May 14, 2025 • 58 mins
This episode we're discussing Mike Diana's SOV masterpiece, Blood Brothers from 1989. There's a lot to discuss about his entanglements with censorship as well as the subjectivity of his art, so for some additional context, check out Frank Henelotter's documentary, Boiled Angels: The Trial of Mike Diana.
Next episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJXMY-8NNbk
Mike Diana's website: https://mikedianacomix.com/
Klon Waldrip's interviews with Mike Diana and Frank Henenlotter:
https://diaboliquemagazine.com/boiled-angels-blood-brothers-and-brain-damage-an-interview-with-artist-mike-diana/
https://diaboliquemagazine.com/frank-henenlotter-discusses-boiled-angels-and-more/
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Next episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJXMY-8NNbk
Mike Diana's website: https://mikedianacomix.com/
Klon Waldrip's interviews with Mike Diana and Frank Henenlotter:
https://diaboliquemagazine.com/boiled-angels-blood-brothers-and-brain-damage-an-interview-with-artist-mike-diana/
https://diaboliquemagazine.com/frank-henenlotter-discusses-boiled-angels-and-more/
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Prepare yourself for the terror the prison of madness. We
have a few inter and Nonritter.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to Unsung Horrors.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
With LUNs.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
And Denka.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Leave all your sanity behind. It can't help you now.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcast where
we discuss underseen horror films, specifically those which have fewer
than one thousand views on letterboxed.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
I'm Erica and I'm Lance Who.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I don't know who this person is sitting next
to me. I don't think I've Oh wait, I have.
I've met you before.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's been a while.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
I did not miss that.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I missed you very much.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I missed you very much as well. It's been a
rough six months. Yeah, still recovering, but just really needed
to come back and do what I love. Talk to
my friend about underseeing horror movies. Listen to his terrible puns,
Listen to his dulcet voice of when he sings.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I can't think of a tune. I'm just getting emotionally,
got nothing to sing. Yeah, No, it's it's a necessary break,
a good hiatus. I think it's helped in a lot
of aspects, but I'm very happy to be back. I've
missed you. I missed all this, missed the listeners. Yes,
I mean some of the comments, the positive comments when
(01:49):
we announced we were coming back was very very sweet,
very touching, and I'm not gonna lie. Whenever we record.
In the back of my mind, I'm always thinking of
the Discord channel and everybody who's active there. So really
appreciate everybody that you know has stuck with us.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Yeah, thank you for your patience, and just want to
encourage anybody who is having a rough time that it's
okay to take a break. Yes, whatever you love is
still going to be there when you're ready. I'm not ready, actually.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, just if you take a break, you're going to
come back and feel rusty. I feel like these are
going to be the next two episodes will be like
dress rehearsals.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yes, if you've heard our first couple episodes, it's going
to be like that. So sorry, in advance, I will
do my best in the editing room.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh yeah, I could luck with this episode. Like, I'm
sorry for all the mistakes I'll be making that you
have to cut out.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
That's all right, Well, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Just don't move around too much because that chair is squeaky. Yeah, okay,
So I wanted to come back with what I think
is an absolute banger, and not just the movie itself.
I also wanted something very short, which this is.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's under an hour, yeah, fifteen minutes. I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
But there's a lot to talk about with the person
who made this film, and I think that, especially with
the environment that we're in and talking about censorship, I
think it's a very sort of timely movie to talk about.
So I'm very excited to talk about Blood Brothers from
nineteen eighty nine. This is available right now to watch
(03:26):
on Archive and currently has three hundred and forty four
views on letterboxed. So I am not going to give
a film summary on this because A there really isn't
a narrative to follow here, and B I think you
just have to know who Mike Diana is for this.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
So for reference, the letterbox.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Synopsis says, quote, in nineteen eighty six, as a teen,
Mike Diana bought a video camera and, using his younger
brother and sister as actors, made a gore film inspired
by the horror videos he was fan of unquote. So
if someone came across that and didn't know who Diana is,
they would probably be confused, Like just the way that
(04:11):
the Letterbox synopsis is present it. We're going to spend
a lot of time talking about who Mike Diana is
to give context for the Letterbox synopsis itself, and then
we'll talk about the movie itself. But I mentioned this
film is available to watch on archive. It is lumped
together with one of his other movies, and that's Baked
(04:32):
Baby Jesus, which Lance, I saw you watch that on Easter.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I did, and I recommend any type of holy religious
stay to pop this on. It was such a blast.
I loved that movie so much. I love Blood Brothers,
which we'll get into, but yeah, Bake Baby Jesus is
over two hours long. Yes, it's like a compilation of
a lot of his previous films, kind of like what
he did in Blood Brothers. I will talk about. But
(04:58):
it's just it has a narrative and I think he
can interpret it. You know, a lot of people have
different interpretations, but I think it does have a clear
narrative and it's I loved it so much, especially on
the Holy Day of Eastern.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I do love the actual title of Baked Baby Jesus.
It is not lying there is an actual baked baby
because this is in this movie.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
They prep it. It's the Last Summer at the Last Supper. Well,
it's Baked Baby Jesus colin the Second Coming.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
That's right to you. Mm.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And I love the credits that he does in the movies.
He spray paints them on the wall. It's just original stuff,
you know, from the early nineties. But yeah, yeah, there's
literally a baked Baby Jesus. I think it's the same doll.
It's in Blood Brothers too, yes, in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, he's also now he's not listed as director on Letterboxed,
but the credits on Affliction from nineteen ninety six list
him and Mark Heshnar as co compiler. So if you
actually watch it, you'll see his name and Mark at
the end as co compilers.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
That one I watched on Noodle and it's on there
and nowhere else for a reason. Hardcore sex, nudity, all
all the things are on there, So watch it if
you want. I encourage you know, we're sex positive here,
so I would encourage folks to check that out. Make
sure you have an ad blocker though.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, yeah, that's it's always fun to watch stuff on Noodle.
I'm just like okay, and then the background there's.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Like just like yeah, it's like oh wow, okay, that's
that's all right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
I get the ad blocker for Noodle. I mean you
should have one anyway, But.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Sometimes I just shut it off though, because I it's
an experience with with with the ads popping up.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Okay, okay, So again, before we get into Blood Brothers itself,
I think a good introduction to Diana for anyone who
is unfamiliar with him, or maybe you are familiar with
him and you just haven't seen this before. Frank Henon
Lawd's twenty eighteen documentary called Boiled Angels the Trial of
(07:07):
Mike Diana, you know, it gave me a lot of
context about the trial itself, Like I had heard about
it years ago, and I want to say I either
heard about it through Henry Rowlins or Jello Biofra spoken
word like just mentioned in passing and I remembered like,
oh wow, like some a comic book artist actually got
(07:30):
convicted of obscenity.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Which yeah, charged and convicted. It was like completely never
I mean never done before. I mean it's just kind
of mind blowing. But I do have to point out
that Jello Biafra does narrate the film, which is a
genius move.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Oh absolutely, Like I will listen to Jello Biopra like anything.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I love him. But yeah, so good tie in there.
So it probably was.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Jello that I've first heard about it. Now that that
makes sense, so I think all so for readers. Another
great resource besides You Know the documentary, besides Diana's work itself,
are two interviews on Diabolique's site by our friend of
the show, Clon Waldrip. I will link those in show
notes along with Mike Diana's website so that people can
(08:18):
read more from him directly. Great interviews from Clon. Everyone
should check those out if you haven't already. I know
he linked him in our discord as well, so some
folks might have checked those out.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I mentioned already.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
You Know. So the very short version of You Know
Mike Diana's biography is that he is the first and
only artist to be convicted, not just arrested or charged,
but convicted of obscenity for the comics that he wrote
and drew, specifically two issues of Boiled Angels issues seven
(08:51):
and eight, so hence the title of hen and Latter's documentary.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Now, he did not go to prison.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I think he went for just like a few days
during the trial or right after the but he got
three years probation and he was not allowed to draw
anything in his own home that might be considered obscene,
even for private use. This all came after he was
suspected of being the Gainesville Ripper a few years earlier.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, yeah, and he was. He was forced to do
a psychiatric evaluation. You know, he had to pay out
of pocket. But yeah, the completely like unprecedented stuff was you,
as an artist, are not allowed to draw for three years,
which is just unheard of. Yeah, I did some researchers
to see if you know, anything like that has ever
been you know, just passed down for judgment in a trial.
(09:38):
And you know, there's other performance artists that have been
charged for obscenity, like Lenny Bruce and Larry Flynt. George
Carlin was arrested or I think he was arrested, but
none of them were charged or none of them were convicted.
But Lenny Bruce in nineteen sixty one, he was arrested
for obscenity when he used the word cocksucker in a
stand up and he also used the schmuck, which is
(10:00):
a Yiddish word that means penis apparently, so he was arrested.
And it's similar to what the judge did with Diana.
He was told that he can't say anything obscene during
his shows, and Bruce is like, well, what do you
consider to be obscenity? And he said, just any inappropriate words,
nothing inappropriate, okay.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
So that's very thank you for the clear direction exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So he would, you know, basically his stand up became
talking about the trial, but every stand up he did
after that, cops from the city or wherever he was
performing would have to post up in the back of
the audience and stuff. So yeah, it's crazy how you
tell somebody that you can never drag in, especially when
you're that young.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
And I know. Yeah, okay, So Diana we mentioned was convicted. Now.
I think what's significant is that it was in a
small court system in Florida, So I don't think anything
like this would have happened in like, you know, California
or New York. I think it was because it was
in this like small town Florida where all of this
(11:08):
was discovered and the charges were brought against him. I
don't want to get too deep into the documentary because
I think everyone should should watch it. I think it's
getting a Blu Ray release soon, But I do want
to kind of talk about, well, how does someone get
convicted of obscenity? And so the basis for Diana's conviction
was the Miller test, and this was the legal standard
(11:31):
for obscenity in the US, established by the Supreme Court
in nineteen seventy three. No, it's a three pronged test
used to determine whether something is legally obscene and therefore
not protected by the First Amendment. Now, the content in
question must meet all three of the following, not just
one or two of these. So there's prurient interest, which
(11:55):
means whether the average person applying contemporary communities, and that
word community is key, would find the work taken as
a whole, appeals to the perient interest. So translation, would
a normal person in that community think that the material
is meant to turn you on sexually in a grosser
exploitative way. So again that community standards is the key
(12:20):
point there for him getting convicted, because what is considered
obscene in Largo, Florida, is not going to be considered
obscene in Manhattan or Venice Beach, California. The second prong
is patently offensive whether the work depicts or describes in
a patently offensive way sexual conduct specifically defined by the
(12:42):
applicable state law. Again vague translation. Does a material clearly
cross a line in how it shows sex, nudity, or
other stuff spelled out in the state's obscenity laws. It
can't just be racy. It has to be blatantly offensive
by legal definition. And even then we're still getting into
really like vague, like.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Gray or subjective?
