Gold Mines, Murders, and Midnight Roads

In this episode of The Unsolved Couple, we revisit Unsolved Mysteries Season 3, Episode 15 — a night of strange disappearances, hidden gold, and unanswered questions. A young man’s mysterious death on a dark Spokane, The Russell Evans case — hit and run or murder? A diplomat Bradford Bishop vanishes after his family is found slain, leaving only a trail of blood and speculation. Deep in the Arizona desert, treasure hunters chase the legend of the Lost Adams Diggings — a gold mine said to be cursed.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everybody. I'm Sierra and I'm Ben, and welcome back
to another episode of The Unsolved Couple, where every week
Ben and I recapt when off you are a rich
gateway drugs into true crime unsolved mysteries.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Cool. Certain, we're doing really good this year.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Who's doing really good this year?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
The Colts?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, that's good? They heard it here?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
First, are we recording?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well you said you were starting over.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I did start over. And then you start talking about
football again. Well you asked what you were looking at.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I was telling the colts.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's good. Anything you want to share about the Colts
with us?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Of course, there's six and one. You're going to win today, seven.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
And one, seven wins, one loss.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, last year we only know one eight games. So
eight games, yeah, seventeen, so you know we're better than
we were last year.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, don't count your chickens before they hatch. Maybe they'll
win tomorrow and not win our today and would not
win another Game'll be like that. All right, we're back
from Disneyland, Yes we are. How was our trip?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
It was good. There's a lot of walking.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
There's a lot of a lot of walking and a
lot of people. Is there ever a downtime at Disney.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I don't think so. I think it's over.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I think when you pay this much money, people do
not care if they take their kids out of school
or yeah. Yeah, I can't imagine being there on spring
break or summer vacation because it was I don't think
the park was not anywhere near I think capacity or
sold out or whatever, and it was. There's still a

(01:52):
lot of people, but we ended. We had a great time.
We love Disneyland. We had our kids are at the
age where we just got after it.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, but they also we're at they're at the age
where they were tired. It was six o'clock. We've been
going for ten hours. Yeah, we're tired. Let's go. We're done.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah. That was nice that no one felt the need
to be there till midnight every night.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, so I done. Well.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We are excited to be back with you guys. Today
we are recapping season three, episode fifteen, oh and Happy Halloween.
It's the week of Halloween.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I know, I think serious feelings stressed because we're recording
two days before this episode is about.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
To drive run out of I prepare a lot of
aspects of my life or plan a lot of things ahead.
But this is my baby and it is one thing
that I have been very good about having two plus weeks.
You're ocd about it, Yeah, and I have two episodes

(03:10):
written and prepared.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I just didn't mind this weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, so I'm feeling a little anxious. Hopefully we'll get
on top of it, and if not, I do have
a couple of backup plans. I reached out to my
friend Kylie, who is the host of Primetime Crime and
she does cover some unsolved cases that were also featured
on Unsolved Mysteries, and I asked her, if we can't

(03:37):
get caught up on things, can I borrow an episode
for a week and feature it. So if in the
near future you hear that, just know that I'm dying inside.
But everything's cool and for the first time in ever,
I'm actually the one prepared.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
All right. Before we dive into today's episode, don't forget
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(04:24):
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at gmail dot com. All right, all right, three stories today,

(04:48):
yep perse So Ben only had to prepare one.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yepers, So I'll get us starts. Probably going to be
the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, it is probably, and I've just accepted that that's
how it's.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Going to be. So let's just make this clear. It's
not because work is absolutely bonkers for me right now.
I'm in a training and it is wild. So there's
actually I have a much less free time the last.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
We'll follow up in a week and find out how
much sports though he was able to keep.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Up on, deary, I haven't. I haven't really watched I
haven't got to really watch any of the World Series.
I didn't get to watch too much baseball last week.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
You're watching baseball last night at a Halloween party's because.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was just on the tv? Was there? So my
eyes went to it?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
All right, So I'm going to tell you guys a
story about a man named William Bishop This one is wild.
It's wild and awful.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yes, it's a that. It is a horrific story. It
is just a it's just a wild It is a
wild story.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's one of those stories that I think if we
saw it on a movie or written in something, we
would think, well, that doesn't it doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, it's an awful story of it. I just I
guess I was really surprised to hear it on Unsolved Mysteries.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I was too, But it's kind of a dark one
for insult.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
So. It began on March second, nineteen seventy six, in
the quiet woods of Columbia, North Carolina. There was a
state park ranger, I can't say the word ranger without
thinking of toy story O space ranger. Yeah, responding to

(06:49):
a small brush fire, he came across something that would
haunt investigators to this day. As the flames died down,
this man found a gas can, a shovel, two things
you don't want to find in the woods, and unfortunately,

(07:12):
a shallow grave that was still smoldering. Inside were five
partially charred bodies of three young boys and two women.
At first, police had no idea who these people were.
There was one clue. The victim's clothing had labels from

(07:36):
expensive department stores in Bethesda, Maryland, nearly three hundred miles away.
For the next six days, the victims remained a mystery. Literally,
they had nothing to go on. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
and this is nineteen seventy six. Yeah, no cell phone,
no social media, no nothing. You've got nothing to go

(07:58):
on except some brand of clothing. For the next six days,
the victims would remain a mystery. Then a call came
into the Bethesda Police from a neighbor who was concerned.
She was the neighbor of a well known man in

(08:18):
the area. His name was William Bradford Bishop. He was
a respected economist within the United States State Department US
State Department. I don't know what that means. Respected economic economics,
No economic, I think the word you said it right,

(08:41):
I know I did it now, I just economist. Yeah,
so I'm guessing he did something with money inside the
State Department. Do you have any idea what this job
would entail?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean, connossly, you're doing something with labor markets. I
don't know in the state, but the State Department, I
don't know. Yeah, but you got to think.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
The government employee had been for a while.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
The way the government functions and that's it's mechanisms and
like who works where today was very different.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah. No, the Home Department of Homeland Security didn't even
wasn't invented till two thousand and three. So yeah, you know,
I don't know, I don't know what he did in
the State Department.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Something something, he did something, but overall he had a
highly respected job and he was high up in this.
We're going to find out later that he had some
special passport, a diplomatic diplomatic diplomatic passport. Did you know
what that would is what that was? Yeah, okay, I

