April 15, 2023 • 29 mins
Has cancel culture gone too far?? In this episode dive into our frustrations with cancel culture and the lack of compassion that our society has. Support the show by following DaeShawn and Mo on IG and Unrehearsed on TikTok!
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And we actually in this month again, that's crazy.
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We in here again, y'all back at it again with the white man.
I can't believe it.
This is like it's so unrehearsed, unrehearsed.
I guess we live it up to our name.
Literally, we really don't have a way of opening up our shows.
Correct. We're just here.
I kind of like it.
You don't know what to expect.
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But we back is your boy, De'Shawn Forrest.
And it's me, Moriana Moe.
I never know which one to go with.
Moe, I'm Moe, y'all.
That's how everybody named mama know me.
So that's Moe.
That's Moe you already know.
We call her Moe.
I got the flow. I go crazy.
Oh, yeah.
Y'all can't see me.
OK, freestyle it.
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I know. Look, put me on.
Put me on. Put me on a tag.
That man, I got a verse open for you.
You know, I'm like, say less.
They call me Moe money.
Like, I'm not joking.
Yeah, I'll bet.
I would obviously want to change my rapper name though.
That's not the best.
Might have to drop a song featuring Moe.
Somebody was like Moe dollar signs.
I'm like, that's already taken.
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So today, sorry, let's get you canceled already.
Today, we're going to be doing a song called Moe.
And I'm going to be doing a song called Moe.
And I'm going to be doing a song called Moe.
Canceled already. Today, we're going to talk about cancel culture.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Actually, it's interesting that we're talking about this
because in my head, I was like, everybody name,
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I'll be talking about cancel culture.
So like, what do we have to say that's different?
But y'all just stay tuned.
Y'all going to hear us.
Y'all going to know.
Tap in, Lonus.
Tap in, Lonus.
It'll be funny.
And I said it before we got everything rolling,
but it'd be funny if we did this episode on cancel culture
and we got canceled.
Like all the irony.
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Like, what does that even mean?
Yeah.
And I guess we can just go ahead and go right into it.
Like, my thing with it is it's like on one side,
I completely understand the point of someone dealing
with the consequences of their actions.
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That's just life.
That makes perfect sense to me.
But I think where I think really my issue
is the extreme side of it.
It's like, because we're in a world in the society today,
especially in America, where it's like everyone kind of is
like preaching love of some sort.
Either they say love or just love each other, yada, yada,
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yada.
But if someone makes a mistake, and we're not perfect,
so we're going to make mistakes, even the best of us
make mistakes.
So if someone makes a mistake and it's public,
and then everyone just kind of does away with the person,
and not even giving them a second chance,
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they can't bounce back.
They just can't come back to what they once were.
Then that's kind of where I have a problem, because it's
not really loving.
Imagine if you made a mistake.
Starts to cry.
So many.
Imagine you make a mistake.
And people don't like.
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Based off of that one mistake, it's like you're forever
canceled.
It completely discredits anything else
that you have to say, anything else good that you do.
It don't matter.
You know why?
Because we remember what you did.
You know what you did.
It's not loving.
And I'm just talking about the extreme side of it.
I understand we all face the consequences of our actions.
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It's just life I'm talking about in the extreme, where
it's like we don't want nothing to do with you.
You can't exist in a way anymore.
Right.
And it's really.
It's frustrating.
I feel that it's very frustrating,
because I feel that it just gets me mad.
Because I feel that ever since we became more just digitally
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inclined to, we're just moving towards a very electronic
and digital.
We live in the digital age, and it's not going to stop.
It's going to keep going.
And we keep growing in our developments inside
of technology and whatnot.
And so because we live inside of this age,
I think a lot of people get very bold and very big behind
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the social media platforms.
And it's like in real life, half the things that you say,
you'd never say.
You would never.
You'd be a real chicken.
It's like you would never say that to someone's face.
But because it's like there's no actual real connection
happening, you feel comfortable enough, which you shouldn't.
But you feel comfortable enough to bash on people and whatnot.
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I do feel that cancel culture is necessary.
I feel that it is necessary.
But like you said, I do feel that it also got to an extreme.
Because when I think about cancel culture, cancel
culture, you guys, it's a new disease.
Cancel culture, it just reminded me of back in the day
when they would have whistleblowers.
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You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, when they taught us that in school.
And they're like, oh, yeah.
You know, like when they were doing canned foods,
but it was really canned horse meat.
And there was somebody who was what?
Like a whistleblower.
And they like was like, yo, like it's actually horse meat.
Y'all stop eating that stuff.
You know?
And then it was like, oh my gosh.
And so that's what I feel like the modern day cancel culture
is.
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But I do feel like it has definitely gotten
way out of hand, way out of hand.
It's not really a compassionate culture.
And if I had to be frank, it's really in a way ungodly.
Ooh, a lot of people don't like that.
You just got so many people ruffling feathers over here.
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That's probably the thing that would get me canceled right
there.
Right there.
They're like, ugh, he said ungodly.
Think about it, because it's like think of the nature of God.
He's very merciful.
He's compassionate.
And he understands the human element,
meaning that we're just bound to make mistakes,
even if we are really good in our behavior
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and all those kind of things.
At some point, we're going to slip up.
And when we slip up, we repent, and he
don't hold it against us, we might still hold it against
ourselves.
Hold it against ourselves and beat ourselves up.
He didn't move past it all.
Right.
And he's not going to bring it up.
And it's in the sea of forgetfulness.
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But with cancel culture, it's like you mess up.
Depending on how bad you mess up, you ain't never going to do that.
They'll make sure you hear about it.
Right.
And I feel, you know what, but I feel
that a lot of cancel culture has to do with people who are more
inside of the public eye.
Like if I make a mistake, the only people that I don't know
is the people that are in my world.
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I only got like what, like 900 followers on Instagram.
Like, don't nobody care.
They're not going to be like, oh, Moe did this,
because I'm not putting it on social media either.
But it's like when it becomes like you're a celebrity,
or you're an icon, or you're just like a big name,
then that's when I feel that things are most unforgivable.
And that's more ruthless.
That's what I'm thinking of when I'm basing my points.
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I'm thinking of like public figures.
