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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
On your break today.
Unpaid Lunch.
Og Crew is back in studio.
Well, pretty much.
Og Crew is here talking aboutthings to do in the workplace
other than work.
All right Time to clock out forlunch.
Welcome in to unpaid lunch.

(00:38):
Thanks for spending your breakwith us, that's going to have to
get cut.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
This is Heavy D Rhino Keys here.
Monroe Fucking OG crew.
Well, not.
Og Andrew's not here.
That's twice.
We mentioned him twice in a row.
I thought he was going to showup tonight.
Really, yeah, I thought hemight come by, but no, he's
asleep.
That happens a lot that doeshappen.

(01:06):
So we've not been here in awhile.
We made some false promisesbefore.
If you don't know us by now, welie about things we tell.
I wouldn't call them lies, I'dcall them more like gifts of
fiction.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Fabricated truths that I present Fabricated truths
.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
That sounds good.
Well, it doesn't sound as goodas a gift of fiction.
If I give you a gift, monroe,do you want a gift?
Yes, it's a gift of fiction.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
If I tell you I fabricated something, it
probably makes you think thatI've been down in a garage doing
a lot of work sweating tearsfor you.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's not how you pitched it to me.
I would have agreed with thatyou would have sold me if you
just said that.
I said the word fabricationyeah, no, you didn't, you said
fabricated, same fucking it'snot fabrication sounds cool.
You put in on the end of theword, that's right sounds very
fallout for it.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
So you make a body kit for my dodge neon, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'm there, or you could, or it's a lie.
See round and round we go.
Welcome back hustlers.
Um sorry, my bad who?
My bad?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
rhino's got heartburn no, it's not so much the
heartburn, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Those didn't mix well together well, you know what
they say yeah, for results, notfor flavor oh that yeah do they
say that?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I say it um.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Love to say we have a lot to talk about.
Love to say we have a lot totalk about Everything.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's the same old shit.
For me it's just a differentsport.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
It is Complete transition straight back into it
.
You can't help it Covered up.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I spent all day today going and buying a new baseball
glove Because my son destroyedhis other one last night, blew
his out, yeah, blew it all topieces.
Yeah, same glove.
It was actually already fairlybroken in, so I mean it went out
in the yard and through andstuff like that.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Shit's so expensive.
Three times is what it used tobe.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, the glove that he got was $80 a year and a half
ago and now it's $75 today, sowin-win.
Inflation didn't get that bitch.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Clay had to have a first baseman's mitt.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And they sent the wrong one.
Specialized mitts are expensive.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
They sent right-handed.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's the problem.
I went to two different placestoday just begging and pleading
to see if anybody had aleft-handed thrower's, catcher's
mitt.
Nope, nah, you gotta wear thatshit from guam.
Yeah, they don't exist, prettymuch like I asked the guys like,
do you ever get these in?
He's like man, hardly ever.
And as soon as I get them in,there's such an anomaly that
people would get them just toresell them.

(03:33):
So that sounds about right sosticking on sports.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
What's got me, um inspired about our uh drive on
this episode?
Things we do at work other thanwork.
And it's because of MarchMadness going on that's what was
in my head that this has to bethe time of the year that people

(04:03):
get the least work out ofemployees.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It has to be.
That's one of them.
I'd say this week-long stretchis right there.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
It's like Thursday and Friday nobody was fucking
working, Everybody was justwatching college basketball.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So you got that every year.
I mean this is kind of more orless in like a two-month pocket,
but whenever the whole entirejob site starts doing fancy
football drafts, oh yeah, that'sanother big one.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, and now that everything's moved up, it's all
the same.
Now, yeah, because the draftsmoved up, so everything's gonna
be, everything's gonna happenfaster what should but?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
it surprised me how much that people starting to
really fade, uh, redraft format.
People are really getting intoDynasty.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh yeah, Dynasty is taking over the world.
You guys are welcome.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Dynasty is taking over the world.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
We've been rolling in that before it was cool right.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, that one we're what Year seven?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
eight, yes, I think year eight.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I mean I know some people have been doing freaking
Devi baseball since the 90s.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, but that's different.
Baseball was fantasy.
Baseball was around way before.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh yeah, way before anything else that's what it
came from back when we firststarted fancy football.
We done it from the sundaypapers, dude.
That's how we kept track of.
We manually kept track ofscores and stuff from sunday
paper, because not everybodyaround here had the internet to
build and set up rosters ony'all we literally live for it.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Man, me and rhino ran a league.
We still kind of have one.
We count it as the same leaguewhenever me and him are in one
and we just add people to it.
Yeah, but we had a leagueforever that was, um, me and him
and uh uh, steve steve was init.
Steve baker was one of the wasone of the main ones, larry, and
then Wayne and then rest inpeace.

(05:47):
Charlie was in a little bit.
He was in it a few times withus usually the rest of it was
revolving door.
Robbie was in it once, I think.
Robbie Ryan Maggard came in onetime we did that forever and we
did the drafts live.
We did the drafts live on aboard, no fucking computer.
I don't mean like Copiousamounts of alcohol.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I don't mean like that would be fun.
I think, oh dude, it's the bestway to draft.
I swear to.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
God, it was the best fantasy football experience.
It got me hooked and I've beenchasing that ever since.
And the dynasty we do with Jodyit gives me that feeling
because we only use Sleeper asthe source to hold our
information.
Yeah, we do pretty mucheverything outside of Sleeper.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Shout out Sleeper sponsors.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, shout out Sleeper.
Hey, we've been on Sleeper.
We were on Sleeper beforeeverybody else was.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
We started porting over pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
We were on it when it was beta.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now, one thing that they try to do all the time with
jody and y'all's.
It's usually, you know,predicated on weather and stuff
like that, but jody lives a hopand a skip down that back yeah
you know back row pass thefootball field.
So they talk about doing like40 yard dash and field goal
kicking competition only did itonce, since I've been there
there's always food we have, wehave a great time.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean, it's not, we have a board, we do it on a
board and it's the same thing.
Yeah, but we did.
That's what ryan was talkingabout, about doing it from the
papers.
We did literally, we did thescoring and everything on a
whiteboard, like I did it myself, like we and ryan would split
the teams and we do it.
We did the scoring, we foundthe scores in the papers, the
stats in the paper, and and likeand done all the scoring and

