
the birth of the king. So in traditional explanations, it's
because Jupiter and Saturn planetary conjunction, or Jupiter and Venus

(01:30:39):
from a comet, or a supernova or rare astronomical events
that are visible four months could have created the Star
of Bethlehem. The mystical take on the things is it's
a light in the sky, an awakening with humanity. A

(01:31:01):
star is the symbol of guidance, intuition, and internal revelation.
The biological theory is that ancient people were more connected
to nature's frequencies, which yes they were, because now we're
concerned with cell phones and iPads and iPods and all

(01:31:25):
the electronics and stuff, and we don't pay attention to nature.
We don't pay attention to our surroundings or anything. So
I definitely believe that. Also, it says strong celestial alignment
with the electromagnetic field of shifts or humans feel those

(01:31:48):
shifts physically and spiritually. So biblically speaking, people are now
talking and think that the magi are actually astrologers from
either Babylon or Persia. And to them, Jupiter King Regulus

(01:32:11):
meant royal star, and Virgo was the Virgin and so
that's where they come to the conclusion that they must
have all been astronomers. But whichever way you look at it,
where it's whether it's biblical, traditional, mystical, or biological, they
all kind of have the same thing in common is

(01:32:32):
that it's Star Bethlehem as a guiding force. So some
cultures see the Star of Bethlehem as either awakening your
Christ's consciousness divine light, or incarnates into human form. And

(01:32:55):
so some people believe that the Star Bethling is actually
an angel watching over us and could like take human
form when need be. I don't know about that. I'm
just saying some cultures believe that. So it is what

(01:33:16):
it is. So examples of like the solar's flares or
the comments or or whatever. If you ever heard people
like we talked about before, acting crazy on a full
moon or during the human residence, it's because again, those
frequencies shift. And so they'll tell you a lot of

(01:33:39):
times too when those energy shifts happen, that you'll notice
your animals like and everything labor, uh huh, everything crazy.
And it's kind of like and this maybe like TMI
for people, but if you work with a bunch of women,

(01:34:02):
your cycles, well speculate and everybody will be on their
cycles at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
They all live together.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
And so I bring that up because if you're thinking
about like everything going into labor at the same time,
or everybody's frequency shifting, it is believed to be like
a reset for us. And so it's not supposed to
be something that we're supposed to be scared of. When

(01:34:35):
the energy shifts. It's God working to shift us all
back to the state of consciousness that we're supposed to
be having. But it does definitely it's the reset button.
But it makes some people fry instead of reset, you know,

(01:34:56):
you fight your card drive.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Oh my gosh, the sorry, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
I smell something burning. It's just my neighbor.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
It's just you know, it's just my ears and my
hair and my brain.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
So think of it this way. Does this dark Bethlehem
actually or could it have actually caused a global peneal
gland awakening? So does that happen around this same time
like every year, because again he's trying to reset things.

(01:35:38):
Do you think that's possible?

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Yeah? I think I think that that's why everything's off
with the Gregorian calendar, because it's supposed to be how
it's supposed to be, like the way he designed it,
not the way we designed it, and they did that
shit on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Sosa. So if you think about like angels as interdimensional
messagers and like I said, our our mRNA is that
messenger sequence between us and gods, and I get the
angels coming in. But if you compare all the religious

(01:36:19):
text with the modern phenomena and people describing them as
you know, light beings or messenger carriers, Uh, they're like
celestial heavenly so they don't have physical bodies. They appear
suddenly out of nowhere. Some people describe them as shapeshifters.

(01:36:44):
To me, that's a little different. That makes me think
of something completely different. When you say shape shifter, I
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
That makes me interdimensional being.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Like it doesn't make me think
of heavenly bodies, you know what I'm saying. And of
course that like esp where they're communicating with you through thought.
I don't know about you, but that makes me a little.

