April 14, 2025 • 51 mins
Death couldn't hold Him. The grave couldn't keep Him. The resurrection of Jesus changed everything.
In this episode, we are joined by Pastor Darren as we walk through the final week of Jesus's earthly ministry—from His triumphal entry on Palm Sunday to His glorious resurrection. Together, we unpack the profound significance behind each day's events and how they perfectly fulfilled God's redemptive plan.
Through our conversation, we explore the contradictions and tensions that filled that momentous week: crowds who shouted "Hosanna" on Sunday but "Crucify Him" by Friday; religious leaders who claimed to know Scripture yet rejected their Messiah; and disciples who pledged loyalty yet scattered in fear. These human responses mirror our own struggles to fully embrace Christ's mission. Tune in to Unsexy Church for a sneak peek on what is to come this Resurrection Sunday!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Unsexy
Church podcast.
It is good to be back with you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello Kara, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm doing very well.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, good, good, it's good to have you once again in
the studio with us.
Yes, we are joined by ourdistinguished colleague.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Darren.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Selvidge.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Who is this?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Distinguished.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
D-Dog is with us today Also known as Mr Pastor
Darren.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sir, yes, by many.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So our podcast has gotten older today, so the two
elder members of the staff arehere together.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Elder- members of the staff are here together.
Elder members yes.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The elder members, the wise ones the wise ones, the
ones with the most gray hair.
There you go, we just thoughtwe'd get that out of the way,
out of the front, before someonecomments about old guys on
podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Would I have done that?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, we're going to be like you remember the Muppet
show, the two?
You remember the Muppet Show,the two guys up in the balcony,
those?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
guys' names Wilford and.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Waldorf or something.
Yeah, we're going to be likethose guys today.
Perfect, it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It will be so much fun it will be Trent is not with
us today.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
He has just gotten back from a trip to Knoxville
where he is purchasing his home,and he's out at the BCM today,
and so we're recording this on aThursday morning, so he's not
with us, so it's just the threeof us today.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It is exciting we can do whatever we want.
We've like taken over thepodcast.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We have.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's in your clutches , Pastor Rob.
What are you going to do withit?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We can do as much lively banter Old guys banter or
as little guys rule.
That's right, that's right.
So it is the week prior toEaster this week.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So a lot of preparations going on, anything
going on, a worship ministrywise, getting ready for Easter
all kinds of stuff going on.
I heard you guys rehearsinglast night.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yep, we are rehearsing uh well, you know,
for Sunday morning, for a goodFriday uh service at at noon.
We've added quite a fewinstruments to the mix compared
to what we would normally have,and so, and a few more songs at
what we would normally do on aSunday, and so, man, we're,
(02:17):
we're in the thick of it, we'rein the pull your hair out.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You're not in the weeds, though, right, not in the
weeds.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
No we we know where we're going.
Okay, all right, just not surewe're going to get there.
That's the stage we're in.
No, I'm actually.
I think I feel a little moreprepared than normal.
I don't know if it's becauseEaster is so late.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, you guys always do an amazing job.
Yeah, just using your talentsand letting God take it for his
glory.
Got a great team.
Got a great team.
We are blessed, we are blessed,so we do have a busy schedule
next weekend around ResurrectionSunday.
So Good Friday.
You mentioned our Good Fridayservice that's become a
tradition for us at noon on GoodFriday just to pause and have a
(02:56):
simple reflective time oflooking at the cross and
remembering the price thatChrist paid for our salvation.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That's one of my favorite services Just a good
time to reflect, good time ofworship and a more, you know,
just a more serious time.
Not that we are not serious allthe time.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Not like our services are frivolous, otherwise Right
right Our services are veryunsexy, right, that's right.
That's right.
That's right, but it is.
It's just kind of a I don'tknow a slowed down kind of just
vibe to it and just a reflectivetime and usually about 45
minutes, cause we do it at lunchhour in case somebody can break
(03:36):
away from lunch at work andcome join us.
So that's a good time.
Uh, saturday we'll have thepreschool egg hunt, which is
always exciting to see youngfamilies running around with
little ones.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I always see people that I have not met or don't
even go to our church.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It's a good time.
It is a good time.
It's a good time to meet thosefamilies, like you say, and just
see the little kids runningaround.
It's an opportunity that Oliviauses to share the gospel even
with the little ones.
What's Easter really all about?
It's not just these eggs.
It's about the resurrection ofChrist.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I saw a great meme the other day.
I don't know if it was thestone rolled away and it was
rolled on top of the Easter eggit smashed him flat.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So I love that.
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But I may not show that during the Easter.
Maybe not.
Yeah, that might be traumaticfor some.
It might be traumatic for some.
And then, of course, sunday isResurrection Sunday, where we
celebrate the pivotal point inall of human history Christ's
resurrection from the dead andhow that makes the difference in
our lives.
It changes everything it does.
So I don't debate every yearwhat I'm going to preach on.
(04:44):
I don't have to try to be realclever and be new.
We're just going to talk aboutthe resurrection and the
difference that it makes in thegospel.
We're looking forward to allthat.
Yeah, you guys have done a goodjob of helping us with our
promotion of that with all ofour Bob's looking good out there
on social media.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
They make me look good man, sounding good man.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They make me look good.
That's hard to do.
They need a raise or something.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
That's going to be the next televangelist, no.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You might go viral.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
One of your sermon clips I might get a virus, what
that might be, it I don't know,I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't know, so, um, Trent is usually interjecting a
fun fact at this point.
Fun fact, but he's not here.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He's not here, so what are we going to do?
What?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
are we going to do?
We got to come up with a funfact Easter related.
Fun fact Easter related.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm sure you both have a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Of Easter related.
Wow, we should write back tothat.
How wise we are, trent's gone.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I have to play the part.
Yeah, you have to fill thatvoid, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So I did see a fact the other day Speaking of Easter
bunnies, chocolate Easterbunnies are very popular at
Easter time.
You get the big bunny with thehollow bunny and, however big
you get, and 78% of people whatpart of the bunny do they eat
first?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
The head.
I think it's gotta be the ears.
The ears Start with the earsYep 78%.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
eat the ears first man.
I like those.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I don't want a hollow Easter bunny.
That's so irritating, yeah, Iwant one of those Reese's Easter
bunnies and really yes, that'sgood.
It's a little flatter, but man,it's full of good peanut butter
.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh okay, Are you a Cadbury egg guy?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No and no peeps.
Those are gross.
I'm going to line your deskwith peeps.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You're going to come back and be like those are nasty
, those are gross.
I'm going to line your deskwith you.
Know you're going to come back,it's just going to be like
those are nasty.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Those are bad.
Peeps are bad.
Yeah, you know it's weird.
Okay, this is weird to me.
I think Easter is the bestholiday in the world.
Okay, I think it's tops Right,but okay, now don't at me
anybody.
But Christmas has the betterfood and the better songs.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, but Easter is better.
We need to change that up, Ithink we raided holidays not
very long ago here with Trent.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We did.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And Mr Pastor Darren, I have to tell you, I have to
expose our pastors.
They both raided.
Halloween was in their top two.
Can you believe?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
that I am anti-Halloween.
Well, I'll put it on the record.
We need some context with thatstatement.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think it was holidays that they had enjoyed
as a child.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
As a child.
Oh, I got you as a child.
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I had to expose them because I know how strongly
you feel.
I don't believe Easter was atthe top of either of our lists,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm pretty sure it was.
I think it was number one forTrent, I think.
No, no, no, oh, no, no, notEaster, sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Halloween.
Halloween, yes, yes, easter wasnot at the top for them.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Can you believe it?
Pastors at our church you gotsome work to do here, don't we?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I've been saved by grace mr pastor, darren, easter
was the number one holiday thathe enjoyed as a child.
He loved dressing up me I don'tknow, I'm just making this up.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Did you guys celebrate easter like big family
celebrations?
We?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
didn't do big family celebrations, so it was uh, um,
okay, full disclosure.
A child, I don't like gettingup early and we always went to
Easter sunrise service andpraise God, we don't do Easter
sunrise service here.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I've noted that you've never asked us to do one
of those in your time here.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So I did not enjoy that as a child.
And then a lot of times like,like my birthday would fall
around Easter or even sometimeson Easter, and that was just.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I didn't like personally you don't want to
share your birthday with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's how selfish I was as a child.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, so I guess you have to join the.
I didn't enjoy Easter.
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But man, I think, like Thanksgiving was probably
one of my favorite for Christmas.
It was just because those weremore a lot of big family
celebrations around those two.
We would go to Easter, we'd goto Sunrise Service, sometimes go
to McDonald's get breakfast, goto McDonald's get breakfast,
(09:25):
come back and then go to normalEaster Sunday church and I can't
remember if we went out to eator just went home.
I think probably a mixture ofboth.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Did mom put?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
you in the light colors and dress you up on.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Easter.
Sunday, so as a younger child,my brother and I would sometimes
have matching outfits, notseersucker, but sometimes it was
stuff like shirts that mygrandmother made and stuff like
that.
But, definitely were outfitspicked out by my mother and not
allowed to pick out my own.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I don't remember that as a kid we didn't have a lot
of cash when a lot of money whenwe.
So I don't remember us gettingspecial outfits.
I remember us wearing whateverthe best thing.
We had to go to Easter thatSunday.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I think you know again, you know they just it was
a lot of times it was likethings that my grandmother made
for us.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, made it special for you.
Cool yeah, nice.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't think there are any pictures.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I would pay $20 to see a picture 20 bucks.
I don't have very many dollars,so I would pay $20.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So when did the when?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
did the family photo at Easter become a thing?
I almost feel like that's superrecent.
Yeah, and for me anyway, likein the last four years, maybe
three years even social mediadriven, selfie kind of thing
driven.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember it as a child.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We always took like christmas photos, but easter,
yeah, I think that's a recentthing I think it's just a
component of.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's one of the times you have your entire family
together.
It's one of the times that manyAmericans actually decide to go
to church in the morning andsee their families.
So I think that's one of thereasons why we have that little
Easter wall so people can takepictures and they're Sunday,
best in their fancy little.
And that's great.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That was cool.
It's fun to see all thefamilies gather there.
Try to get lined up and gettheir pictures made.
It's fun to see all thefamilies gather there.
How to get lined up and gettheir pictures made.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, it's always a line of folks waiting patiently
in the sun to get that picture.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We're speaking a little bit about Easter this
morning.
I would like to know the topic.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Look, at Kara, redirecting us towards the topic
.
I like that.
We decided that it would beappropriate to talk about Easter
week or Passion week or Holyweek, so what actually took
place from the time Jesus cameinto Jerusalem for that last
time until crucifixion,resurrection.
