September 27, 2024 • 48 mins
In this new episode of Unrehearsed we open up about our experiences dealing with the harsh realities of being rejected by people and circumstances. Let's face it, rejection is inevitable. So, let's talk about it!!
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(00:00):
What is that?
(00:25):
What is what?
Oh, it's just from the headphones.
I think we're recording.
Yep, yeah, we are.
We straight.
How can you tell?
I can't tell.
That's I see it moving.
We're good.
Okay.
Yeah.
Already already press the record button on the camera too.
So are you sure?
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Yeah.
I know he's like, well, because I use logic.
So when it start moving, I'm looking for there's the bar.
Yeah, I was looking for the little detail.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the green neon line, my guy, the green neon line.
Yes, logic is a red thing.
But we back in this thing.
See, senior.
See, senior.
(01:06):
We got a Latino in here finally.
See, senora.
Not finally.
It's like finally brought on their fair skinned friends about time.
Fair skinned, dang.
Gotta expand our demographic.
But we back.
It's a rehearsal.
It's your boy, De' Sean Force.
Oh my gosh.
It's your girl, Moriana Jack, aka Mo.
(01:28):
And your surprise audio engineer, Mafioso Beats.
What's up with mafioso?
Or mafi.
Or mafi.
You know what I'm saying?
Or ma.
Ma.
Hey, yo, ma.
But we back, you know, on today's episode.
First off.
Talk about it.
I gotta give my shout outs.
(01:48):
It's become tradition.
Yeah.
Shout out, Brandon.
Brandon.
Shout out to Brandon.
I brought tea for you.
Tea for you.
I was thinking about him.
Caffeine free.
Shout out, Brandon.
He's doing his thing at the moment.
Shout out, mafi.
Audio.
Audio.
Ma.
(02:09):
Shout out, Chris.
Editing this joint.
Thank you, Chris.
Shout out to everyone.
What's up, Ryan?
Different guy.
Different guy.
My fault.
But shout out, Ryan.
Shout out, Ryan, Chris.
Shout out, Ryan, Chris.
You know what I'm saying?
He's with us on the music side, and then shout out, Chris, the editor.
The editor.
My fault.
The rehearsing.
My fault.
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It's good.
It's good.
Shout out the whole Transparency squad, bro.
We really got out here making-
I only know one Chris from this group, so that's why I said, Ryan, my fault.
Yeah.
Shout out the editor, Chris.
For those that don't know, Chris had edited all of season one.
All of season one.
Hey, bro.
Editing skills on top, bro.
Yeah, we love him.
For sure.
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But today, we talking about-
We talking about-
Rejection?
Rejection.
Okay.
Okay.
Dang, she really know how to sing, man.
I'll lay with it again.
I was like, dang.
Go ahead, bro.
We love his energy, bro.
We love it.
Most says she's tired, but I don't think she really is tired.
(03:10):
She really ain't.
She says she's tired.
Hey, man, I wonder how am I going to be when I sit out an episode?
Am I going to come back strong like that?
I'm going to be killing it.
Tired, tired.
He might freestyle to open it up.
Hey, that'd be-
Hey, it'd be unrehearsed.
I rehearsed.
It'd be unrehearsed.
That's all I'm saying.
Put a mafia beat real quick.
That's all I'm saying.
Put a mafia beat.
(03:31):
Man, throwing some of them boom baps you be cooking up.
Them boom baps.
Boom baps.
Boom baps.
Boom baps.
Or that Neptune beat.
Or that Neptune stuff.
Shout out Pharrell.
I'm going to dive into Pharrell.
Shout out to Pharrell and Chack Hugo because they really- What was it, from late 90s to
early 2000s?
2004 was a lot right there.
(03:52):
Oh my God.
A lot of them.
It was them.
What's up?
Ricky's the one.
For what?
For that episode about music that you wanted to do.
For history?
We're kind of like, or we're kind of, not nothing official, but we're kind of like game planning
a music episode.
I just thought about it.
I was like-
Because that's one thing we haven't done.
Mo really wants me to do a music episode because I'm an artist.
I really-
Look, not even because he's an artist.
(04:14):
Not even because he's an artist.
Fun fact.
So unrehearsed, in my mind, I was like, oh, I literally had a whole different idea about
what it was going to be about.
I was like, oh, okay, so I get it.
You're an artist.
I'm like, so we're going to call it unrehearsed.
Then it's like, we're going to invite other artists on and it's just going to be about-
To perform.
Right.
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We're going to talk to them, chop it up, and then at the end they're going to freestyle,
hence unrehearsed.
Then it was just like, man, took a whole different direction.
Praise the Lord for that.
You know what?
I bet you can still do that.
I bet you can still do the same formula right now.
Maybe just a different segment.
Then towards the end, if you have an artist, actually, you know how the Tonight Show's
have that, towards the end of their show they have the artist perform?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, hey.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Ooh.
Yeah.
That's something to keep in, I'll keep that around.
We can definitely do something like that.
Yeah.
Mo wanted this to be a music show.
I was like, we got to create something separate of it.
Separate of the music.
Okay, so when you said music, I thought you meant like history of music, like maybe like
certain time periods.
Is that what you mean?
No, but actually, I'm the master of everything.
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Oh, okay.
Yeah, just chopping it up as long as.
No limits.
Yeah.
But at some point I get on it.
Because if you don't know, Deshawn likes to, you know, when he listens to something, he
likes to study, he likes to break it down.
Like, he don't listen, though.
He study music.
He eats it.
He studies the production of it.
He eats it, he digest it.
Lyrics.
All of it.
I'll listen to a song and then follow it, like follow the lyrics on it.
(05:38):
I'll have one screen of the song and then another screen of the lyrics.
So I was like, I'll probably, I'll probably listen to a song.
At a particular moment, say I listen to it like two or three times.
Right.
To kind of get the feel of it, to kind of vibe, see how it resonates with me.
And then another one, like, okay, let me follow the lyrics.
I look at, ever since I started doing music, it went from being all just, you know, leisure
listening to, I look at it as like curriculum.
(06:00):
Right.
So nothing is obvious.
Same.
For me, nothing.
You go through my spot a lot.
You see a little bit of everything.
You see.
You see rap in different eras.
You're seeing different eras of R&B.
You're seeing.
You're seeing Temptations.
You're seeing classical music.
You're seeing Latin music.
I'm talking about mariachi type stuff, bro.
Hold on, hold on.
It's mariachi.
What you know about mariachi?
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It's a little bit, a little bit.
It's something I want to, I made a little note on my board because you don't want to
limit yourself.
So like I made a little note on my board just to like, leave a note to like dive into it,
to just explore.
So I've, like Rodrigo was here.
I was asking him like, yo, send me, just send me some stuff.
Send me some good stuff, bro.
And so I got to, you know, I have some stuff saved and I want to dive in on that and just
(06:44):
dive in on some catalogs.
But yeah, we'll definitely get on that one day.
The music episode.
Mariachi.
I did not expect that from you.
Bro, no one ever expects anything from me, dude.
Wow.
Like as far as that goes, like music, like I got pop stuff.
He's just a mystery.
I got pop stuff.
Yeah.
And you know, that, just not trying to turn this into a music episode.
Right.
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But just it, it, as a creator, it, it expands your mind and literally enlightens you.
So now I, the stuff I make is different because I've expanded my horizon.
Like, yo, there's different out there.
There's different realms I haven't tapped into yet.
Yeah.
Don't be surprised if you start hearing some country.
Just kidding.
He's like, never that.
There's a couple of country stuff on there too.
(07:27):
I'm shocked.
But there's a, I got to knock down some mental blocks with country because country doesn't
have a good rep, depending on where you add.
Like majority of people don't like it.
Yeah.
So I got to, but there's a, it's such a different flavor though.
That's a thing.
Yeah.
But there's occasional really good country songs.
Like one person I like is Kane Brown.
Kane Brown.
Kane Brown.
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Yeah.
And he's a black country guy.
He's, he's, he's, he's a, he's a black country artist.
I like Luke Bryan.
Luke Bryan is cool too.
Or what's his name?
Oh, his face.
He was on The Voice.
What's his name?
Blake Shelton.
Blake Shelton.
Yeah, he's cool.
Tim McGraw.
Tim McGraw.
Tim McGraw.
I seen that name everywhere.
Yeah.
So a little bit, a little bit of everything.
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We'll, I'll definitely, yeah, we got to have a whole episode dedicated to that.
But today we talking.
We talk, we talking about.
Not to make it a music episode, but we, we.
We talking about rejection.
Rejection.
Rejection specifically.
Rejection.
We got to get Mo on the track.
We talking about doors being slammed in your face.
We're talking about a whole lot of nose.
(08:33):
Now this was another.
What's that?
You get.
Oh yeah.
Now this one was another brilliant, amazing idea.
Another one.
Of the mighty mostor herself.
Rejection won't kill you.
But will it make you stronger?
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
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I love it.
I was like what?
Will it make you stronger?
Actually that's up to you whether it makes you stronger or not.
It is all in how you take it.
That's really just life.
I heard something along the lines of me and my paraphrasing because I can't ever remember anything verbatim.
It's okay.
You're not a verbatim or you're a paraphraser.
Pretty much.
Like I get the gist of it and then I keep it going.
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But it's pretty much like 80% of life is how you respond.
Not so much of what actually happens to you.
I would have to argue that.
I feel like response is part of it.
But I also feel the other part is how you're taught to perceive that and receive that.
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It's your upbringing and how you're taught to respond and stuff like that.
Because if you grow up in a home and they make it clear you're going to get a lot of no's in life.
That doesn't mean that reflects your value.
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It doesn't mean that reflects your value.
But a lot of people are going to say no to you.
A lot of people are going to shut the door in your face.
But you just keep on going.
Keep knocking on doors because someone is going to say yes.
Someone is going to see what you see in yourself.
Someone is going to see the potential, the value.
All those things.
If I grew up learning that, I would be older than myself right now.
(10:24):
That's all that I'm saying.
But no, it would have just shifted the way that I receive rejection.