(01:37:20):
So there is a theory called the Philosopher's Stone, and
what that is is times when the spirit and the
matter around us unite. And they think that that is
what causes people to see the Star of Bethlehem or

(01:37:43):
to see angels appear or whatever, or they feel off
I guess during the holiday time. So I'm not sure
what I think about that. But if you're uniting with
matter around you, again, I would be very careful what

(01:38:05):
you're putting out into the universe because you're going to
track that right back. So if you're putting out demonic messages,
you're probably gonna get that back threefold. Yeah, you know,
I'm saying to be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Gotta be careful stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
So anyway, to me, this stuff is uber interesting and
where these things really come from? And so me, I
think because I love the brain. And I love to
think about like our subconscious and the way it protects us,
you know, and all of those things. So do you

(01:38:47):
think that our subconscious could be like an override for
our emotions or whatever to get us to understand things
that we don't understand, but in a more simplified way,
kind of like I talked about with like you know,

(01:39:09):
seeing like Bigfoot or whatever, and and the way that
we actually would see it would scare the hell of us,
so we interpret it a different way. So do you
think it's possible for the same thing to happen with
angelic stuff or people thinking they're seeing like the Star

(01:39:32):
of Bethlehem.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
I have a hard time with the angel thing because
I think that they're so militant if you get sent
a real angel, and I don't think God would want
to confuse it by making it like less like less
scary like God sent, you know, because the ones that
were sent by God did scare the shit out of

(01:39:57):
people because they were like, hey, don't freak out, but
I've got this message right, like right, They didn't. They
didn't obfuscate themselves. They could have just showed up as
something different. I mean, I think there was one instance
where they did and then people still lost it after them. Anyway, Yeah,
it was the one with Sodom. In Sodom, but it

(01:40:21):
didn't work right. Everybody, like it was like this weird
thing and everybody was weirdly attracted still in all this
strange stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
So well, that's understandable. They're like, Oh, it's kind of
like that guy. It's like that Geico commercial with the
raccoons that are like eating out the trash and they're like, oh,
this is gross. You should taste it, you know. It's
kind of like in Sodom's grosser and more weird the worst.

(01:40:56):
They're like, oh, this is kind of sexually turning me on.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
And we still have those people today unfortunately. But I
don't think that the real ones can really hide it
or anything like. It didn't work, Like even though they
were human in the like, it didn't work. And so
I think that there would be a hard path, like
you wouldn't be able to do that, I don't think.
And with God, I think he's, like I said, very

(01:41:21):
specific with things. It wouldn't be like so like I'm
going to come back seventy two times and maybe you'll
catch it by the end. Of this and then you'll
have your friends sleep with your wife. Like I just
can't see the whole veer to the left, like whoa,
what happened there? Like I just I mean, I think

(01:41:42):
deep down they probably had an inkling. Whereas the angels
come in, it's always they get the business done right away.
They're never here for a long time, right, They're not like, oh,
I'm gonna chill here for a couple thousand years. And
you know, even the ones that you know come, they
just it's it's a quick thing, like here, here's your
shed and leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
I mean, do you think it's possible? And I don't
want to like diminish this time of year for certain
people that you know, holidays are hard or whatever, But
do you think that it's possible that when they see
or think they're hearing like a past on loved when

(01:42:27):
talking to them, or they're seeing, you know, the Star
of Bethlehem, or they're seeing all of these things right
around the holiday time or whatever, do you think that
there is some kind of like possible weakness or whatever
in their in their defenses that's something glowing, some kind

(01:42:53):
of manipulation to go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
I think something happens during this time of year, because
even if we look at Saturnalia, even if we look
at and they did Christmas at this time of year
on purpose, and it's not the right time, because we
know that Mary and Joseph were going to pay their taxes.
That's why they were writing with her very gravely pregnant

(01:43:21):
at the wrong like it's it's all the wrong timing.
And they did this on purpose because intention matters, and
they use it. Whether you're a gnostic Christian or not
at all Christian, most people do celebrate Christmas in somehow
or another, even Hanukkahs similarly aligned, even though they don't
believe in that. You know, it's all this same timeframe

(01:43:44):
as Saturnalia, which used to be really sketchy. I think
I'm going to put this out as my Christmas episode
because I think this will be a good, a good
little breakdown for people, you know, and it's still uplifting
because we always tie it up good. But I think
that you know, there is something to that full coordination

(01:44:07):
of minds, whether it's just on past loved ones or
Jesus or miracles or whatever that is for people during
this time frame and this alignment which I'm guessing it's
astrology because you know llonaires study the stars, right, yeah, right.
I mean they know they know all this. This is

(01:44:28):
why they send their kids to mystery schools. That You're
never going to understand half of this shit, and neither
will I. Like I try, and I could try till
the day I die, and we will still never know.
There will always be mysteries, right, even for them, right,
But ultimately they know certain things are going to affect
people at certain times of the year. I do think