Like I'm thinking of like Will Smith.
Yeah.
Chris Rock.
Like that's what I think about.
I'm like, what?
But the crazy thing for me is like,
I'm not saying that Will Smith wasn't any way justified
for what he did.
But I will say that I do believe, like in the Bible,
it talks about how the reason why God is slow to anger
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is because he's so understanding.
And so for me, I make sure that I'm understanding for people
because I'm more slow to anger.
And people are like, wow, like you're not angry about this.
And I would just respond, no, I actually understand.
Like that's why I ask so many questions,
because I want to know, I want to understand,
what was your thought process?
Like, why did you do that?
Like, what was going on that made you feel comfortable
to do something like that?
And so with Will, I actually listened to his,
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would it be like a memoir?
I don't know, autobiography, biography.
I never know, y'all help me out.
What is it?
You know when they write it themselves,
but they're still alive?
Well, obviously they write it themselves
because they're still alive.
Yeah, I think it's a memoir.
A memoir, okay, we're gonna go with a memoir.
If it's incorrect, just feel free to like,
put it in the comments and be like, yo, this is it.
Thank you, we appreciate y'all.
I should have looked it up.
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Anyways, so yeah, but I listened to his memoir
and in that he actually explained a lot of his insecurities.
So then I had finished it before the award show happened.
So then when it finally happened,
I was shocked, but I was able to understand.
And I'm like, well, I listened to his memoir,
so I'm better able to understand
why he would respond in that way
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rather than responding in a different way.
So it just allowed me to extend grace to him
and just to be like, yo, like you messed up, bro.
And it happens, like it's not your best moment,
but you have other great moments
and like this isn't the end of the world
or the end of your life.
Like you still have so much life to live, you know?
So yeah.
Yeah, it was a bad incident.
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Very, very bad.
It was this.
It was a slap heard around the world.
Literally, that joint went stupid on the end.
Yeah, it did.
The edits, they were crazy on that.
The memes, I was like, y'all are ruthless.
That was insane.
But yeah, that's mainly just like my,
and that's another thing with other side of social media.
It's like, we see these public figures,
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we don't know them personally.
Yeah.
Definitely not gonna meet all of them
and develop that personal relationship.
Yeah.
And I don't think anyone ever developed that understanding.
You just so happened to peep his book before the incident,
so you had a different perspective going in.
I didn't even know he had a memoir out.
Yeah, it was really dope.
Y'all gotta get the audio book though.
Like the audio book, he really did that thing.
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I was like, yo, this is dope.
I didn't even know he had one out.
Yeah.
You know, in a memoir, people get deep,
because I've read a memoir before
and I know people get deep on it.
So the fact that you said he talked about his insecurities,
that makes perfect sense.
And then leading up the right end,
I was like, okay, that makes,
assuming all of that is true,
because I myself haven't read it,
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that makes sense because it was probably,
it was likely some things that weren't quite worked out
on the inside.
Yeah.
And it just showed off publicly.
Right.
And stuff.
But that's really like my whole case against,
or my whole, I guess, pet peeve about cancel coaching.
And another thing is like,
the people that do the canceling.
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Talk about it.
Don't have their lives fully on display,
like all the other figures.
They're not in the limelight like that.
I think that's my door dashboard.
It is.
So freaking cute right now.
They're in a Prius, guys.
They're in a Prius.
Y'all understand how hungry I am right now.
I went to the gym, went max on some leg day low key.
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You can go through that door.
Yeah, you just unlock it.
Is it unlocked?
Shout out Brandon.
Thank you.
Shout out Brandon right now.
Securing the food bag.
I know, this is so funny.
Anyways, we're probably gonna cut this out.
Y'all don't understand how juiced I am right now.
Okay, getting back to the subject.
Oh, and that man looks so sweet.
Thank you, God bless you, sir.
Oh yeah, I made sure.
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Oh, and he's laughing.
He has a great laugh.
Okay.
Joe Papa, he be killing.
He be killing me.
That's really my thing.
It's like the people that do the canceling,
there are a lot of times like the main,
like the dirty work, if you will.
But who are they?
That's what I come back down to.
It's like the dirty, from what I've been able to see,
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it's like the dirty work.
Because it's never the famous person.
Like it's always just nobody.
No offense, take offense, but it's always just nobody.
It's like, you have nothing, what?
It's like the main dirty work of like cancel culture
is like on social media,
it's people behind like the keyboards and stuff.
Those same people don't put,
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they're not as exposed as public figures are
and not necessarily looking at them like,
boy, I'm gonna tear that food up.
I know, you're like looking at them,
I was like, where's he going?
Brandon, come back.
No, they don't put their lives on like display like that.
So they don't really understand what it's like
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to be in that.
And I'm not a huge, big, famous public figure.
I'm not super famous.
Not yet, not yet.
Not yet, we're working to get some sort of clout.
We gonna get there.
But like even in, cause I'm technically considered,
I think the phrase if I remember correctly
is a small content creator.
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I think that's the actual technical phrase.
Small, anyways.
Because they count like follower count.
Okay.
And so, but even then, you know,
I'm not getting stopped on like the street
for like auto gas or anything,
but even then I'm mindful of what I put out there.
When I dropped the closed door video, bro.
No, y'all, if y'all haven't seen it,
go watch it now.
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Stop what you're doing.
When I dropped the closed door video,
that's the, I've never done anything.
I've never done any like song or film like that before.
And so obviously people weren't expecting something
like that, which I completely understand.
But when I dropped the video,
I had to explain myself to several people.
Right.
People still come to me about that video.
I was out last night and group of my friends brought it up.
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And it was like, I guess someone in the group didn't see it.
No, you didn't see it.
You gotta watch it.
I can't believe it.
And I was like, no one's ever pulled this video
up in front of me.
So I was like, it was kind of weird.
But like, I get it on a small scale
because it's like, we put,
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you put yourself out publicly,
whether you're putting out art
or just putting your life on display.
It's just a different kind of life.
And so the people that do the canceling dirty work
on like social media,
they're just regular everyday people
that don't have that same kind of life.
So it's like the compassion isn't there
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when someone makes a mistake publicly
because they ain't ever been in that person's shoes.
Right.