(09:45):
denied to look it up, so put a pin in it.
We'll get to that in a minute. So this call
would uh unravel one of the most disturbing murder cases
in a marria and history. Up until that point, this
was kind of we're gonna find out what we're dealing
with a family annihilator here. Yeah, yeah, and it just

(10:10):
wasn't a common thing.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And burnt, so that's murder. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Lieutenant Joe of the Montgomery County Police was the first
to arrive at the bishop's home. He recalled walking up
to the front steps and seeing small drops of blood
on the porch, and this is done in the re
enactment is the neighbor calls for a welfare check, and

(10:38):
she says that families usually they travel a lot. Them
being gone is not uncommon. But what is is that
normally they would have reached out to her and a
bare minimum asked her to water the plants and take
the newspapers off of the porch, and they weren't piling up,
and she hadn't heard from them, and the newspapers had

(11:00):
started to pile up on the porch. This is also
a very well to do neighborhood, so people are paying
attention to each other's yards, is what I'm saying. And
so she just was concerned. And so he shows up
and he's interviewed and he's like, notices blood on the porch.

(11:21):
It's a little concerning. But the neighbor actually, according to
Unsolved Mysteries, had a key, so he didn't have to
get a warrant.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
So you don't want a welfare not always. I've seen
other reason to believe that there does need to be.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
And he said with the key the newspaper. The blood
that he needed was to be able to enter into
the home. So when he pushes the door open, he
notices more blood throughout the foyer and up the stairs,
and he reaches the top of the landing and says

(12:03):
that he saw something that would stay with him for
the rest of his career. The walls and ceilings were
completely splattered with blood, he said in the interview. There
was hardly a place you could put your hand where
there wasn't blood. I've been a police officer for twelve
years and this was the worst scene I had ever

(12:24):
observed coming from a cop in the DC area.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
So at this.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Point, at least again according to the reenactment, he leaves
the home and gets more people there. Yeah, all right,
we got a crime scene on earth.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Some moments later police confirm what they had feared. The
five victims found in North Carolina were the Bishop family,
his wife and it his mother, Lobita, I think that's
how you say it, and their three sons, fourteen year
old William, ten year old Breton, and five year old Jeffrey,

(13:06):
I know.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And there was no sign of Brad Bishop himself. So
the police have to ask is he a victim or
was he involved and is vanished by choice?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Either way, you gotta find this guy.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
To his co workers, we're gonna get a little background.
Bishop was considered very brilliant. He was it graduated Yale,
not an easy school to get into. I mean, you
got accepted.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I told him, you said no, thank you. Harvard asked
for me to come, and I was like, no, yeah, okay,
that's all just in case.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Fluent in five languages that asked.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That was no joke. Yeah. Uh. And a foreign service officer.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Who had spent many years working overseas. This has got
quite a resume. He's not working in DC by accident.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, the State Department does travel a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
So a colleague who's actually interviewed on UNSOLF mysteries, his
name was Roy, remembers seeing Bishop outside the State Department
the day of the annual promotions list. Once again, Bishop
had been passed over. We get no more information on
what that means. So I don't know. I don't know

(14:32):
if it was just like a promotion promotions within that department,
and he had been passed over, and it made it
sound like he had been passed over a couple of
years in a row, and his buddy even says, hey, man,
I also didn't get selected for a promotion. Why don't
we go grab lunch? And he's like, actually, I think

(14:53):
I'm gonna go home. I feel like I'm coming down
with the flu. I'm not feeling well.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I think he said something mean to us friend.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
He did say something mean to his friend first, but
I didn't write that down, so I.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Think I just was like, that's kind of it.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, he made it sound like, well you're not me
or something like that. Yeah, like it's not surprising that
you got pasted it. But the problem is is that
I did.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, And so he says, okay, like head on home.
Why don't we get lunch later this week or something
and talk about it, and he leaves. Bishop leaves the
office and that would be the last time he'd never
be seen at his office ever. Again.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
That was the day. Yeah, this family was found later
that day.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Right, I believe so, or the next the next day. Yeah.
So that night March first, nineteen seventy six, Yeah, because
they found March second. Yeah, so we're on the night
of March first. Bishop makes a series of strange but
yet very deliberate.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It stops.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
He withdraws several hundred dollars from his bank account. He
goes to a local hardware store and purchases a gas can,
a shovel, a ballpoint or no, not a ballpoint pen,
that's different. This is a ballpen hammer, which is a

(16:21):
hefty hammer, and leaves. I was actually watching this with
our daughter and she was like, shouldn't this purchase be
a red flag? And I'm like, yeah, I mean, you
might as well throw zip ties and bleach on there
and call it a day tape. But unfortunately, there is
no database for men buying creepy things at hardware stores

(16:45):
because that could also be for another project.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, you could be working on your hammer and store.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
And then he goes and fills up the gas can
at the gas station. The gas cans do not come
already pre filled with gasoline, just in case anyone didn't
know that until today. They were doing their notes and
then around eight pm returns.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
You just think the stores have canisters gas just sitting
on the shelf inside.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
It's on the top shelf. In the reenactment, it looks
really light, and I was like, that's a dumb place
to store a whole gas can of gasoline that looks fake.
And then I later in the reenactment he's at the
gas station filling it up, and I'm like, oh, so
I looked it up, and no, the gas cans don't

(17:45):
come back.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Can you imagine a store with like thirty or let's
say twenty gas canisters all filled with gas. You can
imagine how that place would smell in that corner of
like Walmart.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And think about if they put those. They have tire stores,
which are more offensive than the smell of gasoline, not
only to you, and those are all in one spot.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's a tire I.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Don't know they sell oil at the store and closed thing.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Oil doesn't smell like gasoline.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Well maybe it doesn't smell when it's enclosed either.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't know. Guys are in the back of smoking
their cigarettes in the seventies. I need a new gas can.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Okay, Well, just was putting it out there in case
anyone else thought that the reenactment was stupid. By putting
it up on the top shelf and then making it
look really kept over. This guy doesn't know how to act.
He's making it very clear that that's an empty gas can.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Person is grabbing it.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
It don't and that would be a terrible place to
put all the gasoline on.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
The top shelf. It's a middle shelf. If it was full,
yeah it would be, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ever No, okay, So before yeah, if you're being a
little silly tonight or this afternoon, guys, whenever you're listening
to this is because this is about to get really dark.
So we're trying to lighten the mood here a little bit.
So he gets home at eight o'clock, give or take,
and investigators believe that this is when the massacre began.

