Deranged (1987)

This week we're entering the house of a psychotic woman: Joyce (Veronica Hart) in Chuck Vincent's Deranged. We get into a large chunk of Vincent's mainstream filmography, share favorite films from Jamie Gillis's adult entries, and happily accept that our questions about the. events in the film will never be answered.
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Episode Transcript

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Prepare yourself for the terror the prisonof madness. We have a few inter
and none return. Welcome to UnsungHorrors with Lance and Denica. Leave all

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your sanity behind. It can't helpyou now. Hello, Hello, and
welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcast where we review and discuss
underseen horror films, specifically those withless than one thousand views on letterbox.
I'm Lance, I'm Erica, andfirst off, I want to thank everybody

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who wished Erica a happy happy birthday. Oh yeah, thanks last week?
How was it? Was it agreat one? I hope, Yeah,
it was good. Had dinner withsome friends and then had a few folks
over. You were in the middleof south By, so you know,
I couldn't extend an invite to youto come over for a movie night.
But we have like sort of aregular monthly movie thing. Amanda Reyes,

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you know, our guest for theTV TV movie episode that we did.
Like her husband collects sixteen millimeter films, mostly like cartoons and films and stuff
like that, as well as likeIvent Paychef who was our guest as well
for ogrof East part of it.So we do like this monthly thing,
and so they all came over.I made some food. I don't know.
I hope I didn't make other peoplesick, because one of the things

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that I had, like, Iwas fucking wrecked. The next year.
Yeah, it was bad, stupidAsian salad. Whatever. That's what I
get for eating cabbage. You shouldjust gotten takeout. It's your birthday.
You shouldn't have made stuff. Iknow, but I wanted what I wanted
and like very specific. Anyways,Fine, I know I shouldn't have hindsight,
I'm not doing that next year.The next day, though, John

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and I did my regular or southBy Fuck You Marathon and all of that,
and we got pizza, So noeffort there. Nice. It was
a lot of fun. Watched acouple of Mexican movies that were fun,
like a Blue Demon and the highlightthough, was a Bunta sub war movie
called Withered Tree, which I highlyrecommend to everyone. That's a good birthday

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this year. And speaking of Ivan, in his Bat City Cinema, you
caught a sixteen millimeter double feature hedid right, Yeah, last night he
did. He programmed The Undertaker andhis Pals and the Corpse Grinders, which
was a double feature back in theday, and so he sort of recreated
that and he even got certificates ofassurance printed out for the audience members.

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John dressed up as Doctor Gorilla andwas handing him out to everybody. And
it was a lot of fun.And I got to meet one of our
listeners, Jake, Hi, JakeJake, and so, yeah, it
was a lot of fun. Yeah. I was very sad I missed it,
but south I still kind of knockedbeyond my ass and I was prepping
for this wonderful Yes you're being agood podcast. I played hooky, I
went out and had fun and ignoredmy duties. And then but I woke

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up early and watched Warrior Queen Barbarian. Oh yeah, it was pants like
unhinged. I'm a drunk king.Yeah that's a good one. Yeah,
no, no, I really wishI went to that. Especially I would
have loved to see Ted bat Michaelsin sixteen milimeters. Yeah, it was
great. And then I also wantto share the weird Wednesday slash book release

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screening that you're doing with Alimo draftHouse. Yeah, give us some details.
So another former guest, Laired,was kind enough to reach out and
ask if I wanted to do ascreening in conjunction with the book. And
so it's going to be a mysteryscreening because technically we couldn't get a get
the rights to the movie that that'sgoing to be showing. But if you

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listen to our episode with Daniel Eckerrothand then you read the description of this
movie, you'll be able to figureout what it is. So but yeah,
so Austin folks, you know,check your weird Wednesday calendars. That's
going to be April seventeenth. Andit's going to be fun too because Charles
from Twitch to the Death Nerve isgoing to be here visiting that awesome,
so he'll be there as well.So you will finally get to find Charles.

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Yes, last time it was kindof pandemic days and I was still
hesitant on my venturing now and stuff. But no, yeah, I'm stoked
to meet. Say I'm going tobe with them or no not this time
now boys not out Yeah with you. Yeah, it's the same thing,
it is. I mean, we'reall everybody's bros, everybody's girls. It's
all the same. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, And for me, I

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just wanted to share quick South bySouthwest stuff. Please do. I didn't
see a whole lot of movies.I was working in the event for like
a full two months. Great opportunity. I had a lot of fun Negro
people. I'm mainly took in somedocumentaries. I'm just going to share some
of the ones I really like,like Secret All Apartment. This is a
Jesse Eisenberg produced production. Yeah,and this is probably the best thing that

(05:01):
I've seen where his name's where he'sinvolved in. Okay, he's not in
it, Okay, he just hewas in town though for his Sasquatch Sunset
movie. Oh is he in that? Yeah? But he's dressed up as
he had a big so then Okay, then I have to look at his
dump face. Yes, Sarah,she saw it and she said it was
very interesting. It's his Elner brothers, who I always liked their stuff,

(05:24):
David and Nathan. I like Damsel. I'm a big rPAT fan. That's
so. I've heard good things aboutit. But he was in town and
he was very approachable. He wasjust hanging out with everybody outside of the
draft house. Making him be abetter person, I know, right.
I was like, is he goingto use the words subjective because he always
uses the word subjective in every everysingle but Secret Mall Apartment was really great.