(11:56):
So there's discussion, as youcompare the gospels together,
the synoptics and John, andlooking at the timeline, and so
we thought we'd just kind ofwalk through the week and just
discuss some of it and maybewhatever strikes our fancy as
we're walking through it orwhatever the Holy spirit leads
us to, we'll, we'll, we'll kindof focus on, but just kind of
walking through the events ofHoly week.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh wow, Nice.
I'm sorry, no you actuallystartled me a little bit.
I just got my wings physicallyjump.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Sorry, I wasn't expecting it to be that loud.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'm still learning how to.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay, so wow, what a great job.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I have noted, so I have not been on the last
several podcasts.
Right, I've been traveling andI haven't been around.
And Trent's gotten button,happy he is pressing lots of
buttons, he's really lots ofbuttons.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
He really has.
He's really enjoyed thosebuttons.
They're fun.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So less, is more.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I was looking through , I was like what would be
really good?
I like the charms, so that'swhat we got.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Awesome.
So typically Holy Week startswith the Sunday prior to the
crucifixion, right?
So, darren, what big eventhappens the Sunday prior to
crucifixion, this Sunday, and wecall that Palm Sunday.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
That's the Sunday that Jesus rode in to Jerusalem
on a donkey.
People were waving palmbranches throwing down their
cloaks as he was coming in andspecifically even saying things
like Hosanna, blessed is he whocomes in the name of the Lord.
(13:32):
Those are phrases that aresuper familiar.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
This was a huge procession.
I mean, these were people thathad followed Jesus towards
Jerusalem and those that heardhe was coming, kind of coming
out to meet him and convergingin this big parade.
And they're, they're.
They're waving these palmbranches, which was a sign of
respect.
They're they're throwing therobes down, which they would do
as a King came in and comesthrough Right Cause exactly.
They couldn't throw themselveson the ground, so they would
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throw their robes on the ground.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So this is an acknowledgement that they're,
they are recognizing jesus.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Hosanna, save us right, god, save us.
God, save us right.
Exactly so this is a time, oneof the few times, when jesus
allows this type of worship totakes place right.
So it's a, it's a time ofdeclaration he's come to be the
messiah right, right.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's interesting.
What, what do you think wasgoing through the people's minds
when they were saying Hosanna,god, save us.
What were they asking to?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
be saved from Sure Rome.
Probably, specifically, they'relooking for this earthly
Messiah to come and reestablisha kingdom, to be much like Moses
had been and deliver them fromthe bondage that they had been
in.
And so we see that turn.
By the end of the week, whenthat's not the Messiah that
Jesus came to be, they turnagainst him.
And by the end of the week,when that's not the Messiah that
Jesus came to be, they turnagainst him.
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And by the end of the week,some of the same crowd is.
Who had been shouting Hosannais now shouting crucify him.
You're not the Messiah we want.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And they were looking for a savior from Rome, but
what they really needed was asavior from sin, and they
weren't looking for that at thatpoint.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And even how Jesus comes in.
While he's accepting worship,while he is acknowledging I am
the Messiah, he's riding in onthe foal of a donkey Right.
This had to be a ridiculouspicture.
Yeah, this tiny little animalwith a grown man sitting on the
back of it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's not a warrior's steed.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's not a white horse, it's not a Roman emperor
coming in on a parade.
He's riding the smallest littlething, unbroken by the way.
He just jumps on it and startsgoing.
But it's a statement.
It's a fulfillment of prophecyand it is a statement of what
type of Messiah he is to be.
So we're getting a weird cut inand out when we're talking.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think we just have to lean in a little bit closer.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Lean in closer.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh, there it is Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right.
So that was Sunday and thereligious leaders weren't real
thrilled about this.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
No, not excited at all.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
No, they had been trying to push Jesus aside for a
long time.
Then they tried to quiet himand now they've determined they
need to kill him.
They want to kill him Right.
And he's coming in andreceiving this praise and they
come out to him and say do younot?
Hear what they're saying.
Right, they're crying out thatyou are the messiah.
Yeah, aren't you going to tellthem to stop?
(16:12):
Exactly and he says, no, haveyou not read?
You know this is who I am.
Let the children cry out.
So, it's one of the few timeswhen he accepts this worship and
then he confronts them and saysthis is this is what it is.
This is reality, deal with it.
Yeah, all right, so that'sthat's kind of Sunday, yep, and
(16:36):
that's a big celebration.
Then we get to Monday, right,so the the the a Monday, right,
so the second day of the week,and he goes towards Jerusalem,
right, he probably stays out inBethany overnight, which is
about two miles south ofJerusalem, and he's probably
staying there for a few daysaround the Passover meal and all
that, and as he goes intoJerusalem he heads towards the
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temple, and so on Monday hespends most of his time there.
And when he gets there, whatdoes he find?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, not what he wants.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He finds what he's expecting, but he's not finding
what he's wanting Right, and sohe goes to the temple and
instead of people worshiping andpraying as they should, instead
of the nations being welcomedin, he sees money changers Right
.
He sees people taking advantageof others.
He sees people making it harderfor people to come to God, not
(17:28):
easier for them to come to God,people throwing up obstacles.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So this is always an interesting topic.
Just maybe a little side note.
But so should we not be sellingthings in church?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I don't think that's the point, but I think we have
to be careful, but I don't thinkthat's the primary point.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Right, right, yeah.
What were the money changersdoing?
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
They were forcing people to exchange their coinage
for the temple coinage makingmoney off of that process taking
advantage of people who arecoming to genuinely offer
sacrifices and taking advantageof that, thus making it much
more difficult for people tocome to God.
So Jesus does not find thisacceptable.
So he, in a display ofrighteous anger, he overturns
(18:19):
those tables and says you know,you've turned what should be a
house of prayer into a den ofthieves, Right?
So, uh, this is twice.
He does this twice.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
This is the second time he's done this, Um, the
first time.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He does it at the very beginning of his ministry
and we believe he does it hereat the at the second time and I
think he goes and he does thisintentionally.
This isn't a random act.
I don't think it was aspontaneous act.
I think he goes and he doesthis intentionally.
This isn't a random act.
I don't think it was aspontaneous act.
I think he's doing thisintentionally, right.
I think he knew, like you said,he knew what he would find there
and and this is his response toit- Right, he knows where
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Friday is leading, he knowswhat's coming up on Friday and
he's going to make sure that hegets there, and so I've always
interpreted this as him pokingthe bear.
Yeah, exactly, he, he.
And he wants to infuriate thereligious leaders enough that
they have to act in such afashion that it leads to the
cross.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right, that's.
I think that's really good.
I think just a maybe adevotional thought from that
I've always had is just, youknow, as you go through Holy
Week, you think about PalmSunday and the worship that is
due Christ and just falling downat his feet saying God, save us
.
You're like I can't save myselfand then going and seeing him
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in a sense cleanse the templeagain, right, overturning the
tables and as believers we'retemples of the Holy Spirit.
I think it's a good time tothink about cleansing our temple
right.
Cleansing, you know, justspending time in prayer,
spending time confessing andjust asking God to examine our
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hearts and maybe even to disruptour lives a little bit.
I mean, he's, he's disruptingthe scene there.
I mean that that those moneychangers had gone there, you
know, week after week, and havedone it.
We're continuing to do whatthey'd always done and Jesus
comes in disrupts everything.
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And I think it's a time that wecan maybe step back and ask him
to disrupt our life a little bit.
What am I continuing to do,lord, that's not pleasing to you
?
How am I hindering other peoplefrom coming and seeing who you
really are, you know?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
so, thinking about just uh, just like said
devotionally a little bit yeah,we always think of jesus as the
one who brings peace and calm,and that's true, he does but he
also at times needs to shake usup and to get to that peace and
calm, we need to.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We need our tables turned over a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We do.
Yeah, exactly to get, to getback to what he's called us to
be and do I have?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
the turntables have turned.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He also, as he's going into the temple that day.
You may remember there's a figtree that he goes by and he goes
up to get some figs off of itand he finds that it's barren
Right and he curses the tree.
Yeah, and his disciples arelike what was that all about?
What's that all about?
It's like it's not doing whatit's supposed to be doing
Exactly, and it is notfulfilling its purpose, right,
(21:27):
and so another devotionalthought there.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You have a purpose to fulfill, don't not fulfill your
purpose Right and don't dosomething else.
You know again don't be takingadvantage of people you know.
In this scenario, let's nothinder people from coming to
worship.
Let's do everything that we canto point people to the Messiah.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and it's a worthwhile question for churches
to ask themselves Are we makingit easier for people to come to
Christ or do we putunintentional obstacles
sometimes?
Sometimes they're intentional,but hopefully they're
unintentional.
Do we put unintentionalobstacles in the way that make
it harder for people to see thetruth of the gospel?
Yeah, yeah, excuse me All right, so we got to keep moving.
(22:12):
Carrie, you got to keep usrolling because we'll bog down
on every day, if you don't.
So Tuesday he's already gone.
He's poked the bear.
On Monday he's overturned themoney changers tables and on
Tuesday he has a day where hereally just kind of dukes it out
with the Pharisees.
He just goes.
It's no hold barred, it's not ahow to win friends and
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influence people, kind ofconfrontation, it is this is the
way it is the words get sharp,the conversation gets tough,
yeah.
This is where he confronts thePharisees, and he and he says
woe unto you, whoa, whoa, whoa,I think seven times.
So it's a day of confrontation.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It probably you know tells them the parable of the
tenants during that day you knowand and you know where he.
You know he says a master has ahas a vineyard, he leases it out
to tenants.
He sends servants to go andreap, reap a harvest, and the
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people that he has leased thevineyard to beat the servants.
And eventually he sends his sonand they, they kill his son.
Right, just so prophetic Right.
And they, the Pharisees,perceive that they're talking
about that, that Jesus istalking about them and he's,
he's telling them what's gettingready to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, what is?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
happening.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, you've.
You've stoned the prophets,you've killed my servants,
you've persecutedoned theprophets, you've killed my
servants, you've persecuted mypeople and now you're going to
crucify me.
You are rejecting you who claimto know the scriptures, are
rejecting the truth of thescriptures.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
He just spends the day calling out the religious
leaders who are supposed to bemaking it easier.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
They're supposed to be the mediators grabbing people
by the hand and bringing themto God, and they are not doing
that and they're hindering.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, they're teaching a false gospel.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And so he confronts them.
He also spends time in what'sknown as the Olivet Discourse,
where he's just spending sometime with his disciples.
They come out of the temple andsome of his disciples note just
the enormity of the buildingsand how beautiful they are and
how marvelous and how you know,just awe-inspiring they are in
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their structure.
And Jesus says I promise you,there's coming a day when not a
stone's going to be left on topof one another here.
And they're like when is thatgoing to happen?
What could possibly cause thatto happen?
And he goes into this wonderfuldiscourse about how one day
he's going to return and set allthings right.
