September 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Today, we dive into the world of rapid growth with Dr. Joseph Droll Shagen, also known as Dr. J. He brings over 28 years of experience in corporate America and has a knack for turning struggling businesses into profitable ventures. Our conversation highlights the importance of mindset, particularly the role of the subconscious in shaping our perceptions and actions. Dr. J shares insights from his new book, which guides readers through his unique SMT method—Subconscious Mindset Training—designed to help individuals identify and shift their internal programming for better results. Join us as we explore how to break free from the patterns that hold us back and embrace a life of purpose and success.
Dr. Joseph Drolshagen, known as Dr. J, joins us in this enlightening episode where we dive deep into the concepts of rapid growth and success. With over 28 years of experience in corporate America and a background in psychology, Dr. J shares powerful insights on how individuals can unlock their potential and achieve remarkable transformations in their personal and professional lives. He emphasizes the importance of becoming teachable and recognizing when traditional methods aren't yielding results. The conversation explores the common pitfalls of doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different outcomes, a definition of insanity that many entrepreneurs face.
Dr. J's approach revolves around understanding and reprogramming our subconscious minds. He introduces the SMT method, which stands for Subconscious Mindset Training. This method focuses on identifying and shifting the subconscious programming that often holds us back from achieving our goals. He stresses that success is not just about following a one-size-fits-all strategy but finding one's unique path. Throughout the episode, he shares personal anecdotes and lessons learned from his journey, highlighting that even the most successful individuals have faced obstacles and moments of self-doubt.
Listeners will be encouraged to reflect on their experiences, shift their perceptions, and embrace their uniqueness as they work toward their goals. Dr. J's insights into the power of perception and the importance of slowing down to notice opportunities around us are not just motivational; they are actionable takeaways that can lead to profound changes. Whether you're a business leader or simply someone seeking personal growth, this episode is packed with valuable nuggets to help you steer your life toward unstoppable success.
Takeaways:
- Rapid growth often starts from a place of frustration and feeling stuck in life.
- Shifting your perception is crucial for success; it allows us to see opportunities.
- The subconscious mind plays a key role in shaping our actions and beliefs in life.
- Learning to embrace discomfort can lead to significant personal and professional growth.
- Success is not a linear journey; it involves zigzagging through life's challenges and changes.
- Identifying and reprogramming negative beliefs is essential for unlocking your true potential.
Links referenced in this episode:
- coachwithjoey.com
- https://www.josephadrolshagen.com
- Reprogramming Your Subconscious Mind: The SMT Method for Rapid Growth https://amzn.to/4nut5BR
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Fox
- NBC
- CBS
- USA
- New York City Journal Disruptors
- Enterprise World
- Pfizer
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Well, hello everybody andwelcome to another amazing episode
of Unstoppable Success. I amyour host Jaclyn Strominger. And
as you know, on this podcastwe hear from amazing people in the
world who have had amazingsuccess and are great leaders and
have amazing ways that you canlearn and have nuggets so that you
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can go from unstoppablesuccess to truly amazing growth and
even more success and keepthat momentum going. So let me introduce
you to our guest today. It isDr. Joseph Drolshagen. And I keep
wanting to say it the Germanway because I pronounce it so many
times. So but let me tell youa little bit about and as I'm going
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to call him Dr. J. He has beenfeatured obviously on all the great
places like Fox, NBC, CBS andusa, along with being named one of
the top business coaches inAmerica for, for five consecutive.
I can't speak today. Fiveconsecutive years in the New York
City Journal Disruptorsmagazine and as of February 2025
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in enterprise world. Dr. J isthe Rapid Growth Specialist. He has
over 28 years in corporateAmerica from VP of Sales up to, and
his doctorate in psychologywith extensive studies and knowledge
of mindset and, and he hasassisted multiple organizations experiencing
bankruptcy back to intoprofitability along with creating
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innovative systems that bringabout massive results both personally
and professionally. And rightnow he also is going to share his
wisdom and he has a great newbook out which he will talk about
as well. So anyway, Dr. J,welcome to the show.
Oh, it's great to be here withyou. I'm glad that you have to do
all that bio stuff and I don't.
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Know.
You did great. Yeah, I'mreally excited to be here.
With you, Jacqueline, youknow, so first of all, I, I love
your energy which is soimportant for people to have. And
what I would love for you toshare is you, you know, you are talking
about rapid growth and we'retalking about success. So how, how
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do people have rapid growth?
Yeah, that's as far as theenergy. I don't rarely meet people
that top my energy. But you,you've got that, you've got that
going for you. Yeah, rapidgrowth is usually something with
inside of us that stirs it abottoming and upset struggle for
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so too long and things likethat. And we just can't stand living
that way anymore. And that's,I know how it happened for me as
well. And once, once. So whatI say is we become teachable at that
point because up until thenwe're laying out our pathways, our
strategies, our to do listsand you know, if it's not working.
We put more hours, moreeffort, more time into it and such,
but then we get to that placewhere it's like, man, it's just not
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working. And, and it's usuallynot long before the effort. I give
up, I quit and I do somethingelse. Yes, yes. To tab out. But yeah,
that's, but yeah, it's usuallynot much before that. And then when
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we, and what happens in thatprocess is so we're doing everything
we can think to do. We're,we're going about the way we think
we're supposed to, right. And,and so we're investing in things
that are telling us do A, Band C to get D. And we do it, we
do it more, we do it more andwe do it more, but we're not seeing
the changes in the results.And so we just get to that point
of frustration, fed up and allthat stuff. And the moment we go,
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I don't know how to do this,we literally unlock a vault to be
shown the pathway of how to do it.
So you just described thedefinition of insanity, correct?
It is, right? Doing the samething over and over and over again,
thinking that you're going totry to get the same results and you
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keep doing more different results.
Yes.
You're not gonna, you thinkI'm gonna get different, I'm gonna
get different results and youdon't. And you hit that point.
Yeah, yeah. People withaddiction, I mean, it's so, so widespread.
You know, people withaddiction go through the same thing,
you know, where they keepusing and using and there's that,
that almost like with our,with our trying to be successful
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in business or entrepreneurs,you know, and, and, and all in. A
lot of entrepreneurs don'teven live as entrepreneurs. They
try to figure out thesystematic way of doing it. That's
not an entrepreneur. Anentrepreneur goes with the flows
and they go with the stream,you know, and the creativity and
all there. When you startimplementing too many systems into
it, you take that away from itand that's no longer what, that's
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what I call old corporate,because that's what corporate America
was like, you know, and sowhen we're going through this, when
we just get it, but when weget into that flow, all of a sudden,
you know, we all talk aboutcoincidences, right? Every, you know,
we overhear something that weneed to hear. I Woke up at 5 o' clock
this morning with a thought ofon my mind and I literally sprung
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out of bed, came in here,didn't even make my Coffee or use
the, you know, bathroom oranything. Came in, fired up my computer
and everything. I'm sittingthere for about a minute going, okay,
I gotta slow down a littlebit, go get some coffee on, you know,
and. But so much stuff flowslike that. And so we'll overhear
something or somebody will sayor read something or, or see something,
whatever it is. And we hearthis thing and it answers exactly
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what we want. But when we'rein that mode of pushing, pushing,
pushing, trying to make ithappen, we don't even notice those
things are going on all aroundus. And what I do, what I've experienced,
what my clients experience,what tied throughout the SMT method
is that we can utilize thoseso called coincidences, which I don't
really call them coincidences.We can utilize those as the system
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to know they will show up, toknow they will guide our pathway.
And so we can focus much moreon what it is I want to achieve and
expanding that. You know, I'mreally big into asking for the impossible.
