October 7, 2025 • 20 mins
Brains don’t misbehave—they communicate. We explore five simple brain patterns that reframe “acting out,” perfectionism, slow pace, letter-flips, and worry into clear strengths with practical supports. From busy-with-information to the deeply sensitive what-if brain, we translate complex neuroscience into everyday tools families and educators can use before breakfast: one-step instructions, predictable routines, visual schedules, movement breaks, and language that replaces shame with skill.
Along the way, I share a vulnerable story about helping my third-grader through anxiety spirals triggered by uncertainty—how previewing, gentle Q&A, and turning “what if” into “even if” shifted mornings from meltdowns to manageable. We also talk about honoring stimming for regulation, using assistive tech for switch-it-around readers, and tailoring goals for at-my-own-pace learners so progress feels safe and visible. Each brain type becomes less of a label and more of a map for design: lower inputs for the busy brain, clear transitions for the pattern-focused brain, accommodations that unlock creativity for the flip-it reader, and compassion-first strategies for the planner who worries.
You’ll also hear why I pivoted from chiropractic adjusting to virtual care, then to business coaching, and now to building Unshakeable Brain—plus the real-life supports my partner and I chose, including relationship coaching that strengthened our family. If you’ve ever wondered how to make science usable at home and school, consider this your field guide. Press play, subscribe for new episodes, and share this with someone who needs a hopeful reframe. Then tell us: which brain type in your world needs a better plan today?
Note: This podcast episode is sponsored by Dr. Rewire's Brain DNA test. Learn more at Unshakeablebrain.ai. If you're a practitioner and you're interested in adding this at-home lab test to your toolkit, go to Unshakeablebrain.ai/expert.
I, Dr. Kylie, no longer work with clients in any endeavor. If you'd like more support for your health, I recommend working with the physicians at the EllieMD telemedicine platform. To get started, go to https://elliemd.com/?bp=drkylie. For health and wellness experts looking to provide this resource to your clients, get started at https://elliemd.com/join-us/?bp=drkylie.
Thank you for joining the Unshakeable Brain community. Dr. Kylie
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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
Every brain is different.
And as we get started on theunshakable brain podcast, I want
to go back to the basics, backto different types of brains.
These specific types are what wesimply call a one busy with
information brain.
Two, see the world differently,brain.
(00:24):
Three, switch it around, brain.
Four, at my own pace, brain.
And five, a simple what ifbrain.
Welcome to unshakable brain,your guide to an unshakable
brain.
I'm your host, Dr.
Kylie, and my mission is simpleto help you grow a brain that's
(00:44):
stronger, sharper, andunshakable in every part of your
life.
Each week we explore thescience, stories, and strategies
to make that happen.
This episode is brought to youby Dr.
Rewire's brain DNA test.
Find out more atunshakablebrain.ai.
Let's dive in.
As we get going on the earlyepisodes of this podcast, I want
(01:08):
to share some stories about howpowerful and why this mission is
so important to me movingforward and helping to create
unshakable brains.
But I also want to provide thescience and keeping the science
simple.
As practitioners, we like toovercomplicate because we had to
learn the overcomplicated stuff.
(01:28):
But the superpower really liesin taking complex and turning it
simple.
So I want to start off byreading you this book by Orlando
Bettison.
It's called My Different Brain.
And I bought her series of booksto help out my own son in
particular understand about hisbrain.
And I'll tell you what type ofbrain he has as we go through
(01:51):
this.
All right, so My DifferentBrain, written by Orlanda
Bettesen.
Did you know?
It's kind of cool.
No two brains are the same.
We all have different thoughts,different hopes, and different
pain.
Some of us are similar in lotsof little ways, but everyone
(02:13):
feels differently on differentkinds of days.
Each of us have unique brains,that's how it's meant to be.
It makes us all thinkdifferently.
You're you, and I am me.
Our brains are very complicated,controlled by many things.
One thing is a code of tinyletters stretched in strings.
(02:35):
Genetics.
The letters make up who we are,what colored eyes we get, how
tall we grow, how big our nose,and how our brain is set.
