The Gray Man, Missing: David Stone, Reincarnated part 2 & Gold Leaf Lady

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everybody, I'm Sierra, and welcome back to another episode
of The Unsolved Couple, where every week Ben and I
recap one of your original gateway drugs in true.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Prime unsolved mysteries.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Every time we start to record, like I, all of
a sudden, I have to breathe. I have to take
some deep breast deep breaths.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Should we all everyone stay at the moment and if
you can close your eyes, no, I got it, Like
I have a sniff, I have an itch.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm not comfortable.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
All of a sudden, this is like everything's at a ten.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, m h Yeah. We do our intro and I'm like, do.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
You want me to pause it so you can like
let all your bodily functions.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Taken of once I get in and I'm good. But
we start and it's just a hot.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Mess story of my life. Yeah, always a hot mess.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, You're perfect and everywhere?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh thanks love?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Season three, episode seven, that's what?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yes, yeah, right, you've got to be excited about this.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
We're here. Yes, I am excited about this episode because
this episode originally aired on Halloween night. It is actually,
from my understanding, the only time an Unsolved Mysteries episode
was on Halloween and they they laid into it.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
They embraced the spooky.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
It was a This is clearly a much funner Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Last week, sorry, guys, one is one.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah my stories.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean it's sad, it is. But yeah, as far
as the terrible things at times we have to talk
about in Unsolved Mysteries, it's it's not the worst story
out there. There's no children involved in this one, thankfully,
unlike last week that was pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, any fun stories between here and there that you
want to share with everyone who cares.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, just I'll give a people a little sneak peek
about what they're about to get. Okay, if you guys
remember the story of the reincarnated Lady Georgia Rudolph.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
If you haven't listened to that episode, you need to
go back and listen to it.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Find that episode. Couldn't tell you which one it is,
it's not too far back. I could probably look it
up and go listen to that one. Okay, then come
back and listen to this one. Because we have a continuance.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's going to be season two, episode sixteen, and we don't.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Have them number. We don't have them numbered.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, it was June tenth, and it's called Reincarnation Comma
the Murder of Steve Senlin and Thumper the drug Dealer.
I thought that was the craziest name for a drug dealer.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I think it's an awesome But go listen to that one,
because today we got an update continuation of that one.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Ben's excited about it.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I don't know, I'm excited about it. But here's the thing.
I actually did know this when I was doing the research.
I'd come across this, but I didn't want to dive
into it. I wanted it to come.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
And Ben's been teasing me for forty eight hours that
he has four hours it feels like forty eight that
he has a story to tell us about this, about this,
and but wouldn't give me any hints. So we're all
going to learn about it together and Ben's gonna start
us off. So Ben, you have the floor.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'm starting.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I know you because we literally talked about this no
less than four minutes ago. And Ben was actually the
one that said you went first last week, so I'll
go first today. And then he's like, I gotta get
my note.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, they get comfortable. Don't don't rush me, all right.
I'm a sensitive man.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
A sensitive man. I don't think anyone has ever called
you that in your entire life.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's probably true. Right, are you ready to hear about
the Gray Man?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I've been ready for a little while now.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't think everyone else that's listening is ready yet.
They're still trying to get comfortable. Okay, all right, we're
gonna hear about the Gray Man on Polly's Island in
South Carolina, all right. And this he's a legend out there.
Have you ever heard of this?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I had actually never heard about this. But I didn't
grow up on the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't grow up out there. Okay, you know,
Robert stat comes in. He talks about ghosts and legends,
and usually they're scary, you people, you know, they're terrified
with the Gray Man. He's not a bad guy. Okay,
he's actually a good guy. He's a good ghost. He's

(05:50):
kind of the early versions of Casper. No, Casper is
a friendly ghost.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
He might be friendly. All right, So unless.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
He can ask me, can I keep you? I don't
want anyone compared.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
To Casper, all right, Oky, So the legend of the
Gray Man starts in the summer of eighteen twenty two,
when a young man was riding to a plantation on
the island and he had to get there because he's

(06:28):
about to get married to his young bride. This was
a quote from Robert Stack.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
He I, you know, I think Robert Stack was a
romantic at heart.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just think he was so elegant. I know the
way he spoke or the writers.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I have a feeling. Here's the thing. There are some
things that he said that I'm like, I can only
imagine he rolled his eyes having to say that. But
then other times I'm like, oh, I think that was him.
I should do some research to see how much of
his copies did he write. I'd be interested.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
What are you talking.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm going through our new downloaded places so that I'm
ready to go when it's me.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
You weren't ready when we started.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's late, dear, all right, he says, this was a
quote he was He's trying to get there quick because
Robert Snack tells us he was overcome with youthful emotion
and impatience.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That made me think, listen, what do you.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Think he was impatient about in eighteen twenty two.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think he wanted, I'm trying to think of something
we can't anyways, so he wanted to play patty Cake,
all right, and everyone who smiled, just now, we'll know
exactly what that reference is, correct, And got the biggest

(08:05):
grin on his face when I said it was like
a teenage boying idiot grin too.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I love it, all right. He fell off his horse
and he drowned in the market, and so you know,
this is a tragedy right before his wedding and his impatience.
So you know, his bride to be, she's devastated. She

(08:38):
ends up going out and she just wanders the shore
alone looking for her, you know, the ghost of her fiance.
And supposedly she saw a shadowy figure on the beach
and then that night she heard a voice from this

(08:59):
thing that dream says, leave the island, the wind is coming.
So supposedly the next day they left the island and
a hurricane hit and they come back. They think all
their possessions, their plantation is gone. Nope, nothing happened to

(09:22):
the plantation. It was spared there you go, all right,
So that's the legend. Of it.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's the lure.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah. Then we get another story at the turn of
the century. There was a man and he was saying,
he says, as he's walking along, he's hurting animals off
the island because supposedly there's a storm coming. He sees
a man walking along the marsh whatever or whatever he is,

(09:56):
and he says, hey, mister, you get better get out here,
there's a storm. Get here. And he just ignores him
and keeps walking. Okay, okay, And he's like, fine, do
what you want. Yeah. Right, hurricane comes and they go

(10:16):
back the plantation for that family with the animals.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, spared, nothing happened, nothing happened.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
All right. Nineteen fifty four, Well, I'm trying to in
my nuts here the Hurricane Hazel, and this lady tells
us that he was seen along the beach. She was

(10:52):
walking down the beach, or she tells us of the
story of someone that saw him walking down the beach.
The day before the hurricane Hurricane Hazel comes. Everyone's else's
house is destroyed, but destroyed. This man's house was spared,

(11:13):
spared to the point she says, there was even towels
still hanging over like the balcony.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, like literally nothing, she said, I think like their
back door blue open, Like that was it all right?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Fast forward September twenty second, nineteen eighty nine, Hurricane Hugo
is common, okay, and it hits the caroline. It's a
massive one one hundred and thirty five miles per hour.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's so much wind.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, nine thousand homes were destroyed and at that point
they said billions of dollars, which, yeah, yeah, of damage
is done terrible. But we meet these people. We actually
get to talk to Jim and Clara Moore and they

(12:04):
show back up. Their neighborhood is destroyed, sorry, and get
to their house. Nothing, nothing is wrong with it. And
they're just like what, no way, and they're like, how
did this happen? And they then remember two days prior,

