April 29, 2024 • 38 mins
Jon returns to the secret military tunnel with his friend and colleague to examine the mysterious element he found previously. What Jon and his friend found next would far surpass their expectations, as they discovered mysterious frequencies in even more tunnels that were meant to be unknown.
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Thank you so much. It felt like it wasn't the end
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of it. And the crazy thing is, there
was another part of the tunnel that was north of the manhole.
What we found on the other end of this, it just creeps me out
because this thing is operating from HV Studio.
This is unnerved. Welcome back to the Unnerved
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Podcast. It's where normal people share
their abnormal stories, and if you enjoy true stories of the
strange and terrifying, then you're in the right place.
I'm your host, Chris Fricke. Today's story might sound a bit
familiar because we have our first returning guest that is
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here to give us an update on theTunnel that he discovered.
This time John went back to the secret tunnel and trust me, you
won't want to miss this update. If you haven't heard the
original story from John, I highly suggest that you stop
this episode and go back a few episodes to the story titled
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Secret Tunnels Beneath Us Part One.
Once you're all caught up, we'llbe right here waiting with Part
2. In today's story, John returns
to the secret military tunnel with his friend and colleague to
examine the mysterious element he found previously.
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What John and his friend found next would far surpass their
expectations, as they discovereda mysterious frequency and even
more tunnels that were meant to be unknown.
This is his story. Just a reintroduction.
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My name is John and I do machinelearning and I work in New
Mexico, southern New Mexico, andwork on a large research area
that's backs up right to White Sands.
It's a part of the missile range, although it's not it's
not the testing area for weapons.
There's a lot of research area out there.
I work with other scientists including physicsists and
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geologists. We have a lot of area to explore
out there and myself and some ofmy Co workers.
When we're out there, if we've got time we like to take a break
for the weekend and hike around.You can just you can basically
get lost area so large you can'treally just hike it.
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And a day like I said it backs up to white sands, so you can
drive all over out there and enter different points of the
parks and whatnot. I have not explored the entire
area. That is part of our sort of
gated research area. We have like these little
research trailers and mine and my colleagues is in one area and
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then like my my geologist scientists are something like
1/4 of a mile away. So it's spread out.
But you know, there's a lot of us, we'll go out there, we'll do
a night of camping or a day of hiking.
And as I told you last time, I came up on a tunnel via this
manhole that was not locked or sealed and after discovering
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these weird sort of cubes down in this tunnel, this very clean
well kept tunnel decided that I would go back with a friend of
mine named Rob who also works with me.
And it's a long way out there. It takes a whole day to really
do this and usually in that areaif I'm going that far I will
camp for a night. Last time I was out there, the
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manhole that I had used they somebody, I'm assuming it was
just part of the industrial military industrial complex.
Part of the scientific communitythat's out there had sealed off
the manhole because there was a fence around it, like a
construction fence, right. And obviously I was not able to
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enter that and it freaked me outa little bit because this was
very soon after I'd been out there.
I was like, what are the chances?
Well, there's two stories I'm, I'm telling you today.
The one is an update to that andone is a brand new part.
The update I'll just give you real quick.
So I tell Rob about all of this and they tell him about the
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maintenance out there and how I was like, well, I think they
just sealed it off. And you know, I'm not sure what
to do about that and sort of nervous whether or not there's
cameras out there. And I was telling him I was
like, I want to find the end of this tunnel.
Where does this thing come out at?
And he reminded me of something that had come through our
emails, and I didn't think anything about it.
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He's like, Are you sure that they were out there because of
you? Big coincidence, right?
If it was, he's like, well, they're working on lines out
here, water lines. Did you see these emails?
And, like, yeah, but OK, you know, OK, they're working on
some water pipes or something. He's like, well, if that's if
there's a manhole there, maybe that's the way they enter it.
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Maybe then I was like, well, it's just a tunnel.
I didn't see anything that wouldbe underground cables or pipes
or something like that. But it did make me wonder
whether or not they were actually out there because of me
getting in there or was it just coincidence?
If they did seal this tunnel, that would be the only entrance.
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I started thinking about it and Rob and I decided to do 2
things. We decided to have A trying to
find the end of this tunnel or both ends of the tunnel,
whatever, and B to see if if we couldn't enter that way to see
if the manhole was actually shut.
So we get off on a weekend and this is this is now as early
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March and there wasn't any snow really out there at that time.
Sort of a warm winter this year and we had to backtrack.
So the first thing we did was I showed him the area I was
camping and where I found the manhole again.
It's basically a whole day to just sort of get out there and
anything you have to reset up. The construction sort of fence
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is gone and we had this time I Ibrought like a a crowbar because
last time I was telling you I like screwed up on my poles, my
hiking poles and it was not sealed either.
Rob is correct. They were working on some sort
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of maintenance water line or something and that was an entry
point or I don't I don't know what else it would have been.
So we get back down there and I we've got flashlights this time.
I've got more equipped this timethan last time.
Got a high beam flashlight and we sort of cover our tracks as
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we camp in. We camp a little bit of ways
from it, like 1/4 of a mile. So it's not obvious go down
there. Rob's super excited about this.
He's sort of mischievous like that.
But we're also trying to be verydiscreet.
We don't want to, we don't want to get in trouble.
But again, it's our land like we're researchers out there.
So sort of have some privilege Iwould say to to explore that and
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pretty high clearance for some things.
Well we get down there and I tell him I was like to the right
basically to the north is going to be these this door and these
huge doors and like a loading dock sort of thing and and these
slabs of whatever they are. But let's go the other way and
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see how long this tunnels and see if we can figure out where
it goes. So we go the other way and it's
a very long tunnel. And I figured, I think I figured
out why that is. But the other way is about a
half a mile. So we're talking about the
entire tunnel being over a mile.Because it the last time I was
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telling talking to you, I was like, it's probably about half a
mile, 3/4 of a mile guessing because of how long it took me
to get out there. So on this way, it was 1/2 mile
from that a manhole. So I'm guessing the other part
was about half a mile too. So it's a mile total.