Because now I'm not even taking it personal.
Okay.
Now I've got a real question, a serious question that just dawned on me.
Because you are a lady on the panel and we were talking about it behind the scenes.
(10:51):
We were talking in a sense of relationships.
Guys, mainly the ones that chase.
So they are more conditioned to have to deal with rejection.
Girls don't normally do that.
All that to say, do you think that you probably didn't get that kind of teaching because you're a girl?
In a way.
Not like, oh, she didn't get it.
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Not intentionally.
It was subtle.
Think about it.
As a guy coming up, I play football as a kid.
So basketball as a kid and other stuff.
It's normal for, assuming they're in a decent environment and background and stuff like that.
It's normal to get that tough love.
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Like, hey man, not everything is going to go your way.
You can't get everything you want.
As a young boy, young man coming up.
But I got brothers.
The only female in the house is my mom.
So I can't even say I know anything just by witnessing.
That's why I'm asking, do you think that might even just slightly play a part?
(11:55):
Because people kind of soften up more with the ladies.
That's true.
That is true.
I would say that that played a part.
I've actually never thought about that.
That thought has never crossed my mind.
But that does play a big part because I just feel like in general, girls and women were taught to be princesses.
So I just feel like even the thought of rejection isn't even on our conscience.
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So when it happens, it's almost like a shock because it's like, what is this feeling?
What is going on?
And it's crazy though.
I feel like a lot of people have a harder time coping with things in general when you don't have the right verbiage for it.
Like when you don't have the vocabulary for something that you're experiencing or you went through, you just kind of don't know what to do with it.
And you're just like, dang, I don't know what this is.
(12:42):
I don't like this feeling.
But then it's like that moment when someone says it, you're like, it clicks and you're like, that's exactly how I've been feeling.
That's what that is.
So that's just a whole side note.
That's just a little bit of wisdom for you people.
But specifically for rejection, yeah.
Like nobody.
Well, see, this is the thing.
This is so sad.
Nobody specifically talked about rejection.
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Like that wasn't a word that was used in our family because usually like when women get rejected in my family for most women, they're like, F that n***a.
I'm just being honest.
It's like, you know, it's just like a lot of just stuff.
And I'm like, OK, so I think it's just like easier to like reject them.
Like, you know, after you get rejected as a woman, it's like, OK, like, reject them back.
(13:27):
Like, you know, it's just kind of like, you know, reject me.
I reject you.
Like, literally. And so very, very defensive.
Yeah. Yeah.
And so, yeah.
So that's just like other women.
But I was going to say, like, specifically for myself, like I felt rejection as a child because like my dad was like I just had a lot of abandonment issues, a lot of like negligence when it came to my dad.
(13:50):
So I was feeling rejection like at the young age of five.
But that's a different kind of rejection.
Yeah, it is a different kind of rejection.
I was thinking more so the lines of things just not going your way.
Things didn't go my way.
Wasn't.
Me, I'm like, I would have liked to have been there.
But go ahead and explain.
Can you elaborate more?
I mean, like, let's say here's what I was initially thinking.
(14:12):
It leans the other way.
So what I was thinking of, like, you know, just, OK, rejection in the sense of you're going, maybe it's a certain opportunity.
Maybe it's just something you really want and you just get the door shut on your face.
Not so much of like, you know, I can't I can't relate to what you was getting at right there.
So that's yeah.
(14:33):
So that's that's I can somewhat relate.
That's where I was coming from.
It's like because I've I mean, I've had, you know, opportunities come along the way, especially in this entrepreneurial walk.
It's like, OK, this may be real dope.
I'll take advantage of this.
Yada yada yada.
And then you follow up because I always follow up.
And then boom, hard no.
(14:54):
You know, stuff like that.
You know, or, you know, you know, like, you know, y'all, y'all see, y'all see the show.
People watching people listening, y'all seeing y'all hear the show.
Like, oh, man, I got a great people on there.
Yada yada yada.
I mean, you're not taking account, you know, taking into account the people who have said no to unrehearsed or no to helping me out on the song.
(15:17):
Right. Even though I already wrote the lyrics or the melody, everything is good.
I just need here's the script.
Follow it.
I'll help you.
You ain't got to do that voice actor.
Basically, I've had many people tell me people who I was just sure this person is going to say yes.
And they say no, I can't imagine the situation.
And they give a hard no, like a firm no straight up.
(15:39):
Find someone else like, whoa, OK, you know, but that's what I was thinking of.
OK.
Rejection won't kill you.
And that in that sense, like obviously it won't kill you makes you it gives you character toughens you up makes you.
It does.
Honestly, I'd have to say I'm grateful.
Like just going back to like my personal story with my dad, I'd have to say that I'm really grateful because it just helped me.
(16:03):
And being a middle child, it just helped me to like really just gain a lot of independence and a lot of like, oh, like you can't wait around for people to like save you or for people to help you out.
You learned how to spend your own time.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I just had to learn how to value myself and that like my value doesn't come from like, you know, my dad not being there because like I would associate that with like, oh, I'm not enough.
(16:29):
Like that was the message that I would start thinking is your fault.
Yeah.
Am I doing right?
Right.
And so but now I'm like, no, I'm like so grateful for that.
So not grateful for it.
But, you know, I can honestly say like the Lord has just changed my understanding of that.
And I'm like, you know what?
Like it was rough.
It was rough upbringing.
But like I'm grateful for that.
But it has and it also has affected male relationships, which is like rough as well.
(16:53):
But that's like that's neither here nor there.
That's a whole different podcast for that.
That's that's the girls only podcast.
Literally, literally girls only podcast.
But I was going to ask, like, so when it comes to rejection, rejection without talking about failure.
Not necessarily know those two aren't in my experience.
(17:15):
Those two aren't the same.
They're different aspects.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, OK, so you said you asked that again.
You said, can you talk about rejection without talking about failure?
How so?
Like because I feel that because I reject because I was I was rejected.
I failed or yeah, in that sense, because I feel like a lot of people associate rejection with failure.
(17:37):
Oh, OK.
Like, oh, maybe it wasn't good enough or something like that, depending on what it is.
OK.
Well, man, see, that's that's tough because see, that's that's hard.
It really you in a situation like that, it really gets it all boils down to how you know, it boils down to a few things.
I'll give a personal story just whatever comes when it comes to it.
(17:59):
So I was I had met with y'all know I'm an artist.
So I have met with an A&R for a pretty big label.
An A&R for people who don't know A&R stands for Artist and Repertoire.
So there's different jobs and duties for an A&R who worked for a record label.
One of those things is artist development.
(18:21):
So that's what Ryan Chris does.
He does that for me.
I'm just coaching, sending back a lot of critiques for the mixing of the track, for how I recorded, how my vocals for beats,
just anything that comes to mind, he sends that back.
So that's artist development side of A&R.
And then there's the talent scout side of A&R where you're just you're searching for new talent.
(18:47):
So that's what this particular A&R was doing at the moment was just searching for new undiscovered talent.
So I had connected with this A&R for a pretty big label.
And I felt I was ready for that next stage.
The music was hitting.
Like I unlocked a new level.
(19:10):
And the performance, because I got a chance to perform from the performance was great.
He even said, I was really dope.
Like I can tell you got your confidence.
You're packing. You have it packaged well.
You can you can you can just tell like, OK, he got it.
He's good. And he was interested.
So we exchanged contact information.
(19:31):
And so following up, right, I followed up.
Nothing came from it. Didn't hear back.
Followed up a couple of times.
Maybe he didn't get the first email. I sent him another one.
Hey, just in case you didn't get my email.
Since another follow up, I think maybe I know I followed up at least a second time, but nothing just nothing came from it.
And at first I was like, dang, you know, I was like, you know, who knew what could have came from that?
(19:57):
If he just, you know, read his email and stuff like that, or maybe he did read the email and check some stuff out, you know, listen to some of the stuff.
And he was like, that's just not the artist I'm looking for.
You know what I'm saying? Can't take it personal stuff.
So it's I don't look at that as for my experience. I don't look at like, oh, man, I failed.
I mean, maybe I wouldn't as ready as I thought I was.
(20:22):
Sometimes it's you.
We don't like that.
Sometimes. Why would you say that?
You're the obstacle yourself.
Sometimes, sometimes you could feel like you're ready and you know what?
Maybe you are close. Maybe you are right there.
Maybe you need another six months to a year. Maybe, you know, but not right now.
(20:44):
And in hindsight, I was like, I just really, really just started hitting me like this past summer.
And I was like, you know, that effort was a really great effort.
It was a really big leap, a really big jump in artistry.
But I wasn't ready at that moment.
Wasn't quite there. Wow. You know.
And so it you got to swallow some pride to do that.
(21:07):
You got to swallow some pride to do that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because when you feel like you there, you locked in, you're really emotional.
But you checked yourself. You checked yourself.
Yeah. And you know, sometimes you got to kind of go through the phase,
let a little bit of time pass by and then you'll be able to see it clear.
So all that to say, I don't that doesn't feel like failure in the moment, though.
It could feel like, oh, I'm not good enough.
(21:29):
Maybe I'm failing. Is this worth it?
And you just kind of go through those whole motions of the whole like spiral.
That rejection, if you and it goes to response, how you handle it.
If you handle it right, it launches you forward.
Because I could have been like, man, bro, tripping.
I know I'm dope. I know I'm good. I do all this work.
(21:50):
You know what I'm saying? We I know what I got.
I know what I can bring to the table. I know I'm the best.
Right. I know I got it. Right.
He's playing number one. He don't know what he doing.
I'm the new Mr. Worldwide. Right.
And then and then next to, you know, you miss the opportunity to grow.
You know, you got to be careful because you can get locked into a particular mindset.
(22:11):
You kind of have to check yourself.
That's so good. At first, I was like, I was I was disappointed.
I was down. I ain't gonna lie.
But I always have this keep going, keep kind of mindset.
So I just kind of kept going. And then over time, I kind of started to to realize.
But now I'm giving it another shot. Give it another go.