Some brains make it trickycontrolling what the body does.
Arms and legs may kick andpunch, or zoom around and buzz.
(02:56):
Some of you moms are like, yep,nodding their heads, thinking,
yeah, I have this one who likesto kick and punch, or I have a
very busy body who likes to zoomaround and buzz.
Some brains make it hardstopping sad or scary fears.
Hard to hold back worries, sadthoughts, or even tears.
Some brains make it hard tocontrol our behavior.
(03:17):
We try to act one way, but itcomes out a different flavor.
Some brains make it hardcontrolling the volume of our
voice, quick to anger, yell, orscream, though sometimes it's
not by choice.
Some brains make it tricky tounderstand new things, already
full and busy before the lessoneven begins.
(03:40):
Why don't we explore somedifferent types of brains?
Each and every one is specialand to be welcomed all the same.
Type number one, a busy withinformation brain.
Bella has a busy withinformation brain, which means
her mind is very powerful andstrong.
Her brain is always thinkingabout many things all at once.
(04:03):
This is a great skill, but itcan also make it hard to focus
because there are so manyinteresting things around.
This excitement can even make ithard to sit still.
Sometimes Bella gets so excitedabout her ideas that she calls
out answers or interrupts otherswhen they're speaking.
It can be hard to be quiet whenshe has exciting ideas bursting
(04:24):
out of her.
How can we help this type ofbrain?
A calm, structured environmentwith one instruction at a time.
So does having caring adultsthat prompt instead of punish,
because often Bella's brain hasto work harder than others to
follow the rules.
People with this type of braincan find it hard to focus, may
(04:46):
find learning tricky, are oftenthinking many thoughts all at
once, have creative and powerfulminds.
Brain type number two, a see theworld differently brain.
Seb has a see the worlddifferently brain, which means
(05:07):
his mind works in special andunique ways.
It takes in the worlddifferently, which can help him
focus on things he loves.
This is a strength, but it canalso make changes to his day
hard to cope with.
Sometimes this focus also makesit hard to talk to others or
make new friends because he isso interested in his own amazing
thoughts.
(05:27):
Seb may also sometimes move hisbody in certain ways, like
moving his hands or rocking,which is called stimming.
This helps him take ininformation and manage his
emotions, which when Seb isallowed to stim, he can better
concentrate and feel calm.
How can we help Seb and otherbrains like his?
(05:47):
A settled and predictableenvironment can help.
So can clear instructions abouthow about what to expect.
Having supportive adults aroundwho embrace him for who he is is
also really important.
This type of brain, a see theworld differently brain, looks
like one, may find change hardto cope with, two, can find it
(06:08):
hard to talk and make friends,three, may need to move their
body in certain ways, four, havegreat focus on the things they
love.
The next type of brain, aswitch-it-around brain, looks
like this.
Stella has a switch-it-aroundbrain, which means her mind sees
(06:32):
letters and words in a specialway.
This can make reading andwriting harder.
Sometimes she might find ittricky to read smoothly or spell
words correctly, which can befrustrating, but her brain also
comes with many strengths inother areas like problem solving
and creativity.
How can we help aswitch-it-around brain like
(06:52):
Stella's?
A supportive environment withextra time and strategies like
audiobooks or text-to-speechprograms can really help.
Accessing support and workingwith specialists can also help
her overcome some of thesechallenges.
A switch it around brain lookslike one, they might find
writing and spelling difficult.
(07:12):
Two, they see letters and wordsin a special way.
Three, they may find readingtricky, and four, are often
creative and good at problemsolving.
Do you know somebody who has aswitch-it-around brain?
Maybe it's even you.
(07:35):
Angie has an at-my-own pacebrain, which means that his, her
brain and body develop in aunique way.
This can bring some harderthings like difficulties and
learning and differences in bodydevelopment, but it also comes
with many strengths, like agreat sense of humor and strong
friendship skills.
People with an at-my-own pacebrain may need extra support in
(07:57):
school and other activities, butthat is what makes the world
wonderful.
There are lots of people to helpus out.
How can we help?
A caring, inclusive environmentwhere diversity is embraced is
very important.
