Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out. Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades. Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine. Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior. And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in! Follow us on Instagram @unrelatingpocast and be sure to download us on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts! And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com

Episodes

December 5, 2025 2 mins

After the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's episode 37 with Scott, Michelle takes a deep dive into gaining insight and personal growth after a breakup to set yourself up better for your next relationship.

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Kel and Michelle sit down with Scott to help him unpack his recent breakup from a long term relationship, discuss what went wrong, and how to pick up the pieces and move forward with his life.

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To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 35, Michelle was sparked by Melissa and Arran's episode to explore the difficulties some people have with accepting love from their partners.

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November 19, 2025 74 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with married couple Arran and Melissa for an entertaining and thought-provoking conversation about dating, emotional baggage, communication, and how shame can affect your relationships. Melissa Petro is the author of Shame On You: How To Be A Woman In The Age of Mortification.

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November 5, 2025 27 mins

Kel and Michelle answer your questions! What's our take on the "If He Wanted, He Would" social media fad and should someone be worried about their spouses "secret single behavior".

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To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 34, Michelle expands on our discussion with Laura by talking more about how people pleasing can affect relationships and how to understand and balance needs.

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October 22, 2025 65 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with holistic health coach Laura Folkes to discuss what "people pleasing" looks like, where it comes from, and the ways that it affects our relationships with our friends, family, and food.

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To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 33, Michelle talks about the importance of properly grieving your losses and how you can root out judgment or avoidance. 

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October 8, 2025 64 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with Kirsten Karchmer, author, tech pioneer and CEO of Conceivable Inc, to discuss the reasons couples may have fertility problems, what doctors miss about the emotional side of conceiving, and how fertility problems can both strain and strengthen relationships.

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To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 32 with Julia, this deep dive with Michelle explores the reasons we don't put ourselves out there and a way to challenge those fears.

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September 24, 2025 71 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with Julia for a thoughtful and inspiring discussion on the loneliness epidemic in America, her struggles with maintaining friendships and the solutions she discovered, and how to develop and nurture friendships as you get older. 

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To recap the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 31 with guest Iuri Melo, Michelle dives deeper into the Stages of Change Model to help us reflect on our readiness to change.

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September 10, 2025 63 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with Iuri Melo, founder of a text-based wellness platform called Schoolpulse, to discuss how to address students’ mental health struggles and provide positive momentum for them to thrive.

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In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 30 deep dive with Rob, Michelle continues to explore the theme of connection and the need to tap into our sense of caring about each other, even if we can't relate.

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August 27, 2025 61 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with Rob, Founder of The Sad Dads Club, for a heartfelt conversation about overcoming grief, the power of male friendships and navigating life after the loss of a child.

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In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive on Dr. Elliot Justin, Michelle advocates for injecting some light-heartedness into your long-term relationship sexual chemistry.

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August 13, 2025 43 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down with Dr Elliot Justin, CEO and founder of Firmtech, the first sex tech company dedicated to improving men’s erectile fitness. They discuss the advantages of sex wearables and ways couples can have a healthy and vibrant sexual relationship.

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In this deep dive for Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's Episode 28 conversation with Greyson, Michelle reflects on our expectations when it comes to our mental health challenges and talks about the pitfalls of expecting a cure.

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July 30, 2025 67 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down with Greyson, a writer and digital nomad, to discuss the unique challenges of traveling the world solo, how he deals with loneliness and his mental health struggles, and the benefits of having pet companionship.

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July 16, 2025 53 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down for an enlightening conversation with retired teacher and principal Joan to discuss the complex relationships between schools, students and parents, how to nurture a love of learning with students, and the challenges that teachers face every day.

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