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May 21, 2025 50 mins

Ben Shapiro joins Freddie Sayers for a wide-ranging conversation on the future of the American Right. They discuss what Trump has got right — and wrong — in his current tenure, Shapiro’s public criticisms of the president, and his feud with Tucker Carlson.


Also on the table: the growing divide on the Right over foreign policy and “America First,” the rise of antisemitism, free speech double standards, and Candace Owens’ exit from The Daily Wire. One of the conservative movement’s most influential voices, Shapiro doesn’t hold back.


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