(12:28):
they were walking down the beach and he said, it's
usually pretty busy, but it wasn't that day. There was
practically no one on the beach.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
The beach was empty, and.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
They see a guy coming. Did you notice what he said?
M M, I thought you'd pick up.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Now what did he say?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
He says, he sees the guy coming and he says, well,
you just you have to say hello.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's a very South Carolina sorta trait. Yeah, you can't
walk past someone and and not be respectful enough to
like acknowledge that he has.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
To say hello obviously.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, that's that's the South.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
For a lot in a lot of places. So he
goes to say hi to the guy and poof like
as they're passing, he disappears, and both him and his
wife what is going on? And this had happened two
days prior, and they're like, this must have been there
And I did? I do it again? I love what

(13:31):
he said. He goes. He said, our house was spared
by you. I want to say it was spared by
the power of the Gray Man. He goes, but he
was also spared by the Lord. Of course.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's again in the South wa And I was.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Like, yeah, you know, of course, And he said, he goes.
I never believed in kasts, but after what I've seen,
I do now. Yeah. So is there a man that
walks the beaches and warns people or just is a good,
good omen or a good look for people?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Before Guardian Angel whatever you want to call it, and
called the Gray Man trying to save people so that
they don't lose their life like he did on the beach.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, except for you know, nine thousand people did lose everything.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Sugar, Huh, that's too bad, dang it.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, but one at least the moors, yeah, was spared.
So that's the legend of the gray Man.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
All right, any update on it?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
What do you think? What do you think? The update is,
of course it's a ghost. Yeah, so that he's still
very much believed.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I was going to say this from my understanding, I
didn't do a ton of research about this, but this
is a widely like accepted and.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So I did send you, so I was you send
me a couple of screenshots. So before Hurricane Florence and
twenty eighteen, there is a picture from some type of
kind of a shadowy figure walking along a looks like
you do of something. Yeah, And of course everyone in

(15:14):
South Carolina or that it's sharing it say, is a
gray Man. Yeah, but there's no actual stories of anyone's
house being spared.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
But you know, I'm gonna guess not everybody. I don't know.
I don't know anything about Hurricane Florence, so I don't know.
And then in twenty twenty two, I'm trying to think
what hurricane. I'm not sure which I I'm not sure
which hurricane. I should have wrote that down. But there

(15:44):
is also another picture of a man, just a dark
figure walking along the beach. Obviously, people, these are not great.
This literally could just be a human being walking on
the beach. But of course this surfs and everyone's like, it's.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
The Great Man. You know, I have a great idea.
You know this new trend now with minor league baseball
teams having silly names. Okay, if there is a team
in South Carolina, they should name themselves the great Man.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah that would be pretty awesome. But yeah, I mean,
of course this is these We're on Facebook or Twitter
or whatever. I found them in an.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Article X Bloomer.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Okay, sorry, and uh, this is like the news, the news. Actually,
that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Seems to be this like bull love it. Remember it
was like the ghost lights in Texas. It's just like, yeah,
this is our ghost and he keeps something safe for
each tries to warn people or what have you. Not.
Did you look and see if there was actually any
real correct origin if some guy died on the beaches
down there, not.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That we can find, Okay, not not that, No, solidified.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
So records or story of this okay?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, no name to the gray Man.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, what are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Uh? I don't know. I do believe in ghosts, Yeah,
I do believe. I mean I've said this before, and
I believe in a world after this. So I do
believe people walk the the earth. At times, I don't.
I don't. I don't know if there's someone going out
and protecting I don't know. I'm here for the legend.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, and I love that the town has embraced it.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
It just embraces it and is good with it. And
you know what, if thinking you see something is a
good omen for you and good comes from it and
it causes no harm in your community or your beliefs,
I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah. So well, if anyone's from that area and has
any stories or experiences with it, please reach out and
let us know.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, you read it?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Is that it? You're done. You got everything tied up
in a bow. I think so you feel satisfied with that, Okay.
I Before I tell you about a story about a
man named David Stone, I will let you know the
new places we've been downloaded. So if you're joining us
for the first time or recently have and you downloaded us,

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and or you downloaded us while you were out and
about traveling around. We're glad to have you. So Point Verte, Florida,
Point Green, Florida. I only know that one word in Spanish.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Boring.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oregon. Yes, guys, there is a town in Oregon name Boring,
and its namesake represents the town for sure. It's not
a lot to do there, all right. Dunstable. That's in England. Oh,
good night. There's a town in Wisconsin, and I'm going
to say it looks like June, June, Juna j u

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n e au. What's au at the end of a word.
I don't know. That's in Wisconsin. Villa Parks, Illinois. Villa Park, Illinois.
Excuse me, Illinois, Illinois. There is an s on the
end of Illinois. Reach out to us, Illinois and let

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us know what you.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Think they're not going to because you just said they're
staying wrong. Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Caddicott, Wales. I guarantee you that's not how it is said.
But cal cal Dicott, Caldicott, Caddicott, Cali Coott, Wales, Fayetteville, Georgia,
and Brandon, Florida. So welcome, welcome, all right, I'm going

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to tell you a story of a missing man named
David Stone, which just sounds like an awesome I think,
like your last name is Stone, like so many cool things.
I'm here for it. So he was a twenty nine
year old successful stock stock market analyst from La Joya, California,

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also another place near and dear to my heart and
love that place, who was deep into the New Age
movement as he sought spiritual guidance movement. It's crystals and
like Native American spiritual beliefs and connecting to the earth

(20:49):
and astrology signs, stuff like that. Very like seventies early
eighties sort of thing. Okay, a lot of cults got
formed at the time because people were looking for non
religious religion. Does that make sense? Okay, Yeah, So for

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years he had struggled with control and anger issues, and
there's a couple of stories that they share about him
kind of just being known as a hothead. We're going
to find out later that he played a lot of
football growing up, and what do we know about football

(21:36):
players from that time? What do you think.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
You don't know? You got hit in the head a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
There you go, and what's Brett Farb has been really
big about this now, right, He's got like a big
You're looking at me like I'm a crazy person. Have
you not heard about this? He's helped a lot with
doing research and trying to share and educate I think
the harms of head injuries in football. Yes, and so

(22:05):
I to me when I first kind of when I
hear of someone who for they don't understand why. And
this is not just anger issues like he loses his
temper easy, We're going to go to find out that
he had a violent outburst with his roommate and beat
the cred out of him. So it's not just like
he gets mad in traffic and flips somebody off or

(22:27):
throws a book out the window. I don't know, but
he cannot stop hisself. Did you just wink at me?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
No? I didn't.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I think you involuntarily winked at me, And I was like,
what am I missing?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You're not missing anything anyways, I'm listening.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
That's just my personal two cents because I actually read
a few things about this guy, and that's what I
just wanted to put out there. So this all kind
of comes to a head. October twenty eighth, nineteen eighty eight.
That was the day he was at his apartment and
he got into an argument with one of his friends

(23:05):
and violently hitting him repeatedly, over and over and over again.
And this was like the breaking point of his violent outbursts.
That day, David told us friends and family that his
behavior was starting to like really get to him, and
he had thought about going on a walk about to

(23:26):
reflect on his conduct and said he would return in
a few days. According to a deputy sheriff, Bill the
investigating officer, on the morning.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Of October thirty one, Halloween.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Nineteen eighty eight, he walked into the desert. And this
is a weird point of reference, but I'm going to
give it to you, Like they said to us, one
hundred and forty five miles east of Tucson, Arizona. It's
not a weird like this is I think in New
Mexico by this time.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
And be by last crucis. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I was, like, what a weird point of reference. But
that's what Unsolved Mysteries tells us. At around dawn, a
farmer spotted who they believed to be David walking down
a dirt road. The farmer pulled over it briefly chatting
with him, as it was seldom for him to see