(19:24):
His wife and Atte was likely attacked. First she was
found beside a book she had been reading, then the children,
and finally they believed that last of all, his mother.
I did some research. It sounds like the mother might
have been out walking the dog when he first arrived

(19:45):
home and came home at the end. That's just an
again something I found on a different article in Wild.
The crazy part to me is that they were all
bludgeoned to death with a hammer. This was not like,

(20:06):
I don't killing is killing, I get that, but mode
of death says a lot about a person, and that
just seems insane to me.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, I don't like to talk about that. I don't
that's to me, it's the worst, one of the worst. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, you have been in the world of true crime
anytime something big has happened, the Watts case, the Susan
Powell like you, if I try to talk about those,
you're like, this is my line.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And honestly, I don't even like talking about this case
when I saw it, I don't like it. I don't
like these family annihilator cases.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, it goes against everything that you know.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
To be true in it disgusts me. It just it
makes me feel queasy and uneasy. And then the thought
of how he did it. I don't even want to
say it because I think it is hands down just deplorable.
Like if there's a movie and that stuff, I can't
watch it. Yeah, I can't. I just can't.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I hate Hey, you've never watched any of the documentaries
about a family annihilators.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
So no one even had a chance to fire back,
no one had like defensive wounds or anything. So afterwards,
it is believed that Bishop then loads up the bodies
of the family into the back of the family station
wagon and then begins a two hundred mile drive south

(21:34):
towards the remote woods of North Carolina. There he dug
a shallow grave, poor gasoline and set the graves ablaze
before driving away into the night. Another thing on my
side research, I found out that this fire was actually spotted,
likely much quicker than I think Bishop would have realized,

(21:57):
because there was a watchtower. So mike grand parents did
this for a while one summer. They were they go
stay at these watch towers out in the woods, and
they their only job is to watch for smoke or
flames to help prevent forest fires.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, to help get on top of them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
And so this was spotted by one of those people,
so it was it was caught very quickly.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
What doesn't make sense Why bury them then?

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't know that. It seems weird to me too,
Maybe just the thought that it would help get rid
of any evidence.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Again, what you eliminated your whole family when they identify
these people, the first person they're looking for you is
the last person of the family. Yes, So I just
thought it was weird that he buries them and then

(22:56):
burns them on.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Top of Yeah, I agree, I was. It seems like
a lot.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
But at the end of the day, can we even
ration We're going to.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Make rational decisions from a man who just several hours
ago bludgeon into his entire family and his mother.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, his own mom wasn't her mom, it was his
that's what they said. Mysteries. Yeah, I don't know. So, yeah,
I'm trying to make sense of a completely irrational Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And I left out some of the interview of his
friend because his friend makes some kind of snarky, disparaging
remarks about the victims and I thought it was gross.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah. So, yeah, the he like insinuated that they had
damask demasculized him.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah. I don't care what I was like.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's just victim blaming is not not going to work
in this situation.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
So, seventeen days later, March eighteenth, a arranger in the
Great Smoky Mountains of Tennessee discovers bishops bishops abandoned station wagon.
Inside there were traces of dry blood, a blanket, and
the receipt from the hardware store, but Bishop himself was gone.
And that's kind of where unsolved Mysteries leaves us. We

(24:19):
are given description kind of that he had this diplomat
diplomatic passport, which basically allows you to be treated some
kind of ways to get.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Into countries certain countries.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, you kind of it's like you know when you
go to the airport now and they have pre check.
It's kind of like the pre check of passports. Oh okay,
but it's issued. No one can. You have to be
a part of the government working under that to be
able to But it also, this is one thing I
found out, It actually also automatically makes it so that

(24:58):
if you are in certain countries under business like they're
on behalf of the United States, you cannot be charged
with a crime. See that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, there is reasons for it. Oh are there?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
We're not going to get into those right now. That's
more the CIA, which we talked about last week. But yes, yeah,
So okay, if anyone has seen him, please call in.
You ready for your update?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah? I mean what you got to think? This guy
literally had a seventeen day head started.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
So I've got two updates. We kind of get an
update from about two years later. So two years it
goes by no signs of this guy. And then and
take this with a grain of salt, in nineteen seventy eight,
Bishop's former colleague who was also interviewed.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Who was the guy that he ran.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yes, the same guy thread is Yeah, the same colleague
and friend that was the last person to see him
before he went off the rails. Says that he is
traveling in Italy inside a crowded bus station restroom and
he spots a bearded man washing his hands. The reenactment,

(26:19):
you guys, the reenactment actor, his hair and wig, makeup, whatever,
facial hair, fake facial hair he has on, looks like
these people went down to the Halloween spirit store the
day after.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
He looks like the Geico.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yes, the cave man poorly done. Yeah's great, I was
I was laughing so at first where he sees this
man and dismisses the thought, but then as he turns
he says, something clicks and I will give you the
quote because I think it's important. Beneath the beard and

(27:06):
worn clothes, he believed he saw the face of Brad Bishop.
He approached him and said, Brad is at you. The
man froze, panicked and yeaded himself out of there. Shows
this man running off into the streets of Italy and

(27:26):
Roy chases him outside, watching him disappear down the cliffs
away from the city, and according to some, this was
the last quote credible sighting of William Bradford Bishop. Some
believe that Bishop used his State Department connections and his

