January 26, 2025 • 27 mins
Join us for this week's episode of Unsexy Church, with Pastor Champ and Pastor Dude, as they discuss the 9th commandment. What does it mean to bear false witness? Does this only mean in court or are there other things we ought to consider as we look to obey this command? They tackle the modern-day implications of bearing false witness, likening it to slander and exploring how these acts impact society at large. We can't wait for you to listen!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
hey, everybody, welcome back to the podcast.
We have been talking aboutdinosaurs and celebrity culture,
and pastor bob loves celebrityculture.
Let me just tell all about ithe knows all about the blake
lively.
What other person's drama?
Is today, timothy chalamet andall the movies he's in now, yeah
, which we should just say Icannot get the last three
minutes of my life back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's what we're going to say.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're going to ruin another minute because I don't
know anything about celebrityculture but I do know Timothee
Chalamet is in like 20 movies itfeels like he's like in every
movie he's doing good.
Okay, well, that makes me soundlike I know much about
celebrity culture.
I do not know anything.
You culture I do not knowanything.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You were giving us the latest scoop not too long
ago.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I was sharing with what I heard, which might have
been wrong apparently, about thewhole issue between two
different celebrities right now.
Well, hey, we're glad you'reback on the podcast Anything to
get off that topic.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Please help us get off this topic.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We're also talking about dinosaurs.
It's relevant.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Dragons are in the Bible right Leviathan leviathan,
behemoth, behemoth, yeah surealso all sorts of creatures in
revelation those creatures.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You're just catching up our uh, our audience here on
what we've been discussing thelast few minutes, so they know
why we're saying these thingswelcome to the backroom
conversations of the podcast.
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah Well, a new year's begun, and it is a new
year we're three weeks into thenew year.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
What are you talking about?
New year?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's how I'm just starting the sentence, and it is
really cold.
Seven inches of snow inPensacola, florida.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That was cool what.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Snow on the beaches of.
Florida.
Yeah, what Snow on the beachesof Florida.
On the beach yeah what?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Claudia sent me a video of her dog running around
in the snow.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Aw, I saw videos of.
My wife sent me a reel of dogs,like a compilation of dog
videos where they're opening thedoor for the dog to go outside.
There's all these differentdogs, different homes, different
videos, and the door would beopen.
The dog's ready to go outside.
It's like negative 32.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Nope and like just run back inside.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Just kidding, it was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, it's been an epic week, so snow in Florida, this
just torrential snow coming inmany parts of the country Didn't
quite make it down to us, butit's cold here.
Many parts of the countryDidn't quite make it down to us,
but it's cold.
Here it is chillier than normal.
New president has beeninaugurated, placed in office
and he hit the floor running.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Also a new vice president?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, of course, new vice president comes along with
the president, new nationalchampion in football college
football.
That happened this week, soyeah, there's been a lot of
stuff going on this week.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Have you noticed how many players, athletes have been
sharing their faith?
Yeah, that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's all over the place, yeah, and Ohio State
really had a revival led by manyof their players, their
quarterback, sharing his faithOne of the receivers actively
sharing his faith.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They're starting running back Notre Dame Now.
We're not Catholic butattending Mass again since 2007,
.
I think they hadn't had aregular attendance before games.
Now they're attending it.
The coaches share his faith.
The quarterback share his faith.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yes, quarterback celebrating with Ohio State in
the sense that he said, man,those brothers in Christ, I'm
glad to see God honoring them inthat way, so that's really cool
yeah, so this discussion abouta revival happening on college
campuses it seems visible.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
if you watch sports and hear from students, that's
incredible.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It seems real.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, genuine.
Well, hey, uh, I got a fact foryou, pastor Bob you always do.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I don't a fact I always put in quotes with you.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But did you read these?
I did not.
You told me not to read the topof the page.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So I I I'm very much a rule follower.
I did not read the top of thepage.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Do you like?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
zoos.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I don't dislike a zoo , it's just kind of like a hot
queue waiting for an animal todo something fun.
And sometimes they don't doanything fun, Like the monkey
areas.
Usually they're moving around.
It's kind of fun to watch them.
Yeah, you just got to duckevery now and then.
But have you ever went over tolike the lion area and they're
just?
They're either not there orthey're sleeping.
What do you want them to do?
(04:06):
Rah Right, scratch the glass,or something like that Okay, you
know yeah.
But you've went into that areaand they're just sleeping.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Been around cats much .
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And they sleep a lot, a lot, but it just to see it.
You know the king of the jungleand they're just snoozing right
.
Well, a lot of people getpretty upset about that, and
it's pretty common to go to azoo and see that the lion is
sleeping, chilling.
And it makes sense once yourealize that lions can sleep up
to 21 hours of a day yeah, like80 of the the day right 21 hours
(04:40):
.
Yeah, they're awake for threehours do you have a?
Cat darlene has a cat darlene.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Hasene has a cat Darlene has a cat and that cat
sleeps constantly.
That cat's always asleep.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I just don't like cats at all.
We've talked about this.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, because you're afraid if you die it'll eat your
face.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yes, we know, a coroner said so 21 hours of
sleep and then they wake up andthey want to kill.
Cute little cuddly cat no.
They want to kill, and thenthey just go back to sleep and
they lay all over your furniture.
They lay all over their zooCage area.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Why do you do that to that little cat?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
What about this one?
Oh my god, she's showing uspictures.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
With cats and adornments upon them.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And hats.
Cats with hats.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Cats with hats, cats with knitted caps they love
their hats.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What was on that cap yeah look thrilled.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
There's a frog and there's a strawberry.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did you make these?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
No, I did not.
You made them.
Jayden bought them for mybirthday.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Nice Cat hats.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Like were they made for cats.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, specifically for cats.
They love them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I can see by the look on their face that they're
thrilled.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
We probably have someone here in the office that
legitimately could make this, oh, 100%.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Oh yeah, miss Seth could make some hats.
She's got some skills For mycat.
She would probably enjoy that.
She's got some crochet I shouldshow her.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Bring the cat in, show the pictures you've made.
Seriously, seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Torture more cats.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Knitting takes crocheting all of that takes a
long time.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, so all of this?