He's going to returntriumphantly, and so he spends
quite a bit of time sharing withthem about not what's going to
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happen that week, but what'sgoing to happen down the line.
This week is going to be rough.
We're going to the cross, makeno mistake about it.
But in the future.
It gives them hope to lookforward to what you see here
fails in comparison to what'scoming in the future.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
These are shadows and we're looking forward to the
substance Exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So any day this week would have been an interesting
day to spend with Jesus, butjust him confronting and
consoling and teaching hisdisciples and the Pharisees that
spending time preparing them,yeah Right, for what's getting
ready to happen, cause I stilldidn't fully.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, he told them several times over and over but
they still don't know.
They just can't picture whathe's talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
They can't grasp it, they cannot wrap their human
minds around.
Okay, you're the Messiah,you're the Son of God, you're
going to die.
They cannot accept it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Even though it's foretold in Scripture, and he's
told them many times.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
He's told them we're going to Jerusalem and this is
what's going to happen, and theystill could not wrap their
heads around it.
Because they didn't want to.
Yeah, because they didn't wantto.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
All right, so Wednesday let's keep moving
unless you had something else on.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Tuesday.
It's good All right, what, what, what about Wednesday?
What's what's going on there?
Fun fact.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Maybe what was what has Wednesday been known at?
What was it called early inmaybe some early church history?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh, I can only think of what it's called.
Now I'm dead.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I don't think they called it that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
They probably felt that I was like is there a camel
in this story?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It was called Spy Day Spy.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Wednesday Spy Wednesday.
Really, I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What happened on Spy Wednesday.
What happened on Spy.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Wednesday.
Well, it was really kind of adown day.
It was a day where Jesusprobably stayed in Bethany most
of the day just kind of relaxingwith his disciples.
There's a party thrown in hishonor at a guy named Simon's
house.
I'm actually preaching on thistext this Sunday, so I'm kind of
I know a little bit.
You know I'm kind of jazzedabout this section here, um, but
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they throw a party for him atSimon's house.
Uh, a former leper, um, and youwould think you know if, if
you're having dinner at a guywho used to be a leper, he's the
star of the show, but he's notbecause sitting at the table is
not only this guy that was aleper, but a guy named Lazarus
is also there and he's like oh,you had leprosy, oh yeah.
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Well, I dead and Jesus raised meback.
So these two guys are sittingat this table and they're,
they're.
They're having a party withJesus.
They're just celebrating Jesus,and there's two sisters there.
It's probably their home right?
They're?
They're probably related toSimon somehow.
Um, and we've met these sistersbefore.
Mary and Martha.
Yeah, Good friends of Jesus,Lazarus's sisters.
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Martha is serving the meal.
She's busy.
She's busy, as she has alwaysbeen.
This is her nature.
She serves Jesus by servingExactly, but Mary is once again.
We find Mary at his feet youknow, and she takes this jar of
perfume and breaks it and justpours it over Jesus in this act
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of extravagant worship.
Yes, and his disciples, led byJudas, scorn her and scold her
and say that's a year's worth ofmoney that we could have taken
and used for something else.
And Jesus defends her.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Right, right, Everywhere this gospel is told.
We're going to talk about this.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Exactly and leave her alone.
She's doing what she can andshe's doing what's right.
You're always going to have thepoor with you.
Now, he's not saying weshouldn't take care of the poor.
He's saying I'm here now andthere's a short period of time
and she unlike, unlike youpeople understands what's about
to happen.
And she's just anointed me formy own burial, and so it's just
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an incredible act of worshipthat takes place that day.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
This worship kind of reminds me when, when David was
looking for a home for the ark,you know, and and I can't
remember the guy's name Gosh,it's slipping open, maybe, yeah,
but anyway, he, he, he wants togive David the Austin and give
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David the threshing floor.
And David says I will notworship my God with something
that costs me nothing.
Exactly Right, and worship isshould, should be true.
Worship is costly.
It costs us something, not justmonetarily, but it costs us
something spiritually.
It costs us our pride, it costsus sometimes our agenda.
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But yeah, worship should becostly.
It's a sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Right, and it shouldn't.
When somebody genuinelyworships God in an extravagant
way, our response should not bethe response of the disciples.
We look down on them and gosomething's wrong with you.
That's not normal.
Well, it should be normal.
Extravagant worship should benormal.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That should be the normal thing right.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And Mark and John in their gospospels draw a contrast
between Mary, who does thisextravagant worship and says
this is what Jesus is worth tome, and Judas, who is berating
her for taking this perfumewhich could have been sold and
he claims it could have beenused to give to the poor.
But John tells us he reallywanted it because he was holding
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the coffers and he could stealfrom it.
He would help himself.
So Mary's looking at Jesus.
What can I do for the one whohas raised my brother from the
dead and saved me?
And Judas is looking at Jesusof what can you give to?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
me.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And what a contrast that is in how to follow Jesus.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Even more so.
What does Judas decide to doLike right?
I mean, at that point, satanenters him and he decides to
betray Christ.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Nobody had to pursue him.
He went and found ways to uh tobetray his brother, his brother
.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So Jesus is then.
At that time Judas goes out toaccept the bribe, the 30 pieces
of silver To arrange for therest of Christ.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Just kind of a thought too.
Just, man, you can be veryclose.
Judas was with Jesus For threeyears.
Yeah, you can be very close tothe things of Christ and not
know him.
You can be a church member evenand not know Christ.
It's just a good thought, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
He heard the same teachings, he saw the same
miracles.
He just closed his heart.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You can be close to the things of God, but not close
to God.
Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So was that on Wednesday?
That was Wednesday, yep, solook at her redirecting close to
God Good stuff.
So was that on Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
That was Wednesday, yep, so look at her redirecting
us once again.
Good job Now.
Moving on to Thursday.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Thursday is a extremely busy day right, you
guys probably know this one.
Another fun fact what'sThursday called Maundy Thursday?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
That's an old, that's an older phrase.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It's still around some.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
What's it called one more time Maundy Thursday, so
Monday.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Not Monday, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
M-A-U-N-D-Y.
Okay, look it up.
Yeah, I will Google it.
That's what I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
If only there was a way to know what that meant.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Only we could find the definition Maundy Thursday.
What is Maundy Thursday andwhat does it mean?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Tell us.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Maundy means the ceremony of washing the feet of
the poor, especiallycommemorating Jesus' washing of
his disciples' feet on MaundyThursday.
Look at that Maundy, maundy,disciples' feet on Maundy.
Thursday.
Look at that Maundy, maundy.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Maundy not.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Monday Maundy, maundy .
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Maundy, yeah, maundy, thursday Maundy.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Thursday.
So the whole week in Jerusalemis teeming with people because
it's Passover week.
Yeah, it's the festival whereGod has commanded the nation of
Israel to remember that he hasdelivered them from slavery in
Egypt with a Passover lamb thatwas sacrificed, and at the end
of the week they take lambs,they sacrifice them, they have
this big meal together,remembering what God has done
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for them.
So the whole week is pointingtowards that time and typically
those lambs are sacrificedmid-afternoon on Friday, about
three o'clock, and then thefamily has the meal.
Jesus knows he's going to besacrificed at three o'clock on
Friday.
He is the lamb of God who'scome to take away the sins of
the world.
He's going to fulfill thePassover.
So on Thursday he goes to hisdisciples and he says I want you
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to prepare the Passover mealtonight.
I want to just have this onelast meal with you.
So he sends them into the cityand he's already made
preparations, either in advanceor divinely and there's a room
set up for him and so that heobserves one last Passover meal
with his disciples and there hewashes their feet, talks about
the kind of Messiah he's goingto be I've come to be a servant.
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If you're going to follow me,this is what you need to do as
well Takes the elements of thePassover meal and institutes
what we now call the Lord'sSupper.
You know, this is my bodybroken for you.
This is my blood poured out foryou.
So he connects the dots for him.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And I think too, when you think I mean obviously it's
an example for you he says I'vedone, see what I've done.
You turn and do this likewise.
I've done, you turn and do thislikewise, right, and he's
telling.
I mean he's basically, before hedoes that he's telling them the
gospel, you know, and he's likewe said, he's fulfilling the
Passover and I think when wethink of serving others, when we
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think of serving others, wethink about, you know, maybe
doing physical things for them,and I think that's a good way to
serve people.
But Jesus is doing what onlythe lowest of the servants would
do.
And Peter says you would washmy feet?
No, not a chance.
And Jesus' response to Peter isI don't wash you, you have no
part of me.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And so Peter's response back to Christ is then
wash everything?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, don't wash all of me right, and I think that's
what we need to take away fromthat.
The way that we serve peoplebest is by sharing the gospel,
so they can be totally cleansed,right?
I think the physical thingsthat we do are important, and we
should do those things only asa bridge or an avenue to share
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with them what will give themtrue life.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yep, that's what we're here for.
Yeah, that's what we're calledto do.
That's what.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Christ is getting ready to do Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
So they have the Passover meal together.
Jesus reveals that one of themis going to betray them.
They don't know who it is.
They're all questioning it.
Could it be me?
Could it be me?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Even.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Judas says, is it me Exactly?
But he leaves and he goes tobetray Jesus.
He goes to set it up because heknows where Jesus is going next
.
Jesus has revealed okay, afterthis we're going to go out to
the garden, probably a patternfor him of prayer.
And so after the Passover meal,after the institution of the
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Lord's Supper, they do go out tothe garden and Jesus takes the
disciples with him.
But then he takes some of thedisciples further into the
garden it's kind of his innercircle and tells them stay here
and pray while I go in a littlebit further.
And then he goes in and praysthe famous prayer that we're
familiar with Father, if there'sany way for this cup to pass,
nevertheless, not my will, butyours and he earnestly prays.
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He's feeling the weight of hismission.
At that point, I think healways felt the weight of the
mission, but now he knows thetime has come.
Yeah, yeah, it's no longer.
My time has not yet come, it's.
It's upon him.
Right, and I don't think thecup that he's talking about is
the pain of the cross.
No, I personally think it's thewrath of God.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The cup that he's going to drink is the wrath of.
God.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And he's going to be separated from his father for
the very first time and he'slike if there's any other way,
but nevertheless.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And think about that.
I mean think how much anguishthat caused Christ to think
about being separated from God.
Yeah, does that cause me thatkind of anguish?
Yes, god, does that cause methat kind of anguish?
Yes, unfortunately, some days Icould say it doesn't cost me.
I don't think of it that way.
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Sometimes I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
He was so torn over it, sweating so intensely it's
as if he was sweat drops ofblood I mean, it was an
emotional thing and he goes backand finds the other disciples
fast asleep, yeah in the exactopposite posture.
Could you not stay awake withme for just a little while?
And they didn't see thenecessity for it.
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They didn't sense the timingand the desperation.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And I think it's another good thought is like man
, are we as we wait Christ'sreturn?
