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00:00 – Episode Recap
Ben Rein discusses the importance of socializing, likening it to sleep, diet, and exercise, and emphasizing its role in overall well-being.
02:07 – Guest Introduction: Ben Rein
Barry introduces Dr. Ben Rein, neuroscientist and author, and outlines the episode’s focus on the biological necessity of human connection.
03:43 – How COVID Broke Our Social Predictions
Ben shares his neuroscience background and explores how societal shifts and the pandemic disrupted the brain’s expectations for everyday interaction.
08:23 – Barry’s Story: “You Sound Lonely”
Barry recounts a personal moment of realization and how a friend’s observation pushed him to rebuild his social life with intention.
11:29 – Why We Miss the Signs of Loneliness
Ben explains why loneliness often goes undetected, how it manifests as stress, and why virtual connection isn’t enough.
16:44 – The Hard Work of Making Friends
Barry reflects on the discomfort of building new friendships as an adult—and why it’s worth the effort for mental and emotional health.
21:10 – The Neuroscience of Social Fear
Ben breaks down why we underestimate the value of interaction, how fear...
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