(24:25):
random people in this remote part of New Mexico. David
told him that he was looking for the beast.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
The beast, all right, the farmer a clarification on We.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Don't get any more clarification on that. The farmer like
asked him if he needed a ride anywhere or anything
at all like that, and he said no. Throughout the day,
there was also several other local residents that had seen
him and interacted with him in and around that same
desert area. He was acting str rangely. He had been

(25:01):
talking to himself walking through rough terrain. And I will
say the other thing that farmer said is, now, this
is October in the high desert. I think people assume
they hear Arizona and Tucson, New Mexico, all of this
stuff that it's just here's the thing. It's hot here

(25:21):
a lot.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
But in the high desert in the wintertime, our temperatures
can range like it could be eighty degrees, but at
night it can get down into the twenties. It's these
weird extremes that can be very dangerous, and the farmers
saying he was wearing shorts and a T shirt, which
not what you would wear if you were going to

(25:44):
be out and about in the mountains in the middle
of October, not at night.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Not at night.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Absolutely. So five days later, his car was found abandoned
along the desolate stretch of New York Mexico Highway, fourteen
miles south of Road Fork, New Mexico Road Fork Road Forks.
There's an US on that one too, you're gonna look

(26:11):
it up.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'm just curious of where exactly this is.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, so they didn't say this in the episode. He
was actually driving to El Paso. Originally he was living
in La Joya and La Joya to Tucson is about
a six seven hour drive, and that's like with traffic
and everything. He was supposed to be the best man

(26:39):
in his best friend's wedding in El Paso, Texas a
few days later, so he had told his family and
friends he was going to leave spend a few days
doing this spiritual quest before finishing his journey on to

(27:00):
El Paso. And he actually stopped in Tucson and pulled
cash out of an ATM here and actually you like
at midnight and then are on four in the morning,
filled up his car and paid cash at a gas station.
So they tracked him from La Jolla to Tucson. And
the thing that's crazy is that from here, if he

(27:20):
was going to New Mexico El Paso, he should have
headed southeast, and he didn't. He went towards New Mexico,
which is east east.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
No, that's the way you go.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
You go through El Paso to go to New Mexico.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, El Paso is east of New Mexico. You got
to drive through New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh, New Mexico, Okay, to Texas.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
So you take I ten all the way, you go through,
end up through Las Crusis, and keep going. You hit
El Paso.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Okay, got it, got it. So I've only driven that
way once, but I'm just looking this.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Hes just across the New Mexico border and this high
Way eighty hits Iten, So he was just south of Iten.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Okay. Yeah, so he's on the right path as far
as to his ending destination. He didn't because like the
one guy we talked about that was from Washington, right,
that was trying to get down where he went off
in Wyoming somewhere this guy was en route and on
the correct path he was supposed to be going to.

(28:24):
So David's family believed that he had gone on what
you call a vision quest, which is common amongst people
in the New Age movement. I looked up what a
vision quest entails. M sounds it involves going out and
missus Ben, as someone who works and has rescued people

(28:46):
out in the desert, is going to hate this, but
it involves going out into the desert alone for days
at a time with no food or water, in hopes
to connect with like spiritual ancestors and to have visions. Ben,
what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Oh, this is a terrible idea.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
He's like, please just don't do that in and around
two sun area. I don't want to have to come rescue.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Just don't do that.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, it's a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
It never ends.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Well, no, it doesn't. And yeah, So because I was
even interested, because there's nothing in here that says at
all and any way, shape or form that he was
known to use drugs or if he was experimenting with
LSD or mushrooms or whatever have you. And so I

(29:42):
was trying to see all of the vision quest things
that I read about even on Reddit, none of them
involved taking all mine alternating substance. The things I found
about using peyote out in the desert doesn't involve a
vision quest. That's like a sweat lodge and a whole
different thing. So they are two different they are two

(30:03):
different sort of ways to have visions out in the desert.
So there's your New Age juju stuff that I got
for you. So it was discovered that David had left
several mysterious clues after he vanished that appeared to be
related to his New Age philosophies. First, he left his
car near a pyramid shaped mountain. Pyramids are important symbols

(30:27):
in this movement. As the search for him began, the
trail head northwest from his car towards Granite Peak, searchers
found a pyramid of rocks surrounded by a triangle. On
the next day, another pyramid was found in next to
David's watch.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
He left his.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
What's the fancy rolex? He left a roll x out
there in the desert, and two quarters.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, you don't need it.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You're on a vision quest. You don't need your rolex.
And two courts, three miles to the north. Searchers found
as string of numbers written in the sand and that
they are Fibonacci numbers. Okay, oh what that is, I
don't know. It says it's used by engineer or engineers

(31:15):
and stock market analysis. However, instead of it ending in
twenty one, which is what's supposed to, it had written
as eighteen. So everyone's at wondering if this is a
weird cryptic message like his football college and Jersey was eighteen. Anyways,
they're trying to figure out if this guy's sending hidden

(31:37):
messages in some way. Bloodhounds track David sent back to
Highway eighty. However, they stopped at the highway intersection between
eighty and Interstate ten, which is thirteen miles north of
where his car was found. Well. Looking through the items,
his parents found a strange business card in a pocketbook
and a bible. It belonged to a man named Tony,

(31:59):
who was interrogated by the police but claims he'd never
met David. He had actually been camping in the area
several days before, and David, excuse me, sorry, Tony, uh,
I read later he had gone camping out in the
desert with a group of friends, and he had gone

(32:20):
in early to help like set up camp, and he
had said he'd left his business cards sticking like in
between a rock somewhere so that his buddies who were
coming in later knew where to turn.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, he said something about that.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah, So he wasn't sure if like he had picked
up the business card or whatever, but they it. It
deemed he had nothing to do with anything. So David's
parents also found a really weird note that he had written.
And it makes zero sense, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Read it to you. They think the word.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Is in the safe six knives in Rob's room. Use
buy your tea and use take your chances.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Halloween. It's riddle.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, I don't know what it means. I don't think
anyone knows what they mean. Halloween also just happened to
be the day that David himself vanished. To this day,
nobody knows what happened to him or why he acted
strangely before he disappeared. And that's where unsolved Mysteries leaves us.

(33:32):
The man walks out into the desert on Halloween and
it's never seen again, looking for the beast. That is
pretty eerie vision.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Quest.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, all right, update up date, unresolved, that's what it said.
So February twenty third, nineteen ninety two, two hikers discovered
David's skeleton remains in the desert near Granite Gamp Granite Resolve.