You know, so many people aregoing through this process of life
and they're trying to getthere, and it's not their own fault,
but they're trying to getthere and they end up living on minuscule
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scraps of what's available tothem. And they, honestly, when I
talk to people, they don'tknow why. And so when you can help
somebody open that up andunderstand that now all of a sudden
we can, they can startshifting and all of a sudden they'll
start seeing things happening.And as things happen and we start
growing in our mind and thepossibilities and, and all of that,
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you know, when you see itexpand and, and ultimately what I
do is I help people take theconscious mind, which is what we're
focused on. The words we use,thoughts, we entertain the words,
the way we talk aboutourselves, you know, who we hang
out with, watch all thatstuff. But the knowing of what we
want is in our conscious mind.And one of my mentors, late Bob Proctor,
taught me this. And then wehave the subconscious mind, and all
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the subconscious mind does isabsorbs. But it's really important
to understand there's this,what I call a motherboard in our
subconscious that hosts all ofour programming, our patterns, our
paradigms, our experiences,even experiences. Maybe we didn't
have Jacqueline, but somebodytold us about, and it gets embedded
into that network. Well, thewhy that's important is because that
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subconscious is what triggersbrainwaves to the actions we take
or don't take. So you have theknowing of what you want, and you
can have all kinds of clarityon that. But if your programming
is working against you, andthis is exactly how I went into adulthood,
experiencing it doesn'ttrigger the brain waves to the actions
that will help align thosetwo. So what we do is we identify
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what those are, shift thosethings, and all of a sudden we start
noticing we're more inalignment with what we want and the
actions we're taking. And allof a sudden we start noticing the
huge changes on our exterior.
You know, there's. As you'retalking, like, you know, I. I love
what you're talking aboutbecause the mind is so flipping powerful,
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right? And we forget that we,you know, it's, you know, we all
have all these lenses that wehave developed from our experiences
in life, and we have tosometimes learn to shift the color
of the lens and see what we'reseeing so that we could see things
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differently. And it is trulyamazing that when you can go from
that point of. Of havingeverything turned off because you're
so focused, because you're soalmost like busy with whatever the
busyness is, and you haven'tslowed down, but when you can slow
down and you can sort of like,almost like smell the roses, it's
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amazing what comes to you. Asyou were saying, it's like you can
start hearing those things.The creativity comes back, you know,
when you can take these lovelyinstruments and put them away, you
know, and you just can sitthere and be.
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.You know, I'm fortunate. I get to
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live in the. In the mountains,South Carolina, all the way to the
west side of the state. And soI spend a lot of time just walking
in nature, sitting in nature,trout fishing on beautiful trout
streams, or not even fishing,just sitting there and stuff. And
the more time I do that, themore lines. And almost every business
owner I work with, I have toget them to throttle back a little
bit from what they're doing toget into alignment with this stuff,
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to even. Even just to noticewhat pro. You know, what they're
being triggered from theirsubconscious mind so they can be
aware of it. So in. In doingthat. And you said something absolutely
beautiful when you talkedabout that. The color of the lens.
You know, I call thatperceptions. And if we want to change
our results in what we'reexperiencing in life, we have to
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shift our perceptions. Theonly way I know to do it, let alone
quickly and long term, is wehave to identify and shift the programming
that's leading to thoseperceptions, that's leading to our
Experience.
Yep. Okay, so I want to shareabout, share something. But this
is when I keep thinking aboutlenses and changing our perception.
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It's so important. So themovie. Oh my God. Treasure. Whatever.
Indiana Jones.
No. Nicholas Cage.
Oh, oh, I remember the movie.Not the name.
Oh my God, I love the movie.And I cannot think of it anyway,
but he's like at, you know,he's in Philadelphia and they're,
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they get Ben Franklin'sglasses and they're looking at the
declaration of Independenceand it's like, oh. And they start
to shift the lenses and theysee the different patterns and that's
what like I love that, thatyou can people see things through
different lenses and changethat perspective. Because it does.
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All of a sudden the wholeworld, you know, opens up.
Yes. Changes. It does,absolutely. It shifts, you know,
an example of that. And ourprogramming is unique to the individual.
So that's why I'm not a bigadvocate of one size fit. All programs
do A, B and C and get to Dbecause we're all unique individuals.
I have four siblings. Wheneverwe've gotten together or get together
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and talk about like thecamping trips and the different vacations
we've been on together as afamily, there's five different stories
of that. Because we all haveour own unique programming which
leads to our own unique, youknow, the way we see it and stuff.
Perceptions of how we see it.
It is so true. It is so true.Is so. That is so true. Because it's,
it's also like, you know, youcould say like two, two people grow
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up in the same household. Howcan they be so different? It's, it's
every, you know, you're in thesame household, but you're experiencing.
Think things differently.
You're see things becausewe're processing them differently.
Because we're unique.
Yeah.
So that's why like I've reallybeen a huge advocate as I started
learning and understanding.The whole thing about the subconscious
and things like that is thatwhatever I do, I want it to be because
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I used to take those one sizefit out programs like the ABC to
get to D and I'd walk awaygoing, man, there must be something
the matter with me. Because Ididn't get near what they talk about
people getting out of it. Wellthen once I started understanding,
I needed something that workedfor me and my uniqueness. I don't,
I had to quit caring whateverybody else does and look at me
and what do I need. And as Istart doing that, so I start forming
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and that's what I help clientsdo today is let's identify. There
is no one pathway that worksfor everybody. It's impossible for
that to happen. So let's findyour unique pathway that just fricking
rockets you into the resultsyou want to get and beyond. A lot
of times.
That's awesome. So what is thesmart T Because method.
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It was hard to finish that,wasn't it?
Before we. Before Dr. J and Iwere talking before show and I. I
added a letter in therebecause, you know, if you do any,
you know, email programmingstuff, there's another letter in
some of that stuff. So Ithought I was stopping.
Probably really, really wrongof me to just let you hang with that
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too, wasn't it? But it wasfun, Jack. I had a good time there.
Thanks for the trickles. SoSMT method stands for subconscious
mindset training. And it's allabout identifying the programming
that's going on under thesurface within that subconscious
motherboard. And once weidentify it, now with the SMT method,
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we have tools to quickly shiftthat which then quickly change perceptions
and then open up avenues toachieve greater results for the same
amount of efforts or less.
Oh, that. Okay, so I likethat. So for same amount of efforts
or less, people like that. Soyour new book, reprogramming your
subconscious mind. The smtp.Smt. I just said it. The SMT method.
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Sorry, SMT method. This iswhat happens the. You know, for rapid
growth. So will the. If I. Wegrab the book and people get the
book, will they be able towalk themselves through the method
so that they can. They cansort of reprogram their subconscious
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themselves?
So. So that I designed andwrote the book. It explains the method,
but it's. It's literally whatI take my clients through.
Okay.
Is the process. My hopes inthe book is that it opens up blinders
for a lot of people just torealize there's something going on.
They're not aware. So they canstart noticing that and start bringing
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about changes. And one of thethings that was important for me
to do in this book is I have.It's not included in the book, but
I have a link that's at theend of every. Almost every chapter
that you can go to. Andthere's exercises to practice so
you can start seeing changehappening in those areas. You can
start noticing it. You canstart, you know, walking through
some tools as far as shiftingthose perceptions and start noticing
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a change.
I like that. So I like thefact that you have that the book
comes with exercises becausethat, I think is one of the things
that happens with a lot ofbooks that you will read something
and they'll be, you know,it'll say, okay, now get out a piece
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of paper or there you need todo this. But people don't necessarily
always do it because they, youknow, but being able to give them
the actual exercise to do it.
