May 27, 2023 • 48 mins
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Everyone gotta know who put all this together. Yeah, it's not just people in front the camera
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But we back in it another episode of unrehearsed ladies and gentlemen. It's your boy DeShawn
It's your girl Moe and we back again on unrehearsed and today
We're doing
dreams and visions
now
This one now throughout our time filming. I have noticed that this is a topic that is covered
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Quite a bit or it will yeah, or just at least hint it on maybe not
That hasn't really been much of a dedicated episode. We did do characteristics of success. Oh, we did kind of tap we tap
So
It makes this way in and out
Or yeah, it'd be weeping it'd be tiny and intertwined
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But we figured it'd be good to do a nice little dedicated episode because I mean why not?
We're out here chasing dreams. Yeah
Anyway
So I
Had a dream that one day
I was so maybe just really got mad. I'm sorry, right? It was all a dream
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He used to read word up magazine saw him pepping heavy day up in my limousine and pictures on my wall
anyways
Heck alike. So let's talk about big that's what this is really about
Biggie just want to talk about big into pocket. I want to know biggie BB. Can't you see sometimes you want to just anyways
Okay, let me get back on track. I'm sorry. Oh, so
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dreams and
visions well there well
There's some conversations that I've been having with the specific human that I can't share
But the specific human is working on things and so and it has to do with dreams
And so I was like hey, we should talk about that because what are your dreams?
And so yeah, I just thought this would be a fun topic because I do feel that a lot of times as we get older
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We've learned to
Whether it's through ourselves or we've gotten comfortable with where we are. We've learned to settle
For just wherever we are and we forget about our dreams
We forget about the things that you know kept us up us up at night
We forget about the things that like just kept us going and like that
We just worked really hard and like non-stop and was like am on the grind like I want to make this happen
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And yeah and same thing with vision. I feel like we talked about vision
You know when 2020 happened everyone's like, oh 2020 vision, but really like clear like perfect vision
It's like what 1020 souls like oh we were not on it, but it's okay. We was out here trying
Right come on literally nobody had a vision for that one saw that coming and so
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Yeah, so I just wanted to talk about that. So can we just start off talking about complacency?
I just kind of let's just jump into it like dive on in
Complacency complacency is
Dangerous
Dangerous and certain circumstances, okay. Oh interesting like not altogether dangerous
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well
Yeah, not all it just depends. Oh, you're interesting. Okay, please explain to me and the people I mean person
Okay, what do I what is it? What do I always say? It's not the way is a way
I think something like this. It's like a
Case by case basis. I'm not necessarily black or white
You know some
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Some with some stuff it's like okay, it's either this or that and then with some stuff is like, okay
Maybe it's more appropriate to tackle it case by case
Okay, so it's like I say that because we know Paul said in the Bible godliness will continue in a great game
So it's like okay
Maybe
Maybe depending on what it is or maybe I'm just kind of mistakenly like mixing up the two but
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Maybe depending on what it is
complacency
Is it bad like if God has you doing a certain thing and that's where he wants you to be even, you know
Like oh, I feel like I'm gonna do more but like I was like nah you I want you right here
Let's see that's contentment. That's good said, okay
I feel like it is what you said like complacency. Let me just pull up the definitely
I'll just say maybe I need a dictionary
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I need a dictionary. Okay, let's Google it on my Alonzo LeRoe
I'm a Merriam-Webster it
Okay, I'm a Google it so definition from Oxford languages complacency means a feeling of a smug or
uncritical satisfaction with one's self or one's achievements
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I'm just looking at the synonyms of it. I guess perhaps this word didn't mean entirely what I thought it was
So maybe I am just mixing this too, but this definition off of Merriam-Webster's dictionary app says self-satisfaction
Especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies
So yeah, I think I'll probably mix enough definitions. Okay, so I'm gonna go with this definition
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So forget everything I just said don't forget what you just said just for complacency
Complacency is complacency contentment is contentment. Okay now that we've established that okay
Placency is bad
Definitely cuz I was like I know it naturally has a negative connotation when people are talking about it
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But we do hear what you're saying cuz you were like, oh, but I'm not sure what you're saying
Cuz you were like, oh, but it is important to learn to be content but contentment
I feel like complacency comes when there's goals. There's visions
There's dreams, but you just stop working towards it or you start settling you're like, you know what?
Maybe that dream was way too big
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Right, like maybe I'd rather help somebody else make their dream come true and that's me fulfilling my dream while that hurt my soul
But that's some people's story that probably opened up for another conversation
You probably should have off camera. Okay, just cuz I don't know where that could go. Okay
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But yeah complacency
It is it is dangerous
Especially if you really have big I mean
It's this day just when having those definitions be our foundation I guess for this conversation
dangerous, but it is a
Trap and it's like you have to fight it. You know what I mean?
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Cuz like
if you want to get
To let's say at the top of the mountain even climbing climbing climbing always gonna be another
I'm always gonna wanna make it
Me always gonna be in a pill battle
Yeah
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Came up watch that's not Hannah Montana, but my sire's get it right in the movie right it was so Miley Cyrus
But yeah, don't know. Okay, but anyway
That's sorry if you want to get up to the mountain so yeah, you got your mountain top obviously everyone starts at the bottom
You've been climbing so now you're like somewhere in the middle and you look back and like Meg
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You know, I actually came a long way. Yeah, that's actually pretty good
But you didn't still reach that top goal that you want you might get the place like man
It's really getting to the top that important. I've gotten this far. This is pretty good
Maybe most people don't get as far as where I've gotten right gotten this far
and it's
It's I feel like it's
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Natural at some point to fight those thoughts off because at some point you're going to question like bang
Is this worth it? You know what I mean? Is this worth it all this stuff?
I'm doing especially when you're not like seeing with both
I've been there and I I fight those. Oh gosh
I fight those thoughts off because
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Remembering in moments like that. You got to remember your why like okay? We know what you're doing
But why are you doing it right?
And yeah, I was just gonna say I feel like sometimes that's beautiful by the way, isn't he just lovely you guys? Let's just
but I was
But I was gonna say though I do feel that
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But you said was beautiful. I think a lot of times some people oh, bro
I was like don't be getting at my part
I was like don't be getting at my posture right now. I think a lot of times. I was like
I was just gonna say why sometimes our why isn't strong enough. I'm finding that out
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Cuz I think cuz I've heard people say that a lot of times and I'm like okay and like I'm gonna just keep it
I'm one of those people where I'm like okay
Like this is the vision and I'm like I have no idea how to keep it
so I just immediately am stuck as soon as I have the vision or the dream cuz I'm like I don't know how to like
This is where I want to be so let's just like put it in reverse and like get there
And then I'm like okay like you know I like think of good reasons like I want to do it for generational wealth
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Let's go, and then it's like maybe two weeks, and I'm like generational wealth ain't worth it
So I'm just like let's just take a break like let's do something else and so yeah, so I feel like me personally
I don't think complacency is my problem or like I don't think so much finding a why is my problem
But it's just like having it be a solid why is what gets me like stuck cuz I'm like okay
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generational wealth and yeah, but go
Yeah
Solid why yeah well I
Think well, what is my why I think that's probably the best
Oh my god let's talk about it. That's gonna be good. Or at least how I came about like figuring out what my why is
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It can't just be cuz you're good at it. I mean right that's not enough, but it's like oh, I'm good at it
It's just like you know
You know I was I was good at you know
several things
But I don't really keep up with some of those things so much anymore. You know cuz it's like
I wasn't strong enough. It was cool for a time. It was fun or whatever case was like you know so
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for me
My bad, you know you're good ahead you're good. We want to make sure this is top-tier quality yeah
but um
for me in
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My journey and perhaps this is natural for everyone in their journey, but the why
Changed really yeah why?
there's
There's the essence in the core. There's the root if you will okay
And then what sprouts out of that has changed like for example, okay when I first always go back to music cuz
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Everything kind of like bleeds back there, so when I first started
my why for making that
Soundcloud mixtape was like
It's been tugging on my heart for years. I
Couldn't come up with a good enough reason not to do it okay
And I'm trusting in God when doing it so why not?
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Why not so it was like okay? Why not?
This is like a little leap of faith. I didn't expect much of anything at all
I actually really had no I actually had no expectations for that first mixtape and
I just wanted to see if I could do it okay, and
So that was your why that was the earlier like that's the first one it's been tugging at my heart for years
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I feel like it's God tugging at my heart specifically I keep you know being attracted to it
Why not try it out cuz yeah my thing is I don't want 30 40 years to pass by and I look back at these moments
And like man, I never even gave it a shot. You just heard some people's souls right now
It's not too late though. Y'all we still love y'all
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Yeah, but that was that was that was my why you know yeah, I didn't want you know because what I've learned
You know I'm not a good singer
You know I'm not where I want to be yet, but what I've learned fairly quickly is that I?