Talk about it.
I was like, sounds like a lack of empathy as well.
Yeah.
And so that's really, that's really my main pet peeve.
I don't like, I don't mind people.
Like I said, I'll say it again for you,
I said, I'll say it again for like the third time.
I completely understand
the face and the consequences of your actions.
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I've been there in my own personal life,
but I just don't like,
I just feel, it just feels a bit hypocritical to me
for society to wanna preach love
and just coming together in peace
and all those kinds of things.
But then when someone makes a mistake,
they're ready to just do it.
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Get the pitchforks.
Get the buyer.
Execute this person.
Crucify them.
It's over for them.
Literally.
We don't want them back no more.
I'm not gonna go support your movies.
I'm not listening to your music.
I'm not, I'm unfollowing you.
I'm not buying your merch no more.
I'm not just over and done with it.
Well, that's like, well, what if someone,
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what if you made a mistake, which you have before?
Right.
And then everyone that you are close with
did that same approach to you.
Right.
You would be heartbroken.
It'll mess your mind up.
Right.
For real.
So imagine that on a public scale.
I feel for them.
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Okay, like I feel for them.
I'm like, okay.
Yeah, that's my main thing.
Yeah.
I just don't like it.
Yeah, it sucks.
You know what?
I think the craziest thing too is that a lot of times
we really think that people live in our world.
Like you guys live in my world.
Just kidding.
No, but we do.
We think that people live in the same world as us.
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And that's just not true.
I feel that we all live in our own little world,
but we just share the same planet.
You know what I mean?
Like we're all in the same earth.
Cause it's like the same thing with social media, right?
They do everything based off of algorithms.
And so like if somebody scrolled through my social media,
it will look so different from what I like
from someone else's.
Cause it'd be like things that are tailored to my liking,
to the things that I liked and things that I don't like,
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to my beliefs, like whatever it is.
And so I feel that with Kanzo culture as well.
I think a lot of times we can do that to other people
where we're like, oh, like everyone's living in my world.
So when somebody mess up, it's like, oh,
like we think that you did it this way.
But I do feel that everyone has different perspectives,
but usually the people who have the persp,
the real perspective of love,
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like are the ones who are silenced, like over hatred.
I feel like the ugly is always like louder than,
you know, the pretty.
So it's just like, man, it'd just be rough.
It'd be rough out here.
It's rough.
The ugly is louder than the pretty, like you said.
And like the hate is louder than the love.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Look, even on the smallest of scales,
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like I said, I'm very,
I'm considered a small content creator.
I've had, especially like last year,
cause I released so much,
I've had people DM me like, yo, this song,
whatever song I dropped at the time,
it's like, yo, this song brought me to tears,
which is like the highest form of compliment
anyone could give me musically,
or like, I really love the stories you tell with your films.
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I love the album.
I love your grind.
Whatever compliment they give,
I can get a thousand of those.
One person could trash a song.
And I'm like, yo.
One person could trash a song, like straight,
like not, I'm not talking about like constructive criticism.
I love that.
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Just like trash.
But I mean actually trashing a song.
And I could be like,
and I completely forget about all the compliments
that someone gave me, all of the phone calls,
like, yo, keep going.
All of the comments on my Instagram or YouTube
or Facebook or DM, just everything.
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I forget everything that the article said about me
or the album review said about me,
or the fact that, I mean, last year, for example,
I was charted for a little bit on radio.
Or I cracked like top 100 for the nation on digital radio.
I forget about all of that stuff.
If the negative comment is strong enough,
I'll be stunned for a little split second.
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I had to get over it.
I'll eventually get over it, but I'll be powerful.
I can't believe it.
But I feel like that goes back to show though
how much power we give other people
to speak into our lives, unfortunately.
Cause like with camsel culture, it's like,
the truth is that when there's a whole bunch of people
pulling a certain way, like it is powerful.
Like, and it's just, and it's hard not to,
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it's hard to quiet that or it's hard not to listen to that.
But then also with that, it just frustrates me
because I feel that a lot of, look, look y'all.
We live in such a time where we have so much access
to free information, like Google it.
Like we have so much access to free information,
but half of us get our information from social media,
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which is not a credible source whatsoever.
And so then we end up looking dumb sometimes.
Let's talk, come on, don't bow your head.
Don't bow your head in shame.
Look up, look at me, look at my eyes.
So, but, you know, then it's like,
we get our information from social media
or from like friends and stuff.
And so everything's so word of mouth.
Then it's like later on, we feel like total buttholes,
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you know, and jerks when we find out like,
what, that wasn't true.
We're like, dang, I was talking mad mess about that person.
You know, and it's just like, wow,
we canceled them and everything.
And that time the badminton's done.
Right.
And it's like, you can't take it back.
And the information that was given wasn't even accurate.
So the other thing is like,
I would just suggest everybody to like really do research.
Like, and when I say research, I mean, like,
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don't only read like one article.
Like you need to like read a couple of things, you know,
like make sure that the sources are credible,
which means that there's like.org.com.
Like look at the people who are writing this, you know,
cause what if like, you know, I was just a rando
and I'm like writing all this stuff and you're like,
oh, I'm gonna believe her.
And it's like, no, don't believe me.
Like thought check me.
You know, like, man,
make sure that I am who I say I am,
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that I actually know what I'm doing
and that I'm not just like some random person.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So.
And even then give it time to.
There we go.
Yes.
Give it time.
Yes.
Like my dad, he does, he likes to do a lot of research
and his thing is like verify, verify, verify, verify,
verify, confirm.
And then even then give it time.
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Like give it time for like,
whether it's new information to come out or just like,
just time to see how factual.
It is.
And so, yeah, give it time
because you can easily come across something
that seems very alarming and then like act instantly
or formulate your opinion instantly.
Right.
Just kind of have to like take in everything,
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consider everything.
And at the same time, like give it time, like relax.
Don't be so quick to make a move or what a case that is.
But yeah, that's my whole spell on cancer.
That fool is calling my name.
Come on, I feel like.
What time are we on Brandon?
Are we like 20 minutes in?
Okay.
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I was like.
My fault y'all.
Are you good?
We can cut it short.
It can just be a short.
Yeah.