(07:24):
our scoring was outrageouslyinsane because there was no
guideline, because we didn'thave any idea what everybody
else was doing.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Quarterbacks are scoring like 4,000 points a game
yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
The most obscure shit ever.
But it doesn't matter, we weregiving them like one point per
passing yard.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, like insane.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
And when you look back on it, it doesn't matter,
because numbers like if you justdrop a decimal point off of it,
it's the same thing anyway.
If he got 40 instead of 400,you know it's like it doesn't
matter.
Um, especially when there wasno status quo, there was nothing
, we were the first ones doingit like nothing to go by not the
first ones doing it, but youknow we were together here and
technology hadn't found its wayto a humble mountain.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh, yeah, to be.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Kind of sucks, don't it that we like when we started
doing it online.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh God, no, no, like there's parts of this that sucks
, yeah, but like those Sundaysor those Mondays, sucked those
Mondays yeah those.
Mondays and Tuesdays were awful.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, because me and him grinded our asses off
getting stats.
Here's the thing.
Yeah, because me and himgrinded our asses off getting
stats.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Here's what you've got to think about.
There was not an onlinedatabase to set your roster, so
what everybody did we'd havelike a group text going on and
it's like all right, by Thursdaythere was no Thursday night
football games.
Really at that point in time,it was only like one Thursday a
year, so by like Friday night,everyone had to text your
starting lineups.
Okay night everyone had to textyour starting lineups.

(08:47):
Okay, it was wild.
And then you had, we put it ona board that he kept, and that
was when he was living inwhiteburg.
Yeah, we literally had like oneof your two bedrooms was
literally just fantasy footballshit and like literally you'd
have to put it on the board ifyou done trades.
It had to be manuallycalculated.
Like we had one white boardthat was just people's rosters.
It was awesome.
Free agency was non, wasnon-existent.
We didn't really do it.
Yeah, like you drafted prettymuch what you had, because

(09:07):
there's no way to keep eachother.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You did free agency when there was injuries.
It was the only time we evenfucked with it.
Really, Yep, If there wasinjuries, it's the only time you
fucked with it.
And now it's, like you know,constantly all the time football
going on and we're fucking withthe rosters right now.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
That's why I love my dynasty now.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I like to get into a dynasty league if we have
somebody drop out.
I considered you because Ithink everybody knows you in
that group.
It's Puckett you're dependabletoo and it's Puckett yeah, it's
Puckett and Jody, and you're aSteelers fan.
So if you're losing, losing,you won't give up.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
That's true, it's pucker.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Jody nate lies, yeah you literally know everybody but
two people yeah, and we reallydon't know them.
Two people danny, danny fielddanny filled in for somebody who
never, never was involved inwith it.
Yeah, danny's never involved,literally.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I forgot he was in it till just there's another one
that you can send trades don'tyou forget he's in it, I know, I
know danny's there, but there'sanother one you send trade
offers to and he won't read themfor like six months, and then,
all of a sudden, you know likethe only person that can reach
out to them is Jody.
Yeah, it's funny, it just feelskind of a little bit like a
sham, yeah, it seems bad, butthe thing is like on Dynasty.

(10:20):
completely different thanredraft is players that hold
value on a year-to-year basis,like your Derrick Henrys and
stuff like that in the world.
In a redraft you're going totake them mid-first, late-first,
early-second.
Things change obviouslyyear-to-year, but Dynasty you
want to build for the long haul.
Yeah start young.
Yeah, you want to start youngwhen you can.

(10:42):
Or there's some people that'slike hey, I know Everybody in
this league If it's a buyingleague.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I know everybody in this league Is going to try to
go young, go for low haul.
So I'm going to go For that lowhanging fruit and just try to
Pounce on that.
First championship Right offthe bat.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Because I've heard.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
About the trades.
The rookie draft's the funnestpart of it.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
So that's something during season at work.
Man sleeper app is like afavorite on my browser.
Yeah, sleeper app is constantlyup just like rolling through
shit, especially during freeagency season or when we're
coming up on the draft and doingmocks and shit, I got one right
now.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's bad and I know Key will agree with this
Monopoly go.
Y'all are fucking dude sheplays it there ain't no fucking
way, you play as much as her.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's so bad.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I started playing two and a half weeks ago.
I'm on like board 96.
It's a problem.
It's such a problem.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, y'all, I ain't playing it.
It's not even a real game,right?
You just fucking move around.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
It's literally just spamming.
Dice rolls and listen.
The only reason I attack you isbecause it always brings you up
.
It's you.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, you're at the top.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Samantha and Ron Fugate Bree.
It's you, yeah, you're samantha.
And ron fugate brie.
Yeah, my wife, my mother-in-law, my father-in-law, my
grandmother-in-law, and then,like two other people, james win
.
Shout out jimmy guilliam.
Hey, holler at us.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
If you, if you play monopoly, go y'all fucking
comment on it and and leave thatshit so blow my shit up.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, they can add you.
It's so much fun.
I'm still not playing.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
There you go, they're showing, oh, they're doing.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Oh wow, Flakes and.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Look at this shit.
Yeah, look what I caught.
She fucking walked in today andwas like I got my, Said it, oh
yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
She's got my net worth doubled.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Doubled your net worth.
Doubled Four dollars to eightYep it's bad, you can play this
album yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, the about how you doing.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
How you doing Everything going all right.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
You quit your job, yet I wish as soon as.
I get these bills paid off,though, as soon as they fucking
go, and you had to have a sideby side, didn't you?
I had to.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Had to have a fucking side by side.
I wasn't working.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Now you fucking, now you working all the time your
I'm 80 years old Trapped in a 30year old Party.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Y'all just keep going .
I got some, y'all just keep.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Fucking rolling he's.
You got some rumors.
You need to take care of Somerolls.
Oh, some rolls you gotta takecare of.
Fuck the rumors.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Listen, your shields are all gone.
No, my shields are intact.
This is the best podcast.
I'm number 11 right now On mytournament setting, so you know
what's.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I think we'll talk about our numbers on the show,
because it's impressive thatanybody listens to the show.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
It is my impression.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Let's pull that up, let's see what that looks like
the whole time you want me topull the fucking numbers up.
I got you boo you pulling themup.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I looked at them a little bit the other day, but
I'm more worried about trying toget people to listen to Wayne
West and talk to me.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I had there.
Did you listen to the rest ofthe recent episode?
I can't.
You need to because Wayne'strying to start a feud with you,
with me, about turnbuckles orsome shit.
God damn it, I can't fight withstupidity.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I ain't doing that.
If you put me on that oneepisode, me and he'll be
somebody will cry.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I think it's what we need.
Bro is a crossover episode.
We get Wayne and Weston in here.
I don't think you'd ever.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
There is a laugh button.
You just try to generate thatheat.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Oh yeah, there's not a laugh button.
Sorry, We've been talking aboutdoing it.
You want me to add one rightnow 9000.
Wow, I hope 15 people listen tothis episode.
We're going to download it 15times.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I'm going to download it 15 times, just so I can say
bitches, we got there.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Never downloaded it.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
We're going to do it.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
We're going to make shit happen Never even listened
to an episode.
I'm lying, but I never listenedto it.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Making fetch happen right now.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I do listen to the other one because I'm confused
about everyone's making Fitchhappen right now.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I do listen to the other one because I'm confused
on it.
Where did it go?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Where did it be?
I'm paid lunch.
What cards?
Mike's cards, mike's flashcards?
Where are Mike Adams flashcards?
Hold on, stand by.
You guys got to talk.
There's download.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
You guys got to talk.
There's a download.
Just throw up a sign that saysout to lunch.
We'll return in a moment.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
He said fucking nothing.
I said you guys talk for asecond.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Let me grab these.
I told you I'm downloading shit.
I'm trying to get us to 9,000.
Oh God.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
All right, the idea is downloading this all night
long Fix fucking bot numbers.
Yeah, since it's baseballseason, oh God, all right Ideas
down on this all night long, fixfucking bot numbers yeah, since
it's baseball season, oh God,read one we're not even going to
read them.
Why is the shift the worstthing to ever happen in baseball
.
It sounds like she pops up whenshe.
It sounds like she pops up.
What was that shit it's like?
Next question why is the shiftthe?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
worst thing to ever happen in baseball and then we
start talking about it now youdirect correlation, though you
want to talk about things thatdistract you from work and shit
not getting done.
Man, opening day is coming upquick I'm pumped about it in
japan.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
What's?
Already happening it alreadyhappened in japan yeah, listen,
tre Trevor Bauer.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I want to hit a sensitive subject here.
Have you followed the wholeentire Trevor Bauer situation
Not recently?
Okay, so I'm a firm believer inif you do shady shit, you get
shady repercussions right.
So he got in trouble for someviolent sex acts a few years