Because, you know, stuff happening behind the scenes, who knows how I look six months
(22:33):
from the day of us recording this right now. But dang, that's good.
Yeah, I don't I don't really. You got to handle it right.
Sometimes maybe that rejection is a bit of failure, but you kind of need that failure.
Yeah. Rejection is a launch pad. Right.
Sometimes you need that. It really is. If you handle it right though.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, if matter of fact, if you handle it right, it launches you forward.
(22:56):
If you handle it wrong and launch it backwards, it's all in your response.
So nowhere. That's how I feel about it.
Like you need that if you're really trying to grow, you need you kind of need to be told.
No, at times you need to be told you're doing great, but you're not there yet.
Not it. You need to do this better or this is you kind of need that.
(23:18):
You know, you'll understand it later, but you need that.
That's like so good. Honestly, I swear it is.
I feel that rejection has really helped shaped me as a person and just with my character as well,
because I'm the person that asks a lot of questions because I personally don't like to feel personally.
I'm like, it's not right. I don't like failure, but I also would say that I want to give 100 percent
(23:45):
so that I don't have to like what am I trying to say?
I want to give 100 percent in general, like in everything that I do.
And so I feel like a lot of times like when it comes to rejection, like if if like you don't get that criticism,
like or you obviously like there's a certain way to not so much reject people,
but there's a certain way to talk to people.
There's a certain way to critique. Like talk to me nice.
(24:08):
And so like but when it comes to rejection specifically, I'm like I realize that me as a person, I'm like, OK,
like I don't want to get rejected.
So let me ask as many questions as I need to. And like let me ask you for constructive criticism
so that it doesn't feel like I don't feel rejection because sometimes because it's different because sometimes
people could just straight up say no. And you're like, what's going on here?
(24:29):
Like they don't give any answers, any reason.
So you're just lost. And it's just like, dang, like you're just kind of sitting and you have to like go over it
with yourself in your own mind. Yeah.
And you're like, I don't see what I'm doing. Excuse me.
Doing wrong. And so but when people like, you know, they may say no,
but then they give you reason. I'm like, that's all the more reason to like really look into those things and be like,
(24:50):
OK, like because like you said, it takes like it takes you swallowing your pride and being like, you got to be ready for it.
Like you thought you was like, yes, like I got this.
But you're like, but I did this differently. Like I feel like I already worked on these things.
But it's like you just didn't get it like you just didn't hit the mark. And that's OK.
And you know what? Maybe you actually did work on it. But these things take time. Yeah.
You know, like I asked Ricky, I had asked I had asked Mo and then I had asked Ryan just from an artistic perspective, from my music.
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Give me give me your honest thoughts. Obviously, I know they support, but like give me your honest thoughts.
Like, right. What do you think I need to focus on? I have my own analysis of myself.
But y'all give me your thing. And it was funny.
We all three, all three of us did three separate analysis. Right. All three of us landed on the same thing.
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Wow. That's crazy. Same thing.
And so that constructive criticism is great. You got to have you.
You have to. I have learned I really I crave constructive criticism. Same.
But you got to be mindful at the same time of who you allow critique. Correct.
You got to be mindful because you got to know the person who is going to give it give it right.
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Right. That and you also want to go to people that genuinely know what they're talking about.
What they're talking about. And that also genuinely love you. That too.
And just love and just have respect for what you do. I never forget one of the best pieces of advice.
And it's going to sound so simplistic to you guys. One of the best pieces of advice someone gave to me.
It was someone when I when I toured a little bit, it was the manager Danny Boy.
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Danny Boy, for those that may not know, he did records with Tupac.
I believe he was on death row. I ain't mad at you.
That's the Tupac song. Danny Boy was on there. And so I toured with him. Right.
And his manager, it was my last stop.
There was still other stops of the tour that I had to go on, but I was I was completing my last show.
And everyone they loved me there. They were like, oh, man, we wish you can keep coming.
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You know, keep doing things. And I said, I appreciate it.
But I got to get back. I work to do back home and stuff like that.
And his manager was like, can I give you can I give you some advice and constructive criticism?
I said, I want to hear it all. And he was like, you go to the gym.
I was like, yeah. And he was like, work on cardio. Oh, that might sound like super simplistic.
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You know, to work on cardio. But that's important, bro. But that's super important.
Now, mind you, I've always loved running and I was doing cardio, but I was like, OK, maybe I need to tweak something.
Right. And he was he was like, you know, I say that because when you perform, you perform, you naturally have bring a lot of energy.
But your lungs can't keep up. Now, for people that don't know, and I don't think he knew, I don't think I told him.
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For people that don't know, I'm asthmatic. So I got it extra bad. I need all the air I can get.
So sometimes it's like, you know what I mean? Because it's like I'm I'm high.
So I need a lot of oxygen, oxygen, because I'm energetic. And then plus there's asthma.
And so but that was like, yo, I needed to I needed to hear that.
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And so now I didn't know I tweak my my workouts and stuff like that.
And so now when I perform, it's not as much huffing and puffing as was there before.
Little things like that is the AVO small thing leads to be things, bro.
Small things, small changes lead to big results.
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Well, big results. I started to tell my treasure the time, brother, like, suffer, you see on a big step, bro.
Do the small things, because once you have a.
Shimbara, you can go to bigger things.
And that foundation is important. Glad that you say that.
Because I've seen examples of people with people are in situations with great foundations.
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And I've seen people in situations with not great foundations.
The thing is, whatever you lay in your foundation, you're just going to keep building on that.
Yeah, you have your second nation. Yeah.
So if your foundation is going to win, the wind comes in, the storm comes.
Your house is going to be shattered in pieces.
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Full country, Alabama, Alabama, straight Bible Belt.
So what are you founded on?
But that's that's fact. If you're if your foundation and if all aspects of your foundation
ain't what it's supposed to be, you're going to keep building on that.
Next, you know, and the things that you're supposed to that's supposed to be more advanced stuff.
Right. It's going to be rocky. Come on. And sometimes.
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Oh, come on. Your biggest moments of rejection is because your foundation is shaking.
Exactly. Your foundation. Exactly.
Yeah, stable. And sometimes the like scary part is that sometimes you just don't even know that.
So I guess the next question would be, how do you like let's say that my foundation is stable right now.
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It's like how like what steps can I take or what can I do to begin to notice?
Like does it like does it just come with a lot of self reflection?
Does it like notice areas of improvement?
Like if it's like, yeah, like if like let's say that I'm like, I don't know.
Let's say that I want to I'm like, OK, I'm going to sing.
And like, I don't know. I don't have a good analogy for it, to be honest.
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But I get what you're getting at. Like you.
So this is what the assumption you have a solid you have a solid foundation to start
and you just want to like how can you find ways to improve it?
No, I'm saying like what if you don't have a solid? Oh, if you don't have.
Let's say that you're in a room with like important people.
You're like, dang, like, you know, I want to stay.
But then you don't even realize like, dang, my foundation is not it.
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I got you. This is just this is just like simple stuff. Right.
So first and foremost, and I'm able to at least say a little bit of it because, you know, getting to where I am now,
I've had to do that. And it's an ongoing thing.
It's an ongoing thing. So first and foremost, you have to have a true desire in your heart
and mind to want to better that whatever your foundation is to better yourself, to better your foundation.
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And you have to understand what that could possibly mean.
That could possibly mean what you've been doing.
And it may have worked up to this point, but it's not sustainable.
It's shaking and shaky. Right. It was probably good enough to get you to where you are now.
But now you've reached the checkpoints. Something's got to change. Yeah.
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You need to reinforce it or switch it out with something else.
Get you some better material or something. And there's that.
You also have to have a mindset. You got to know how to put your you got to.
It's kind of really a humble mindset.
You have to put your pride aside always and understand that you easily without you realizing it can be the problem.
It probably have been the problem at some point.
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So it's kind of counter to our nature.
When we tell our stories, we always tell it from a protagonist point of view and not from, yeah, we kind of this is what we did to contribute to whatever bad it could have been.
So it starts with just having that true desire to want to know that because that means you got to look at the good and bad of everything of yourself.
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Yeah, you have to be able to acknowledge that and want to change it.
Yeah, change it. And then from there, it's just ongoing.
Just discovering ways. I do a lot of reflective writing and journaling just to kind of flesh out whatever is going through my head and was going through my heart.
And then not only do I write it, I need to do this more.
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What about the say, but read it over time. Just read it a little bit.
Go back in time and read it. See how far you've come or just kind of read what you just kind of person you were.
Yes, you kind of person you were see what kind of person you are.
Right. And sometimes that's actually that's really good because sometimes you're like, oh, like I'm kind of talking about the same thing here again.
So it's just like, oh, you need to grow in that area. Yeah, like that ain't change.
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Right. Why am I still why am I still making the same mistakes?
Why was those kind of things?
And it's just me, my belief in Christ. I mean, you're trying to have our foundation in him. So like I said, just lining lining up myself up with him.
That's like literally the highest standard you can find. So do your best to line up with him.
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And then practical stuff is just knowing that you're this is this one sucks because this requires putting your pride down and just kind of admitting weakness.
Understanding that you ain't got all the answers. You don't have all the experience.
Maybe who you're running got all the answers or the experience. There's some things you can learn from other people's mistakes.
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You can learn a lot from other people's mistakes. But then there's some things you just got to go and get your hands dirty.
Yeah. And so you got to always have them. I've learned is very important to have a mindset of I I can be wrong.
And probably more often women just logged off and we're gone.
Whatever you should just write is where escape.
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Like I can be wrong. And because I don't want to be wrong and I want to be good, it could cause me to overlook moments where I am wrong because my intentions are try to be good.
So it's a lot of looking inward is what I'm saying, because that foundation that starts with yourself, your mindset and your goals and beliefs.
And you have you have to check yourself. And then if you have some great people around you, ask them.
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I was like, they will check you. They'll check you. And then even ask them.
Like I said, I asked Mo and I asked Ryan. What do you honestly think?
You know, and I make jokes about this, but I'm serious when I say I'm looking and I'm speaking from a creative artistic creative perspective.