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Is everything subjective here? And then the third prong was.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
That it lacks serious value. Whether the work taken as
a whole lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Translation Is there any redeeming value if it has serious
artistic or political meaning, even to one expert, it's likely protected.
Now this part is judged by national standards, not local ones.
(13:31):
So according to the Largo, Florida court system, Mike Diana's
work hit all of those three prongs, and so he
was convicted. Now we're talking about boiled angels. Lance, I
see you've got some stuff over there.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, I ordered his Everybody should go to Mike Diana's website.
It's Mike Diana Comics with comics spelled co m i
X dot com, Lincoln Lincoln, show notes, linking, show notes. Yeah,
one hundred percent, and I picked up. He has a
Boiled Angel Lives box set which he screen prints a
beautiful image on the box itself, signs and numbers it.
(14:11):
All eight issues of Boiled Angel are in here. I'm
gonna do a show intell, but the show is only
for Erica. Sorry, guys. I did post pictures of this
on Instagram if anybody wants to see it, but we
could post it too. He did a little nice little
drawing on a thank you note, which is only for me.
I didn't put that on Instagram. A couple stickers, but yeah,
all eight of the issues he did from I believe
(14:33):
nineteen eighty nine to ninety one. I think he basically
he doesn't do a lot of films anymore or any
because doing comics is pretty much a one person job.
You don't have to get a group of friends to
be involved. It's obviously a lot more time and where
I think I read an interview he could just sit
down and do comics all day. And yeah, you know,
(14:54):
he sees the actual outcome immediately. But yeah, all these
boiled angels I kind of went through. I don't know,
I kind of almost killed myself in this. Like I
read issue one when I got the box immediately, you know,
and looked through all of them. But then I read
back to back issues two through six, and I have
(15:14):
to say, I hope nobody from the government's listening because
I went on a killing spree. I wanted to kill
children immediately after reading these. No I joke. But like
all the contributors that he gets involved in each of
these issues, his art even an issue one here he
calls out Blood Brothers, which I know you didn't give
a summary, but he gives his own summary in this issue.
(15:35):
Please do so let me read this. So the first
issue is really good because his editorials is quite long
compared to the other issues, because it's the introduction to
this new zine he was creating. But he says, Okay,
I just finished two short films I've been working on,
Blood Brothers and Sleazy Love. I did them on almost
a zero dollar budget, So they do have their faults.
(15:58):
They dragging parts. It beats watching the boring six o'clock news.
If you're interested in owning a copy, and send five
dollars to me and the tape will be on its way.
Let me give you an idea of what the films
are about. Blood Brothers is about two fourteen year old
punks that go around murdering average citizens, snorty nose candy,
giving free abortions, and one even turns into Jesus Christ.
(16:21):
And then Sleazy Loves about a fourteen year old kid
that likes to spit in his pet dog's mouth and
eat trick cereal in the name of God. All these
scenes are in Baked Baby Jesus. They end up being
in that movie which Abby already said I love. It's
two hours of greatness. Then he meets a dead girl
and falls in love with her, and they go to
the park and eat hostess fruit pies and pet gators
and live happily ever after until the young boy finds
(16:44):
it she is a heat. But he's said. The two
films are recorded on one tape. It's about an hour
and thirty minutes avail long VHS. Only you know send
five dollars today too, So yeah, there's his summary of
Blood Brothers, which I feels accurate. One turns into Jesus Christ,
which we're going to talk about. But look at these
like this is just the best. Yeah, most of the
issue one is Mike Diana. Then he starts getting heavily
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and a lot of people start contributing. I want to say, like,
I want to even say that issues six, seven, and eight,
which really got him into the trip into most of
the trouble with the trial. Most of them were from
other contributors, but they just focused in on him because
his address was the only one that's kind of posted
in there. But everybody should look into this. It's it
can't be a little pricey, but I think it's one
hundred percent worthy and worth it. It's you can get
(17:29):
each issue by itself if you don't want to buy
a box set. I've already picked up and ordered a
few other things, like more recent comments in his teas.
I love this Spoiled Angel lives. Yeah, that's the best.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I'm going to invest in there as soon as I can.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Leave these here if you want to read that, if
you want to read through them, I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
I need to give myself a goal to get a
job so that I can buy the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So I just going to hang this carrot over here.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Oh yeah, hang the carrot.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Hang the carrot, Erica, get your lazy ass back to work.
Oh God. So I think something from Clon's interview with
Diana that I thought was fascinating was that Diana said
that the undercover officer when he ordered the Boiled Angels,
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he said, I had advertised Blood Brothers and Bake Baby
Jesus videos and Boiled Angels number six. It sounds like
he's all he's advertising them in all of them. He
ordered the videos, he and he ordered Boiled Angels. Eventually,
when I got my lawyer, I saw the paperwork and
it said something along the lines of quote, even though
(18:40):
Blood Brothers and Bake Baby Jesus are in bad taste,
there's nothing that breaks the obscenity law within the videos unquote.
I always wondered what kind of screening room did they have?
Did they watch the whole thing beginning to end?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I have that exact quote pulled from that interview. Yeah,
I love that whole segment. Just envisioning these cops that
are watching and how they can different differentiate and deem
Baked Baby Jesus not offensive, but these comics that I've
read through it doesn't make sense. Yeah, And I don't
know if it's because it's printed and can be passed
around easily, Like I don't know what the reasoning is. Yeah,
(19:14):
because there's some I mean, Baked Baby Jesus is.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
It's on another level.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah. I mean a boy wakes up pisses on a
crucifix in the toilet, which is like it's like a
morning ritual. It's like a power move of like you
wake up and brush your teeth. This kid pisses on
a crucifix and then he gives birth to baby Jesus
and they eat moon pies and Jesus like it.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The dog eats out of the baked Baby Jesus like,
you know, good girl. But yeah, it's it's on another level.
And I say that because so when I first watched
Blood Brothers, I was like, oh my god, it's just
like a cornucopia of dead children all over the place.
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I was like, this is fantastic, this is amazing. And
then getting further into it, learning about Diana, learning more
about like boiled angels and everything all the content that's
within there and bath baby, Jesus, all these things. I
was like, you know what, Okay, So side note, Here's
what I've been doing in all my time off since
(20:21):
I got laid off, is I've a been looking for
a job be working on Sweetest Taboo Volume two.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Now what when I realized when I came across this
and I finally I finally watched it, was there needs
to be a hall of Fame in Sweetest Taboo. And
Mike Diana is inducted into the Sweetest.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Taboo is the first inductee.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
He is the first. There is another deal and that's
that's part of my double feature pick. So we will
get to that. But yeah, he I emailed Mike Diana.
I reached out and I said, would you be willing
to do an interview for the book? And he agreed
and he is also going to be doing commission art
(21:08):
piece for it as well. So I'm given our listeners
like a sneak peek at like what's coming for volume two.
I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I did not get his answers back for the interview
yet for this, which is fine. You guys can wait
for the book.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You have to buy the book, So I don't have
any information directly from him about it, but I think
there's a lot of stuff out there already from Klon's interviews,
from you know, from just having the copies of Boiled Angels,
We've got plenty of information about Diana. But really, Blood
Brothers is just it's on another level. Diana is on
(21:45):
another level. He is so soft spoken and smart and
genuine in everything that I've heard him speak in and
I think that's I think that's what puts a lot
of people off about his artwork, at least to people
who were offended by it, is because they'll hear him
speak and they'll think these things don't match up. There
(22:07):
must be something wrong with.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Him, right.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
And one of the things Hennen Lauter said in Klon's
interview about Diana's work was that all of his art
is about victimization in some way, and.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I think that's true.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I think there's a lot that people who've been victims
can get from from his work, and I think that's
aside from the content itself.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I think that's.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
What scares a lot of people, is being confronted with victimization.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I agree with that, because he Yeah, he presents
himself and his work in such a calm and polite manner,
and you know, there again, we don't want to spoil you.
Everybody should watch this documentary that Hen and latter put out.
But some of the people that did confront him, a
lot of religious people, they were able to actually contact
them afterwards, and some of them were a bit apologetic
(23:01):
about they how they interpreted him as a person, which
was really interested to see. But going back to Bake
Baby Jesus, I feel like, I don't know, I feel
like Baby Jesus helps establish why Mike Diana might do
a lot of his art because it focuses it on
a lot of the protests that happen in the area
(23:22):
concerning an abortion and how violent pro life people can
be and pro choice people can be. He records great
long segments of the six o'clock News which he points
out and boiled Angel's issue one where all it is
is about serial killing and people killing children and it's
in real life, and this is all real life, and
you know a lot of overdubbed stuff. Also on Big
(23:43):
Baby Jesus, there's like a wonderful random voiceover during one
of the scenes that says, like watch Uncle Buck, it's
the best Thanksgiving. It's obviously it's chaos, but he hits
on a lot of key points that basically changes how
young children can they form their you know, their their
(24:03):
ideas and their interpretations on just life and human humankind.
And I feel like, bake baby Jesus like that to me,
that's kind of the narrative that it's just driving home
like what people are putting out, what adults are putting
out in the world and sharing with the world isn't
necessarily news, but it's almost a way to scare you
to death, to where it's same with religion. Yeah, it's
(24:24):
just it's it's there to almost to scare you to live,
like and he's he's drawing these funny versions of that
that are completely off the wall, but they do have
a real connotation.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Like I don't Yeah, I mean, there's a hypocrisy in
that that he's pointing out by having that long loop
of the news, like, look at all the violence that
is a already happening in the world. This is real
versus what I'm drawing, what I'm filming with my friends
with fake blood. Right, you know, there's a hypocrisy in
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the people who are focusing on what we're putting on
the news and what we're prioritizing to share with other people,
and then him in turn being convicted for having something
that they deem offensive. That is fake, that's not real.
I mean that really resonated with me. I'm not saying
(25:22):
like what I've done is anywhere near what Diana has done,
but putting together a book about dead kids in movies, yes,
is not in good tea.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
If you had done this in nineteen eighty nine, you
you would probably be on trial or something like somebody
would want so many people would be after you.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Toby would come to my mind defense, he would he
would get on the stand and now.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I can see that he's in a little suit.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
High on little glasses.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
But yeah, this whole, it's it's it's a subject of that.