Yeah.
Is really great.
Yeah. Yeah. I actually thoughtabout writing in the book and like
the beginning of chapterthree, like before you read this,
please show me your works inchapter two.
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Accountability. Right. It's.It's that accountability part, right?
Yeah. Prove it.
But yeah, it is. And it's away of doing it and it's not really
exhaustive and, but it reallypointed to help focus in this. Find
that item and then focus onthe item. What's going on in your
thinking about that item andthat right away. And then I help
them to see, to point out how,how is it working for you or against
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you? The ones that are workingagainst you is programming you don't
need anymore.
Right. So you. And that'strue. Like once you've gotten some,
when you've moved to oneplace, you can keep moving on, but
you don't have to go back.
Yes.
You know.
Yes.
So. So you have had amazingsuccess. You know, you started in
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sales, you were. So how didyou, how did you become the success
and drive your growth?
It's, this is the whole thingwith anybody's pathway. It's not
a, it's not really a logicalprocess. Like, honestly, Jacqueline,
I, I shouldn't be here talkingwith you today. I shouldn't be doing
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the things I've done. Ishouldn't have been on magazines,
I shouldn't have wrote a book.I shouldn't impact people's lives.
I shouldn't have. Because whenI grew up in a very low income family
in Detroit, Michigan, watchingstruggle in everything, I didn't,
I was told growing up numeroustimes from numerous people, there's.
People meant to work theirhead and people meant to work with
their hands and you're goingto work with your hands. So I never
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really applied myself inschool. As soon as I graduated high
school, I went to a factoryand got a job cleaning out old mucky
oil from, from machines andthings like that and stuff, you know,
and I thought that was my lotin life and I was just going to do
that. And when I was 22 yearsold, I had a gentleman approach me.
He was kind of a mentor I sawmuch, much higher than I would ever
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go and stuff. But he wasgetting ready to retire. And he owned
a multimillion dollarconstruction company and he wanted
me to take over the business.He wasn't going to sell it to me
so I didn't have to come upwith a loan and stuff like that.
He knew me well in mysituation, so I was going to take
it over and over a seven yearperiod, share residual, you know,
revenues as they come in withthem for seven years. And that was
the most exciting day in mylife. Like I felt like somebody believed
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in me beyond what I everthought possible. Three days later
I told him I can't do that.And I probably should have explained
it because he could help mesee a different. But the reason I
said that is because I felt somuch guilt going through my whole
being that I didn't work hardenough to earn that. So I don't deserve
it. And that's at the pointwhen I said that and a couple other
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things happening is when Isaid, man, there's something really
wrong with me and I don't knowwhat it is, but I so badly want to
find it out. And it's been afour decade journey into leading
to all this stuff.
So did you, so what happenedafter that? Did you decide, I'm going
to go to school, I'm going to.
No, no, I was lost, completelylost. And then I started out getting
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counseling, trying to figureout what it was and they didn't hit
on that core of things likethat and stuff. And, and I did that
for a few years and, and thenfrom there I, I ended up meeting
a guy who was a very wealthyperson and he grew up around where
I did, you know, same kind ofneighborhood and stuff and, and similar
to how I did. And he was amulti millionaire in the pharmaceutical
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industry. A very high level, Iwon't say his name, a very high level
person in Pfizer and placeslike that and stuff. And we just
got to know each other andhe's not somebody I would have picked
to hung around with because Ithought they were so high above me
and such. But we hung out andstuff and over a matter of about
five months or six months, hesaw again somebody, he saw something
in me and so he would juststart talking about, man, you could
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have any job or if you had,you know, a job, you know, and, and
he wanted me to go in salesand it's the last thing I ever wanted
to do was go into salesbecause I had that view of the, you
know, reception of a used carsalesman and something. So, so anyway,
so he ended up Talking me intointerviewing and stuff like that.
And what hooked me is when hegot me to say if I ever got into
White collar America, I wouldlove to have a company car and a
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laptop computer. My firstcorporate job had a company car and
a laptop computer. And thenthat got me started. Then I went
into sales and I neverexpected to do, even struggled in
that for a long time. And thenI started diving deeper and deeper
and deeper. And at some pointI came across the subconscious mind
and all the studies I wasdoing, you know we talk about with
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books, I used to read a bookall the way through and then I would
go back and create experimentsto do with that book. But all of
it was trying to figure outwhy what was the matter with me,
you know. So that addedanother level of complexity to it.
So then as I started doingsales and I went from barely getting
by traveling 3,000 to 5,000miles a week building the territories
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to understanding this, toidentifying it and then going out
find somebody who could help,which was very difficult to find
somebody who had theunderstanding of, I mean he had to
Neville Goddard and you know,Bob Proctor is, and things like that
stuff, but there wasn't manyof them. And so then as I started
learning that within a year Iwent from barely getting by to landing
18, 22, $25 million year overyear contracts for companies and
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doubling company sizes andthings like that with what I was
doing. So that moved me, thatended up elevating me up into a vice,
into director, you know, salesmanager and vice vice president positions
and stuff. And then later on Iwould help organizations in bankruptcy
get back to profitability. Andthat was a 28 year period that that
happened. And I've always hadthis desire in.
My heart to help out becauseyou don't really look like you're
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that old.
Thank you. I started when Iwas 2.
That's what I thought. Okay.Yeah. Thought you were lying.
Yeah, thank you for sayingthat. So, but, but then I then, so
as I, as I did that and stuffand then in the corporate job, the
last organization that was inbankruptcy and I was part of the
team to bring backprofitability and such, my dad had
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passed away of cancer. Andthen A year later, 56 years of marriage,
my mom passed away. She justnatural causes. She just didn't want
to be alive without him. And Ifound myself an orphan with this
big desire on my heart to helppeople. And I knew I was in that
way, but it wasn't, it wasn't,it didn't match the size of, you
know, what I felt, what mypurpose was. And, and I just said,
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you know, I, I don't knowexactly how I've already. Now at
that point, I had twocertifications into what I do today,
and I was going through theeducation stuff and things like that.
And I just, I said, when weget new owners in this organization,
I'm done. And so we got newowners. A week later, I resigned,
moved down here to SouthCarolina and I started going out,
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giving out five business cardsa day with introducing myself to
people. That's how I startedthis build.
That's awesome.
I shouldn't be here, but lookat statistics.
But you should be therebecause the way. And you say you
shouldn't. That's in yourbrain. You're so. You should be.
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Because, you know, you knowwhat I.
Said a few minutes ago,Jacqueline, that doesn't make logical
sense, right? That's theshouldn't be here part. Because logically,
if you look at only logic, itdoesn't make sense. And so we have
to step outside of logic toachieve what we really want to achieve,
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what we truly desire in ourheart to achieve and the level we
desire to achieve it. It's notgoing to come from logic. It's not
going to come from strategyalone. It's not going to come from
to do lists. It's not going tocome from following what Pete down
the street did or anybodyelse. It's not going to be a logical
pathway.
You know, the word logic iskind of an interesting word too,
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right? Because when I hear,when I hear it, like you think it,
it's, it's true. It's like itdoesn't take a lot. It's not a logical
pathway to. Because a pathwayis never a straight up. It doesn't
just go. We don't always, youknow, you don't, you still don't
start here and go from point Ato point B as an upline. It is, you're
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zigging and zagging and it'sup. And it's the intermoving of,
of your journey that happensto take you, you know, up and down
mountains, up and down stairs,zigging and zagging. And I was listening
to a book this morning, youknow, it's the book, you know, impossible.