What are we doing with thatweight?
Are we sleep at the wheel alittle bit?
Are we too comfortable, or arewe being diligent, being alert?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
If Jesus needed to pray, howmuch more do we need to?
Yeah, right, so while he'stalking to his disciples and
this goes back and forth acouple times but while he's
talking to his disciples, herecomes Judas, leading this cohort
of mob of the Jewish religiousleaders and probably a temple
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guard, temple guard Coming toarrest Jesus.
And Jesus says what are youdoing?
I've been in the temple everyday.
Why are you coming at nightwith these sticks and these
swords?
What's your problem?
And some of the disciples tryto get all uppity and Peter
grabs a sword.
And he's a fisherman, he's nota swordsman.
So, he cuts off Malchus's earand Jesus heals his ear and they
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still arrest them.
They arrest Jesus and hisdisciples scatter.
I mean it's gone.
It's like the lights androaches.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
They are gone and they haul Jesus off to the high
priest's house.
John follows at a distance, I'msorry.
Peter follows at a distance,not John.
Peter follows at a distance,and that'm sorry.
Peter follows at a distance,not John.
Peter follows at a distance,and that's where he ends up in
the courtyard and denies knowingJesus, Even though earlier he
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said you are the Christ, the Sonof the living God.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I'll tell you one thing that's stuck with me from
some of your preaching.
I can't remember what passage,I can't remember when it was,
but I just remember youpreaching about this, and just
the one thing.
I just made a note in my Bible.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Peter was warming himself at the wrong fires.
When you follow Jesus at adistance, you're going to get
cold, and when you get coldyou're going to have to warm
yourself somewhere.
And sometimes you warm yourselfat the wrong fire and we find
that Luke 22, I believe is isthat passage.
So yeah, so Jesus has now beenarrested.
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He's hauled off in the middleof the night to these sham sham
illegal trials?
They're not allowed to meet atnight and do these things, and
now we've kind of transitionedfrom Thursday to Friday, yeah,
yeah, cause we're in the middleof the night at this point, and
so the middle of the night he'staken to Caiaphas, then to the
early morning hours he's takento Pilate.
(40:34):
Yeah, sorry, I threw you off byasking the question.
So he's taken to Pilate becausethey've condemned him to death,
but they don't have theauthority to do it.
So the religious leaders have totake him to the Roman leader
and Pilate interviews Jesus andmultiple times says this guy's
innocent.
He tries to let him go.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
He does, he tries to.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
He finds out that he's from you know, living in
Galilee.
So he sends him to Her, whohappened to be in town for the
festival as well.
Herod tries to make a mockeryof him and sends him back to
Pilate.
Pilate again tries to releasehim.
His wife comes in and says havenothing to do with this guy
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
But all this is fulfilling scripture.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
All these things are fulfilling prophecy it is, but
Pilate's on his last stand withthe Romans.
He's already been in trouble.
He's got one more strike leftand then it's not the end of his
job, it's the end of his life,and so he knows this.
This is hanging over him, andhe would rather condemn an
innocent man than allow a riotto take place in Jerusalem that
day.
And so the Jewish leaders knowthat They've got him between a
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rock and a hard place and hecaves and he at first.
He tries to have him scourgedas as Jesus, beaten within an
inch of his life.
In fact, the beating he tookprobably would have killed.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, that's amazing that he survives that.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, it was just atrocious and he thought well,
I'll bring them back up, they'llsee this and they'll have
compassion and they'll let themgo.
What do you want me to do withJesus?
Crucify, crucify.
I'll give you an option,barabbas, you can release one of
these.
You have a custom here.
Which one do you want me torelease?
(42:12):
This hardened criminal or thispoor beaten up guy who's done
nothing?
The?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
human condition will always choose death.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yes, and the human condition will always choose
death.
Yes, we just will.
The broken heart, yeah.
So he's led off at that pointto crucifixion.
He's on the cross for a fewhours, which is extremely short
period of time for death on across, and he's crucified.
And we won't go into all thedetails of the crucifixion today
(42:42):
, but roughly about threeo'clock he's on the cross dying
the same time that the lambs arebeing taken to the temple to be
sacrificed, and this is notcoincidence.
This is God's timing.
He prays that God would forgivethose.
They don't know what they'redoing.
Right, he takes care of hismother on the cross.
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Uh, he offers salvation to oneof the one of the thieves, one
of the thieves which is, by theway, is to me one of the
greatest statements of faith inall of scripture.
The thief on the cross next tohim, placing his faith into a
dying man, someone who's dying,yeah, the cross next to him
placing his faith into a dyingman and to someone who's dying,
yeah, and there's a whole lot oftheology we could unpack there.
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But Jesus commends his spiritand then he literally dies.
He doesn't fall asleep, hedoesn't pass out, no swooning.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
No swooning.
He dies and I think it'simportant to say that he lays
his life down.
Yes, he gives his life down, hegives his life up.
No one takes it from him.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Exactly, Exactly.
And in the midst of thatthere's darkness.
In the middle of the day, thetemple, the veil in the temple
that separates the holy ofholies top to bottom is torn
asunder.
God has accepted Jesus'sacrifice and made a way for us
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to come into his presence.
He's removed the obstacles.
He's removed the obstacles.
They take Jesus down.
They put him in a borrowedgrave Because he's not going to
need it for long.
No, he's not.
He's not going to need it forlong.
But they have to do it bysunset because Saturday's coming
, the Sabbath is coming, andthey can't do it after that.
So they rush him in and theyput these spices on him and they
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roll this giant stone in.
They're worried, the Romanauthorities are worried that
somebody's going to come stealthe body and claim the Pharisees
are worried, right.
So they ask Pilate to set aguard over the tomb, they seal
the tomb with his symbol andthey put a guard on it.
And on Saturday, Jesus is inthe tomb.
We can discuss all the otherstuff, that's probably going on
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in that period of time.
Jesus is dead and he's in thetomb.
At that point, he's declaringvictory, though at some point I
think it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
There's a famous sermon out there.
You know it's Friday, butSunday's coming right and that's
exciting and it's hopeful.
But I think Saturday's aninteresting day because there's
just not much going on.
There's nothing going on,there's not.
And so what are the disciplesthinking?
Going on, there's not.
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And so what are the disciplesthinking?
You know it's a day of waitingand hoping and praying and
confusion, right.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, a day of defeat for them.
Yeah, because if they, didn'tbelieve he was going to die.
Could they possibly havebelieved that he was actually
going to come back, like he saidhe was?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Were they thinking about what he had told them he
had?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
told them that he would, but they didn't believe
that he was going to die.
So I think they're defeatedwhen he does resurrect and he
meets two of them on the road toEmmaus.
They're distraught.
They're like we thought he wasgoing to be the one and now he's
gone.
So I think they're in hidingbecause they're afraid what
happened to him is going tohappen to them and they're
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defeated.
They thought, hey man, wehitched our wagon to the wrong,
you know our horse to the wrongwagon or whatever that phrase
goes or rag into the wrong horse.
So they're defeated, but it's.
Friday but Sunday's coming.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
So what do we do?
I think just a thought is whatdo we do with the wait?
Because we know that he'sascended to heaven now and he
says he's going to return.
And we've just been throughsecond peter in our uh, in our
core groups not very long ago,and the false teaching that was
going around is there's thisdoubt about christ coming back.
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And and we can't live in defeatof that thought we know that
he's coming back and hispatience is counted as salvation
for others.
And so just what do we do withour Saturday?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
if you will.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
What do we do while we're waiting for him to return?
Do we need to run and hide, ordo we need to be diligent and
aware and in prayer, yeah,sharing the gospel, should the
disciples have been out sayinghey, wait, till tomorrow, wait.
Yeah, wait until tomorrow, hesaid, he said.
He said in three days, exactly,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
So should we not have that same attitude?
Are we living a defeatistattitude?
Instead of hey, he's comingback, yeah, he.
Instead of hey, he's comingback, he's coming back.
So Sunday morning, the ladiesget up early before the sun
comes up, so that they can bethere just in time Sabbath ends
as the sun rises, and so theycan now prepare his body
properly and they're talkingwith one another.
How can we open this tomb?
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The stone is too big.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
And when they get there, who's?
Speaker 1 (47:35):
going to roll it away , and it's not a problem when
they get there, because thestones roll away, to roll it
away, and that's it's not aproblem when they get there,
because the stones roll away.
Someone's done it Now.
The stone wasn't rolled away tolet Jesus out, it was to let
them in Right, so Jesus didn'tneed the stone rolled away.
He, he's.
He's resurrected.
Christ has been risen.
The father has raised him,having accepted his sacrifice.
Um, and he is alive.
He's God, amen, he's good.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
What does that?
I mean what?
What are, just real quickly,what would be some of the
implications in our life of theresurrection?
I mean it's hard to do thatquick, it is.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I would encourage everybody to read first
Corinthians 15, right.
Yeah, yeah, just um, it's a.
It's the passage that dealswith the resurrection.
If you have doubts about theresurrection, if you have
questions about the timing orwhy the resurrection is
important, it is the pivot pointof human history, it is the
pinnacle of our salvationHistory is divided by that.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I know they're trying to change BC whatever, but it's
.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
BC and AD man.
Yes, exactly.
And it is divided by theresurrection, christ's victory
over sin, over death.
He is the first fruits of theresurrection.
Because he has been resurrected, we can have new life right.
Because he was raised.
We can be raised right.
If he hasn't been raised andwe're still dead in our
trespasses and sins.
We should be pitied above,above every other person.
(48:54):
But he has been resurrected andbecause he has, we can have new
life as well.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Proves that he is who he said he was.
Proves that the sacrifice wasaccepted and sufficient, and he
lives now, to intercede for usforevermore, to the uttermost.
So many things we could talkabout.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
And he appears to multiple people.
It's not just like Mary and acouple other ladies.
He appears to disciples, heappears to over 500 people.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yes and yeah he's around about 40 days after the
resurrection like you said,appearing to people, and this
isn't wish-filled thinking.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
This is historic truth that can be verified.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Eyewitness corroboration.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Absolutely that Jesus is alive, so we'll celebrate
that.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
That's what Easter week.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Holy Week, passion Week, is all about A little
sneak peek, a little sneak peek,but I know we've probably gone
on a little longer than wenormally do.
But we just wanted to kind ofwalk through the week and just
kind of set our minds.
Hopefully this will come out,maybe Monday, and it'll help us
just kind of set our minds forthe week as we get ready towards
Resurrection Sunday.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Fantastic.
Yeah, thanks for letting me bea part.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Thanks for being here , old guy.
You're almost as old as me.
I'm close, Tara thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Appreciate it Of course it was a great episode.
I think a lot of the timesgoing into Easter week or Holy
Week, I'm thinking like how canI prepare my heart?