It's what's happening at the time. You know, the eighty
nine and you know there's the whole satanic panic that's
going on, the whole parental advisory explicit content is happening
during this time. Uh, you know, the whole When I
was a young kid, there was a motto that's Tipper
Gore is a whore. Yep. And because she had what
(26:13):
I had read the stories is she had purchased Prince's
Purple Rain and she listened to the song Darling Nikki,
which is obviously an amazing song, yeah, but very sexual
about a sex fiend. So she thought, well, my kid
can't be listening to this. Are other kids listening to this?
So they just stuck this parental advisory content sticker all
(26:34):
over everything, theticker, the tipper sticker. Yeah, and I remember
very VIVIDI like some of the albums I had. I
had Anthrax, Attack of the Killer Bees, of course, Two
Live Crew is when I also had an oversized, like
white T shirt that had the parental advisory sticker on it,
and where like you check me out. Yeah, I had
my fucking tight rolled Stonemash jeans. I was ready to go.
(26:58):
I had the I mean, that's what I love about
Blood Brothers and all these Mike Diana films too, is
that is a mirror image of me at that age. Well,
I was talking to my friend about MTV. I think
we were talking about this vjays, Like he didn't know
who Adam Curry was, and I was like explaining to
what Adam Curry was and Ricky Rackman and Duff and
(27:18):
Kennedy and all these personalities. And then he said he
didn't know who these people were. And I was like,
did you even have MTV growing up? And he was
from Longview, Texas and he said no, actually the city
banned MTV from my city, from from our county or whatever.
And I was like, are you who did this? And
he said it was a church group and I looked
it up and sure as hell, in nineteen ninety one,
(27:41):
there was a New York Times article like from Tyler,
Texas where they banned MTV this religious group from you know,
from circulation and from being like stations couldn't pick it
up in their area.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Fuck.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
And I was like, dude, so you you don't know
who these people are.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Do you want to feel really old for a second.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I mean, yes, Kurtloader is eighty years old.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I saw that. That's actually what brought up the entire conversation.
He sent that to me and he's I don't think
this is real, and I was like, I looked it up.
I was like, well, Kurt Loader was old.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
When we were.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Watching, we were getting our news from Kurtlader.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So yeah, like when Kobaine killed himself, like you know,
breaking news, the MTV break.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Tabathasauran she was the other one. All right, we're dating ourselves?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Are young? Do we have young listeners?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Adam Curry is like one of the biggest, like dating
like that dude with the feathered hair and yeah, yeah,
I miss I'm missing TV the way it was back
in my day. We would they'd play music. It's not
Road Rule, Real World Challenge.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Is MTV even Yeah, it's still it's still Is it
all just reality shows?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Then? I don't know. I would think as Sarah, she's
probably at home watching it right now. If she's watching it,
I can answer, yes, it is reality show.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
All right?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Did now did Sarah watch Blood.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Brothers with you? Oh? No, Okay, I think no. That's
the thing too. With the hiatus to get back to
our break, I feel like I should have been just
charging through and watching a bunch of movies. My movie
intake is just completely dropped off same and I'll get
to like my pick too. It's like affecting like I need.
That's why I'm really excited about getting back into the podcast,
because it helped me watch the movies that I love.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, it's my movie watching has definitely dropped off. It's
May and I'm already thinking about, like, god damn, my
end of year episode picks are going to be horrendous.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
I have not watched anything.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It's gonna be like Blood Brothers, Bake Baby Jesus.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I mean that's fine, but like I always like to
shout out movies that we didn't talk about on the podcast.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
And so I will.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I am pledging to do better with my movie watching
for the rest of the year. It's really just fallen off.
It's been hard to motivate. Like anybody who suffers from anxiety,
you understand, like there you have good days, you have
bad days. I had a shit morning and then Lance
showed up and so now I feel better. But yeah,
it's I'm happy to get back to doing what we do,
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and that's talking about these movies.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
That more people need to see.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
You gave that quick you know synopsis or summary that
Diana had in his essay are in his Boiled Angels
number one. Yeah, it's a couple of kids, Blood Brothers.
I think they actually cut themselves and smear their own
blood together.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's what it looks like. If not, I'm very impressed
with that special effect.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Same.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Have you ever made a blood packed Oh yeah, okay, okay,
it's our age. I don't like now. I think it
would freak people out.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They I mean, they're they're already they don't even kids
nowadays don't even kiss. They're like ew swapspit gross like
they yeah, they don't mean.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I kind of get that now, the older I get.
I'm like, okay, maybe I am hit. I'm going to kiss.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
You don't like watching people kiss on in movies anyway,
it's like sloppy kids.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, it's like, yeah, well, actually, what movie was it
the sloppy kissing that I just love? I think it
was in hell Hole or something.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's like vic I don't know it. Yeah, I mean,
I'll watch it if it's just exaggerated and completely unnecessary. Yeah,
But if it's like a Leonardo DiCaprio ugly cry kiss,
I'm like, get out of here with that.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
So, I mean Blood Brothers itself, it's fifty minutes. It's
a couple of kids just going around killing other kids.
It has another movie that Diana shot called The Shed
just like kind of lumped into it. At the end,
which I love, and so here this is my experience
(31:45):
when I when I first watched it. I'm just going
to share, like this is my actual write up for
Sweetest Taboo. This is what's going to be in the
book about Blood Brothers.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Now, to be.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Fair, like this could change. So you're getting draft one
of this. Hang on, I gotta scroll down fifteen pages
because I got a lot of movies in there whom
the gods wished to destroy. Okay, Blood Brothers nineteen eighty nine,
The letterbox synopsis says it all. In nineteen eighty six,
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as a teen, Mike Diana bought a video camera and,
using his younger brother and sister as actors, made a
gore film inspired by the horror videos he was a
fan of running a mirror fifty minutes. Blood Brothers is
the rawst soov you will ever watch script What's that retakes?
Because everyone looks straight into the camera or smiled while
they were being dismembered or killed, shaw editing get fucked.
(32:45):
In other words, it's perfect. It's an It is unfiltered
teenaged angst, the kind that could only be captured with
a camcorder. Some handmade shirts and fake blood, paid for
by everyone's pooled allowance. What does it take to get
into the Hall of Fame in this book, an honor
that wasn't even bestowed upon John Carpenter's Assault on Pre
(33:05):
six thirteen or Herming Yow's The Untold Story, A movie
that decided that killing just one kid and made it
into one chapter of this book wasn't good enough. Not
even killing two in different ways to make it into
the final chapter was good enough. It packs in more
child deaths and honorable mentions in fifty minutes than anything
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you've ever seen, and proves that kids are good at
two things, dying and making sov movies. Here's just some
of the reasons that Mike Diana's Blood Brothers is the
first inductee into the sweetest taboo Hall of Fame. A
baby doll covered in blood with a syringe sticking out
of its head, the greatest cocaine line cuts in cinema,
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maybe even real life. Severed heads and tongues flung about,
but not decapitated heads. No, those go straight into the
garbage can blood oas with real blood. I think they're
actually cut themselves. Killing your blood brother trust. No one
cranking out a score on a cranking out a score
on a cassio musical talent not required in fact, that
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would be frowned upon. Coat hanger abortion followed by sneaker
stomping the potato sized parasite aka fetus. Safety pins being
not so safe they weren't just for punk fashion or
holding your clothes together. In the eighties, stigmata, multiple strangulations, baghead,
Jason Vorhees, buried, burned alive, glue huffing fever. Dream finale
(34:34):
with a kid thrown in a dryer, another with a
hammer in her skull, another who has a television dropped
on his head and lives only to drop it on
another kid's head, and a kid who is lawnmowered to death.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Credits on yellow.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Sticky notes made in Florida.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Brilliant. Love it you? Just yeah. Usually we go over
these episodes, like what are your favorite favorite moments you've listened?
Speaker 6 (34:59):
I can't pick either, not just want.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I mean maybe the kid in the dryer, because I
always love a good appliance death.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, you got the twenty four inch lines of cocaine
that's stacked three inches high that these kids are doing. Yes,
you got there's tons of organ licking going on in
this movie, which you have kids, you know, disemboweling other
kids and removing what looks to be like three hearts
from their stomach licking. There's so much. Yeah, it's fifty
(35:27):
minutes of the best. Like this is like the best
shot on video. Yeah, that was a great write up.
I don't know if there needs to be edits to that.
I'll just point that out now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I mean, I'll read it again in two years before
we go to print, and then you know.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Then decide.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
But yeah, it's just I say it's the rawest sov
because it's you know, unfiltered, It's it's exactly your You
feel like you were there. I know you probably it
resonates with you because you did this exact thing when
you were a kid with your friends, making your own
movies with your own camera.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Like these are the kinds of things.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
That I love and like that make me feel nostalgic,
Like I don't like, Yeah, sure I love Friday the
Thirteenth movies too, but I don't feel like genuine nostalgia
like I do with something like this.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
This makes you feel like yeah, because you can see
the inspirations you mentioned Baghead Bohies you can and even
the TV that could be pooled from like Elm Street.
Speaker 9 (36:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, but yeah, this makes you feel like maybe it's
again us aging ourselves, But it makes me feel like
I'm there, like I could have I'm not like this
is no shade, like I could have made something like
this as a kid. Yeah, and it's just that's what's
so appealing about it. But yeah, when we did our
c double TV, our Captain Trips television, and we did
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our short skits, I've already hinted on a couple episodes
how just obviously no budget. It's just it was four
of us. We were just having a good time. But
when I was watching Blood Brothers, and it's more prevalent
when watching Bake Baby Jesus. But when they're shooting the
outside scenes, you can hear a helicopter go by, that's
just drowning out the dialogue. You can hear the crickets
(37:09):
and the bugs, like you know, you hear somebody like
a neighbor mowing or somebody saying, yeah, I'll see you tomorrow,
like you can hear a neighbor shouting. It's just picking
it up. And I'm just like, oh my god, this
is I don't know, I just feel so feel very
attached to it. And the fact that's only fifty minutes long.
I think that's why I liked Bake Baby Jesus so much,
is because it's over two hours of this. Yeah, and
(37:31):
it's maddening. You did point out the score, Yes, and
that is by Diana's sister. I don't know if it's
Tamara or Tamara, I don't know how it's pronounced. Who's
also the abortion victim? Yes, but this music is maddening.
It's like untuned, busted acoustic guitar strumming every so often,
but then it goes into like Rizzordolani's cannibal holocaust sounding
(37:56):
stuff with like a boom boom, and it's really effective,
Like that's presented during the coke sniffing, and then it
pops up again when Diana decapitates his mother. Who I mean,
I don't you know. It seems like they have a
great relationships relationship in all the interviews I've seen, but
his parents seem so cool and supportive of his artistic
(38:21):
career that it's cool to see his mom pop up
and play a victim.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, my mom like.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
She's very like she was very excited about the book,
and I was like, I don't think she's read the
Frankenstein entry yet. I think once she does, she'll feel.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
A little bit mortified.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
But yeah, I mean it's so cool, like his mom,
like you said she was the victim who got her
head decapitated when she's sticking her head out the window.