(16:39):
back that he claimed the entiretime were consensual and agreed
upon by the receiving party.
She said otherwise and went tocourt.
I would not be making any typeof Consideration saying, hey,
everyone, look at Trevor Bauer.
If everything came back andsaid this dude's a sex pervert.

(17:01):
Yeah, you're not pro sexualassault, I am not pro sexual
assault.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
For the record, not pro sexual assault.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
So Found not guilty, everything got dropped, or
Nickelodeon.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Have you seen all this shit?
Shut up, vince McMahon.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Wrong company.
This one's just not got exposed.
Nickelodeon have you seen allthis?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
shit.
I think Disney's been exposed abunch of times.
I think, yeah, you're right,this Nickelodeon stuff's crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
That's what I earlier today.
It was gas, but Trevor wascompletely found either not
guilty or everything was droppedthe whole way through.
Just hardcore.
He's in hardcore shit, whatever.
So now he's being blackballed.
He is hitting 99 mile an hour.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I was going to say he's playing good baseball right
Over his last four starts inJapan.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
He has thrown 30 innings.
He has a 2.06 ERA.
I think I'm autistic.
I remember all this.
Yeah, you remember thosenumbers this last start three
hits, 12 Ks, nine inningsshutout.
No one will give the man acontract.
Stay sad.
Pr nightmare people are gonna pno matter where.

(18:21):
Nah, but I also think.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I also think uh, is it the colin?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
kaepernick treatment.
Oh, are we kind of are we surepeople care.
Except he's white, that's true.
Are we sure people care?
I don't know.
What do people care more about?
Like kneeling for the nationalanthem.
Does he win?
People don't care.
If you win, he wins.
If you win, people don't know.
What do people care more about?
Like kneeling for the nationalanthem Does he win?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
People don't care if you win, he wins.
If you win, people don't care,he wins.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
You know what Colin Kaepernick?
He's a PR nightmare right now.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
If Colin Kaepernick was a Super Bowl winning
quarterback, everything wouldprobably have been okay.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
That last start.
What was it?
Four picks Kind of screwed him,yeah, Although I was kind of
curious if my bolts would end upeven looking at him, since
we've got Harbaugh and Roman, soI mean there's that.
I hope you all do somethingwith Herbert.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I really like him.
Monroe wants a quarterback,Monroe wants another one.
He just wants you to stackquarterbacks on top of each
other.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
He's trying to make one good quarterback and they're
trying to put all theirquarterbacks.
Three equals one.
If you start stacking them ontop of each other without
consent, you end up in Japan.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Hey, speaking of Japan, is Shohei Otani going to
get a lifetime ban?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I know there's a lot of free Pete Rose, because it's
real sketchy free pete rosemoving around right now real
sketchy, uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
And boy, right now there's the spotlight.
He's the best player inbaseball he might be the
greatest player of all time.
Are you gonna do it or not?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
700 million dollars.
Man I know her million dollarman.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So I don't know he could cut a baby's head off in
the middle of the field and theycouldn't suspend him probably
not billy long post earlier.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
He's like literally free pete rose into the hall of
fame.
Free reggie bush's um trophy.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, dude, reggie bush's heisman trophy is the
most bullshit, it's morebullshit now with an aisle, it's
more bullshit than pete rosebecause of an aisle.
I was like hey, that shit thathe didn't get that title for I
mean so the other day at work,I'm gonna talk about rabbit hole
derrick rose's is different,right, derrick rose's?
Uh, derrick rose was cheatingon a test yeah, right it's not,

(20:23):
it wasn't money.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
No, his was eligibility.
Now, this was someone.
I can't remember exactly whatit was bush but it was financial
implication.
Um, got down a rabbit hole atwork the other day while I was
processing payroll and it wasthe whole entire.
Did you all see the?
I can't remember I don't knowif it was court proceeding or if

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it was some type of it was sometype of shit that Nick Saban
spoke out against the NIL on.
Did you see it?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh, I didn't see that he spoke out against it.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh yeah, he said it was the driving factor for why
he retired.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I can see that.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, Started talking about how him and his wife had
this.
It was like a brunch kick-outtype thing for all the recruits
coming in.
They'd invite their whole entirefamilies.
So he would go out and meetwith the players, meet with the
dads, and his wife would staybehind with the mothers and kind
of talk about what him and herwere going to do together as a
family for their kids, how theywere their extension of their

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family now and how they weregoing to turn them into young
men and gentlemen.
And this is, and this and Isaid over the last two years
things that got a little bitweird.
His wife pulled him to the sideand said we're not doing that
this year, right?
He said what do you mean?
She?
She said there's no point in itanymore.
She said we don't need to havethe cookout.
He's like why?
And she's like because wheneverI pull the parents aside and