So is clear communication,tailored expectations, and
personalized goals.
An at my own pace brain may looklike one, they find their brain
(08:20):
and body work in a differentway.
Two, they might find learningtricky.
Three, might feel different toothers, and four, they are kind,
funny, and wonderful friends.
The last type of brain is a whatif brain.
This is my son's brain.
And holy molys as it createssome anxiety in him.
(08:42):
Wilma has a what-if brain, whichmeans she often feels worried or
uneasy, making everydaysituations feel difficult
because she's always thinkingwhat-if thoughts.
However, this can also come withsome positives.
It can help her prepare forimportant events and motivate
her to do her best.
People with a what-if brain cansometimes spot problems before
(09:05):
they happen and can developstrong problem-solving skills.
They can also be very caring andunderstanding about how others
feel, making them kind andthoughtful friends.
How can we help a what-if brain?
Having a supportive environment,feeling heard by trusted adults,
and accessing support fromspecialists can make a big
(09:26):
difference.
A what-if brain looks like, one,they may be sensitive and often
feel worried or scared.
Two, they may have lots ofwhat-if thoughts or questions.
Three, they often noticeproblems, and four, they are
caring, kind, and they think ofothers.
My little boy has lots ofwhat-if thoughts and questions,
(09:48):
and he also feels sensitive andoften feels worried or scared.
This third grade year has been avery difficult year as we're a
couple months in at this point.
He's like the kind of kid whocries on the last day of the
school year because it's over.
And now this year we've got himcrying night before school and
(10:10):
morning of.
He doesn't want to go to school.
There are times where I hadphysically had to pull him onto
the bus.
And we finally have workedthrough it as I've answered lots
of questions or asked him lotsof questions about what was
going on, talked to his teacher,all the things.
We finally boiled it down to acouple different pinpoints, but
we were doing so good with hiswhat if brain.
(10:33):
And then the bus driver decidedto tell them this week that they
were going to do a drill thenext day.
And he, the unknown of that, hadhim so freaked out.
Then he comes home having donethe drill and said it was fun.
And it was like, holy smokes,child, you worked yourself up so
(10:56):
drastically over something thatyou just didn't even know.
So he has a what-if brain.
All right.
I want to welcome you aboard ourunshakable brain journey
together.
Welcome into the family, welcomeinto this community.
As we all worry about ourselves,our family members, our
(11:17):
relatives, our friends, itdoesn't matter what age you are,
we need to create unshakablebrains.
Before we dive in further, Iwant to share a little bit about
me, where I've been, and wheremy family's been, and where
we're headed.
Get you a little bit caught upon my life.
Okay.
(11:37):
In 2017, the same week, the sameweek I became a chiropractor.
I actually got my degree thatweek, was also the same week
that I had Easton.
So I became a mom and achiropractor the same week.
That said, I quickly learnedthat adjusting just wasn't for
(11:59):
me.
In 2019, I was pregnant with mysecond Hallie, and I was so
sick, which that happened to meall three pregnancies, so sick
that I couldn't even get myselfto my office, which was this
little two-room upstairs unit ina simple old complex in Roy,
(12:21):
Utah.
But I couldn't get myself there.
So I was like, if I can't evenget to the few patients that I
have in office, because Ialready had some virtual.
Why do I even have a virtual ora brick and mortar?
So gratefully, my landlord, weonly did month-to-month
contract.
So I was able to get out of myoffice.
And within two weeks, I was gonedoing the virtual space.
(12:44):
I had a couple patients who werefurious with me, but that's
their problem, not mine.
And then 2020 happened.
And in 2020, we all know thateverything shifted drastically.
And since I was already virtual,I had colleagues asking me, How
do I do the virtual thing as achiropractor?
(13:05):
Because you cannot adjustvirtually.
Well, that's where the tool ofblood work came into play.
Blood work was my jam.
I would be like a kid onChristmas morning when I got a
good set of labs.
I was like, oh my gosh, yes.
All these people who've lookedat these labs before didn't
bother or didn't notice orwasn't taught that's the truth.