That's so.
Yeah.
And that's really, that was really my main thing
with cancer culture anyway.
I feel like it died down though, to be honest.
Well.
I'm probably, I'm not on social media enough to know now
cause I want to be present in my world and in my life.
So.
That's good.
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I think it probably, well, I don't feel like ash.
Okay.
It's just nothing has happened yet to where it's like,
oh, there it is.
I feel like people have,
I feel like some have realized that if you ignore
cancer culture, depending on the situation,
this is all depending, you know, on the case by case basis.
Right.
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But I think some are probably realizing that if you just
kind of like ignore it, then pretty much don't give it as
much power.
Yeah.
Like I would say.
It's not, you know, it just kind of goes over differently
personally, I guess.
Okay.
Yeah. Because I mean, like look at
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however y'all feel about him is how y'all feel about him.
But like, look at, yay.
You know,
I have no idea who that is.
I'm sorry.
You looked at me too.
He changed his name, but it's Kanye.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Bruh.
You look at,
how you feel about him is how you feel about him.
But they've tried to, they've canceled him.
So many times.
I don't know how many times.
So many times.
They've been on that man for at least 10 years.
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Right.
And we're still going.
For real.
So it's like that, that, I feel like that instance
and probably some other smaller ones are just like proof
that, okay, just don't give people as much power.
Even if you do make a mistake and you're clearly
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in the wrong, understand that you are human.
And these people who are canceling, you are human too.
Who make mistakes, but they just sweep theirs under the rug.
Right.
Because they're not public figures or maybe they just
don't think outside the box as much.
Yeah.
But you could still keep going.
Right.
And life ain't over if you get canceled.
I feel like there's like a bit of like a fear.
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Yeah.
Because it seems so extreme.
It's like, oh man, if I say this, they're gonna cancel me.
They're gonna take all this.
They're gonna take all that.
And it's just over and it's like, there's,
you get pushed through it.
Yeah, you can push through it.
Now, easier said than done.
Like I said, I am a small content creator.
But we've seen it done.
We have seen it done.
I think it's just people don't like to hear
the truth sometimes too.
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And so that's why I count cancel culture
is just such a big thing.
Cause they're like, oh, if we cancel this person,
you know, then no one's gonna listen to them.
But it's like, I mean, the Bible talks about it.
Like we are itching.
Like our ears are itching to hear what we wanna hear.
So we're like looking for people and things, you know,
that fill that like whatever, that desire in us,
that want to hear whatever we, that you're right.
They're like, we don't want people to disagree.
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You know, but at the end of the day,
we also say things like, oh,
but people are free to have their own opinion.
See how hypocritical it is?
Stop, stop.
Like it's like people are free to have their own opinion.
But if you disagree, then you automatically hate me.
Right.
And you're a bigot and you're a doggone.
Right, you're all these things.
You're a misogynist.
Right.
Or you're, all of the bad terms.
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Yeah.
It like, you're, it is like, well,
there are eight billion people on this earth.
Right, wow, that's a lot.
We just crossed like the eight billion
within like the last maybe three or four months,
if I'm not mistaken.
That's crazy.
Eight billion people on this earth.
It is illogical and highly unrealistic
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to imagine that eight billion people
living in all over the world
will have the exact same perspective and experiences as you.
Yes.
I think it goes back to what you said though,
when it comes to love though,
because a lot of times in our mind,
no one has said this out loud,
so I'm just gonna say it.
A lot of times we say that we love people
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and in our minds, and well, I can't speak for everyone,
but at least for a lot of people that I've spoken to
that live in the world that I live in,
which is just like people that I know.
We've talked about love and how a lot of times
we can mistake love for meaning
that we have to agree with you.
It's not true.
And I just think that is something that we need to get over
and really work through, because that's not true at all.
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I have family where we don't agree on a lot of things,
but I'm like, I still love you though.
It's a family.
It doesn't have to separate us
or make us pull apart or anything.
It's just like, we just have two different perspectives,
but I'm not down for the agree to disagree.
I think I'm like, nah,
we just have two different perspectives.
I'm not gonna agree to disagree.
That makes no sense to me.
I'm just like, we just, yeah.
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Like our views are just different and that's okay.
And we respect each other.
It's like, we don't have to lose respect for each other
just because we disagree.
It's like, hey, all right.
And then the other thing too that I would suggest,
and this is just me, I would suggest asking questions.
A lot of times we're just so quick to just disregard people
because I'm like, oh, I don't agree with it.
And then we're just shutting our ears
and we're like, oh, I don't wanna hear it.
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But it's like, ask questions.
Maybe you can gain a better understanding and be like,
you know what, I don't agree, but I get your perspective.
I can have a better conversation with you now
because I understand.
So yeah, so let's give each other grace, extend love.
Stop canceling each other all the time.
Yeah, because sometimes, and like I said,
it's case by case basis,
but sometimes it honestly just ain't that big of a deal.
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It's not.
I have seen people stop being friends over disagreements.
It's like, hey, you really think the blue Doritos
is more fire than the red Doritos?
I ain't cool with you no more.
I don't care if we've been friends the past six, seven years.
Literally, it's so dumb.
You like the Cool Ranch over the Spicy Nuts?
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Right.
But not like, we gotta be consistent.
We cannot be hypocritical, especially for us
because we're followers of Christ, we love God.
We are instructed to have compassion
and just as people, we ought to anyway,
because that's a good thing to do.
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It wouldn't make sense to be like, I love, I love, I love.
And then first sign of disagreement is like,
I don't want nothing to do with you no more.
Or first time I catch you making a mistake,
I can't fool with you no more.
Right.
It's just like.
It's because love is more than words.
It's also about actions and deeds.
Yeah.
Yeah, so chill out with that.
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I was like, let's be nice.
Be nice to each other.
Oh man, I think that's probably a solid note
to end on right there.
Yeah.
I think that's it.
So like we vented our frustrations
and also provided solutions.
And that's how you want to do things.
Right.
You don't want to just talk about the problem
and not provide a solution or just give some ideas
on how things could be better.
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Yeah.
I'm finna grub.
Okay, I love y'all fam.
Thanks for being here.
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(28:41):
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And we actually in this month again, that's crazy.