(27:51):
fancy passport to reinvent himself overseas. Others believed that he
might have taken his own life in the wilderness somewhere
in the appalachis and then update as of today. In
twenty fourteen, the FBI released a new age progressed image

(28:12):
and DNA test of a John Doe killer in Alabama
hit and run in nineteen eighty one. A man who
borish drinking resemblance to vision, but the DNA came back negative.
Countless leads brought authorities to Europe, including sightings in Italy, Sweden,
and Switzerland. The FBI is adamant though that the only

(28:36):
credible lead in fifty years is a lead in North
Carolina someone spotted him and his dog. All other leads
they don't consider credible, according to the FBI, and the
case remains unsolved as of today.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's the wild barn. The s guy was never tint,
never caught.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You guys, what do you think do you think that
he had that seventeen day start and got out and
was able to completely reinvent himself with I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I can't make sense of this guy. Yeah, I will say.
It's a seventies so it is much easier to disappear yep,
and even and then by the time time.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Way easier to to even make up fake names and
fake identity or like.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Uh, giving fake ideas everything right, and.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
You speak multiple languages.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
And on top of that, again it's the seventies, so
like tracking people's movements was much more difficult, so especially.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
When you get started almost twenty days later.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
That's the other part. He had a massive head start. Yeah,
but would it also but he could have very also
just gone into the woods and killed himself. And over
years and years, all the evidence of his demise is
no joke. Yeah, I mean there's probably places that people

(30:07):
don't go for years and years. So is it possible?
I mean we were there, We literally saw two bears you,
So yeah possible. I have no idea. I don't know,
what do you think?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know. Here's the thing, this to me didn't
just happen because he didn't get a promotion. I don't
think he quote unquote snapped, you don't annihilate your entire
family without some where with Down's forethought happening now Again,

(30:42):
because this case is still open, I don't know anything
about this man's history leading up to this. There's nothing available,
so it to me if he potentially planned all of this,
I imagine he planned away out. It wouldn't surprise. I don't

(31:04):
think that guy in Europe with the caveman look was
that guy.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Because it's been a homeless guy with the mental.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, and then you've got some guy yelling at you
that your name is you know, Bishop, and is chasing
you down the streets.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'd run too, But it's also a guy that works
with him closely and who was Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But he also said beneath the beard and the clothing,
that's a stretch, So I mean, yeah. The only thing
I can say is I if he did decide to
go on and he's been able to live his life
for the next however many years. You know what I

(31:45):
always say about people like this, I hope he always
cuts his nails too short. I hope he always dubs
his pinky toe, and I hope he gets paper cuts
in the worst places.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I mean, that's the only part that I hate.
Ye if he did get away, like let's say he
didn't off himself, Yeah, it's just is terrible that he
then got to go on and continue to live without
ever serving any type of justice or a.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Horrific correct and senseless There was no life insurance. That
this man had no reason to do this. I don't
even know if he was having an affair like maybe
we see in Chris Wattson or you know, the Peterson case, like,
there was nothing at least that we are aware of

(32:38):
the indicated a motive of doing this other than the
fact that you are just a terrible human being.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, okay, well, sorry, I wish I had a better update.
I was literally shocked when I saw that there was that.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
That was the And I actually looked this one up
too because I was and I.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Will say I will post the pictures. He is still
on the FBI's most wanted list. They have age progress photos,
all different kinds of ways he could look. There's an
active tip line for this, so I will I will
put it out there. But the chances are that he's
even still alive. He'd be like in his early nineties.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
As I said, I think I thought I saw something
that he would be ninety by now. Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
All right, what kind of story do you have for us?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You got I got an interesting one? Okay, all right.
We start out in Spokane, Washington, June fourth, nineteen eighty nine,
one oh five am. Some people are driving along the
road and they spot a body in the road, stop
to help. He's barely alive. It turns out it is

(33:55):
thirteen year old Russell Evans. And then the reenactment, he
like cries out, Brian, help me, and they call. He
gets transported to the hospital. He gets to the hospital,
they say around one thirty, his parents show up. They're there.

(34:16):
The medical staff does everything they can do. But unfortunately
at nine ten am.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
And they worked on him all night.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah yeah, but I in my site, Rachel like he
had a broken back, he was hemorrhaging internally. Like, it's
amazing he lasted that long.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
But breaks my heart. There's a lot of worse for
yours parents have, but getting that call in the middle
of the night, yeah, that's one of them.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's pretty bad. Yeah, Like I said, unfortunately, nine ten am,
he passes away. So you know, the parents are interviewed.
It is terrible tragedy. Robert Stacks comes back and says,
you know, this is a tragedy. Parents. I hate to
have to do this. But the parents have no idea

(35:05):
what happened and why. Police come out and they investigate
and they say this is a hit and run, right,
but the parents. The reason this story is brought to
unsolved Mysteries is because the parents don't believe it was
a hit and run. They think there was something else
behind it. So we get told his story. He's a

(35:30):
thirteen year old middle schooler who played basketball. This kid
was six three already at third at thirteen.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Boys don't stop growing until they are what high school is.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I could not believe when they said he was six three. Yeah,
he loved playing basketball. He played pick up basketball almost
every day.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I don't think he had a choice. If you're that tall,
automatically you were forced into basketball.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well, he he want parents to He wanted to play
for UCLA and play in the NBA. And clearly at
six three at thirteen, you've got well.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
You have also a love for it, like it wasn't
just like I am being forced to play.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
He genuinely.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
They were interviewed saying he played basketball morning, noon, and
night pick up games every.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Weekend with his buddies.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Like that's what he was doing.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
So he's got a good shot to make it to
the NBA. So June third, the day before, or technically
the evening before, he's out with his friend Aaron, and
even Aaron is introduced, he's interviewed, he talks, you know,
to us, and they're at a park with some friends
and as they're there, some older teenagers come up and

(36:47):
start hassling them, and they hassle Aaron about his girlfriend.
They don't give specifics, no, but they kind of start
getting in a little scuffle. Russell gets involved. It's like hey,
you know whatever, and supposedly it dies out, but they