(01:44:50):
this is monopolized for a reason, and I think it's
really an important time frame for us to switch it
around and try to make it good, which I do
think that might have been the thought process, Like if
I could put myself in an old timey prophet brain, right,
like what are you gonna do with this? Like this crazy,

(01:45:11):
horrible saturn elly is a whole nother level of some
wicked shit, right, So I think they were like, we've
got to get this debauchery under control. But the other
people were like, we're still going to do our shit,
so whatever, Like they everybody went along to get along
because they were like, yeah, we're just gonna go underground
and they're like, yeah, do that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
But yeah, they were Canadians right where they would never
say anything bad about anything, just doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
And that's to this day. Like if you go talk to,
you know, somebody that's completely into the occult, they're not
going to say shit bad about Christianity. In fact, you'll
probably find them in pastor positions or top level positions
because they want them there. If you ever want to
know the Bible really well, just go talk to like

(01:46:01):
a Satanic devil worshiper person. And I don't mean like
antoma ay, I mean for real, you know, they know
it better than you. They count on that, They count
on knowing it better than you, because that's the weakness
they They can't keep it all because it's against remember
that whole legal business. Like I don't I do think

(01:46:24):
they've obvious gated the Bible. I think they've put parts
of it away. I think they've changed word. I know
they've changed words. They changed the devil my name of
God to Lord, which is not good per se. But
he knows our hearts right like he still knows, and
so it doesn't always work because that that legal skill.
Once again, as much evil as in the world the

(01:46:48):
devil knows to play fair and to really keep those souls,
you have to put the good out there so you
can actually have the person turn around and give you
the finger to God and like then he gets them forever. Right,
That's that's the win. The win isn't like I'm just
going to trick them forever. That's not a win.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
So do you think with this this whole, like, you know,
winter season and some people think it's the reset frequency reset,
you know, bringing us closer to God or whatever. But
because there's so much like sadness and destruction and you know,

(01:47:31):
depression and all these things that go on during the
winter months, do you think it's really a reset or
do you think it is a shift from what was
good the rest of the year into like a bad season.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
Well, and it's not even really the end of the
year if you really know, Like April first is the
new year now, but that is the quarter these quarter quills, right,
these magical things that people know that are in the know,
and it is the last quarter okay of the year,

(01:48:12):
and I think they're setting it up for a great,
big high, right, Like that's what Christmas is for me.
Christmas time for me, is so much better than Christmas.
I don't really Christmas is great, but like I can
take it or leave. Bit. I love to do things
for others. I like to coordinate the dinner, or coordinate

(01:48:33):
the pictures, or coordinate you know, you know, the happy things,
like all these nice things. The season is what I love.
And then they know that this is like going to
for most of us now, not all because some people
live in Arizona where it's not terribly bad part you
know whatever, but they know that for a lot of people,

(01:48:54):
this is going to go into some like really bitterly cold,
crappy months where you can't do anything, okay, right, And
I think that they put you on that high for
you to like crash and burn. And we start it
with New Year's by like getting uber drunk and being
like screwing our bodies over and then you're just sick
and everything gets all messed up in your head and

(01:49:15):
you feel like shit for like three days and like
nobody feels that great after like that amount of party. Okay,
that's just not the real like even if you're young
and you can do it again tomorrow, like like there's chemicals. Yeah,
there's shit going on. In your brain that you just
don't realize yet. But and we all move through the

(01:49:39):
motions and then there's nothing for like clear intel, I mean, yeah,
Valentine's But how depressing is that for everybody that doesn't
have a person, you know, like they died or they're
single or whatever. Then that's sad for a lot of people.
You know, the couples kind of get a little strength,
and like I said, they gotta let us have some wins.