Can put five dollars out there
It could bring five dollars to go and not come back or five dollars can come and bring him work, so it's
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Money is gonna money's a tool
Time however
Podcast money being a tool. Yeah flames put the emojis up
So yeah, bunny is a tool, but time however
Time however it comes and it goes and it does not come back for you
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You know like you're only going to be 15 once you're not gonna go back in time
You're only gonna be in your 20s once and there I believe in
Windows this is just personally I believe there is a window of time for everything yeah
God gives
certain windows of time for
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Everything I believe that if I kept pondering and just
Overthinking about whether or not I actually step out on faith and try this and after a while my window of time would have closed
Yeah, that's true. That is very true. Do not know when
And I be who is a very curious person at times and ain't was not curious enough to really want to find out
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hmm, but I believe that there are windows of time for everything and so
That was my why I didn't want time to pass me by knowing that after I'm no longer young
I'm not going to be young again, and I I missed an opportunity
Yeah, never know where it can lead to so that was the start and that keeps me going. That's the root okay?
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so
Branching out of that and then crazy stuff happening in my life. It was it just
several other reasons came about that are really good reasons, but not necessarily as
They're strong, but not as
Strong as what the root did the root got me right okay the root got me going
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It's like okay cuz that even if the those other reasons change
I'm still like well time is still what it is
Yeah, I can't let all this time pass by and not take advantage of the time and opportunity that I have yeah, and so
You know going along is you know okay? I started buying a little bit more into it now. It's like well
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I'm going as hard as I am because I want to be able to really put my all into this
I want to be able to do this full-time. That's another why
You know what I mean, or you know now you know I got
Now as we speak I got people that believe in me and what I'm doing
That's I've debated whether I want to say cuz I knew it's gonna get
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But it's the truth it is the truth and so I got you know people that believe in me and they help me out and
That's another why yeah, that's a strong why that is very strong
Why that is very strong one a very strong wife, but that's another white that wasn't the why at the very start
I didn't have it. It was just me and just wanted to see if I could do it
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It was just a curiosity thing now that I know I could do it okay
Let's take this up come on so so be encouraged. That's I like that
That's the why so I think it'd be great just to challenge if some of you have dreams and visions
You're like oh, I want to do this like and you're trying to find a solid why but you're having a hard time
Let your first why be like why not and why not let it be you like why not you be the one to fulfill that dream
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Why not you be the one to be the first to do it or be the one to do it better right go for it
We believe in you. We love you
Oftentimes it's not necessarily
Well depending on how you look at it may be the first in your family
But oftentimes in a grand scheme of things in a world view scheme of things
It's not necessarily the first to do something, but you could provide something new to the table
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I'll never forget someone saying go into the store and look at the bread aisle
What literally like go into the store, and you just look at the bread aisle bread's been around forever
But look at how many brands of bread there are
Bunch of people doing the same thing, but just bringing something different something else unique to them
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Right like yo he was right yeah
And they're for motivation right
Every time I every time I'm in the store, and I end up down the bread I'll end up thinking about that
I'm a while
So it's really if you don't allow your self to have excuses there really will be no excuses Wow
You hurting people today sir hurt in our hearts. I promise we need to hear it though. It just don't feel good
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I'm like oh ouch. I promise I'm not trying to hurt
It's just but it's the it's the truth and it's yeah everything I'm saying is not that I've learned personally and so
but starting off
like for example I
Don't know exactly what you were because you didn't say exactly what you were going for me
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Yeah, but you you said at first maybe it was just a hypothetical situation, but you said at first your wife was like generational wealth
That's a good why that's a really good why probably too strong of a why to start off with correct ouch, okay?
I'm just gonna go now
Because think about it like this
I mean generational wealth is I mean who wouldn't want to create you know wealth so much right pass on to the next generation of the family
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but
Think about like my why when I started off. I just want to see if I can do it
Yeah, I wasn't considering my family
I wasn't considering I wasn't thinking about oh, I want to impact the world to be the greatest rapper ever
Yeah, you don't want to be the GOAT. That's too much
Okay
Starting off that's actually a really good point. I think you know I just want to see if I can do it
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Oh, okay, then I was able to do it. I was like okay now that I did it
Let's I know now that I did it once I know I could do it again
Let's see if I can do it better, okay, and then you just keep you just keep building. That's good
I do feel like I can start to cry
We didn't bring tissue just kidding no I do feel that going back to what you're saying though a big reason
Why I try to find a reason outside of myself is because like a lot of times like I have a lot of self-doubt
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And like I don't believe in myself enough to be able to fulfill those dreams or like reach that vision
If I'm being transparent, yeah, that makes sense. I've dealt with that a lot even as you know
I'm a lot better. I really don't have those kind of things anymore, but last year I did
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last year so but
Yeah, I mean I've learned that a
Confidence booster is just starting small and patting yourself on the back like literally like if you really
Pete what I was saying and like my story of starting off everything was just a confidence booster
I was like like I had no expectations. I said that I had no expectations for that project
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I'm not expecting the chart hit radio. Okay go viral. I'm not expecting any of that. Okay
I just want to see if I can do it. Okay
Because I have my doubts. I knew I could write a song
I wrote in the rain hundreds by then but actually creating something and putting it out there. Okay, and
for people to
Consume for themselves. It's like okay
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I just want to see if I can do it. That's the only goal. I want to know if I can do it. I
Put out six songs on the project because I felt that was a good number to shoot for okay
I wasn't shooting now. I can put out like 15 on the joint
Oh, no, it's not
Standard link we get it we get it we get it starting off that would have been
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Overwhelming. Yeah for someone who had never done it before so I was like, okay
About five or six songs. I can create five or six songs. That's pretty solid
Okay, and so I did that I created six. I produced it myself. I spent a couple of months working on it and
You know junior he mixed it. Shout out junior. He's mixed all of my stuff and
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I put it up there and I was like, I did it. I knew it was going to show my amateurism
I even sent it to Ryan shout out Ryan who can teach all of my stuff. I knew it was going to
Show the fact that I hadn't done that before but I just want to see if I could do it and then
Once I put it out there. I was like, wow, I did it
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so now that I
Boom, that's a confidence booster night and went to the next level
Okay, mentally cuz like man you did something at first that you wouldn't really too sure if you can do
and you put it out there you you got the job done
That's good. Now you can do it again. So it just starts off small
Literally, literally like if you build in a tower, you're not going to start building the 30th floor
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You gotta break your ground first lay your foundation and build up and then like after I
shortly after I released that first tape an old friend of mine that I
Had met in high school at we hadn't seen each other in a couple of years because I was like, I'm not gonna do it
school at we hadn't seen each other in a couple of years because she graduated before me and
I was at the community college and I
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Was setting up this back when I was studying recording our saw
I think we were just setting up the classroom setting up the studio for a practice session or something like that and
Doing that and then I see her from a far off and I'm like
I'm like so so but it's like blurry. Yeah, you know, and I just kind of like I shot a man and she turned her head
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I mean she started walking towards me. Oh, yeah, that is so and so and then she come up to me and she said hey
I peeped your tape, you know, like I had just recently and I knew this was God
He was like I had just recently got into the church and got saved and I was just looking for some
You know new music to like listen to
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Oh, and she was like that was very like timely
I was like, wow
So, yeah
You know now my wife is stronger than ever okay because I've put out several projects
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Hit radio. I've been teased with it
I'll say that I've been teased with with what I know that I could accomplish and I have more people
believing in me now
And so now the why is a lot stronger, but if I was like, oh, yeah
Like oh I'm gonna rap then we're gonna podcast and merge on that stuff
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I was like, let me just see if I could actually make a song. Okay
Got to start with what you can handle then build is what I'm saying. Okay, come on
I feel like so I just have to touch on a couple things because one thing is like can we talk about mindset?
Because what you're talking about and we talked about this last time and just like book recommendations, but I do want to bring up thinking
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We're rich. Yeah, because I feel like that was a big like
Attribution to like your mindset now when it comes to like your dream and things like that. Yeah, I must I'm wrong
So you correct me if I'm wrong and if so just like yeah, I started putting out music at when I was 18
Okay, I read three. I came across thinking grow rich when I was it was after I turned 22
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Really?