His sister, isn't it. His brother Matt is one of
the brothers in the film. And then there's just the
slew of other kids who are friends of his, and
you see that in the credits, like a bunch of
people with the same last name or you know, siblings friends,
(39:01):
and so it's just one of those like you know,
kids from the block getting together and making a movie and.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Oh my god, I just I love everything about it.
Five stars.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Five.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I didn't rate this one on I should. I should
I should go back and rate.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, it's five stars in my book. I don't know
when I gave it on letterbox. But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
It's perfect.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It doesn't it is. It's a perfect shot on video movie,
Like you can't do diy s ov any better. Yeah,
Like this is it.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Because it's like what I love is that it's not
it's not trying to be anything like, there's no and
I think, you know, when we talked to like Zach
when we were when they were here for the Bleeding
Skull Book episode and talking about like having really high
ambition but a really low budget, there's no ambition in this.
(39:52):
It's just get together, make a movie, have fun kind
of thing.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
And that's that.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I think that's equally as good as how having a
lot of ambition and you know, setting your sites really high,
but just you know, you can see that it's there here.
You don't have that, but it still works for me
on the same level.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, I agree hundred percent. That's yeah. I can rate this,
you know, five stars, and I can rate Persona five stars,
you know, so they're completely different movies. But yeah, it's
it's just on a level that you haven't seen before. Everyone,
It really is. It's fifty minutes of just again. I
don't know if it is because of a nostalgic you know,
(40:36):
like drawing the anarchy signs all over I did that
as a kid everywhere. Oh like and also and I
don't know, I haven't died. I did a deep dive
in Diana's interviews and a lot of his commentary stuff.
But there's stuff that I would do when we would record,
I would purposefully do, knowing what can I do as
(40:57):
the biggest shock value, And it's kind of like life ruining,
regretful stuff, but you do it because you just want
to do it, and you know there's stuff you know
I regret, like if we if I had Swatsticka's painted
all over garage doors or shirts that pop up in
Diana's stuff. But as a kid, it's all about rebellion.
It's all about doing shoot stupid shit. You're learning from
(41:19):
your actions. Yeah, but I could feel like I just
as I'm watching Blood Brothers and you know his other film,
it's I was like, man, that's that's totally what what
we did in the nineties, And I love it and
I'm glad this is out there in the world. I'm
glad recovering, and I think it's a perfect pick to
come back.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
To Thank you all right, double feature pick.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, so I obviously immediately thought Baked Baby.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Jesus, I think that works perfectly.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Love it to death.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
There are already together, they are, But.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I feel like watching Blood Brothers and baked baby Jesus,
that's three hours of a lot.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
That's that's that's an endurance test.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
It can cause violent behavior, turn you into a serial killer. Yeah,
so I didn't pick that, okay. And I also thought
of the baghead wearing Vorhees Friday the Thirteenth, Part two,
The Weapon of Choices, also that the kids have you
have little mini pitchforks and pick axes, hid and latter.
Since he did the dock and I know Diana saw
(42:18):
a lot of design work for brain damage and basket case,
I think those could be a nice fit to showcase
like the inspirations that Diana had as a teenager. But
I settled on the John Waters nineteen seventy horror comedy
Multiple Maniacs, starring the Beautiful Divine David Lockery. I mean
all the John Waters, Baltimore Dreamlanders, Mink Stole, Cookie mull Er,
(42:41):
Edith Macy, they're all in there. But it's about a
traveling side show called the Cavalcade of Perversion, and they're
pretending to be this haven for the ultimate collection of freaks,
including a man who eats his own puke and other
freaks of nature. And they're actually a band of these
thieves and kidnappers and murderers, but it has murdering of
(43:02):
all sorts with all different types of weapons. It has cannibalism,
it has raping, it has glue sniffing, it has a
reenactment of the Crucifixion of Jesus. Everything you'd want from
a John Waters and a Mike Diana film. Obviously bigger
in budget, well produced, it's still very much I feel
like an independent DIY filmmaking. And it's early Water, so
(43:23):
you're going to get that. The obscenity is strong, yeah
with this one. Also, like Bud Brothers, it has a
very scatters shot approach and it also closes with complete madness,
like the last ten minutes of Blood Brothers is my favorite.
I think I had read too like it kind of
turns ogroth. It just starts losing it because it's a
(43:44):
compilation of like previously recorded stuff from the Shed. But
in Multiple Maniacs, Divine is battling and getting raped by
a giant lobster. So it's complete nightmare inducing stuff. But
I love it, so I would do I would do
Multiple Maniacs and then Blood Brothers.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
It's a great well you could do any order. Yeah,
what's your double feature pick?
Speaker 5 (44:08):
So my double feature pick is another entry into the
Sweetest Taboo Hall of Fame. This is another director who
also agreed to be interviewed for the book, and a
movie that I love. It's another sov film from the eighties,
another perfect film, and that is Tim Ritter's Truth or
(44:30):
Dare a Critical Madness from nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
That's perfect.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Yeah. He has gotten back to me with already with
his interview question answers, and we did it via email
and he gave very long answers.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
So his section is going to.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Be four paget.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Yeah, I'm very excited for it. And you know what
I what I I've always loved his movies. You know
that movie Killing Spree, I even you know, even Sharks
of the Corn like I'll give it to him, like
you know, but when I was reading his answers, he
I mean, he's pulling like I didn't have, you know,
(45:11):
you pulling out Bergman on my Bengo card for this episode,
but you did. And you know, he's pulling out influences
like that, and he's talking about and but other things
than other people who are working in the same space
as him right now, and you can just you know,
you can really feel his genuine love, not just for
you know, the movies that he's making now, but he's
(45:32):
so appreciative of people who love his movies that when
he first made them, like like Truth or Darren Killing Spree,
so Tim, Yeah, Tim Urders, Truth or Daring Critical Madness
another perfect movie for me, Another perfect est so V movie.
I think, I don't care what order it goes in.
They're both great.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be that'd be a fun night.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Yeah, all right, next movie, next.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Pick, okay, next. I feel like this is kind of
a cop out, kind of a cheap pick, because I
had actually had this one for Geolo January, so I
already had some notes put together and we're easing our
way into this, so I you know, that's fair, I'm
gonna pick it.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I picked a fifty minute movie to ease it, so, like,
I mean, that's fine, And honestly, I was really looking
forward to.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
That movie and talking about it, so all good.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, okay, cool. So this Yeah, this was, I mean,
it's I thought I could save it for next January,
but I thought, like, it's a Spanish Giallo, so they
kind of they try to be giallo. Yeah, and I'm
just gonna pick it because you know, it's so goofy.
I haven't stopped thinking about it and I want to
talk about Okay. It's called Sexy Cat from nineteen seventy three,
(46:39):
directed by Julio Perez Tabernario, and I felt like it's
also it's kind of a nice segue from this Mike
Deanna Blood Brothers episode because it's somewhat leans into how
dangerous comic books can be. It's about a comic book
series about a character called Sexy Cat, which is being
made into a big feature film, and all of the
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people involved in the production, including the crew and even
the original comic book artists and creators, are being killed
off by a mysterious killer, which just might be the
real Sexy Cat. This is a pretty standard lance scheivy
pick Okay. It's very campy. It has unnecessary humor. That is,
(47:20):
it's certainly going to turn people off. It's not like
blood sucking Pharaohszberg. It's you.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
I you should know better by now.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Now. This one reminds it kind of reminds me of
blood Song that that episode we covered Frankie Avalon and
Donald Wilkes. It's a silly horror. It doesn't fully fit
into the horror genre, but Letterboxed has it listed, so
it's counted counts. I think it gets a bit talky.
It has the classic police pursuit procedural stuff, but it's
(47:49):
gonna be fun to dive into because of the cast
and the comic book aspect of things.
Speaker 6 (47:53):
An amazing poster it does.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
That's amazing, Like I want that poster.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
Yeah, under ninety minutes, thank you, Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
It'll it's you know, obviously we're not going to find
another pick that's that's fifty minutes or less. Probably you
never know. But this is only eighty minutes long. It
has only two hundred and thirteen views on Letterboxed. I
watched this close to six or seven months ago, and
only a dozen people have logged it since then. Okay,
so as we do. I want more eyes on this
goofy bastard. It's streaming on YouTube. There's a few versions
(48:24):
Spanish with I think subtitles, and one in an English dub.
I actually had fun with the English dub.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
It's not that bad, okay, but both the same length, though.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Both both exactly the same length. I think it's like
one twenty in a couple of seconds. Yeah, so it's
it's good. It should be fun, all right, looking forward
to it?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
H what do I do?
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Here? Are are ending? Oh?
Speaker 6 (48:50):
Fuck?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Are tags? I don't hand a minute?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
All right?
Speaker 5 (48:54):
If you're not already, you can follow us on where
are we? Where are we?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Insta?
Speaker 6 (49:02):
I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Are you still on a Facebook?
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (49:04):
Yeah, the Facebook thing is there.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
We're gone off Twitter.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Not on Twitter any or at whatever people are calling
it now? Uh, not on TikTok to any of them?
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Do TikTok TikTok? Did we ever have TikTok? No?
Speaker 5 (49:17):
I'm trying to think because I had TikTok for a
minute because of the job interview and that brain rot
no more. And yeah, you can listen to our episodes
wherever you're listening to it now, somewhere.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
At Unsung Horse Unsung Horse cut.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Yeah, Hello, where am I?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I'm on?
Speaker 5 (49:38):
I'm on Instagram and I think that's it. In Letterbox
Jesus at hex Massacre.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I'm on Letterbox and Instagram at lshiby. Also if
anybody listens to use to Spotify, I created a playlist
of every Unsung Horrors. Uh song that we've closed out episodes.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
That's right. You put that in the A discord.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
If anyone's interested in like this eclectic, very eclectic playlist
of tunes. It was fun putting it together. I mean
I've made I'm making the move to Apple Music, but
I haven't because of the playlist stuff that I have.
But show notes, Yeah, it's fun. I listened to it.
I listened to it like when I on the plane,
when I've been taking flights. I'm like, and it's cool
because I they're all tied. There's reasons we pick all
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our songs. So I just think of the episode they're recording,
the actual the notes and all the you know, the
back end, like preparing for that episode. It just brings
back a lot of nostalgica. Some of the songs I
have to skip though, because they're just bad, mostly mine.
I love chocolate Cake coup. There's a tractors. I just
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you should probably start picking all these songs.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
No, I haven't even picked the one for brothers.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Love chocolate cake. We didn't love chocolate chocli.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
I'm glad you got this singing and for this episode.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
Thanks for listening to everyone, We'll see you back soon.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to Unsung Horrors.