(01:49:59):
They always got to, you know, do that tiny little okay,
you know, and so they do what they can, and
then there's nothing really else think about it, clear until
when Easter. I mean so I can think of and
so I think they do this on purpose, and that's
my thoughts. But you know, then it's the new awakening

(01:50:23):
because it's spring. Right, it's all with the more pagan
like people just need to look at some of those things.
But right, and and not everything is bad. Look, not
all knowledge is bad. Like the Pagans knew some shit
and then they still do like they do. But like
if we look at what is important to them, you'll
see that come along, right, And it's the continuous So

(01:50:46):
the golden bough comes to mind, it's the continuous killing
of the king, right right, the birth and read you know,
it's the re killing and you've got the death and
the sadness and then the rebirth. And it's like it's
like that of the world for me, Like I see that.
But people that don't know any of that shit, like
what do they see? I know because I was one

(01:51:08):
before twenty twenty. That was me. And yeah, you get
like weirdly sad after the holidays because there isn't really
a lot to look forward to, you know, for all
these months. Whereas if you really learn to harness what
you have and use that time, like, yeah, I'm going
to be stuck inside, but what a great time to
cozy up and read a.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Book, right, I think a lot of books to that point.
Like it's a good thing to really focus your energy
and attention during that particular season because like, like we
talked about, like everything is heightened for a lot of people,

(01:51:50):
and their depressions out of control and they feel awful
and whatever goes your body is all out of regulation.
So since your eyes, your retina and your eye tissue
has a huge, huge amount to do with processing and

(01:52:11):
manufacturing DMT and DMT works to regulate your hormones and
all of those things. Think about how many people like
during the winter season, never go outside, never look at
the sunlight, and then what happens to your body. You

(01:52:32):
are depressed, You are sick, your achy, your joints are like,
everything goes in the shitter. And it's because you're not
making enough DMT.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Well and you're not channeling. And when I say channeling,
not like new ag channel right, you're not putting your
efforts into things that can be done. This is your
time to that closet ryeah like, or bake a cake
for your neighbor, or go visiting like. These are the

(01:53:06):
things they used to do right now they're mundane, but
they still need to be done. And so that is
really your time to take that. And I always enjoyed
winter because summer is too hot for me. Winter is
a nice time for me. But I always loved reading,
so it was never like a horrible thing for me

(01:53:27):
to be stuck in the house, you know, in the house.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
But then again, if you if you don't have that
open penneal gland right, then you're not critically thinking and
you're not being creative and you're just literally dwelling in
your sadness, your emotions, and people get very complacent and

(01:53:51):
lazy in the winter.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Yes, and then walking like I know not everybody has
a dog, but like walking your dog like that still
happens every day for us, Like all these little things
like going as oh you gotta walk them. You know,
whatever it does, it improves your mood, like if you
don't have a dog. Older people like used to my grandpa,
whether it was cold or not, he would go out
there and walk every morning, like.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Same walkwork, yeah, yep, same and I and I have
to and it's like I need that. I always say
that's like my my battery pack, right or my booster
pack is is being able to go outside because that's
my time to recharge. And so I got to have

(01:54:35):
that connection, and I guess now I know it's because
it makes me make d MT. Yes naturally though then
I can be on my own personal trip. But something
I made and I didn't have to go have it
grown in fungus or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
Yeah, who even knows anymore what they're doing with that
could be scary.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
So one of the interesting things that people talk about
during the winter months. And that's why I kind of
ask you before if if you think the winter months
are a positive thing as far as frequency and energy goes,
or if you think it's a reset to a negative

(01:55:24):
type of frequency, because during that, you know, during the
winter months, that's when a lot of people are like
really focused on angel numbers and they keep seeing like
seven and everywhere, and they look at the clock and
it's got a seven, and you know, there's seven people
in the line at this door whatever. It's like repeating,

(01:55:46):
and so they're having all these little synchronicities going on,
and they have like these like thoughts of our intuitive
like little things about stuff, or they're having like vivid
prophetic dreams, or you know, lots of instances a deja

(01:56:09):
vu and whatever, things that normally wouldn't happen on a
regular basis, but people report like during the winter months
that like really heightens for them. So do you think
it's possible that that's a reset for an energy energy shift?
But not in a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
I think it is the end of it, right, Like
I think the weird negative energy shift starts in like
October is well, probably on the equinox that will go
September right into September and then it and it goes
until you know. This is so I think this is
like the hype, like I said, And especially if you

(01:56:53):
do have like family that you do love and you're
not going crazy with them, and they go home and
every kind of let down, you know, you're like, oh man,
I miss my mom. And even if she drove you crazy,
you're probably still like, damn, I kind of miss her
now she drove me crazy, but I liked it or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
You know, do you live in sodom right?