(00:06):
We in here again, y'all back at it again with the white man.
I can't believe it.
This is like it's so unrehearsed, unrehearsed.
I guess we live it up to our name.
Literally, we really don't have a way of opening up our shows.
Correct. We're just here.
I kind of like it.
You don't know what to expect.
(00:27):
But we back is your boy, De'Shawn Forrest.
And it's me, Moriana Moe.
I never know which one to go with.
Moe, I'm Moe, y'all.
That's how everybody named mama know me.
So that's Moe.
That's Moe you already know.
We call her Moe.
I got the flow. I go crazy.
Oh, yeah.
Y'all can't see me.
OK, freestyle it.
(00:48):
I know. Look, put me on.
Put me on. Put me on a tag.
That man, I got a verse open for you.
You know, I'm like, say less.
They call me Moe money.
Like, I'm not joking.
Yeah, I'll bet.
I would obviously want to change my rapper name though.
That's not the best.
Might have to drop a song featuring Moe.
Somebody was like Moe dollar signs.
I'm like, that's already taken.
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So today, sorry, let's get you canceled already.
Today, we're going to be doing a song called Moe.
And I'm going to be doing a song called Moe.
And I'm going to be doing a song called Moe.
Canceled already. Today, we're going to talk about cancel culture.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Actually, it's interesting that we're talking about this
because in my head, I was like, everybody name,
(01:31):
I'll be talking about cancel culture.
So like, what do we have to say that's different?
But y'all just stay tuned.
Y'all going to hear us.
Y'all going to know.
Tap in, Lonus.
Tap in, Lonus.
It'll be funny.
And I said it before we got everything rolling,
but it'd be funny if we did this episode on cancel culture
and we got canceled.
Like all the irony.
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Like, what does that even mean?
Yeah.
And I guess we can just go ahead and go right into it.
Like, my thing with it is it's like on one side,
I completely understand the point of someone dealing
with the consequences of their actions.
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That's just life.
That makes perfect sense to me.
But I think where I think really my issue
is the extreme side of it.
It's like, because we're in a world in the society today,
especially in America, where it's like everyone kind of is
like preaching love of some sort.
Either they say love or just love each other, yada, yada,
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yada.
But if someone makes a mistake, and we're not perfect,
so we're going to make mistakes, even the best of us
make mistakes.
So if someone makes a mistake and it's public,
and then everyone just kind of does away with the person,
and not even giving them a second chance,
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they can't bounce back.
They just can't come back to what they once were.
Then that's kind of where I have a problem, because it's
not really loving.
Imagine if you made a mistake.
Starts to cry.
So many.
Imagine you make a mistake.
And people don't like.
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Based off of that one mistake, it's like you're forever
canceled.
It completely discredits anything else
that you have to say, anything else good that you do.
It don't matter.
You know why?
Because we remember what you did.
You know what you did.
It's not loving.
And I'm just talking about the extreme side of it.
I understand we all face the consequences of our actions.
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It's just life I'm talking about in the extreme, where
it's like we don't want nothing to do with you.
You can't exist in a way anymore.
Right.
And it's really.
It's frustrating.
I feel that it's very frustrating,
because I feel that it just gets me mad.
Because I feel that ever since we became more just digitally
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inclined to, we're just moving towards a very electronic
and digital.
We live in the digital age, and it's not going to stop.
It's going to keep going.
And we keep growing in our developments inside
of technology and whatnot.
And so because we live inside of this age,
I think a lot of people get very bold and very big behind
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the social media platforms.
And it's like in real life, half the things that you say,
you'd never say.
You would never.
You'd be a real chicken.
It's like you would never say that to someone's face.
But because it's like there's no actual real connection
happening, you feel comfortable enough, which you shouldn't.
But you feel comfortable enough to bash on people and whatnot.
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I do feel that cancel culture is necessary.
I feel that it is necessary.
But like you said, I do feel that it also got to an extreme.
Because when I think about cancel culture, cancel
culture, you guys, it's a new disease.
Cancel culture, it just reminded me of back in the day
when they would have whistleblowers.
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You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, when they taught us that in school.
And they're like, oh, yeah.
You know, like when they were doing canned foods,
but it was really canned horse meat.
And there was somebody who was what?
Like a whistleblower.
And they like was like, yo, like it's actually horse meat.
Y'all stop eating that stuff.
You know?
And then it was like, oh my gosh.
And so that's what I feel like the modern day cancel culture
is.
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But I do feel like it has definitely gotten
way out of hand, way out of hand.
It's not really a compassionate culture.
And if I had to be frank, it's really in a way ungodly.
Ooh, a lot of people don't like that.
You just got so many people ruffling feathers over here.
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That's probably the thing that would get me canceled right
there.
Right there.
They're like, ugh, he said ungodly.
Think about it, because it's like think of the nature of God.
He's very merciful.
He's compassionate.
And he understands the human element,
meaning that we're just bound to make mistakes,
even if we are really good in our behavior
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and all those kind of things.
At some point, we're going to slip up.
And when we slip up, we repent, and he
don't hold it against us, we might still hold it against
ourselves.
Hold it against ourselves and beat ourselves up.
He didn't move past it all.
Right.
And he's not going to bring it up.
And it's in the sea of forgetfulness.
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But with cancel culture, it's like you mess up.
Depending on how bad you mess up, you ain't never going to do that.
They'll make sure you hear about it.
Right.
And I feel, you know what, but I feel
that a lot of cancel culture has to do with people who are more
inside of the public eye.
Like if I make a mistake, the only people that I don't know
is the people that are in my world.
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I only got like what, like 900 followers on Instagram.
Like, don't nobody care.
They're not going to be like, oh, Moe did this,
because I'm not putting it on social media either.
But it's like when it becomes like you're a celebrity,
or you're an icon, or you're just like a big name,
then that's when I feel that things are most unforgivable.
And that's more ruthless.
That's what I'm thinking of when I'm basing my points.
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I'm thinking of like public figures.
Like I'm thinking of like Will Smith.
Yeah.
Chris Rock.
Like that's what I think about.
I'm like, what?
But the crazy thing for me is like,
I'm not saying that Will Smith wasn't any way justified
for what he did.