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I'm telling them what I'm goingto do and what we're going to do
as a family for them, they'reasking me how much money we're
going to pay them.
They don't care about it.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They don't care about it, they don't want to do more,
and that's why he doesn't wantinvolved with it.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Nope, and you know Like listen, I respect Saban to
a degree right there, like theman was a trailblazer in
recruiting.
You see them old videos of himgoing out and dancing and stuff
and acting like a damn fool andpeople hated it.
But when you're winning, Well,you know the direction.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know the direction you're going down and
you know what I'm going to talkabout next.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
If you're recruiting and you're winning, it's not a
problem.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Right, but if you're recruiting and you're not
winning, and you're losing thefirst round of the SEC
tournament, who the fuck's going?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
to pay that $34 million buyout.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Somebody's going to have to pay it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
You have to pay that and the new coach, yeah, who's
going to pay $34?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
million buyout.
Here's what I think.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, I think Mitch Barnhart's a fucking idiot for
giving him that contract.
Here's what I think.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I think he's not going to lose his job this year.
No, he can't.
It's not financially, I think.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
if you lose him, you lose the recruits.
Oh, you will.
Whatever he does, At some pointthat's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Look answer me this, answer me this Name three
coaches that you'd rather havethan Calip right now, mark Few
immediately right top of my list.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I see a lot of people talking about Bruce Pearl.
I mean I don't.
I say no, we said that and Isaid, if you have to, get rid of
Cal.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
You can't put somebody in place, that's Cal,
right.
You have to put somebody inplace.
That's a young dude who isgonna well, mark.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Few's not that young, no, but it's gonna do something
different.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Shaka Smart kind of washed himself, I think, though,
because he had a bad coupleseasons somewhere.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, he faded in security.
But anyway I think I'll tellyou, the one that most people
want is Billy Donovan, buthere's the problem Wherever Cal
goes, that recruiting class goestoo.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, and there's probably only we were talking
about earlier.
There's probably only four orfive teams in the country that
wouldn't fire their coach forCal.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
So that's kind of the problemImmediately Almost everybody
would just fire their coach.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I was like the only ones that wouldn't are the
people who are going to be inthe Final Four this year.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
So I'll tell you where he ends up at Duke, would
fire that dude and hire.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Cal.
I'll tell you where he ends upat right now.
Call him a shot.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
University of Southern California.
Oh really, Because LeBron,Because the connection LeBron
just about came to the UK.
Because the connection I knowthat's what I'm saying because
the fucking connection, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I can see that he takes an Italian mob with you to
Southern California.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
He'll win a national championship with USC.
We're talking about recruitingpower and then all of a sudden,
bronny comes back sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
USC I'm calling it that would be.
So that's what my hot seatdoing something other than work
is on the hot seat, because allthe Kentucky fans now we're just
going to be doing work.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I literally almost deleted Facebook for like three
days.
I haven't watched UK basketballin like two years.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
College basketball is dead to me.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's the same shit.
Anybody that's said since like2019 that something was going to
change, you're delusional.
Yeah, I've not been watching it.
It's wild to me when I sawprognosticators the other day
saying that Reed Shepard wasgoing to be the number one pick
in the NBA draft.
I was like, damn, this is adown NBA draft If we're talking
about Reed Shepard being thenumber one pick when he's not

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even a fucking starter on UK'steam.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Number one pick in the draft.
It's crazy.
They're talking about it and hedon't start Six foot three
Shooting guard.
It's crazy, I think.
If Cal, how about?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Dynasty Sports.
Let me trade All my first roundShares If Cal did come, if Cal
did come back.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
How many of those boys he could get to stay Like
Reed's gonna go.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I still think Reed stays.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Really I think he stays.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Just for the name, cause his mom and dad, yeah,
depends on the draft process,and I don't care who your mom
and dad is.
If someone tells you You'regoing to be the first pick In
the draft and you're guaranteedA bag full of money, you're gone
.
That's true it is a big bag.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, but he don't need money.
They don't need money that myfamily don't.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
But sure he's got infinite nil deals too well
here's the thing though he's, ifhe's guaranteed to be a lock
yeah, I agree, in this year'sdraft he's not gonna be next
year no, no, no, he's not and hecould get hurt.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I mean, you have to go, you go, you have to go I
mean nil is its own thing in andof itself.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
um, a lot of people say, hey, you know, if you're in
football you don't leave afterjunior season Now, you stay for
your senior year, et cetera, etcetera, because you're still
making money.
But if I'm a player, I want toget through that rookie contract
as quick as I fucking can andget the big bag.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I just don't know, because they're talking about
players staying now because theycan make more money If they're
not going to be a top five pickthey're going to make more money
in college than they are in theNFL in pros.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
In the long run it's actually probably half.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
They said they can get a full education and make
the money they were going tomake as a pro.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I ain't none of them going to school for a freaking
education, ain't?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
none of them.
Some of them yeah, but theywill if they're going to stay
four years and get paid for it.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
They have to because they're going to stay four years
and get paid for it.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Well, yeah they have to because they're going to have
to be eligible.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Well, that's what I'm talking about.
I mean, if you're going to bethere, you have to do the
schoolwork.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's what I'm saying.
They're all going to get adegree in.
What's the degree you get forbeing an announcer?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh good, no, it used to.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
The big one was God.
What was it UK?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
It's a.
Or not physical science, butlike science of Public relations
was one of them.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, was a big one Science of broadcasting or
something.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's the one that you like to get into the
broadcasting field.
And then there's another one.
It was basically a humanitiesdegree, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And then, if I can, just to get a four year degree.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
It was a bachelor's of arts.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Listen to me bit idiots bullshit what fucking
idiots having a degree?
That's what they get, but yeah,that's, we're not going to get
to.
I'm not going to get to watchany, because it's all dead to me
.
I don't know if I'm not goingto watch any more college
basketball, so instead I'm gonnaum, you see, someone put a
sixty thousand dollar bet onduquesne.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Wow, that's a lot was duquesne hasn't won a game
since 69.
They put $60,000 on them tolose by five and they won by 12.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Why would you bet $60,000 on something that they
were probably?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
They were favored to lose by 10.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Why would you put that money on them?
I don't understand that.
Something else to do instead ofwork.
That's related to sports alsois when all of us are going to
be taking a week off work, theweek that NCAA 24 comes out or

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NCAA 25 comes out.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Listen, I've already got my whole entire freaking
month lined up for that.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, I really I'm going to delete myself from
everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Talk about content creation, my God, so listen to
this Monroe.
I'll talk to him about it.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I'm pumped about it All right.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Here's what we're going to do.
We're going to make a YouTubechannel.
We are going to, depending onhow many owners or coaches or
whatever you want to call it,ads, whatever it is, you take
that many people.
Let's say it's 30 teams.
You build out a 30-team league.
I've already got the logo built.
I've already showed it toDustin, so you take the cover

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art of the game and replace it.
Have you ever seen the moviethe?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Program Mm-mm.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So it's about college football.
Literally, I've taken theprogram like the actual dvd
cover art and put it over top ofncaa 25.
Okay, so basically what we'regoing to do is I'm going to
treat it like espn.
Every single coach that getshired into the role, we're going
to interview them about yourrecruiting.
We're going to do interviewsand segments about your games.