Because you told us that a lioncan sleep 21 hours.
I wonder if miss seth couldmake a lion a hat.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The question isn't can she make it, can she put it
on him?
That's the question.
If you made it, who puts it onhim?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
let's think about this so when you sleep a lot,
you get groggy, right.
You wake up.
Sometimes you don't feelrefreshed right?
If you sleep too much, youoversleep, right?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't have that experience in my life very often
.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Feeling groggy?
Yeah no, oversleeping, yeahwell, a lion is like apex
predator Everybody's got to run.
King of the jungle, does itjust get plenty of sleep?
So it just springs into actionfor the three hours to kill, eat
and then just sleep another 21hours, mm-hmm, ah, it's just a
weird life.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Exerts a lot of energy in those three hours and
then just tuckered out.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, poor guy just tuckered out.
Mm-hmm.
I have a question for you.
Oh boy, there are a number ofnicknames for addressing other
friends.
Men, men, friends, okay, men,friends Rank.
There are a number of nicknamesfor addressing other friends
men, men, friends, okay, men,friends.
Rank them by what you believeis most flattering to receive.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So dudes hanging out right.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Dudes just being dudes, okay, chilling hanging
with other dudes.
Gotcha.
Rank these nicknames foraddressing friend dudes Ready,
champ bro, buddy, boss and dude,what is most flattering for you
to receive.
So I'll say it what's up champ,what's up bro, what's up buddy,
(07:31):
what's up boss, what's up dude.
Rank them from most flattering,most flattering in your opinion
, to least flatter.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Like this is the coolest to be called all right,
um, wow, I'll say I mean champbro, buddy, boss, dude I'm
currently in soccer season whereI'm coaching high school kids,
and so I hear bro or bruh to youa hundred times a day.
(08:02):
Yeah, usually not to me, it'sjust they start sentences with
it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know how everybody used to say low key.
Now it's bruh.
Bruh, you're killing me.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, so that one I just want to eliminate from the
list so that's number five.
That's the worst.
That's the worst.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
No, I would say boss dude.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Boss is the worst.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
No, you told me to go from the top down.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
So I'm going from the top.
I'm following the instructionsthat you gave me All right, dude
.
So boss is first you like boss?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That didn't sound like it was pleasant.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So why boss number one?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Because it's a turn of endearment.
Yeah, it's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's like a guy who knows how to make your sandwich.
What's up, boss?
Yeah, boss, you're a boss.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I recognize you .
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You got some skills there.
Yeah, you're the man.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So, boss, dude, champ to me is on the bottom.
Champ to me Really, yeah, champto me.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
See, I think champ is kind of flattering as well.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, what's up, champ, it can be.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah it.
So what's that?
What, bro, and what's the otherone?
Um, I think boss is likelooking up to someone.
Champ is probably also lookingat someone, so long as you say
it in the right inflection, bro,is kind of even level.
Yeah, yeah, kind of justbrother, yeah yeah, uh dude.
Dude is probably aligned withbro somewhere on the even level.
Buddy, I think.
Yeah, buddy is, I just don'tremember your name buddy, buddy,
that's all that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I say buddy sometimes , but I think buddy buddy is, I
just don't remember your name.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Buddy, buddy, that's all that I say buddy sometimes,
but I think buddy could be saidin such a way where it's almost
like hey, little buddy, yeah.
So I just gave my secret away.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
If I ever call you buddy, it's just I.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I cannot recall your name at the moment yeah that's
what it is but I can't do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I can't do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I can't do that anymore.
Hey, buddy.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But I think you say little buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You don't say little champ or little boss, right, so
little buddy can be said in sucha way.
Or buddy can be said in such away to kind of look at someone
younger or more, maybe eveninferior, perhaps.
So boss is first For me, yeah,and then boss dude dude not
champ.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I say I'm, I, I'm not against champ I just don't look
at it the same way you do champis nice okay, so.
So champ to me is somebody.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I'm looking at somebody smaller, younger and
saying really, yeah, okay, yeah,all right but that that doesn't
mean that you have to look atit that way.
Okay.
So your boss dude.
What's next would that be?
Is, bro, the bottom of the listfor you Right now?
It is just because.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm so tired of it.
So, boss dude, champ buddy.
Buddy's at the bottom of thelist, Bro's right ahead of it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, so boss dude champ, bro buddy, did I say that
right?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm pretty sure I said it, right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So if I say what's up boss, right.
So if I say what's up boss,that's a term of endearment.
Sure, all right, that's my newterm for you.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I said what's up, pastor dude?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Pastor.
Dude, then we're just hanging,mr Shepherd sir.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, mr Shepherd, sir, depending depending on how
you interpret revelation two andthree.
What's up?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Mr messenger messenger.
Why you gotta make everythingtheological.
Ever been called an angelbefore?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
ever been called an angel before.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'm gonna start calling you guys that please
don't.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh, man, today we're talking about the ninth
commandment.
This may be the end of ourcommandment talk.
Commandment conversations.
The ninth commandment.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
What is the ninth commandment?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
well, the ninth commandment.
What is the ninth commandment?
Well, the ninth commandment,Exodus 20, verse 16, says you
shall not bear false witness.
There's the phrase bear falsewitness against your neighbor.
Well, who is my neighbor?
I think Jesus would answer thatbeing anyone.
Basically, so you shall notbear false witness against
another person.
What does it mean to bear falsewitness against a person?
(11:47):
What is God prohibiting here,and what is he commanding us to
by prohibiting it?
That's the question for today'sconversation.
So, Pastor Bob, help usunderstand.
What does it mean to bear falsewitness?
Why should we not do that?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And what is he commanding us to be like?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
There's a lot of questions you just asked in
there.
Yeah, because I think with eachcommand there's a don't do this
, so that you are like this Sure, sure, sure sure, of course?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, all the commandments are reflection of
God's character and what heintends for us to reflect as
well.
So bearing false witness Ithink a modern term for that
would be slander.
We talked about this off airbefore we came on which is
maliciously lying about somebody, lying about someone's
character.
There's intentionality in it,it's not.
oh, I accidentally toldsomething that wasn't true about
somebody, which we should avoidas well.