But I will say that I do believe, like in the Bible,
it talks about how the reason why God is slow to anger
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is because he's so understanding.
And so for me, I make sure that I'm understanding for people
because I'm more slow to anger.
And people are like, wow, like you're not angry about this.
And I would just respond, no, I actually understand.
Like that's why I ask so many questions,
because I want to know, I want to understand,
what was your thought process?
Like, why did you do that?
Like, what was going on that made you feel comfortable
to do something like that?
And so with Will, I actually listened to his,
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would it be like a memoir?
I don't know, autobiography, biography.
I never know, y'all help me out.
What is it?
You know when they write it themselves,
but they're still alive?
Well, obviously they write it themselves
because they're still alive.
Yeah, I think it's a memoir.
A memoir, okay, we're gonna go with a memoir.
If it's incorrect, just feel free to like,
put it in the comments and be like, yo, this is it.
Thank you, we appreciate y'all.
I should have looked it up.
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Anyways, so yeah, but I listened to his memoir
and in that he actually explained a lot of his insecurities.
So then I had finished it before the award show happened.
So then when it finally happened,
I was shocked, but I was able to understand.
And I'm like, well, I listened to his memoir,
so I'm better able to understand
why he would respond in that way
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rather than responding in a different way.
So it just allowed me to extend grace to him
and just to be like, yo, like you messed up, bro.
And it happens, like it's not your best moment,
but you have other great moments
and like this isn't the end of the world
or the end of your life.
Like you still have so much life to live, you know?
So yeah.
Yeah, it was a bad incident.
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Very, very bad.
It was this.
It was a slap heard around the world.
Literally, that joint went stupid on the end.
Yeah, it did.
The edits, they were crazy on that.
The memes, I was like, y'all are ruthless.
That was insane.
But yeah, that's mainly just like my,
and that's another thing with other side of social media.
It's like, we see these public figures,
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we don't know them personally.
Yeah.
Definitely not gonna meet all of them
and develop that personal relationship.
Yeah.
And I don't think anyone ever developed that understanding.
You just so happened to peep his book before the incident,
so you had a different perspective going in.
I didn't even know he had a memoir out.
Yeah, it was really dope.
Y'all gotta get the audio book though.
Like the audio book, he really did that thing.
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I was like, yo, this is dope.
I didn't even know he had one out.
Yeah.
You know, in a memoir, people get deep,
because I've read a memoir before
and I know people get deep on it.
So the fact that you said he talked about his insecurities,
that makes perfect sense.
And then leading up the right end,
I was like, okay, that makes,
assuming all of that is true,
because I myself haven't read it,
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that makes sense because it was probably,
it was likely some things that weren't quite worked out
on the inside.
Yeah.
And it just showed off publicly.
Right.
And stuff.
But that's really like my whole case against,
or my whole, I guess, pet peeve about cancel coaching.
And another thing is like,
the people that do the canceling.
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Talk about it.
Don't have their lives fully on display,
like all the other figures.
They're not in the limelight like that.
I think that's my door dashboard.
It is.
So freaking cute right now.
They're in a Prius, guys.
They're in a Prius.
Y'all understand how hungry I am right now.
I went to the gym, went max on some leg day low key.
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You can go through that door.
Yeah, you just unlock it.
Is it unlocked?
Shout out Brandon.
Thank you.
Shout out Brandon right now.
Securing the food bag.
I know, this is so funny.
Anyways, we're probably gonna cut this out.
Y'all don't understand how juiced I am right now.
Okay, getting back to the subject.
Oh, and that man looks so sweet.
Thank you, God bless you, sir.
Oh yeah, I made sure.
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Oh, and he's laughing.
He has a great laugh.
Okay.
Joe Papa, he be killing.
He be killing me.
That's really my thing.
It's like the people that do the canceling,
there are a lot of times like the main,
like the dirty work, if you will.
But who are they?
That's what I come back down to.
It's like the dirty, from what I've been able to see,
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it's like the dirty work.
Because it's never the famous person.
Like it's always just nobody.
No offense, take offense, but it's always just nobody.
It's like, you have nothing, what?
It's like the main dirty work of like cancel culture
is like on social media,
it's people behind like the keyboards and stuff.
Those same people don't put,
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they're not as exposed as public figures are
and not necessarily looking at them like,
boy, I'm gonna tear that food up.
I know, you're like looking at them,
I was like, where's he going?
Brandon, come back.
No, they don't put their lives on like display like that.
So they don't really understand what it's like
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to be in that.
And I'm not a huge, big, famous public figure.
I'm not super famous.
Not yet, not yet.
Not yet, we're working to get some sort of clout.
We gonna get there.
But like even in, cause I'm technically considered,
I think the phrase if I remember correctly
is a small content creator.
(12:32):
I think that's the actual technical phrase.
Small, anyways.
Because they count like follower count.
Okay.
And so, but even then, you know,
I'm not getting stopped on like the street
for like auto gas or anything,
but even then I'm mindful of what I put out there.
When I dropped the closed door video, bro.
No, y'all, if y'all haven't seen it,
go watch it now.
(12:52):
Stop what you're doing.
When I dropped the closed door video,
that's the, I've never done anything.
I've never done any like song or film like that before.
And so obviously people weren't expecting something
like that, which I completely understand.
But when I dropped the video,
I had to explain myself to several people.
Right.
People still come to me about that video.
I was out last night and group of my friends brought it up.
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And it was like, I guess someone in the group didn't see it.
No, you didn't see it.
You gotta watch it.
I can't believe it.
And I was like, no one's ever pulled this video
up in front of me.
So I was like, it was kind of weird.
But like, I get it on a small scale
because it's like, we put,
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you put yourself out publicly,
whether you're putting out art
or just putting your life on display.
It's just a different kind of life.
And so the people that do the canceling dirty work
on like social media,
they're just regular everyday people
that don't have that same kind of life.
So it's like the compassion isn't there
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when someone makes a mistake publicly
because they ain't ever been in that person's shoes.
Right.
Talk about it.
I was like, sounds like a lack of empathy as well.
Yeah.
And so that's really, that's really my main pet peeve.
I don't like, I don't mind people.