Well, when we get the other sideof it, the end of it, there are
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doors. It's not this not been blasted
or anything like that, but there's they're shut there.
There's not just like a chain orsomething like that.
They're like sort of sealed shut.
And I was like, OK, we now know where this thing is.
So we're up top again. We're going to find the entrance
on top and see what it looks like.
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We hike all the way back, walk all the way back.
The tunnels again, well maintained, like I was telling
you last time, sealed, There's no moisture in there.
And so we but there's also no lights.
So we get to the other side finally, and there's again, like
that camera I was telling you about.
Nothing's been changed. The doors are still the same and
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they're still unlocked. We go in there and Rob just sort
of freaking out and I'm still freaked out by it.
And it's no less unusual this time around.
We're just looking at them, touching them.
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There's cool the touch. They've got that silvery light
to them that absorbs the flashlight.
There's not a lot of reflective light coming off of.
It's very strange. And Rob works in geology, so he
knows more about that than I do.He had no explanation for it.
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We walked back and forth, explored a little bit, and it's
an enormous warehouse. It's huge.
It's from one end to the next. It's it's going to take you a
while to walk it. And on the other end it's pretty
much sealed. There's like some, there's like
some smaller like an office or something like that.
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Again like sort of a loading area.
There's just not much there that's interesting.
But it is definitely sealed off once you get past that little
docking area. And the only way in and out of
there is through that tunnel andit's big enough and it's got
sort of like a cul-de-sac almostat that end for big trucks to
get in, turn around and get out.And so Rob and I decided that
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the only thing for this tunnel is for the transportation of
this from whatever this is, thismaterial.
So we get back up, talk about it, we discuss it and
everything. And we just were hungry and
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tired, all that stuff. So we camp and the next day,
yeah, we had marked where the tunnel was above ground, so we
had coordinates from GPS and we knew it was South.
It's just a straight S There's no curves in the in the tunnel
or anything. And so we walked to where it
was. Now, this area is not flat.
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There's a lot of like sort of rolling hills.
There's some mountainous areas in that vicinity, Lincoln
National Forest in that area, but the the grade of it wasn't
so steep that you would a truck would really struggle.
Those trucks are so low gear, they can get up that stuff
anyways. But it wasn't super flat and it
wasn't like easy to see because it was.
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The terrain was rocky and hilly the way it was.
In fact, when we got into the area, there was no evidence
really of a trail. There's no evidence of a Rd. but
what it was, was these giant doors that would allow for these
trucks to get through. You could fit an 18 Wheeler
through it and they were just sealed shut.
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They were metal doors. They were bronze sort of color,
but they weren't bronze. They were just sort of that
color and they were sealed. There was not a chain or a
roadblock or anything, like theywere sealed, sealed.
I don't know exactly how you seal something like that.
I'm not a welder, I'm not a engineer.
But they weren't budging. And it was obvious that this
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thing had just been decided thatthey were going to leave it as
is and not it wasn't going to beused anymore.
So I thought when we were in that area, when we were in the
tunnel at the very end next to these, these crates or whatnot,
I said it was sealed off. But it felt like it's hard to
describe. It felt like it wasn't the end
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of it. We decided to go north and just
to see what else could be out there, and we're hiking a lot.
It's pretty exhausting, but it'snot too much terrain.
And the crazy thing is, there was another part of the tunnel
that was north of the manhole, and it was about half a mile.
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It was maybe 3/4 of a mile, a little bit closer.
If I remember Rob telling me, hehad the GPS and it was the same,
like the same size, but the doorto it was like it.
So I had the large doors sealed,but there was a smaller door
that actually led to an office. And we know that because it was
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unlocked. It was just a small little
office on the right side of the tunnel.
If you're looking at the tunnel and there's nothing in it, not
even a chair, just pretty nondescript office of sort of a
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metal built in desk, no monitorsor anything like that.
And then another door on the other on on the northern side of
it that led out into that tunnel.
So this thing's open. And just like the man home
thinking this has just got to beopen because they need to be
able to get into this thing and they've got these doors sealed
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shut, right? They've got to be able to get in
some ways, they're maintaining it and who knows what else.
And this one was much different.It was the same sort of tunnel
and that it had these sort of two lanes.
It was basically like a highway,but it stopped the actual, the
drive. It actually stopped much quicker
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and it was like a parking lot, sort of like what you see on a
ferry. And it was obvious that's what
it was because the lane was like, if you're going one way,
then the lane all of a sudden opened up to two lanes right
next to one another and the other lane did the same thing.
So like, again, like if you're going on a ferry, right, it's
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like 1 lane and then it branchesoff into two on that side and
2:00 on the other side. Same sort of concept.
And I would say it say it would fit about 50 cars.
It's hard to judge. It's dark in there.
It's just hard to judge. The only reason I thought of
that is because of what we foundnext.
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It stopped, it ended and then there was a series of other
doors and when you walk into those, there's a couple of
offices. Again, there's nothing in these
offices. And and what they're not wooden.
The desks that are in there are not wooden and they're not.
They're attached. So they're attached and they're
metallic, so like a metal and they're attached to the wall so
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that you can't move them. But there's nothing else in
there. And it's like, oh, the shape is
almost like a boomerang shape, right?
And there's a series of those and then on the other end of
those, so there's like 2 on eachside.
And then on the other end of those, it opened back up in the
parking lot, the, the driveway, the roads are gone.
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And now it's a series of bunkers.