I'm looking for someone to say I'm trash. I want to hear that. I'm craving that with the assumption they're going to say is not good.
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And here's why. Yeah. Like don't just say, oh, this is bad. But like tell me it's trash.
Is that my phone? Yeah, that's my phone.
I hope that I didn't cancel the recording. You want to go check? Yeah, I want to go check.
You said is that my phone? I'm like, what is he hearing? It stopped. It's like so hot.
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No, we're still good. OK, cool. It would suck if we weren't.
My fault, my fault, my fault. Good.
Technical stuff. But yeah, that's you know, if you have a good, if you have a good circle of people, then you can ask them.
And then they'll be real with you if they really love you. They're going to give you that constructive criticism.
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You know, again, it does go back to who you go to.
And then also when when you experience rejection, I feel that again, it is an inward reflection.
But just asking yourself like, OK, first of all, who is this person?
Like, who are they to me? And then. Yeah.
And then after that, it's like, OK, who are they to me and what are their intentions?
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Because it's like once you answer those questions, like if it's some rando, you know, who doesn't know you at all?
And just came up to you and said something rude and were like, oh, like, you know, if they were like, oh, I think your music trash is like, I don't even know who you are.
Like some troll on the Internet. Yeah. Right. People be getting mightily, mightily bold on that.
You got to know what to pay attention to. Yeah. I speak with that and with that assumptions, you know, trying to like you got to know what to pay attention to.
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Yeah. But but yeah. And also just another thing.
Oh, I notice it's pointing downward. Is it? Oh, what the freak? My fault. What the freak?
My fault. Telekinesis, you dig?
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Yeah. Actually got a question for you about the Sean.
I want you to finish what you're saying. So what I was going to say is also like rejection, as you said, it's not the end of the world.
Maybe like because what I was when I share my story of rejection, I was searching for a good thing and for the right thing.
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But maybe that version that I came across wasn't the one that's meant for me. Or maybe it'll come back in a better form.
So, you know, a closed door is not always bad. I don't look at it as a bad thing.
If I mean, if God has it for you, then that door is going to be open. Right. It was for you. It's for you.
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Maybe it's for you. You just kind of have to go do a little bit more living and then come back. And now you a little bit more ready to experience what's on the other side of that door.
But you were you were going to ask Ricky. Are you finished? Oh, yeah. OK. OK. OK.
Some that early that most talk about with the rejection when you were talking, this question popped into my head like, do you perceive fear of failure as a type of rejection?
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Is this a question to the floor or just a no, this is to to like to the floor to the floor.
So do you say, senior, do you know? So is do do we fear?
Do you think failure? Yeah.
Or just that fear of rejection, fear of failure, just that kind of blend type of thing or or fear of failure or form of rejection?
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Yeah. I'm trying to better understand the question. It's not going to answer it better.
Let me see. I don't know how I can phrase it like if somebody fears failure, would you associate that with as rejection or like or?
Well, here's just what's coming off the top. Like if you fear failure, I mean, you're kind of if you truly feel fear failure, you're not going to put yourself in position to get rejected because you kind of fear that rejection.
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So then is rejection really a fear of failure? It could be a fear of.
Oh, my Lord. I was like, well, if you fear being rejected, it could possibly be depending on what it is, case by case basis.
It could it could possibly. Or do you or do you guys see it as rejecting yourself?
Wow. Now we got to get into it. Yeah, because that's how I was seeing is, OK, let's say I'm being fearful of failure, right?
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So am I rejecting myself from being rejected? Like you're kind of. Yeah.
OK, and that aspect. But then the my original and then I can go back to my original questions like is that a form or an aspect of rejection in your opinion?
No, I would say I would say no, because I feel like the fear of failure is different from the fear of rejection because I feel like feeling fear of failure is more of like fear of failure.
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Fear of failure is more that I can do it and it's more of a self reflection.
But then fear of rejection is more of like other people. So I wouldn't associate like I can see how you like it could be associated.
But yeah, but when it comes to the fear of rejection, that's more of like, oh, I'm scared that people aren't going to accept me.
But when the fear of failure, it's like I'm scared that I actually can't do it. OK. Yeah. OK. Yeah.
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But there are different levels to it. Like there's a fear of rejection.
You know, there's the fear, like the rejection of others, the rejection of self, man, rejection of self.
Yeah, because that's what I was thinking. I was like, OK, so then am I allowing am I rejecting myself then by not trying?
Yeah, I don't think you're rejecting yourself by not trying by not trying by being fear. It's quite possible. Yeah.
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You're rejecting yourself because like this, if you if I spoke on it on season one about the window of opportunity that I believe in, right?
Mm hmm. Pretty much.
And I can't remember which episode we did it on, but it was pretty much about like how I believe I had a window of time to make a choice to want to decide to do music.
And after a while, that window of time would have closed and I would have missed that spark that was there.
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So all I have to say if you that or you if you have the desire to want to do something, maybe you don't have much belief, but just something tugging at you and assuming this is all a good thing and all that kind of stuff.
But you hold yourself back and it sits. You kind of are rejecting yourself because you're not allowing yourself.
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You're stopping. What is rejecting? I'm stopping you from having. Yeah.
So if you are if you believe that or if you desire to do something for whatever reason, you psych yourself out.
You just you for that moment, at least you kind of rejected whatever opportunity. Right.
What was there? You know what I mean? So that at least that's how I perceive. That's how I think about it.
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Like you, you my my mindset is like, I don't want years to go by and I'm in the latter half of my life and I look back at moments when I'm young and like, dang, I didn't try even though even the ideas that, you know, you had.
Yeah. It's like I want to at least try it because it's a certain even if you try and it was just a straight dumpster fire.
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You can rest your head at night knowing I tried. I tried. Yeah. Yeah. I already did that straight. Yeah.
Garbo. It didn't pan out, you know, but I'm thinking more of along the lines like rejection being like, I don't accept you like someone saying I don't accept you.
Yeah. Or just like almost like you don't say to yourself. Yeah, both. So what does not accept yourself look like? Right.
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Drops the mic. I was like, don't come for me. Just kidding. So what is not accepting yourself look like? Well, I guess it would.
Rejecting yourself. Yeah. Rejecting yourself. Like what is not accepting yourself? Like what's an example of that?
It didn't any got to be created could be something. Okay. It's something simple. Okay. So I feel like a lot of women deal with self image. So, you know, for example, like a lot of women don't think that they're beautiful.
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And so when somebody comes to compliment them, they're like, oh, like you're beautiful. Like they'll just be like, no, I'm not. Or they'll be like, please don't say that to me. Question.
Question. Tell me how you feel about this guy. So, you know, it's going to sound like a guy asking this. But you said something.
He's like a lot of women don't feel like they're beautiful. Is that is that a reason why many were makeup or look don't come for me. No, that's not. That's not the reason why.
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So yes and no. Because like it just depends. It's again, it's a case by case. Yeah. Yeah. Some people really get into makeup and they're just they love it. Not because it's a trend, but because they're like artists.
It's an art. But then there are other women where they do because society the way that the society, the Western world really the culture, the Western world is just very much like, oh, if your face ain't beat you hurt.
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So it's like you either beat or you hurt. Which one? And so all that to say like that some women do like almost, you know, they wear cover up to cover up. So it's like I know.
So yeah, so that is like that probably is a majority of women. But like, will we really admit it or say something like probably? Can I add to that? No, you can minus to that.
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Okay. No, because for in my perspective, this is I don't know if you also have seen this, but I saw as makeup as an enhancement, never just to, you know, go crazy with it.
Like basically you let's say you have some great futures and you want to enhance them. That's how I feel makeup does the job. But are we talking about people who cake up their face or we're talking about people who do simple stuff like simple stuff or simple stuff?
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Yes. Yeah, that's that. That's that's what I mean. Not like kicking up. No, no, no. That's a
fight because that's the first thing that came to my head because I'm like, that's a lot of enhanced. No, no, no. I'm in a simple and simple like terms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you if you also saw makeup as that because that's I've always seen it as that and an art.
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I'll keep it a buck with you. I never thought of it. I mean, I mean, I come from a very, it's a lot of guys where I come from. You know, I got all I have the only lady in the house and even then she's not like a makeup person person that and a bunch of guys.
It's a bunch of uncles. It's just so that's why I asked because I never thought of that. You know, that's crazy because I don't I don't have any siblings. So I'm only child and it's just me and my mom's but like you're saying my mom's my mom's also not like super heavy on the makeup. But you know, she'll do her a little here and there. Small enhancements. And that's how I always saw it. That and in our farm. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how we got over to there. Yeah.
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Rejection makeup. That's your question. Rejection makeup. Whoa, what's happening? Yeah. But oh man, how we doing on time? I think we straight. We straight. I think we straight. We in here. So I guess closing thoughts. Rejection will not kill you. Rejection is a launch pad. It's a lot depending on how you respond to it. A lot of it is how you.
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Yeah, if you true if you're serious about this growth, you're going to get I mean, you're going to get hit with rejection along the way. That's like regardless whether you're going or not. Welcome to the real world. Yeah.
But how you handle that could make you up. Honestly, how you respond to stuff like that could put you ahead of people. It can be. It can put you ahead of the game. But yeah, it's been another episode. You want supporting, liking, sharing. Come on. All right. I was like, make sure that y'all if y'all haven't listened, listen to the singles. Make sure you follow in the music as well. Y'all don't be sleeping.
(46:54):
On Transparent, she has a whole. Don't be sleeping. So I say that like we got the singles coming out, the music videos coming out, y'all the album. There's stuff behind the scenes. All of that stuff is probably going to be out by the time the second season. Come on. And then the merch. Come on.
There's a sweater with a space on it, guys. On the back. I was like, so if you buy the merch, tag us, literally tag us, take a picture. I'm like, buy merch for family because that's what I'm doing. We're going to take family photos. Adam, he'll repost you. Yeah. Surely. I'll hit the links in the bio for everything. Lincoln. Follow mafioso. And last thing last. You know, if your foundation isn't on Jesus.