(13:27):
Wasn't taught and wasn't trainedhow to read labs in this unique
way, like I did.
So that was really my jam.
I did patient care with that forprobably two years until the
business coaching side reallytook off.
I love coaching businesses.
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I loving helping practice, Ilove helping practitioners soar.
I love seeing other people havetheir dreams come true.
That's one of the reasons why Ilove watching sports,
particularly the Olympics orlike playoffs, because that's
when you see hard work payingoff as dreams come true.
And if their dreams can cometrue, why can't mine?
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So that's my the business sideof me.
I have now shifted over to doingthis brain stuff because AI has
shifted the industry and willcontinue to shift how we run
things online.
But I also have this passiontowards becoming an unshakable
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brain as I've seen myself waverthe last several years,
especially with social media andthe impact it has, and also as
my kids continue to grow and getolder.
When I'm not in the office,which and honestly in 2026, I
won't be in the office verymuch.
My business pivot hasdrastically moved me to being
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more of a mom, which I'm superexcited for.
I'm basically going to berunning a podcast.
So if you want to get to me,welcome aboard.
This is where you find me.
All right.
Married for about let's see, wegot married in 2015 in March.
So as this podcast airs, we'llhave been married for 10 and a
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half years.
Um, we started working with arelationship coach this year,
and it's been the best thing wecould have ever done for a
marriage.
So if you are hesitant towardit, I promise you it will be a
wise move as long as you get theright coach, just like in
everything else, right?
We had to get somebody whounderstood the entrepreneur life
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because he's an entrepreneur,I'm an entrepreneur.
With that comes risks, and withthat comes risks and rewards,
and risks and losses.
And we've experienced all of theabove.
So putting marriage first is abig deal and a big step for the
two of us as we've grownbusinesses with the littles at
(16:04):
the same time.
We currently live in Utah.
I did chiropractic school inOregon.
We both met, we met in Utah.
I moved to Oregon, and then ayear later, he moved to Oregon.
We got married, and we spent twoyears there, married before I
finished school, and we returnedback to Utah, where our family
(16:25):
members are.
And where it's a much betterplace to raise a family than
what's happening in Portland andSeattle the last few years.
All right.
That said, Easton is myeight-year-old, Hallie is my
five-year-old, and Chloe is mylittle two-year-old.
(16:47):
Chloe runs the show.
That girl walks around withspunk.
She is loud and she is proud.
Chloe is my very, or sorry,Hallie is my very very quiet and
timid one.
Hallie is now five and she'sspeaking so much better the last
few months than she has herentire life.
Chloe is the complete opposite,right?
(17:11):
As we all know, we have thesekids who have each individual
personalities and we have toparent them differently.
Easton is my eight-year-old withmajor anxiety.
Both Easton and Hallie haveglasses.
I think that's crazy.
My eyes have always been great,never had a problem with it.
(17:36):
Are we three for three gettingglasses?
I'm not sure.
So far, we are two out of threewho have glasses.
Okay, that's a little bit aboutme.
If I am not working or with Iwant to say, like my hobbies
would be I love volleyball.
I don't really play it anymorebecause you have to have a team,
(17:57):
you're gonna have a courtindoors, and I don't want to
play ridiculous volleyball.
Like if I'm gonna playvolleyball, I'm gonna play
volleyball and it's gonna belegit volleyball.
I do I did play volleyball atSUU, so I can talk sports,
volleyball all day long.
I am an avid tennis watcher.
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I can tell you all about tennisin the last decade.
I can't play it, but I love towatch it.
And one of these days on my oneof these years when my kids are
older and they understand alittle bit more about tennis,
we're gonna be at the US Openlike every Labor Day weekend,
which is also the weekend thatChloe was born.
So we'll have to figure that outbecause it will have a birthday
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that weekend too.
But I love going to seeprofessional tennis at those
Grand Slams, and there's onlyfour of them every year.
One of them is in New York, oneis in England, one is in
Australia, and one is in Paris.
So I can talk tennis all thetime.
The other things I love is Ilove to go camping.
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Anything outdoors.
I am in Utah and it is outdoorparadise.