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With LUNs.
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And Denka.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Leave all your sanity behind. It can't help you now.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcast where
we discuss underseen horror films, specifically those which have fewer
than one thousand views on letterboxed.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
I'm Erica and I'm Lance Who.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I don't know who this person is sitting next
to me. I don't think I've Oh wait, I have.
I've met you before.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's been a while.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
I did not miss that.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I missed you very much.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I missed you very much as well. It's been a
rough six months. Yeah, still recovering, but just really needed
to come back and do what I love. Talk to
my friend about underseeing horror movies. Listen to his terrible puns,
Listen to his dulcet voice of when he sings.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I can't think of a tune. I'm just getting emotionally,
got nothing to sing. Yeah, No, it's it's a necessary break,
a good hiatus. I think it's helped in a lot
of aspects, but I'm very happy to be back. I've
missed you. I missed all this, missed the listeners. Yes,
I mean some of the comments, the positive comments when
(01:49):
we announced we were coming back was very very sweet,
very touching, and I'm not gonna lie. Whenever we record.
In the back of my mind, I'm always thinking of
the Discord channel and everybody who's active there. So really
appreciate everybody that you know has stuck with us.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Yeah, thank you for your patience, and just want to
encourage anybody who is having a rough time that it's
okay to take a break. Yes, whatever you love is
still going to be there when you're ready. I'm not ready, actually.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, just if you take a break, you're going to
come back and feel rusty. I feel like these are
going to be the next two episodes will be like
dress rehearsals.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yes, if you've heard our first couple episodes, it's going
to be like that. So sorry, in advance, I will
do my best in the editing room.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Oh yeah, I could luck with this episode. Like, I'm
sorry for all the mistakes I'll be making that you
have to cut out.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
That's all right, Well, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Just don't move around too much because that chair is squeaky. Yeah, okay,
So I wanted to come back with what I think
is an absolute banger, and not just the movie itself.
I also wanted something very short, which this is.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's under an hour, yeah, fifteen minutes. I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
But there's a lot to talk about with the person
who made this film, and I think that, especially with
the environment that we're in and talking about censorship, I
think it's a very sort of timely movie to talk about.
So I'm very excited to talk about Blood Brothers from
nineteen eighty nine. This is available right now to watch
(03:26):
on Archive and currently has three hundred and forty four
views on letterboxed. So I am not going to give
a film summary on this because A there really isn't
a narrative to follow here, and B I think you
just have to know who Mike Diana is for this.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
So for reference, the letterbox.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Synopsis says, quote, in nineteen eighty six, as a teen,
Mike Diana bought a video camera and, using his younger
brother and sister as actors, made a gore film inspired
by the horror videos he was fan of unquote. So
if someone came across that and didn't know who Diana is,
they would probably be confused, Like just the way that
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the Letterbox synopsis is present it. We're going to spend
a lot of time talking about who Mike Diana is
to give context for the Letterbox synopsis itself, and then
we'll talk about the movie itself. But I mentioned this
film is available to watch on archive. It is lumped
together with one of his other movies, and that's Baked
(04:32):
Baby Jesus, which Lance, I saw you watch that on Easter.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I did, and I recommend any type of holy religious
stay to pop this on. It was such a blast.
I loved that movie so much. I love Blood Brothers,
which we'll get into, but yeah, Bake Baby Jesus is
over two hours long. Yes, it's like a compilation of
a lot of his previous films, kind of like what
he did in Blood Brothers. I will talk about. But
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it's just it has a narrative and I think he
can interpret it. You know, a lot of people have
different interpretations, but I think it does have a clear
narrative and it's I loved it so much, especially on
the Holy Day of Eastern.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I do love the actual title of Baked Baby Jesus.
It is not lying there is an actual baked baby
because this is in this movie.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
They prep it. It's the Last Summer at the Last Supper. Well,
it's Baked Baby Jesus colin the Second Coming.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
That's right to you. Mm.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And I love the credits that he does in the movies.
He spray paints them on the wall. It's just original stuff,
you know, from the early nineties. But yeah, yeah, there's
literally a baked Baby Jesus. I think it's the same doll.
It's in Blood Brothers too, yes, in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, he's also now he's not listed as director on Letterboxed,
but the credits on Affliction from nineteen ninety six list
him and Mark Heshnar as co compiler. So if you
actually watch it, you'll see his name and Mark at
the end as co compilers.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
That one I watched on Noodle and it's on there
and nowhere else for a reason. Hardcore sex, nudity, all
all the things are on there, So watch it if
you want. I encourage you know, we're sex positive here,
so I would encourage folks to check that out. Make
sure you have an ad blocker though.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, yeah, that's it's always fun to watch stuff on Noodle.
I'm just like okay, and then the background there's.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Like just like yeah, it's like oh wow, okay, that's
that's all right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
I get the ad blocker for Noodle. I mean you
should have one anyway, But.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Sometimes I just shut it off though, because I it's
an experience with with with the ads popping up.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Okay, okay, So again, before we get into Blood Brothers itself,
I think a good introduction to Diana for anyone who
is unfamiliar with him, or maybe you are familiar with
him and you just haven't seen this before. Frank Henon
Lawd's twenty eighteen documentary called Boiled Angels the Trial of
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Mike Diana, you know, it gave me a lot of
context about the trial itself, Like I had heard about
it years ago, and I want to say I either
heard about it through Henry Rowlins or Jello Biofra spoken
word like just mentioned in passing and I remembered like,
oh wow, like some a comic book artist actually got
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convicted of obscenity.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Which yeah, charged and convicted. It was like completely never
I mean never done before. I mean it's just kind
of mind blowing. But I do have to point out
that Jello Biafra does narrate the film, which is a
genius move.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Oh absolutely, Like I will listen to Jello Biopra like anything.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I love him. But yeah, so good tie in there.
So it probably was.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Jello that I've first heard about it. Now that that
makes sense, so I think all so for readers. Another
great resource besides You Know the documentary, besides Diana's work itself,
are two interviews on Diabolique's site by our friend of
the show, Clon Waldrip. I will link those in show
notes along with Mike Diana's website so that people can
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read more from him directly. Great interviews from Clon. Everyone
should check those out if you haven't already. I know
he linked him in our discord as well, so some
folks might have checked those out.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I mentioned already.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
You Know. So the very short version of You Know
Mike Diana's biography is that he is the first and
only artist to be convicted, not just arrested or charged,
but convicted of obscenity for the comics that he wrote
and drew, specifically two issues of Boiled Angels issues seven
(08:51):
and eight, so hence the title of hen and Latter's documentary.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Now, he did not go to prison.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I think he went for just like a few days
during the trial or right after the but he got
three years probation and he was not allowed to draw
anything in his own home that might be considered obscene,
even for private use. This all came after he was
suspected of being the Gainesville Ripper a few years earlier.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, yeah, and he was. He was forced to do
a psychiatric evaluation. You know, he had to pay out
of pocket. But yeah, the completely like unprecedented stuff was you,
as an artist, are not allowed to draw for three years,
which is just unheard of. Yeah, I did some researchers
to see if you know, anything like that has ever
been you know, just passed down for judgment in a trial.
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And you know, there's other performance artists that have been
charged for obscenity, like Lenny Bruce and Larry Flynt. George
Carlin was arrested or I think he was arrested, but
none of them were charged or none of them were convicted.
But Lenny Bruce in nineteen sixty one, he was arrested
for obscenity when he used the word cocksucker in a
stand up and he also used the schmuck, which is
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a Yiddish word that means penis apparently, so he was arrested.
And it's similar to what the judge did with Diana.
He was told that he can't say anything obscene during
his shows, and Bruce is like, well, what do you
consider to be obscenity? And he said, just any inappropriate words,
nothing inappropriate, okay.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
So that's very thank you for the clear direction exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So he would, you know, basically his stand up became
talking about the trial, but every stand up he did
after that, cops from the city or wherever he was
performing would have to post up in the back of
the audience and stuff. So yeah, it's crazy how you
tell somebody that you can never drag in, especially when
you're that young.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
And I know. Yeah, okay, So Diana we mentioned was convicted. Now.
I think what's significant is that it was in a
small court system in Florida, So I don't think anything
like this would have happened in like, you know, California
or New York. I think it was because it was
in this like small town Florida where all of this
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was discovered and the charges were brought against him. I
don't want to get too deep into the documentary because
I think everyone should should watch it. I think it's
getting a Blu Ray release soon, But I do want
to kind of talk about, well, how does someone get
convicted of obscenity? And so the basis for Diana's conviction
was the Miller test, and this was the legal standard
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for obscenity in the US, established by the Supreme Court
in nineteen seventy three. No, it's a three pronged test
used to determine whether something is legally obscene and therefore
not protected by the First Amendment. Now, the content in
question must meet all three of the following, not just
one or two of these. So there's prurient interest, which
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means whether the average person applying contemporary communities, and that
word community is key, would find the work taken as
a whole, appeals to the perient interest. So translation, would
a normal person in that community think that the material
is meant to turn you on sexually in a grosser
exploitative way. So again that community standards is the key
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point there for him getting convicted, because what is considered
obscene in Largo, Florida, is not going to be considered
obscene in Manhattan or Venice Beach, California. The second prong
is patently offensive whether the work depicts or describes in
a patently offensive way sexual conduct specifically defined by the
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applicable state law. Again vague translation. Does a material clearly
cross a line in how it shows sex, nudity, or
other stuff spelled out in the state's obscenity laws. It
can't just be racy. It has to be blatantly offensive
by legal definition. And even then we're still getting into
really like vague, like.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Gray or subjective?
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Is everything subjective here? And then the third prong was.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
That it lacks serious value. Whether the work taken as
a whole lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Translation Is there any redeeming value if it has serious
artistic or political meaning, even to one expert, it's likely protected.
Now this part is judged by national standards, not local ones.
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So according to the Largo, Florida court system, Mike Diana's
work hit all of those three prongs, and so he
was convicted. Now we're talking about boiled angels. Lance, I
see you've got some stuff over there.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, I ordered his Everybody should go to Mike Diana's website.
It's Mike Diana Comics with comics spelled co m i
X dot com, Lincoln Lincoln, show notes, linking, show notes. Yeah,
one hundred percent, and I picked up. He has a
Boiled Angel Lives box set which he screen prints a
beautiful image on the box itself, signs and numbers it.
(14:11):
All eight issues of Boiled Angel are in here. I'm
gonna do a show intell, but the show is only
for Erica. Sorry, guys. I did post pictures of this
on Instagram if anybody wants to see it, but we
could post it too. He did a little nice little
drawing on a thank you note, which is only for me.