And it's like metal, metal beds.There's no mattresses or
anything. Like, they're like single.
They're not big and there's justrows of them and they are
double, just like you'd see in abarracks, like military,
military barracks. And on the other end of that was
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like some sort of room that would be a meeting room, an
auditorium. I don't know what it would be
used for, but it was large and it had a series of smaller
tables that, like you would sit at, but there's no chairs.
And these tables again, were metal tables that you couldn't
just easily move. And on the far side, it had what
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was clearly a bar. This.
I know this is getting weird, but I think I know what this
when I when I'm done. I'm going to tell you what I
think this was. The bar had nothing in it except
for the bar. Again, nothing was movable
except for the chairs that weren't there and the bar had
nothing behind it. But it was a bar.
I mean, it was just obvious it had the metallic bar that went
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about say it was about 20 feet and behind that was a section of
storage that you would use for liquor and they even had the
little rails. Couldn't have been anything
else. Rob and I both agreed at this
moment like this has got to be aFallout Shelter.
It's got to be and it's got to be for the for the scientists
here. And we're looking at something
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that is decades old there. There's just nothing else it
could be. As we're walking through there
and just checking everything out, the idea became OK, so this
can fit maybe 50 cars. That's upper classified sort of
scientists and military probablymaybe some of their families,
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200 people in these barracks plus this little sort of sitting
lounge, you know 200 people total.
And we determined that that it has to be for those types of
individuals if there was ever soany sort of nuclear issue.
Now this isn't uncommon. I mean we we know why Los Alamos
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was built and they built the town very quickly up there to
build the bomb and. New Mexico has things like this.
They have sealed off tunnels, ithas underground shelters and
things like this. This is not that uncommon,
especially in these laboratory areas and these sealed off to
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the public areas. So that's not too weird.
But what we found on the other end of this was sort of on the
northwestern end was it just creeps me out to this.
It just there was a like a computer room, a set of old
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looking computers. The exact sort of computers that
you would see in post World War 2 or World War 2 and post World
War 2 up to roughly the mid to late 60s.
Just a row of these computers and a speaker system and a
receiver system. And we didn't hear this until we
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walked in there. You couldn't hear it from the
outside. Everything was pretty well
sealed. But when we walked in there,
there was a faint beeping, buzzing sound.
It was very low. It was like a low frequency.
It was hard to even hear. You had to sort of be close to
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it. And then it would change a
little bit. It would repeat it and then it
would go to static. It would have a pause and then
it would change. The sort of beeps that you heard
seemed randomized. I don't think it was.
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I just think you need some sort of key to interpret it.
And it wasn't SOS. We're just sitting there sort of
listening to it, trying to figure out what's going on here
because this thing is operating and that means someone can being
here, listening to it. Are they recording it somewhere?
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Because these computers don't look like they're on and there's
no recording devices and then comes on a distinctly female,
monotone voice sounds sort of like you would hear Walgreens or
something like that, you know what I mean?
Like that sort of automated voice.
It was like that and it would just give out numbers.
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I have no idea what these numbers mean.
It would be like 5 numbers, fivepause, 516182123.
There'd be a pause and then there would be more than there
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would be more beeps, more staticand no rhyme or reason to it.
I I was just, there was nothing I could do to understand what it
was saying. And occasionally, and this was
only every once in a while, I heard it.
I think we heard it twice total,and we spent like an hour down.
There was distinctly a Russian voice and that was a male saying
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something, a few words, maybe a Simmons or two,
and then it would stop and then the beeps, the sort of buzzings,
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crackling sounds would come back, then would be the female
voice. And numbers didn't seem to
really repeat. I mean there would be some
numbers that were the same. Maybe she said a five each time
or something like that. But most, for the most part,
they were randomized, The beeps were randomized.
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And I we had no idea when the Russian male voice was come back
and the two times we heard it, I'm certain he didn't say the
same thing. And So what we decided they must
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be able to do is they've maintained all of this so that
if there is an actual fallout situation today, those doors can
be open quickly. I'm sure a welder can get those
open within, I don't know, 20 minutes.
I don't know how long it would take that, but they can get in
who they need to get in. Those people have a living
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space, like a place to hang out,a place to sleep, kitchen sort
of area, things like that, storage for canned goods.
And then also like the main little bar seating area.
There was a few other larger offices and just rooms that you
would imagine would be in some sort of Fallout Shelter that
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didn't have any equipment in them at all.
So I imagine whoever is in charge of listening to these
codes has a backroom that is available to them and these
would all be high security individuals.
So I imagine that coated room probably wouldn't need to be
sealed because everybody would have that sort of clearance for
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it or unless maybe they could seal it and I just there just
wasn't sealed, I don't know. But there was no like current
technology. I didn't see anything that would
be like a fingerprint sort of analysis for opening switches
and doors. Everything was mechanical.
Everything was analog. Nothing was digital there.
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So I'm certain, and given the computers, I mean, you just go
on Google, I don't know, 1950s computers and look.
And that's exactly what we were looking at.
So that was what the whole thingwas.
We spent about almost two hours in there just looking around,
and then we went back out through the office.
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We looked for cameras again. It's pretty dark, but we've got
good flashlights. I saw the exact same kind that
we saw on the other side of the tunnel, those sort of boxy ones.
No light to them, no, no indication that they were on.
Oh, and the other thing, on the other side of this, I said like
the northwest of these of these computers in this weird beeping
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mechanism, it had a hallway thatconnected the northwest to the
northeast and sort of kind of looped back.
I am certain that on the other side of that hallway, right
there, and it was like thick, thick concrete, right is the
upper side of the tunnel. So they meet up, but they're
divided by who knows how thick that concrete is.
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It could be 10 feet thick. I don't know.