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In fact, she's. Right. Turn to the Lord. Now is the time. Now is the time. Amen. I love you. I love you. For us to skedaddle. You really hit your anti-mode right there. Auntie. Not Auntie. Auntie. Auntie.
What is that?
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What is what?
Oh, it's just from the headphones.
I think we're recording.
Yep, yeah, we are.
We straight.
How can you tell?
I can't tell.
That's I see it moving.
We're good.
Okay.
Yeah.
Already already press the record button on the camera too.
So are you sure?
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Yeah.
I know he's like, well, because I use logic.
So when it start moving, I'm looking for there's the bar.
Yeah, I was looking for the little detail.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the green neon line, my guy, the green neon line.
Yes, logic is a red thing.
But we back in this thing.
See, senior.
See, senior.
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We got a Latino in here finally.
See, senora.
Not finally.
It's like finally brought on their fair skinned friends about time.
Fair skinned, dang.
Gotta expand our demographic.
But we back.
It's a rehearsal.
It's your boy, De' Sean Force.
Oh my gosh.
It's your girl, Moriana Jack, aka Mo.
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And your surprise audio engineer, Mafioso Beats.
What's up with mafioso?
Or mafi.
Or mafi.
You know what I'm saying?
Or ma.
Ma.
Hey, yo, ma.
But we back, you know, on today's episode.
First off.
Talk about it.
I gotta give my shout outs.
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It's become tradition.
Yeah.
Shout out, Brandon.
Brandon.
Shout out to Brandon.
I brought tea for you.
Tea for you.
I was thinking about him.
Caffeine free.
Shout out, Brandon.
He's doing his thing at the moment.
Shout out, mafi.
Audio.
Audio.
Ma.
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Shout out, Chris.
Editing this joint.
Thank you, Chris.
Shout out to everyone.
What's up, Ryan?
Different guy.
Different guy.
My fault.
But shout out, Ryan.
Shout out, Ryan, Chris.
Shout out, Ryan, Chris.
You know what I'm saying?
He's with us on the music side, and then shout out, Chris, the editor.
The editor.
My fault.
The rehearsing.
My fault.
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It's good.
It's good.
Shout out the whole Transparency squad, bro.
We really got out here making-
I only know one Chris from this group, so that's why I said, Ryan, my fault.
Yeah.
Shout out the editor, Chris.
For those that don't know, Chris had edited all of season one.
All of season one.
Hey, bro.
Editing skills on top, bro.
Yeah, we love him.
For sure.
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But today, we talking about-
We talking about-
Rejection?
Rejection.
Okay.
Okay.
Dang, she really know how to sing, man.
I'll lay with it again.
I was like, dang.
Go ahead, bro.
We love his energy, bro.
We love it.
Most says she's tired, but I don't think she really is tired.
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She really ain't.
She says she's tired.
Hey, man, I wonder how am I going to be when I sit out an episode?
Am I going to come back strong like that?
I'm going to be killing it.
Tired, tired.
He might freestyle to open it up.
Hey, that'd be-
Hey, it'd be unrehearsed.
I rehearsed.
It'd be unrehearsed.
That's all I'm saying.
Put a mafia beat real quick.
That's all I'm saying.
Put a mafia beat.
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Man, throwing some of them boom baps you be cooking up.
Them boom baps.
Boom baps.
Boom baps.
Boom baps.
Or that Neptune beat.
Or that Neptune stuff.
Shout out Pharrell.
I'm going to dive into Pharrell.
Shout out to Pharrell and Chack Hugo because they really- What was it, from late 90s to
early 2000s?
2004 was a lot right there.
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Oh my God.
A lot of them.
It was them.
What's up?
Ricky's the one.
For what?
For that episode about music that you wanted to do.
For history?
We're kind of like, or we're kind of, not nothing official, but we're kind of like game planning
a music episode.
I just thought about it.
I was like-
Because that's one thing we haven't done.
Mo really wants me to do a music episode because I'm an artist.
I really-
Look, not even because he's an artist.
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Not even because he's an artist.
Fun fact.
So unrehearsed, in my mind, I was like, oh, I literally had a whole different idea about
what it was going to be about.
I was like, oh, okay, so I get it.
You're an artist.
I'm like, so we're going to call it unrehearsed.
Then it's like, we're going to invite other artists on and it's just going to be about-
To perform.
Right.
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We're going to talk to them, chop it up, and then at the end they're going to freestyle,
hence unrehearsed.
Then it was just like, man, took a whole different direction.
Praise the Lord for that.
You know what?
I bet you can still do that.
I bet you can still do the same formula right now.
Maybe just a different segment.
Then towards the end, if you have an artist, actually, you know how the Tonight Show's
have that, towards the end of their show they have the artist perform?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, hey.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Ooh.
Yeah.
That's something to keep in, I'll keep that around.
We can definitely do something like that.
Yeah.
Mo wanted this to be a music show.
I was like, we got to create something separate of it.
Separate of the music.
Okay, so when you said music, I thought you meant like history of music, like maybe like
certain time periods.
Is that what you mean?
No, but actually, I'm the master of everything.
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Oh, okay.
Yeah, just chopping it up as long as.
No limits.
Yeah.
But at some point I get on it.
Because if you don't know, Deshawn likes to, you know, when he listens to something, he
likes to study, he likes to break it down.
Like, he don't listen, though.
He study music.
He eats it.
He studies the production of it.
He eats it, he digest it.
Lyrics.
All of it.
I'll listen to a song and then follow it, like follow the lyrics on it.
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I'll have one screen of the song and then another screen of the lyrics.
So I was like, I'll probably, I'll probably listen to a song.
At a particular moment, say I listen to it like two or three times.
Right.
To kind of get the feel of it, to kind of vibe, see how it resonates with me.
And then another one, like, okay, let me follow the lyrics.
I look at, ever since I started doing music, it went from being all just, you know, leisure
listening to, I look at it as like curriculum.
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Right.
So nothing is obvious.
Same.
For me, nothing.
You go through my spot a lot.
You see a little bit of everything.
You see.
You see rap in different eras.
You're seeing different eras of R&B.
You're seeing.
You're seeing Temptations.
You're seeing classical music.
You're seeing Latin music.
I'm talking about mariachi type stuff, bro.
Hold on, hold on.
It's mariachi.
What you know about mariachi?
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It's a little bit, a little bit.
It's something I want to, I made a little note on my board because you don't want to
limit yourself.
So like I made a little note on my board just to like, leave a note to like dive into it,
to just explore.
So I've, like Rodrigo was here.
I was asking him like, yo, send me, just send me some stuff.
Send me some good stuff, bro.
And so I got to, you know, I have some stuff saved and I want to dive in on that and just
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dive in on some catalogs.
But yeah, we'll definitely get on that one day.
The music episode.
Mariachi.
I did not expect that from you.
Bro, no one ever expects anything from me, dude.
Wow.
Like as far as that goes, like music, like I got pop stuff.
He's just a mystery.
I got pop stuff.
Yeah.
And you know, that, just not trying to turn this into a music episode.
Right.
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But just it, it, as a creator, it, it expands your mind and literally enlightens you.
So now I, the stuff I make is different because I've expanded my horizon.
Like, yo, there's different out there.
There's different realms I haven't tapped into yet.
Yeah.
Don't be surprised if you start hearing some country.
Just kidding.
He's like, never that.
There's a couple of country stuff on there too.
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I'm shocked.
But there's a, I got to knock down some mental blocks with country because country doesn't
have a good rep, depending on where you add.
Like majority of people don't like it.
Yeah.
So I got to, but there's a, it's such a different flavor though.
That's a thing.
Yeah.
But there's occasional really good country songs.
Like one person I like is Kane Brown.
Kane Brown.
Kane Brown.
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Yeah.
And he's a black country guy.
He's, he's, he's, he's a, he's a black country artist.
I like Luke Bryan.
Luke Bryan is cool too.
Or what's his name?
Oh, his face.
He was on The Voice.
What's his name?
Blake Shelton.
Blake Shelton.
Yeah, he's cool.
Tim McGraw.
Tim McGraw.
Tim McGraw.
I seen that name everywhere.
Yeah.
So a little bit, a little bit of everything.
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We'll, I'll definitely, yeah, we got to have a whole episode dedicated to that.
But today we talking.
We talk, we talking about.
Not to make it a music episode, but we, we.
We talking about rejection.
Rejection.
Rejection specifically.
Rejection.
We got to get Mo on the track.
We talking about doors being slammed in your face.
We're talking about a whole lot of nose.
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Now this was another.
What's that?
You get.
Oh yeah.
Now this one was another brilliant, amazing idea.
Another one.
Of the mighty mostor herself.
Rejection won't kill you.
But will it make you stronger?
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
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I love it.
I was like what?
Will it make you stronger?
Actually that's up to you whether it makes you stronger or not.
It is all in how you take it.
That's really just life.
I heard something along the lines of me and my paraphrasing because I can't ever remember anything verbatim.
It's okay.
You're not a verbatim or you're a paraphraser.
Pretty much.
Like I get the gist of it and then I keep it going.
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But it's pretty much like 80% of life is how you respond.
Not so much of what actually happens to you.
I would have to argue that.
I feel like response is part of it.
But I also feel the other part is how you're taught to perceive that and receive that.
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It's your upbringing and how you're taught to respond and stuff like that.
Because if you grow up in a home and they make it clear you're going to get a lot of no's in life.
That doesn't mean that reflects your value.
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It doesn't mean that reflects your value.
But a lot of people are going to say no to you.
A lot of people are going to shut the door in your face.
But you just keep on going.
Keep knocking on doors because someone is going to say yes.
Someone is going to see what you see in yourself.
Someone is going to see the potential, the value.
All those things.
If I grew up learning that, I would be older than myself right now.
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That's all that I'm saying.
But no, it would have just shifted the way that I receive rejection.
Because now I'm not even taking it personal.
Okay.
Now I've got a real question, a serious question that just dawned on me.
Because you are a lady on the panel and we were talking about it behind the scenes.
