Kelly joins Dale to discuss her new book Security Chaos Engineering: Sustaining Resilience in Software and Systems. Kelly points out the second part of the title is the most descriptive, and she is not a big fan of the Chaos term that has taken hold.
They discuss:
- A quick description of Security Chaos Engineering
- Is there similarity or overlap with the CCE or CIE approach?
- The value of decision trees
- Her view of checklists of security controls like CISA's CPG
- Lesson 1 - "Start in Nonproduction environments"
- The experiment / scientific method approach and how it can start small
- The Danger Zone: tight coupling and complex interactions
- How should ICS use Chaos Engineering
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