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And one of the things that theauthor was saying was also is that,
you know, successful people,you know, have not, don't have a
linear and logical journey.And it is that they have to explore
and kind of come to where theyare. They find what they truly love.
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And, and are passionate aboutwhere they can then go and take the
direction. But it's never. Butyou don't think about it like, as
a. It. It's true. It's not,it's not the path where we think,
oh, he's going to go frompoint A to point B. Logical. He.
He became a doctor, so he'sgoing to obviously practice medicine
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and see patients logicallythinking, but maybe they don't.
You know, if you look at thefact of going like, and this is one
of the things I work with myclients on, and anybody listening
to this, this is, this, like,has had a huge, profound impact in
my life. And I know people Iwork with is, is, you know, when
we look at something and, andwe go, that's, oh, that's good, man.
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And I excited that happened.Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. God, I
can't believe that happened.If I live by the judgment of that
within myself, I wouldn't behere. Because that judgment, when
I say that's bad, everythingstops. It can't go any further. But
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when I look at giving up thatconstruction company and years later,
I looked at that constructioncompany and I went, man, that was
a good thing because thathelped build the desire and the passion
in my gut to break whateverthat was to fix that thing.
Right?
And so, so what I tell peopleis, you don't. This, you, you don't
know where this is going toend. But I believe, based on my life
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and my walk in this world iseverything ends up leading to something
bigger and better for me, evenif it's just a life lesson. And that's
with relationships, finances,you know, what we do business wise,
like across the board, youknow, when we put that judgment on
there. I wrote another bookcalled Life's Lessons, and in there
I state very clearly, beforeit was popular is when I took the
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judgment out of what washappening in my life. Like, it's
not good or bad, right? Wrong,fair, unfair or anything else. And
if I take on a belief thatlife happens, happens for me and
not to me, then I could startseeing what the lessons were in that.
But as long as I had judgment,I could never get through that. Because
if something happened bad tome, that means I'm a victim of something.
And if I'm a victim, I gotnowhere to go.
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Right? Yeah. You know, it's.And what you just said is as is.
And I think this is listeners,I think this is something that is
really, really important foryou to have unstoppable success.
You have to make your lifehappen. Life doesn't happen to you.
And it's really important tobe able to know that distinction.
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You don't. You want to. Youdon't want to just exist, but you
want to live with purpose andyou want to understand that things,
you know, happen. Things arenot happening. You can make your
life happen. They don't happento you. I mean, if something happens
that you don't, like, find thegood in it, find the lesson, find
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the learning. It's. And I'llshare this story, which is, you know,
one of the things that made ahuge change in my life was I was
taking my kids to school onemorning and. And I was on the east
coast and I'm driving and I.It was amazing that I got to where
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I was going because it was thecar thing, you know, it was not a
self driving car, but italmost was that day because I was
like, something is not right.Something is missing. Like, I literally
said to myself, jacqueline,you have started a point in your
life where you are justexisting. You're not living. You're
not living with purpose. And Iremember coming home that day. It
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was major, huge shift in mylife. I remember coming home that
day and writing out, like,rewriting my purpose and rewriting
out my mission and what do Iwant? And not just, not just the
need, but what do I want in mylife? And telling my husband, I'm
like, we're going to move. Andhe's like, what? I go, I'm done with
this. Like, I'm done. Like,we're going to move and we're not
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going to stay where we arebecause this is not. We are. We are
existing and life about existing.
Yeah, you just motivated me.
Right, right. Well, and, andwhich, yeah, I'm glad I motivated
you, but the point is, like,what you're doing too, like Dr. J,
what you're doing is soimportant to help people because
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so many of us do go throughlife existing, and we need to live
knowing that even whatever,you know, if you've had baggage.
Baggage, yeah, you'll see somelenses through there. But, you know,
guys, go get the book andrewrite. Rewrite the lenses that
you're seeing and reprogramyour mind because you have to be
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able to say, you know, drawthe line in the sand, say, uncle,
whatever, do the taps, youknow, and say, today's the day. Yes,
we're making a shift. I'mgoing to live with purpose. And you
know that you're going to wakeup every single day living with purpose.
And being unstoppable and have it.
You don't have to have. Youdon't have to have the full roadmap
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or plan or action plan or allthat to do that. You just got to
make a choice and those thingswill start showing up for you. And
that's how I help companies,organizations, rapidly scale. I don't
have every answer for them. Asfar as you're going to do a B, and
then you're going to do thisand then you're going to do that,
and you're going to do this,this long and that that long. I don't.
But what we do is we open upthat possibility of that. And as
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we do, all of a sudden thingsstart showing up and things start
flowing and everything else. Ilove that story you shared because
that's that unconscious. Thatday. You. We live unconsciously,
and as we live unconsciously,that pattern that programming in
our subconscious displays overand over and over, almost like on
autopilot, and we're justfollowing it. I had a guy one time
that said to me, I don't haveany patterns. I don't have those
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things. And I go, really?Okay, here's what I want you to do
tomorrow when you. And I justthought, top of my head. When you
shower tomorrow, I want you tolather 12 times and be done and then
rinse. He called me back thenext day and call me an mf, but he
used the real words. And hegoes, you know, I did it 12 times,
and I stopped and he said, Icouldn't do it. I had to go back
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and finish my pattern. And soeven in things that small, it helps
us to identify. We havepatterns. And then when I could see
one of them, then I becomemore attuned to, well, what else
am I saying? What else am Idoing? What other things am I doing
without even fully realizing,like driving, realizing. And I'm
doing it fully conscious ofit. And we can start noticing those
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things, right?
You know, it's so true thatyou just said it, because I'm thinking
when you're talking about the,the washing of the hair, you know,
so many times people like, youknow, you know, you, you subconsciously
do a pattern in the showerbecause you've been doing it for
so long, right? It's likebrushing our teeth. Same thing, right?
You, you do it. You, you justdo it. And, and it's the days that
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something goes maybe a littleawry, where you're like, you know,
you don't have the same amountof time or something. Happens or
as, and as you said, there'sa, there's an instance that somebody
experiences something. Right.Like, and embrace it. And you're
like, oh. And then maybe youmight even feel weird. You're like,
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I didn't get to do the wholething. And I. You don't feel right.
You feel like a little funnybecause something shifted in the.
Yes. If you really track that,Jacqueline, if you track that throughout
that day, there's other thingsthat will follow that once we open
that door. Depending on howunconsciously somebody's living,
they may not even notice thatstuff. But there'll be other things
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like that where it's like,okay, you know, we'll start noticing
changes in those patterns. Andthe way it shows up is discomfort.
It feels uneasy. It feelslike, well, that's not right. But
that's exactly how to get tothat other side.
Right.
So like I told you, as far aslike throttling back business owners,
when I work on them and theyhave such a hard time if people are
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going, I don't even know ifyou're the right guy for me. I go,
just try it. If I'm not, thenyou can leave and you know, whatever
and stuff like that. Buteverybody who does it in a very short
period of time sees thebenefit of doing that.
Yeah. You know, and it's, andit's, it's fascinating. And I think
that, I think more listeners,you take the steps to get outside
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what you do on a day to dayand get, and take what you do unconsciously
and break the habit and breakthe pattern so that you can start
being open to new thingscoming in and flowing. So I, I, you
know, I think it's soimportant. Okay, so Dr. J, tell everybody
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how they can connect with you.Get more of all the greatness.
Anybody can go to coach withJoey.com, set up a 50 minute call.