And I like what you said justabout how worship is costly.
So I'm thinking, not about theway that the disciples were
necessarily acting, but the waythat Jesus was preparing for
that week.
I guess is, yeah, that's verygood stuff.
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Thank you, guys both for forsharing.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Absolutely Right.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
We'll see you guys soon, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Bye.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Have a great time.
Hello everyone, Welcome back to the Unsexy
Church podcast.
It is good to be back with you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello Kara, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm doing very well.
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, good, good, it's good to have you once again in
the studio with us.
Yes, we are joined by ourdistinguished colleague.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Darren.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Selvidge.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Who is this?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Distinguished.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
D-Dog is with us today Also known as Mr Pastor
Darren.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Sir, yes, by many.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So our podcast has gotten older today, so the two
elder members of the staff arehere together.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Elder- members of the staff are here together.
Elder members yes.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The elder members, the wise ones the wise ones, the
ones with the most gray hair.
There you go, we just thoughtwe'd get that out of the way,
out of the front, before someonecomments about old guys on
podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Would I have done that?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, we're going to be like you remember the Muppet
show, the two?
You remember the Muppet Show,the two guys up in the balcony,
those?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
guys' names Wilford and.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Waldorf or something.
Yeah, we're going to be likethose guys today.
Perfect, it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It will be so much fun it will be Trent is not with
us today.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
He has just gotten back from a trip to Knoxville
where he is purchasing his home,and he's out at the BCM today,
and so we're recording this on aThursday morning, so he's not
with us, so it's just the threeof us today.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It is exciting we can do whatever we want.
We've like taken over thepodcast.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We have.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's in your clutches , Pastor Rob.
What are you going to do withit?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We can do as much lively banter Old guys banter or
as little guys rule.
That's right, that's right.
So it is the week prior toEaster this week.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So a lot of preparations going on, anything
going on, a worship ministrywise, getting ready for Easter
all kinds of stuff going on.
I heard you guys rehearsinglast night.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yep, we are rehearsing uh well, you know,
for Sunday morning, for a goodFriday uh service at at noon.
We've added quite a fewinstruments to the mix compared
to what we would normally have,and so, and a few more songs at
what we would normally do on aSunday, and so, man, we're,
(02:17):
we're in the thick of it, we'rein the pull your hair out.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You're not in the weeds, though, right, not in the
weeds.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
No we we know where we're going.
Okay, all right, just not surewe're going to get there.
That's the stage we're in.
No, I'm actually.
I think I feel a little moreprepared than normal.
I don't know if it's becauseEaster is so late.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, you guys always do an amazing job.
Yeah, just using your talentsand letting God take it for his
glory.
Got a great team.
Got a great team.
We are blessed, we are blessed,so we do have a busy schedule
next weekend around ResurrectionSunday.
So Good Friday.
You mentioned our Good Fridayservice that's become a
tradition for us at noon on GoodFriday just to pause and have a
(02:56):
simple reflective time oflooking at the cross and
remembering the price thatChrist paid for our salvation.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That's one of my favorite services Just a good
time to reflect, good time ofworship and a more, you know,
just a more serious time.
Not that we are not serious allthe time.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Not like our services are frivolous, otherwise Right
right Our services are veryunsexy, right, that's right.
That's right.
That's right, but it is.
It's just kind of a I don'tknow a slowed down kind of just
vibe to it and just a reflectivetime and usually about 45
minutes, cause we do it at lunchhour in case somebody can break
(03:36):
away from lunch at work andcome join us.
So that's a good time.
Uh, saturday we'll have thepreschool egg hunt, which is
always exciting to see youngfamilies running around with
little ones.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I always see people that I have not met or don't
even go to our church.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It's a good time.
It is a good time.
It's a good time to meet thosefamilies, like you say, and just
see the little kids runningaround.
It's an opportunity that Oliviauses to share the gospel even
with the little ones.
What's Easter really all about?
It's not just these eggs.
It's about the resurrection ofChrist.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I saw a great meme the other day.
I don't know if it was thestone rolled away and it was
rolled on top of the Easter eggit smashed him flat.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So I love that.
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But I may not show that during the Easter.
Maybe not.
Yeah, that might be traumaticfor some.
It might be traumatic for some.
And then, of course, sunday isResurrection Sunday, where we
celebrate the pivotal point inall of human history Christ's
resurrection from the dead andhow that makes the difference in
our lives.
It changes everything it does.
So I don't debate every yearwhat I'm going to preach on.
(04:44):
I don't have to try to be realclever and be new.
We're just going to talk aboutthe resurrection and the
difference that it makes in thegospel.
We're looking forward to allthat.
Yeah, you guys have done a goodjob of helping us with our
promotion of that with all ofour Bob's looking good out there
on social media.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
They make me look good man, sounding good man.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They make me look good.
That's hard to do.
They need a raise or something.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
That's going to be the next televangelist, no.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You might go viral.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
One of your sermon clips I might get a virus, what
that might be, it I don't know,I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't know, so, um, Trent is usually interjecting a
fun fact at this point.
Fun fact, but he's not here.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He's not here, so what are we going to do?
What?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
are we going to do?
We got to come up with a funfact Easter related.
Fun fact Easter related.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm sure you both have a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Of Easter related.
Wow, we should write back tothat.
How wise we are, trent's gone.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I have to play the part.
Yeah, you have to fill thatvoid, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So I did see a fact the other day Speaking of Easter
bunnies, chocolate Easterbunnies are very popular at
Easter time.
You get the big bunny with thehollow bunny and, however big
you get, and 78% of people whatpart of the bunny do they eat
first?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
The head.
I think it's gotta be the ears.
The ears Start with the earsYep 78%.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
eat the ears first man.
I like those.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I don't want a hollow Easter bunny.
That's so irritating, yeah, Iwant one of those Reese's Easter
bunnies and really yes, that'sgood.
It's a little flatter, but man,it's full of good peanut butter
.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh okay, Are you a Cadbury egg guy?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No and no peeps.
Those are gross.
I'm going to line your deskwith peeps.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You're going to come back and be like those are nasty
, those are gross.
I'm going to line your deskwith you.
Know you're going to come back,it's just going to be like
those are nasty.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Those are bad.
Peeps are bad.
Yeah, you know it's weird.
Okay, this is weird to me.
I think Easter is the bestholiday in the world.
Okay, I think it's tops Right,but okay, now don't at me
anybody.
But Christmas has the betterfood and the better songs.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, but Easter is better.
We need to change that up, Ithink we raided holidays not
very long ago here with Trent.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We did.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And Mr Pastor Darren, I have to tell you, I have to
expose our pastors.
They both raided.
Halloween was in their top two.
Can you believe?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
that I am anti-Halloween.
Well, I'll put it on the record.
We need some context with thatstatement.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think it was holidays that they had enjoyed
as a child.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
As a child.
Oh, I got you as a child.
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I had to expose them because I know how strongly
you feel.
I don't believe Easter was atthe top of either of our lists,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm pretty sure it was.
I think it was number one forTrent, I think.
No, no, no, oh, no, no, notEaster, sorry.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Halloween.
Halloween, yes, yes, easter wasnot at the top for them.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Can you believe it?
Pastors at our church you gotsome work to do here, don't we?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I've been saved by grace mr pastor, darren, easter
was the number one holiday thathe enjoyed as a child.
He loved dressing up me I don'tknow, I'm just making this up.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Did you guys celebrate easter like big family
celebrations?
We?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
didn't do big family celebrations, so it was uh, um,
okay, full disclosure.
A child, I don't like gettingup early and we always went to
Easter sunrise service andpraise God, we don't do Easter
sunrise service here.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I've noted that you've never asked us to do one
of those in your time here.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So I did not enjoy that as a child.
And then a lot of times like,like my birthday would fall
around Easter or even sometimeson Easter, and that was just.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I didn't like personally you don't want to
share your birthday with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's how selfish I was as a child.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, so I guess you have to join the.
I didn't enjoy Easter.
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But man, I think, like Thanksgiving was probably
one of my favorite for Christmas.
It was just because those weremore a lot of big family
celebrations around those two.
We would go to Easter, we'd goto Sunrise Service, sometimes go
to McDonald's get breakfast, goto McDonald's get breakfast,
(09:25):
come back and then go to normalEaster Sunday church and I can't
remember if we went out to eator just went home.
I think probably a mixture ofboth.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Did mom put?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
you in the light colors and dress you up on.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Easter.
Sunday, so as a younger child,my brother and I would sometimes
have matching outfits, notseersucker, but sometimes it was
stuff like shirts that mygrandmother made and stuff like
that.
But, definitely were outfitspicked out by my mother and not
allowed to pick out my own.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I don't remember that as a kid we didn't have a lot
of cash when a lot of money whenwe.
So I don't remember us gettingspecial outfits.
I remember us wearing whateverthe best thing.
We had to go to Easter thatSunday.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I think you know again, you know they just it was
a lot of times it was likethings that my grandmother made
for us.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, made it special for you.
Cool yeah, nice.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't think there are any pictures.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I would pay $20 to see a picture 20 bucks.
I don't have very many dollars,so I would pay $20.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So when did the when?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
did the family photo at Easter become a thing?
I almost feel like that's superrecent.
Yeah, and for me anyway, likein the last four years, maybe
three years even social mediadriven, selfie kind of thing
driven.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember it as a child.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
We always took like christmas photos, but easter,
yeah, I think that's a recentthing I think it's just a
component of.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's one of the times you have your entire family
together.
It's one of the times that manyAmericans actually decide to go
to church in the morning andsee their families.
So I think that's one of thereasons why we have that little
Easter wall so people can takepictures and they're Sunday,
best in their fancy little.
And that's great.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That was cool.
It's fun to see all thefamilies gather there.
Try to get lined up and gettheir pictures made.
It's fun to see all thefamilies gather there.
How to get lined up and gettheir pictures made.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, it's always a line of folks waiting patiently
in the sun to get that picture.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We're speaking a little bit about Easter this
morning.
I would like to know the topic.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Look, at Kara, redirecting us towards the topic
.
I like that.
We decided that it would beappropriate to talk about Easter
week or Passion week or Holyweek, so what actually took
place from the time Jesus cameinto Jerusalem for that last
time until crucifixion,resurrection.
(11:56):
So there's discussion, as youcompare the gospels together,
the synoptics and John, andlooking at the timeline, and so
we thought we'd just kind ofwalk through the week and just
discuss some of it and maybewhatever strikes our fancy as
we're walking through it orwhatever the Holy spirit leads
us to, we'll, we'll, we'll kindof focus on, but just kind of
walking through the events ofHoly week.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh wow, Nice.
I'm sorry, no you actuallystartled me a little bit.
I just got my wings physicallyjump.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Sorry, I wasn't expecting it to be that loud.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'm still learning how to.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay, so wow, what a great job.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I have noted, so I have not been on the last
several podcasts.