(37:09):
threaten him this later, it's like you better watch out.
I'm gonna stick my friends on you or something like that. Okay, right,
because at least in the reenactment appears that there's a
couple of them, there's all these.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Kids smoking in the reenactment. I don't think so percent
sure that. I was, like, there is a kid smoking
on this bench with these other kids, Like I don't
know if he was supposed to be one of the
bad kids or something. But I got to go back
and look.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
So they left the park. Russell hangs out at a
friend's house for the evening. Then, he said, he calls
his dad and says, I'm on my way home. I'm
a little it is a different world. He's thirteen, but
he's out till midnight past we're.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Gonna find out a minute. But he's not the only one.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
No. As he's walking home around midnight, he runs into
another friend, save Matt, and he's out on this like
these kids are just you know what it is June.
It's summertime. You know what's the difficultld back.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Then, if it's Washington in the summertime, it's only technically
been dark for like two hours, two and a half hours,
Like it doesn't get dark till after nine o'clock in
the Pacific, and that's like ten. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
So so Russell and said, they chit chat. He tells
say it about the encounter they had at the park
that you know it almost got in a fight.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, that's big news to tell.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Your other especially you're thirteen. Y So then he's like, hey,
I got to get home, like all right, So he
leaves at twelve thirty.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
And he only lived what doesn't say, oh ninety percent,
sure it did. They said, like how long the walk
was going to be to get home? I think it
was like okay. Then says no, Now I'm gonna have
to look it up.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Okay, all right, So he heads off. That's the last
person to see him that evening until the people find
him laying on the road just past one am. The
police are interviewed and this also and they say they go,
they investigate the crime scene. What they believe happened is

(39:14):
he's there, a car hits him. They say they hit
him so hard he got knocked out of his shoes
and shoelaces. Yeah, and there said there's other debris in there,
and he went seventy five feet.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Seventy five feet, you guys, so that is that's a
lot of feet, It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah. So doctor George Lindtolm, he's a forensic pathologist, he's interviewed.
He says, listen, all the bruising, all the scraping, all
that is consistent with a motor vehicle accident. So the
police do believe this is a hitting room. Obviously, they
don't just say hitting round done. They want to find well,

(40:01):
who hit him?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yeah, that's still a crime. You can't you can't hit
and run, but you definitely can't hit and run up
human being and then leave the scene like yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, So that's the police's version. So it just appears
he was walking home. That's almost one. Someone hits him, yeah,
and kills him and clearly hit him so hard to
knock him out of his shoes. Yeah. The dad's then
interviewed says, now, listen, I saw my son. I saw
the bruising, and it looked like he'd been in a fight.

(40:34):
He said his shoes and shoelaces were up to supposedly,
the dad says, eighty over eighty feet away from where
his body was. There was also three pools of blood
up to fifty feet away from where his son was found.
That so, if you're hit and you go that far while,

(40:56):
are you leaving three pools of blood? Valid questions? Yeah, right,
And they did get a copy of the official police
report and the shoes and the shoelaces were separated, which
is weird. It is very strange.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I've heard of people coming out of their shoes. But
I've never heard of shoelaces coming untied and completely out.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Of the shoe. I will say this, and I don't
speculat They show a picture of the shoe and the shoelaces,
and the shoes appear to be like small where there's
only like two or three holes.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
It looked like old kids, Like, yeah, they have like
four holes for those old kids.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, but that doesn't mean that shoes. I have no idea.
I have no clue. So they parents went back to
the scene with the lady that actually found them, and
they're trying to find they just don't think that it
was just a random hidden Yeah, so they are. You

(42:00):
see the reenacting of them with this lady, Sandy Ferris,
who's the one that found him, and she points out
like where the body was, where supposedly the pools of
blood were. They even say in one of the pictures
from the crime scene photos, there's blood on the shoelace.

(42:20):
So how do you get blood on the shoelace when
you're head such a high spin.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
If you've ever come up on a bad accident, there's
a lot of fluids that come off a vehicle or
out of a vehicle. To me, that can look very
much like is that blood or is that oil? Does

(42:44):
that make sense? Like it stains very much the same
to just the lay person if you were looking at it.
I don't know if I could distinguish between the two.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, I don't know, Like, yeah, I don't really see.
I didn't get to see the pictures or any of them,
so I just don't know. These are all concerns that
the parents are raising. They hired a second pathologist. He
looked over everything and he actually agreed with the initial ruling.
That just does appear to be a motor vehicle accident.

(43:16):
He was hit back, but he does say he thinks
that he doesn't. Some of the bruising appears to be
from a fight. The dad doesn't think. He says the
bruising on his back wasn't consistent with a bumper, that
it was all over the place, so he thinks he was.
The dad believes he was hit with either a baseball

(43:37):
bat or a two by four beaten with that before.
So they parents versions they think what happened he was
walking home, These kids saw him. They jumped him from
the park. Yes, yeah, they jumped him. They beat him
and then ran.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Him over and also ran him over.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yes, right, yeah, so the police there, they come back,
they say, listen, we actually we found these kids. We
interviewed them, they took a polygraph they passed with flying colors. So,
and it appears the police did do an extensive investigation

(44:26):
because the parents also say that Brian was yelling when
he was found. I'm sorry to say, Brian Russell was
found yell ye, Brian, Brian helped me. Yeah, that's what
the lady that found him. She testifies to that that
he was yelling and that as the police were there

(44:49):
and they was loading them up, she looked up and
saw a boy in white shorts running up to hill.
She tried to tell the police, but they were preoccupied.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
They were trying to save this kid's life.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah. With the scene, the parents say that Russell did
have a friend named Brian, and he told the parents
that he did. He was wearing white shorts and a
white T shirt that night. But the police did question
him also and he didn't supposedly denied owning a pair
of white shorts and said he wasn't there. That's all

(45:22):
we get about Brian. We have no idea who his
brank kid is And then the other weird part is
when the mom arrived at the hospital. She's there, she's
asking trying to get some part.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Again, this part was weird to me, and.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
The receptionist or someone there said that someone by the
name of Brian had already called asking about Russell's condition.
So that's everything the Nunshow Mysteries leaves us with.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Okay, so any.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
So you know that's where they leave us. Did he
was he actually killed?