I didn't put that on Instagram. A couple stickers, but yeah,
all eight of the issues he did from I believe
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nineteen eighty nine to ninety one. I think he basically
he doesn't do a lot of films anymore or any
because doing comics is pretty much a one person job.
You don't have to get a group of friends to
be involved. It's obviously a lot more time and where
I think I read an interview he could just sit
down and do comics all day. And yeah, you know,
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he sees the actual outcome immediately. But yeah, all these
boiled angels I kind of went through. I don't know,
I kind of almost killed myself in this. Like I
read issue one when I got the box immediately, you know,
and looked through all of them. But then I read
back to back issues two through six, and I have
(15:14):
to say, I hope nobody from the government's listening because
I went on a killing spree. I wanted to kill
children immediately after reading these. No I joke. But like
all the contributors that he gets involved in each of
these issues, his art even an issue one here he
calls out Blood Brothers, which I know you didn't give
a summary, but he gives his own summary in this issue.
(15:35):
Please do so let me read this. So the first
issue is really good because his editorials is quite long
compared to the other issues, because it's the introduction to
this new zine he was creating. But he says, Okay,
I just finished two short films I've been working on,
Blood Brothers and Sleazy Love. I did them on almost
a zero dollar budget, So they do have their faults.
(15:58):
They dragging parts. It beats watching the boring six o'clock news.
If you're interested in owning a copy, and send five
dollars to me and the tape will be on its way.
Let me give you an idea of what the films
are about. Blood Brothers is about two fourteen year old
punks that go around murdering average citizens, snorty nose candy,
giving free abortions, and one even turns into Jesus Christ.
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And then Sleazy Loves about a fourteen year old kid
that likes to spit in his pet dog's mouth and
eat trick cereal in the name of God. All these
scenes are in Baked Baby Jesus. They end up being
in that movie which Abby already said I love. It's
two hours of greatness. Then he meets a dead girl
and falls in love with her, and they go to
the park and eat hostess fruit pies and pet gators
and live happily ever after until the young boy finds
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it she is a heat. But he's said. The two
films are recorded on one tape. It's about an hour
and thirty minutes avail long VHS. Only you know send
five dollars today too, So yeah, there's his summary of
Blood Brothers, which I feels accurate. One turns into Jesus Christ,
which we're going to talk about. But look at these
like this is just the best. Yeah, most of the
issue one is Mike Diana. Then he starts getting heavily
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and a lot of people start contributing. I want to say, like,
I want to even say that issues six, seven, and eight,
which really got him into the trip into most of
the trouble with the trial. Most of them were from
other contributors, but they just focused in on him because
his address was the only one that's kind of posted
in there. But everybody should look into this. It's it
can't be a little pricey, but I think it's one
hundred percent worthy and worth it. It's you can get
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each issue by itself if you don't want to buy
a box set. I've already picked up and ordered a
few other things, like more recent comments in his teas.
I love this Spoiled Angel lives. Yeah, that's the best.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I'm going to invest in there as soon as I can.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Leave these here if you want to read that, if
you want to read through them, I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
I need to give myself a goal to get a
job so that I can buy the thing.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So I just going to hang this carrot over here.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Oh yeah, hang the carrot.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Hang the carrot, Erica, get your lazy ass back to work.
Oh God. So I think something from Clon's interview with
Diana that I thought was fascinating was that Diana said
that the undercover officer when he ordered the Boiled Angels,
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he said, I had advertised Blood Brothers and Bake Baby
Jesus videos and Boiled Angels number six. It sounds like
he's all he's advertising them in all of them. He
ordered the videos, he and he ordered Boiled Angels. Eventually,
when I got my lawyer, I saw the paperwork and
it said something along the lines of quote, even though
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Blood Brothers and Bake Baby Jesus are in bad taste,
there's nothing that breaks the obscenity law within the videos unquote.
I always wondered what kind of screening room did they have?
Did they watch the whole thing beginning to end?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I have that exact quote pulled from that interview. Yeah,
I love that whole segment. Just envisioning these cops that
are watching and how they can different differentiate and deem
Baked Baby Jesus not offensive, but these comics that I've
read through it doesn't make sense. Yeah, And I don't
know if it's because it's printed and can be passed
around easily, Like I don't know what the reasoning is. Yeah,
(19:14):
because there's some I mean, Baked Baby Jesus is.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
It's on another level.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah. I mean a boy wakes up pisses on a
crucifix in the toilet, which is like it's like a
morning ritual. It's like a power move of like you
wake up and brush your teeth. This kid pisses on
a crucifix and then he gives birth to baby Jesus
and they eat moon pies and Jesus like it.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
The dog eats out of the baked Baby Jesus like,
you know, good girl. But yeah, it's it's on another level.
And I say that because so when I first watched
Blood Brothers, I was like, oh my god, it's just
like a cornucopia of dead children all over the place.
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I was like, this is fantastic, this is amazing. And
then getting further into it, learning about Diana, learning more
about like boiled angels and everything all the content that's
within there and bath baby, Jesus, all these things. I
was like, you know what, Okay, So side note, Here's
what I've been doing in all my time off since
(20:21):
I got laid off, is I've a been looking for
a job be working on Sweetest Taboo Volume two.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Now what when I realized when I came across this
and I finally I finally watched it, was there needs
to be a hall of Fame in Sweetest Taboo. And
Mike Diana is inducted into the Sweetest.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Taboo is the first inductee.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
He is the first. There is another deal and that's
that's part of my double feature pick. So we will
get to that. But yeah, he I emailed Mike Diana.
I reached out and I said, would you be willing
to do an interview for the book? And he agreed
and he is also going to be doing commission art
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piece for it as well. So I'm given our listeners
like a sneak peek at like what's coming for volume two.
I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I did not get his answers back for the interview
yet for this, which is fine. You guys can wait
for the book.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You have to buy the book, So I don't have
any information directly from him about it, but I think
there's a lot of stuff out there already from Klon's interviews,
from you know, from just having the copies of Boiled Angels,
We've got plenty of information about Diana. But really, Blood
Brothers is just it's on another level. Diana is on
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another level. He is so soft spoken and smart and
genuine in everything that I've heard him speak in and
I think that's I think that's what puts a lot
of people off about his artwork, at least to people
who were offended by it, is because they'll hear him
speak and they'll think these things don't match up. There
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must be something wrong with.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Him, right.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
And one of the things Hennen Lauter said in Klon's
interview about Diana's work was that all of his art
is about victimization in some way, and.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I think that's true.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I think there's a lot that people who've been victims
can get from from his work, and I think that's
aside from the content itself.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I think that's.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
What scares a lot of people, is being confronted with victimization.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, I agree with that, because he Yeah, he presents
himself and his work in such a calm and polite manner,
and you know, there again, we don't want to spoil you.
Everybody should watch this documentary that Hen and latter put out.
But some of the people that did confront him, a
lot of religious people, they were able to actually contact
them afterwards, and some of them were a bit apologetic
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about they how they interpreted him as a person, which
was really interested to see. But going back to Bake
Baby Jesus, I feel like, I don't know, I feel
like Baby Jesus helps establish why Mike Diana might do
a lot of his art because it focuses it on
a lot of the protests that happen in the area
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concerning an abortion and how violent pro life people can
be and pro choice people can be. He records great
long segments of the six o'clock News which he points
out and boiled Angel's issue one where all it is
is about serial killing and people killing children and it's
in real life, and this is all real life, and
you know a lot of overdubbed stuff. Also on Big
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Baby Jesus, there's like a wonderful random voiceover during one
of the scenes that says, like watch Uncle Buck, it's
the best Thanksgiving. It's obviously it's chaos, but he hits
on a lot of key points that basically changes how
young children can they form their you know, their their
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ideas and their interpretations on just life and human humankind.
And I feel like, bake baby Jesus like that to me,
that's kind of the narrative that it's just driving home
like what people are putting out, what adults are putting
out in the world and sharing with the world isn't
necessarily news, but it's almost a way to scare you
to death, to where it's same with religion. Yeah, it's
(24:24):
just it's it's there to almost to scare you to live,
like and he's he's drawing these funny versions of that
that are completely off the wall, but they do have
a real connotation.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Like I don't Yeah, I mean, there's a hypocrisy in
that that he's pointing out by having that long loop
of the news, like, look at all the violence that
is a already happening in the world. This is real
versus what I'm drawing, what I'm filming with my friends
with fake blood. Right, you know, there's a hypocrisy in
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the people who are focusing on what we're putting on
the news and what we're prioritizing to share with other people,
and then him in turn being convicted for having something
that they deem offensive. That is fake, that's not real.
I mean that really resonated with me. I'm not saying
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like what I've done is anywhere near what Diana has done,
but putting together a book about dead kids in movies, yes,
is not in good tea.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
If you had done this in nineteen eighty nine, you
you would probably be on trial or something like somebody
would want so many people would be after you.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Toby would come to my mind defense, he would he
would get on the stand and now.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I can see that he's in a little suit.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
High on little glasses.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
But yeah, this whole, it's it's it's a subject of that.
It's what's happening at the time. You know, the eighty
nine and you know there's the whole satanic panic that's
going on, the whole parental advisory explicit content is happening
during this time. Uh, you know, the whole When I
was a young kid, there was a motto that's Tipper
Gore is a whore. Yep. And because she had what
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I had read the stories is she had purchased Prince's
Purple Rain and she listened to the song Darling Nikki,
which is obviously an amazing song, yeah, but very sexual
about a sex fiend. So she thought, well, my kid
can't be listening to this. Are other kids listening to this?
So they just stuck this parental advisory content sticker all
(26:34):
over everything, theticker, the tipper sticker. Yeah, and I remember
very VIVIDI like some of the albums I had. I
had Anthrax, Attack of the Killer Bees, of course, Two
Live Crew is when I also had an oversized, like
white T shirt that had the parental advisory sticker on it,
and where like you check me out. Yeah, I had
my fucking tight rolled Stonemash jeans. I was ready to go.
(26:58):
I had the I mean, that's what I love about
Blood Brothers and all these Mike Diana films too, is
that is a mirror image of me at that age. Well,
I was talking to my friend about MTV. I think
we were talking about this vjays, Like he didn't know
who Adam Curry was, and I was like explaining to
what Adam Curry was and Ricky Rackman and Duff and
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Kennedy and all these personalities. And then he said he
didn't know who these people were. And I was like,
did you even have MTV growing up? And he was
from Longview, Texas and he said no, actually the city
banned MTV from my city, from from our county or whatever.