Right, I've been traveling andI haven't been around.
And Trent's gotten button,happy he is pressing lots of
buttons, he's really lots ofbuttons.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
He really has.
He's really enjoyed thosebuttons.
They're fun.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So less, is more.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I was looking through , I was like what would be
really good?
I like the charms, so that'swhat we got.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Awesome.
So typically Holy Week startswith the Sunday prior to the
crucifixion, right?
So, darren, what big eventhappens the Sunday prior to
crucifixion, this Sunday, and wecall that Palm Sunday.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
That's the Sunday that Jesus rode in to Jerusalem
on a donkey.
People were waving palmbranches throwing down their
cloaks as he was coming in andspecifically even saying things
like Hosanna, blessed is he whocomes in the name of the Lord.
(13:32):
Those are phrases that aresuper familiar.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
This was a huge procession.
I mean, these were people thathad followed Jesus towards
Jerusalem and those that heardhe was coming, kind of coming
out to meet him and convergingin this big parade.
And they're, they're.
They're waving these palmbranches, which was a sign of
respect.
They're they're throwing therobes down, which they would do
as a King came in and comesthrough Right Cause exactly.
They couldn't throw themselveson the ground, so they would
(13:57):
throw their robes on the ground.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So this is an acknowledgement that they're,
they are recognizing jesus.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Hosanna, save us right, god, save us.
God, save us right.
Exactly so this is a time, oneof the few times, when jesus
allows this type of worship totakes place right.
So it's a, it's a time ofdeclaration he's come to be the
messiah right, right.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's interesting.
What, what do you think wasgoing through the people's minds
when they were saying Hosanna,god, save us.
What were they asking to?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
be saved from Sure Rome.
Probably, specifically, they'relooking for this earthly
Messiah to come and reestablisha kingdom, to be much like Moses
had been and deliver them fromthe bondage that they had been
in.
And so we see that turn.
By the end of the week, whenthat's not the Messiah that
Jesus came to be, they turnagainst him.
And by the end of the week,when that's not the Messiah that
Jesus came to be, they turnagainst him.
(14:48):
And by the end of the week,some of the same crowd is.
Who had been shouting Hosannais now shouting crucify him.
You're not the Messiah we want.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And they were looking for a savior from Rome, but
what they really needed was asavior from sin, and they
weren't looking for that at thatpoint.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And even how Jesus comes in.
While he's accepting worship,while he is acknowledging I am
the Messiah, he's riding in onthe foal of a donkey Right.
This had to be a ridiculouspicture.
Yeah, this tiny little animalwith a grown man sitting on the
back of it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's not a warrior's steed.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's not a white horse, it's not a Roman emperor
coming in on a parade.
He's riding the smallest littlething, unbroken by the way.
He just jumps on it and startsgoing.
But it's a statement.
It's a fulfillment of prophecyand it is a statement of what
type of Messiah he is to be.
So we're getting a weird cut inand out when we're talking.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I think we just have to lean in a little bit closer.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Lean in closer.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Oh, there it is Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right.
So that was Sunday and thereligious leaders weren't real
thrilled about this.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
No, not excited at all.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
No, they had been trying to push Jesus aside for a
long time.
Then they tried to quiet himand now they've determined they
need to kill him.
They want to kill him Right.
And he's coming in andreceiving this praise and they
come out to him and say do younot?
Hear what they're saying.
Right, they're crying out thatyou are the messiah.
Yeah, aren't you going to tellthem to stop?
(16:12):
Exactly and he says, no, haveyou not read?
You know this is who I am.
Let the children cry out.
So, it's one of the few timeswhen he accepts this worship and
then he confronts them and saysthis is this is what it is.
This is reality, deal with it.
Yeah, all right, so that'sthat's kind of Sunday, yep, and
(16:36):
that's a big celebration.
Then we get to Monday, right,so the the the a Monday, right,
so the second day of the week,and he goes towards Jerusalem,
right, he probably stays out inBethany overnight, which is
about two miles south ofJerusalem, and he's probably
staying there for a few daysaround the Passover meal and all
that, and as he goes intoJerusalem he heads towards the
(16:57):
temple, and so on Monday hespends most of his time there.
And when he gets there, whatdoes he find?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, not what he wants.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He finds what he's expecting, but he's not finding
what he's wanting Right, and sohe goes to the temple and
instead of people worshiping andpraying as they should, instead
of the nations being welcomedin, he sees money changers Right
.
He sees people taking advantageof others.
He sees people making it harderfor people to come to God, not
(17:28):
easier for them to come to God,people throwing up obstacles.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So this is always an interesting topic.
Just maybe a little side note.
But so should we not be sellingthings in church?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I don't think that's the point, but I think we have
to be careful, but I don't thinkthat's the primary point.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Right, right, yeah.
What were the money changersdoing?
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
They were forcing people to exchange their coinage
for the temple coinage makingmoney off of that process taking
advantage of people who arecoming to genuinely offer
sacrifices and taking advantageof that, thus making it much
more difficult for people tocome to God.
So Jesus does not find thisacceptable.
So he, in a display ofrighteous anger, he overturns
(18:19):
those tables and says you know,you've turned what should be a
house of prayer into a den ofthieves, Right?
So, uh, this is twice.
He does this twice.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
This is the second time he's done this, Um, the
first time.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He does it at the very beginning of his ministry
and we believe he does it hereat the at the second time and I
think he goes and he does thisintentionally.
This isn't a random act.
I don't think it was aspontaneous act.
I think he goes and he doesthis intentionally.
This isn't a random act.
I don't think it was aspontaneous act.
I think he's doing thisintentionally, right.
I think he knew, like you said,he knew what he would find there
and and this is his response toit- Right, he knows where
(18:57):
Friday is leading, he knowswhat's coming up on Friday and
he's going to make sure that hegets there, and so I've always
interpreted this as him pokingthe bear.
Yeah, exactly, he, he.
And he wants to infuriate thereligious leaders enough that
they have to act in such afashion that it leads to the
cross.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right, that's.
I think that's really good.
I think just a maybe adevotional thought from that
I've always had is just, youknow, as you go through Holy
Week, you think about PalmSunday and the worship that is
due Christ and just falling downat his feet saying God, save us
.
You're like I can't save myselfand then going and seeing him
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in a sense cleanse the templeagain, right, overturning the
tables and as believers we'retemples of the Holy Spirit.
I think it's a good time tothink about cleansing our temple
right.
Cleansing, you know, justspending time in prayer,
spending time confessing andjust asking God to examine our
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hearts and maybe even to disruptour lives a little bit.
I mean, he's, he's disruptingthe scene there.
I mean that that those moneychangers had gone there, you
know, week after week, and havedone it.
We're continuing to do whatthey'd always done and Jesus
comes in disrupts everything.
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And I think it's a time that wecan maybe step back and ask him
to disrupt our life a little bit.
What am I continuing to do,lord, that's not pleasing to you
?
How am I hindering other peoplefrom coming and seeing who you
really are, you know?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
so, thinking about just uh, just like said
devotionally a little bit yeah,we always think of jesus as the
one who brings peace and calm,and that's true, he does but he
also at times needs to shake usup and to get to that peace and
calm, we need to.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We need our tables turned over a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We do.
Yeah, exactly to get, to getback to what he's called us to
be and do I have?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
the turntables have turned.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He also, as he's going into the temple that day.
You may remember there's a figtree that he goes by and he goes
up to get some figs off of itand he finds that it's barren
Right and he curses the tree.
Yeah, and his disciples arelike what was that all about?
What's that all about?
It's like it's not doing whatit's supposed to be doing
Exactly, and it is notfulfilling its purpose, right,
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and so another devotionalthought there.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You have a purpose to fulfill, don't not fulfill your
purpose Right and don't dosomething else.
You know again don't be takingadvantage of people you know.
In this scenario, let's nothinder people from coming to
worship.
Let's do everything that we canto point people to the Messiah.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and it's a worthwhile question for churches
to ask themselves Are we makingit easier for people to come to
Christ or do we putunintentional obstacles
sometimes?
Sometimes they're intentional,but hopefully they're
unintentional.
Do we put unintentionalobstacles in the way that make
it harder for people to see thetruth of the gospel?
Yeah, yeah, excuse me All right, so we got to keep moving.
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Carrie, you got to keep usrolling because we'll bog down
on every day, if you don't.
So Tuesday he's already gone.
He's poked the bear.
On Monday he's overturned themoney changers tables and on
Tuesday he has a day where hereally just kind of dukes it out
with the Pharisees.
He just goes.
It's no hold barred, it's not ahow to win friends and
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influence people, kind ofconfrontation, it is this is the
way it is the words get sharp,the conversation gets tough,
yeah.
This is where he confronts thePharisees, and he and he says
woe unto you, whoa, whoa, whoa,I think seven times.
So it's a day of confrontation.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It probably you know tells them the parable of the
tenants during that day you knowand and you know where he.
You know he says a master has ahas a vineyard, he leases it out
to tenants.
He sends servants to go andreap, reap a harvest, and the
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people that he has leased thevineyard to beat the servants.
And eventually he sends his sonand they, they kill his son.
Right, just so prophetic Right.
And they, the Pharisees,perceive that they're talking
about that, that Jesus istalking about them and he's,
he's telling them what's gettingready to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, what is?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
happening.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, you've.
You've stoned the prophets,you've killed my servants,
you've persecutedoned theprophets, you've killed my
servants, you've persecuted mypeople and now you're going to
crucify me.
You are rejecting you who claimto know the scriptures, are
rejecting the truth of thescriptures.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
He just spends the day calling out the religious
leaders who are supposed to bemaking it easier.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
They're supposed to be the mediators grabbing people
by the hand and bringing themto God, and they are not doing
that and they're hindering.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, they're teaching a false gospel.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And so he confronts them.
He also spends time in what'sknown as the Olivet Discourse,
where he's just spending sometime with his disciples.
They come out of the temple andsome of his disciples note just
the enormity of the buildingsand how beautiful they are and
how marvelous and how you know,just awe-inspiring they are in
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their structure.
And Jesus says I promise you,there's coming a day when not a
stone's going to be left on topof one another here.
And they're like when is thatgoing to happen?
What could possibly cause thatto happen?
And he goes into this wonderfuldiscourse about how one day
he's going to return and set allthings right.
He's going to returntriumphantly, and so he spends
quite a bit of time sharing withthem about not what's going to
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happen that week, but what'sgoing to happen down the line.
This week is going to be rough.
We're going to the cross, makeno mistake about it.
But in the future.
It gives them hope to lookforward to what you see here
fails in comparison to what'scoming in the future.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
These are shadows and we're looking forward to the
substance Exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So any day this week would have been an interesting
day to spend with Jesus, butjust him confronting and
consoling and teaching hisdisciples and the Pharisees that
spending time preparing them,yeah Right, for what's getting
ready to happen, cause I stilldidn't fully.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, he told them several times over and over but
they still don't know.