If we're not certain aboutsomething, we shouldn't be
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talking about it, but there'sintentionality in slander.
It is to mislead in order tocause some form of harm.
I want to cause that personharm or I want to gain something
by saying something negativeabout that person.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I just don't like them, and so I want them out of
my space.
Sure, I want others to lookdown upon them.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So you're lying about someone else for some form of
personal gain, right?
So you're spreading falsehoodsabout someone else just because
you want to gain something outof it.
Either harm them or to gainsomething for yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Now, if this is in a courtroom setting which might
have been set up for in the OldTestament, there's a number of
different commands have happened.
(13:33):
There were extra commands inplace for bringing an accusation
upon someone.
In the Old Testament thereneeded to be two witnesses.
Right, there needed to be twopeople that could say yes, in
fact that did happen to prohibitsomeone bearing false witness,
because we are prone to sin andone of those sins would be
bearing false witness to bringsomeone else down, to malign
their character because of ourfrustration to them, want
everybody else to look down uponthem, to want them imprisoned
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because we don't want to dealwith whatever it might be.
So two witnesses.
Also in the Old Testament, setup in the book of Deuteronomy,
if I'm not mistaken, was thatyou would need to be willing to
bear the first to take up thestone.
So if they're going to beaccused of a malicious crime or
an evil crime, the witnesseswould often be the executioner,
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they would take up the stones,they'd be the first people to
throw the stones and so are yousure you're ready to bring this
accusation?
That would kind of prohibit theperson from just spewing
falsehood.
And then the third thing set upI think also in the book of
Deuteronomy, if I'm not mistakenis that if you were to bring a
false accusation and it was tobe proven as a false accusation
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intentionally, then whatever youintended to do to the person
that you falsely accused wouldhappen back to you.
So this would help preventspewing out falsehood in the
common town square.
This is a big deal, real bigdeal, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And there's still some protections of that in a
court case.
If you can't go on and, underoath, slander somebody and later
be found out that you werelying about it, then there are
consequences for that.
So the principle remains thesame.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So this is a law for God's people.
What does he want God's peopleto be like then?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, there's some things he doesn't want, many
things that he does.
So Exodus 23 actually talksabout somebody that bears false
witness is doing what the wickeddo.
So this is something thatdoesn't show that you are right
with God.
This is something that thepagan wicked people do.
It spreads strife amongst thebrethren.
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So causing others to thinkwrongly against somebody else
causes strife within.
It's just flat out lying right.
So that goes against thecommandments.
It goes against what we'vetaught in Proverbs.
It causes harm to others, whichis the opposite of what Christ
has told us to do with ourneighbors.
It's actually listed in the sixthings that God hates.
(16:04):
In what is that?
Proverbs 14?
Where's that listed?
But it's Proverbs 6.
There's six things that God'shates, and one of them is
bearing false witness.
So why it's prohibited?
Because we are supposed toreflect the character of God,
and God cannot lie.
He does not lie, he does notbear false witness, and so we're
supposed to be reflecting thecharacter of God, which is what
(16:25):
the purpose of the commandmentsis.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
It is to demonstrate to us his character and the
expectation of us.
So that is what the purpose ofthe commandments is it is to
demonstrate to us his characterand the expectation of us, so
that we might reflect hischaracter.
And so, by bearing falsewitness, we are going against
the character of God, who cannotand will not lie.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
We think about the commands given in the New
Testament to the church, andconsistently, commands are given
for us to be for one another,to love one another, to build
one another up, to encourage oneanother, to keep one another
steadfast right.
And so we weren't created justto benefit ourselves, but to be
a benefit to others, to helpthose that God has put us around
.
And so if we are, I mean, doingthe opposite of that, we are
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lying for the benefit of ourselfat the expense of our brother,
and that's really what bearingfalse witness is right what can
I get out of lying and how can Ihurt or harm you with this lie?
That's the sort of bearing falsewitness it is yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, and I think there's three primary reasons
why we're prohibited from it.
The first is the character ofGod and us reflecting it.
Second is what you've justmentioned it bearing false
witnesses causes damage in oursociety, not good, and we're
here to do good in our society,uh.
The third is we're just simplysupposed to.
We're commanded to love ourneighbors, uh, as we love
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ourselves or as christ lovesthem.
So bearing false witness is nota loving act at all.
It's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So I think, for those three reasons, it's why God
prohibits bearing false witness,slandering someone else.
Yeah, oh, you think of 1 John,chapter 4.
It's 1 John 4, 8 or 9.
I can't remember which verse.
God is love.
He has commanded his people tobe a reflection of him, to love
one another.
What is love?
Well, it is displayed in Christsacrificing oneself for the
(18:18):
benefit of others.
Right, laying one's life downfor the sake of others.
What is the opposite of love?
It is hatred.
It is sacrificing others forthe sake of oneself.
So what does hatred look likewith slander?
It's using our mouth tosacrifice others.
Mouth hate.
Sacrifice others for thebenefit of ourselves.
Right.
Which is the very opposite ofwhat God has given our mouths
(18:41):
for.
Right.
Our mouths are for lifting uphis name and encouraging others
right.
So it's using our mouth to hate.
That's what bearing falsewitness is right.
It's lying, using our mouth tohate, so he wants us to use our
mouth to love him love others.
If this isn't the court casesetting the verses of
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Deuteronomy that are brought upbefore all the ways in which
someone who was giving anaccusation would be warned, one
who received an accusationprotected, how are we to think
about the world that we live intoday, in that sort of world?
Back in the day we had a townsquare, you could have hurled
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accusations in the town square.
Now you almost have a worldsquare online and it seems like
there's falsehood everywhere.
Right?
People are hurling accusations,degrading one another's
character without investigation,and while there may not be well
, there may not be a trial,there may just be a sort of well
(19:45):
this is what I heard about thisperson and a canceling, so
maybe not a courtroom, but acanceling.
How are we to live above thatfray?
How are we to think about theNinth Commandment in that sort
of atmosphere?
Or the town square existsonline in the cloud.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, be careful what we're posting.
Be careful what we're saying.
Legally speaking, there's adifference between slander,
which is a verbal, and a libel,which is a written.