There's something that wetalked about here, you know, and
I tell people whether, whetherit's something that you're like,
okay, well how would I applyit here? This or that, that's what
the phone calls for. It's notsales pitch. I don't talk about my
programming or anything. I do,I might reference the book because
it's new, I'm really, reallyexcited about it stuff. But it's
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not a sales pitch or anything.And it's really just to serve people
so people can go tocoachwithjoey.com and schedule a
time with me.
Okay, so we're going to put inthe show notes, coach with Joey.com.
yes, we will also have a linkto your book so people can grab the
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book. Please, please, please,please listeners, grab the book.
I'm going to go grab the bookbecause I haven't read it yet and
I wish I had. But I will readthat book and I will do the exercises.
Anybody want to do them withme just let me know. But please also
do me a favor. Connect withDr. J on socials, go to his website,
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get that appointment with himso you can have that deeper connection.
And listeners, do me one otherfavor. Please hit subscribe and share
this episode because I willguarantee you when you share this
episode you are going to helpmore people than you know. So I really
appreciate it. Thank you forlistening. I'm Jacqueline Schomager,
the host of UnstoppableSuccess and thank you Dr. J for being
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a great, amazing guest. Thank you.
Absolutely.
Well, hello everybody andwelcome to another amazing episode
of Unstoppable Success. I amyour host Jaclyn Strominger. And
as you know, on this podcastwe hear from amazing people in the
world who have had amazingsuccess and are great leaders and
have amazing ways that you canlearn and have nuggets so that you
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can go from unstoppablesuccess to truly amazing growth and
even more success and keepthat momentum going. So let me introduce
you to our guest today. It isDr. Joseph Drolshagen. And I keep
wanting to say it the Germanway because I pronounce it so many
times. So but let me tell youa little bit about and as I'm going
(01:25):
to call him Dr. J. He has beenfeatured obviously on all the great
places like Fox, NBC, CBS andusa, along with being named one of
the top business coaches inAmerica for, for five consecutive.
I can't speak today. Fiveconsecutive years in the New York
City Journal Disruptorsmagazine and as of February 2025
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in enterprise world. Dr. J isthe Rapid Growth Specialist. He has
over 28 years in corporateAmerica from VP of Sales up to, and
his doctorate in psychologywith extensive studies and knowledge
of mindset and, and he hasassisted multiple organizations experiencing
bankruptcy back to intoprofitability along with creating
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innovative systems that bringabout massive results both personally
and professionally. And rightnow he also is going to share his
wisdom and he has a great newbook out which he will talk about
as well. So anyway, Dr. J,welcome to the show.
Oh, it's great to be here withyou. I'm glad that you have to do
all that bio stuff and I don't.
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Know.
You did great. Yeah, I'mreally excited to be here.
With you, Jacqueline, youknow, so first of all, I, I love
your energy which is soimportant for people to have. And
what I would love for you toshare is you, you know, you are talking
about rapid growth and we'retalking about success. So how, how
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do people have rapid growth?
Yeah, that's as far as theenergy. I don't rarely meet people
that top my energy. But you,you've got that, you've got that
going for you. Yeah, rapidgrowth is usually something with
inside of us that stirs it abottoming and upset struggle for
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so too long and things likethat. And we just can't stand living
that way anymore. And that's,I know how it happened for me as
well. And once, once. So whatI say is we become teachable at that
point because up until thenwe're laying out our pathways, our
strategies, our to do listsand you know, if it's not working.
We put more hours, moreeffort, more time into it and such,
but then we get to that placewhere it's like, man, it's just not
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working. And, and it's usuallynot long before the effort. I give
up, I quit and I do somethingelse. Yes, yes. To tab out. But yeah,
that's, but yeah, it's usuallynot much before that. And then when
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we, and what happens in thatprocess is so we're doing everything
we can think to do. We're,we're going about the way we think
we're supposed to, right. And,and so we're investing in things
that are telling us do A, Band C to get D. And we do it, we
do it more, we do it more andwe do it more, but we're not seeing
the changes in the results.And so we just get to that point
of frustration, fed up and allthat stuff. And the moment we go,
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I don't know how to do this,we literally unlock a vault to be
shown the pathway of how to do it.
So you just described thedefinition of insanity, correct?
It is, right? Doing the samething over and over and over again,
thinking that you're going totry to get the same results and you
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keep doing more different results.
Yes.
You're not gonna, you thinkI'm gonna get different, I'm gonna
get different results and youdon't. And you hit that point.
Yeah, yeah. People withaddiction, I mean, it's so, so widespread.
You know, people withaddiction go through the same thing,
you know, where they keepusing and using and there's that,
that almost like with our,with our trying to be successful
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in business or entrepreneurs,you know, and, and, and all in. A
lot of entrepreneurs don'teven live as entrepreneurs. They
try to figure out thesystematic way of doing it. That's
not an entrepreneur. Anentrepreneur goes with the flows
and they go with the stream,you know, and the creativity and
all there. When you startimplementing too many systems into
it, you take that away from itand that's no longer what, that's
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what I call old corporate,because that's what corporate America
was like, you know, and sowhen we're going through this, when
we just get it, but when weget into that flow, all of a sudden,
you know, we all talk aboutcoincidences, right? Every, you know,
we overhear something that weneed to hear. I Woke up at 5 o' clock
this morning with a thought ofon my mind and I literally sprung
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out of bed, came in here,didn't even make my Coffee or use
the, you know, bathroom oranything. Came in, fired up my computer
and everything. I'm sittingthere for about a minute going, okay,
I gotta slow down a littlebit, go get some coffee on, you know,
and. But so much stuff flowslike that. And so we'll overhear
something or somebody will sayor read something or, or see something,
whatever it is. And we hearthis thing and it answers exactly
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what we want. But when we'rein that mode of pushing, pushing,
pushing, trying to make ithappen, we don't even notice those
things are going on all aroundus. And what I do, what I've experienced,
what my clients experience,what tied throughout the SMT method
is that we can utilize thoseso called coincidences, which I don't
really call them coincidences.We can utilize those as the system
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to know they will show up, toknow they will guide our pathway.
And so we can focus much moreon what it is I want to achieve and
expanding that. You know, I'mreally big into asking for the impossible.
You know, so many people aregoing through this process of life
and they're trying to getthere, and it's not their own fault,
but they're trying to getthere and they end up living on minuscule
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scraps of what's available tothem. And they, honestly, when I
talk to people, they don'tknow why. And so when you can help
somebody open that up andunderstand that now all of a sudden
we can, they can startshifting and all of a sudden they'll
start seeing things happening.And as things happen and we start
growing in our mind and thepossibilities and, and all of that,
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you know, when you see itexpand and, and ultimately what I
do is I help people take theconscious mind, which is what we're
focused on. The words we use,thoughts, we entertain the words,
the way we talk aboutourselves, you know, who we hang
out with, watch all thatstuff. But the knowing of what we
want is in our conscious mind.And one of my mentors, late Bob Proctor,
taught me this. And then wehave the subconscious mind, and all
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the subconscious mind does isabsorbs. But it's really important
to understand there's this,what I call a motherboard in our
subconscious that hosts all ofour programming, our patterns, our
paradigms, our experiences,even experiences. Maybe we didn't
have Jacqueline, but somebodytold us about, and it gets embedded
into that network. Well, thewhy that's important is because that
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subconscious is what triggersbrainwaves to the actions we take
or don't take. So you have theknowing of what you want, and you
can have all kinds of clarityon that. But if your programming
is working against you, andthis is exactly how I went into adulthood,
experiencing it doesn'ttrigger the brain waves to the actions
that will help align thosetwo. So what we do is we identify
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what those are, shift thosethings, and all of a sudden we start
noticing we're more inalignment with what we want and the
actions we're taking. And allof a sudden we start noticing the
huge changes on our exterior.