And I'm 23 now. So it's okay here and a half. Okay, so that books entry
Into my life is very recent. Okay
I never knew the book existed and actually never bought the book
It was gifted to me by a former coworker of mine thinking girl rich
It was gifted to me about a year and a half ago and even then
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It took me a minute to actually because I'm a slow reader
It took me a minute to actually crack open the book and read it. So I probably held it on held on to it for like
Maybe six months
anywhere between three to six months before I actually decided to read it and
Yeah, so that came later. Okay. So then with your mindset, so
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How would you encourage those of us who are like, okay, I have a dream. I have vision
Like how do I get out of my head to where I can actually?
Create steps and actions to get there because I think that's something that people struggle with
Yeah, would you say that you just kind of struggle through it and you're just like you just start going or like what would be helpful?
That that's actually part of it. Um, you're definitely gonna struggle through something. Okay do this
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I
Honestly take notes from what I did notice how I started off mentally I started off small because I was starting off small
So it's like okay. I wasn't you know, everyone wants to like shoot for the stars, which is great
But I was a little bit more realistic at that time
And I was like like I knew I didn't have any expectations. I knew it was gonna show off my amateurism
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I just wanted to see if I could do it. It would get no smaller than that
No smaller than that, you know, it's you got to meet yourself where you're at. Yeah, so
mentally start off small figure out whatever your first step is and then like
And if you have to set a deadline
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There's power in a deadline there is truly there's power and like holding yourself to a deadline because you know
You have to abide by that
I
Hold myself to deadlines, you know when I'm
Creating songs. It's like okay by this time. I
Gotta start sending stuff in and mixing and mastering and it
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You know, I would never slacking leading up to that point
But it adds more to the focus because I know that I'm supposed to get these records into junior first
They gotta go to Ryan. So I gotta sit on the Ryan and then
That don't spend as much time as he needs to it and he's gonna send his notes back
But I got to get these records in the junior by this time, you know
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Or like we're you know, if it's about time to release stuff, we got to shoot music videos
We got to get these videos going at by this time because by this time we have to release because
Yours about the end or I'm trying to get out within a certain amount of time. It's like deadlines
But before you even get there
Start very small. Okay, you know, whatever your first step is for me. My first step was okay
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I'll write a song
Okay. Wow, that was so simple. Like okay write a song. The first step is often very simple
So my first step was okay write a song. I've written plenty of songs before
So it wasn't like I was unfamiliar to writing a song
write a song
Roll the song spend some time spend some time writing while also like making beats
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I was messing around with just making beats in general at that time. So now it's okay now these beats
I'm gonna work on this like stuff that
I'm gonna try to get it to as good as I feel like I can get him to
Is so just doing what I normally would do
Right, like how I normally would write but this time is I'm actually trying to get out there
So then it was like, okay now I got to get the recording equipment. I didn't buy
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two computers the mics and mic stands and the software all at once, you know, I got I got
This pretty guys probably can't see it but the computer record mode right now was actually give it from my dad for my 18th
birthday
so
Didn't have to buy a computer. So it's like, okay mind you
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I was like studying recording us at the time
And so I would go and ask questions to the people that knew more than I did. That's a good one
Yes questions ask questions
Pick people's brains. And so I would go I remember I would go to the the program counselor
His name is Aaron. Shout out Aaron. I'll never forget Aaron
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Because the thing that he recommended I still use to this day which is it's an interface of
Not a focus right but a pre-sonus interface
And he was like, okay, this is your budget. You're working at Jack in a box
You're just starting to kind of like build your little home studio. You just started off. You don't really want anything
super complex Sean
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So and he didn't he plugged me with sweet water, which is a website where I got it from and that was I still use
sweet water to this day and he was like
You should probably get you this this is just a hundred dollars
Okay, I got a hundred dollars bought that
And then it was like, okay now I got this what else do I need? Well, I'm gonna need a microphone
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I was studying microphones as part of the program at the time. So I was like, okay
For my from what I'm doing. I probably could use this type of microphone. I went to the guitar center and conquered which is like
20 or so minutes from where I live and I went in there. I'll just like hey
I'm trying to do this and I need a microphone and then they started helping me out. It's like, okay
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We have this this sounds like it'll fit your knees
This one works
This was actually the second microphone. I got the first microphone. I got
So the second microphone I got
We went to the guitar center and got it and I got it on deal because it was the last one to start
And also I saw that and then probably at the same time or a little bit time later a little while later. I got the
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The mic stand. Okay. So in the midst of all this you were still writing the song. I was still producing
the beats and working on
Actually writing the songs. Okay, and slowly but surely just bringing in the equipment
Okay, and like one of my meaty keyboard
it was like
Cyber Monday. Yeah, it was Cyber Monday right after Black Friday
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So I got it on deal and stuff like that. So I got that and it actually sat for a while before I actually used it
but
Yeah, and I just kind of slowly because I recognize that this is the steps. This is what I needed and
Then it's like oh, where's the place to record?
Well, I knew I didn't want to spend money on studio time. Okay, and both my parents worked at the time. So I was like
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Let me just do this
Okay, and so they were both at work I came home from school I can't record and
I was just doing it because we were in a much smaller tighter space at the time
So that's the only at the time that's the only space that I had to even record
So I went home from school set my stuff down grab my computer
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Got my phone with the lyrics on it while my parents were still at work. I
started
and they're dropping bars
and
Boy, I didn't know and I actually said it on character wishes of success
I think very first song I ever ever ever ever recorded never came out to this day never is gonna come out
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Hey very first song ever recorded I sent it to island and he critiqued it so
Yeah, that was just like my beginning I remember recording in my parents room and then
Mid mid take my I hear knock on the door is my dad and like you done in there like he getting in from work
He's trying to come in the room
That's where I start. You know, you got to start from where you at if you at the bottom of the stairs
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You're not gonna think man if I could just
I'm like all the way over and boom now I'm at the top step
I mean there are some people that like look if I just like skip every four steps, I'm gonna get there faster
Start with step one
And that's really just how you do it and you just keep building off of that stuff
Okay. Well now because you've said it multiple times like there there's a whole dream team behind you and that
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Believe in you and things like that
So I guess what would you suggest when it comes to like who's in your circle during that time?
Because I feel like a lot of times like, you know, there's people and we talked about this in characteristics of success
But there's like really people who are like trying to kill the dream and trying to kill the vision, you know
Or they're just like so this is like a side note
But there's this book called the artist way, which we also talked about before
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By Julia Cameron and like the part that I'm on right now is talking about
Crazy makers is what they call it
And it's like crazy makers are people who like will literally suck up all your time when you like have
Deadlines and things like that. It's like oh they need you and like the moment that you're starting to create in the moment that you're in
Flow they're like, oh I need you to do this and I need you to do that
And it's just like and it's disruptive right? And so it's very disruptive to your creative process
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and so another thing that the book was talking about was how
As you are as a creative like because we all are like creation
So like we all have some kind of creativity some kind of thing that we were supposed to be putting out into the world
Amen
And so that being said
A lot of times like when we ourselves as individuals are inside of like creative
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Flow and we're beginning to become unblocked creatively the people around us can start feeling some type of way because they're still creatively blocked
So it's almost like this frustrating when they see you like getting out of the like, you know chains or grass of
Like just I don't know like complacency and just like not being creative and not doing what you're made to do and things like that
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There's almost like this jealousy that rises up like oh they think that they better than me or something like that
But it's like that's not the case at all
They're just becoming creatively unblocked and you're mad because you're still stopped up and you're constipated creatively
And you need some prune juice, you know
You need some like stool like you need some help some laxative
Creatively, of course unless you really need it then
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Yeah, so you're asking about like how
How do you choose people? Yeah?
Well, I think that's hard because sometimes we want it to be family and you're like, oh my so and so and like yeah
You know, but it's just like what what just say it you get a note. I ain't gonna say that part
Okay, because sometimes you do sometimes you're like, oh, I just want it to be family or like almost it becomes like a convenient thing
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And we forget about like character
We forget about like how people have shown up in our lives and things like that
And we don't take all those things into account when it comes to our dream, but it's sacred. It is something special
Yeah, so sorry that was like a lot. No, no, no, that's that's that's legit. Yeah, that's legit
so, um
Mind you as to to the audience as we're filming this as you're watching this
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We are on the ground floor and we are everything is coming together and building on
Nowhere near am I where I want to be but
Where can I get there? But I have said on this episode that there are people
That aren't in front of camera that help make stuff like this possible. Yeah now
As far as how to assemble the Avengers
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Well
That is very good
I'll be having you speechless sometimes. I'm like, so sorry. I'll be asking questions. I don't ever think about this is really good
This is really good one. Well chemistry is very important. Okay, but what I've learned with myself
There was always a bond established
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and something of
something of
Meaning something like substance like it's not just like fickle
before it
Before some sort of business aspect started. Oh, that's good. Like for example with with Brandon who I always shout out every episode
Oh, you didn't so far. So shout out to Brandon shout out to Brandon
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Just in case I ain't shot him out there. I'm gonna be like, oh my god
Brandon shout out to Brandon just in case I ain't shot him out this episode. I probably did but hey
We just love him. We've been filming all day
Me and Brandon known each other since we were 15 we didn't start doing this until
Years later
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Like I think three or so years later by that time we were we been brothers
We've been part of we've been the squad been family
You know, we knew Allen I met Allen. I don't know when Brandon exactly when Brandon met Allen, but I met Allen at 13
10 years later, you know what I mean you it's been like what three years?