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Or was this a hit and run?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Or was was this intentional? Or was this an accident?
And then someone did something terrible and just left the scene. Yeah.
I mean, at the end of the day, it appears
I both disagree that a vehicle was used, but what
happened before and was it intentionally used is up for debate. Yeah,
my parents believe so okay, all right. Update technically, according

(46:23):
to the parents, it is still unsolved. Okay. I did
find some updates. Nineteen ninety six, a witness did come forward,
and I found the news article from this and she
stated that she heard a boy bragging and admitting that

(46:46):
they did beat him up and then they ran him over.
So unfortunately, that testimony never led to anything. I read
another article. So I read two articles to kind of conflict.
The nineteen ninety six article conflicts that the DA a deputy.

(47:13):
What the DA says that the police have not formed
enough evidence to bring it forth to the prosecution for
murder charges or hit and run for any of it.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I read another article from only a few years ago
that the police did present some type of evidence to
the DA, but they decline thinking that it was not
so unfortunately, there's not a lot out there because technically
it's kind of closed. But the police say it's a

(47:49):
hit and run, but it appears that they still are
willing to look at evidence and clearly it is.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I mean that means something, you know what I mean
like that.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
But technically it's not closed because they don't know who
did it. Yes, so it's not really I guess what
I'm saying is the closed the case of the factor run.
They know who did it, and they brought it that
person to justice. It's still and what I'm saying is
it does appear that the police are still open to

(48:20):
theories that all of this man happen Unfortunately Russell. Both
of Russell's parents have passed. She has a sister who
is five years old at the time, and she still
I read an article from only a few years ago.
She's still pushing and trying to get right now. She

(48:40):
says there's evidence still sitting there, but the Spokane Police
Department doesn't have a cold case unit. She says she's
written every city councilman to try to fund a cold
case unit to test stuff and to reopen this investigation.
Even if the.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
City of Spokane doesn't. Doesn't the State Apartment have one?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
But yeah, so her sisters still reach out to her
via as much as I can on social media and
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
We will share her we will share her information. We're
sharing this story now.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I read another article that it appears that multiple people
there was witnesses supposedly a few weeks later, stating that
they saw someone done and aim for him. So it
does appear.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
That this was there's at least enough evidence to keep
the theory going that this might have been malicious and intentional.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
And it does appear. I will say, the police don't
do themselves the best. Favorite in the episode, they kind
of come across that they think it's just a hint
and run, but also things I read, it does appear
that the police are more than willing to open any
angle of that. So the sister is still fighting.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
And is there an active tip line or anything.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
No, not that I found.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Okay, I'll do some research and see if I can
find one.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
But technically, I mean it is unsolved because no, even yeah,
let's say it was just a drunk person driving, that
person has never really needs to be brought to justice.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
And how you you hit someone to the potential where
you killed them, killed them and they also moved seventy
five feet, there had to be damage to somebody's car.
I will say this about this case. Somebody knows something,
whether somebody knows my grandpa or my dad or this

(50:43):
person or my boss or whoever came to work on
Monday morning with a damaged vehicle.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
But if you beat the crap out of that kid
and then ran him.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Over, yeah, oh yeah, there wouldn't be damaged. You are correct.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
So they can say seventy five But maybe the parents,
maybe maybe they are right, because here's what I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
One way or the other hand. The shoes off of
them and maybe they're way run away in.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
The street and it went down the street seventy five
feet and then you beat him to the ground and
then you rain him over. Then yeah, but then.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Again, somebody knows something, somebody because.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Someone did say something. In ninety six, someone came forward
and said I heard this.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah, but there was more than one kid involved in
that crime. If that was what happened, it was a
group of kids, which means there are adults walking around
to day with that knowledge. And I will tell you this,
in the world that we live in, nobody stays silent forever.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
For the sake of him, his parents, his sister.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I hope that if you know anything, if you're from
the Spokane area, please share this story, Please send any tips,
and I'll post all that information as well in our
social media to try to get more light on this story,
because if there is even stuff to be tested as well, that's.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
What the success, you know. And you know, it appears
that she still lives in the area, so okay, unfortunate
for her now she's lost her brother, her parents, my
goodness now passed away. So yeah, I think her dad
passed away in the late nineties or mom was twenty
eleven to fourteen, something like that. Okay, time so that's

(52:33):
my story.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Okay, well, thanks for sharing that terrible story. Okay, are
you ready to hear about another treasure?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
These buried treasure stories?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
This is a world that I've fascinated about, but no,
nothing and have no desire to be a part.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Here is my question. Has anyone actually ever found buried treasure? Yes?
Besides I read about one story I found a shipwreck.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, we watched that entire documentary about the treasure hunt.
Do you remember that? Did you watch it with me?
The one on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
I think it was a different boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
It was just recently. So. Yeah, treasure is still found today,
whether it is found in large vast quantities, I don't
think so as much.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
The only person I know the only story I have
ever heard of a finding treasure is Thomas Gates.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
No, we've heard found We've also heard of the treasure
of One Eyed Willie who in like you know, Cannon
Beach Organ, Canon Beach Organ. A group of kids had
a day off from school and they were about to
lose their home. Who knows where the parents were.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
They went under the city. They found those robbers that
had gotten shot and escaped jail and Tillamorgan or wherever.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, and they found a entire ship full of treasure.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah, yeah, I know that guy. And then I know
the guy he stole the Decoration of Independence. He found
the map on the back, and he found a massive
treasure underneath what New York think. So, I don't remember
what city, but he found that master the Knight's Templarks.
Those are the only people I know that I found treasure.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Okay, well, I want to tell you about Adam's treasure,
and I'm going to start with what I believe is
a little Robert Stack's poetic shade.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
As long as a man believes is a treasure to
be found, he'll be spread on by the belief that
he'll be the one to find it. It seems that
people have been forever obsessed with the prospect of uncovering
legendary buried treasure. This never ending quest to strike it
rich has fueled a million dreams, each with a common
goal of instant wealth.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah, Robert kind of gives Ben's basic feeling about treasure
hunters that you always think you're going to be that one.
What was the famous quote from like one of the
first ones we did. It's just two more feet or something.
Like that.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
He just pretty much says, you got these guys trying
to stretch. I mean you've played the clip. You know
they want to strike a riches they want I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, as we all like, I would love to find
very treasure, but again, I don't have the energy and
I especially do not have the desire to be out
in the Arizona wilderness looking for everything. Because once again,
this is here in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I guess what I'm saying is this is what the
fifth or sixth one. Yeah, at least it appears that
in the eighties, these stories and legends are going around
and people are still in it. What I'm saying is
you don't hear these stories and legends anymore or yeah,
talked about or a big deal. And maybe it's just