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We were talking in a sense of relationships.
Guys, mainly the ones that chase.
So they are more conditioned to have to deal with rejection.
Girls don't normally do that.
All that to say, do you think that you probably didn't get that kind of teaching because you're a girl?
In a way.
Not like, oh, she didn't get it.
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Not intentionally.
It was subtle.
Think about it.
As a guy coming up, I play football as a kid.
So basketball as a kid and other stuff.
It's normal for, assuming they're in a decent environment and background and stuff like that.
It's normal to get that tough love.
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Like, hey man, not everything is going to go your way.
You can't get everything you want.
As a young boy, young man coming up.
But I got brothers.
The only female in the house is my mom.
So I can't even say I know anything just by witnessing.
That's why I'm asking, do you think that might even just slightly play a part?
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Because people kind of soften up more with the ladies.
That's true.
That is true.
I would say that that played a part.
I've actually never thought about that.
That thought has never crossed my mind.
But that does play a big part because I just feel like in general, girls and women were taught to be princesses.
So I just feel like even the thought of rejection isn't even on our conscience.
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So when it happens, it's almost like a shock because it's like, what is this feeling?
What is going on?
And it's crazy though.
I feel like a lot of people have a harder time coping with things in general when you don't have the right verbiage for it.
Like when you don't have the vocabulary for something that you're experiencing or you went through, you just kind of don't know what to do with it.
And you're just like, dang, I don't know what this is.
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I don't like this feeling.
But then it's like that moment when someone says it, you're like, it clicks and you're like, that's exactly how I've been feeling.
That's what that is.
So that's just a whole side note.
That's just a little bit of wisdom for you people.
But specifically for rejection, yeah.
Like nobody.
Well, see, this is the thing.
This is so sad.
Nobody specifically talked about rejection.
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Like that wasn't a word that was used in our family because usually like when women get rejected in my family for most women, they're like, F that n***a.
I'm just being honest.
It's like, you know, it's just like a lot of just stuff.
And I'm like, OK, so I think it's just like easier to like reject them.
Like, you know, after you get rejected as a woman, it's like, OK, like, reject them back.
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Like, you know, it's just kind of like, you know, reject me.
I reject you.
Like, literally. And so very, very defensive.
Yeah. Yeah.
And so, yeah.
So that's just like other women.
But I was going to say, like, specifically for myself, like I felt rejection as a child because like my dad was like I just had a lot of abandonment issues, a lot of like negligence when it came to my dad.
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So I was feeling rejection like at the young age of five.
But that's a different kind of rejection.
Yeah, it is a different kind of rejection.
I was thinking more so the lines of things just not going your way.
Things didn't go my way.
Wasn't.
Me, I'm like, I would have liked to have been there.
But go ahead and explain.
Can you elaborate more?
I mean, like, let's say here's what I was initially thinking.
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It leans the other way.
So what I was thinking of, like, you know, just, OK, rejection in the sense of you're going, maybe it's a certain opportunity.
Maybe it's just something you really want and you just get the door shut on your face.
Not so much of like, you know, I can't I can't relate to what you was getting at right there.
So that's yeah.
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So that's that's I can somewhat relate.
That's where I was coming from.
It's like because I've I mean, I've had, you know, opportunities come along the way, especially in this entrepreneurial walk.
It's like, OK, this may be real dope.
I'll take advantage of this.
Yada yada yada.
And then you follow up because I always follow up.
And then boom, hard no.
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You know, stuff like that.
You know, or, you know, you know, like, you know, y'all, y'all see, y'all see the show.
People watching people listening, y'all seeing y'all hear the show.
Like, oh, man, I got a great people on there.
Yada yada yada.
I mean, you're not taking account, you know, taking into account the people who have said no to unrehearsed or no to helping me out on the song.
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Right. Even though I already wrote the lyrics or the melody, everything is good.
I just need here's the script.
Follow it.
I'll help you.
You ain't got to do that voice actor.
Basically, I've had many people tell me people who I was just sure this person is going to say yes.
And they say no, I can't imagine the situation.
And they give a hard no, like a firm no straight up.
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Find someone else like, whoa, OK, you know, but that's what I was thinking of.
OK.
Rejection won't kill you.
And that in that sense, like obviously it won't kill you makes you it gives you character toughens you up makes you.
It does.
Honestly, I'd have to say I'm grateful.
Like just going back to like my personal story with my dad, I'd have to say that I'm really grateful because it just helped me.
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And being a middle child, it just helped me to like really just gain a lot of independence and a lot of like, oh, like you can't wait around for people to like save you or for people to help you out.
You learned how to spend your own time.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I just had to learn how to value myself and that like my value doesn't come from like, you know, my dad not being there because like I would associate that with like, oh, I'm not enough.
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Like that was the message that I would start thinking is your fault.
Yeah.
Am I doing right?
Right.
And so but now I'm like, no, I'm like so grateful for that.
So not grateful for it.
But, you know, I can honestly say like the Lord has just changed my understanding of that.
And I'm like, you know what?
Like it was rough.
It was rough upbringing.
But like I'm grateful for that.
But it has and it also has affected male relationships, which is like rough as well.
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But that's like that's neither here nor there.
That's a whole different podcast for that.
That's that's the girls only podcast.
Literally, literally girls only podcast.
But I was going to ask, like, so when it comes to rejection, rejection without talking about failure.
Not necessarily know those two aren't in my experience.
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Those two aren't the same.
They're different aspects.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, OK, so you said you asked that again.
You said, can you talk about rejection without talking about failure?
How so?
Like because I feel that because I reject because I was I was rejected.
I failed or yeah, in that sense, because I feel like a lot of people associate rejection with failure.
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Oh, OK.
Like, oh, maybe it wasn't good enough or something like that, depending on what it is.
OK.
Well, man, see, that's that's tough because see, that's that's hard.
It really you in a situation like that, it really gets it all boils down to how you know, it boils down to a few things.
I'll give a personal story just whatever comes when it comes to it.
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So I was I had met with y'all know I'm an artist.
So I have met with an A&R for a pretty big label.
An A&R for people who don't know A&R stands for Artist and Repertoire.
So there's different jobs and duties for an A&R who worked for a record label.
One of those things is artist development.
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So that's what Ryan Chris does.
He does that for me.
I'm just coaching, sending back a lot of critiques for the mixing of the track, for how I recorded, how my vocals for beats,
just anything that comes to mind, he sends that back.
So that's artist development side of A&R.
And then there's the talent scout side of A&R where you're just you're searching for new talent.
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So that's what this particular A&R was doing at the moment was just searching for new undiscovered talent.
So I had connected with this A&R for a pretty big label.
And I felt I was ready for that next stage.
The music was hitting.
Like I unlocked a new level.
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And the performance, because I got a chance to perform from the performance was great.
He even said, I was really dope.
Like I can tell you got your confidence.
You're packing. You have it packaged well.
You can you can you can just tell like, OK, he got it.
He's good. And he was interested.
So we exchanged contact information.
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And so following up, right, I followed up.
Nothing came from it. Didn't hear back.
Followed up a couple of times.
Maybe he didn't get the first email. I sent him another one.
Hey, just in case you didn't get my email.
Since another follow up, I think maybe I know I followed up at least a second time, but nothing just nothing came from it.
And at first I was like, dang, you know, I was like, you know, who knew what could have came from that?
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If he just, you know, read his email and stuff like that, or maybe he did read the email and check some stuff out, you know, listen to some of the stuff.
And he was like, that's just not the artist I'm looking for.
You know what I'm saying? Can't take it personal stuff.
So it's I don't look at that as for my experience. I don't look at like, oh, man, I failed.
I mean, maybe I wouldn't as ready as I thought I was.
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Sometimes it's you.
We don't like that.
Sometimes. Why would you say that?
You're the obstacle yourself.
Sometimes, sometimes you could feel like you're ready and you know what?
Maybe you are close. Maybe you are right there.
Maybe you need another six months to a year. Maybe, you know, but not right now.
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And in hindsight, I was like, I just really, really just started hitting me like this past summer.
And I was like, you know, that effort was a really great effort.
It was a really big leap, a really big jump in artistry.
But I wasn't ready at that moment.
Wasn't quite there. Wow. You know.
And so it you got to swallow some pride to do that.
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You got to swallow some pride to do that.
You know what I'm saying?
Because when you feel like you there, you locked in, you're really emotional.
But you checked yourself. You checked yourself.
Yeah. And you know, sometimes you got to kind of go through the phase,
let a little bit of time pass by and then you'll be able to see it clear.
So all that to say, I don't that doesn't feel like failure in the moment, though.
It could feel like, oh, I'm not good enough.
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Maybe I'm failing. Is this worth it?
And you just kind of go through those whole motions of the whole like spiral.
That rejection, if you and it goes to response, how you handle it.
If you handle it right, it launches you forward.
Because I could have been like, man, bro, tripping.
I know I'm dope. I know I'm good. I do all this work.
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You know what I'm saying? We I know what I got.
I know what I can bring to the table. I know I'm the best.
Right. I know I got it. Right.
He's playing number one. He don't know what he doing.
I'm the new Mr. Worldwide. Right.
And then and then next to, you know, you miss the opportunity to grow.
You know, you got to be careful because you can get locked into a particular mindset.
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You kind of have to check yourself.
That's so good. At first, I was like, I was I was disappointed.
I was down. I ain't gonna lie.
But I always have this keep going, keep kind of mindset.
So I just kind of kept going. And then over time, I kind of started to to realize.
But now I'm giving it another shot. Give it another go.
Because, you know, stuff happening behind the scenes, who knows how I look six months
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from the day of us recording this right now. But dang, that's good.
Yeah, I don't I don't really. You got to handle it right.
Sometimes maybe that rejection is a bit of failure, but you kind of need that failure.
Yeah. Rejection is a launch pad. Right.
Sometimes you need that. It really is. If you handle it right though.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, if matter of fact, if you handle it right, it launches you forward.
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If you handle it wrong and launch it backwards, it's all in your response.
So nowhere. That's how I feel about it.