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
It makes me I know, oh my god, man, And
and you do still think about them, because even if
somebody gets on your last nerve, you're like, damn, I
miss that, Like if you love them, if if you
truly have a love for a person, you can do that,
you can love and not like them very much at
the same time. But you know, all of all of
that stuff is rapping. So I do think this season

(01:57:39):
is definitely a darker time, not only physically right, but
metaphorically speaking. And I do think it's probably why we
do naturally make more melatonin during these months, which makes sense,
you know, and it's probably are meant to h I

(01:58:02):
think it's like that, you know, we're supposed to rest.
We're supposed to like do these things that you wouldn't
normally stop to do, Like you're not going to normally
stop and feel okay about reading a book if there's
ten thousand things that need to be done on a
spring day, you're it gives you more that energetic feeling

(01:58:23):
of get up now and go do the shit like
and I think it's those planting things in our literal souls, like, oh,
you've got to do this so you can eat when
this harvest comes in, you know, like I do think
God programmed us, you know, from obviously a much different
living than what we have, but nevertheless we have to

(01:58:47):
do something with it. And it is a wonderful time,
Like whenever I'm like, oh man, everybody's going to be gone,
like create, Janet's been around me enough to know I'll
just spit stuff out and she writes it down. And
it's a good thing because.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
I don't remember because her mouth goes like a flapperona
goose is out. I remember five minutes later.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
That's absolutely right, And so I mean, and and the
good part about that is I might give you some
really great ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
I probably write one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Yeah, but I do think all of us can do that.
I think like, oh, this is your time to really
get ready to recharge yourself into that new year. Which
is why I think weirdly we make, you know, resolutions,
Where the hell did that come from? All this weird
stuff that we do mean something. Any tradition that you
are talked into, it comes from something nefarious or good

(01:59:44):
one way or the other. And usually it's bad and
they're trying to counteract it with a good Unfortunately, sadly
it's mostly Babylonian shit.

Speaker 2 (01:59:54):
Like I was going to say, make your own traditions
and don't follow that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
And even if you do, like I love tradition because
I always tell my kids I didn't have that, Like,
my family wasn't big into certain things. So I made
that for my family because I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna change this. And my kids would just freak out
if I didn't do certain things because they're like, oh
my gosh, mom, we always do this, you know, and

(02:00:20):
they like it, and I like that they can count
on me for that. But also, you know, there are
times for you where you need to push through the
hard and people now unfortunately and sadly get to a
point where they would rather not be here or they
would just like to end it all or not do

(02:00:41):
the things or whatever that is. And I get that feeling,
but I think our ancestors had more of that, like
like with you know these mind altering things, like where
it gives you that to push through, Like you're not
really supposed to come back if this happened to you,
So it's supposed to give you the ump to get

(02:01:04):
through the scary thing, probably to go to God. Okay,
like there's some process here, but with people going in
and out. I mean, you know, I don't think we're
supposed to be doing poke the monkey with God, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
Yeah, I think I will not take my chances with that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
But that's sad, yeah exactly, because there's obviously something in
between the good and here we got to get through.
So like all of that matters, and I definitely see that.
But like you can also create good things within yourself
without drugs, like I know, it's it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
Without right mind altering, without genetically modified I'm growing in.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
Yeah, I'm not against having a glass of wine or
like beer or something, but when you know that you're
a slave to something and I really don't care what
that is. Sugar, it could be in writing, it doesn't matter.
Food is a really big one. Although I don't think
Americans are quite as gorgey as they say. I just

(02:02:11):
think they're feeding us the worst things period to make
us sicker than the rest, because there's something about us
which is, you know, probably a good thing. But figure
out that something about you. But also don't just keep
it to yourself. Look, that's the same thing with podcasting
that I hate is people will say, don't talk to
this person or don't talk to that person or this
or that, and then everybody harnesses one thing and then

(02:02:33):
you just see it regurgitated on twenty seven podcasts.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
Right like one percent. That's why, like, I really respect
what we do because I have never heard what we
do on any other show before. And it's like different
ways or angles of looking at things or talking about
things that no one else talks about.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
Right And even if you are the Mormon girl, because
that's what I'm labeled, you know, and maybe you would think, Okay, well,
she's done the rounds on all the shows. No, I
have like thirty other things that I have big stacks
of research on because I'd like to learn.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Yeah, like I hear that you are the moist sponge.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
Yes, yes, but you can be too, you can be inappropriate,
just like me and Janet.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
And that is right for a low low price.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
For like, you know, the things that we waste in life.
I guess maybe because I've just been through it so badly.
I think that I've just had so many bad things
happen to me that I really and I'm gonna push
stop this year. I'm I really think that let's see,