So, legally speaking, um, whenyou're online, if you're typing
it out, it's libel, not slander,but it's the same thing, you're
you're bearing false witness.
If, if that's what you're doing, is you're you're sharing
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something about somebody that isunflattering, maybe not even
true, and you're trying tobenefit from it or harm them.
Christians have no businessdoing that, nor do they have any
business sharing it or evenentertaining it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Quite honestly, yeah, my word of caution thinking
about this is okay impugningsomeone's character, their
identity, without investigation?
And I think there's just a lotof things that are shared
without adequate investigation,right?
So even investigation isdifficult when people are saying
things that may or may not betrue.
Online, it's really hard toknow what is true and what is
(20:56):
not true, but we should bereally careful, as Christians,
to share something that wouldimpugn someone's character
without really thinking through.
Do I know this to be true?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Do I know this person and is this consistent with
their character?
Do I know the source that'sactually saying what they're
saying about the character inquestion?
So I think Christians reallyneed to be careful about bearing
false witness.
Now, bearing false witness isintentional, but playing into
that when someone was causing itto be intentional by just
sharing it without thinking,without investigation there was
(21:26):
an investigative process to makesure that an accusation was
correct, and there's not aninvestigative process online.
So be really careful adding tothe fray the stone, throwing
right without great careInvestigation.
I think that's a big word ofwarning today.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh, absolutely Right.
Yeah, you've got to be abovethat fray.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And I think chapter, the commandment or nine, would
caution us to make anyaccusation, to join in
accusations, without thoroughthought.
Sure.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, even as you're talking about a public forum
like social media, it can alsobe a private forum, like texting
and sharing information,talking about somebody through a
text, um, passing that on with,even within a friend group.
Just great caution in doingthat.
Even if you're not the oneintentionally starting the um
(22:19):
false witness about somebodypassing it on, you're doing that
with intentionality, you'redoing it for some reason.
Why are you passing thatinformation on?
Why are you sharing thatinformation?
What are you gaining from it bydoing so?
So I think your word of cautionis wise.
If, before you say things aboutpeople, is it true, is it right
, is it kind, is it necessary?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
If those things aren't there, then why am I
saying it?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, if I wouldn't say it out loud in the court
square, should I be saying itout loud even if I'm typing it
in the world square?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Or if I wouldn't sit across the table looking in the
eye and talk to you about it.
Why am I going to telleverybody else about it?
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's good, all right.
Any more thoughts on this?
I think this particularcommandment is applicable today
in ways we would not haveimmediately taken it to be, and
that goes for any of the TenCommandments.
Jesus tells us that thesecommandments, first, are matters
of the heart.
Right that to not commitadultery is to not think about,
(23:19):
to not lust after someone, tonot murder is to not hate, right
, I mean, what is murder otherthan wanting to—what is hatred
other than wanting to murdersomeone in your heart, right?
So with the Knight Commandment,be very careful about joining
in falsehood and puningsomeone's character with that
investigation, that thoroughinvestigation.
(23:41):
Be nice, be nice, just be kind.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Be better, be Christ-like.
That's a better way of sayingit All right.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Well, be Christ-like, that's a better way of saying
it.
All right, well, I want to endhere.
We talked about ways to addressbros.
What are some ways ladiesaddress one another?
What's up, sis, girl, girl.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Hey girl, girlfriend, girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
If guys say girlfriend, they mean something
different than girls saygirlfriend.
Girls say girly, girly.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I don't know if I really like that, okay, well,
let's write them down.
This is how we're going to end.
All right, we're 24 minutes in.
We already finished our topic,so here we go.
Girly is one Girly.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I-E or Y I-E.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Okay, don't look at, I don't have a clue.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Exciting radio I don't know.
Girly girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Girly girlfriend, girlfriend's not as popular
anymore.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well, still got to put it on the list because we
only got two.
Do girls call?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
each other, bro.
Yeah, they do.
Okay, we'll put it on there anddude, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I've heard them do that.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Slang terms for.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Cutie Boo that Slang terms for cutie boo love.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Okay, I can see love Boo is weird.
All right, we'll just go withthis.
We'll go bro slash dude is one,and then we'll go cutie, love,
girlfriend and girly.
Rank them what's one thatyou're okay with being called
and what's the other ones thatare just bleh.
There's the paper.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Girly girlfriend, bro bro dude, cutie love.
Yeah, talk on the mic sorrywhat's one that you're like,
don't that just girly, dependingon how people use it is just.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I have heard someone say I think jokingly girly,
girly girly pop.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think that was you.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Just fine, I think I think I've heard you say that to
be a joke, all right.
So, so what's the best?
What's the worst?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
We'll just go there, I think I like, I like, that's
just weird.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
The inflection on girl matters, the inflection on
most of these does matter too.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Hey, hey buddy, I like you Dude, dude.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I'm a.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Girlfriend, I don't know.
Come on, pick one best one.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I like bro dude, because I feel like that.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That means you're probably close with the person.
What's one that could be almostkind of condescending.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Girly.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Why.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
It just is.
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Does it mean you don't know their name?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
no, it doesn't mean another name, but it low-key
kind of oh wow, there's me usingthe low-key, low-key cap but
it's kind of like the buddy one,you know.
It's like hey, girly, I have totell you that, or whatever
slanderous, insert slanderousthings here, not always when I
(26:35):
hear girly, I'm gonna say ninthcommandment.
I know a lot of girls who usethat in a way.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's not that way, but okay, I also avoid girls
that use the word girly girls onhere.
If you want to have asuccessful life, don't word
girly.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Girls on here, if you want to have a successful life,
don't say, girly, there youhave it, that's it.
Good job, champ.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We made it under 30 minutes.
I like Champ Champ's number twoon the list.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Just say it in a positive way with a smile on
your face.
Pastor Dude and Pastor Champ,you're the boss.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
That is number one.
That's definitely number one.
Boss is number one.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Boss is number one, then Darren's pastor boss.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding Boss,
pastor, boss, man boss, Pastor,boss, dude Shepherd boss.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Pastor dude pastor champ.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Shepherd six boss man .
All right, hey, thanks forlistening in.
It's been a good time.
We've had fun.
We're under 30 minutes.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Later dudes.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Later skater.