You've got one tunnel does transportation tunnel for these
this resource, this energy resource, these crates, and the
other tunnel is for shipping in scientists, military personnel
in a fallout event. And that was it.
And then we left, spending some more time camping, looked around
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some more just to see if there'sanything else and there wasn't.
And and then we went, We went back the next day, I guess.
Let's go back to when you showedthe crates to your friend and
everything like that. I mean, did he have any more of
an idea of what the material was?
His best guess was that that material was a raw material that
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had to be melted down, probably with lasers actually, and then
was used in very small quantities along with other
material to strengthen something, to make a very light
material out of it, which makes a lot of sense.
Maybe if you're looking at experimental aircraft, you need
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light but strong materials, maybe some of that is being
shipped out and they have to open the doors.
So they, if it's ever being used, they have to open those
doors and there's no evidence they've opened them and what are
they going to do, keep welding them shut?
That doesn't make sense, right? I mean, maybe it's just
leftover, maybe it's maybe there's other areas that have
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that material and this is just the leftovers, extra storage,
which actually now that I'm thinking about that would
actually make sense that you have a main supply that you're
actually using and then this supply, wherever you got it
from, wherever it came from, it's just storage now and if you
ever need it, I guess you can goin there and get some.
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So when you guys got back from this trip, I assume no one has
still spoken to you about it andno one's approached you or
anything like that so far, right?
Nobody, nobody. And it tells me that it is not
being monitored that in this field, well, in science it's a
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little bit different, but in theareas we work in, the right hand
never knows what the left hand is doing and it that's
purposeful. Most of the time things are
divided and that's a frustratingbecause you need to be able to
share information fluently, likewithout interruption.
Sometimes you can't do that and things get missed.
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What I think is going on here isthat it's old, it's hasn't been
used and forever, but it is maintained, so the tunnel's
sealed. There's no moisture going on in
there. So it's it's sealed properly and
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it's just people aren't interested in it that maybe a
military personnel, one of theircoders spy or something like
that, goes in there and listens to make sure everything's going
correctly. Maybe they don't.
Maybe they haven't been in therein decades.
I don't know. It's feasible to say that the
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new tunnel they discovered wouldhave easily been created by the
military for scientists and local military personnel in case
of a nuclear emergency during the Cold War, but since then it
seems to have been forgotten in time.
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The active frequency that John and his friend found was
abnormal, to say the least. There was no power anywhere else
in the tunnels or the Fallout Shelter.
The only thing being powered wasthe radio.
The strange frequencies they heard were clearly not from a
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local radio station. When I researched the sounds
that John described, I came across a mysterious Russian
frequency called UVB 76. Now, among the hundreds of radio
stations in Russia, there is onethat's seemingly out of this
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world. Instead of music or news, these
broadcasts are of mysterious voices and noises which have got
radio enthusiasts baffled. The sound has been gripping the
imagination of radio spotters worldwide for over 3 decades.
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The UVB 76, also known as the Buzzer.
At first arouse my interest because it is so strange.
Personally, I think it's a legacy device that's been
leftover from the late 70s or 80s from the military operations
at the. Time its original.
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Purpose has been forgotten. VC it's been going like this
since the start, whenever that was.
Sometimes the buzzer stops and amale robotic like voice lists
names and numbers in Russian, some believe is the Soviet
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unions and now Russias contact with spies or even civilizations
from other worlds. Yiraslav has been a radio fan
since his childhood. He's also had his share of the
buzzer, but his explanation of its purpose is much more down to
earth. This sort of connection is
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extremely reliable. It will shut down in case of a
large nuclear explosion, but only for a few hours.
It's not dependent on anything. That's why it's still widely
used today by the Army. The.
Idea is pretty simple. A military radio station sends
out the buzzer, which is received by other army bases.
By stopping the buzzer, the operator signals that a command
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code of letters and numbers is about to be broadcast.
When the transmission is complete, the buzzer turns on
again, Yaroslav said. Moscow's Radio Spotting
community know where the signal used to come from a base outside
of the capital. But this is what we saw there,
and this man is the only living soul we could find on the spot.
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He used to work at the base and still lives in a village nearby.
This used to be one of the best units in the country, but two
years ago we received an order to shut it down.
We were told that consumed too much energy.
There is also another similar unit.
It still operates. Could it be that the legendary
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buzzer used to beam out of this building?
And where is the signal coming from now?
It looks like we won't be able to find any signs of that
mysterious transmitter here, because the equipment was
literally ripped out of the walls and floors of the building
when the base was shut down. But some things are actually
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still here, like this journal with the last entry dating back
to May 2009. During the Cold War, numbers
stations became prolific as highsecurity, low risk spy tools to
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send secret messages to operatives in the field.
However, as early as World War One, espionage agencies were
using shortwave radio numbers stations to broadcast Morse
coded numbers. That only meant something if
someone else had the key to decipher the code.
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But these number stations use more than just numbers to convey
directives. Music beeps, hums.
A woman counting off numbers, a man listing Russian names, and
even a child's voice repeating English letters began to creep
eerily across the airwaves. Russia's UVB 76, also known as
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the Buzzer, is perhaps the most notorious of these numbers
stations and is still broadcasting to this day.
As for the new station's location, it's since been more
problematic to pinpoint. Still, radio enthusiasts
theorize that the station is broadcasting from a few
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different locations near Moscow.UVB 76 and Top Secret
Frequencies is another large rabbit hole that you're welcome
to dive into. And it's hard to say if it's the
exact frequency that John and his friend discovered.
But if you're interested in listening to the live feed of
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UVB 76, I'll leave a link to it in the show notes for you to
listen. Ultimately, the rediscovery of
these tunnels still leaves us with questions.
What is the identity of the mysterious element?