They just can't picture whathe's talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
They can't grasp it, they cannot wrap their human
minds around.
Okay, you're the Messiah,you're the Son of God, you're
going to die.
They cannot accept it.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Even though it's foretold in Scripture, and he's
told them many times.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
He's told them we're going to Jerusalem and this is
what's going to happen, and theystill could not wrap their
heads around it.
Because they didn't want to.
Yeah, because they didn't wantto.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
All right, so Wednesday let's keep moving
unless you had something else on.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Tuesday.
It's good All right, what, what, what about Wednesday?
What's what's going on there?
Fun fact.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Maybe what was what has Wednesday been known at?
What was it called early inmaybe some early church history?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh, I can only think of what it's called.
Now I'm dead.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I don't think they called it that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
They probably felt that I was like is there a camel
in this story?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
It was called Spy Day Spy.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Wednesday Spy Wednesday.
Really, I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What happened on Spy Wednesday.
What happened on Spy.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Wednesday.
Well, it was really kind of adown day.
It was a day where Jesusprobably stayed in Bethany most
of the day just kind of relaxingwith his disciples.
There's a party thrown in hishonor at a guy named Simon's
house.
I'm actually preaching on thistext this Sunday, so I'm kind of
I know a little bit.
You know I'm kind of jazzedabout this section here, um, but
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they throw a party for him atSimon's house.
Uh, a former leper, um, and youwould think you know if, if
you're having dinner at a guywho used to be a leper, he's the
star of the show, but he's notbecause sitting at the table is
not only this guy that was aleper, but a guy named Lazarus
is also there and he's like oh,you had leprosy, oh yeah.
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Well, I dead and Jesus raised meback.
So these two guys are sittingat this table and they're,
they're.
They're having a party withJesus.
They're just celebrating Jesus,and there's two sisters there.
It's probably their home right?
They're?
They're probably related toSimon somehow.
Um, and we've met these sistersbefore.
Mary and Martha.
Yeah, Good friends of Jesus,Lazarus's sisters.
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Martha is serving the meal.
She's busy.
She's busy, as she has alwaysbeen.
This is her nature.
She serves Jesus by servingExactly, but Mary is once again.
We find Mary at his feet youknow, and she takes this jar of
perfume and breaks it and justpours it over Jesus in this act
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of extravagant worship.
Yes, and his disciples, led byJudas, scorn her and scold her
and say that's a year's worth ofmoney that we could have taken
and used for something else.
And Jesus defends her.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Right, right, Everywhere this gospel is told.
We're going to talk about this.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Exactly and leave her alone.
She's doing what she can andshe's doing what's right.
You're always going to have thepoor with you.
Now, he's not saying weshouldn't take care of the poor.
He's saying I'm here now andthere's a short period of time
and she unlike, unlike youpeople understands what's about
to happen.
And she's just anointed me formy own burial, and so it's just
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an incredible act of worshipthat takes place that day.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
This worship kind of reminds me when, when David was
looking for a home for the ark,you know, and and I can't
remember the guy's name Gosh,it's slipping open, maybe, yeah,
but anyway, he, he, he wants togive David the Austin and give
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David the threshing floor.
And David says I will notworship my God with something
that costs me nothing.
Exactly Right, and worship isshould, should be true.
Worship is costly.
It costs us something, not justmonetarily, but it costs us
something spiritually.
It costs us our pride, it costsus sometimes our agenda.
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But yeah, worship should becostly.
It's a sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Right, and it shouldn't.
When somebody genuinelyworships God in an extravagant
way, our response should not bethe response of the disciples.
We look down on them and gosomething's wrong with you.
That's not normal.
Well, it should be normal.
Extravagant worship should benormal.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
That should be the normal thing right.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And Mark and John in their gospospels draw a contrast
between Mary, who does thisextravagant worship and says
this is what Jesus is worth tome, and Judas, who is berating
her for taking this perfumewhich could have been sold and
he claims it could have beenused to give to the poor.
But John tells us he reallywanted it because he was holding
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the coffers and he could stealfrom it.
He would help himself.
So Mary's looking at Jesus.
What can I do for the one whohas raised my brother from the
dead and saved me?
And Judas is looking at Jesusof what can you give to?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
me.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And what a contrast that is in how to follow Jesus.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Even more so.
What does Judas decide to doLike right?
I mean, at that point, satanenters him and he decides to
betray Christ.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Nobody had to pursue him.
He went and found ways to uh tobetray his brother, his brother
.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So Jesus is then.
At that time Judas goes out toaccept the bribe, the 30 pieces
of silver To arrange for therest of Christ.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Just kind of a thought too.
Just, man, you can be veryclose.
Judas was with Jesus For threeyears.
Yeah, you can be very close tothe things of Christ and not
know him.
You can be a church member evenand not know Christ.
It's just a good thought, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
He heard the same teachings, he saw the same
miracles.
He just closed his heart.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You can be close to the things of God, but not close
to God.
Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So was that on Wednesday?
That was Wednesday, yep, solook at her redirecting close to
God Good stuff.
So was that on Wednesday?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
That was Wednesday, yep, so look at her redirecting
us once again.
Good job Now.
Moving on to Thursday.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Thursday is a extremely busy day right, you
guys probably know this one.
Another fun fact what'sThursday called Maundy Thursday?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
That's an old, that's an older phrase.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It's still around some.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
What's it called one more time Maundy Thursday, so
Monday.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Not Monday, okay.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
M-A-U-N-D-Y.
Okay, look it up.
Yeah, I will Google it.
That's what I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
If only there was a way to know what that meant.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Only we could find the definition Maundy Thursday.
What is Maundy Thursday andwhat does it mean?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Tell us.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Maundy means the ceremony of washing the feet of
the poor, especiallycommemorating Jesus' washing of
his disciples' feet on MaundyThursday.
Look at that Maundy, maundy,disciples' feet on Maundy.
Thursday.
Look at that Maundy, maundy.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Maundy not.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Monday Maundy, maundy .
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Maundy, yeah, maundy, thursday Maundy.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Thursday.
So the whole week in Jerusalemis teeming with people because
it's Passover week.
Yeah, it's the festival whereGod has commanded the nation of
Israel to remember that he hasdelivered them from slavery in
Egypt with a Passover lamb thatwas sacrificed, and at the end
of the week they take lambs,they sacrifice them, they have
this big meal together,remembering what God has done
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for them.
So the whole week is pointingtowards that time and typically
those lambs are sacrificedmid-afternoon on Friday, about
three o'clock, and then thefamily has the meal.
Jesus knows he's going to besacrificed at three o'clock on
Friday.
He is the lamb of God who'scome to take away the sins of
the world.
He's going to fulfill thePassover.
So on Thursday he goes to hisdisciples and he says I want you
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to prepare the Passover mealtonight.
I want to just have this onelast meal with you.
So he sends them into the cityand he's already made
preparations, either in advanceor divinely and there's a room
set up for him and so that heobserves one last Passover meal
with his disciples and there hewashes their feet, talks about
the kind of Messiah he's goingto be I've come to be a servant.
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If you're going to follow me,this is what you need to do as
well Takes the elements of thePassover meal and institutes
what we now call the Lord'sSupper.
You know, this is my bodybroken for you.
This is my blood poured out foryou.
So he connects the dots for him.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And I think too, when you think I mean obviously it's
an example for you he says I'vedone, see what I've done.
You turn and do this likewise.
I've done, you turn and do thislikewise, right, and he's
telling.
I mean he's basically, before hedoes that he's telling them the
gospel, you know, and he's likewe said, he's fulfilling the
Passover and I think when wethink of serving others, when we
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think of serving others, wethink about, you know, maybe
doing physical things for them,and I think that's a good way to
serve people.
But Jesus is doing what onlythe lowest of the servants would
do.
And Peter says you would washmy feet?
No, not a chance.
And Jesus' response to Peter isI don't wash you, you have no
part of me.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And so Peter's response back to Christ is then
wash everything?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, don't wash all of me right, and I think that's
what we need to take away fromthat.
The way that we serve peoplebest is by sharing the gospel,
so they can be totally cleansed,right?
I think the physical thingsthat we do are important, and we
should do those things only asa bridge or an avenue to share
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with them what will give themtrue life.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yep, that's what we're here for.
Yeah, that's what we're calledto do.
That's what.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Christ is getting ready to do Exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
So they have the Passover meal together.
Jesus reveals that one of themis going to betray them.
They don't know who it is.
They're all questioning it.
Could it be me?
Could it be me?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Even.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Judas says, is it me Exactly?
But he leaves and he goes tobetray Jesus.
He goes to set it up because heknows where Jesus is going next
.
Jesus has revealed okay, afterthis we're going to go out to
the garden, probably a patternfor him of prayer.
And so after the Passover meal,after the institution of the
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Lord's Supper, they do go out tothe garden and Jesus takes the
disciples with him.
But then he takes some of thedisciples further into the
garden it's kind of his innercircle and tells them stay here
and pray while I go in a littlebit further.
And then he goes in and praysthe famous prayer that we're
familiar with Father, if there'sany way for this cup to pass,
nevertheless, not my will, butyours and he earnestly prays.
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He's feeling the weight of hismission.
At that point, I think healways felt the weight of the
mission, but now he knows thetime has come.
Yeah, yeah, it's no longer.
My time has not yet come, it's.
It's upon him.
Right, and I don't think thecup that he's talking about is
the pain of the cross.
No, I personally think it's thewrath of God.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The cup that he's going to drink is the wrath of.
God.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And he's going to be separated from his father for
the very first time and he'slike if there's any other way,
but nevertheless.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And think about that.
I mean think how much anguishthat caused Christ to think
about being separated from God.
Yeah, does that cause me thatkind of anguish?
Yes, god, does that cause methat kind of anguish?
Yes, unfortunately, some days Icould say it doesn't cost me.
I don't think of it that way.
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Sometimes I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
He was so torn over it, sweating so intensely it's
as if he was sweat drops ofblood I mean, it was an
emotional thing and he goes backand finds the other disciples
fast asleep, yeah in the exactopposite posture.
Could you not stay awake withme for just a little while?
And they didn't see thenecessity for it.
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They didn't sense the timingand the desperation.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And I think it's another good thought is like man
, are we as we wait Christ'sreturn?
What are we doing with thatweight?
Are we sleep at the wheel alittle bit?
Are we too comfortable, or arewe being diligent, being alert?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
If Jesus needed to pray, howmuch more do we need to?
Yeah, right, so while he'stalking to his disciples and
this goes back and forth acouple times but while he's
talking to his disciples, herecomes Judas, leading this cohort
of mob of the Jewish religiousleaders and probably a temple
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guard, temple guard Coming toarrest Jesus.