You thought about that for toolong.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh, bye.
Have a great time there we go.
hey, everybody, welcome back to the podcast.
We have been talking aboutdinosaurs and celebrity culture,
and pastor bob loves celebrityculture.
Let me just tell all about ithe knows all about the blake
lively.
What other person's drama?
Is today, timothy chalamet andall the movies he's in now, yeah
, which we should just say Icannot get the last three
minutes of my life back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's what we're going to say.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're going to ruin another minute because I don't
know anything about celebrityculture but I do know Timothee
Chalamet is in like 20 movies itfeels like he's like in every
movie he's doing good.
Okay, well, that makes me soundlike I know much about
celebrity culture.
I do not know anything.
You culture I do not knowanything.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You were giving us the latest scoop not too long
ago.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I was sharing with what I heard, which might have
been wrong apparently, about thewhole issue between two
different celebrities right now.
Well, hey, we're glad you'reback on the podcast Anything to
get off that topic.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Please help us get off this topic.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We're also talking about dinosaurs.
It's relevant.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Dragons are in the Bible right Leviathan leviathan,
behemoth, behemoth, yeah surealso all sorts of creatures in
revelation those creatures.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You're just catching up our uh, our audience here on
what we've been discussing thelast few minutes, so they know
why we're saying these thingswelcome to the backroom
conversations of the podcast.
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah Well, a new year's begun, and it is a new
year we're three weeks into thenew year.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
What are you talking about?
New year?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's how I'm just starting the sentence, and it is
really cold.
Seven inches of snow inPensacola, florida.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
That was cool what.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Snow on the beaches of.
Florida.
Yeah, what Snow on the beachesof Florida.
On the beach yeah what?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Claudia sent me a video of her dog running around
in the snow.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Aw, I saw videos of.
My wife sent me a reel of dogs,like a compilation of dog
videos where they're opening thedoor for the dog to go outside.
There's all these differentdogs, different homes, different
videos, and the door would beopen.
The dog's ready to go outside.
It's like negative 32.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Nope and like just run back inside.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Just kidding, it was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, it's been an epic week, so snow in Florida, this
just torrential snow coming inmany parts of the country Didn't
quite make it down to us, butit's cold here.
Many parts of the countryDidn't quite make it down to us,
but it's cold.
Here it is chillier than normal.
New president has beeninaugurated, placed in office
and he hit the floor running.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Also a new vice president?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yes, of course, new vice president comes along with
the president, new nationalchampion in football college
football.
That happened this week, soyeah, there's been a lot of
stuff going on this week.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Have you noticed how many players, athletes have been
sharing their faith?
Yeah, that was a big deal.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's all over the place, yeah, and Ohio State
really had a revival led by manyof their players, their
quarterback, sharing his faithOne of the receivers actively
sharing his faith.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They're starting running back Notre Dame Now.
We're not Catholic butattending Mass again since 2007,
.
I think they hadn't had aregular attendance before games.
Now they're attending it.
The coaches share his faith.
The quarterback share his faith.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yes, quarterback celebrating with Ohio State in
the sense that he said, man,those brothers in Christ, I'm
glad to see God honoring them inthat way, so that's really cool
yeah, so this discussion abouta revival happening on college
campuses it seems visible.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
if you watch sports and hear from students, that's
incredible.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
It seems real.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, genuine.
Well, hey, uh, I got a fact foryou, pastor Bob you always do.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I don't a fact I always put in quotes with you.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But did you read these?
I did not.
You told me not to read the topof the page.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So I I I'm very much a rule follower.
I did not read the top of thepage.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Do you like?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
zoos.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I don't dislike a zoo , it's just kind of like a hot
queue waiting for an animal todo something fun.
And sometimes they don't doanything fun, Like the monkey
areas.
Usually they're moving around.
It's kind of fun to watch them.
Yeah, you just got to duckevery now and then.
But have you ever went over tolike the lion area and they're
just?
They're either not there orthey're sleeping.
What do you want them to do?
(04:06):
Rah Right, scratch the glass,or something like that Okay, you
know yeah.
But you've went into that areaand they're just sleeping.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Been around cats much .
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And they sleep a lot, a lot, but it just to see it.
You know the king of the jungleand they're just snoozing right
.
Well, a lot of people getpretty upset about that, and
it's pretty common to go to azoo and see that the lion is
sleeping, chilling.
And it makes sense once yourealize that lions can sleep up
to 21 hours of a day yeah, like80 of the the day right 21 hours
(04:40):
.
Yeah, they're awake for threehours do you have a?
Cat darlene has a cat darlene.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Hasene has a cat Darlene has a cat and that cat
sleeps constantly.
That cat's always asleep.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I just don't like cats at all.
We've talked about this.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, because you're afraid if you die it'll eat your
face.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yes, we know, a coroner said so 21 hours of
sleep and then they wake up andthey want to kill.
Cute little cuddly cat no.
They want to kill, and thenthey just go back to sleep and
they lay all over your furniture.
They lay all over their zooCage area.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Why do you do that to that little cat?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
What about this one?
Oh my god, she's showing uspictures.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
With cats and adornments upon them.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And hats.
Cats with hats.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Cats with hats, cats with knitted caps they love
their hats.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What was on that cap yeah look thrilled.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
There's a frog and there's a strawberry.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Did you make these?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
No, I did not.
You made them.
Jayden bought them for mybirthday.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Nice Cat hats.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Like were they made for cats.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, specifically for cats.
They love them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I can see by the look on their face that they're
thrilled.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
We probably have someone here in the office that
legitimately could make this, oh, 100%.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Oh yeah, miss Seth could make some hats.
She's got some skills For mycat.
She would probably enjoy that.
She's got some crochet I shouldshow her.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Bring the cat in, show the pictures you've made.
Seriously, seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Torture more cats.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Knitting takes crocheting all of that takes a
long time.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, so all of this?
Because you told us that a lioncan sleep 21 hours.
I wonder if miss seth couldmake a lion a hat.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The question isn't can she make it, can she put it
on him?
That's the question.
If you made it, who puts it onhim?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
let's think about this so when you sleep a lot,
you get groggy, right.
You wake up.