Even with the expertise of John's friend, the answer is
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still unknown. Why was there no electrical
power anywhere in the shelter except for where the radio was?
John's new discoveries still begthe question what's truly
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Thank you so much. It felt like it wasn't the end
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of it. And the crazy thing is, there
was another part of the tunnel that was north of the manhole.
What we found on the other end of this, it just creeps me out
because this thing is operating from HV Studio.
This is unnerved. Welcome back to the Unnerved
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Podcast. It's where normal people share
their abnormal stories, and if you enjoy true stories of the
strange and terrifying, then you're in the right place.
I'm your host, Chris Fricke. Today's story might sound a bit
familiar because we have our first returning guest that is
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here to give us an update on theTunnel that he discovered.
This time John went back to the secret tunnel and trust me, you
won't want to miss this update. If you haven't heard the
original story from John, I highly suggest that you stop
this episode and go back a few episodes to the story titled
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Secret Tunnels Beneath Us Part One.
Once you're all caught up, we'llbe right here waiting with Part
2. In today's story, John returns
to the secret military tunnel with his friend and colleague to
examine the mysterious element he found previously.
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What John and his friend found next would far surpass their
expectations, as they discovereda mysterious frequency and even
more tunnels that were meant to be unknown.
This is his story. Just a reintroduction.
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My name is John and I do machinelearning and I work in New
Mexico, southern New Mexico, andwork on a large research area
that's backs up right to White Sands.
It's a part of the missile range, although it's not it's
not the testing area for weapons.
There's a lot of research area out there.
I work with other scientists including physicsists and
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geologists. We have a lot of area to explore
out there and myself and some ofmy Co workers.
When we're out there, if we've got time we like to take a break
for the weekend and hike around.You can just you can basically
get lost area so large you can'treally just hike it.
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And a day like I said it backs up to white sands, so you can
drive all over out there and enter different points of the
parks and whatnot. I have not explored the entire
area. That is part of our sort of
gated research area. We have like these little
research trailers and mine and my colleagues is in one area and
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then like my my geologist scientists are something like
1/4 of a mile away. So it's spread out.
But you know, there's a lot of us, we'll go out there, we'll do
a night of camping or a day of hiking.
And as I told you last time, I came up on a tunnel via this
manhole that was not locked or sealed and after discovering
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these weird sort of cubes down in this tunnel, this very clean
well kept tunnel decided that I would go back with a friend of
mine named Rob who also works with me.
And it's a long way out there. It takes a whole day to really
do this and usually in that areaif I'm going that far I will
camp for a night. Last time I was out there, the
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manhole that I had used they somebody, I'm assuming it was
just part of the industrial military industrial complex.
Part of the scientific communitythat's out there had sealed off
the manhole because there was a fence around it, like a
construction fence, right. And obviously I was not able to
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enter that and it freaked me outa little bit because this was
very soon after I'd been out there.
I was like, what are the chances?
Well, there's two stories I'm, I'm telling you today.
The one is an update to that andone is a brand new part.
The update I'll just give you real quick.
So I tell Rob about all of this and they tell him about the
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maintenance out there and how I was like, well, I think they
just sealed it off. And you know, I'm not sure what
to do about that and sort of nervous whether or not there's
cameras out there. And I was telling him I was
like, I want to find the end of this tunnel.
Where does this thing come out at?
And he reminded me of something that had come through our
emails, and I didn't think anything about it.
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He's like, Are you sure that they were out there because of
you? Big coincidence, right?
If it was, he's like, well, they're working on lines out
here, water lines. Did you see these emails?
And, like, yeah, but OK, you know, OK, they're working on
some water pipes or something. He's like, well, if that's if
there's a manhole there, maybe that's the way they enter it.
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Maybe then I was like, well, it's just a tunnel.
I didn't see anything that wouldbe underground cables or pipes
or something like that. But it did make me wonder
whether or not they were actually out there because of me
getting in there or was it just coincidence?
If they did seal this tunnel, that would be the only entrance.
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I started thinking about it and Rob and I decided to do 2
things. We decided to have A trying to
find the end of this tunnel or both ends of the tunnel,
whatever, and B to see if if we couldn't enter that way to see
if the manhole was actually shut.
So we get off on a weekend and this is this is now as early
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March and there wasn't any snow really out there at that time.
Sort of a warm winter this year and we had to backtrack.
So the first thing we did was I showed him the area I was
camping and where I found the manhole again.
It's basically a whole day to just sort of get out there and
anything you have to reset up. The construction sort of fence
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is gone and we had this time I Ibrought like a a crowbar because
last time I was telling you I like screwed up on my poles, my
hiking poles and it was not sealed either.
Rob is correct. They were working on some sort
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of maintenance water line or something and that was an entry
point or I don't I don't know what else it would have been.
So we get back down there and I we've got flashlights this time.
I've got more equipped this timethan last time.
Got a high beam flashlight and we sort of cover our tracks as
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we camp in. We camp a little bit of ways
from it, like 1/4 of a mile. So it's not obvious go down
there. Rob's super excited about this.
He's sort of mischievous like that.
But we're also trying to be verydiscreet.
We don't want to, we don't want to get in trouble.
But again, it's our land like we're researchers out there.
So sort of have some privilege Iwould say to to explore that and
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pretty high clearance for some things.
Well we get down there and I tell him I was like to the right
basically to the north is going to be these this door and these
huge doors and like a loading dock sort of thing and and these
slabs of whatever they are. But let's go the other way and
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see how long this tunnels and see if we can figure out where
it goes. So we go the other way and it's
a very long tunnel. And I figured, I think I figured
out why that is. But the other way is about a
half a mile. So we're talking about the
entire tunnel being over a mile.Because it the last time I was
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telling talking to you, I was like, it's probably about half a
mile, 3/4 of a mile guessing because of how long it took me
to get out there. So on this way, it was 1/2 mile
from that a manhole. So I'm guessing the other part
was about half a mile too. So it's a mile total.