(02:03:51):
we're going in the tunnel. Don't look at the purple,
don't don't do.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
It, look away, look away.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
I always have the hardest time, Okay, it is. I
really think that for everything we have, we are not
supposed to hold. We are supposed to share with one another.
Or you know, there's a reason why I made like this, Like, yeah,
she talks too much, but maybe that's because she's supposed

(02:04:17):
to talk to people. Or maybe that's because you're not
a talker and you're not you know, you're supposed to
do this other thing over here. We all have a gift,
you know, and maybe you hate all human beings and
your gift is just to be with the animals, and
I understand that too. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I

(02:04:38):
like but at the end of the day, we've got
this amazing thing where Janet and I are talking clear
across the country. I mean, that's pretty awesome, and we're
best friends from so far. But I know if I
met her we would be like it would just be
peas and carrots because we've been lucky enough to have this.

(02:04:58):
So why would God allow this? Because I don't I
don't think any of this is benevolent. I don't write
this magic. This magic that we're doing is actually benevolent,
but it can be used for benevolence. But how right, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
And that's why, like you said before, being that true, authentic,
genuine person I think protects you a lot of times
from that malevolent stuff because God doesn't want you to
hide any part of who you are. And so when

(02:05:37):
you are true and authentic and genuine and whatever, he
knows that, and that's when you start attracting more of
that to you instead of putting out falsities and the
lies of the mask wearing and all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
Yeah, there's a reason why people wear masks. They're usually
in the club that they have to do that. It
doles who you are, Like each one of us has this,
Like I'm not anything different than any of you. All
of us have our own thing though. Yeah, we're like

(02:06:14):
these colors of a rainbow together. And I just feel
like it's sad because even on my comments on my podcast,
like the week before last, somebody said, stop being like Pollyanna,
choose a side, and I said, what fucking side are
you talking about? Bro? Like that is the dumbest thing
I've ever and.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
Was that comment Choose a side because secretly they wanted
you to choose their side. Well, I'm going to side
with this side that's right and just, and I'm not
going to go along to get along. I'm not a
I'm not a yes person, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
Yep. I've always had problems with that, and that's why,
you know, people want to finish in the club, fit
in the this or that, fit in that cookie cutter.
And if you want to chop pieces off of yourself
to fit in that hole, then that's your prerogative too.
But like, don't punish those of us that don't want
to do that, because we want to do our own thing,

(02:07:16):
you know, and that happens so for people that are
out there that feel alone, because that is the loneliest
thing to feel like you just don't fit. You know,
you're the one and there's always one in a family.
I really believe that. And you're the black sheep or whatever,
you know, but it's it's not that it's like you're
a self thinker. You're you're made differently for a reason,

(02:07:40):
and I think it is good. I don't think that's bad.
I think you know, we're meant to do that, and
we're meant to, you know, teach our families. Like I
kind of feel like God does this because He's like, now,
look you love this person and they're different than you.
So learn But like nobody does, and it's just an
ongoing thing. But we all, like my mom and me,

(02:08:03):
we would never be friends if we weren't mother and
daughter because we are very different human beings, right, and
it's so different. And that's why God puts us together
as a family because then you can learn all about
like she loves animals and she loves being outside. She's
more like you are, you know, she I love to

(02:08:25):
be outside, but like I'm always doing ten thousand things
and I'm missing like the sunset, everything around you because
I'm busy and I'm focused in like I'm a very
hyper focused person and so details matter to me, all
these things that my husband could give a shit, like
he's like, I don't care about that. Look at the sunset.

(02:08:46):
If it wasn't for my husband, I would never see
a beautiful sunset because he's like, hey, pay attention, you know,
get off your stupid podcast or whatever, and and he's
I'm grateful, like look at looking at all of that,
like the people that surround you in your life, that
are put there by God.

Speaker 2 (02:09:04):
They are it's for that balance that we need, right,
and kind of.