I can do the beach, but thereyou just get sand everywhere.
We went to the I took my kids tothe beach with my parents a
couple years ago as Andrew wenton a hunting trip, packed up the
two kids.
I was pregnant with Chloe at thetime.
My parents and I, we jumped onan airplane, we went to Daytona
(19:24):
Beach.
It was great, but man, there wassand everywhere.
My Easton, though, discoveredhow to bodyboard.
So we want to get him back atthe beach at some point where
there's the wave so he canbodyboard.
And then I can do it too becauseI won't be pregnant.
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Mountains are our paradise.
We went camping a lot this pastsummer, and we'll probably go
camping a lot in the next nearfuture in all the summers.
It's just it's the love, it'sand it's close by, right?
We're in Utah.
We got the mountains by us.
So that's a little bit about meand my family, and I just want
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to welcome you guys and thankyou for joining me.
If you are new, welcome aboard.
If you've heard one of my manypodcast episodes and on previous
podcasts or read an old book,thank you.
And uh welcome aboard to the newversion of me, Unshakable Brain.
(20:29):
You're on the podcast, you cangrab the book on Amazon, and uh
we'll see you on the nextepisode.
Every brain is different.
And as we get started on theunshakable brain podcast, I want
to go back to the basics, backto different types of brains.
These specific types are what wesimply call a one busy with
information brain.
Two, see the world differently,brain.
(00:24):
Three, switch it around, brain.
Four, at my own pace, brain.
And five, a simple what ifbrain.
Welcome to unshakable brain,your guide to an unshakable
brain.
I'm your host, Dr.
Kylie, and my mission is simpleto help you grow a brain that's
(00:44):
stronger, sharper, andunshakable in every part of your
life.
Each week we explore thescience, stories, and strategies
to make that happen.
This episode is brought to youby Dr.
Rewire's brain DNA test.
Find out more atunshakablebrain.ai.
Let's dive in.
As we get going on the earlyepisodes of this podcast, I want
(01:08):
to share some stories about howpowerful and why this mission is
so important to me movingforward and helping to create
unshakable brains.
But I also want to provide thescience and keeping the science
simple.
As practitioners, we like toovercomplicate because we had to
learn the overcomplicated stuff.
(01:28):
But the superpower really liesin taking complex and turning it
simple.
So I want to start off byreading you this book by Orlando
Bettison.
It's called My Different Brain.
And I bought her series of booksto help out my own son in
particular understand about hisbrain.
And I'll tell you what type ofbrain he has as we go through
(01:51):
this.
All right, so My DifferentBrain, written by Orlanda
Bettesen.
Did you know?
It's kind of cool.
No two brains are the same.
We all have different thoughts,different hopes, and different
pain.
Some of us are similar in lotsof little ways, but everyone
(02:13):
feels differently on differentkinds of days.
Each of us have unique brains,that's how it's meant to be.
It makes us all thinkdifferently.
You're you, and I am me.
Our brains are very complicated,controlled by many things.
One thing is a code of tinyletters stretched in strings.
(02:35):
Genetics.
The letters make up who we are,what colored eyes we get, how
tall we grow, how big our nose,and how our brain is set.
Some brains make it trickycontrolling what the body does.
Arms and legs may kick andpunch, or zoom around and buzz.
(02:56):
Some of you moms are like, yep,nodding their heads, thinking,
yeah, I have this one who likesto kick and punch, or I have a
very busy body who likes to zoomaround and buzz.
Some brains make it hardstopping sad or scary fears.
Hard to hold back worries, sadthoughts, or even tears.
Some brains make it hard tocontrol our behavior.
(03:17):
We try to act one way, but itcomes out a different flavor.
Some brains make it hardcontrolling the volume of our
voice, quick to anger, yell, orscream, though sometimes it's
not by choice.
Some brains make it tricky tounderstand new things, already
full and busy before the lessoneven begins.
(03:40):
Why don't we explore somedifferent types of brains?
Each and every one is specialand to be welcomed all the same.
Type number one, a busy withinformation brain.
Bella has a busy withinformation brain, which means
her mind is very powerful andstrong.