Sometimes you don't feelrefreshed right?
If you sleep too much, youoversleep, right?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I don't have that experience in my life very often
.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Feeling groggy?
Yeah no, oversleeping, yeahwell, a lion is like apex
predator Everybody's got to run.
King of the jungle, does itjust get plenty of sleep?
So it just springs into actionfor the three hours to kill, eat
and then just sleep another 21hours, mm-hmm, ah, it's just a
weird life.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Exerts a lot of energy in those three hours and
then just tuckered out.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, poor guy just tuckered out.
Mm-hmm.
I have a question for you.
Oh boy, there are a number ofnicknames for addressing other
friends.
Men, men, friends, okay, men,friends Rank.
There are a number of nicknamesfor addressing other friends
men, men, friends, okay, men,friends.
Rank them by what you believeis most flattering to receive.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So dudes hanging out right.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Dudes just being dudes, okay, chilling hanging
with other dudes.
Gotcha.
Rank these nicknames foraddressing friend dudes Ready,
champ bro, buddy, boss and dude,what is most flattering for you
to receive.
So I'll say it what's up champ,what's up bro, what's up buddy,
(07:31):
what's up boss, what's up dude.
Rank them from most flattering,most flattering in your opinion
, to least flatter.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Like this is the coolest to be called all right,
um, wow, I'll say I mean champbro, buddy, boss, dude I'm
currently in soccer season whereI'm coaching high school kids,
and so I hear bro or bruh to youa hundred times a day.
(08:02):
Yeah, usually not to me, it'sjust they start sentences with
it.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know how everybody used to say low key.
Now it's bruh.
Bruh, you're killing me.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, so that one I just want to eliminate from the
list so that's number five.
That's the worst.
That's the worst.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
No, I would say boss dude.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Boss is the worst.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
No, you told me to go from the top down.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
So I'm going from the top.
I'm following the instructionsthat you gave me All right, dude
.
So boss is first you like boss?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
That didn't sound like it was pleasant.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So why boss number one?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Because it's a turn of endearment.
Yeah, it's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's like a guy who knows how to make your sandwich.
What's up, boss?
Yeah, boss, you're a boss.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I recognize you .
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You got some skills there.
Yeah, you're the man.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So, boss, dude, champ to me is on the bottom.
Champ to me Really, yeah, champto me.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
See, I think champ is kind of flattering as well.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, what's up, champ, it can be.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah it.
So what's that?
What, bro, and what's the otherone?
Um, I think boss is likelooking up to someone.
Champ is probably also lookingat someone, so long as you say
it in the right inflection, bro,is kind of even level.
Yeah, yeah, kind of justbrother, yeah yeah, uh dude.
Dude is probably aligned withbro somewhere on the even level.
Buddy, I think.
Yeah, buddy is, I just don'tremember your name buddy, buddy,
that's all that.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I say buddy sometimes , but I think buddy buddy is, I
just don't remember your name.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Buddy, buddy, that's all that I say buddy sometimes,
but I think buddy could be saidin such a way where it's almost
like hey, little buddy, yeah.
So I just gave my secret away.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
If I ever call you buddy, it's just I.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I cannot recall your name at the moment yeah that's
what it is but I can't do thatanymore.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I can't do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I can't do that anymore.
Hey, buddy.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But I think you say little buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You don't say little champ or little boss, right, so
little buddy can be said in sucha way.
Or buddy can be said in such away to kind of look at someone
younger or more, maybe eveninferior, perhaps.
So boss is first For me, yeah,and then boss dude dude not
champ.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I say I'm, I, I'm not against champ I just don't look
at it the same way you do champis nice okay, so.
So champ to me is somebody.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I'm looking at somebody smaller, younger and
saying really, yeah, okay, yeah,all right but that that doesn't
mean that you have to look atit that way.
Okay.
So your boss dude.
What's next would that be?
Is, bro, the bottom of the listfor you Right now?
It is just because.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm so tired of it.
So, boss dude, champ buddy.
Buddy's at the bottom of thelist, Bro's right ahead of it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, so boss dude champ, bro buddy, did I say that
right?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm pretty sure I said it, right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So if I say what's up boss, right.
So if I say what's up boss,that's a term of endearment.
Sure, all right, that's my newterm for you.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I said what's up, pastor dude?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Pastor.
Dude, then we're just hanging,mr Shepherd sir.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, mr Shepherd, sir, depending depending on how
you interpret revelation two andthree.
What's up?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Mr messenger messenger.
Why you gotta make everythingtheological.
Ever been called an angelbefore?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
ever been called an angel before.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I'm gonna start calling you guys that please
don't.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh, man, today we're talking about the ninth
commandment.
This may be the end of ourcommandment talk.
Commandment conversations.
The ninth commandment.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
What is the ninth commandment?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
well, the ninth commandment.
What is the ninth commandment?
Well, the ninth commandment,Exodus 20, verse 16, says you
shall not bear false witness.
There's the phrase bear falsewitness against your neighbor.
Well, who is my neighbor?
I think Jesus would answer thatbeing anyone.
Basically, so you shall notbear false witness against
another person.
What does it mean to bear falsewitness against a person?
(11:47):
What is God prohibiting here,and what is he commanding us to
by prohibiting it?
That's the question for today'sconversation.
So, Pastor Bob, help usunderstand.
What does it mean to bear falsewitness?
Why should we not do that?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And what is he commanding us to be like?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
There's a lot of questions you just asked in
there.
Yeah, because I think with eachcommand there's a don't do this
, so that you are like this Sure, sure, sure sure, of course?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, all the commandments are reflection of
God's character and what heintends for us to reflect as
well.
So bearing false witness Ithink a modern term for that
would be slander.
We talked about this off airbefore we came on which is
maliciously lying about somebody, lying about someone's
character.
There's intentionality in it,it's not.
oh, I accidentally toldsomething that wasn't true about
somebody, which we should avoidas well.
If we're not certain aboutsomething, we shouldn't be
(12:34):
talking about it, but there'sintentionality in slander.
It is to mislead in order tocause some form of harm.
I want to cause that personharm or I want to gain something
by saying something negativeabout that person.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I just don't like them, and so I want them out of
my space.