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There's going to be rules andstipulations in place.
So you know, traditionally NCAAfootball does a scale of one to
five in terms of how powerfulyour program is.
You can't do anything above athree-star.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
So you have to start at a three.
Like Calgo Bears, ArizonaWildcats, something of that
nature, Arizona will probably bebanned.
I won't let nobody use Arizona.
Why?
Because traditionally they willbe a three-star platform school
, but they've got one of the topfive quarterbacks in the
country this year and arguablythe number one wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Arizona does.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Oh yeah, Big Milan and Noah Fafita.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I think his name is Noah.
I know his last name is Fafita,but he's probably top five
quarterback and easily thenumber one or number two wide
receiver.
So it's a three-star team thatyou're just getting studs.
Yeah, it's busted.
So basically, you take thethree-star platform school and
you play through the firstseason.
Ideally, what I would like todo is every person gets at least

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one user game.
So when we go through buildingup schedules like, say, you're
in what used to be the pack,whatever you're in the SEC or
whatnot, normally you twowouldn't play.
But I won't try to find someway to where everyone in the
league plays at least one usergame and then just progress
along your recruiting strategiesand things like that.

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You do a big special when allof a sudden someone gets a job
interview and kind of interviewthem.
See, how what their decisionmaking process is for getting
that job.
I think it'd be fun as fuck Ithink it's awesome.
I do full like.
I've got people all the wayover in brathen county that's
interested in it already I thinkyou get people all over the
country doing it.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I mean, I think you get people in different places
doing it I think it'd be awesomeso that's you know, I'm down
dying to do.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
And that's the thing is there's other strategies
coming to place, like I've donea 15 man before that.
We ran it for actually probablysix or seven seasons.
It was a good time.
Um, I was the first person toget a five-star, a five-star
program, not because I was good,but because I was smarter than
everybody else.
Everybody went to the SEC.
Everybody went to East Coastplatforms, like somebody went to

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.
We didn't do the three-starlist in that one.
No, yeah, we did, we did.
But most people went ACC, sec,big 10, big 12.
I went all the way out west.
I took California.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I'm the only person Recruiting Fucking west of Texas
, recruiting on that side of thecountry.
Yeah, so I think that firstseason I went like 11 and 1.
Because we didn't havemandatory user games.
So all 12 of my games wereagainst the computer.
We were playing on Heisman.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
And I think I lost to USC or no, it was Oregon when,
oh yeah, and I think I lost toUSC, or no, it was.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oregon, when Oregon was really good.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
They fucking dismantled me.
I got offered Oregon.
Oregon head coach got fired itwould have been Chip Kelly.
Then he got fired and I got thejob.
Everyone else is still fightingwith each other, going fucking
like eight and four and shit outon the East Coast.
I'm like, eh, you coachingOregon.
I had Oregon with all ninefucking thousand jersey options.
It was awesome.
Oregon's the best team ever tohave.
They're hard to recruit on thatgame oh really nobody wants to

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go to oregon.
You think they do like back inthe mariotta days, but nobody
wants to go up there in thatfucking rain yeah, nobody so my
goal was to try to have a coupleseasons there and then come
down to USC.
That was my goal, my dream getdown to LA, start recruiting
there.
I think I ended up at Texas,though, if I remember right, I

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ended up at Texas.
I'm all about it.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I think we can get people in on it.
I mean people would do it forsure.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, it's fun because you have the Heisman
part right, so naturally.
What's fun?
Because you have the Heismanpart right, so naturally, when
you got a bunch of peopleplaying user teams, all five
Heisman hopefuls are from userteams.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, and they're trying to fucking, and then
everybody's trying to just putup the most losing games
astronomical, god-awful statsI've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I had a guy.
He's like man.
The only thing Ron does throwthe ball.
He's gonna throw 25 fuckinginterceptions big.
He's going to have 7,500passing yards.
I had 500 yards passing thegame.
It was like a Cliff Kingsburyoffense.
It was nuts.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
He said you can't even run the ball.
I was like what the fuck?
Next year I literally took andrevamped my whole entire offense
with my recruiting class.
I was at Texas.
At that point I had asix-foot-tall 225-run back come
in with dreads.
I put a visor on him and Ichanged his name to fucking
Ricky Williams and I rushed for2,500 fucking yards.
I just fucking forged it downpeople's throats?

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I didn't.
I was like who's running theball now, bitch?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I ran an offense that was literally just it was
literally three yards in a cloudof dust, oh, and I ran the
clock out, and I ran the clockout.
I had the ball for a wholefucking quarter.
I had the ball for a wholequarter and score, and then play
solid defense and had the ballfor another quarter.
I ran 10-3.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah that's all the team was.
I won a Heisman with adefensive player.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Awesome, that's hard to do in that game.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Back then they had a nickel 155 prowl blitz oh.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I love a nickel 155 prowl blitz.
Oh, I love the nickel 155.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
If he was good with a free safety.
Yeah, the only hole in theentire defense was the running
back.
If someone put the running backon a flat outside and just
dumped it outside, or was ableto get the option out quick,
they were gone.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, 75, 80 yards every time.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
So you had to be really good playing that free
safety and matching and watchingwhere the tailback goes.
If that tailback sits in thebackfield, the block, you blitz,
yeah, you blitz with that freesafety right up the gut, if not.
Wherever they go.
Screens hurt too, because itwas a nasty blitz.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
It's worth it though.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
You bring it.
So If you recruited presscorners, I would recruit the
slowest fucking corners in theworld.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
I didn't care, but they beat the shit out of people
.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Listen.
It was Yokozuna on the freakingline, Like Edmund Honda.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Hands slapping people .