You know, there's. As you'retalking, like, you know, I. I love
what you're talking aboutbecause the mind is so flipping powerful,
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right? And we forget that we,you know, it's, you know, we all
have all these lenses that wehave developed from our experiences
in life, and we have tosometimes learn to shift the color
of the lens and see what we'reseeing so that we could see things
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differently. And it is trulyamazing that when you can go from
that point of. Of havingeverything turned off because you're
so focused, because you're soalmost like busy with whatever the
busyness is, and you haven'tslowed down, but when you can slow
down and you can sort of like,almost like smell the roses, it's
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amazing what comes to you. Asyou were saying, it's like you can
start hearing those things.The creativity comes back, you know,
when you can take these lovelyinstruments and put them away, you
know, and you just can sitthere and be.
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.You know, I'm fortunate. I get to
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live in the. In the mountains,South Carolina, all the way to the
west side of the state. And soI spend a lot of time just walking
in nature, sitting in nature,trout fishing on beautiful trout
streams, or not even fishing,just sitting there and stuff. And
the more time I do that, themore lines. And almost every business
owner I work with, I have toget them to throttle back a little
bit from what they're doing toget into alignment with this stuff,
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to even. Even just to noticewhat pro. You know, what they're
being triggered from theirsubconscious mind so they can be
aware of it. So in. In doingthat. And you said something absolutely
beautiful when you talkedabout that. The color of the lens.
You know, I call thatperceptions. And if we want to change
our results in what we'reexperiencing in life, we have to
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shift our perceptions. Theonly way I know to do it, let alone
quickly and long term, is wehave to identify and shift the programming
that's leading to thoseperceptions, that's leading to our
Experience.
Yep. Okay, so I want to shareabout, share something. But this
is when I keep thinking aboutlenses and changing our perception.
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It's so important. So themovie. Oh my God. Treasure. Whatever.
Indiana Jones.
No. Nicholas Cage.
Oh, oh, I remember the movie.Not the name.
Oh my God, I love the movie.And I cannot think of it anyway,
but he's like at, you know,he's in Philadelphia and they're,
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they get Ben Franklin'sglasses and they're looking at the
declaration of Independenceand it's like, oh. And they start
to shift the lenses and theysee the different patterns and that's
what like I love that, thatyou can people see things through
different lenses and changethat perspective. Because it does.
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All of a sudden the wholeworld, you know, opens up.
Yes. Changes. It does,absolutely. It shifts, you know,
an example of that. And ourprogramming is unique to the individual.
So that's why I'm not a bigadvocate of one size fit. All programs
do A, B and C and get to Dbecause we're all unique individuals.
I have four siblings. Wheneverwe've gotten together or get together
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and talk about like thecamping trips and the different vacations
we've been on together as afamily, there's five different stories
of that. Because we all haveour own unique programming which
leads to our own unique, youknow, the way we see it and stuff.
Perceptions of how we see it.
It is so true. It is so true.Is so. That is so true. Because it's,
it's also like, you know, youcould say like two, two people grow
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up in the same household. Howcan they be so different? It's, it's
every, you know, you're in thesame household, but you're experiencing.
Think things differently.
You're see things becausewe're processing them differently.
Because we're unique.
Yeah.
So that's why like I've reallybeen a huge advocate as I started
learning and understanding.The whole thing about the subconscious
and things like that is thatwhatever I do, I want it to be because
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I used to take those one sizefit out programs like the ABC to
get to D and I'd walk awaygoing, man, there must be something
the matter with me. Because Ididn't get near what they talk about
people getting out of it. Wellthen once I started understanding,
I needed something that workedfor me and my uniqueness. I don't,
I had to quit caring whateverybody else does and look at me
and what do I need. And as Istart doing that, so I start forming
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and that's what I help clientsdo today is let's identify. There
is no one pathway that worksfor everybody. It's impossible for
that to happen. So let's findyour unique pathway that just fricking
rockets you into the resultsyou want to get and beyond. A lot
of times.
That's awesome. So what is thesmart T Because method.
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It was hard to finish that,wasn't it?
Before we. Before Dr. J and Iwere talking before show and I. I
added a letter in therebecause, you know, if you do any,
you know, email programmingstuff, there's another letter in
some of that stuff. So Ithought I was stopping.
Probably really, really wrongof me to just let you hang with that
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too, wasn't it? But it wasfun, Jack. I had a good time there.
Thanks for the trickles. SoSMT method stands for subconscious
mindset training. And it's allabout identifying the programming
that's going on under thesurface within that subconscious
motherboard. And once weidentify it, now with the SMT method,
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we have tools to quickly shiftthat which then quickly change perceptions
and then open up avenues toachieve greater results for the same
amount of efforts or less.
Oh, that. Okay, so I likethat. So for same amount of efforts
or less, people like that. Soyour new book, reprogramming your
subconscious mind. The smtp.Smt. I just said it. The SMT method.
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Sorry, SMT method. This iswhat happens the. You know, for rapid
growth. So will the. If I. Wegrab the book and people get the
book, will they be able towalk themselves through the method
so that they can. They cansort of reprogram their subconscious
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themselves?
So. So that I designed andwrote the book. It explains the method,
but it's. It's literally whatI take my clients through.
Okay.
Is the process. My hopes inthe book is that it opens up blinders
for a lot of people just torealize there's something going on.
They're not aware. So they canstart noticing that and start bringing
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about changes. And one of thethings that was important for me
to do in this book is I have.It's not included in the book, but
I have a link that's at theend of every. Almost every chapter
that you can go to. Andthere's exercises to practice so
you can start seeing changehappening in those areas. You can
start noticing it. You canstart, you know, walking through
some tools as far as shiftingthose perceptions and start noticing
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a change.
I like that. So I like thefact that you have that the book
comes with exercises becausethat, I think is one of the things
that happens with a lot ofbooks that you will read something
and they'll be, you know,it'll say, okay, now get out a piece
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of paper or there you need todo this. But people don't necessarily
always do it because they, youknow, but being able to give them
the actual exercise to do it.
Yeah.
Is really great.
Yeah. Yeah. I actually thoughtabout writing in the book and like
the beginning of chapterthree, like before you read this,
please show me your works inchapter two.
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Accountability. Right. It's.It's that accountability part, right?
Yeah. Prove it.
But yeah, it is. And it's away of doing it and it's not really
exhaustive and, but it reallypointed to help focus in this. Find
that item and then focus onthe item. What's going on in your
thinking about that item andthat right away. And then I help
them to see, to point out how,how is it working for you or against
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you? The ones that are workingagainst you is programming you don't
need anymore.
Right. So you. And that'strue. Like once you've gotten some,
when you've moved to oneplace, you can keep moving on, but
you don't have to go back.
Yes.
You know.
Yes.
So. So you have had amazingsuccess. You know, you started in
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sales, you were. So how didyou, how did you become the success
and drive your growth?
It's, this is the whole thingwith anybody's pathway. It's not
a, it's not really a logicalprocess. Like, honestly, Jacqueline,
I, I shouldn't be here talkingwith you today. I shouldn't be doing
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the things I've done. Ishouldn't have been on magazines,
I shouldn't have wrote a book.I shouldn't impact people's lives.
I shouldn't have. Because whenI grew up in a very low income family
in Detroit, Michigan, watchingstruggle in everything, I didn't,
I was told growing up numeroustimes from numerous people, there's.