(34:02):
It's unresolved because they have no idea who, what, where,
when are why? Like? Because his body it was just
skealter remains, they cannot determine how he died, when he died,
if there was foul play involved. I'm going to go
out on a limb here, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
A man walked down into the desert with no food
or water, yep, in an area where he doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
And how twisted can the desert get once the sun
goes down? No GPS, shorts and a T shirt, rattlesnakes
like the desert you guys in these areas is no joke.
We have mountain lions and bobcats and rattlesnakes and plants

(34:57):
that leaves rashes on your bodies and bugs and it's
not it's not easy to rain, no and like washes
that you can walk off the edge of a cliff
when it's pitch black outside and not see what is like.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Well, it's October thirty. First, it's November. The temperature swings
literally I'm not even exaggerating here. It can swing forty
to fifty degrees. Yeah, it's it can be seventy five.
Have you ever lived.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Anywhere before here that like swings so much in temperature,
It does a number to your body. Like that's when
our whole household gets sick, is when it's eighty two
during the day and then thirty six at night.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, it will easily swing forty degrees in a day.
So if you're out in the desert, I mean, the
sun goes down and it gets cold real quick, real quick.
And if you get in a walk that cold air,
it's worse. So I'm saying a lot of food sources.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
So I feel like predators are even more.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like I'm just going on a limb that he might
have been exposed to the elements with no resources and
that might have been the reason. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
The police eventually came out and said that they do
believe that the death is likely by misadventure is what
they called it, but it's considered unresolved because they have
no answers other than he died.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'll give them this at least they're willing to say
this because then if anything does come forward, yeah they can.
The cases technically is still open for them to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I mean his wallet, his keys, his money, everything that
they at least could find. There wasn't a lot left
because of animals. Yeah, nothing seemed to be taken off
him as far as that goes.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
But I found deer remains today and picked.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yeah, I think there's not That's what I meant when
like the predators that live in the desert, their food
sources are hard to find, so they.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
The bones were so clean today.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Oh really yeah, yeah, freshly picked. The mom is interviewed.
It broke my heart to see her because she was
like just wanting to under I mean, their son is
there one day and literally clearly.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Was going through a lot, and it's unfortunate. I'm not
I'm not here to tell anyone how to try to
get right, because we all have our own ways. I
do wish it when people try to get right they
still be smart about it, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, tell someone what you're doing, where you're going to
be packed food, and please do not go into the desert.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
With no water. We're into somewhere where you going to
put yourself in danger, you know, yeah, yourself at rest.
I'm not here to tell someone to get how to
do that. But it is too bad that.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It is interesting was seen during the day acting erratically.
That is a sign that you have that your body
is going through major dehydration.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
And like, it's just too bad that that's how it ended.
You know, It's it's okay to try to find yourself whatever,
like I said, trying to get yourself in a good,
good space and make a change. It's just too bad

(38:41):
that we love a.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Good therapeutized human being nowadays, however that means to you,
but please be safe about it. And it makes me
sad that this man, unfortunately was trying to find his foot,
find his you know, footing behind him or underneath him,
and square with himself in several ways and and maybe
try to make himself a better person, and it ultimately

(39:02):
ended up costing him his life.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, and it hurt the people pray and the people around. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Absolutely, all right, what story do you have next for us?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
All right? And I got the continuation of dot dot
dot carnation.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, do you want to give any background at all? Like,
do you want to give.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Okay, I'm not going to go into great detail because
we have talked about it. Well, we did talked, you
said back in June about Georgia, Rudolph Georgia and does
she does she? How's her voice? Well?

Speaker 1 (39:47):
You know, I couldn't stand it actually be that. Can
we apaust for a second so I can go fill
up my water? Okay, we're back. I got my water.
Do you know another trees? They do not put ice
in their water?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Where do they get off? Do they know what they're
missing with ice water? Do they understand?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Could you like that? That was a good one, very good,
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I just feel like the world doesn't understand the joy
of ice water.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, you're probably right, But.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
I'm just finding out that it's something like people make
fun of Americans for you know what, people make fun
of us.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
So that's fine.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
I just think that that is such a weird thing.
But I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
We are.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
We are the outsiders. This is not the norm. And
I don't just have two ice cubes in here. This
thing is chocked full of ice. Well it's water, I know,
and it's better when it's ice cold. Yeah all right, sorry,
continue with your updated reincarnation.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
You're ready for update? Are you ready for reincarnation? Okay? So,
like I said, we told you about the story of
Georgia Rudolph. She says that her whole life she had
been plagued with visions of the turn of the century
of this girl. You know, she would draw pictures.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I'll do horse drawn carriages, Yeah, a boat boat, a
steamer boat.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Steamer boat, a man and a Derby hat. What I
don't understand Derby hats. Okay, sorry, I guess I just.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Think it's discussionable at the time. Probably anyways, So she
it was probably equivalent equivalent to a baseball hat on backwards.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Noah, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
No, it was a turn of the century who were
their hat famously backwards. What is that music singer right now?
That Riley Riley Green? No, I don't know the country singer. Well,
who you're talking about that walks into the house and
throws the roses? Riley Green? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Okay, are you ready? Yeah, you're just singing about Riley Green.
I'm just singing about you your hat.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I'm singing about you with your hat on backwards.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
All right, Well, this guy wears a Derby hat Okay,
so Georgia Rudolph went through regressive hypnosis therapy again. Who
came up with this?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I don't know, bab.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
And why did we run with it?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Anyways, So she then with doctor excuse me, I'm very sorry,
doctor Douglas Smith. He's a clinical psychologist. Uh huh, I'm worried,
and she ends up telling him a story of Sandra
Jean Jenkins, that that's who she was in her paste

(43:01):
and now she's been reincarnated to Georgia Rudolph. But she
was Sander Jeane Jenkins, obviously, and she was engaged to
a man by the name of Tommy Hicks. Okay, there's
a lot more to this story. I went deep into it,
but I'm getting go back and check it out. And

(43:23):
Tommy Hicks had drowned in the Ohio River off this
steamboater and Sandra Jeane Jenkins, Okay, I am telling you this,
this is all not true. Okay, just don't take this
is true.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
If you're not going to go back and listen to
the episode, then doesn't buy a single lick of what
this lady's selling.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Nope, absolutely not. So Sandra Jeane Jenkins is going to
marry Tommy Hicks. But she was pregnant with Tommy Hicks.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Of course she was.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Back then. It is a scandal. Tommy drowns and Sandra
just can't take it, so she just walks out into
the river and drowns herself. And that is your Romeo
and Juliet story of what happened.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Okay, And now she's been reincarnated, and.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
She's been reincarnated. That was That was the very condensed
version of what Unsold Mysteries told us. Yep, Okay. Enter
John Turnock. Okay. John Turnock lives in Florida, and he's

(44:46):
sitting on the couch. She's thirty six years old, and
he's a professor. Okay. He's watching this broadcast at this time,
it had aired in February of nineteen ninety and he
tells us as he's watching, he's hearing the story and
he can't believe it. He says, he's like gripping the couch.

(45:12):
He's just getting so nervous. And his wife is watching him.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
And he's having a visceral reaction. A middle aged woman
sharing this story.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
She was she's forty, okay, she's forty. Georgia Rudolph is forty.
When she's telling us.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
This forty adjusted for forty and nineteen ninety adjusted for inflation,
you can't do. She is like, sixty three.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I mean forty is young, I said, adjusted for inflation.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
All right. So John is having a crazy reaction because
guess what, I'm watching TV.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
With you and a woman's on the screen and you
are gripping.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
The Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
No, we're going to be having a serious conversation with
the next commercial break.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Guess what what do you think? Why? Sir? Why would
John turn on be.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Because he was hearing his own story exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
He was hearing his story, his whole life feelings that
he'd been having. And let let this be known. John
had gone under hypnosis therapy. Everyone is in hypnosis therapy,
just like everyone's now. Probably what seeing a shrink of

(46:39):
some sort, Galilee. Everyone's in hypnosis therapy back in the eighties, okay.
And he went to see doctor Bruce.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Crystal classic last name. Yeah, you're a hypnotherapist and your
last name is Crystal. You leaned into.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
That, for sure, And supposedly he went in September of
nineteen eighty eight, over a year. Prime.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, he hadn't even heard this story been telling him about.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
He'd been having these visions and these dreams and these
feelings of river and a turn of the century and
boats and Tommy Hicks.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
You believe it.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
He was Tommy Hicks.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
He was Tommy.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
He's the reincarnated Tommy Hicks.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
We got a love story on our hands.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Can you believe this? No?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Actually, and here's the thing. I can believe a lot
of things, but these two I do not.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
You shouldn't, Okay, all right, hold on, all right. So
we we get doctor Douglas Smith back, and he goes John.