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Three years we just now started doing this
Ryan who critiques the music went to school with me and Brandon and Allen in the squad
I would see Ryan all the time. He graduated the same year as I would see Ryan all the time all throughout campus
With that football shout out Ryan
He gonna laugh when he see that part and when we started
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We started uh, we were both in the the uh, lmc program recording arts program together
So we had a lot of classes together. Okay, and so we got real close
and
I would give him rides home and stuff and
um
You know, I think at one point it's like yeah, I'm outside you bit of gas when I said bro
No, I'm good, bro. My dog. I'll take you to the crib. So I
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I would take him home every night because we would have night classes and stuff like that
so I take him home and then
You know
I met his I met his parents and all of that kind of stuff and he even did a song with his mom on one
of my earliest earliest stuff
and
You know something was established before we got into that and with junior me and junior
We all met we met met junior in the same program
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You know something was established there and all those kind of things. So
I'm all for organic connections. Okay, you know stuff that happens naturally
Um
and so
Things have been able to come together pretty easily
because it's like
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You know, it's like I'm getting to know people and they're becoming like part of the family
And then somewhere along the way like oh we just ended up doing it
Ended up doing this type of thing. Like I didn't know we was going to end up doing a podcast
Together like six eight months ago
Or like when we first met it was just the thought like I knew I wanted a podcast
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I knew I wanted a podcast and we knew each other wanted a podcast
But even then it was like oh I want to pocket you want to pocket do something like no that didn't come till way down
And so for me, it's just been natural connections natural like organic stuff
and
There's been times where I thought certain people would
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be more
Committed
Um, I find that some people are in for the long haul some people were in just for that particular moment
That's and that's perfectly fine
You know god orchestrates all things and everyone
He have everyone plays whatever role that he'll have for them to play
And so that's what I would say if it comes together naturally and organically. That's the best thing because it's like, you know
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It's real, you know, it's not like you met the person with the intent of it being that okay. Gotcha
You know what I mean? Yeah, and it's like for example, I'll put it to you like this
Let's say this stops
transparency music podcasts all of that stuff
Let's say
Brandon motion to cut the camera off. Let's say I let's say I quit or what this is forever whatever reason this stops
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Brandon is still my dog
Is is brothers first we also do this though
You still my dog
You know what? I mean, we also do this though, right? Ryan is still my dog
I still check up on breath and it ain't just to like hey y'all I sent you some stuff in your email
Yeah, how you doing how mama and them how to hire your siblings and them? How you how your niece or nephew doing?
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You know, I still tap in with Jenna from time to time who uh for those that don't know me and Jenna
We co-produce and we've done a lot of stuff if you like once more time. That's all Jenna. Um
Yeah, and uh
Junior, you know what I'm saying? I'll still tap in like bro. You straight. How you doing? Yeah, you know
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If I stopped that part's not gonna change
Okay, you know I get you you know what I mean? It does make a difference
You would say huge difference in like the production and just even in like the getting things done part of things. Yeah, it's like
I think it makes a difference because it's just
it's just
It has more like I guess what's the word sentimental value or I don't know something along those lines
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It's just it means a little more. Yeah, okay, you know because it's this isn't just oh, it's just some guy
I know or just some guy makes like nah
I don't know every me and junior know each other five years. We met we met when I was uh
18 and
I
Funny thing is I was going to have my first
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Project get mixed by someone else
Okay, um, they already had the music and actually so if I was to be technically speaking juniors mix everything but one song
Because the first very first song I ever released was actually mixed by someone else who I thought was you know
Or going to be stick around for a little longer him and I were real tight real cool
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He was kind of like my first college friend that I made and stuff like that and so he's like yeah
You know send me your stuff. I know you've been working. I love to mix it and stuff like that and
One night and you me and junior were already cool
At that time again to know each other one night. He came and he was like
You know, we he saw me playing in a piano room at the school at at lmc
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This is junior. Yeah, junior
I just want to make sure I didn't get lost in the sauce. Okay. Yeah
So junior came and I'm just I'm killing time waiting for the night class to start playing the piano on the piano room
And he comes up to me and he we just chopping it up
We talking and then he tells me that he also likes to mix the master stuff and all that kind of stuff
Okay as well and I'm like a bit cool and stuff like that
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Other other bro already had my music, you know, you know I'm saying it's so
Literally the next day the next morning
Old breast system crashed and was like shine. He was like they shine. I can't make some stuff
My system just crashes over it's like done for and I was like, junior
You know and so
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Organic
organic natural connections and these people that I
Established a relationship with five six seven ten years ago
They still around
When I come up everyone's gonna come up with me
So can we talk about
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Writing it down
Like a business plan or just in general like I just feel that a lot of times
Um, we just have all these ideas in our head but like it's something so powerful about like writing down the vision and putting it on the wall
Like what the bible says? Yeah
so, um
I journal as you know, I journal a lot and part of my a lot of my journal is me writing that those ideas down
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It's very important to write it down because it's something like and what I mean by writing it down
I mean like get a pen some paper and not like on your phone. Yeah, it's not the same
And some about actually scribbling those lines out or like writing those lines out and just like
It's it's just something maybe it's just me
Maybe it's a personal preference, but it's just something about from the head to the pen to the paper versus just tap tap tap tap
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Okay, cool. You know what? I mean, I feel like it's a little bit more of a thought process for me
but like for example
just to show some sort of uh
What it can do
I first wrote about
starting a podcast
In november of 2021
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I wrote it because I knew I wanted to do it
There were some conditions I said I wasn't going to do it by myself meaning no co-host
and that was like the
The main thing and like if it's gonna be by myself
I'm not doing it because I didn't feel like it would make for great content
And so it's like I need a co-host. I don't know who in the world is gonna be
But I know i'm not doing it unless I got a co-host and it has to be legit and straight and awesome
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All that it just has to make sense
And I wrote it in my journal
It was like the second journal entry I ever made in that thing. I had just brought the book
Here we are in 2023
See what i'm saying
Just like that
It was in there wrote it down wrote it down and I wrote it down and I kept it pushing
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It's something about writing it down. It kind of like etches it more
It's kind of submits it more in your heart when you write something down
at least for me I can only really speak for myself, but
Yes, definitely write your I really believe in that I do that all the time
And then I go back and I look and it just some about writing it down to commit some more to heart commit some more to memory
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so
Yes, I definitely recommend that
Personally write it down and then like also go back over time and just like read it too
Kind of to remind yourself
Like oh yeah these are the things that I want these are the things that i'm praying for these are the things that i'm working more
Working towards
And it's like amazing like for me, it's amazing writing something down and then it like
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Happens like we you and I just had that conversation
Just on the phone like last night is like like I wrote about wanting to launch a podcast and
You know, I know the full story though. That's like a funny. Oh, yeah
So, but oh no, but sorry literally just what I meant by that was just like because he wrote it down and then pretty much
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He was like we I was like talking about interviewing him for his transparency to album
That's what I meant. And then I was he was like, oh do you want to interview me?
And I was like, okay great and then I got there and he's like, so this is the podcast and I was like
Oh, I had no idea
So and then he was like, yeah, like this is a podcast. He's like you wanted a podcast
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I want to podcast and he said that on like the first episode
I was like right and I was just like, okay
On on the phone like she even gave the name yeah for it and everything she kept feeding so much into it
It's like we can't you can't feed that much into it and at least not follow through a see where it could go
Even if it don't work
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but
Yeah, like you'll see it
You'll see it when you watch the first if you haven't watched the first episode watch the first episode
Especially towards the end you'll kind of catch on where I'm like
We were figuring out all in that moment
And we just did it we just acted quick off the inspiration and just did it
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That's really what it is when it comes to just to wrap things up
that's really what it is when it comes to like your goals and your dreams, whatever it is, it's like
Once the little spark happens
Take advantage of it. Yeah, there we go and it grows. Yeah, I think that's a good note
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Everyone gotta know who put all this together. Yeah, it's not just people in front the camera
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But we back in it another episode of unrehearsed ladies and gentlemen. It's your boy DeShawn
It's your girl Moe and we back again on unrehearsed and today
We're doing
dreams and visions
now
This one now throughout our time filming. I have noticed that this is a topic that is covered
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Quite a bit or it will yeah, or just at least hint it on maybe not
That hasn't really been much of a dedicated episode. We did do characteristics of success. Oh, we did kind of tap we tap
So
It makes this way in and out
Or yeah, it'd be weeping it'd be tiny and intertwined
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But we figured it'd be good to do a nice little dedicated episode because I mean why not?