Sure, I want others to lookdown upon them.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So you're lying about someone else for some form of
personal gain, right?
So you're spreading falsehoodsabout someone else just because
you want to gain something outof it.
Either harm them or to gainsomething for yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Now, if this is in a courtroom setting which might
have been set up for in the OldTestament, there's a number of
different commands have happened.
(13:33):
There were extra commands inplace for bringing an accusation
upon someone.
In the Old Testament thereneeded to be two witnesses.
Right, there needed to be twopeople that could say yes, in
fact that did happen to prohibitsomeone bearing false witness,
because we are prone to sin andone of those sins would be
bearing false witness to bringsomeone else down, to malign
their character because of ourfrustration to them, want
everybody else to look down uponthem, to want them imprisoned
(13:54):
because we don't want to dealwith whatever it might be.
So two witnesses.
Also in the Old Testament, setup in the book of Deuteronomy,
if I'm not mistaken, was thatyou would need to be willing to
bear the first to take up thestone.
So if they're going to beaccused of a malicious crime or
an evil crime, the witnesseswould often be the executioner,
(14:17):
they would take up the stones,they'd be the first people to
throw the stones and so are yousure you're ready to bring this
accusation?
That would kind of prohibit theperson from just spewing
falsehood.
And then the third thing set upI think also in the book of
Deuteronomy, if I'm not mistakenis that if you were to bring a
false accusation and it was tobe proven as a false accusation
(14:38):
intentionally, then whatever youintended to do to the person
that you falsely accused wouldhappen back to you.
So this would help preventspewing out falsehood in the
common town square.
This is a big deal, real bigdeal, sure.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And there's still some protections of that in a
court case.
If you can't go on and, underoath, slander somebody and later
be found out that you werelying about it, then there are
consequences for that.
So the principle remains thesame.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So this is a law for God's people.
What does he want God's peopleto be like then?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, there's some things he doesn't want, many
things that he does.
So Exodus 23 actually talksabout somebody that bears false
witness is doing what the wickeddo.
So this is something thatdoesn't show that you are right
with God.
This is something that thepagan wicked people do.
It spreads strife amongst thebrethren.
(15:35):
So causing others to thinkwrongly against somebody else
causes strife within.
It's just flat out lying right.
So that goes against thecommandments.
It goes against what we'vetaught in Proverbs.
It causes harm to others, whichis the opposite of what Christ
has told us to do with ourneighbors.
It's actually listed in the sixthings that God hates.
(16:04):
In what is that?
Proverbs 14?
Where's that listed?
But it's Proverbs 6.
There's six things that God'shates, and one of them is
bearing false witness.
So why it's prohibited?
Because we are supposed toreflect the character of God,
and God cannot lie.
He does not lie, he does notbear false witness, and so we're
supposed to be reflecting thecharacter of God, which is what
(16:25):
the purpose of the commandmentsis.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
It is to demonstrate to us his character and the
expectation of us.
So that is what the purpose ofthe commandments is it is to
demonstrate to us his characterand the expectation of us, so
that we might reflect hischaracter.
And so, by bearing falsewitness, we are going against
the character of God, who cannotand will not lie.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
We think about the commands given in the New
Testament to the church, andconsistently, commands are given
for us to be for one another,to love one another, to build
one another up, to encourage oneanother, to keep one another
steadfast right.
And so we weren't created justto benefit ourselves, but to be
a benefit to others, to helpthose that God has put us around
.
And so if we are, I mean, doingthe opposite of that, we are
(17:05):
lying for the benefit of ourselfat the expense of our brother,
and that's really what bearingfalse witness is right what can
I get out of lying and how can Ihurt or harm you with this lie?
That's the sort of bearing falsewitness it is yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, and I think there's three primary reasons
why we're prohibited from it.
The first is the character ofGod and us reflecting it.
Second is what you've justmentioned it bearing false
witnesses causes damage in oursociety, not good, and we're
here to do good in our society,uh.
The third is we're just simplysupposed to.
We're commanded to love ourneighbors, uh, as we love
(17:41):
ourselves or as christ lovesthem.
So bearing false witness is nota loving act at all.
It's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So I think, for those three reasons, it's why God
prohibits bearing false witness,slandering someone else.
Yeah, oh, you think of 1 John,chapter 4.
It's 1 John 4, 8 or 9.
I can't remember which verse.
God is love.
He has commanded his people tobe a reflection of him, to love
one another.
What is love?
Well, it is displayed in Christsacrificing oneself for the
(18:18):
benefit of others.
Right, laying one's life downfor the sake of others.
What is the opposite of love?
It is hatred.
It is sacrificing others forthe sake of oneself.
So what does hatred look likewith slander?
It's using our mouth tosacrifice others.
Mouth hate.
Sacrifice others for thebenefit of ourselves.
Right.
Which is the very opposite ofwhat God has given our mouths
(18:41):
for.
Right.
Our mouths are for lifting uphis name and encouraging others
right.
So it's using our mouth to hate.
That's what bearing falsewitness is right.
It's lying, using our mouth tohate, so he wants us to use our
mouth to love him love others.
If this isn't the court casesetting the verses of
(19:03):
Deuteronomy that are brought upbefore all the ways in which
someone who was giving anaccusation would be warned, one
who received an accusationprotected, how are we to think
about the world that we live intoday, in that sort of world?
Back in the day we had a townsquare, you could have hurled
(19:23):
accusations in the town square.
Now you almost have a worldsquare online and it seems like
there's falsehood everywhere.
Right?
People are hurling accusations,degrading one another's
character without investigation,and while there may not be well
, there may not be a trial,there may just be a sort of well
(19:45):
this is what I heard about thisperson and a canceling, so
maybe not a courtroom, but acanceling.
How are we to live above thatfray?
How are we to think about theNinth Commandment in that sort
of atmosphere?
Or the town square existsonline in the cloud.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Well, be careful what we're posting.
Be careful what we're saying.
Legally speaking, there's adifference between slander,
which is a verbal, and a libel,which is a written.
So, legally speaking, um, whenyou're online, if you're typing
it out, it's libel, not slander,but it's the same thing, you're
you're bearing false witness.