(48:00):
Is that his name John? Jack? Jack, Jack Turnock? Sorry, okay,
there's a lot of names because they're two people. I
could call him Tommy Hicks or Jack.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, Jack, same Tommy, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Tommy is Jack. Okay. He goes sees doctor Douglas Smith.
He gets hypnotized, and Douglas Smith, the doctor, the clinical psychologist.
He says, listen, I asked him all kinds of questions,
things that he shouldn't have known. Blah blah blah. He
thinks that Jack is telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Nobody could verify what he said because we never even
knew if this person existed in real life. So you
telling me he's saying things that he shouldn't know means
dibbili squivity.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
But they were I mean that, that's your story. There
they are? Is he Tommy Hicks? Is he the reincarnateor
Tommy Hicks? Is he this man?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Okay? Update?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Is this nothing?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
What?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
What do you what kind of do you want? I
don't know, So I gave you the update that Georgia
Rudoff then became a psychic who started solving murders and
made it onto another TV show. Yes, okay, yeah, right
this guy. I did find a man by the same
name who was a professor in Florida. Okay, still alive.
He ended up being in Oregon. If it's the same guy,

(49:33):
pretty sure it is. He like fell off a thing
into water, had to get rescued. But he made the
news a lot. There was multiple articles. He fell off something,
a cliff, fell in the water. He was had to
hold on to the side.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Can you imagine what he was thinking in that moment? Gosh,
darn it. I ended up in the same situation again.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Okay, so here's my for it. Okay, this is the
wild story it was a little because they mostly just
tell you the story of her, and then they bring
in this guy for literally two minutes and.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Say they basically just recapped the thing again and was like,
this guy also claims that.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
To be Tommy.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Okay, So I found an article did they ever meet
in person?

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I found an artist. I found this article about the
story of what happened and why Unsold Mysteries doesn't have it? Okay,
So there's it's this five page I will say this.
I mean, this is kind of like, don't you want

(50:45):
to give a disclaimer folder of someone doing an investigation
on this claim? Okay, story, Okay, it kind of gives
the background and then some of the things that had happened,
and then then kind of like gives this here's the
you know. But this is the section of this article.

(51:07):
This paper is called the Joint Session. Hold on, let
me and I'm going to read this. Okay, it's it's
a little long, just a fair with Okay. The apparent
link between his own past life recollection and those of
Georgia Rudolph stunned and perplexed Turnock. I didn't know what

(51:32):
to do with the information, he says, so he decided
to deal with it by not dealing with it, and
so six months past, six months past, until one day
he happened to turn on television only can only to
be confronted by yet another rerun of the disturbing unsold
mystery segment. Once again, Turnock was both fascinated and agitated

(51:56):
by the show. This time, his wife decided to do
something about it. About this disruption to her household, Shossi
wrote a letter to doctor Smith describing the situation. Smith
contacted the show producers, who ultimately decided that Turnock was
for real and then a follow up show should be
made in which Rudolph and Turnock would be videotaped during

(52:20):
during a joint hypnosis session. The filming, or rather the
attended film attempted filming was done in Smith's office and
maker and Georgia Turnock was not allowed to meet Rudolph
until after she he was regressed. During his regression, Turnock,

(52:44):
as Hicks, recalled many details about his life and death
on a riverboat named the n B. Forrest. Afterwards, Rudolph
asked him where Hicks had prumpt had proposed to Jenkins,
and where they were when she had gotten pregnant.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Turnock replied that the proposal took place on a bench
by the river. As for the conception, you walk from
Gordon Green's house away from town on the road by
the river. When you get to a cornfield, turn right.
There's a small bluff overlooking the river where they used

(53:35):
to go. That day they had a nice picnic in
the corner of the field does and that's where they
made love and Santra Jacob. According to Turnock, Rudolph's jaw
nearly hit the floor when I described what I described

(53:56):
was exactly what she had seen her hypnosis session. Isn't
a miraculous She never claimed that before, but.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Now that she heard, she's like, oh, my gosh, that's
exactly what I've seen.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay, Sorry, I go back to my quoting. In the afternoon,
doctor Smith hypnotized both Rudolph and Turnock together. Turnock described
the experience as being the weirdest part of all. We
both went under fairly easily, and we began talking to
each other as Tom and Sandra Jeane.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Why it was the most surreal experience of my life.
It was as if an It was as if another
person had taken over my body and I was watching
it happen. Tom told Sandra Jean how he was sorry

(54:52):
he left her that way. She forgave him. They they
we held hands, reiterated our love and said goodbye. It
was incredibly emotional. I was so drained, I couldn't move

(55:13):
for half an hour. Jim Lindsay, the Unsolved Mystery director,
was literally dancing around, saying it was the best sequence
they ever filmed. Trouble was, they did not actually film
the session. Although the equipment was turned on, the cables
were connected and the scene was showing on the monitor,

(55:37):
the videotape recorded nothing but static. How and why the
bill I lost my thing? How and why this bewildering failure.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
If you'd taken your notes on.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
A computer, How and why the bewildered failure occurred is
perhaps the biggest unsolved mystery of all that is nuts wild? What? What?
How do we not have that if that happened? Obviously

(56:16):
this is a story. Yeah, someone sounded legitimate on track
for these people.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
When they've at least interviewed the guy that was supposedly there,
like the producer that was there and been like, yeah,
I witnessed this unfortunately we had a technical error.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I don't know, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Also, if you if you went under hypnosis held hands
with another woman and professed your love to her and
how so, and had some weird emotional experience.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Talked about the time we were together.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I don't know where things would go after that. What
a weird And the wife started this ball.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I don't know. I'm just I'm bewildered by it.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Sounds like they were both one. It sounds like the
first the lady's a scam artist. It sounds like he
was having a midlife crisis. Yeah, obviously ended up. He
likes to end up in the river at times. Apparently,
I don't know, learn to swim my guy.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
I don't know. It is a what this like I said,
it was just the update.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Is a swimming listener too, in both lives.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yes, maybe the next one. He's definitely going to get it.
Oh well, he was saved, he was okay, he didn't
die from that this one. He was rescued. But yeah,
wild story. That is wild that they brought that. I mean,
I was surprised when they said this. I was like, wait,
why aren't we seeing them like together?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I know that's that's the only thing I was excited for.
So that's why I do think that session was weird.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah yeah, and they attempted it but lost everything, and
you can't.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I just would have loved to see him like hugging
each other and like talking to it, like I wanted
a non hypnotic like session. Yeah, I'd have been interested
to see.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Where that goes. So the reincarnated Tommy Hicks, you think
they ever hooked up? I'm not even going to entertain
that thought.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
These emotions going left and right in that room from
a past life.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Yeah, that's not who they are today. Okay, okay, that's
not who they.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
It wasn't really cheating because it was like, that was
my past life person hooking up with his past life beyance.
So it doesn't count, babe. Can you imagine someone using
that excuse? That's what the cold Play guy needs to
That wasn't me, that's the guy for my past life.