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I'm like you ain't fucking going nowhere.
You gave me seven-tenths of asecond that Blitz was getting
home.
I love that shit.
I'd rather the 85 feet corners.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's what I'm saying.
That's got me excited.
I'm saying my mom was talkingabout today.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I could sit and talk about this all day long.
I'm not even got the show yetthis year because I'm so excited
about the NCAA football yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm not going to show anything, I'm not playing it, I
ain't got time.
That's what I didn't have time.
But my mom was talking aboutand I was like well, I've got
enough PTO for a vacation, butwhen college football comes out,
I'm taking like 24 hours of it.
I was like so I'm at leasttaking.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I've got five days.
Right now I'm bankrupt.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, I'm off Saturday and Sunday so I was
like I can take Monday andTuesday.
When's it come out?
I think it comes out on aThursday, so I can take like
Thursdayursday, friday, saturday, sunday.
Yeah, that'd be long enough forme and ryan to build well, I'm
wanting to get to seven daysthat way.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well, right now I got five days, so that gets me.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, but we can off consecutively yeah, and, and we
could build the infrastructurefor one and do a practice one oh
god yeah and see if we couldget.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I'm gonna have six going at one time yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I'm excited about it Just take off work, quit your
job, they're going to put meback on site.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
They will, because you have to play that fucking
game.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I'll have to go back on site.
I'll do it to myself.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'll make myself go back on site.
I will.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, because you do too much shit, I'll get fired.
Played a lot of Apex March fromhome.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Did, did a lot of that shit.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I don't even now like I've been working at home now
for about three months and Idon't play any video.
I know you don't do anything.
That's what like what I did in.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
What I did instead of working um shop on ebay, uh,
play video games, watch youtubeI boost my uh battle pass on
fortnight, every day so sincethey've added the guitar hero
shit.
Yeah, there's a festival mainstage and there's a jam stage,
like a side stage, and there's afour quests that you get every

(37:21):
day.
That attributes to daily, andthen you get a weekly and it
bumps your actual battle passlevel up by like three every day
you do it.
So I'll pull up fortnight andI'm like, okay, I need to go and
I need to play this song forthree minutes on drums and I'll
set the controller and I'll letthe control down and I'll start
working.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
It's like all right now I got to change it to bass
guitar.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm going to start working again.
I got to get my like three orfour day levels of my battle
pass in every day, but that'sabout all I do.
I don't fight with fuckingsales all day long.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
This has nothing to do with anything we're really
talking about, except for Chrisat work.
Shout out Chris, chris Hibbs, Iguess Congratulations, you got
applause.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
The yawns.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Chris at work Wanted me to play Helldivers with him.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I've heard good shit about Helldivers yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Helldivers is awesome .
I started playing it.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I've heard it's good.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah.
So here's this thing I do.
One of my friends that I wantto hang out with more and want
to play video games with willsay, hey, would you like to play
this game?
And I'm like, yeah, I wouldlike to play that game, but I
don't have time to play thatgame, so I'm not even going to
get it.
And I'm like, all right, I'mnot going to get it.
And then I hang out with them alittle bit more and they talk
about the game.
That's all I talk about is thegame.
I'm like, all right, man, I'llget it, but I'm not going to

(38:44):
play it.
I'm not going to.
It was destiny and I played itand then I'll get it.
Problems and I'll get it.
And I played hell divers neverwith him.
I played about four times.
Sounds better, right?
I played about four times whenhe was asleep.
I played and then I got into itand never played it again.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
So I spent 40 dollars .

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Randoms, just cuban I played with randoms a little
bit, man, but like, if I want toplay with randoms, I'll just
play something.
I want to play randoms.
Like if I'm gonna play randoms,I'll play another fucking game
I can play with randoms.
Yeah that I know how to play,I'll just go play.
I'll just go play shipment oncall of duty.
Like I can fucking just run ashotgun around and throw
grenades and blow a bunch ofshit up.
I don't care you're right takeme back to warzone.

(39:30):
When it was good, though, takeme back to take me back to I
enjoyed warzone first came outgod it was so fun that's just
well.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean that br is dead.
What was the first br?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
it came out they got pub g was it pub g pub g was the
first one, because pub g was amod right on.
Pub g was a, a mod on a gameand then Fortnite.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Fortnite came thereafter.
Call of Duty was the last.
I think it was on the last.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, Warzone was definitely later than everybody
else's BR.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
What helped with Warzone is a lot of people
didn't want to do the buildingaspect of Fortnite.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yes, you shoot somebody in the fucking left
butt, cheek, and all of a suddenthey build the entire piece.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
The problem with Warzone was there was too many
Call of Duty players.
I know that sounds dumb, but itwas too much Call of Duty.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
If you play, PUBG.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, pubg is a totally different game, dude.
It's slower, yeah, and if youget downed, it's so sweaty to
kill downed people on PUBGBecause PUBG is different than
Warzone.
That PUBG one-hit kill Likeyou're dead.
If you get shot, you die.
If you get shot, you die.
It's realism.
You have a little bit of armor,but you don't like run through

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a field and get hit four times,you're dead.
And I think it was so sweaty tokill somebody that was down
because if you reveal yourposition, you die.
Like on the game.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
So, looking at it hindsight, there's some things
that just don't make sense to me.
You have battlefield thatarguably really battled with
call of duty.
How could they never get a br?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
dude.
The whole game is a fucking brwhy didn't they do it?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I don't know why they never got that they could have
just took the game and made it.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
You know that mode on the game, like the main mode
you play on battle.
Did you play battlefield by now?
You put battlefield much.
Do you play it?
K, did you ever play it?
So that mode on the game that'snot just tdm, that mode where
you have to take the, yeah, the,it's like conquest it's fucking
br it's.
It's a br like.
That's what I was.
It's crazy that it's not likethe buildings never work for

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halo.
I know halo was tailored, madeto be a br you know, you know,
like, oh man, halo would be sucha good they could do it now.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
They could do it now, yeah, but here's the one that
will be.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Ours are dead, so they couldn't do it now I
wouldn't say they're dead, Idon't know, because fortnight's
like barely a br anymore.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
I mean the no bill mode really brought, brought it
back.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, you know some people play the game for a lot
of different reasons.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, I mean I play it for the guitar here that's
what I'm saying.
People play it's like robloxbut the lego survival mode that
they've added it's, it's, it'sroblox, but it's kind of one of
those things.
Now it's a one-stop shop, youcan do a little bit of
everything.
Fortnite was brilliant inchanging that business.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's Roblox.
Here's the one that I've beenbanging on the chalkboard for
years now.
Borderlands, dude, borderlands.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Because it already feels like a BR Borderlands,
Like it's the game that saysthat you basically have One
trillion different Gun.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Possibilities.
So Apex, what's his name?
Jetlegs, octane.
Octane Is a BorderlandsCharacter, bro.
I mean Like His whole gimmick,his whole gimmick Is a bandit,
right, his whole gimmick is that.
And it shows you that thatwould be just it.
You would just fall out of thesky as a bandit.