Speaker 1 (02:09:10):
Cut people out like that's so shitty. I'm sorry. I
don't give a cat. I don't care. I don't care
if you're crazy, AUNTESTI makes you like the worst human ever,
Like you take a breath and learn it doesn't mean
you have to like it. You can learn to love
the person for who they are, not what they do.
Because we all have our own shit.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
So everybody has it, has their faults, so they're.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Yep, but we know it's challenging, is not cutting, so
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:42):
The the interesting thing though, like like you said, like
you're always so focused and busy. That's because the way
that your chemical makeup is and your DNA is because
you're at organizer, you're a planner, You're you know, you

(02:10:03):
have to be very scheduled and very analytical and methodical
in the way that you think of things, you know,
and then my DNA is very different because I'm very
like I used to be that way and now I'm
like evolving and changing with the way that he wants
me to be, and I'm like calm and docile and

(02:10:28):
stop and smell the roses kind of person now. But
that's why every one of us has made so uniquely
and that's also what makes us have those special qualities
right in our in our DNA and where we can
read the room and have perception. And my level of

(02:10:49):
perceiving things is going to be different than your level
of perceiving things because you're very analytical about stuff. So
I'm going to go ooh, I feel icky, like I
don't like this feeling, and you're going to be like,
I don't like it here because of X, Y and Z.
I'm just going to put a broadject mark and you're
going to have the whole calendar planned, but we need

(02:11:12):
everybody in between because everybody has very different ways of
looking at stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
And we're all yeah. I hate when people say my
husband does this often with his dad as a very
early riser, early to bed, early to rise, and he
always says, why am I not a morning person? I
hate that I'm not a morning person. I hate that
I want to stay up. And I said, what would
happen if we were all morning people who would take
care of the people at night? There's the process, right

(02:11:43):
that are clued into you being the way you are
and even changing, like what you said, changing to evolve
to that time frame in your life because we go
through seasons in our life and it's meant to be
that way. But don't do it because somebody's forcing you
to fit in the hole. If it's God forcing, he'll

(02:12:04):
do it in the best way ever, Like she said,
she evolved like this whole I evolved, you know, into
different things, like it will come differently than just this forceful,
crazy Rockefeller school bullshit. I don't like that, you know,
and I.

Speaker 2 (02:12:21):
Always that And it's a good thing you mentioned the
Rockefellers because who would have known, who would have ever
known that we make our own d MT because that
is not in a book. That's not something you're going
to learn in medical school, nursing school. It is not
in there. And this information is out there, widely available.

(02:12:46):
But why did you even.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Know about your pineal gland until you were like this,
like they didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:12:52):
Well, I knew about it because I had to teach
about it, but I didn't know in depth about it
until after I completely got out of nursing.

Speaker 1 (02:13:03):
Or that you make that you have cannabinoid receptors in
your body.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
For that's not something that's real CAD not not not
bio engineered synthetic GMO and not.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
It's it's once receptors are full, they're.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
Full, right, one hundred persons.

Speaker 1 (02:13:25):
You can't just smoke yourself at oblivion either, but but
obviously it's meant for something, right. It's like nicotine. Same
thing with nicotine, never ever end in my life. Yeah,
I read these studies on this this year because I
want to tell people this. In twenty twenty, with the
crap that happened there, they did some studies on nicotine

(02:13:46):
and all the people that were smoking thought they were
going to die, right, And my.

Speaker 2 (02:13:50):
Mom's actually a narrow protected Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:13:53):
As I said, Mom, whatever you do, don't stop smoking,
like please, because now's not the time, but you should
cut down really like yeah, she needed she needs to still,
And I'm like, but it's it's, you know, too much
of a good thing, right, It's that balance. So every
once in a while now and my kids were just
like flipped out about this because they've never seen Mom

(02:14:16):
do this. I'll pop in a little piece of nicotin gum.
It really doesn't have any effect on me because I'm
a rapid metabolizer and my kidneys function at one hundred percent.
So whatever, I can't say, I know this. If I
chew a four milligram, I will want to throw up,
But the other one's fine, and it protects you during

(02:14:38):
the winter months. If you've been around people that are sick,
they've done studies. This is Gama studies, you guys, this
is true. And if you notice, and especially if you
do it without a lung inhalation, because obviously then you're
taking away the damage, you know, So if you do that,
or do the mint or the pas or anything like that,

(02:15:01):
it will help you. If you've been around sick people,
which is bananas to me. So when I go out
in public, like and I'm shopping because I have asthma
really bad, I'll just do that. And I did that
yesterday just to make sure, you know, because I was
shopping and out and about and whatever, and they don't
want you to know that. You know, my dad, No,
he was so smart and before his time, and I

