Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out. Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades. Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine. Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior. And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in! Follow us on Instagram @unrelatingpocast and be sure to download us on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts! And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com

Episodes

August 15, 2025 2 mins

In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive on Dr. Elliot Justin, Michelle advocates for injecting some light-heartedness into your long-term relationship sexual chemistry.

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Kel & Michelle sit down with Dr Elliot Justin, CEO and founder of Firmtech, the first sex tech company dedicated to improving men’s erectile fitness. They discuss the advantages of sex wearables and ways couples can have a healthy and vibrant sexual relationship.

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In this deep dive for Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's Episode 28 conversation with Greyson, Michelle reflects on our expectations when it comes to our mental health challenges and talks about the pitfalls of expecting a cure.

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July 30, 2025 67 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down with Greyson, a writer and digital nomad, to discuss the unique challenges of traveling the world solo, how he deals with loneliness and his mental health struggles, and the benefits of having pet companionship.

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July 16, 2025 53 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down for an enlightening conversation with retired teacher and principal Joan to discuss the complex relationships between schools, students and parents, how to nurture a love of learning with students, and the challenges that teachers face every day.

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July 2, 2025 31 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down and answer listener email questions. 

How do you get your partner to stop doing annoying things?
What does it mean to be in a happy relationship?

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To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 25, Michelle talks about the challenges of staying motivated and what might help.

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Kel and Michelle sit down with Dr. Christian Middelthon, a health coach and chiropractor, to talk about our unhealthy relationship with food, managing negative body image, embracing discomfort, and how to kick our food addictions.

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To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 124, Michelle talks about the theme of Imposter Syndrome from Arran's episode.

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June 4, 2025 62 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with Arran to talk about the emotional and relational toll that he experienced after losing his job, and the impact on his identity.

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To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 23 with Justin, Michelle talks about how we do or don't hold ourselves accountable when we're working towards a goal.

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May 21, 2025 57 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down with Justin Roth, a certified professional trainer and corrective exercise specialist, for an in depth discussion on his personal journey, taking care of your physical and emotional well-being, and finding your purpose in life.

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To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 22, Michelle confirms that our minds mess with us and emphasizes the need for awareness about your distorted thinking.

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May 7, 2025 54 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down with Denisse for a thoughtful discussion about her cognitive distortions, what these common thought patterns are, and practical strategies for learning how to cope.

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To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 21, Michelle talks about the benefit of “talking it out”.

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April 23, 2025 49 mins

Kel & Michelle sit down for an eye-opening conversation with Bill Buhl, a retired Michigan lawyer, prosecutor, district and circuit court judge. 

Bill pulls back the curtain on the justice system, discussing common themes among divorce, restraining order and domestic violence cases, and why mediation can be such a powerful tool for couples.

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April 9, 2025 50 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with personal development coach, relationship strategist and author Nick Brancato to discuss his new book, what real life events inspired him to write it, and how couples can use his practical, measurable strategies for realigning their priorities and strengthening their connection.

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To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 19, Michelle draws inspiration from Jonathan's athletic mindset to explore when a hard feeling might be helpful.

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March 26, 2025 65 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down with tennis pro Jonathan to discuss the challenges and expectations associated with his career and the impact shame and self-judgement have had on him. 

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March 5, 2025 27 mins

Kel and Michelle sit down and answer listener email questions. 
How  do you reacclimate to a new partner in your life?
What to do when a partner puts others ahead of you?
How do you build back trust after an infidelity?

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