(56:04):
because I'm not and I'm totally for the hobby. I'm
all about the hobby.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I've always wanted one of those beepy things that you
take on the beach. I have a exactly, So we're
half been, We're halfway there.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah, but it's not because I thought that some pirate,
you know, Jack Sparrow, buried something on the beach here.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Because I'm going to assume that someone lost their wedding
ring on the beach or something, or their change fell
out of their pocket or whatever. Yeah, I'm actually fascinated
with over in. I think in parts of England and
Ireland and stuff like that, people are taking these insanely
strong magnets and magnet fishing, so they're throwing them into

(56:47):
the Thames and these like these old world locations and
throwing these insane magnets in there and pulling things up.
I have seen a guy pull up a thing and
he found a old metal box that had a bunch
of silver coins in it that looked like they were
from the eighteen hundreds. Not necessarily a full on treasure,

(57:09):
but it's something. But they do pull out I mean
bikes and old weapons and different things like that that
looks like a fun hobby. Right, I'm here for all right, Okay,
But this story begins in September of eighteen sixty four
when two men stumble out of the desert and into

(57:31):
the care of soldiers at Fort Apache. One of them
was barely alive, a prospector only known as Adam. While
he recovers, Adam tells the army surgeon a tale so extraordinary.
Few believed it. He said that he and twenty miners

(57:53):
had been led through the mountains by a man named
got You Here. I'm sorry what it's Gotcha here?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Gotcha here? Okay, which to.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Me makes me think from the moment this guy said
that that this is not a real story, but it's
literally spelled.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Oh, I got some I got some thoughts on g
O T C.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
H E R E. Got you here a guide raised
by the Apache and Gotcha Here promised to show the
men a canyon filled with gold in exchange for exactly
here's your list, two horses, one saddle, two fifty dollars
gold pieces, and a red silk bandanna. So this man

(58:46):
is saying that this guy offered to show these men
rivers of gold, but.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
He doesn't want it. They do say why he doesn't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
When the miners begin to doubt the guide, he promises
them just a little bit further, and he leads just
two more feet, just two more feet, leads them through
a narrow, hidden passage, a zigzagging canyon that opened into
a secluded valley, and they're cascading from a twenty foot

(59:21):
high waterfall. Was a stream of gold, gold that Adam
tells us was as big as acorns.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
No it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
The miners made campuses stream agreed to share their new fortune.
That always goes with a bunch of cowboys and shaking
their hands in the wild West. Yeah. For a time,
everything goes well until a group of Apache warriors appear,
led by a local chieftain named Nana Chief not a Warren.

(59:56):
Adams that he was on sacred land and that none
of his men were to go above the waterfall. That
was the one rule. You can stay below the waterfall.
You can't get what you need, and then you need
to vacate. But anyone caught crossing the line would be

(01:00:19):
dealt with in death. Adams agreed. But gold fever has
a way of clouding people's judgment. One morning, a miner
chasing his horse, wandered above the falls and found a
nugget the size of a hen's eggs. So we're significantly
bigger than an acorn down. So, of course, the word

(01:00:39):
starts spreading quickly, and the men were secretly climbing up
into the canyon canyon walls gathering as much gold as
they could carry, and they were within days. It was
said that they had collected more than three hundred pounds
of gold with worth over a million dollar back in

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the eighteen hundreds, so today, adjusted for inflation, it would
be astronomical. They hid this in the hearth of the campfire,
sealed inside an old coffee pot, as one does.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Well, we always bury our gold. That's what we do.
We've learned from these stories is that when you find gold,
you bury it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Well, this was gold they weren't supposed to have. Okay,
this was gold that they were going above the waterfall
to get. That was a no no. So they were
hiding it because of that reason.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Okay, I gotta hide your gold. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Well, Chief None kept his promise. When Adams and his
partner Davison returned from a nearby hunt, they found their
camp silent and the men had all been massacred. When
Adams and his partner Davis returned, oh from the cliffs above, Sorry,
excuse me, I was reading my notes a second time

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in a row. From the cliffs about, Adams could only
watch as the Apache warriors vanished back into the mountains
that night under the cover of darkness. The two men fled.
Days later, they collapsed in the desert where the soldiers
of Fort Apache found them. Adams would go on to

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spend the rest of his life the man who was
already there once trying to find the canyon again but
never could.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Well, maybe if he didn't bury your gold, took.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
It pennyless, still chasing the memory of what he once saw.
Over time, a railroad man named John Mitchell became obsessed
with the story in the nineteen twenties and followed every
rumor that he could find, carefully writing down all of
his discoveries. Though he also never found the treasure, his

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notes became the foundation for all modern searches.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Decades later, exactly in the nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Eighties, thing two men, Ron and Mick took up the quest.
The Ron is a camping guide and a historian, and
Mitch studied Mitchell's notes the early nineteen twenties guy and
compared them to modern maps. He discovered many rivers and