Her brain is always thinkingabout many things all at once.
(04:03):
This is a great skill, but itcan also make it hard to focus
because there are so manyinteresting things around.
This excitement can even make ithard to sit still.
Sometimes Bella gets so excitedabout her ideas that she calls
out answers or interrupts otherswhen they're speaking.
It can be hard to be quiet whenshe has exciting ideas bursting
(04:24):
out of her.
How can we help this type ofbrain?
A calm, structured environmentwith one instruction at a time.
So does having caring adultsthat prompt instead of punish,
because often Bella's brain hasto work harder than others to
follow the rules.
People with this type of braincan find it hard to focus, may
(04:46):
find learning tricky, are oftenthinking many thoughts all at
once, have creative and powerfulminds.
Brain type number two, a see theworld differently brain.
Seb has a see the worlddifferently brain, which means
(05:07):
his mind works in special andunique ways.
It takes in the worlddifferently, which can help him
focus on things he loves.
This is a strength, but it canalso make changes to his day
hard to cope with.
Sometimes this focus also makesit hard to talk to others or
make new friends because he isso interested in his own amazing
thoughts.
(05:27):
Seb may also sometimes move hisbody in certain ways, like
moving his hands or rocking,which is called stimming.
This helps him take ininformation and manage his
emotions, which when Seb isallowed to stim, he can better
concentrate and feel calm.
How can we help Seb and otherbrains like his?
(05:47):
A settled and predictableenvironment can help.
So can clear instructions abouthow about what to expect.
Having supportive adults aroundwho embrace him for who he is is
also really important.
This type of brain, a see theworld differently brain, looks
like one, may find change hardto cope with, two, can find it
(06:08):
hard to talk and make friends,three, may need to move their
body in certain ways, four, havegreat focus on the things they
love.
The next type of brain, aswitch-it-around brain, looks
like this.
Stella has a switch-it-aroundbrain, which means her mind sees
(06:32):
letters and words in a specialway.
This can make reading andwriting harder.
Sometimes she might find ittricky to read smoothly or spell
words correctly, which can befrustrating, but her brain also
comes with many strengths inother areas like problem solving
and creativity.
How can we help aswitch-it-around brain like
(06:52):
Stella's?
A supportive environment withextra time and strategies like
audiobooks or text-to-speechprograms can really help.
Accessing support and workingwith specialists can also help
her overcome some of thesechallenges.
A switch it around brain lookslike one, they might find
writing and spelling difficult.
(07:12):
Two, they see letters and wordsin a special way.
Three, they may find readingtricky, and four, are often
creative and good at problemsolving.
Do you know somebody who has aswitch-it-around brain?
Maybe it's even you.
(07:35):
Angie has an at-my-own pacebrain, which means that his, her
brain and body develop in aunique way.
This can bring some harderthings like difficulties and
learning and differences in bodydevelopment, but it also comes
with many strengths, like agreat sense of humor and strong
friendship skills.
People with an at-my-own pacebrain may need extra support in
(07:57):
school and other activities, butthat is what makes the world
wonderful.
There are lots of people to helpus out.
How can we help?
A caring, inclusive environmentwhere diversity is embraced is
very important.
So is clear communication,tailored expectations, and
personalized goals.
An at my own pace brain may looklike one, they find their brain
(08:20):
and body work in a differentway.
Two, they might find learningtricky.
Three, might feel different toothers, and four, they are kind,
funny, and wonderful friends.
The last type of brain is a whatif brain.
This is my son's brain.
And holy molys as it createssome anxiety in him.
(08:42):
Wilma has a what-if brain, whichmeans she often feels worried or
uneasy, making everydaysituations feel difficult
because she's always thinkingwhat-if thoughts.
However, this can also come withsome positives.
It can help her prepare forimportant events and motivate
her to do her best.
People with a what-if brain cansometimes spot problems before
(09:05):
they happen and can developstrong problem-solving skills.
They can also be very caring andunderstanding about how others
feel, making them kind andthoughtful friends.
How can we help a what-if brain?
Having a supportive environment,feeling heard by trusted adults,
and accessing support fromspecialists can make a big
(09:26):
difference.