Like I said, I'll say it again for you,
I said, I'll say it again for like the third time.
I completely understand
the face and the consequences of your actions.
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I've been there in my own personal life,
but I just don't like,
I just feel, it just feels a bit hypocritical to me
for society to wanna preach love
and just coming together in peace
and all those kinds of things.
But then when someone makes a mistake,
they're ready to just do it.
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Get the pitchforks.
Get the buyer.
Execute this person.
Crucify them.
It's over for them.
Literally.
We don't want them back no more.
I'm not gonna go support your movies.
I'm not listening to your music.
I'm not, I'm unfollowing you.
I'm not buying your merch no more.
I'm not just over and done with it.
Well, that's like, well, what if someone,
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what if you made a mistake, which you have before?
Right.
And then everyone that you are close with
did that same approach to you.
Right.
You would be heartbroken.
It'll mess your mind up.
Right.
For real.
So imagine that on a public scale.
I feel for them.
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Okay, like I feel for them.
I'm like, okay.
Yeah, that's my main thing.
Yeah.
I just don't like it.
Yeah, it sucks.
You know what?
I think the craziest thing too is that a lot of times
we really think that people live in our world.
Like you guys live in my world.
Just kidding.
No, but we do.
We think that people live in the same world as us.
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And that's just not true.
I feel that we all live in our own little world,
but we just share the same planet.
You know what I mean?
Like we're all in the same earth.
Cause it's like the same thing with social media, right?
They do everything based off of algorithms.
And so like if somebody scrolled through my social media,
it will look so different from what I like
from someone else's.
Cause it'd be like things that are tailored to my liking,
to the things that I liked and things that I don't like,
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to my beliefs, like whatever it is.
And so I feel that with Kanzo culture as well.
I think a lot of times we can do that to other people
where we're like, oh, like everyone's living in my world.
So when somebody mess up, it's like, oh,
like we think that you did it this way.
But I do feel that everyone has different perspectives,
but usually the people who have the persp,
the real perspective of love,
(16:29):
like are the ones who are silenced, like over hatred.
I feel like the ugly is always like louder than,
you know, the pretty.
So it's just like, man, it'd just be rough.
It'd be rough out here.
It's rough.
The ugly is louder than the pretty, like you said.
And like the hate is louder than the love.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Look, even on the smallest of scales,
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like I said, I'm very,
I'm considered a small content creator.
I've had, especially like last year,
cause I released so much,
I've had people DM me like, yo, this song,
whatever song I dropped at the time,
it's like, yo, this song brought me to tears,
which is like the highest form of compliment
anyone could give me musically,
or like, I really love the stories you tell with your films.
(17:14):
I love the album.
I love your grind.
Whatever compliment they give,
I can get a thousand of those.
One person could trash a song.
And I'm like, yo.
One person could trash a song, like straight,
like not, I'm not talking about like constructive criticism.
I love that.
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Just like trash.
But I mean actually trashing a song.
And I could be like,
and I completely forget about all the compliments
that someone gave me, all of the phone calls,
like, yo, keep going.
All of the comments on my Instagram or YouTube
or Facebook or DM, just everything.
(17:54):
I forget everything that the article said about me
or the album review said about me,
or the fact that, I mean, last year, for example,
I was charted for a little bit on radio.
Or I cracked like top 100 for the nation on digital radio.
I forget about all of that stuff.
If the negative comment is strong enough,
I'll be stunned for a little split second.
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I had to get over it.
I'll eventually get over it, but I'll be powerful.
I can't believe it.
But I feel like that goes back to show though
how much power we give other people
to speak into our lives, unfortunately.
Cause like with camsel culture, it's like,
the truth is that when there's a whole bunch of people
pulling a certain way, like it is powerful.
Like, and it's just, and it's hard not to,
(18:39):
it's hard to quiet that or it's hard not to listen to that.
But then also with that, it just frustrates me
because I feel that a lot of, look, look y'all.
We live in such a time where we have so much access
to free information, like Google it.
Like we have so much access to free information,
but half of us get our information from social media,
(18:59):
which is not a credible source whatsoever.
And so then we end up looking dumb sometimes.
Let's talk, come on, don't bow your head.
Don't bow your head in shame.
Look up, look at me, look at my eyes.
So, but, you know, then it's like,
we get our information from social media
or from like friends and stuff.
And so everything's so word of mouth.
Then it's like later on, we feel like total buttholes,
(19:19):
you know, and jerks when we find out like,
what, that wasn't true.
We're like, dang, I was talking mad mess about that person.
You know, and it's just like, wow,
we canceled them and everything.
And that time the badminton's done.
Right.
And it's like, you can't take it back.
And the information that was given wasn't even accurate.
So the other thing is like,
I would just suggest everybody to like really do research.
Like, and when I say research, I mean, like,
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don't only read like one article.
Like you need to like read a couple of things, you know,
like make sure that the sources are credible,
which means that there's like.org.com.
Like look at the people who are writing this, you know,
cause what if like, you know, I was just a rando
and I'm like writing all this stuff and you're like,
oh, I'm gonna believe her.
And it's like, no, don't believe me.
Like thought check me.
You know, like, man,
make sure that I am who I say I am,
(20:02):
that I actually know what I'm doing
and that I'm not just like some random person.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So.
And even then give it time to.
There we go.
Yes.
Give it time.
Yes.
Like my dad, he does, he likes to do a lot of research
and his thing is like verify, verify, verify, verify,
verify, confirm.
And then even then give it time.
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Like give it time for like,
whether it's new information to come out or just like,
just time to see how factual.
It is.
And so, yeah, give it time
because you can easily come across something
that seems very alarming and then like act instantly
or formulate your opinion instantly.
Right.
Just kind of have to like take in everything,
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consider everything.
And at the same time, like give it time, like relax.
Don't be so quick to make a move or what a case that is.
But yeah, that's my whole spell on cancer.
That fool is calling my name.
Come on, I feel like.
What time are we on Brandon?
Are we like 20 minutes in?
Okay.
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I was like.
My fault y'all.
Are you good?
We can cut it short.
It can just be a short.
Yeah.
That's so.
Yeah.
And that's really, that was really my main thing
with cancer culture anyway.