Well, when we get the other sideof it, the end of it, there are
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doors. It's not this not been blasted
or anything like that, but there's they're shut there.
There's not just like a chain orsomething like that.
They're like sort of sealed shut.
And I was like, OK, we now know where this thing is.
So we're up top again. We're going to find the entrance
on top and see what it looks like.
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We hike all the way back, walk all the way back.
The tunnels again, well maintained, like I was telling
you last time, sealed, There's no moisture in there.
And so we but there's also no lights.
So we get to the other side finally, and there's again, like
that camera I was telling you about.
Nothing's been changed. The doors are still the same and
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they're still unlocked. We go in there and Rob just sort
of freaking out and I'm still freaked out by it.
And it's no less unusual this time around.
We're just looking at them, touching them.
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There's cool the touch. They've got that silvery light
to them that absorbs the flashlight.
There's not a lot of reflective light coming off of.
It's very strange. And Rob works in geology, so he
knows more about that than I do.He had no explanation for it.
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We walked back and forth, explored a little bit, and it's
an enormous warehouse. It's huge.
It's from one end to the next. It's it's going to take you a
while to walk it. And on the other end it's pretty
much sealed. There's like some, there's like
some smaller like an office or something like that.
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Again like sort of a loading area.
There's just not much there that's interesting.
But it is definitely sealed off once you get past that little
docking area. And the only way in and out of
there is through that tunnel andit's big enough and it's got
sort of like a cul-de-sac almostat that end for big trucks to
get in, turn around and get out.And so Rob and I decided that
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the only thing for this tunnel is for the transportation of
this from whatever this is, thismaterial.
So we get back up, talk about it, we discuss it and
everything. And we just were hungry and
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tired, all that stuff. So we camp and the next day,
yeah, we had marked where the tunnel was above ground, so we
had coordinates from GPS and we knew it was South.
It's just a straight S There's no curves in the in the tunnel
or anything. And so we walked to where it
was. Now, this area is not flat.
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There's a lot of like sort of rolling hills.
There's some mountainous areas in that vicinity, Lincoln
National Forest in that area, but the the grade of it wasn't
so steep that you would a truck would really struggle.
Those trucks are so low gear, they can get up that stuff
anyways. But it wasn't super flat and it
wasn't like easy to see because it was.
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The terrain was rocky and hilly the way it was.
In fact, when we got into the area, there was no evidence
really of a trail. There's no evidence of a Rd. but
what it was, was these giant doors that would allow for these
trucks to get through. You could fit an 18 Wheeler
through it and they were just sealed shut.
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They were metal doors. They were bronze sort of color,
but they weren't bronze. They were just sort of that
color and they were sealed. There was not a chain or a
roadblock or anything, like theywere sealed, sealed.
I don't know exactly how you seal something like that.
I'm not a welder, I'm not a engineer.
But they weren't budging. And it was obvious that this
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thing had just been decided thatthey were going to leave it as
is and not it wasn't going to beused anymore.
So I thought when we were in that area, when we were in the
tunnel at the very end next to these, these crates or whatnot,
I said it was sealed off. But it felt like it's hard to
describe. It felt like it wasn't the end
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of it. We decided to go north and just
to see what else could be out there, and we're hiking a lot.
It's pretty exhausting, but it'snot too much terrain.
And the crazy thing is, there was another part of the tunnel
that was north of the manhole, and it was about half a mile.
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It was maybe 3/4 of a mile, a little bit closer.
If I remember Rob telling me, hehad the GPS and it was the same,
like the same size, but the doorto it was like it.
So I had the large doors sealed,but there was a smaller door
that actually led to an office. And we know that because it was
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unlocked. It was just a small little
office on the right side of the tunnel.
If you're looking at the tunnel and there's nothing in it, not
even a chair, just pretty nondescript office of sort of a
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metal built in desk, no monitorsor anything like that.
And then another door on the other on on the northern side of
it that led out into that tunnel.
So this thing's open. And just like the man home
thinking this has just got to beopen because they need to be
able to get into this thing and they've got these doors sealed
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shut, right? They've got to be able to get in
some ways, they're maintaining it and who knows what else.
And this one was much different.It was the same sort of tunnel
and that it had these sort of two lanes.
It was basically like a highway,but it stopped the actual, the
drive. It actually stopped much quicker
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and it was like a parking lot, sort of like what you see on a
ferry. And it was obvious that's what
it was because the lane was like, if you're going one way,
then the lane all of a sudden opened up to two lanes right
next to one another and the other lane did the same thing.
So like, again, like if you're going on a ferry, right, it's
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like 1 lane and then it branchesoff into two on that side and
2:00 on the other side. Same sort of concept.
And I would say it say it would fit about 50 cars.
It's hard to judge. It's dark in there.
It's just hard to judge. The only reason I thought of
that is because of what we foundnext.
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It stopped, it ended and then there was a series of other
doors and when you walk into those, there's a couple of
offices. Again, there's nothing in these
offices. And and what they're not wooden.
The desks that are in there are not wooden and they're not.
They're attached. So they're attached and they're
metallic, so like a metal and they're attached to the wall so
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that you can't move them. But there's nothing else in
there. And it's like, oh, the shape is
almost like a boomerang shape, right?
And there's a series of those and then on the other end of
those, so there's like 2 on eachside.
And then on the other end of those, it opened back up in the
parking lot, the, the driveway, the roads are gone.
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And now it's a series of bunkers.
And it's like metal, metal beds.There's no mattresses or
anything. Like, they're like single.