We're out here chasing dreams. Yeah
Anyway
So I
Had a dream that one day
I was so maybe just really got mad. I'm sorry, right? It was all a dream
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He used to read word up magazine saw him pepping heavy day up in my limousine and pictures on my wall
anyways
Heck alike. So let's talk about big that's what this is really about
Biggie just want to talk about big into pocket. I want to know biggie BB. Can't you see sometimes you want to just anyways
Okay, let me get back on track. I'm sorry. Oh, so
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dreams and
visions well there well
There's some conversations that I've been having with the specific human that I can't share
But the specific human is working on things and so and it has to do with dreams
And so I was like hey, we should talk about that because what are your dreams?
And so yeah, I just thought this would be a fun topic because I do feel that a lot of times as we get older
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We've learned to
Whether it's through ourselves or we've gotten comfortable with where we are. We've learned to settle
For just wherever we are and we forget about our dreams
We forget about the things that you know kept us up us up at night
We forget about the things that like just kept us going and like that
We just worked really hard and like non-stop and was like am on the grind like I want to make this happen
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And yeah and same thing with vision. I feel like we talked about vision
You know when 2020 happened everyone's like, oh 2020 vision, but really like clear like perfect vision
It's like what 1020 souls like oh we were not on it, but it's okay. We was out here trying
Right come on literally nobody had a vision for that one saw that coming and so
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Yeah, so I just wanted to talk about that. So can we just start off talking about complacency?
I just kind of let's just jump into it like dive on in
Complacency complacency is
Dangerous
Dangerous and certain circumstances, okay. Oh interesting like not altogether dangerous
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well
Yeah, not all it just depends. Oh, you're interesting. Okay, please explain to me and the people I mean person
Okay, what do I what is it? What do I always say? It's not the way is a way
I think something like this. It's like a
Case by case basis. I'm not necessarily black or white
You know some
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Some with some stuff it's like okay, it's either this or that and then with some stuff is like, okay
Maybe it's more appropriate to tackle it case by case
Okay, so it's like I say that because we know Paul said in the Bible godliness will continue in a great game
So it's like okay
Maybe
Maybe depending on what it is or maybe I'm just kind of mistakenly like mixing up the two but
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Maybe depending on what it is
complacency
Is it bad like if God has you doing a certain thing and that's where he wants you to be even, you know
Like oh, I feel like I'm gonna do more but like I was like nah you I want you right here
Let's see that's contentment. That's good said, okay
I feel like it is what you said like complacency. Let me just pull up the definitely
I'll just say maybe I need a dictionary
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I need a dictionary. Okay, let's Google it on my Alonzo LeRoe
I'm a Merriam-Webster it
Okay, I'm a Google it so definition from Oxford languages complacency means a feeling of a smug or
uncritical satisfaction with one's self or one's achievements
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I'm just looking at the synonyms of it. I guess perhaps this word didn't mean entirely what I thought it was
So maybe I am just mixing this too, but this definition off of Merriam-Webster's dictionary app says self-satisfaction
Especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies
So yeah, I think I'll probably mix enough definitions. Okay, so I'm gonna go with this definition
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So forget everything I just said don't forget what you just said just for complacency
Complacency is complacency contentment is contentment. Okay now that we've established that okay
Placency is bad
Definitely cuz I was like I know it naturally has a negative connotation when people are talking about it
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But we do hear what you're saying cuz you were like, oh, but I'm not sure what you're saying
Cuz you were like, oh, but it is important to learn to be content but contentment
I feel like complacency comes when there's goals. There's visions
There's dreams, but you just stop working towards it or you start settling you're like, you know what?
Maybe that dream was way too big
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Right, like maybe I'd rather help somebody else make their dream come true and that's me fulfilling my dream while that hurt my soul
But that's some people's story that probably opened up for another conversation
You probably should have off camera. Okay, just cuz I don't know where that could go. Okay
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But yeah complacency
It is it is dangerous
Especially if you really have big I mean
It's this day just when having those definitions be our foundation I guess for this conversation
dangerous, but it is a
Trap and it's like you have to fight it. You know what I mean?
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Cuz like
if you want to get
To let's say at the top of the mountain even climbing climbing climbing always gonna be another
I'm always gonna wanna make it
Me always gonna be in a pill battle
Yeah
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Came up watch that's not Hannah Montana, but my sire's get it right in the movie right it was so Miley Cyrus
But yeah, don't know. Okay, but anyway
That's sorry if you want to get up to the mountain so yeah, you got your mountain top obviously everyone starts at the bottom
You've been climbing so now you're like somewhere in the middle and you look back and like Meg
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You know, I actually came a long way. Yeah, that's actually pretty good
But you didn't still reach that top goal that you want you might get the place like man
It's really getting to the top that important. I've gotten this far. This is pretty good
Maybe most people don't get as far as where I've gotten right gotten this far
and it's
It's I feel like it's
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Natural at some point to fight those thoughts off because at some point you're going to question like bang
Is this worth it? You know what I mean? Is this worth it all this stuff?
I'm doing especially when you're not like seeing with both
I've been there and I I fight those. Oh gosh
I fight those thoughts off because
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Remembering in moments like that. You got to remember your why like okay? We know what you're doing
But why are you doing it right?
And yeah, I was just gonna say I feel like sometimes that's beautiful by the way, isn't he just lovely you guys? Let's just
but I was
But I was gonna say though I do feel that
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But you said was beautiful. I think a lot of times some people oh, bro
I was like don't be getting at my part
I was like don't be getting at my posture right now. I think a lot of times. I was like
I was just gonna say why sometimes our why isn't strong enough. I'm finding that out
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Cuz I think cuz I've heard people say that a lot of times and I'm like okay and like I'm gonna just keep it
I'm one of those people where I'm like okay
Like this is the vision and I'm like I have no idea how to keep it
so I just immediately am stuck as soon as I have the vision or the dream cuz I'm like I don't know how to like
This is where I want to be so let's just like put it in reverse and like get there
And then I'm like okay like you know I like think of good reasons like I want to do it for generational wealth
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Let's go, and then it's like maybe two weeks, and I'm like generational wealth ain't worth it
So I'm just like let's just take a break like let's do something else and so yeah, so I feel like me personally
I don't think complacency is my problem or like I don't think so much finding a why is my problem
But it's just like having it be a solid why is what gets me like stuck cuz I'm like okay
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generational wealth and yeah, but go
Yeah
Solid why yeah well I
Think well, what is my why I think that's probably the best
Oh my god let's talk about it. That's gonna be good. Or at least how I came about like figuring out what my why is
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It can't just be cuz you're good at it. I mean right that's not enough, but it's like oh, I'm good at it
It's just like you know
You know I was I was good at you know
several things
But I don't really keep up with some of those things so much anymore. You know cuz it's like
I wasn't strong enough. It was cool for a time. It was fun or whatever case was like you know so
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for me
My bad, you know you're good ahead you're good. We want to make sure this is top-tier quality yeah
but um
for me in
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My journey and perhaps this is natural for everyone in their journey, but the why
Changed really yeah why?
there's
There's the essence in the core. There's the root if you will okay
And then what sprouts out of that has changed like for example, okay when I first always go back to music cuz
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Everything kind of like bleeds back there, so when I first started
my why for making that
Soundcloud mixtape was like
It's been tugging on my heart for years. I
Couldn't come up with a good enough reason not to do it okay
And I'm trusting in God when doing it so why not?
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Why not so it was like okay? Why not?
This is like a little leap of faith. I didn't expect much of anything at all
I actually really had no I actually had no expectations for that first mixtape and
I just wanted to see if I could do it okay, and
So that was your why that was the earlier like that's the first one it's been tugging at my heart for years
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I feel like it's God tugging at my heart specifically I keep you know being attracted to it
Why not try it out cuz yeah my thing is I don't want 30 40 years to pass by and I look back at these moments
And like man, I never even gave it a shot. You just heard some people's souls right now
It's not too late though. Y'all we still love y'all
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Yeah, but that was that was that was my why you know yeah, I didn't want you know because what I've learned
You know I'm not a good singer
You know I'm not where I want to be yet, but what I've learned fairly quickly is that I?