I feel like it died down though, to be honest.
Well.
I'm probably, I'm not on social media enough to know now
cause I want to be present in my world and in my life.
So.
That's good.
(21:26):
I think it probably, well, I don't feel like ash.
Okay.
It's just nothing has happened yet to where it's like,
oh, there it is.
I feel like people have,
I feel like some have realized that if you ignore
cancer culture, depending on the situation,
this is all depending, you know, on the case by case basis.
Right.
(21:46):
But I think some are probably realizing that if you just
kind of like ignore it, then pretty much don't give it as
much power.
Yeah.
Like I would say.
It's not, you know, it just kind of goes over differently
personally, I guess.
Okay.
Yeah. Because I mean, like look at
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however y'all feel about him is how y'all feel about him.
But like, look at, yay.
You know,
I have no idea who that is.
I'm sorry.
You looked at me too.
He changed his name, but it's Kanye.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Bruh.
You look at,
how you feel about him is how you feel about him.
But they've tried to, they've canceled him.
So many times.
I don't know how many times.
So many times.
They've been on that man for at least 10 years.
(22:32):
Right.
And we're still going.
For real.
So it's like that, that, I feel like that instance
and probably some other smaller ones are just like proof
that, okay, just don't give people as much power.
Even if you do make a mistake and you're clearly
(22:54):
in the wrong, understand that you are human.
And these people who are canceling, you are human too.
Who make mistakes, but they just sweep theirs under the rug.
Right.
Because they're not public figures or maybe they just
don't think outside the box as much.
Yeah.
But you could still keep going.
Right.
And life ain't over if you get canceled.
I feel like there's like a bit of like a fear.
(23:16):
Yeah.
Because it seems so extreme.
It's like, oh man, if I say this, they're gonna cancel me.
They're gonna take all this.
They're gonna take all that.
And it's just over and it's like, there's,
you get pushed through it.
Yeah, you can push through it.
Now, easier said than done.
Like I said, I am a small content creator.
But we've seen it done.
We have seen it done.
I think it's just people don't like to hear
the truth sometimes too.
(23:37):
And so that's why I count cancel culture
is just such a big thing.
Cause they're like, oh, if we cancel this person,
you know, then no one's gonna listen to them.
But it's like, I mean, the Bible talks about it.
Like we are itching.
Like our ears are itching to hear what we wanna hear.
So we're like looking for people and things, you know,
that fill that like whatever, that desire in us,
that want to hear whatever we, that you're right.
They're like, we don't want people to disagree.
(23:59):
You know, but at the end of the day,
we also say things like, oh,
but people are free to have their own opinion.
See how hypocritical it is?
Stop, stop.
Like it's like people are free to have their own opinion.
But if you disagree, then you automatically hate me.
Right.
And you're a bigot and you're a doggone.
Right, you're all these things.
You're a misogynist.
Right.
Or you're, all of the bad terms.
(24:22):
Yeah.
It like, you're, it is like, well,
there are eight billion people on this earth.
Right, wow, that's a lot.
We just crossed like the eight billion
within like the last maybe three or four months,
if I'm not mistaken.
That's crazy.
Eight billion people on this earth.
It is illogical and highly unrealistic
(24:43):
to imagine that eight billion people
living in all over the world
will have the exact same perspective and experiences as you.
Yes.
I think it goes back to what you said though,
when it comes to love though,
because a lot of times in our mind,
no one has said this out loud,
so I'm just gonna say it.
A lot of times we say that we love people
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and in our minds, and well, I can't speak for everyone,
but at least for a lot of people that I've spoken to
that live in the world that I live in,
which is just like people that I know.
We've talked about love and how a lot of times
we can mistake love for meaning
that we have to agree with you.
It's not true.
And I just think that is something that we need to get over
and really work through, because that's not true at all.
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I have family where we don't agree on a lot of things,
but I'm like, I still love you though.
It's a family.
It doesn't have to separate us
or make us pull apart or anything.
It's just like, we just have two different perspectives,
but I'm not down for the agree to disagree.
I think I'm like, nah,
we just have two different perspectives.
I'm not gonna agree to disagree.
That makes no sense to me.
I'm just like, we just, yeah.
(25:49):
Like our views are just different and that's okay.
And we respect each other.
It's like, we don't have to lose respect for each other
just because we disagree.
It's like, hey, all right.
And then the other thing too that I would suggest,
and this is just me, I would suggest asking questions.
A lot of times we're just so quick to just disregard people
because I'm like, oh, I don't agree with it.
And then we're just shutting our ears
and we're like, oh, I don't wanna hear it.
(26:10):
But it's like, ask questions.
Maybe you can gain a better understanding and be like,
you know what, I don't agree, but I get your perspective.
I can have a better conversation with you now
because I understand.
So yeah, so let's give each other grace, extend love.
Stop canceling each other all the time.
Yeah, because sometimes, and like I said,
it's case by case basis,
but sometimes it honestly just ain't that big of a deal.
(26:34):
It's not.
I have seen people stop being friends over disagreements.
It's like, hey, you really think the blue Doritos
is more fire than the red Doritos?
I ain't cool with you no more.
I don't care if we've been friends the past six, seven years.
Literally, it's so dumb.
You like the Cool Ranch over the Spicy Nuts?
(26:54):
Right.
But not like, we gotta be consistent.
We cannot be hypocritical, especially for us
because we're followers of Christ, we love God.
We are instructed to have compassion
and just as people, we ought to anyway,
because that's a good thing to do.
(27:16):
It wouldn't make sense to be like, I love, I love, I love.
And then first sign of disagreement is like,
I don't want nothing to do with you no more.
Or first time I catch you making a mistake,
I can't fool with you no more.
Right.
It's just like.
It's because love is more than words.
It's also about actions and deeds.
Yeah.
Yeah, so chill out with that.
(27:38):
I was like, let's be nice.
Be nice to each other.
Oh man, I think that's probably a solid note
to end on right there.
Yeah.
I think that's it.
So like we vented our frustrations
and also provided solutions.
And that's how you want to do things.
Right.
You don't want to just talk about the problem
and not provide a solution or just give some ideas
on how things could be better.
(27:58):
Yeah.
I'm finna grub.
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