(59:05):
All right, Okay, you ready to learn about a woman
named Katie?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Oh yeah, I dug old stop, I dug that's all
the information about her that we have is Katie the
gold Leafing.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Don't tell us where she's from, but I did find
out where she's I did also find out she's from Florida.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Yep, that's with the weird people in Florida, Florida.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Are you okay? Now? You know you can't do that.
There is weird people everywhere.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
I understand, But in this alone, we've got reincarnated dude
and Katie both from Florida.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yea Georgia or athlete is not from Florida, She's from
somewhere else. Is this a bunch of weird people? Crazy?
There's crazy people out in the world.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Okay, So this is labeled as an unexplained a Florida
housewife name any air quotes. Katie has been able to
one predict the future, two write in foreign language is
unknown to her. Three produce golden gems out of thin air.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
No, there's no reason to you. I said, what normal
things people can do? Produce golden gems out of thin air?

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
But she's just a lonely housewife yep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Okay. So she claims that her first unusual experience occurred
back in nineteen seventy four, when she saw a random
man walk through her house while she was in the
kitchen doing the dishes walk past her and into her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Bedroom, and she didn't think that was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Nope. She turned the water off on the sink, turned
heel casually walked into her bedroom as one does when they.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
See a strange stranger in their house.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And to her surprise, she couldn't find him. And it
was weird because the windows were locked. He had just disappeared.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Okay, time out. What would a normal person do if
a man walked into my house? Saw a man walk
through your hallway, and then you went looking for him
and you couldn't find them? Would you say No? I'd
my chands and say maybe I should get out of

(01:01:30):
the house and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Call nine ones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
If I was in the kitchen, i'd have a knife
in my hand as well. I wouldn't be chilling she was,
according to her, chill just chill.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
No, I would have the opposite reaction and the last
thing I would do unless there was something I would
unless my children were back here. If a man walked
past me and walked down the hallway to my bedroom,
I am not following him, so and yeah, and then
I'm quickly calling the cops. However, several days later, she's
home and her husband brings out an old family photo album. So,

(01:02:10):
all right, kids, back in the day before cell phones,
where how many photos do you have on your phone?
Right now? I thought this would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Well, I mean, I've had a iPhone for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Same, let me see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Two thousand and ninety five, and my first one goes
back to let's see, I think it starts in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Okay, do you want to take a guess how many
photos they have on my phone?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
It can only man, it's like thirty thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Okay, well that's a little much, turner, calm down, fifteen
thousand inflation, just for inflation. An old timey and mine
starbuck though my first photos from twenty eleven on here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah, but that's not from yeah because I had a
n iPhone.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
It's a picture of selfie in the mirror when I
was nine months pregnant with the twins twenty eleven. Okay,
but back in the old days before you just had
photo albums on your phone. With a couple photos, you
had to put him in a book, printed them out,
put him in a book, and we called these photo albums.

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And her husband brings out a family photo album while
looking through it, she sees the man that walked through
her house and she says, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
That's him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
That's the guy that walked into my bedroom the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Other night that I wasn't worried about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
And he's like, that's impossible. That's my father and he's
been dead for years. She reminds me of the old
did you ever hear that hitch hiking story? Maybe like
a girl picks up a hitchhiker and she's like, he's like,

(01:04:14):
can you drop me off? Da da da da? And
then she recognizes him later because for years. Yeah, and
obviously she had never met this man before. And so
what does that tell us about her?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
She's a psychic? Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
A few months later, Kate went to the police to
an investigator named Jerry, And Jerry's a big fan of Katie.
And I don't know if she inserted herself into this
conversation or if he had heard about her. We don't
get any background on that, but somehow they do not

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give any details. Somehow she's a to identify the home
of where burglary had taken place.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Why why? I just want to why is she in this?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
We don't get any more information, and of what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Use is this you're quizzing her? Yeah, he says, he
tells the story.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
And identified that a jewelry box was stolen, But.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
He originally says that she led him to the house.
She didn't know the house, and she said it's right here, Like,
why are you testing her like that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, you know where the break in happened? Well, I
would hope so, yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I completely forgot. Can you just help me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I'm worried.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
I am too, And she identified that a jewelry box
was stolen from a home break in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Wow, that that's mind blowing. I know, you tell me,
people take it back in the eighties, people take jewel
boxes out of houses. Yep, why didn't you say the
flat scream was don't I don't know? That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Then it's a plasma screen and it's got on a
swive like and pull it out on the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Finally broke down, brought this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
All right. So later that day, for some reason, she's
still in this car with Jerry, Detective Jerry. They're just
driving around the town of Mysterious, Florida, just looking for crime,
looking for crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Looking if she detects a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Does Jerry need it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Batman is out there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Does he not have things to do in Florida? Is
there not alligators being tossed into drive through windows?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Where what is he doing with his life?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I don't know, I don't know's he's rolling around with
her seeing she throws up the bat signal, and she
detects a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Hass Well, she's going to She's going to detect a crime.
Kate Well in the car starts to smell devil's let us, No,
she says, did somebody hit a skunk?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
No, that's not happened.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
No, she smells marijuana. Done, done, done, although the police
officer could not smell marijuana. She then went on to
mention like she, you guys, no joke, has like her
head out the window like a dog and is smelling
and telling him where it gets stronger, and then like

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tells him stop stop, that's right through here. And she said,
marijuana is going to wash up on this beach in
two weeks. There you go. That's what she says.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Okay, what happened? Tell me, please don't say that marijuana
washed it. It did, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Yeah. Two weeks later, twenty five bags of marijuana wash up. However,
in my side research, I found that police had claimed
that this was a common occurrence.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Yeah, yeah, shocking that smugglers smuggle in the same area.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
And Florida beaches are well known to be that. Yeah,
it's a problem there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
So and I'm gonna guess it was a big problem
a little more back then.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Back then. Yeah, that would be like me telling you
ten years ago there's gonna be marijuana found in the desert.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
That's like saying there's going to be a bum on
this corner in La Yeah, he's gonna move in right
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Yeah, I mean you're stating something that everyone knows is
happening all the time. Okay, and then another weird thing
starts happening. This is where Katie gets most infamous. In
nineteen eighty six, Katie begins producing gold foil from her pores. No,

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she doesn't ben this was videotaped several times by her psychiatrist.
As this is what we are told on Unsolved Mysteries
that this is videotaped.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
In my recite research, it never happened, exactly, It never happened, Yes,
same thing. I was like, who who vetted this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Girl before she made it to unsolved Mysteries.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I don't know the producer that doesn't know how to
hook up the camp.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, the same guy. He's like, I'm already down here
in Florida, which the hicks man might as well get
this lady on. So it appears on her eyes, her face,
her ears, her mouth, her arms, her thighs, her stomach,
and her Nope, she's produced this more than one hundred
times she has. In some cases, it even appears on

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nearby objects, such as a framed picture of her deceased.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Mother on her tongue too right, yep, on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Her tongue, which I read and later research. Someone mentioned
that illusionists are really good about misleading people by paying
attention to one thing while they slide of hand something else.
And making you look at my tongue means that you're
not looking in the small of my back or what

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my hands are doing underneath my shirt or on my arms.
I thought that was like some guy brought up was like,
that is a classic technique because when it would come
on her tongue, she would claim it. She couldn't like
get off, so she would like make people take like
tweezers and peel it off of her tongue for her
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
So they actually sent this material off to be tested
and it came back eighty percent copper, twenty percent zinc.
That's going to be important here in a few minutes,
sure is. In July nineteen ninety, Katie was video taped
having a diamond fall out of her eye you mean
her hand. Yeah. She was also shown producing a gold
chain from her ear and other objects from her mouth.