Like you need that if you're really trying to grow, you need you kind of need to be told.
No, at times you need to be told you're doing great, but you're not there yet.
Not it. You need to do this better or this is you kind of need that.
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You know, you'll understand it later, but you need that.
That's like so good. Honestly, I swear it is.
I feel that rejection has really helped shaped me as a person and just with my character as well,
because I'm the person that asks a lot of questions because I personally don't like to feel personally.
I'm like, it's not right. I don't like failure, but I also would say that I want to give 100 percent
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so that I don't have to like what am I trying to say?
I want to give 100 percent in general, like in everything that I do.
And so I feel like a lot of times like when it comes to rejection, like if if like you don't get that criticism,
like or you obviously like there's a certain way to not so much reject people,
but there's a certain way to talk to people.
There's a certain way to critique. Like talk to me nice.
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And so like but when it comes to rejection specifically, I'm like I realize that me as a person, I'm like, OK,
like I don't want to get rejected.
So let me ask as many questions as I need to. And like let me ask you for constructive criticism
so that it doesn't feel like I don't feel rejection because sometimes because it's different because sometimes
people could just straight up say no. And you're like, what's going on here?
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Like they don't give any answers, any reason.
So you're just lost. And it's just like, dang, like you're just kind of sitting and you have to like go over it
with yourself in your own mind. Yeah.
And you're like, I don't see what I'm doing. Excuse me.
Doing wrong. And so but when people like, you know, they may say no,
but then they give you reason. I'm like, that's all the more reason to like really look into those things and be like,
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OK, like because like you said, it takes like it takes you swallowing your pride and being like, you got to be ready for it.
Like you thought you was like, yes, like I got this.
But you're like, but I did this differently. Like I feel like I already worked on these things.
But it's like you just didn't get it like you just didn't hit the mark. And that's OK.
And you know what? Maybe you actually did work on it. But these things take time. Yeah.
You know, like I asked Ricky, I had asked I had asked Mo and then I had asked Ryan just from an artistic perspective, from my music.
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Give me give me your honest thoughts. Obviously, I know they support, but like give me your honest thoughts.
Like, right. What do you think I need to focus on? I have my own analysis of myself.
But y'all give me your thing. And it was funny.
We all three, all three of us did three separate analysis. Right. All three of us landed on the same thing.
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Wow. That's crazy. Same thing.
And so that constructive criticism is great. You got to have you.
You have to. I have learned I really I crave constructive criticism. Same.
But you got to be mindful at the same time of who you allow critique. Correct.
You got to be mindful because you got to know the person who is going to give it give it right.
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Right. That and you also want to go to people that genuinely know what they're talking about.
What they're talking about. And that also genuinely love you. That too.
And just love and just have respect for what you do. I never forget one of the best pieces of advice.
And it's going to sound so simplistic to you guys. One of the best pieces of advice someone gave to me.
It was someone when I when I toured a little bit, it was the manager Danny Boy.
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Danny Boy, for those that may not know, he did records with Tupac.
I believe he was on death row. I ain't mad at you.
That's the Tupac song. Danny Boy was on there. And so I toured with him. Right.
And his manager, it was my last stop.
There was still other stops of the tour that I had to go on, but I was I was completing my last show.
And everyone they loved me there. They were like, oh, man, we wish you can keep coming.
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You know, keep doing things. And I said, I appreciate it.
But I got to get back. I work to do back home and stuff like that.
And his manager was like, can I give you can I give you some advice and constructive criticism?
I said, I want to hear it all. And he was like, you go to the gym.
I was like, yeah. And he was like, work on cardio. Oh, that might sound like super simplistic.
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You know, to work on cardio. But that's important, bro. But that's super important.
Now, mind you, I've always loved running and I was doing cardio, but I was like, OK, maybe I need to tweak something.
Right. And he was he was like, you know, I say that because when you perform, you perform, you naturally have bring a lot of energy.
But your lungs can't keep up. Now, for people that don't know, and I don't think he knew, I don't think I told him.
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For people that don't know, I'm asthmatic. So I got it extra bad. I need all the air I can get.
So sometimes it's like, you know what I mean? Because it's like I'm I'm high.
So I need a lot of oxygen, oxygen, because I'm energetic. And then plus there's asthma.
And so but that was like, yo, I needed to I needed to hear that.
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And so now I didn't know I tweak my my workouts and stuff like that.
And so now when I perform, it's not as much huffing and puffing as was there before.
Little things like that is the AVO small thing leads to be things, bro.
Small things, small changes lead to big results.
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Well, big results. I started to tell my treasure the time, brother, like, suffer, you see on a big step, bro.
Do the small things, because once you have a.
Shimbara, you can go to bigger things.
And that foundation is important. Glad that you say that.
Because I've seen examples of people with people are in situations with great foundations.
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And I've seen people in situations with not great foundations.
The thing is, whatever you lay in your foundation, you're just going to keep building on that.
Yeah, you have your second nation. Yeah.
So if your foundation is going to win, the wind comes in, the storm comes.
Your house is going to be shattered in pieces.
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Full country, Alabama, Alabama, straight Bible Belt.
So what are you founded on?
But that's that's fact. If you're if your foundation and if all aspects of your foundation
ain't what it's supposed to be, you're going to keep building on that.
Next, you know, and the things that you're supposed to that's supposed to be more advanced stuff.
Right. It's going to be rocky. Come on. And sometimes.
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Oh, come on. Your biggest moments of rejection is because your foundation is shaking.
Exactly. Your foundation. Exactly.
Yeah, stable. And sometimes the like scary part is that sometimes you just don't even know that.
So I guess the next question would be, how do you like let's say that my foundation is stable right now.
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It's like how like what steps can I take or what can I do to begin to notice?
Like does it like does it just come with a lot of self reflection?
Does it like notice areas of improvement?
Like if it's like, yeah, like if like let's say that I'm like, I don't know.
Let's say that I want to I'm like, OK, I'm going to sing.
And like, I don't know. I don't have a good analogy for it, to be honest.
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But I get what you're getting at. Like you.
So this is what the assumption you have a solid you have a solid foundation to start
and you just want to like how can you find ways to improve it?
No, I'm saying like what if you don't have a solid? Oh, if you don't have.
Let's say that you're in a room with like important people.
You're like, dang, like, you know, I want to stay.
But then you don't even realize like, dang, my foundation is not it.
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I got you. This is just this is just like simple stuff. Right.
So first and foremost, and I'm able to at least say a little bit of it because, you know, getting to where I am now,
I've had to do that. And it's an ongoing thing.
It's an ongoing thing. So first and foremost, you have to have a true desire in your heart
and mind to want to better that whatever your foundation is to better yourself, to better your foundation.
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And you have to understand what that could possibly mean.
That could possibly mean what you've been doing.
And it may have worked up to this point, but it's not sustainable.
It's shaking and shaky. Right. It was probably good enough to get you to where you are now.
But now you've reached the checkpoints. Something's got to change. Yeah.
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You need to reinforce it or switch it out with something else.
Get you some better material or something. And there's that.
You also have to have a mindset. You got to know how to put your you got to.
It's kind of really a humble mindset.
You have to put your pride aside always and understand that you easily without you realizing it can be the problem.
It probably have been the problem at some point.
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So it's kind of counter to our nature.
When we tell our stories, we always tell it from a protagonist point of view and not from, yeah, we kind of this is what we did to contribute to whatever bad it could have been.
So it starts with just having that true desire to want to know that because that means you got to look at the good and bad of everything of yourself.
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Yeah, you have to be able to acknowledge that and want to change it.
Yeah, change it. And then from there, it's just ongoing.
Just discovering ways. I do a lot of reflective writing and journaling just to kind of flesh out whatever is going through my head and was going through my heart.
And then not only do I write it, I need to do this more.
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What about the say, but read it over time. Just read it a little bit.
Go back in time and read it. See how far you've come or just kind of read what you just kind of person you were.
Yes, you kind of person you were see what kind of person you are.
Right. And sometimes that's actually that's really good because sometimes you're like, oh, like I'm kind of talking about the same thing here again.
So it's just like, oh, you need to grow in that area. Yeah, like that ain't change.
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Right. Why am I still why am I still making the same mistakes?
Why was those kind of things?
And it's just me, my belief in Christ. I mean, you're trying to have our foundation in him. So like I said, just lining lining up myself up with him.
That's like literally the highest standard you can find. So do your best to line up with him.
(33:08):
And then practical stuff is just knowing that you're this is this one sucks because this requires putting your pride down and just kind of admitting weakness.
Understanding that you ain't got all the answers. You don't have all the experience.
Maybe who you're running got all the answers or the experience. There's some things you can learn from other people's mistakes.
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You can learn a lot from other people's mistakes. But then there's some things you just got to go and get your hands dirty.
Yeah. And so you got to always have them. I've learned is very important to have a mindset of I I can be wrong.
And probably more often women just logged off and we're gone.
Whatever you should just write is where escape.
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Like I can be wrong. And because I don't want to be wrong and I want to be good, it could cause me to overlook moments where I am wrong because my intentions are try to be good.
So it's a lot of looking inward is what I'm saying, because that foundation that starts with yourself, your mindset and your goals and beliefs.
And you have you have to check yourself. And then if you have some great people around you, ask them.
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I was like, they will check you. They'll check you. And then even ask them.
Like I said, I asked Mo and I asked Ryan. What do you honestly think?
You know, and I make jokes about this, but I'm serious when I say I'm looking and I'm speaking from a creative artistic creative perspective.
I'm looking for someone to say I'm trash. I want to hear that. I'm craving that with the assumption they're going to say is not good.
(34:44):
And here's why. Yeah. Like don't just say, oh, this is bad. But like tell me it's trash.
Is that my phone? Yeah, that's my phone.
I hope that I didn't cancel the recording. You want to go check? Yeah, I want to go check.
You said is that my phone? I'm like, what is he hearing? It stopped. It's like so hot.
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No, we're still good. OK, cool. It would suck if we weren't.
My fault, my fault, my fault. Good.