People meant to work theirhead and people meant to work with
their hands and you're goingto work with your hands. So I never
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really applied myself inschool. As soon as I graduated high
school, I went to a factoryand got a job cleaning out old mucky
oil from, from machines andthings like that and stuff, you know,
and I thought that was my lotin life and I was just going to do
that. And when I was 22 yearsold, I had a gentleman approach me.
He was kind of a mentor I sawmuch, much higher than I would ever
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go and stuff. But he wasgetting ready to retire. And he owned
a multimillion dollarconstruction company and he wanted
me to take over the business.He wasn't going to sell it to me
so I didn't have to come upwith a loan and stuff like that.
He knew me well in mysituation, so I was going to take
it over and over a seven yearperiod, share residual, you know,
revenues as they come in withthem for seven years. And that was
the most exciting day in mylife. Like I felt like somebody believed
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in me beyond what I everthought possible. Three days later
I told him I can't do that.And I probably should have explained
it because he could help mesee a different. But the reason I
said that is because I felt somuch guilt going through my whole
being that I didn't work hardenough to earn that. So I don't deserve
it. And that's at the pointwhen I said that and a couple other
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things happening is when Isaid, man, there's something really
wrong with me and I don't knowwhat it is, but I so badly want to
find it out. And it's been afour decade journey into leading
to all this stuff.
So did you, so what happenedafter that? Did you decide, I'm going
to go to school, I'm going to.
No, no, I was lost, completelylost. And then I started out getting
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counseling, trying to figureout what it was and they didn't hit
on that core of things likethat and stuff. And, and I did that
for a few years and, and thenfrom there I, I ended up meeting
a guy who was a very wealthyperson and he grew up around where
I did, you know, same kind ofneighborhood and stuff and, and similar
to how I did. And he was amulti millionaire in the pharmaceutical
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industry. A very high level, Iwon't say his name, a very high level
person in Pfizer and placeslike that and stuff. And we just
got to know each other andhe's not somebody I would have picked
to hung around with because Ithought they were so high above me
and such. But we hung out andstuff and over a matter of about
five months or six months, hesaw again somebody, he saw something
in me and so he would juststart talking about, man, you could
(20:09):
have any job or if you had,you know, a job, you know, and, and
he wanted me to go in salesand it's the last thing I ever wanted
to do was go into salesbecause I had that view of the, you
know, reception of a used carsalesman and something. So, so anyway,
so he ended up Talking me intointerviewing and stuff like that.
And what hooked me is when hegot me to say if I ever got into
White collar America, I wouldlove to have a company car and a
(20:30):
laptop computer. My firstcorporate job had a company car and
a laptop computer. And thenthat got me started. Then I went
into sales and I neverexpected to do, even struggled in
that for a long time. And thenI started diving deeper and deeper
and deeper. And at some pointI came across the subconscious mind
and all the studies I wasdoing, you know we talk about with
(20:51):
books, I used to read a bookall the way through and then I would
go back and create experimentsto do with that book. But all of
it was trying to figure outwhy what was the matter with me,
you know. So that addedanother level of complexity to it.
So then as I started doingsales and I went from barely getting
by traveling 3,000 to 5,000miles a week building the territories
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to understanding this, toidentifying it and then going out
find somebody who could help,which was very difficult to find
somebody who had theunderstanding of, I mean he had to
Neville Goddard and you know,Bob Proctor is, and things like that
stuff, but there wasn't manyof them. And so then as I started
learning that within a year Iwent from barely getting by to landing
18, 22, $25 million year overyear contracts for companies and
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doubling company sizes andthings like that with what I was
doing. So that moved me, thatended up elevating me up into a vice,
into director, you know, salesmanager and vice vice president positions
and stuff. And then later on Iwould help organizations in bankruptcy
get back to profitability. Andthat was a 28 year period that that
happened. And I've always hadthis desire in.
My heart to help out becauseyou don't really look like you're
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that old.
Thank you. I started when Iwas 2.
That's what I thought. Okay.Yeah. Thought you were lying.
Yeah, thank you for sayingthat. So, but, but then I then, so
as I, as I did that and stuffand then in the corporate job, the
last organization that was inbankruptcy and I was part of the
team to bring backprofitability and such, my dad had
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passed away of cancer. Andthen A year later, 56 years of marriage,
my mom passed away. She justnatural causes. She just didn't want
to be alive without him. And Ifound myself an orphan with this
big desire on my heart to helppeople. And I knew I was in that
way, but it wasn't, it wasn't,it didn't match the size of, you
know, what I felt, what mypurpose was. And, and I just said,
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you know, I, I don't knowexactly how I've already. Now at
that point, I had twocertifications into what I do today,
and I was going through theeducation stuff and things like that.
And I just, I said, when weget new owners in this organization,
I'm done. And so we got newowners. A week later, I resigned,
moved down here to SouthCarolina and I started going out,
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giving out five business cardsa day with introducing myself to
people. That's how I startedthis build.
That's awesome.
I shouldn't be here, but lookat statistics.
But you should be therebecause the way. And you say you
shouldn't. That's in yourbrain. You're so. You should be.
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Because, you know, you knowwhat I.
Said a few minutes ago,Jacqueline, that doesn't make logical
sense, right? That's theshouldn't be here part. Because logically,
if you look at only logic, itdoesn't make sense. And so we have
to step outside of logic toachieve what we really want to achieve,
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what we truly desire in ourheart to achieve and the level we
desire to achieve it. It's notgoing to come from logic. It's not
going to come from strategyalone. It's not going to come from
to do lists. It's not going tocome from following what Pete down
the street did or anybodyelse. It's not going to be a logical
pathway.
You know, the word logic iskind of an interesting word too,
(24:13):
right? Because when I hear,when I hear it, like you think it,
it's, it's true. It's like itdoesn't take a lot. It's not a logical
pathway to. Because a pathwayis never a straight up. It doesn't
just go. We don't always, youknow, you don't, you still don't
start here and go from point Ato point B as an upline. It is, you're
(24:36):
zigging and zagging and it'sup. And it's the intermoving of,
of your journey that happensto take you, you know, up and down
mountains, up and down stairs,zigging and zagging. And I was listening
to a book this morning, youknow, it's the book, you know, impossible.
(24:56):
And one of the things that theauthor was saying was also is that,
you know, successful people,you know, have not, don't have a
linear and logical journey.And it is that they have to explore
and kind of come to where theyare. They find what they truly love.
(25:20):
And, and are passionate aboutwhere they can then go and take the
direction. But it's never. Butyou don't think about it like, as
a. It. It's true. It's not,it's not the path where we think,
oh, he's going to go frompoint A to point B. Logical. He.
He became a doctor, so he'sgoing to obviously practice medicine
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and see patients logicallythinking, but maybe they don't.
You know, if you look at thefact of going like, and this is one
of the things I work with myclients on, and anybody listening
to this, this is, this, like,has had a huge, profound impact in
my life. And I know people Iwork with is, is, you know, when
we look at something and, andwe go, that's, oh, that's good, man.
(26:04):
And I excited that happened.Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. God, I
can't believe that happened.If I live by the judgment of that
within myself, I wouldn't behere. Because that judgment, when
I say that's bad, everythingstops. It can't go any further. But
(26:24):
when I look at giving up thatconstruction company and years later,
I looked at that constructioncompany and I went, man, that was
a good thing because thathelped build the desire and the passion
in my gut to break whateverthat was to fix that thing.
Right?