They're not big and there's justrows of them and they are
double, just like you'd see in abarracks, like military,
military barracks. And on the other end of that was
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like some sort of room that would be a meeting room, an
auditorium. I don't know what it would be
used for, but it was large and it had a series of smaller
tables that, like you would sit at, but there's no chairs.
And these tables again, were metal tables that you couldn't
just easily move. And on the far side, it had what
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was clearly a bar. This.
I know this is getting weird, but I think I know what this
when I when I'm done. I'm going to tell you what I
think this was. The bar had nothing in it except
for the bar. Again, nothing was movable
except for the chairs that weren't there and the bar had
nothing behind it. But it was a bar.
I mean, it was just obvious it had the metallic bar that went
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about say it was about 20 feet and behind that was a section of
storage that you would use for liquor and they even had the
little rails. Couldn't have been anything
else. Rob and I both agreed at this
moment like this has got to be aFallout Shelter.
It's got to be and it's got to be for the for the scientists
here. And we're looking at something
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that is decades old there. There's just nothing else it
could be. As we're walking through there
and just checking everything out, the idea became OK, so this
can fit maybe 50 cars. That's upper classified sort of
scientists and military probablymaybe some of their families,
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200 people in these barracks plus this little sort of sitting
lounge, you know 200 people total.
And we determined that that it has to be for those types of
individuals if there was ever soany sort of nuclear issue.
Now this isn't uncommon. I mean we we know why Los Alamos
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was built and they built the town very quickly up there to
build the bomb and. New Mexico has things like this.
They have sealed off tunnels, ithas underground shelters and
things like this. This is not that uncommon,
especially in these laboratory areas and these sealed off to
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the public areas. So that's not too weird.
But what we found on the other end of this was sort of on the
northwestern end was it just creeps me out to this.
It just there was a like a computer room, a set of old
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looking computers. The exact sort of computers that
you would see in post World War 2 or World War 2 and post World
War 2 up to roughly the mid to late 60s.
Just a row of these computers and a speaker system and a
receiver system. And we didn't hear this until we
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walked in there. You couldn't hear it from the
outside. Everything was pretty well
sealed. But when we walked in there,
there was a faint beeping, buzzing sound.
It was very low. It was like a low frequency.
It was hard to even hear. You had to sort of be close to
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it. And then it would change a
little bit. It would repeat it and then it
would go to static. It would have a pause and then
it would change. The sort of beeps that you heard
seemed randomized. I don't think it was.
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I just think you need some sort of key to interpret it.
And it wasn't SOS. We're just sitting there sort of
listening to it, trying to figure out what's going on here
because this thing is operating and that means someone can being
here, listening to it. Are they recording it somewhere?
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Because these computers don't look like they're on and there's
no recording devices and then comes on a distinctly female,
monotone voice sounds sort of like you would hear Walgreens or
something like that, you know what I mean?
Like that sort of automated voice.
It was like that and it would just give out numbers.
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I have no idea what these numbers mean.
It would be like 5 numbers, fivepause, 516182123.
There'd be a pause and then there would be more than there
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would be more beeps, more staticand no rhyme or reason to it.
I I was just, there was nothing I could do to understand what it
was saying. And occasionally, and this was
only every once in a while, I heard it.
I think we heard it twice total,and we spent like an hour down.
There was distinctly a Russian voice and that was a male saying
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something, a few words, maybe a Simmons or two,
and then it would stop and then the beeps, the sort of buzzings,
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crackling sounds would come back, then would be the female
voice. And numbers didn't seem to
really repeat. I mean there would be some
numbers that were the same. Maybe she said a five each time
or something like that. But most, for the most part,
they were randomized, The beeps were randomized.
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And I we had no idea when the Russian male voice was come back
and the two times we heard it, I'm certain he didn't say the
same thing. And So what we decided they must
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be able to do is they've maintained all of this so that
if there is an actual fallout situation today, those doors can
be open quickly. I'm sure a welder can get those
open within, I don't know, 20 minutes.
I don't know how long it would take that, but they can get in
who they need to get in. Those people have a living
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space, like a place to hang out,a place to sleep, kitchen sort
of area, things like that, storage for canned goods.
And then also like the main little bar seating area.
There was a few other larger offices and just rooms that you
would imagine would be in some sort of Fallout Shelter that
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didn't have any equipment in them at all.
So I imagine whoever is in charge of listening to these
codes has a backroom that is available to them and these
would all be high security individuals.
So I imagine that coated room probably wouldn't need to be
sealed because everybody would have that sort of clearance for
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it or unless maybe they could seal it and I just there just
wasn't sealed, I don't know. But there was no like current
technology. I didn't see anything that would
be like a fingerprint sort of analysis for opening switches
and doors. Everything was mechanical.
Everything was analog. Nothing was digital there.
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So I'm certain, and given the computers, I mean, you just go
on Google, I don't know, 1950s computers and look.
And that's exactly what we were looking at.
So that was what the whole thingwas.
We spent about almost two hours in there just looking around,
and then we went back out through the office.
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We looked for cameras again. It's pretty dark, but we've got
good flashlights. I saw the exact same kind that
we saw on the other side of the tunnel, those sort of boxy ones.
No light to them, no, no indication that they were on.
Oh, and the other thing, on the other side of this, I said like
the northwest of these of these computers in this weird beeping
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mechanism, it had a hallway thatconnected the northwest to the
northeast and sort of kind of looped back.
I am certain that on the other side of that hallway, right
there, and it was like thick, thick concrete, right is the
upper side of the tunnel. So they meet up, but they're
divided by who knows how thick that concrete is.
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It could be 10 feet thick. I don't know.
You've got one tunnel does transportation tunnel for these
this resource, this energy resource, these crates, and the
other tunnel is for shipping in scientists, military personnel
in a fallout event. And that was it.