And I was like, are you who did this? And
he said it was a church group and I looked
it up and sure as hell, in nineteen ninety one,
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there was a New York Times article like from Tyler,
Texas where they banned MTV this religious group from you know,
from circulation and from being like stations couldn't pick it
up in their area.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Fuck.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
And I was like, dude, so you you don't know
who these people are.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Do you want to feel really old for a second.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I mean, yes, Kurtloader is eighty years old.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I saw that. That's actually what brought up the entire conversation.
He sent that to me and he's I don't think
this is real, and I was like, I looked it up.
I was like, well, Kurt Loader was old.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
When we were.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Watching, we were getting our news from Kurtlader.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So yeah, like when Kobaine killed himself, like you know,
breaking news, the MTV break.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Tabathasauran she was the other one. All right, we're dating ourselves?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Are young? Do we have young listeners?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Adam Curry is like one of the biggest, like dating
like that dude with the feathered hair and yeah, yeah,
I miss I'm missing TV the way it was back
in my day. We would they'd play music. It's not
Road Rule, Real World Challenge.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Is MTV even Yeah, it's still it's still Is it
all just reality shows?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Then? I don't know. I would think as Sarah, she's
probably at home watching it right now. If she's watching it,
I can answer, yes, it is reality show.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
All right?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Did now did Sarah watch Blood.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Brothers with you? Oh? No, Okay, I think no. That's
the thing too. With the hiatus to get back to
our break, I feel like I should have been just
charging through and watching a bunch of movies. My movie
intake is just completely dropped off same and I'll get
to like my pick too. It's like affecting like I need.
That's why I'm really excited about getting back into the podcast,
because it helped me watch the movies that I love.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, it's my movie watching has definitely dropped off. It's
May and I'm already thinking about, like, god damn, my
end of year episode picks are going to be horrendous.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
I have not watched anything.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It's gonna be like Blood Brothers, Bake Baby Jesus.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I mean that's fine, but like I always like to
shout out movies that we didn't talk about on the podcast.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
And so I will.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I am pledging to do better with my movie watching
for the rest of the year. It's really just fallen off.
It's been hard to motivate. Like anybody who suffers from anxiety,
you understand, like there you have good days, you have
bad days. I had a shit morning and then Lance
showed up and so now I feel better. But yeah,
it's I'm happy to get back to doing what we do,
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and that's talking about these movies.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
That more people need to see.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
You gave that quick you know synopsis or summary that
Diana had in his essay are in his Boiled Angels
number one. Yeah, it's a couple of kids, Blood Brothers.
I think they actually cut themselves and smear their own
blood together.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's what it looks like. If not, I'm very impressed
with that special effect.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Same.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Have you ever made a blood packed Oh yeah, okay, okay,
it's our age. I don't like now. I think it
would freak people out.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They I mean, they're they're already they don't even kids
nowadays don't even kiss. They're like ew swapspit gross like
they yeah, they don't mean.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I kind of get that now, the older I get.
I'm like, okay, maybe I am hit. I'm going to kiss.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
You don't like watching people kiss on in movies anyway,
it's like sloppy kids.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, it's like, yeah, well, actually, what movie was it
the sloppy kissing that I just love? I think it
was in hell Hole or something.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's like vic I don't know it. Yeah, I mean,
I'll watch it if it's just exaggerated and completely unnecessary. Yeah,
But if it's like a Leonardo DiCaprio ugly cry kiss,
I'm like, get out of here with that.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
So, I mean Blood Brothers itself, it's fifty minutes. It's
a couple of kids just going around killing other kids.
It has another movie that Diana shot called The Shed
just like kind of lumped into it. At the end,
which I love, and so here this is my experience
(31:45):
when I when I first watched it. I'm just going
to share, like this is my actual write up for
Sweetest Taboo. This is what's going to be in the
book about Blood Brothers.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Now, to be.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Fair, like this could change. So you're getting draft one
of this. Hang on, I gotta scroll down fifteen pages
because I got a lot of movies in there whom
the gods wished to destroy. Okay, Blood Brothers nineteen eighty nine,
The letterbox synopsis says it all. In nineteen eighty six,
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as a teen, Mike Diana bought a video camera and,
using his younger brother and sister as actors, made a
gore film inspired by the horror videos he was a
fan of running a mirror fifty minutes. Blood Brothers is
the rawst soov you will ever watch script What's that retakes?
Because everyone looks straight into the camera or smiled while
they were being dismembered or killed, shaw editing get fucked.
(32:45):
In other words, it's perfect. It's an It is unfiltered
teenaged angst, the kind that could only be captured with
a camcorder. Some handmade shirts and fake blood, paid for
by everyone's pooled allowance. What does it take to get
into the Hall of Fame in this book, an honor
that wasn't even bestowed upon John Carpenter's Assault on Pre
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six thirteen or Herming Yow's The Untold Story, A movie
that decided that killing just one kid and made it
into one chapter of this book wasn't good enough. Not
even killing two in different ways to make it into
the final chapter was good enough. It packs in more
child deaths and honorable mentions in fifty minutes than anything
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you've ever seen, and proves that kids are good at
two things, dying and making sov movies. Here's just some
of the reasons that Mike Diana's Blood Brothers is the
first inductee into the sweetest taboo Hall of Fame. A
baby doll covered in blood with a syringe sticking out
of its head, the greatest cocaine line cuts in cinema,
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maybe even real life. Severed heads and tongues flung about,
but not decapitated heads. No, those go straight into the
garbage can blood oas with real blood. I think they're
actually cut themselves. Killing your blood brother trust. No one
cranking out a score on a cranking out a score
on a cassio musical talent not required in fact, that
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would be frowned upon. Coat hanger abortion followed by sneaker
stomping the potato sized parasite aka fetus. Safety pins being
not so safe they weren't just for punk fashion or
holding your clothes together. In the eighties, stigmata, multiple strangulations, baghead,
Jason Vorhees, buried, burned alive, glue huffing fever. Dream finale
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with a kid thrown in a dryer, another with a
hammer in her skull, another who has a television dropped
on his head and lives only to drop it on
another kid's head, and a kid who is lawnmowered to death.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Credits on yellow.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Sticky notes made in Florida.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Obviously.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Brilliant. Love it you? Just yeah. Usually we go over
these episodes, like what are your favorite favorite moments you've listened?
Speaker 6 (34:59):
I can't pick either, not just want.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I mean maybe the kid in the dryer, because I
always love a good appliance death.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, you got the twenty four inch lines of cocaine
that's stacked three inches high that these kids are doing. Yes,
you got there's tons of organ licking going on in
this movie, which you have kids, you know, disemboweling other
kids and removing what looks to be like three hearts
from their stomach licking. There's so much. Yeah, it's fifty
(35:27):
minutes of the best. Like this is like the best
shot on video. Yeah, that was a great write up.
I don't know if there needs to be edits to that.
I'll just point that out now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I mean, I'll read it again in two years before
we go to print, and then you know.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Then decide.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
But yeah, it's just I say it's the rawest sov
because it's you know, unfiltered, It's it's exactly your You
feel like you were there. I know you probably it
resonates with you because you did this exact thing when
you were a kid with your friends, making your own
movies with your own camera.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Like these are the kinds of things.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
That I love and like that make me feel nostalgic,
Like I don't like, Yeah, sure I love Friday the
Thirteenth movies too, but I don't feel like genuine nostalgia
like I do with something like this.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
This makes you feel like yeah, because you can see
the inspirations you mentioned Baghead Bohies you can and even
the TV that could be pooled from like Elm Street.
Speaker 9 (36:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, but yeah, this makes you feel like maybe it's
again us aging ourselves, But it makes me feel like
I'm there, like I could have I'm not like this
is no shade, like I could have made something like
this as a kid. Yeah, and it's just that's what's
so appealing about it. But yeah, when we did our
c double TV, our Captain Trips television, and we did
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our short skits, I've already hinted on a couple episodes
how just obviously no budget. It's just it was four
of us. We were just having a good time. But
when I was watching Blood Brothers, and it's more prevalent
when watching Bake Baby Jesus. But when they're shooting the
outside scenes, you can hear a helicopter go by, that's
just drowning out the dialogue. You can hear the crickets
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and the bugs, like you know, you hear somebody like
a neighbor mowing or somebody saying, yeah, I'll see you tomorrow,
like you can hear a neighbor shouting. It's just picking
it up. And I'm just like, oh my god, this
is I don't know, I just feel so feel very
attached to it. And the fact that's only fifty minutes long.
I think that's why I liked Bake Baby Jesus so much,
is because it's over two hours of this. Yeah, and
(37:31):
it's maddening. You did point out the score, Yes, and
that is by Diana's sister. I don't know if it's
Tamara or Tamara, I don't know how it's pronounced. Who's
also the abortion victim? Yes, but this music is maddening.
It's like untuned, busted acoustic guitar strumming every so often,
but then it goes into like Rizzordolani's cannibal holocaust sounding
(37:56):
stuff with like a boom boom, and it's really effective,
Like that's presented during the coke sniffing, and then it
pops up again when Diana decapitates his mother. Who I mean,
I don't you know. It seems like they have a
great relationships relationship in all the interviews I've seen, but
his parents seem so cool and supportive of his artistic
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career that it's cool to see his mom pop up
and play a victim.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, my mom like.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
She's very like she was very excited about the book,
and I was like, I don't think she's read the
Frankenstein entry yet. I think once she does, she'll feel.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
A little bit mortified.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
But yeah, I mean it's so cool, like his mom,
like you said she was the victim who got her
head decapitated when she's sticking her head out the window.
His sister, isn't it. His brother Matt is one of
the brothers in the film. And then there's just the
slew of other kids who are friends of his, and
you see that in the credits, like a bunch of
people with the same last name or you know, siblings friends,
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and so it's just one of those like you know,
kids from the block getting together and making a movie and.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Oh my god, I just I love everything about it.
Five stars.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Five.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I didn't rate this one on I should. I should
I should go back and rate.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Well, it's five stars in my book. I don't know
when I gave it on letterbox. But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
It's perfect.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It doesn't it is. It's a perfect shot on video movie,
Like you can't do diy s ov any better. Yeah,
Like this is it.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Because it's like what I love is that it's not
it's not trying to be anything like, there's no and
I think, you know, when we talked to like Zach
when we were when they were here for the Bleeding
Skull Book episode and talking about like having really high
ambition but a really low budget, there's no ambition in this.
(39:52):
It's just get together, make a movie, have fun kind
of thing.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
And that's that.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
I think that's equally as good as how having a
lot of ambition and you know, setting your sites really high,
but just you know, you can see that it's there here.
You don't have that, but it still works for me
on the same level.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, I agree hundred percent. That's yeah. I can rate this,
you know, five stars, and I can rate Persona five stars,
you know, so they're completely different movies. But yeah, it's
it's just on a level that you haven't seen before. Everyone,
It really is. It's fifty minutes of just again. I
don't know if it is because of a nostalgic you know,
(40:36):
like drawing the anarchy signs all over I did that
as a kid everywhere. Oh like and also and I
don't know, I haven't died. I did a deep dive
in Diana's interviews and a lot of his commentary stuff.