Technical stuff. But yeah, that's you know, if you have a good, if you have a good circle of people, then you can ask them.
And then they'll be real with you if they really love you. They're going to give you that constructive criticism.
(35:30):
You know, again, it does go back to who you go to.
And then also when when you experience rejection, I feel that again, it is an inward reflection.
But just asking yourself like, OK, first of all, who is this person?
Like, who are they to me? And then. Yeah.
And then after that, it's like, OK, who are they to me and what are their intentions?
(35:51):
Because it's like once you answer those questions, like if it's some rando, you know, who doesn't know you at all?
And just came up to you and said something rude and were like, oh, like, you know, if they were like, oh, I think your music trash is like, I don't even know who you are.
Like some troll on the Internet. Yeah. Right. People be getting mightily, mightily bold on that.
You got to know what to pay attention to. Yeah. I speak with that and with that assumptions, you know, trying to like you got to know what to pay attention to.
(36:19):
Yeah. But but yeah. And also just another thing.
Oh, I notice it's pointing downward. Is it? Oh, what the freak? My fault. What the freak?
My fault. Telekinesis, you dig?
(36:43):
Yeah. Actually got a question for you about the Sean.
I want you to finish what you're saying. So what I was going to say is also like rejection, as you said, it's not the end of the world.
Maybe like because what I was when I share my story of rejection, I was searching for a good thing and for the right thing.
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But maybe that version that I came across wasn't the one that's meant for me. Or maybe it'll come back in a better form.
So, you know, a closed door is not always bad. I don't look at it as a bad thing.
If I mean, if God has it for you, then that door is going to be open. Right. It was for you. It's for you.
(37:27):
Maybe it's for you. You just kind of have to go do a little bit more living and then come back. And now you a little bit more ready to experience what's on the other side of that door.
But you were you were going to ask Ricky. Are you finished? Oh, yeah. OK. OK. OK.
Some that early that most talk about with the rejection when you were talking, this question popped into my head like, do you perceive fear of failure as a type of rejection?
(38:01):
Is this a question to the floor or just a no, this is to to like to the floor to the floor.
So do you say, senior, do you know? So is do do we fear?
Do you think failure? Yeah.
Or just that fear of rejection, fear of failure, just that kind of blend type of thing or or fear of failure or form of rejection?
(38:24):
Yeah. I'm trying to better understand the question. It's not going to answer it better.
Let me see. I don't know how I can phrase it like if somebody fears failure, would you associate that with as rejection or like or?
Well, here's just what's coming off the top. Like if you fear failure, I mean, you're kind of if you truly feel fear failure, you're not going to put yourself in position to get rejected because you kind of fear that rejection.
(38:50):
So then is rejection really a fear of failure? It could be a fear of.
Oh, my Lord. I was like, well, if you fear being rejected, it could possibly be depending on what it is, case by case basis.
It could it could possibly. Or do you or do you guys see it as rejecting yourself?
Wow. Now we got to get into it. Yeah, because that's how I was seeing is, OK, let's say I'm being fearful of failure, right?
(39:18):
So am I rejecting myself from being rejected? Like you're kind of. Yeah.
OK, and that aspect. But then the my original and then I can go back to my original questions like is that a form or an aspect of rejection in your opinion?
No, I would say I would say no, because I feel like the fear of failure is different from the fear of rejection because I feel like feeling fear of failure is more of like fear of failure.
(39:42):
Fear of failure is more that I can do it and it's more of a self reflection.
But then fear of rejection is more of like other people. So I wouldn't associate like I can see how you like it could be associated.
But yeah, but when it comes to the fear of rejection, that's more of like, oh, I'm scared that people aren't going to accept me.
But when the fear of failure, it's like I'm scared that I actually can't do it. OK. Yeah. OK. Yeah.
(40:07):
But there are different levels to it. Like there's a fear of rejection.
You know, there's the fear, like the rejection of others, the rejection of self, man, rejection of self.
Yeah, because that's what I was thinking. I was like, OK, so then am I allowing am I rejecting myself then by not trying?
Yeah, I don't think you're rejecting yourself by not trying by not trying by being fear. It's quite possible. Yeah.
(40:31):
You're rejecting yourself because like this, if you if I spoke on it on season one about the window of opportunity that I believe in, right?
Mm hmm. Pretty much.
And I can't remember which episode we did it on, but it was pretty much about like how I believe I had a window of time to make a choice to want to decide to do music.
And after a while, that window of time would have closed and I would have missed that spark that was there.
(40:56):
So all I have to say if you that or you if you have the desire to want to do something, maybe you don't have much belief, but just something tugging at you and assuming this is all a good thing and all that kind of stuff.
But you hold yourself back and it sits. You kind of are rejecting yourself because you're not allowing yourself.
(41:18):
You're stopping. What is rejecting? I'm stopping you from having. Yeah.
So if you are if you believe that or if you desire to do something for whatever reason, you psych yourself out.
You just you for that moment, at least you kind of rejected whatever opportunity. Right.
What was there? You know what I mean? So that at least that's how I perceive. That's how I think about it.
(41:39):
Like you, you my my mindset is like, I don't want years to go by and I'm in the latter half of my life and I look back at moments when I'm young and like, dang, I didn't try even though even the ideas that, you know, you had.
Yeah. It's like I want to at least try it because it's a certain even if you try and it was just a straight dumpster fire.
(42:06):
You can rest your head at night knowing I tried. I tried. Yeah. Yeah. I already did that straight. Yeah.
Garbo. It didn't pan out, you know, but I'm thinking more of along the lines like rejection being like, I don't accept you like someone saying I don't accept you.
Yeah. Or just like almost like you don't say to yourself. Yeah, both. So what does not accept yourself look like? Right.
(42:29):
Drops the mic. I was like, don't come for me. Just kidding. So what is not accepting yourself look like? Well, I guess it would.
Rejecting yourself. Yeah. Rejecting yourself. Like what is not accepting yourself? Like what's an example of that?
It didn't any got to be created could be something. Okay. It's something simple. Okay. So I feel like a lot of women deal with self image. So, you know, for example, like a lot of women don't think that they're beautiful.
(42:52):
And so when somebody comes to compliment them, they're like, oh, like you're beautiful. Like they'll just be like, no, I'm not. Or they'll be like, please don't say that to me. Question.
Question. Tell me how you feel about this guy. So, you know, it's going to sound like a guy asking this. But you said something.
He's like a lot of women don't feel like they're beautiful. Is that is that a reason why many were makeup or look don't come for me. No, that's not. That's not the reason why.
(43:18):
So yes and no. Because like it just depends. It's again, it's a case by case. Yeah. Yeah. Some people really get into makeup and they're just they love it. Not because it's a trend, but because they're like artists.
It's an art. But then there are other women where they do because society the way that the society, the Western world really the culture, the Western world is just very much like, oh, if your face ain't beat you hurt.
(43:40):
So it's like you either beat or you hurt. Which one? And so all that to say like that some women do like almost, you know, they wear cover up to cover up. So it's like I know.
So yeah, so that is like that probably is a majority of women. But like, will we really admit it or say something like probably? Can I add to that? No, you can minus to that.
(44:02):
Okay. No, because for in my perspective, this is I don't know if you also have seen this, but I saw as makeup as an enhancement, never just to, you know, go crazy with it.
Like basically you let's say you have some great futures and you want to enhance them. That's how I feel makeup does the job. But are we talking about people who cake up their face or we're talking about people who do simple stuff like simple stuff or simple stuff?
(44:34):
Yes. Yeah, that's that. That's that's what I mean. Not like kicking up. No, no, no. That's a
fight because that's the first thing that came to my head because I'm like, that's a lot of enhanced. No, no, no. I'm in a simple and simple like terms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you if you also saw makeup as that because that's I've always seen it as that and an art.
(44:57):
I'll keep it a buck with you. I never thought of it. I mean, I mean, I come from a very, it's a lot of guys where I come from. You know, I got all I have the only lady in the house and even then she's not like a makeup person person that and a bunch of guys.
It's a bunch of uncles. It's just so that's why I asked because I never thought of that. You know, that's crazy because I don't I don't have any siblings. So I'm only child and it's just me and my mom's but like you're saying my mom's my mom's also not like super heavy on the makeup. But you know, she'll do her a little here and there. Small enhancements. And that's how I always saw it. That and in our farm. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how we got over to there. Yeah.
(45:44):
Rejection makeup. That's your question. Rejection makeup. Whoa, what's happening? Yeah. But oh man, how we doing on time? I think we straight. We straight. I think we straight. We in here. So I guess closing thoughts. Rejection will not kill you. Rejection is a launch pad. It's a lot depending on how you respond to it. A lot of it is how you.
(46:15):
Yeah, if you true if you're serious about this growth, you're going to get I mean, you're going to get hit with rejection along the way. That's like regardless whether you're going or not. Welcome to the real world. Yeah.
But how you handle that could make you up. Honestly, how you respond to stuff like that could put you ahead of people. It can be. It can put you ahead of the game. But yeah, it's been another episode. You want supporting, liking, sharing. Come on. All right. I was like, make sure that y'all if y'all haven't listened, listen to the singles. Make sure you follow in the music as well. Y'all don't be sleeping.
(46:54):
On Transparent, she has a whole. Don't be sleeping. So I say that like we got the singles coming out, the music videos coming out, y'all the album. There's stuff behind the scenes. All of that stuff is probably going to be out by the time the second season. Come on. And then the merch. Come on.
There's a sweater with a space on it, guys. On the back. I was like, so if you buy the merch, tag us, literally tag us, take a picture. I'm like, buy merch for family because that's what I'm doing. We're going to take family photos. Adam, he'll repost you. Yeah. Surely. I'll hit the links in the bio for everything. Lincoln. Follow mafioso. And last thing last. You know, if your foundation isn't on Jesus.
(47:36):
In fact, she's. Right. Turn to the Lord. Now is the time. Now is the time. Amen. I love you. I love you. For us to skedaddle. You really hit your anti-mode right there. Auntie. Not Auntie. Auntie. Auntie.
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