(01:11:23):
Witnesses have reported seeing several other objects appear from nowhere
produced from her body. However, the biggest skeptic, and I
will say, this is the first time I've seen unsolved
mysteries like bring in like a counterpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
I was happy to see this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
I knew that this was going to make them happy.
Professor Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Whoa Coots. We're going to have to cut that out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Professor Paul Coots. And that's not even it. It's Kurt
see you are tazy, oh dang dyslexia A good night,
all right, Kurts believe that she is a clever fraud store.

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He legitimately calls.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Her out on this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I'm with him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Yeah, He's like, that's fine if other people want to
believe that she's got mysterious powers. But I think she's
clever and she's interesting, but she's just good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
At what she does.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
And he actually like puts it to a test. He
has like his students recreate the foil thing and they test.
They go down to the local craft store and buy
goldleaf foil, which is available anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
And what's the what is that made of?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Exactly eighty percent copper and twenty percent seen whooah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah. And I also read that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
He like had her blood tested because he said that
if you had that much copper and zinc in your body,
it would kill you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
I know, her blood work came back clean. She has
no extra minerals in her blood. I'm sure her salt
like sweat glands, nothing is producing minerals in any way,
shape or form that can be. But I would say
her psychiatrist is written books about this. He believes this
hook line, and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Sinker sure does. It makes me wonder.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Where his credentials came from. But he's like her biggest
like Professor of Truth and then professor Paul Kurtz. Just
he even has a magician come in and like watch
the video of her diamond dropping out of her eyeball
and is like, oh, yeah, that's just a simple sleight
of hand. You can stick like a small object right

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here between your fingers no one can see yet. You
can move your hands around, and once you kind of
just spread those fingers far enough apart, the object falls out.
So the biggest thing about this, and I don't know
why she's never tried to profit off of these abilities.

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I will say she didn't try to go on, she's
never written a book about it, she's never made a
TV appearance. She drops off the face of the earth
after this. Her name is not known. I thought for
sure someone who by now would have found out her identity. No,
we still do not know who this woman is. She's
videotaped or she's interviewed. So I did some more background

(01:14:43):
research on her childhood.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah, it seems.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
She got pulled out of school in like second grade.
She grew up very poor with not knowing how to
read or write.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
That is a little convenient for her claim, and she
can all of a sudden read and speak another language.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
It just seems more like it's a memorized thing. It's
not that hard to everything passage over and over.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Everything we know about her is what she's told. Yes, yeah,
you don't know who she is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, there's no way to verify any of her stories.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
She also said that she has diamonds that come out
of her eye and gold that comes out of her pores.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Yep, and that she sees dead people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Yeah, so you know, call me crazy, but I take
whatever else.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
And I will say the fact that she wasn't willing
to give her a name to me was the biggest
red flag that she was a fraud.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Yeah, because then.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
I've met nobody could verify anything, and I looked. There's
not a single video of her producing a single thing.
There's videos of things falling out of her eyes and
her ears, and she's acting like a crazy person before
it happens. So again, misdirection. When someone is freaking out

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and shaking their body, you are not paying attention to
what they're doing with their hands. But there's not a
single video of her producing this stuff without our hands
or feet or arms being involved. And there's no evidence
of her producing this coming from her pores. She just
looks like she hairsprayed goldief onto her body.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Well, the video, and this is even eighties video of
her in the diamond coming out of her eye. Yeah, listen,
I have zero magical abilities whatsoever, and meaning a slide
of hand that I just don't have those skills. It
is clear as day. She's has her head tilted down,

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takes her hand and is rubbing her eye and you
literally see her spread her middle and index finger apart,
and the diamond falls.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
She's rubbing her eye with the tips of her fingers
like you would normally do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
She has rubbing her.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Eye with like the where your fingers and your hand meet,
like a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Really weird like that's just say. She tilts her head
down so her hair is down and you can't see
a lot and you literally see her spread her fingers
and all of a sudden poof there it is here,
it comes, it just drops down. It is clear as day. Yeah,

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that she had that in her hand before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
And like I said, she's never on Oprah, She's never
on Sally Jesse, Raphael, She's never on you know, the
Good Morning Show with what's his name? Who are they?
Kathy Grifford and Regis.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Nothing, She's like not on any of the thin you
there's no nothing. She drops off the face of the earth.
I think she did this for I don't know something
and then maybe realize when that guy came in and
kind of pushed back a little bit, that she realized
maybe she wasn't going to be able to pull this
scheme off. M that was That's my guess is that

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she was hoping to take it farther maybe after this aired.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
And then so you didn't find any other updates on
her or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
I found a book that her psychiatrist wrote, well's not
the guy that was interviewed, No, it's another it's his
like colleague or something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Yeah, Stephane Broad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Yeah, one random person on Reddit was like Stepan Broad
claimed that that was his grandmother and that she's like
super powerful. But again, that's on Reddit. Could have been
any weirdo saying that in their basement. Yeah, I mean nothing. Yeah,
I mean I did find one Reddit thread that people

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believe it's real and they get mad when people say
that it's not. That was an interesting post to go down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Well here's the thing. I guess, I do think because
they had some witnesses, witnesses on there, and there's a
lady on there and she swears that she saw this
all happen in front of her eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Well, and she tells the story that they were peeling
the stuff off her tongue and she was holding one
of her hands while doing so because it was like painful,
right supposed to She acts like this is painful, and
that when she looked down again there was gold on
her arm. Redirection. No, I understand, And I think magicians

(01:20:05):
are fascinating like that. Justin Williams guy. We've seen him twice. Now,
I don't know how he does that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Well, that's what I'm saying is you have these witnesses
and they swear by it because they said I saw
it right in front of my eyes and this happened.
And I understand that because I have watched magicians and
I have no understanding or ability of how they do

(01:20:32):
what they do. Yeah, we've seen that justin Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Guy's Stephan Bargezi or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Is in Nate Bargezi's dad, Yeah, comedian. Yeah, and his
dad is a magician. And we saw him and we
were sitting in the front row.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Literally you went on stage. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
I interacted with him with a dollar bill or something
or a five dollar bill, yeah you. And so we
watched and the same thing with Justin Williams. I was
I got called up for the printer thing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying is so I have
no idea how they do what they do. No, but
I also know and they will also tell you it's
a trick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
It's a trick.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
They're not going to tell you how they do the trick,
but it is a trick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Here, you just have someone that's just unwilling to tell
you it's a trick. Yeah, and so, but so if
people see it and they say it's not a trick,
this is what happened, and you play it, well, then yeah,
they're going to get on the Reddit form like absolutely
this is true. I saw it. I saw it with
my own eyes. Yeah, I believe it, Like no, it's

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it's just a trick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Yeah yeah, I think she's just a subpart amateur magician.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
But it is crazy to me because I dug into
this quite a bit anything, So I went down at
least an hour plus or longer rabbit hole of this,
even though like this wasn't even mine to dig into.
But I dug in on this doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
You dug in on the doctor. That's that was the
route I didn't take.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
I watched two interviews. This guy did, uh huh, Stephen
a Broad he wrote a book in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Yes, it's for sale on Amazon right now. It doesn't
have great reviews.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Yeah, two thousand and seven. And this guy supposedly he
just he buys it. He says he's done all this
his his thing about the gold paper, He's like, yes,
it is gold paper. He goes, but we had magicians
try to do it. And then he said, the gold