Can put five dollars out there
It could bring five dollars to go and not come back or five dollars can come and bring him work, so it's
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Money is gonna money's a tool
Time however
Podcast money being a tool. Yeah flames put the emojis up
So yeah, bunny is a tool, but time however
Time however it comes and it goes and it does not come back for you
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You know like you're only going to be 15 once you're not gonna go back in time
You're only gonna be in your 20s once and there I believe in
Windows this is just personally I believe there is a window of time for everything yeah
God gives
certain windows of time for
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Everything I believe that if I kept pondering and just
Overthinking about whether or not I actually step out on faith and try this and after a while my window of time would have closed
Yeah, that's true. That is very true. Do not know when
And I be who is a very curious person at times and ain't was not curious enough to really want to find out
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hmm, but I believe that there are windows of time for everything and so
That was my why I didn't want time to pass me by knowing that after I'm no longer young
I'm not going to be young again, and I I missed an opportunity
Yeah, never know where it can lead to so that was the start and that keeps me going. That's the root okay?
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so
Branching out of that and then crazy stuff happening in my life. It was it just
several other reasons came about that are really good reasons, but not necessarily as
They're strong, but not as
Strong as what the root did the root got me right okay the root got me going
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It's like okay cuz that even if the those other reasons change
I'm still like well time is still what it is
Yeah, I can't let all this time pass by and not take advantage of the time and opportunity that I have yeah, and so
You know going along is you know okay? I started buying a little bit more into it now. It's like well
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I'm going as hard as I am because I want to be able to really put my all into this
I want to be able to do this full-time. That's another why
You know what I mean, or you know now you know I got
Now as we speak I got people that believe in me and what I'm doing
That's I've debated whether I want to say cuz I knew it's gonna get
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But it's the truth it is the truth and so I got you know people that believe in me and they help me out and
That's another why yeah, that's a strong why that is very strong
Why that is very strong one a very strong wife, but that's another white that wasn't the why at the very start
I didn't have it. It was just me and just wanted to see if I could do it
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It was just a curiosity thing now that I know I could do it okay
Let's take this up come on so so be encouraged. That's I like that
That's the why so I think it'd be great just to challenge if some of you have dreams and visions
You're like oh, I want to do this like and you're trying to find a solid why but you're having a hard time
Let your first why be like why not and why not let it be you like why not you be the one to fulfill that dream
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Why not you be the one to be the first to do it or be the one to do it better right go for it
We believe in you. We love you
Oftentimes it's not necessarily
Well depending on how you look at it may be the first in your family
But oftentimes in a grand scheme of things in a world view scheme of things
It's not necessarily the first to do something, but you could provide something new to the table
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I'll never forget someone saying go into the store and look at the bread aisle
What literally like go into the store, and you just look at the bread aisle bread's been around forever
But look at how many brands of bread there are
Bunch of people doing the same thing, but just bringing something different something else unique to them
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Right like yo he was right yeah
And they're for motivation right
Every time I every time I'm in the store, and I end up down the bread I'll end up thinking about that
I'm a while
So it's really if you don't allow your self to have excuses there really will be no excuses Wow
You hurting people today sir hurt in our hearts. I promise we need to hear it though. It just don't feel good
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I'm like oh ouch. I promise I'm not trying to hurt
It's just but it's the it's the truth and it's yeah everything I'm saying is not that I've learned personally and so
but starting off
like for example I
Don't know exactly what you were because you didn't say exactly what you were going for me
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Yeah, but you you said at first maybe it was just a hypothetical situation, but you said at first your wife was like generational wealth
That's a good why that's a really good why probably too strong of a why to start off with correct ouch, okay?
I'm just gonna go now
Because think about it like this
I mean generational wealth is I mean who wouldn't want to create you know wealth so much right pass on to the next generation of the family
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but
Think about like my why when I started off. I just want to see if I can do it
Yeah, I wasn't considering my family
I wasn't considering I wasn't thinking about oh, I want to impact the world to be the greatest rapper ever
Yeah, you don't want to be the GOAT. That's too much
Okay
Starting off that's actually a really good point. I think you know I just want to see if I can do it
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Oh, okay, then I was able to do it. I was like okay now that I did it
Let's I know now that I did it once I know I could do it again
Let's see if I can do it better, okay, and then you just keep you just keep building. That's good
I do feel like I can start to cry
We didn't bring tissue just kidding no I do feel that going back to what you're saying though a big reason
Why I try to find a reason outside of myself is because like a lot of times like I have a lot of self-doubt
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And like I don't believe in myself enough to be able to fulfill those dreams or like reach that vision
If I'm being transparent, yeah, that makes sense. I've dealt with that a lot even as you know
I'm a lot better. I really don't have those kind of things anymore, but last year I did
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last year so but
Yeah, I mean I've learned that a
Confidence booster is just starting small and patting yourself on the back like literally like if you really
Pete what I was saying and like my story of starting off everything was just a confidence booster
I was like like I had no expectations. I said that I had no expectations for that project
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I'm not expecting the chart hit radio. Okay go viral. I'm not expecting any of that. Okay
I just want to see if I can do it. Okay
Because I have my doubts. I knew I could write a song
I wrote in the rain hundreds by then but actually creating something and putting it out there. Okay, and
for people to
Consume for themselves. It's like okay
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I just want to see if I can do it. That's the only goal. I want to know if I can do it. I
Put out six songs on the project because I felt that was a good number to shoot for okay
I wasn't shooting now. I can put out like 15 on the joint
Oh, no, it's not
Standard link we get it we get it we get it starting off that would have been
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Overwhelming. Yeah for someone who had never done it before so I was like, okay
About five or six songs. I can create five or six songs. That's pretty solid
Okay, and so I did that I created six. I produced it myself. I spent a couple of months working on it and
You know junior he mixed it. Shout out junior. He's mixed all of my stuff and
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I put it up there and I was like, I did it. I knew it was going to show my amateurism
I even sent it to Ryan shout out Ryan who can teach all of my stuff. I knew it was going to
Show the fact that I hadn't done that before but I just want to see if I could do it and then
Once I put it out there. I was like, wow, I did it
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so now that I
Boom, that's a confidence booster night and went to the next level
Okay, mentally cuz like man you did something at first that you wouldn't really too sure if you can do
and you put it out there you you got the job done
That's good. Now you can do it again. So it just starts off small
Literally, literally like if you build in a tower, you're not going to start building the 30th floor
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You gotta break your ground first lay your foundation and build up and then like after I
shortly after I released that first tape an old friend of mine that I
Had met in high school at we hadn't seen each other in a couple of years because I was like, I'm not gonna do it
school at we hadn't seen each other in a couple of years because she graduated before me and
I was at the community college and I
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Was setting up this back when I was studying recording our saw
I think we were just setting up the classroom setting up the studio for a practice session or something like that and
Doing that and then I see her from a far off and I'm like
I'm like so so but it's like blurry. Yeah, you know, and I just kind of like I shot a man and she turned her head
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I mean she started walking towards me. Oh, yeah, that is so and so and then she come up to me and she said hey
I peeped your tape, you know, like I had just recently and I knew this was God
He was like I had just recently got into the church and got saved and I was just looking for some
You know new music to like listen to
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Oh, and she was like that was very like timely
I was like, wow
So, yeah
You know now my wife is stronger than ever okay because I've put out several projects
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Hit radio. I've been teased with it
I'll say that I've been teased with with what I know that I could accomplish and I have more people
believing in me now
And so now the why is a lot stronger, but if I was like, oh, yeah
Like oh I'm gonna rap then we're gonna podcast and merge on that stuff
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I was like, let me just see if I could actually make a song. Okay
Got to start with what you can handle then build is what I'm saying. Okay, come on
I feel like so I just have to touch on a couple things because one thing is like can we talk about mindset?
Because what you're talking about and we talked about this last time and just like book recommendations, but I do want to bring up thinking
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We're rich. Yeah, because I feel like that was a big like
Attribution to like your mindset now when it comes to like your dream and things like that. Yeah, I must I'm wrong
So you correct me if I'm wrong and if so just like yeah, I started putting out music at when I was 18
Okay, I read three. I came across thinking grow rich when I was it was after I turned 22
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Really?