And so, so what I tell peopleis, you don't. This, you, you don't
know where this is going toend. But I believe, based on my life
(26:48):
and my walk in this world iseverything ends up leading to something
bigger and better for me, evenif it's just a life lesson. And that's
with relationships, finances,you know, what we do business wise,
like across the board, youknow, when we put that judgment on
there. I wrote another bookcalled Life's Lessons, and in there
I state very clearly, beforeit was popular is when I took the
(27:11):
judgment out of what washappening in my life. Like, it's
not good or bad, right? Wrong,fair, unfair or anything else. And
if I take on a belief thatlife happens, happens for me and
not to me, then I could startseeing what the lessons were in that.
But as long as I had judgment,I could never get through that. Because
if something happened bad tome, that means I'm a victim of something.
And if I'm a victim, I gotnowhere to go.
(27:32):
Right? Yeah. You know, it's.And what you just said is as is.
And I think this is listeners,I think this is something that is
really, really important foryou to have unstoppable success.
You have to make your lifehappen. Life doesn't happen to you.
And it's really important tobe able to know that distinction.
(27:56):
You don't. You want to. Youdon't want to just exist, but you
want to live with purpose andyou want to understand that things,
you know, happen. Things arenot happening. You can make your
life happen. They don't happento you. I mean, if something happens
that you don't, like, find thegood in it, find the lesson, find
(28:18):
the learning. It's. And I'llshare this story, which is, you know,
one of the things that made ahuge change in my life was I was
taking my kids to school onemorning and. And I was on the east
coast and I'm driving and I.It was amazing that I got to where
(28:43):
I was going because it was thecar thing, you know, it was not a
self driving car, but italmost was that day because I was
like, something is not right.Something is missing. Like, I literally
said to myself, jacqueline,you have started a point in your
life where you are justexisting. You're not living. You're
not living with purpose. And Iremember coming home that day. It
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was major, huge shift in mylife. I remember coming home that
day and writing out, like,rewriting my purpose and rewriting
out my mission and what do Iwant? And not just, not just the
need, but what do I want in mylife? And telling my husband, I'm
like, we're going to move. Andhe's like, what? I go, I'm done with
this. Like, I'm done. Like,we're going to move and we're not
(29:26):
going to stay where we arebecause this is not. We are. We are
existing and life about existing.
Yeah, you just motivated me.
Right, right. Well, and, andwhich, yeah, I'm glad I motivated
you, but the point is, like,what you're doing too, like Dr. J,
what you're doing is soimportant to help people because
(29:46):
so many of us do go throughlife existing, and we need to live
knowing that even whatever,you know, if you've had baggage.
Baggage, yeah, you'll see somelenses through there. But, you know,
guys, go get the book andrewrite. Rewrite the lenses that
you're seeing and reprogramyour mind because you have to be
(30:07):
able to say, you know, drawthe line in the sand, say, uncle,
whatever, do the taps, youknow, and say, today's the day. Yes,
we're making a shift. I'mgoing to live with purpose. And you
know that you're going to wakeup every single day living with purpose.
And being unstoppable and have it.
You don't have to have. Youdon't have to have the full roadmap
(30:29):
or plan or action plan or allthat to do that. You just got to
make a choice and those thingswill start showing up for you. And
that's how I help companies,organizations, rapidly scale. I don't
have every answer for them. Asfar as you're going to do a B, and
then you're going to do thisand then you're going to do that,
and you're going to do this,this long and that that long. I don't.
But what we do is we open upthat possibility of that. And as
(30:50):
we do, all of a sudden thingsstart showing up and things start
flowing and everything else. Ilove that story you shared because
that's that unconscious. Thatday. You. We live unconsciously,
and as we live unconsciously,that pattern that programming in
our subconscious displays overand over and over, almost like on
autopilot, and we're justfollowing it. I had a guy one time
that said to me, I don't haveany patterns. I don't have those
(31:12):
things. And I go, really?Okay, here's what I want you to do
tomorrow when you. And I justthought, top of my head. When you
shower tomorrow, I want you tolather 12 times and be done and then
rinse. He called me back thenext day and call me an mf, but he
used the real words. And hegoes, you know, I did it 12 times,
and I stopped and he said, Icouldn't do it. I had to go back
(31:33):
and finish my pattern. And soeven in things that small, it helps
us to identify. We havepatterns. And then when I could see
one of them, then I becomemore attuned to, well, what else
am I saying? What else am Idoing? What other things am I doing
without even fully realizing,like driving, realizing. And I'm
doing it fully conscious ofit. And we can start noticing those
(31:57):
things, right?
You know, it's so true thatyou just said it, because I'm thinking
when you're talking about the,the washing of the hair, you know,
so many times people like, youknow, you know, you, you subconsciously
do a pattern in the showerbecause you've been doing it for
so long, right? It's likebrushing our teeth. Same thing, right?
You, you do it. You, you justdo it. And, and it's the days that
(32:20):
something goes maybe a littleawry, where you're like, you know,
you don't have the same amountof time or something. Happens or
as, and as you said, there'sa, there's an instance that somebody
experiences something. Right.Like, and embrace it. And you're
like, oh. And then maybe youmight even feel weird. You're like,
(32:40):
I didn't get to do the wholething. And I. You don't feel right.
You feel like a little funnybecause something shifted in the.
Yes. If you really track that,Jacqueline, if you track that throughout
that day, there's other thingsthat will follow that once we open
that door. Depending on howunconsciously somebody's living,
they may not even notice thatstuff. But there'll be other things
(33:03):
like that where it's like,okay, you know, we'll start noticing
changes in those patterns. Andthe way it shows up is discomfort.
It feels uneasy. It feelslike, well, that's not right. But
that's exactly how to get tothat other side.
Right.
So like I told you, as far aslike throttling back business owners,
when I work on them and theyhave such a hard time if people are
(33:23):
going, I don't even know ifyou're the right guy for me. I go,
just try it. If I'm not, thenyou can leave and you know, whatever
and stuff like that. Buteverybody who does it in a very short
period of time sees thebenefit of doing that.
Yeah. You know, and it's, andit's, it's fascinating. And I think
that, I think more listeners,you take the steps to get outside
(33:45):
what you do on a day to dayand get, and take what you do unconsciously
and break the habit and breakthe pattern so that you can start
being open to new thingscoming in and flowing. So I, I, you
know, I think it's soimportant. Okay, so Dr. J, tell everybody
(34:07):
how they can connect with you.Get more of all the greatness.
Anybody can go to coach withJoey.com, set up a 50 minute call.
There's something that wetalked about here, you know, and
I tell people whether, whetherit's something that you're like,
okay, well how would I applyit here? This or that, that's what
the phone calls for. It's notsales pitch. I don't talk about my
programming or anything. I do,I might reference the book because
it's new, I'm really, reallyexcited about it stuff. But it's
(34:28):
not a sales pitch or anything.And it's really just to serve people
so people can go tocoachwithjoey.com and schedule a
time with me.
Okay, so we're going to put inthe show notes, coach with Joey.com.
yes, we will also have a linkto your book so people can grab the
(34:49):
book. Please, please, please,please listeners, grab the book.
I'm going to go grab the bookbecause I haven't read it yet and
I wish I had. But I will readthat book and I will do the exercises.
Anybody want to do them withme just let me know. But please also
do me a favor. Connect withDr. J on socials, go to his website,
(35:11):
get that appointment with himso you can have that deeper connection.
And listeners, do me one otherfavor. Please hit subscribe and share
this episode because I willguarantee you when you share this
episode you are going to helpmore people than you know. So I really
appreciate it. Thank you forlistening. I'm Jacqueline Schomager,
the host of UnstoppableSuccess and thank you Dr. J for being
(35:35):
a great, amazing guest. Thank you.
Absolutely.
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