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paper it's too flimsy. It sticks to you, so you
can't put it where you want it to put. It's
just too hard to work with So it is impossible
for her two have done that. It's not a trick
because we've tried. Other magicians can do it. It's too hard
to work with it. Well, I'm like, yeah, but dude,

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if this is your stick, you have mastered. Every magician has.
It's a trick that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
You haven't sold to the magician's academy yet. Like, this
is the thing every magician I know personally, and they've
shared stories and stuff. If you listen to them. That's
the other way that they like make money is that
they learn how to do they master, and then they
sell that trick to other magicians.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Yeah, but a lot of magicians have their stick that
they have mastered and they spent their whole life doing.
And if you then ask another magician to come in
and try to do it, if they've never spent any time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Yeah, they are likely not going to be able to
recreate it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
And this isn't a day magician. And I'm saying, like
to do these things, it takes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Well, it's an art form and it's a respect and
it's yeah, I mean, here's the thing. A normal magician
outside of your normal slide of hand stuff an actual
like complete illusion like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
But this guy is he's still to this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
I'm a planning sinker on this that this is, this
happened in this lady.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Like I said, I am the least skeptical out of
us in this room right now. I love to believe
kinds of crazy, weird things. And instantly I've worked with
gold Leaf before the line like the whole way it is,
I'm like, no, no, no, no, this lady is putting this
on her. It's not hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Yeah, I mean it was it was clear as day.
I was almost it was almost embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
It was almost it was embarrassing to watch the video
because and the way she's reacting fake violence, like fake
violently seizures and stuff is uncomfortable. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Okay, so we both agree on that. We do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Okay, look at.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Us, and we agree on the reincarnated we do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
We're making strides. Look, I'll tell you no, I'll tell
you this. There might be a lot of things that
divide us, but the majority of things bring us together.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
There. I read that on a Snapple one time, on
a snap. Remember on the inside of a snap we
used to have scenes something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I don't really I just thought it just played with
the cap I like the snapping a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
All right, Okay, that's our recap, Season three, episode seven.
All right, ben I, speaking of whether we talked about
these hurricanes, we've experienced flash floods here in Tucs and Arizona.
What sort of extream weather do you hope to like,

(01:26:05):
never like? What is the scariest extreme weather to you?
With Tornado's, Hurricane tsunamis all of this stuff, earthquakes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
You know what, almost all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
I understand them, But what to you is like, do
you think is the most scary for you? And this
could be different for every single person because they all
are extreme.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I would have to say a flash, flood or a hurricane,
those two.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Those two freak you out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Yeah, yeah, because I mean obviously the terrible thing that
happened in Texas something. Yeah, that, I mean just the
thought of that is terrifying, terrifying because you get caught
in that. There's nothing you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Is there any of these that are just kind of
like that doesn't really stress me out?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Tornadoes? I love tornadoes. I think they're fascinating. I do too. Yeah,
I wouldn't even if I saw one touchdown. Yes, obviously,
like that is going to scare anyone because it is
literally an act of God and there's no stopping I.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Mean, it's a natural disaster, right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Yeah, I mean, any of these, there's no stopping it.
There's really nothing. But if I saw one of those,
I would love to watch it from a distance. Yeah,
just because they are so fast. You go out with
the storm chasers, Oh yeah, if that was a real job,
I don't it is, yeah, no, I know, but it
is not what they've made two movies about that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
I don't know. Is there any storm chasers out there
and you want to have the unsolved couple on reach out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
I do. Obviously there are people that chase them, but
it's not like there is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Glenn Pale's not out there with his white.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Wet t shirt backwards hat.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
That's what I was under the impression of that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
You were looking for. Your had no.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Glass the kind of tornado I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
But if that existed, I mean that would be Yeah,
that'd be a fun job.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
I mean, at least with hurricanes, you sometimes knowing you
can get out of the way, you can leave, you
can baten down the hatches. I think, like a flash flood,
I mean, I guess should just stay away from the river,
but you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Don't build a floodplane like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
But you know the one what happened in Texas, Like
that thing grows so fast. There is no way.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
It was sad because if you actually look at like
a map, a lot of because it could have been
because of the way.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
There's a lot that could go into this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
But people don't always take into account the floodplaines when
they build structures, and that is something if you live
in a flash flood area that really should be paid
attention to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
But what's yours? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
I am terrified of earthquakes? Oh really, Well, there's no
way to predict them, like hurricane, hurricanes, tsunami, tornadoes, and
even flash floods. At times. Most of the time we
live in flash flood area and we get warnings to

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stay out of certain areas. All have some sort of prediction.
It's maybe not one hundred percent, but it is very
widely studied and a lot of the times, even sometimes
the hurricanes weeks in advance, you know, and tornadoes. You

(01:29:43):
can build underground shelters, and I'm not saying everyone has
the luxury of doing that. But unless I guess you're
in the middle of an empty field, when an earthquake happens,
there is no warning. What are you supposed to do?
You can't escape it. You can't say, hey, there's an

(01:30:05):
earthquake warning, We're going to go to the higher grounds,
or we're going to go here, or we're going to
go here, or we're going to go to our underground bunker.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
It's going to get you no matter where You're going
to get you, no matter where you go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
And fault lines terrifying me. Like, I remember when we
lived in Portland, there's a fault line off the Oregon
coast somewhere, and we didn't ride the Max very often,
but I remember one time I went down to the
Farmer's Market and you could take the Max directly to it.
And the Max goes under the ground for a little while.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
It rides between Portland and Hillsbro. There's in the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
To the Zoo, through the zoo, under the zoo, there's
a stop at.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
The zoo, and then you keep going through the tunnel. Yeah,
it's cool, it's a way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
And I had this intrusive thought hit me as we
are going down in this tunnel. What if that fault
line that is like two hundred years past the time
it's supposed to have.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Like it's always past.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
I know, what if that went off right now?

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
And I like, I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
Breathe because from my understanding, that fault line, like Oregon,
half of organ is supposed to just basically fall into
the ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
It's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Portland is dead upon arrival DA California, like san They
just terrify me because they are crazy. And then the
other thing thinks to Dante's peak is volcanoes, which is
I guess kind of another natural disaster. And dude, Yellowstone

(01:31:45):
is nuts, so bananas, Yellowstone is sitting on like the
biggest earthquake in the world. And if that thing goes off, volcano, sorry,
And if that thing is to erupt and it's also
past due, the cloud of ash that comes out is
supposed to like keep the world dark for like two
something years.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
It could be twenty years, it could be two days.
I don't know. But it terrifies me. So volcanoes and earthquakes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Uh no, thank you you staying away.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
That's actually the one weird time that living in Arizona
is actually the benefit because I looked at the map,
at the earthquake maps and the Yellowstone volcano map. We're
good down here, We're sife. Yeah, I mean, here's the
problem is if the sun gets blocked out for too long,
it kills all the plants and then animals search day off.
So food sources might be a little we'll cross that

(01:32:40):
bridge and we get to it. But yeah, but yeah,
hurricanes her winds are fascinating to me. I think they're
so cool. Yeah, and then Tsunamis are.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Scary, but they're all terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
They're all terrifying, and I've watched too many End of
World movies that involve one of those things is going crazy.
So all right, everybody, that is our episode. Check us
out again next Tuesday, when Ben and I will be
back here once again to share with you one of
our favorite TV shows.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Your favorite TV show now I on sold Mysteries.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Bye,

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