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landmarks had had their names changed since the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yes, so let's get this straight. This is where my
problem goes. I know, so Mitchell, it's a guy from
the twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yes, John Mitchell from the twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
He did all these writings of this story has found anything, though,
But it appears that this story that Unsolved Mysteries is
telling us is from the writings of John Mitchell, who
wasn't there. So it's just possible this guy made this
up because we have no other resources of this story

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except for the guy that wrote it sixty years later. Supposedly, Yeah,
and wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
I mean, I guess maybe if Adams, because he continued
according to this, went on to search.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
According to Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Yeah, but he died penniless and stuff, So I don't know.
Maybe there's some records of the crazy man down or.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Mitchell wrote that all that he died penniless. Yeah, we
have no idea, but that's the whole quest is from
these guys. The prospectors that are interviewed are chasing the
notes from a guy that wasn't there, who's retelling the
story exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
So their research points them to Eagle Creek, which is
a rugged area two hundred miles north of Tucson, which
would be like Phoenix area.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
It depends Phoenix is like northwest.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah, I don't know. So in January of nineteen ninety,
these two men make their own way into that canyon.
They did find a narrow entrance that twisted through the
cliffs just as Adams had described. There was even a
dry cascade where there was once a waterfall. Nearby, They

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found remnants of a cabinet, a cabin, rusted tools, and
a section of old railroad track. For a moment, they
even believed they were standing in the very spot that
adams men struck gold. But of course, despite their search
and the excitement with each discovery, they never found a

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single trace of gold or the legendary coffee pot that
is said to be buried beneath a hearth. So could
John Mitchell, the railroad man who docked coumented his own
failed expeditions, have found the gold and then never told
neone no? Or was the entire story simply a mirage

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in the desert and a prospector's dying dream and passed
down and retold and has now just become legends?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Okay, so all right? Update date? Who found the treasure? Sierra?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Today, the legend of Lost Adam's digging remains one of
Southwest or Arizona's greatest mysteries.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
What's still a mystery?

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Historians still debate whether even this story is true or not,
shocking because or like I believe that it's possible that
a lot of Phistorians believe that this was an example
of frontier folk lore shaped by greed, heat depression, also

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helping to, you know, continue just the lure of the
wild wild West storytelling. Yeah, modern treasures hunter. Treasure hunters do, though,
continue to search the Eagle Creek area, convinced that the
gold is buried somewhere beneath the rocks and the sagebrush.

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Others have pointed out that even if there had at
one point been any sort of gold there, that due
to flash floods, erosions and time in this region of
the United States, all traces of anything there is long gone.
So it's not something. The truth died with Adam himself,

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a man forever haunted by a canyon of gold that
he could not find a second time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
And that's not a very good wild westman if you
can't find your way back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Wild bananas, that he went there once and couldn't find
his way.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Back, Yeah, that's makes me think it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
True if this was a legitimate outdoorsman. Yeah, those are things.
I get that your guide got you there the first time,
but also you would have been able to get there again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yeah, okay, so you guys, that is it that Season three,
episode fifteen. Thank you so much for hanging out with
me and Ben. If you want to, this is your cue.
You may exit stage left. If not, you are welcome
to hang around for a little bit of chitty chat.

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And the part of the episode where I ask Ben
a question. Okay, Benjamin, if you had to work at
Disneyland on a ride or an attraction, which one would

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you pick? Mmmm?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
It doesn't look fun on any of them, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Says the most. Yeah, you are not a social Disney
You are not a Disney person as far as like
the character and embodiment of Disney. But you have to
pick a ride or an attraction that you have to
work as an employee? Which one are you picking?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
The Rise of the Resistance because you're actually I mean,
if you're going to have to be do something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah, the people Rise of Resistance in Disney World in
Florida are amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
We're awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Disneylands down.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yeah, if you've ever ridden that ride, like part of
being in Line is a ride anyways, most people probably know.
But that's what I'm saying is we went on it
in Florida. And then we went on it here in Disneyland,
in the way the work worked it in Florida made

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it a lot of fun just getting to the ride.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yeah, they're the bad guys, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
And the ones in Disneyland just worked it as workers.
And it kind of ruins the lead up to it,
because the whole lead up is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
It you yourself are a prisoner to the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Yeah, and you're getting and they were terrible at it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
The ones in Florida treated you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
They were yelling at you like it was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
They made it fun. So I mean, if I have
to work a round, I would just prefer not to.
But if I had to, I would rather at least
do something where you you actually make it entertaining and
fun for the people because everyone else is just standing
there and like how many in your group like this?
This is like that? But that one while you're in line.

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The workers actually have to like attempt to do that
or han a mansion because lost them. Yeah all right,
what about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You Haunted mansion? But do you know why why the costume?
I know, the female employees at Disneyland, the costumes that
they get to wear at Haunted mansion are amazing, So
that's why I would pick that one. And while you
do do some outside time in California, just get hot.

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I can't imagine being like in the outdoor roller coasters
and stuff like that. It's so hot in the summer.
I'd be miserable working outside like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
But the only thing about Haunted Mansion and several of
the other wise, so you know, like that one in
the buzz light, you get onto that moving track and
you get into the thing walking on that. Can you
imagine walking constantly walking but never going anywhere? That's gotta

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And I'm sure that they switch out. I think they
switch out like every twenty thirty minutes. Yeah, so you're
not doing it all day, but that just walking in place.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Yeah, because we've ridden rights back to back and not
seen the same employees a second time through.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
But I will say this, I've also said I would
I hate standing in one place. I would rather be moving,
So I mean, I guess maybe I would rather be
that person, but at least I'm moving my feet in standing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
And then the original tower of tear of the employees,
the original the ones that specifically like give you the
directions as the door is closing. Yeah, those ones are
fun too, yeah, tower so, And there's also a part
of me that I would love to once my kids
are all out of the house stuff. I want to

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go work as either the fairy godmother or as one
of the like evil step Evil Queens or something like that.
Those in Coroella Deville when they come out and interact
with people, they are so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, they do a good job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
So all right, guys, Well that is our episode and
Ben and I will be back here again next week,
hopefully if Ben can get his app together to recap
another episode of Unsoltsters. Bye.