(02:15:25):
just I feel so bad that he was awake. He
was like a George Carlin. He was super cynical. He
was an inventor, but he didn't realize what he was
up against. And he invented something called nickel lte water
and this is patented. And he did it because he
almost went crazy one time on a flight from here

(02:15:48):
to Hawaii and he said, hey, I just can't go
eight hours at such a crazy If they had delays,
I don't know, but he said, I'll never go that
far again. And he was only marketing it to his
friends in the airline business, like, not to be sold
to anyone but the airlines. But it's still failed because

(02:16:09):
you're talking about big tobacco.

Speaker 2 (02:16:12):
Yeah, well, and hence they demonize everything that they don't
want to get out there, right, and then they prop
up things that make us sicker. And so who has
the most demonization. It's the tobacco industry. And for centuries

(02:16:32):
they use tobacco in healing ceremonies and in sweat lodges
and and you know all kinds of are evadic medicine
and stuff. And why is that. It is because we
have nicotenic receptors in our body.

Speaker 1 (02:16:47):
And sadly they have overtaken that. And now you can't
get anything that's not tainted, even if you grew at yourself,
just like the weed. We know that. You know, the
ground is completely devastated from what they do. You know,
they spray. They've got all these chemicals and everything they've
been putting in the air and the ground and everything forever.

(02:17:07):
But I mean it would still be far cry better,
you know, right, what are they doing? They're putting formaldehyde
in cigarettes, Like I mean really, okay, Well.

Speaker 2 (02:17:20):
Because why let's poison something that would be useful to
a person, right, because they don't want you to get
healthy in the same reason why they don't teach you
about your body making and releasing DMT. Why would they
possibly want us to know that? And now that I

(02:17:42):
do know that, I'm like, oh, Okay, well everything makes
a super huge amount of sense. And the people that
have uber visit or uber visual and colorful dreams and
stuff like that all the time. Now you know why
because you are a super producer of DMT during your

(02:18:03):
rim sleep.

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
Yes, yep. And I mean it's just one of those
things that could trick your brain. So be wise, gentle
as a dove and wise as a serpent. Right, we're
supposed to.

Speaker 2 (02:18:16):
Be serpents are pretty smart. So I found this to
be very highly interesting. And for people who don't know,
December twenty first through the twenty fifth is supposed to
be our rebirth or whatever, and that is cross culturally wise,

(02:18:42):
So if you're struggling in the month of December, you
are expected to come out of that after, you know,
after Christmas is over, even though that's not really Christmas beginning,
it means you're on the upswing of things, and so
all the negativity and the bad and the you know,

(02:19:06):
frequencies and stuff that happened in December, that's going to
end shortly. So you can you know, keep your DNA
and make connection with God and make your kill your relatives. Yeah,
and if you're seeing the Star of Bethlehem. I'm just saying,

(02:19:28):
maybe you're producing a little too much d MT or
you really had a divine vision. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
Just eat some more turkey and go to sleep. Look
it'll be over sea.

Speaker 2 (02:19:40):
Take a nap, George, oh.

Speaker 1 (02:19:43):
Boy, don't worry about it. But don't kill your relatives
why they're visiting.

Speaker 2 (02:19:47):
So yeah, no, probably not a good idea because that
could land you in some trouble and then you might
not have access to d MT as you needed exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:19:58):
And and remember this, love them for who they are,
not what they are. That'll help you out.

Speaker 2 (02:20:04):
True words. So my beautiful Met's Heidie work and they
find you out, my love.

Speaker 1 (02:20:10):
I'm so glad as always to be here with my
wonderful friend Janet. She always brings the heat and we
do some great shows together and I'm thankful for that.
So if you're watching this on her channel and you
don't know where I'm at, i am Heidilove Luv of
the Unfiltered Rise. I'm everywhere podcasts are served. I do
have my own podcast website, Unfiltered rivespodcast dot com, and

(02:20:31):
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this one will likely be out to everyone, but you
will want to go back and see our other shows
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or on my Spotify and Miss Janet. For those that

(02:20:51):
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my fabulous, beautiful bestie, Miss Heidi, we love you. Thanks

(02:21:17):
for tuning in and I hope you learn something today
like I did that we did not know. So have
a good one and we'll see you next time. Bye,

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