But there's stuff that I would do when we would record,
I would purposefully do, knowing what can I do as
(40:57):
the biggest shock value, And it's kind of like life ruining,
regretful stuff, but you do it because you just want
to do it, and you know there's stuff you know
I regret, like if we if I had Swatsticka's painted
all over garage doors or shirts that pop up in
Diana's stuff. But as a kid, it's all about rebellion.
It's all about doing shoot stupid shit. You're learning from
(41:19):
your actions. Yeah, but I could feel like I just
as I'm watching Blood Brothers and you know his other film,
it's I was like, man, that's that's totally what what
we did in the nineties, And I love it and
I'm glad this is out there in the world. I'm
glad recovering, and I think it's a perfect pick to
come back.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
To Thank you all right, double feature pick.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, so I obviously immediately thought Baked Baby.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Jesus, I think that works perfectly.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Love it to death.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
There are already together, they are, But.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I feel like watching Blood Brothers and baked baby Jesus,
that's three hours of a lot.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
That's that's that's an endurance test.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
It can cause violent behavior, turn you into a serial killer. Yeah,
so I didn't pick that, okay. And I also thought
of the baghead wearing Vorhees Friday the Thirteenth, Part two,
The Weapon of Choices, also that the kids have you
have little mini pitchforks and pick axes, hid and latter.
Since he did the dock and I know Diana saw
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a lot of design work for brain damage and basket case,
I think those could be a nice fit to showcase
like the inspirations that Diana had as a teenager. But
I settled on the John Waters nineteen seventy horror comedy
Multiple Maniacs, starring the Beautiful Divine David Lockery. I mean
all the John Waters, Baltimore Dreamlanders, Mink Stole, Cookie mull Er,
(42:41):
Edith Macy, they're all in there. But it's about a
traveling side show called the Cavalcade of Perversion, and they're
pretending to be this haven for the ultimate collection of freaks,
including a man who eats his own puke and other
freaks of nature. And they're actually a band of these
thieves and kidnappers and murderers, but it has murdering of
(43:02):
all sorts with all different types of weapons. It has cannibalism,
it has raping, it has glue sniffing, it has a
reenactment of the Crucifixion of Jesus. Everything you'd want from
a John Waters and a Mike Diana film. Obviously bigger
in budget, well produced, it's still very much I feel
like an independent DIY filmmaking. And it's early Water, so
(43:23):
you're going to get that. The obscenity is strong, yeah
with this one. Also, like Bud Brothers, it has a
very scatters shot approach and it also closes with complete madness,
like the last ten minutes of Blood Brothers is my favorite.
I think I had read too like it kind of
turns ogroth. It just starts losing it because it's a
(43:44):
compilation of like previously recorded stuff from the Shed. But
in Multiple Maniacs, Divine is battling and getting raped by
a giant lobster. So it's complete nightmare inducing stuff. But
I love it, so I would do I would do
Multiple Maniacs and then Blood Brothers.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
It's a great well you could do any order. Yeah,
what's your double feature pick?
Speaker 5 (44:08):
So my double feature pick is another entry into the
Sweetest Taboo Hall of Fame. This is another director who
also agreed to be interviewed for the book, and a
movie that I love. It's another sov film from the eighties,
another perfect film, and that is Tim Ritter's Truth or
(44:30):
Dare a Critical Madness from nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
That's perfect.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
Yeah. He has gotten back to me with already with
his interview question answers, and we did it via email
and he gave very long answers.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
So his section is going to.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Be four paget.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Yeah, I'm very excited for it. And you know what
I what I I've always loved his movies. You know
that movie Killing Spree, I even you know, even Sharks
of the Corn like I'll give it to him, like
you know, but when I was reading his answers, he
I mean, he's pulling like I didn't have, you know,
(45:11):
you pulling out Bergman on my Bengo card for this episode,
but you did. And you know, he's pulling out influences
like that, and he's talking about and but other things
than other people who are working in the same space
as him right now, and you can just you know,
you can really feel his genuine love, not just for
you know, the movies that he's making now, but he's
(45:32):
so appreciative of people who love his movies that when
he first made them, like like Truth or Darren Killing Spree,
so Tim, Yeah, Tim Urders, Truth or Daring Critical Madness
another perfect movie for me, Another perfect est so V movie.
I think, I don't care what order it goes in.
They're both great.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be that'd be a fun night.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Yeah, all right, next movie, next.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Pick, okay, next. I feel like this is kind of
a cop out, kind of a cheap pick, because I
had actually had this one for Geolo January, so I
already had some notes put together and we're easing our
way into this, so I you know, that's fair, I'm
gonna pick it.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I picked a fifty minute movie to ease it, so, like,
I mean, that's fine, And honestly, I was really looking
forward to.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
That movie and talking about it, so all good.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, okay, cool. So this Yeah, this was, I mean,
it's I thought I could save it for next January,
but I thought, like, it's a Spanish Giallo, so they
kind of they try to be giallo. Yeah, and I'm
just gonna pick it because you know, it's so goofy.
I haven't stopped thinking about it and I want to
talk about Okay. It's called Sexy Cat from nineteen seventy three,
(46:39):
directed by Julio Perez Tabernario, and I felt like it's
also it's kind of a nice segue from this Mike
Deanna Blood Brothers episode because it's somewhat leans into how
dangerous comic books can be. It's about a comic book
series about a character called Sexy Cat, which is being
made into a big feature film, and all of the
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people involved in the production, including the crew and even
the original comic book artists and creators, are being killed
off by a mysterious killer, which just might be the
real Sexy Cat. This is a pretty standard lance scheivy
pick Okay. It's very campy. It has unnecessary humor. That is,
(47:20):
it's certainly going to turn people off. It's not like
blood sucking Pharaohszberg. It's you.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
I you should know better by now.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Now. This one reminds it kind of reminds me of
blood Song that that episode we covered Frankie Avalon and
Donald Wilkes. It's a silly horror. It doesn't fully fit
into the horror genre, but Letterboxed has it listed, so
it's counted counts. I think it gets a bit talky.
It has the classic police pursuit procedural stuff, but it's
(47:49):
gonna be fun to dive into because of the cast
and the comic book aspect of things.
Speaker 6 (47:53):
An amazing poster it does.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
That's amazing, Like I want that poster.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
Yeah, under ninety minutes, thank you, Yes.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
It'll it's you know, obviously we're not going to find
another pick that's that's fifty minutes or less. Probably you
never know. But this is only eighty minutes long. It
has only two hundred and thirteen views on Letterboxed. I
watched this close to six or seven months ago, and
only a dozen people have logged it since then. Okay,
so as we do. I want more eyes on this
goofy bastard. It's streaming on YouTube. There's a few versions
(48:24):
Spanish with I think subtitles, and one in an English dub.
I actually had fun with the English dub.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
It's not that bad, okay, but both the same length, though.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Both both exactly the same length. I think it's like
one twenty in a couple of seconds. Yeah, so it's
it's good. It should be fun, all right, looking forward
to it?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
H what do I do?
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Here? Are are ending? Oh?
Speaker 6 (48:50):
Fuck?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Are tags? I don't hand a minute?
Speaker 1 (48:54):
All right?
Speaker 5 (48:54):
If you're not already, you can follow us on where
are we? Where are we?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Insta?
Speaker 6 (49:02):
I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Are you still on a Facebook?
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (49:04):
Yeah, the Facebook thing is there.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
We're gone off Twitter.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Not on Twitter any or at whatever people are calling
it now? Uh, not on TikTok to any of them?
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Do TikTok TikTok? Did we ever have TikTok? No?
Speaker 5 (49:17):
I'm trying to think because I had TikTok for a
minute because of the job interview and that brain rot
no more. And yeah, you can listen to our episodes
wherever you're listening to it now, somewhere.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
At Unsung Horse Unsung Horse cut.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Yeah, Hello, where am I?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I'm on?
Speaker 5 (49:38):
I'm on Instagram and I think that's it. In Letterbox
Jesus at hex Massacre.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, I'm on Letterbox and Instagram at lshiby. Also if
anybody listens to use to Spotify, I created a playlist
of every Unsung Horrors. Uh song that we've closed out episodes.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
That's right. You put that in the A discord.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
If anyone's interested in like this eclectic, very eclectic playlist
of tunes. It was fun putting it together. I mean
I've made I'm making the move to Apple Music, but
I haven't because of the playlist stuff that I have.
But show notes, Yeah, it's fun. I listened to it.
I listened to it like when I on the plane,
when I've been taking flights. I'm like, and it's cool
because I they're all tied. There's reasons we pick all
(50:22):
our songs. So I just think of the episode they're recording,
the actual the notes and all the you know, the
back end, like preparing for that episode. It just brings
back a lot of nostalgica. Some of the songs I
have to skip though, because they're just bad, mostly mine.
I love chocolate Cake coup. There's a tractors. I just
(50:46):
you should probably start picking all these songs.
Speaker 5 (50:48):
No, I haven't even picked the one for brothers.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Love chocolate cake. We didn't love chocolate chocli.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
I'm glad you got this singing and for this episode.
Speaker 5 (51:00):
Thanks for listening to everyone, We'll see you back soon.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
For sexy can yes by your one thanks.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
If you take a walk through the garden of life,
what did you think you expect you would see just
like a merror reflecting the moves of your life and
in the reflection of book, just a receipt, a glimpse
of my father I see in a move he back
(51:30):
into me in a moment, the memories of the remade
and all the ms real wab that.
Speaker 10 (51:47):
Wabab and as you know, noll around that in the
space do you see me?
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Do you think we are?
Speaker 4 (52:02):
Love?
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Know if you're taking no look capital walk on afraid
out in the story when the bad is.
Speaker 4 (52:09):
A where where nots w.
Speaker 7 (52:25):
Listen?
Speaker 11 (52:42):
Are times when a fast of the world, that time
short of a soul, where you find im nos and
your fast?
Speaker 4 (52:56):
By what the answer love, Faddy.
Speaker 11 (53:02):
It's trying to win it down me what famdas.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
The birds not chuck no b's just do you do it?
Stip away like my were.
Speaker 7 (53:13):
Not why I'm not going? Where as.
Speaker 8 (53:43):
S S.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
S S.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
When you thought that refused our chance says and the
chance to make you.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Everything right you are made.
Speaker 9 (55:34):
And the same mistakes makes him terrifing a bad so
said when the head arrives on the edge to see
a crowd.
Speaker 7 (55:46):
A bk of or.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
Wist.
Speaker 12 (57:50):
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