And then we left, spending some more time camping, looked around
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some more just to see if there'sanything else and there wasn't.
And and then we went, We went back the next day, I guess.
Let's go back to when you showedthe crates to your friend and
everything like that. I mean, did he have any more of
an idea of what the material was?
His best guess was that that material was a raw material that
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had to be melted down, probably with lasers actually, and then
was used in very small quantities along with other
material to strengthen something, to make a very light
material out of it, which makes a lot of sense.
Maybe if you're looking at experimental aircraft, you need
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light but strong materials, maybe some of that is being
shipped out and they have to open the doors.
So they, if it's ever being used, they have to open those
doors and there's no evidence they've opened them and what are
they going to do, keep welding them shut?
That doesn't make sense, right? I mean, maybe it's just
leftover, maybe it's maybe there's other areas that have
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that material and this is just the leftovers, extra storage,
which actually now that I'm thinking about that would
actually make sense that you have a main supply that you're
actually using and then this supply, wherever you got it
from, wherever it came from, it's just storage now and if you
ever need it, I guess you can goin there and get some.
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So when you guys got back from this trip, I assume no one has
still spoken to you about it andno one's approached you or
anything like that so far, right?
Nobody, nobody. And it tells me that it is not
being monitored that in this field, well, in science it's a
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little bit different, but in theareas we work in, the right hand
never knows what the left hand is doing and it that's
purposeful. Most of the time things are
divided and that's a frustratingbecause you need to be able to
share information fluently, likewithout interruption.
Sometimes you can't do that and things get missed.
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What I think is going on here isthat it's old, it's hasn't been
used and forever, but it is maintained, so the tunnel's
sealed. There's no moisture going on in
there. So it's it's sealed properly and
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it's just people aren't interested in it that maybe a
military personnel, one of theircoders spy or something like
that, goes in there and listens to make sure everything's going
correctly. Maybe they don't.
Maybe they haven't been in therein decades.
I don't know. It's feasible to say that the
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new tunnel they discovered wouldhave easily been created by the
military for scientists and local military personnel in case
of a nuclear emergency during the Cold War, but since then it
seems to have been forgotten in time.
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The active frequency that John and his friend found was
abnormal, to say the least. There was no power anywhere else
in the tunnels or the Fallout Shelter.
The only thing being powered wasthe radio.
The strange frequencies they heard were clearly not from a
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local radio station. When I researched the sounds
that John described, I came across a mysterious Russian
frequency called UVB 76. Now, among the hundreds of radio
stations in Russia, there is onethat's seemingly out of this
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world. Instead of music or news, these
broadcasts are of mysterious voices and noises which have got
radio enthusiasts baffled. The sound has been gripping the
imagination of radio spotters worldwide for over 3 decades.
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The UVB 76, also known as the Buzzer.
At first arouse my interest because it is so strange.
Personally, I think it's a legacy device that's been
leftover from the late 70s or 80s from the military operations
at the. Time its original.
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Purpose has been forgotten. VC it's been going like this
since the start, whenever that was.
Sometimes the buzzer stops and amale robotic like voice lists
names and numbers in Russian, some believe is the Soviet
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unions and now Russias contact with spies or even civilizations
from other worlds. Yiraslav has been a radio fan
since his childhood. He's also had his share of the
buzzer, but his explanation of its purpose is much more down to
earth. This sort of connection is
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extremely reliable. It will shut down in case of a
large nuclear explosion, but only for a few hours.
It's not dependent on anything. That's why it's still widely
used today by the Army. The.
Idea is pretty simple. A military radio station sends
out the buzzer, which is received by other army bases.
By stopping the buzzer, the operator signals that a command
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code of letters and numbers is about to be broadcast.
When the transmission is complete, the buzzer turns on
again, Yaroslav said. Moscow's Radio Spotting
community know where the signal used to come from a base outside
of the capital. But this is what we saw there,
and this man is the only living soul we could find on the spot.
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He used to work at the base and still lives in a village nearby.
This used to be one of the best units in the country, but two
years ago we received an order to shut it down.
We were told that consumed too much energy.
There is also another similar unit.
It still operates. Could it be that the legendary
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buzzer used to beam out of this building?
And where is the signal coming from now?
It looks like we won't be able to find any signs of that
mysterious transmitter here, because the equipment was
literally ripped out of the walls and floors of the building
when the base was shut down. But some things are actually
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still here, like this journal with the last entry dating back
to May 2009. During the Cold War, numbers
stations became prolific as highsecurity, low risk spy tools to
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send secret messages to operatives in the field.
However, as early as World War One, espionage agencies were
using shortwave radio numbers stations to broadcast Morse
coded numbers. That only meant something if
someone else had the key to decipher the code.
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But these number stations use more than just numbers to convey
directives. Music beeps, hums.
A woman counting off numbers, a man listing Russian names, and
even a child's voice repeating English letters began to creep
eerily across the airwaves. Russia's UVB 76, also known as
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the Buzzer, is perhaps the most notorious of these numbers
stations and is still broadcasting to this day.
As for the new station's location, it's since been more
problematic to pinpoint. Still, radio enthusiasts
theorize that the station is broadcasting from a few
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different locations near Moscow.UVB 76 and Top Secret
Frequencies is another large rabbit hole that you're welcome
to dive into. And it's hard to say if it's the
exact frequency that John and his friend discovered.
But if you're interested in listening to the live feed of
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UVB 76, I'll leave a link to it in the show notes for you to
listen. Ultimately, the rediscovery of
these tunnels still leaves us with questions.
What is the identity of the mysterious element?
Even with the expertise of John's friend, the answer is
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still unknown. Why was there no electrical
power anywhere in the shelter except for where the radio was?
John's new discoveries still begthe question what's truly
beneath us? Thanks again for listening to
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