(42:58):
You know what I mean, as,whatever you would fall,
everybody could be a bandit.
It'd be perfect.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Well, you could set it up, even like with the four
main classes.
Yeah, oh yeah absolutely Likeright now, like pretty much play
apex.
You have a scout.
We should make video games.
That's what I'm saying.
You have a scout, you have hey,remember a guns archer remember
when you ran, when you?

Speaker 1 (43:17):
this is let me tell you this, let me tell you this
this is not anything you believe, right, because it sounds like
bullshit.
This is the most bullshit thingever.
That is real.
That happened to me and ryanand it really it sounds like
bullshit.
Madden ultimate team.
Do you know what we're talkingabout?
Madden Ultimate Team?
Right, ryan, me a little bit,but Ryan mainly Ryan had a huge

(43:40):
part in the creation of MaddenUltimate Team, like of it, of it
existing at all, and who was onit and what it did.
The dude who created it talkedto ryan on a daily basis about
how it was working 9-11 and yeahand, and how it would, and how

(44:01):
everybody was gonna like things.
Ryan had complete hat.
Ryan was like borderline gamedeveloper, oh yeah, and and if
we knew things we knew now heprobably would have used that as
an end to get in with that guy,but we were I mean, you know,
we were young dumb and broke.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
It was a beta launch that came well into the efforts
of Madden.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Madden had been out a while before they added it, I
think it was.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Madden Breeze was on the cover, yeah.
So basically, madden came outand they were like we want to
build out this card, like wewant to build up this card
structure, we want to build thisout and see how people feel
about it.
I got involved, got invested init, really got him twisted into
it.
Uh now through forums yeah, itwas basically ran through the ea

(44:45):
forums.
Um, I'll never like guys like,uh, there's a mad labber.
Never will forget him.
Ej NFL has a bunch of us, butthere was like seven of us that
were main contributors to it.
I swear to God that I wassingle, was working in the mind
and you know mind and industry.

(45:05):
At the time I bet you I spent noless than five grand on Madden
ultimate when it was coming tolife and if I got to the point
where I wasn't spending anymoney on it, they was giving me
coin basically saying go here,break this, do that.
That was when I originated andme and three guys honed and
built out the Nickel 155 ProudBlitz.
Darren Sharper was your freesafety.

(45:26):
There were certain players thatyou build out.
They were even asking us Like,what players should we build
cards for?
It's like we have the basemodels, but what do we do?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
They created the powder blue LaDainian Tomlinson
For Ryan in the game.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I built Tomlinson out .
I built out a 99 overall.
Jason Taylor, for the Dolphinsyou had CJ2K and that sounds
like a made-up story, but but itreally.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
It really was happening like real time.
I was fucking helping write agame started out like we're out
of mode.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Let's do random drops .
Let's say on tuesday, now it'sall the way through the message
boards that these three newcards are coming out they're
added in there.
These are chase label cardsthat you go through.
Um then, once it progressedfrom that, we actually started
suggesting well, what if we doone of like right now in a big
thing in the uh, in the cardindustry now with autographs and

(46:24):
stuff like that is a one of 100, one of 99 things like that.
Uh, we started doing.
Uh release cards like that ontuesdays.
Remember deshaun jack your ideawas the deshaun jackson jackson
.
There was a.
He had a punt return.
It was really big.
One weekend dusty said, uh,push that.
Uh, deshaun jackson, puntreturn from like week 12.
We pushed it.

(46:44):
That was the first one theybuilt.
They done 100 of them.
But then they were like man, wecan make a whole lot more money
if we done more than 100 copiesof copies of this card.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Like what do we do?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
a thousand of them yeah, yeah, we're short changers
.
So was it a thousand?
I can remember it was a hundreda thousand no hundred.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
It was a hundred to start out.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
So we started out.
That was, I think, the only onethat actually got a limited run
, because we realized guys y'allain't making money this way
yeah, you gotta, you gotta get asteadier launch.
Uh, back then there was noalbums.
Uh, there's no collectionpieces.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
It was so basic.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
It was so basic, you capped out it was better you
capped out at 99 999 coin, yeahit was, there was no trade
auctions were real.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
There was auctions.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
But like, all of a sudden, everyone and that's what
was crazy about it, is itdeveloped its own secondary
market.
It became magic the gathering.
Yeah, and it was not what weanticipated.
Yeah, and it's what was crazyabout it is.
It developed its own secondarymarket.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
It became Magic, the Gathering yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
And it was not what we anticipated.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
And everyone's like well, this Adrian Peterson card
is quite clearly the bestrunning back card.
It's worth more than $99,999.
We're like, okay, cool, there'snot a way to trade.
So how do you do this?
So then we started having tobuild out like secret handshake
deals because you could go andsearch.
The search parameters forauctions was skewered, um.

(47:58):
But if you honed in on onespecific price, it's like okay,
monroe, I'm gonna sell you thisadrian peterson, but here's how
it's gonna work.
I believe that this card's worth350 000 gold.
So I'm to sell you three cards,four cards at 99 full 99 cap,
and it's gonna be bullshitsilver cards.
You're gonna give me the money.
All right.

(48:19):
Then at that point, once we getto the point where we've evened
it up, we're gonna sit in anobscure price.
It's gonna be like 34 568.
That way you search for thatexact amount.
Yeah, we both get into an Xboxlive party.
We say one, two, three go.
We search the same timetogether.
You get your card.
Then it developed a snipingmarket.