And Jesus says what are youdoing?
I've been in the temple everyday.
Why are you coming at nightwith these sticks and these
swords?
What's your problem?
And some of the disciples tryto get all uppity and Peter
grabs a sword.
And he's a fisherman, he's nota swordsman.
So, he cuts off Malchus's earand Jesus heals his ear and they
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still arrest them.
They arrest Jesus and hisdisciples scatter.
I mean it's gone.
It's like the lights androaches.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
They are gone and they haul Jesus off to the high
priest's house.
John follows at a distance, I'msorry.
Peter follows at a distance,not John.
Peter follows at a distance,and that'm sorry.
Peter follows at a distance,not John.
Peter follows at a distance,and that's where he ends up in
the courtyard and denies knowingJesus, Even though earlier he
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said you are the Christ, the Sonof the living God.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
I'll tell you one thing that's stuck with me from
some of your preaching.
I can't remember what passage,I can't remember when it was,
but I just remember youpreaching about this, and just
the one thing.
I just made a note in my Bible.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Peter was warming himself at the wrong fires.
When you follow Jesus at adistance, you're going to get
cold, and when you get coldyou're going to have to warm
yourself somewhere.
And sometimes you warm yourselfat the wrong fire and we find
that Luke 22, I believe is isthat passage.
So yeah, so Jesus has now beenarrested.
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He's hauled off in the middleof the night to these sham sham
illegal trials?
They're not allowed to meet atnight and do these things, and
now we've kind of transitionedfrom Thursday to Friday, yeah,
yeah, cause we're in the middleof the night at this point, and
so the middle of the night he'staken to Caiaphas, then to the
early morning hours he's takento Pilate.
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Yeah, sorry, I threw you off byasking the question.
So he's taken to Pilate becausethey've condemned him to death,
but they don't have theauthority to do it.
So the religious leaders have totake him to the Roman leader
and Pilate interviews Jesus andmultiple times says this guy's
innocent.
He tries to let him go.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
He does, he tries to.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
He finds out that he's from you know, living in
Galilee.
So he sends him to Her, whohappened to be in town for the
festival as well.
Herod tries to make a mockeryof him and sends him back to
Pilate.
Pilate again tries to releasehim.
His wife comes in and says havenothing to do with this guy
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
But all this is fulfilling scripture.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
All these things are fulfilling prophecy it is, but
Pilate's on his last stand withthe Romans.
He's already been in trouble.
He's got one more strike leftand then it's not the end of his
job, it's the end of his life,and so he knows this.
This is hanging over him, andhe would rather condemn an
innocent man than allow a riotto take place in Jerusalem that
day.
And so the Jewish leaders knowthat They've got him between a
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rock and a hard place and hecaves and he at first.
He tries to have him scourgedas as Jesus, beaten within an
inch of his life.
In fact, the beating he tookprobably would have killed.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, that's amazing that he survives that.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, it was just atrocious and he thought well,
I'll bring them back up, they'llsee this and they'll have
compassion and they'll let themgo.
What do you want me to do withJesus?
Crucify, crucify.
I'll give you an option,barabbas, you can release one of
these.
You have a custom here.
Which one do you want me torelease?
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This hardened criminal or thispoor beaten up guy who's done
nothing?
The?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
human condition will always choose death.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yes, and the human condition will always choose
death.
Yes, we just will.
The broken heart, yeah.
So he's led off at that pointto crucifixion.
He's on the cross for a fewhours, which is extremely short
period of time for death on across, and he's crucified.
And we won't go into all thedetails of the crucifixion today
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, but roughly about threeo'clock he's on the cross dying
the same time that the lambs arebeing taken to the temple to be
sacrificed, and this is notcoincidence.
This is God's timing.
He prays that God would forgivethose.
They don't know what they'redoing.
Right, he takes care of hismother on the cross.
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Uh, he offers salvation to oneof the one of the thieves, one
of the thieves which is, by theway, is to me one of the
greatest statements of faith inall of scripture.
The thief on the cross next tohim, placing his faith into a
dying man, someone who's dying,yeah, the cross next to him
placing his faith into a dyingman and to someone who's dying,
yeah, and there's a whole lot oftheology we could unpack there.
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But Jesus commends his spiritand then he literally dies.
He doesn't fall asleep, hedoesn't pass out, no swooning.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
No swooning.
He dies and I think it'simportant to say that he lays
his life down.
Yes, he gives his life down, hegives his life up.
No one takes it from him.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Exactly, Exactly.
And in the midst of thatthere's darkness.
In the middle of the day, thetemple, the veil in the temple
that separates the holy ofholies top to bottom is torn
asunder.
God has accepted Jesus'sacrifice and made a way for us
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to come into his presence.
He's removed the obstacles.
He's removed the obstacles.
They take Jesus down.
They put him in a borrowedgrave Because he's not going to
need it for long.
No, he's not.
He's not going to need it forlong.
But they have to do it bysunset because Saturday's coming
, the Sabbath is coming, andthey can't do it after that.
So they rush him in and theyput these spices on him and they
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roll this giant stone in.
They're worried, the Romanauthorities are worried that
somebody's going to come stealthe body and claim the Pharisees
are worried, right.
So they ask Pilate to set aguard over the tomb, they seal
the tomb with his symbol andthey put a guard on it.
And on Saturday, Jesus is inthe tomb.
We can discuss all the otherstuff, that's probably going on
(44:51):
in that period of time.
Jesus is dead and he's in thetomb.
At that point, he's declaringvictory, though at some point I
think it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
There's a famous sermon out there.
You know it's Friday, butSunday's coming right and that's
exciting and it's hopeful.
But I think Saturday's aninteresting day because there's
just not much going on.
There's nothing going on,there's not.
And so what are the disciplesthinking?
Going on, there's not.
(45:21):
And so what are the disciplesthinking?
You know it's a day of waitingand hoping and praying and
confusion, right.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, a day of defeat for them.
Yeah, because if they, didn'tbelieve he was going to die.
Could they possibly havebelieved that he was actually
going to come back, like he saidhe was?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Were they thinking about what he had told them he
had?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
told them that he would, but they didn't believe
that he was going to die.
So I think they're defeatedwhen he does resurrect and he
meets two of them on the road toEmmaus.
They're distraught.
They're like we thought he wasgoing to be the one and now he's
gone.
So I think they're in hidingbecause they're afraid what
happened to him is going tohappen to them and they're
(45:59):
defeated.
They thought, hey man, wehitched our wagon to the wrong,
you know our horse to the wrongwagon or whatever that phrase
goes or rag into the wrong horse.
So they're defeated, but it's.
Friday but Sunday's coming.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
So what do we do?
I think just a thought is whatdo we do with the wait?
Because we know that he'sascended to heaven now and he
says he's going to return.
And we've just been throughsecond peter in our uh, in our
core groups not very long ago,and the false teaching that was
going around is there's thisdoubt about christ coming back.
(46:37):
And and we can't live in defeatof that thought we know that
he's coming back and hispatience is counted as salvation
for others.
And so just what do we do withour Saturday?
Speaker 2 (46:52):
if you will.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
What do we do while we're waiting for him to return?
Do we need to run and hide, ordo we need to be diligent and
aware and in prayer, yeah,sharing the gospel, should the
disciples have been out sayinghey, wait, till tomorrow, wait.
Yeah, wait until tomorrow, hesaid, he said.
He said in three days, exactly,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
So should we not have that same attitude?
Are we living a defeatistattitude?
Instead of hey, he's comingback, yeah, he.
Instead of hey, he's comingback, he's coming back.
So Sunday morning, the ladiesget up early before the sun
comes up, so that they can bethere just in time Sabbath ends
as the sun rises, and so theycan now prepare his body
properly and they're talkingwith one another.
How can we open this tomb?
(47:33):
The stone is too big.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
And when they get there, who's?
Speaker 1 (47:35):
going to roll it away , and it's not a problem when
they get there, because thestones roll away, to roll it
away, and that's it's not aproblem when they get there,
because the stones roll away.
Someone's done it Now.
The stone wasn't rolled away tolet Jesus out, it was to let
them in Right, so Jesus didn'tneed the stone rolled away.
He, he's.
He's resurrected.
Christ has been risen.
The father has raised him,having accepted his sacrifice.
Um, and he is alive.
He's God, amen, he's good.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
What does that?
I mean what?
What are, just real quickly,what would be some of the
implications in our life of theresurrection?
I mean it's hard to do thatquick, it is.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I would encourage everybody to read first
Corinthians 15, right.
Yeah, yeah, just um, it's a.
It's the passage that dealswith the resurrection.
If you have doubts about theresurrection, if you have
questions about the timing orwhy the resurrection is
important, it is the pivot pointof human history, it is the
pinnacle of our salvationHistory is divided by that.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I know they're trying to change BC whatever, but it's
.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
BC and AD man.
Yes, exactly.
And it is divided by theresurrection, christ's victory
over sin, over death.
He is the first fruits of theresurrection.
Because he has been resurrected, we can have new life right.
Because he was raised.
We can be raised right.
If he hasn't been raised andwe're still dead in our
trespasses and sins.
We should be pitied above,above every other person.
(48:54):
But he has been resurrected andbecause he has, we can have new
life as well.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Proves that he is who he said he was.
Proves that the sacrifice wasaccepted and sufficient, and he
lives now, to intercede for usforevermore, to the uttermost.
So many things we could talkabout.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
And he appears to multiple people.
It's not just like Mary and acouple other ladies.
He appears to disciples, heappears to over 500 people.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yes and yeah he's around about 40 days after the
resurrection like you said,appearing to people, and this
isn't wish-filled thinking.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
This is historic truth that can be verified.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Eyewitness corroboration.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Absolutely that Jesus is alive, so we'll celebrate
that.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
That's what Easter week.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Holy Week, passion Week, is all about A little
sneak peek, a little sneak peek,but I know we've probably gone
on a little longer than wenormally do.
But we just wanted to kind ofwalk through the week and just
kind of set our minds.
Hopefully this will come out,maybe Monday, and it'll help us
just kind of set our minds forthe week as we get ready towards
Resurrection Sunday.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Fantastic.
Yeah, thanks for letting me bea part.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Thanks for being here , old guy.
You're almost as old as me.
I'm close, Tara thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Appreciate it Of course it was a great episode.
I think a lot of the timesgoing into Easter week or Holy
Week, I'm thinking like how canI prepare my heart?
And I like what you said justabout how worship is costly.
So I'm thinking, not about theway that the disciples were
necessarily acting, but the waythat Jesus was preparing for
that week.
I guess is, yeah, that's verygood stuff.
(50:41):
Thank you, guys both for forsharing.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
Absolutely Right.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
We'll see you guys soon, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Bye.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Have a great time.
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