And I'm 23 now. So it's okay here and a half. Okay, so that books entry
Into my life is very recent. Okay
I never knew the book existed and actually never bought the book
It was gifted to me by a former coworker of mine thinking girl rich
It was gifted to me about a year and a half ago and even then
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It took me a minute to actually because I'm a slow reader
It took me a minute to actually crack open the book and read it. So I probably held it on held on to it for like
Maybe six months
anywhere between three to six months before I actually decided to read it and
Yeah, so that came later. Okay. So then with your mindset, so
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How would you encourage those of us who are like, okay, I have a dream. I have vision
Like how do I get out of my head to where I can actually?
Create steps and actions to get there because I think that's something that people struggle with
Yeah, would you say that you just kind of struggle through it and you're just like you just start going or like what would be helpful?
That that's actually part of it. Um, you're definitely gonna struggle through something. Okay do this
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I
Honestly take notes from what I did notice how I started off mentally I started off small because I was starting off small
So it's like okay. I wasn't you know, everyone wants to like shoot for the stars, which is great
But I was a little bit more realistic at that time
And I was like like I knew I didn't have any expectations. I knew it was gonna show off my amateurism
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I just wanted to see if I could do it. It would get no smaller than that
No smaller than that, you know, it's you got to meet yourself where you're at. Yeah, so
mentally start off small figure out whatever your first step is and then like
And if you have to set a deadline
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There's power in a deadline there is truly there's power and like holding yourself to a deadline because you know
You have to abide by that
I
Hold myself to deadlines, you know when I'm
Creating songs. It's like okay by this time. I
Gotta start sending stuff in and mixing and mastering and it
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You know, I would never slacking leading up to that point
But it adds more to the focus because I know that I'm supposed to get these records into junior first
They gotta go to Ryan. So I gotta sit on the Ryan and then
That don't spend as much time as he needs to it and he's gonna send his notes back
But I got to get these records in the junior by this time, you know
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Or like we're you know, if it's about time to release stuff, we got to shoot music videos
We got to get these videos going at by this time because by this time we have to release because
Yours about the end or I'm trying to get out within a certain amount of time. It's like deadlines
But before you even get there
Start very small. Okay, you know, whatever your first step is for me. My first step was okay
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I'll write a song
Okay. Wow, that was so simple. Like okay write a song. The first step is often very simple
So my first step was okay write a song. I've written plenty of songs before
So it wasn't like I was unfamiliar to writing a song
write a song
Roll the song spend some time spend some time writing while also like making beats
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I was messing around with just making beats in general at that time. So now it's okay now these beats
I'm gonna work on this like stuff that
I'm gonna try to get it to as good as I feel like I can get him to
Is so just doing what I normally would do
Right, like how I normally would write but this time is I'm actually trying to get out there
So then it was like, okay now I got to get the recording equipment. I didn't buy
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two computers the mics and mic stands and the software all at once, you know, I got I got
This pretty guys probably can't see it but the computer record mode right now was actually give it from my dad for my 18th
birthday
so
Didn't have to buy a computer. So it's like, okay mind you
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I was like studying recording us at the time
And so I would go and ask questions to the people that knew more than I did. That's a good one
Yes questions ask questions
Pick people's brains. And so I would go I remember I would go to the the program counselor
His name is Aaron. Shout out Aaron. I'll never forget Aaron
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Because the thing that he recommended I still use to this day which is it's an interface of
Not a focus right but a pre-sonus interface
And he was like, okay, this is your budget. You're working at Jack in a box
You're just starting to kind of like build your little home studio. You just started off. You don't really want anything
super complex Sean
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So and he didn't he plugged me with sweet water, which is a website where I got it from and that was I still use
sweet water to this day and he was like
You should probably get you this this is just a hundred dollars
Okay, I got a hundred dollars bought that
And then it was like, okay now I got this what else do I need? Well, I'm gonna need a microphone
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I was studying microphones as part of the program at the time. So I was like, okay
For my from what I'm doing. I probably could use this type of microphone. I went to the guitar center and conquered which is like
20 or so minutes from where I live and I went in there. I'll just like hey
I'm trying to do this and I need a microphone and then they started helping me out. It's like, okay
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We have this this sounds like it'll fit your knees
This one works
This was actually the second microphone. I got the first microphone. I got
So the second microphone I got
We went to the guitar center and got it and I got it on deal because it was the last one to start
And also I saw that and then probably at the same time or a little bit time later a little while later. I got the
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The mic stand. Okay. So in the midst of all this you were still writing the song. I was still producing
the beats and working on
Actually writing the songs. Okay, and slowly but surely just bringing in the equipment
Okay, and like one of my meaty keyboard
it was like
Cyber Monday. Yeah, it was Cyber Monday right after Black Friday
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So I got it on deal and stuff like that. So I got that and it actually sat for a while before I actually used it
but
Yeah, and I just kind of slowly because I recognize that this is the steps. This is what I needed and
Then it's like oh, where's the place to record?
Well, I knew I didn't want to spend money on studio time. Okay, and both my parents worked at the time. So I was like
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Let me just do this
Okay, and so they were both at work I came home from school I can't record and
I was just doing it because we were in a much smaller tighter space at the time
So that's the only at the time that's the only space that I had to even record
So I went home from school set my stuff down grab my computer
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Got my phone with the lyrics on it while my parents were still at work. I
started
and they're dropping bars
and
Boy, I didn't know and I actually said it on character wishes of success
I think very first song I ever ever ever ever recorded never came out to this day never is gonna come out
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Hey very first song ever recorded I sent it to island and he critiqued it so
Yeah, that was just like my beginning I remember recording in my parents room and then
Mid mid take my I hear knock on the door is my dad and like you done in there like he getting in from work
He's trying to come in the room
That's where I start. You know, you got to start from where you at if you at the bottom of the stairs
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You're not gonna think man if I could just
I'm like all the way over and boom now I'm at the top step
I mean there are some people that like look if I just like skip every four steps, I'm gonna get there faster
Start with step one
And that's really just how you do it and you just keep building off of that stuff
Okay. Well now because you've said it multiple times like there there's a whole dream team behind you and that
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Believe in you and things like that
So I guess what would you suggest when it comes to like who's in your circle during that time?
Because I feel like a lot of times like, you know, there's people and we talked about this in characteristics of success
But there's like really people who are like trying to kill the dream and trying to kill the vision, you know
Or they're just like so this is like a side note
But there's this book called the artist way, which we also talked about before
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By Julia Cameron and like the part that I'm on right now is talking about
Crazy makers is what they call it
And it's like crazy makers are people who like will literally suck up all your time when you like have
Deadlines and things like that. It's like oh they need you and like the moment that you're starting to create in the moment that you're in
Flow they're like, oh I need you to do this and I need you to do that
And it's just like and it's disruptive right? And so it's very disruptive to your creative process
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and so another thing that the book was talking about was how
As you are as a creative like because we all are like creation
So like we all have some kind of creativity some kind of thing that we were supposed to be putting out into the world
Amen
And so that being said
A lot of times like when we ourselves as individuals are inside of like creative
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Flow and we're beginning to become unblocked creatively the people around us can start feeling some type of way because they're still creatively blocked
So it's almost like this frustrating when they see you like getting out of the like, you know chains or grass of
Like just I don't know like complacency and just like not being creative and not doing what you're made to do and things like that
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There's almost like this jealousy that rises up like oh they think that they better than me or something like that
But it's like that's not the case at all
They're just becoming creatively unblocked and you're mad because you're still stopped up and you're constipated creatively
And you need some prune juice, you know
You need some like stool like you need some help some laxative
Creatively, of course unless you really need it then
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Yeah, so you're asking about like how
How do you choose people? Yeah?
Well, I think that's hard because sometimes we want it to be family and you're like, oh my so and so and like yeah
You know, but it's just like what what just say it you get a note. I ain't gonna say that part
Okay, because sometimes you do sometimes you're like, oh, I just want it to be family or like almost it becomes like a convenient thing
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And we forget about like character
We forget about like how people have shown up in our lives and things like that
And we don't take all those things into account when it comes to our dream, but it's sacred. It is something special
Yeah, so sorry that was like a lot. No, no, no, that's that's that's legit. Yeah, that's legit
so, um
Mind you as to to the audience as we're filming this as you're watching this
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We are on the ground floor and we are everything is coming together and building on
Nowhere near am I where I want to be but
Where can I get there? But I have said on this episode that there are people
That aren't in front of camera that help make stuff like this possible. Yeah now
As far as how to assemble the Avengers
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Well
That is very good
I'll be having you speechless sometimes. I'm like, so sorry. I'll be asking questions. I don't ever think about this is really good
This is really good one. Well chemistry is very important. Okay, but what I've learned with myself
There was always a bond established
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and something of
something of
Meaning something like substance like it's not just like fickle
before it
Before some sort of business aspect started. Oh, that's good. Like for example with with Brandon who I always shout out every episode
Oh, you didn't so far. So shout out to Brandon shout out to Brandon
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Just in case I ain't shot him out there. I'm gonna be like, oh my god
Brandon shout out to Brandon just in case I ain't shot him out this episode. I probably did but hey
We just love him. We've been filming all day
Me and Brandon known each other since we were 15 we didn't start doing this until
Years later
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Like I think three or so years later by that time we were we been brothers
We've been part of we've been the squad been family
You know, we knew Allen I met Allen. I don't know when Brandon exactly when Brandon met Allen, but I met Allen at 13
10 years later, you know what I mean you it's been like what three years?