(48:42):
People would learn what mineand your code is and what I
would post shit for.
And if I?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
posted.
Hey, I want this CJ2K peoplewere prowling the forums, people
were getting $400,000 cards forfive grand.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Me and Dusty would broker a sale for a CJ2K, but I
knew Dusty posted his shit for$34,568.
Oh yeah, I'd watch y'all'sinteractions back and forth on
that thread and then I'd sit andspam that fucking button for
about the next six hours.
I would sit there and just spamit and I'd sit and spam that
fucking button for the next sixhours.
I would sit there and just spamit and I'd snipe your car.
Oh yeah, then both y'all bemessaging me saying, man, it's

(49:17):
bullshit, we agreed on a deal.
This is bull.
I'm like sorry, man, I bought acard.
I found an auction.
That's the thing.
That's where me and mad lab andej got really involved as we
became forum police.
It's like, basically, we builtout a trusted, non-trusted list.
This is people that's donefive-star reviews on their

(49:38):
trades that make the list thatyou should sail with God.
If I could have made that intoa career.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Well, almost.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, I'd be like Ronnie fucking 2K.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
But you wouldn't have this podcast.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Fuck, I'd be like ronnie fucking 2k but you
wouldn't have this podcast.
Fuck, I'd be building maddencards that I'm.
In terms of video game.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
It's the most fun I've ever had yeah, you'd have
been a good game developer thatwas the most fun that I ever had
in my life with a video gameoutside of maybe I don't know.
We had a lot of good times withMadden Madden in college.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Listen Destiny was really big With Charlie.
We played with Destiny's.
I mean I built a lot of friends.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
You played with Charlie.
Did you play with us andCharlie A little bit?
Yeah, yeah, we played withCharlie, fucking, we probably
had.
We had hours and hours, I'lltell you.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I spent more time with Drew and Tybo.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Oh, yeah, Drew and Tybo.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Drew and Tybo, so I spent a lot of time, but Destiny
had a lot of hours involved.
It was the RNG on that.
Once they took away the RNG andmade everything quest-driven,
the game lost its luster.
For me it was like you hadpeople.
Obviously they were pissedbecause they'd been playing the
game for freaking eight monthsand never pulled a call.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
That's something I do instead of work was play on
that fucking Destiny app andcustomize my dude on that
fucking Destiny app the wholetime.
Fuck with that.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
The whole time.
I'm telling you right now if atsome point this is going to be
a career, that means you'regoing to start.
We're going to make an appwhere, literally, you just get
that dopamine rush for openingshit.
Yeah, they'll just literallyjust offer people five bucks
just open random shit.
Yeah, I mean, that's all it is.
It's a fucking, it's aneurotoxin pretty much, because

(51:18):
it's.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
It's not crates, baby , it's nuts.
You think you just pay.
Give me a dollar and you open a.
Look great but that's.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
That's why I love the ultimate team.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I know, dude, god, it's like I would sit and just
fucking open.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Ultimate team packs all day long Magic Arena.
And all of a sudden when thatfreaking graphic dance on the
screen, you're like, oh, there'sthat.
Nnamdi Awesome Wad.
Baby, nobody talks about NnamdiAwesome Wad, nnamdi.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Awesome.
He was the best fucking corneron the game.
Get fucked that guy.
For about four years that guywas berserk.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
He was nuts.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Berserk, he was nuts, honestly dude, you could not
throw on his side of the field.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Listen, in closing I'm going to stop after this.
But in closing, defense JasonTaylor at right end.
Okay, warren Sapp.
At middle.
There was a mean Joe Green.
No, mean Joe Green wasn't thereyet.
What was the other D tackle?
It was a Will Fork.
The other rush defensive end wasDerek Brooks.

(52:12):
He was supposed to be alinebacker but we played him
there.
You didn't play any linebackersother than a middle linebacker.
That was Ray Lewis, because hewas running a 155, so you ran a
shit ton of corners, but yourmain corners was Darrell Revis,
revis Island, essentially, andyour Nnamdi Asamoah that was
your press guys.
It was Revis Island essentiallyand your Nnamdi Asomwa.
That was your press guys.

(52:32):
Strong Safety was Ed Reed thatcame up and played man, and then
you ran the Darren Sharper.
It was the only 99 that wasn'ton the team, but the 98.
It was nuts.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Remember there was a night train lane that was busted
forever.
Not on that game Not on thatone, but a lot of retro.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
retro didn't come out until later.
Yeah, During the beta you stillhad to be an active.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Couldn't throw over top of that train.
He was seven foot tall.
Yeah, he was stupid, couldn'tthrow over top of him, but you
still had to be active NFL PA tomake that beta list.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
So like Jason Tyler was like on his last legs with
the Jets there, so that's how hewas able to get some of those.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
So that's kind of what we need to let our
employers know is that if we arerequired to work on the week
that the college football gamecomes out, I'm not working, I'm
not working, I will not beworking.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I ain't doing it, nope check out Unpaid Lunch.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
We're on everything.
We want you guys to comment andmessage us, interact with us.
Um, we get bored at work andwant to read your shit, so send
us some stuff.
Rhino, do you have mailbagstuff do?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
you want to save for next week?
I think we'll save for nextweek okay, we're gonna do
mailbags.
We'll bring back mailbags nextweek I got a couple that we can
link.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
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guests coming up.
Hopefully.
Hopefully we'll get those on.
Check us out on Instagram.
Go on there and share some shitthere.
You can check us out on Patreontoo.
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(54:06):
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think anybody reads those.
I think I could put stuff inthe middle of it like given
codes, I'm going to startputting code words in them and
if you put the puzzle together,you're going to get um a free
t-shirt a free t-shirt, avirtual high five?
It's not?
Yeah, you get a microphone,high five.

(54:28):
Um, I'm going gonna put the allthe patrons in the descriptions
as well this time around, soinstead of shouting them out, um
, we'll do it that way.
But, yeah, check us outeverywhere there.
Check out the show and colorpodcast also rhino hates that
one, but we have a good timewrestling podcast.
We're gonna get him on thereeventually.

(54:48):
We'll get him on thereeventually.
He's gonna have a good timetalking about wrestling.
Um, yeah, you guys got anythingelse?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
um, you're gonna roll this d8, this d6.
Listen, we're at nearly 9 000it's a five-year-old.
It's been a fun year I feel,like there's been a lot of
things that we've had a lot ofimpact on, but the one thing
that I feel like we've had thegreatest impact on, more than
anything else, is I like tothink we had successfully had
the hand in the name changing ofa restaurant in Letcher County.

(55:20):
I really do think we had a partin that.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I feel like it has a little.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I saw that the other day and I was like God damn,
that was us boys.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, I was thinking that was us, their date.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I was like, god damn, that was us boys.
Yeah, I was thinking that wasthe new shop that's opening in
cumberland.
No, there's one open that'sowned by him.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
So we were um, we don't mention any names, but I
think we did have any thatimpact.
I do think we got that namechanged.
I think maybe the heat webrought some heat yeah um, but
it was you know, they earnedthat heat.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
We helped them quit their job.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
We helped them quit their fucking job.
Um, all right, boys, you gotmonroe, you got anything key,
you got anything.
I'm good, all right, y'allremember, ain't nobody stopped
if you're quitting your job.
But you pretty good show it'sreally fast, really fast,

(56:18):
maaaaaa.
Thank you.