If, if that's what you're doing, is you're you're sharing
(20:20):
something about somebody that isunflattering, maybe not even
true, and you're trying tobenefit from it or harm them.
Christians have no businessdoing that, nor do they have any
business sharing it or evenentertaining it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Quite honestly, yeah, my word of caution thinking
about this is okay impugningsomeone's character, their
identity, without investigation?
And I think there's just a lotof things that are shared
without adequate investigation,right?
So even investigation isdifficult when people are saying
things that may or may not betrue.
Online, it's really hard toknow what is true and what is
(20:56):
not true, but we should bereally careful, as Christians,
to share something that wouldimpugn someone's character
without really thinking through.
Do I know this to be true?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Do I know this person and is this consistent with
their character?
Do I know the source that'sactually saying what they're
saying about the character inquestion?
So I think Christians reallyneed to be careful about bearing
false witness.
Now, bearing false witness isintentional, but playing into
that when someone was causing itto be intentional by just
sharing it without thinking,without investigation there was
(21:26):
an investigative process to makesure that an accusation was
correct, and there's not aninvestigative process online.
So be really careful adding tothe fray the stone, throwing
right without great careInvestigation.
I think that's a big word ofwarning today.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Oh, absolutely Right.
Yeah, you've got to be abovethat fray.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And I think chapter, the commandment or nine, would
caution us to make anyaccusation, to join in
accusations, without thoroughthought.
Sure.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, even as you're talking about a public forum
like social media, it can alsobe a private forum, like texting
and sharing information,talking about somebody through a
text, um, passing that on with,even within a friend group.
Just great caution in doingthat.
Even if you're not the oneintentionally starting the um
(22:19):
false witness about somebodypassing it on, you're doing that
with intentionality, you'redoing it for some reason.
Why are you passing thatinformation on?
Why are you sharing thatinformation?
What are you gaining from it bydoing so?
So I think your word of cautionis wise.
If, before you say things aboutpeople, is it true, is it right
, is it kind, is it necessary?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
If those things aren't there, then why am I
saying it?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, if I wouldn't say it out loud in the court
square, should I be saying itout loud even if I'm typing it
in the world square?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Or if I wouldn't sit across the table looking in the
eye and talk to you about it.
Why am I going to telleverybody else about it?
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's good, all right.
Any more thoughts on this?
I think this particularcommandment is applicable today
in ways we would not haveimmediately taken it to be, and
that goes for any of the TenCommandments.
Jesus tells us that thesecommandments, first, are matters
of the heart.
Right that to not commitadultery is to not think about,
(23:19):
to not lust after someone, tonot murder is to not hate, right
, I mean, what is murder otherthan wanting to—what is hatred
other than wanting to murdersomeone in your heart, right?
So with the Knight Commandment,be very careful about joining
in falsehood and puningsomeone's character with that
investigation, that thoroughinvestigation.
(23:41):
Be nice, be nice, just be kind.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Be better, be Christ-like.
That's a better way of sayingit All right.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Well, be Christ-like, that's a better way of saying
it.
All right, well, I want to endhere.
We talked about ways to addressbros.
What are some ways ladiesaddress one another?
What's up, sis, girl, girl.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Hey girl, girlfriend, girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
If guys say girlfriend, they mean something
different than girls saygirlfriend.
Girls say girly, girly.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I don't know if I really like that, okay, well,
let's write them down.
This is how we're going to end.
All right, we're 24 minutes in.
We already finished our topic,so here we go.
Girly is one Girly.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I-E or Y I-E.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Okay, don't look at, I don't have a clue.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Exciting radio I don't know.
Girly girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Girly girlfriend, girlfriend's not as popular
anymore.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well, still got to put it on the list because we
only got two.
Do girls call?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
each other, bro.
Yeah, they do.
Okay, we'll put it on there anddude, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I've heard them do that.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Slang terms for.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Cutie Boo that Slang terms for cutie boo love.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Okay, I can see love Boo is weird.
All right, we'll just go withthis.
We'll go bro slash dude is one,and then we'll go cutie, love,
girlfriend and girly.
Rank them what's one thatyou're okay with being called
and what's the other ones thatare just bleh.
There's the paper.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Girly girlfriend, bro bro dude, cutie love.
Yeah, talk on the mic sorrywhat's one that you're like,
don't that just girly, dependingon how people use it is just.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I have heard someone say I think jokingly girly,
girly girly pop.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think that was you.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Just fine, I think I think I've heard you say that to
be a joke, all right.
So, so what's the best?
What's the worst?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
We'll just go there, I think I like, I like, that's
just weird.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
The inflection on girl matters, the inflection on
most of these does matter too.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Hey, hey buddy, I like you Dude, dude.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I'm a.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Girlfriend, I don't know.
Come on, pick one best one.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I like bro dude, because I feel like that.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That means you're probably close with the person.
What's one that could be almostkind of condescending.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Girly.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Why.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
It just is.
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Does it mean you don't know their name?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
no, it doesn't mean another name, but it low-key
kind of oh wow, there's me usingthe low-key, low-key cap but
it's kind of like the buddy one,you know.
It's like hey, girly, I have totell you that, or whatever
slanderous, insert slanderousthings here, not always when I
(26:35):
hear girly, I'm gonna say ninthcommandment.
I know a lot of girls who usethat in a way.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's not that way, but okay, I also avoid girls
that use the word girly girls onhere.
If you want to have asuccessful life, don't word
girly.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Girls on here, if you want to have a successful life,
don't say, girly, there youhave it, that's it.
Good job, champ.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
We made it under 30 minutes.
I like Champ Champ's number twoon the list.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Just say it in a positive way with a smile on
your face.
Pastor Dude and Pastor Champ,you're the boss.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
That is number one.
That's definitely number one.
Boss is number one.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Boss is number one, then Darren's pastor boss.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding Boss,
pastor, boss, man boss, Pastor,boss, dude Shepherd boss.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Pastor dude pastor champ.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Shepherd six boss man .
All right, hey, thanks forlistening in.
It's been a good time.
We've had fun.
We're under 30 minutes.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Later dudes.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Later skater.
You thought about that for toolong.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oh, bye.
Have a great time there we go.
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