A what-if brain looks like, one,they may be sensitive and often
feel worried or scared.
Two, they may have lots ofwhat-if thoughts or questions.
Three, they often noticeproblems, and four, they are
caring, kind, and they think ofothers.
My little boy has lots ofwhat-if thoughts and questions,
(09:48):
and he also feels sensitive andoften feels worried or scared.
This third grade year has been avery difficult year as we're a
couple months in at this point.
He's like the kind of kid whocries on the last day of the
school year because it's over.
And now this year we've got himcrying night before school and
(10:10):
morning of.
He doesn't want to go to school.
There are times where I hadphysically had to pull him onto
the bus.
And we finally have workedthrough it as I've answered lots
of questions or asked him lotsof questions about what was
going on, talked to his teacher,all the things.
We finally boiled it down to acouple different pinpoints, but
we were doing so good with hiswhat if brain.
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And then the bus driver decidedto tell them this week that they
were going to do a drill thenext day.
And he, the unknown of that, hadhim so freaked out.
Then he comes home having donethe drill and said it was fun.
And it was like, holy smokes,child, you worked yourself up so
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drastically over something thatyou just didn't even know.
So he has a what-if brain.
All right.
I want to welcome you aboard ourunshakable brain journey
together.
Welcome into the family, welcomeinto this community.
As we all worry about ourselves,our family members, our
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relatives, our friends, itdoesn't matter what age you are,
we need to create unshakablebrains.
Before we dive in further, Iwant to share a little bit about
me, where I've been, and wheremy family's been, and where
we're headed.
Get you a little bit caught upon my life.
Okay.
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In 2017, the same week, the sameweek I became a chiropractor.
I actually got my degree thatweek, was also the same week
that I had Easton.
So I became a mom and achiropractor the same week.
That said, I quickly learnedthat adjusting just wasn't for
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me.
In 2019, I was pregnant with mysecond Hallie, and I was so
sick, which that happened to meall three pregnancies, so sick
that I couldn't even get myselfto my office, which was this
little two-room upstairs unit ina simple old complex in Roy,
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Utah.
But I couldn't get myself there.
So I was like, if I can't evenget to the few patients that I
have in office, because Ialready had some virtual.
Why do I even have a virtual ora brick and mortar?
So gratefully, my landlord, weonly did month-to-month
contract.
So I was able to get out of myoffice.
And within two weeks, I was gonedoing the virtual space.
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I had a couple patients who werefurious with me, but that's
their problem, not mine.
And then 2020 happened.
And in 2020, we all know thateverything shifted drastically.
And since I was already virtual,I had colleagues asking me, How
do I do the virtual thing as achiropractor?
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Because you cannot adjustvirtually.
Well, that's where the tool ofblood work came into play.
Blood work was my jam.
I would be like a kid onChristmas morning when I got a
good set of labs.
I was like, oh my gosh, yes.
All these people who've lookedat these labs before didn't
bother or didn't notice orwasn't taught that's the truth.
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Wasn't taught and wasn't trainedhow to read labs in this unique
way, like I did.
So that was really my jam.
I did patient care with that forprobably two years until the
business coaching side reallytook off.
I love coaching businesses.
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I loving helping practice, Ilove helping practitioners soar.
I love seeing other people havetheir dreams come true.
That's one of the reasons why Ilove watching sports,
particularly the Olympics orlike playoffs, because that's
when you see hard work payingoff as dreams come true.
And if their dreams can cometrue, why can't mine?
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So that's my the business sideof me.
I have now shifted over to doingthis brain stuff because AI has
shifted the industry and willcontinue to shift how we run
things online.
But I also have this passiontowards becoming an unshakable
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brain as I've seen myself waverthe last several years,
especially with social media andthe impact it has, and also as
my kids continue to grow and getolder.
When I'm not in the office,which and honestly in 2026, I
won't be in the office verymuch.
My business pivot hasdrastically moved me to being
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more of a mom, which I'm superexcited for.
I'm basically going to berunning a podcast.
So if you want to get to me,welcome aboard.