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Three years we just now started doing this
Ryan who critiques the music went to school with me and Brandon and Allen in the squad
I would see Ryan all the time. He graduated the same year as I would see Ryan all the time all throughout campus
With that football shout out Ryan
He gonna laugh when he see that part and when we started
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We started uh, we were both in the the uh, lmc program recording arts program together
So we had a lot of classes together. Okay, and so we got real close
and
I would give him rides home and stuff and
um
You know, I think at one point it's like yeah, I'm outside you bit of gas when I said bro
No, I'm good, bro. My dog. I'll take you to the crib. So I
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I would take him home every night because we would have night classes and stuff like that
so I take him home and then
You know
I met his I met his parents and all of that kind of stuff and he even did a song with his mom on one
of my earliest earliest stuff
and
You know something was established before we got into that and with junior me and junior
We all met we met met junior in the same program
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You know something was established there and all those kind of things. So
I'm all for organic connections. Okay, you know stuff that happens naturally
Um
and so
Things have been able to come together pretty easily
because it's like
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You know, it's like I'm getting to know people and they're becoming like part of the family
And then somewhere along the way like oh we just ended up doing it
Ended up doing this type of thing. Like I didn't know we was going to end up doing a podcast
Together like six eight months ago
Or like when we first met it was just the thought like I knew I wanted a podcast
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I knew I wanted a podcast and we knew each other wanted a podcast
But even then it was like oh I want to pocket you want to pocket do something like no that didn't come till way down
And so for me, it's just been natural connections natural like organic stuff
and
There's been times where I thought certain people would
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be more
Committed
Um, I find that some people are in for the long haul some people were in just for that particular moment
That's and that's perfectly fine
You know god orchestrates all things and everyone
He have everyone plays whatever role that he'll have for them to play
And so that's what I would say if it comes together naturally and organically. That's the best thing because it's like, you know
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It's real, you know, it's not like you met the person with the intent of it being that okay. Gotcha
You know what I mean? Yeah, and it's like for example, I'll put it to you like this
Let's say this stops
transparency music podcasts all of that stuff
Let's say
Brandon motion to cut the camera off. Let's say I let's say I quit or what this is forever whatever reason this stops
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Brandon is still my dog
Is is brothers first we also do this though
You still my dog
You know what? I mean, we also do this though, right? Ryan is still my dog
I still check up on breath and it ain't just to like hey y'all I sent you some stuff in your email
Yeah, how you doing how mama and them how to hire your siblings and them? How you how your niece or nephew doing?
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You know, I still tap in with Jenna from time to time who uh for those that don't know me and Jenna
We co-produce and we've done a lot of stuff if you like once more time. That's all Jenna. Um
Yeah, and uh
Junior, you know what I'm saying? I'll still tap in like bro. You straight. How you doing? Yeah, you know
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If I stopped that part's not gonna change
Okay, you know I get you you know what I mean? It does make a difference
You would say huge difference in like the production and just even in like the getting things done part of things. Yeah, it's like
I think it makes a difference because it's just
it's just
It has more like I guess what's the word sentimental value or I don't know something along those lines
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It's just it means a little more. Yeah, okay, you know because it's this isn't just oh, it's just some guy
I know or just some guy makes like nah
I don't know every me and junior know each other five years. We met we met when I was uh
18 and
I
Funny thing is I was going to have my first
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Project get mixed by someone else
Okay, um, they already had the music and actually so if I was to be technically speaking juniors mix everything but one song
Because the first very first song I ever released was actually mixed by someone else who I thought was you know
Or going to be stick around for a little longer him and I were real tight real cool
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He was kind of like my first college friend that I made and stuff like that and so he's like yeah
You know send me your stuff. I know you've been working. I love to mix it and stuff like that and
One night and you me and junior were already cool
At that time again to know each other one night. He came and he was like
You know, we he saw me playing in a piano room at the school at at lmc
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This is junior. Yeah, junior
I just want to make sure I didn't get lost in the sauce. Okay. Yeah
So junior came and I'm just I'm killing time waiting for the night class to start playing the piano on the piano room
And he comes up to me and he we just chopping it up
We talking and then he tells me that he also likes to mix the master stuff and all that kind of stuff
Okay as well and I'm like a bit cool and stuff like that
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Other other bro already had my music, you know, you know I'm saying it's so
Literally the next day the next morning
Old breast system crashed and was like shine. He was like they shine. I can't make some stuff
My system just crashes over it's like done for and I was like, junior
You know and so
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Organic
organic natural connections and these people that I
Established a relationship with five six seven ten years ago
They still around
When I come up everyone's gonna come up with me
So can we talk about
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Writing it down
Like a business plan or just in general like I just feel that a lot of times
Um, we just have all these ideas in our head but like it's something so powerful about like writing down the vision and putting it on the wall
Like what the bible says? Yeah
so, um
I journal as you know, I journal a lot and part of my a lot of my journal is me writing that those ideas down
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It's very important to write it down because it's something like and what I mean by writing it down
I mean like get a pen some paper and not like on your phone. Yeah, it's not the same
And some about actually scribbling those lines out or like writing those lines out and just like
It's it's just something maybe it's just me
Maybe it's a personal preference, but it's just something about from the head to the pen to the paper versus just tap tap tap tap
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Okay, cool. You know what? I mean, I feel like it's a little bit more of a thought process for me
but like for example
just to show some sort of uh
What it can do
I first wrote about
starting a podcast
In november of 2021
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I wrote it because I knew I wanted to do it
There were some conditions I said I wasn't going to do it by myself meaning no co-host
and that was like the
The main thing and like if it's gonna be by myself
I'm not doing it because I didn't feel like it would make for great content
And so it's like I need a co-host. I don't know who in the world is gonna be
But I know i'm not doing it unless I got a co-host and it has to be legit and straight and awesome
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All that it just has to make sense
And I wrote it in my journal
It was like the second journal entry I ever made in that thing. I had just brought the book
Here we are in 2023
See what i'm saying
Just like that
It was in there wrote it down wrote it down and I wrote it down and I kept it pushing
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It's something about writing it down. It kind of like etches it more
It's kind of submits it more in your heart when you write something down
at least for me I can only really speak for myself, but
Yes, definitely write your I really believe in that I do that all the time
And then I go back and I look and it just some about writing it down to commit some more to heart commit some more to memory
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so
Yes, I definitely recommend that
Personally write it down and then like also go back over time and just like read it too
Kind of to remind yourself
Like oh yeah these are the things that I want these are the things that i'm praying for these are the things that i'm working more
Working towards
And it's like amazing like for me, it's amazing writing something down and then it like
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Happens like we you and I just had that conversation
Just on the phone like last night is like like I wrote about wanting to launch a podcast and
You know, I know the full story though. That's like a funny. Oh, yeah
So, but oh no, but sorry literally just what I meant by that was just like because he wrote it down and then pretty much
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He was like we I was like talking about interviewing him for his transparency to album
That's what I meant. And then I was he was like, oh do you want to interview me?
And I was like, okay great and then I got there and he's like, so this is the podcast and I was like
Oh, I had no idea
So and then he was like, yeah, like this is a podcast. He's like you wanted a podcast
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I want to podcast and he said that on like the first episode
I was like right and I was just like, okay
On on the phone like she even gave the name yeah for it and everything she kept feeding so much into it
It's like we can't you can't feed that much into it and at least not follow through a see where it could go
Even if it don't work
(47:31):
but
Yeah, like you'll see it
You'll see it when you watch the first if you haven't watched the first episode watch the first episode
Especially towards the end you'll kind of catch on where I'm like
We were figuring out all in that moment
And we just did it we just acted quick off the inspiration and just did it
(47:53):
That's really what it is when it comes to just to wrap things up
that's really what it is when it comes to like your goals and your dreams, whatever it is, it's like
Once the little spark happens
Take advantage of it. Yeah, there we go and it grows. Yeah, I think that's a good note
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