This is where you find me.
All right.
Married for about let's see, wegot married in 2015 in March.
So as this podcast airs, we'llhave been married for 10 and a
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half years.
Um, we started working with arelationship coach this year,
and it's been the best thing wecould have ever done for a
marriage.
So if you are hesitant towardit, I promise you it will be a
wise move as long as you get theright coach, just like in
everything else, right?
We had to get somebody whounderstood the entrepreneur life
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because he's an entrepreneur,I'm an entrepreneur.
With that comes risks, and withthat comes risks and rewards,
and risks and losses.
And we've experienced all of theabove.
So putting marriage first is abig deal and a big step for the
two of us as we've grownbusinesses with the littles at
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the same time.
We currently live in Utah.
I did chiropractic school inOregon.
We both met, we met in Utah.
I moved to Oregon, and then ayear later, he moved to Oregon.
We got married, and we spent twoyears there, married before I
finished school, and we returnedback to Utah, where our family
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members are.
And where it's a much betterplace to raise a family than
what's happening in Portland andSeattle the last few years.
All right.
That said, Easton is myeight-year-old, Hallie is my
five-year-old, and Chloe is mylittle two-year-old.
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Chloe runs the show.
That girl walks around withspunk.
She is loud and she is proud.
Chloe is my very, or sorry,Hallie is my very very quiet and
timid one.
Hallie is now five and she'sspeaking so much better the last
few months than she has herentire life.
Chloe is the complete opposite,right?
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As we all know, we have thesekids who have each individual
personalities and we have toparent them differently.
Easton is my eight-year-old withmajor anxiety.
Both Easton and Hallie haveglasses.
I think that's crazy.
My eyes have always been great,never had a problem with it.
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Are we three for three gettingglasses?
I'm not sure.
So far, we are two out of threewho have glasses.
Okay, that's a little bit aboutme.
If I am not working or with Iwant to say, like my hobbies
would be I love volleyball.
I don't really play it anymorebecause you have to have a team,
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you're gonna have a courtindoors, and I don't want to
play ridiculous volleyball.
Like if I'm gonna playvolleyball, I'm gonna play
volleyball and it's gonna belegit volleyball.
I do I did play volleyball atSUU, so I can talk sports,
volleyball all day long.
I am an avid tennis watcher.
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I can tell you all about tennisin the last decade.
I can't play it, but I love towatch it.
And one of these days on my oneof these years when my kids are
older and they understand alittle bit more about tennis,
we're gonna be at the US Openlike every Labor Day weekend,
which is also the weekend thatChloe was born.
So we'll have to figure that outbecause it will have a birthday
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that weekend too.
But I love going to seeprofessional tennis at those
Grand Slams, and there's onlyfour of them every year.
One of them is in New York, oneis in England, one is in
Australia, and one is in Paris.
So I can talk tennis all thetime.
The other things I love is Ilove to go camping.
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Anything outdoors.
I am in Utah and it is outdoorparadise.
I can do the beach, but thereyou just get sand everywhere.
We went to the I took my kids tothe beach with my parents a
couple years ago as Andrew wenton a hunting trip, packed up the
two kids.
I was pregnant with Chloe at thetime.
My parents and I, we jumped onan airplane, we went to Daytona
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Beach.
It was great, but man, there wassand everywhere.
My Easton, though, discoveredhow to bodyboard.
So we want to get him back atthe beach at some point where
there's the wave so he canbodyboard.
And then I can do it too becauseI won't be pregnant.
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Mountains are our paradise.
We went camping a lot this pastsummer, and we'll probably go
camping a lot in the next nearfuture in all the summers.
It's just it's the love, it'sand it's close by, right?
We're in Utah.
We got the mountains by us.
So that's a little bit about meand my family, and I just want
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to welcome you guys and thankyou for joining me.
If you are new, welcome aboard.
If you've heard one of my manypodcast episodes and on previous
podcasts or read an old book,thank you.
And uh welcome aboard to the newversion of me, Unshakable Brain.
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You're on the podcast, you cangrab the book on Amazon, and uh
we'll see you on the nextepisode.
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