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It's about a group of this artcollective of about eight friends, eight
students who break into a mall inRhode Island and they build a mall an
apartment in it. Okay, theylive in there and off for about four
years. And you know, whenyou look at it and you read about
it, and the poster right now, I think is just kind of a
placeholder, but you kind of getthe sense that it's probably just watching a

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bunch of kids play video games allday and just party and stuff. But
this is they definitely have a message. They're very focused, they're very driven
and just creating art. It waspart of like a kind of a secret
project that they were doing, andyou know, it happened in the late
nineties through the you know, throughthe early two thousands, so like September
eleventh happened. So they actually gothrough this emotional kind of more focused on

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art mentality, which is very kindof inspiring. I really I think somebody
will pick it up for sure,if it hasn't already been, I recommend
it. Then I watched Grand TheftHamlet, which won the Best Award for
Best Documentary Feature, the Jury Awardfor south By, which was interesting because
it all takes place in Grand TheftAuto and it's about these you know,

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it was during the pandemic, soall these out of work actors kind of
I guess for three of them,and they got together and decided, let's
put Hamlet on all the acts ofHamlet within the game and invite people to
come and read the further parts andnew tryouts. And they filmed it all
in game. It was fun,But yeah, I didn't watch a whole
lot of movies. Ghost Light wasgood. Bob Travino likes it. I

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watched that one because that one wonthe Jury Award for Best Narrative Feature.
It's with John Leguizamo and Barbie Ferraraplays this most unrealistic, awkward tem It
was good. It was very youknow, obviously, it was pulling on
the heartstrings the entire time. Itfelt very forced, but it worked and
I liked it. That one willprobably definitely get a release. But yeah,

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the highlights of the festival was youknow, I was set up downtown
in the hotel I lived there foryou know, a couple of weeks and
I was able to stumble in andjust like some music clubs and stuff,
I never really participate in the musicaspect of the festival. I did in
my younger days. But I sawMagua play, which I had tickets to
see them, like in nineteen ninetynine, and then that's when there were

(08:05):
no tickets on the phone and Ilost my tickets and it was a sold
out show at Lezona Rosa. SoI'd never seen Maguai. They were here
for a documentary that was premiering aboutthem called This If the Stars Had a
Sound, which I didn't see.Sarah saw. She said it was fun,
but they put on like an hourand a half showcase official showcase.

(08:26):
It was I'm glad I brought earplugsbefore I went because it rattled my guts
it was so loud. Yeah,loved it. I saw a band from
Montreal called Zoo's z u Z,which I totally recommend. I saw them
twice. Actually, I liked themso much. The first night I saw
Pedal Steele Noah, who's that kidfrom Instagram? And it's him. I

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think it's his brother on bass andthey usually have like this dog propped up
in front of his settle, hissteel pedal guitar, and they pretty much
do covers like this is just likeKevin from The Cure and they just played
The Cure. And that's how hislive show was. Okay. It was
a lot of fun that was inlike this old cathedral downtown at Saint David's.

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It was fun. It was agood festival. I just had a
good time. I did nothing forthe festival there there. Well. I
poked my head into one thing becausewhere we went to dinner on Friday night,
Terror Vision, Oh actually set upand Gray Graveyard Records, Gray Face,
Gray Face Records. We're set upat a bar on East Austin,

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like really near to where we wentto go eat, and I was like,
poke our head in there. I'mgonna go say hi to Brad if
he's there. And I poked myhead and I didn't see him. I
don't know if he was there orif it was just Ryan, but yeah,
I didn't see him. So Ijust left because I was like,
there was music and I'm just I'msuch a grump about live music now.
I just I can't anymore if Idon't have earplugs and comfy shoes. I'm
like, no, yeah, yeah, no, yeah. I was definitely

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set up and in the in thecomfort level of because I'm all I did
was walk most the festival. Yeah, I do want to give a shout
out and I have a screener linkto send to you. Okay, it's
a midnight short film that although Iwasn't able to catch the midnight short screening,
I was able to watch one calledMake Me a Pizza, which was

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a total blast. I feel likeI saw your review for that. It
was just like five pizzas, fiveslices of Yes, very simple. But
one of the producers, Kara GraceMiller. It's either Kara or Kara.
I think it's Kara. Karen GraceMiller. She reached out to me hoping
that you and I could make thepremiere because she's her and some of the
filmmakers are fans of the podcast.Oh so yeah, Kara very awesome and

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I really wanted to make it.I'd try to, but she's like,
if you can't make it, I'dlove to send you guys a screener link
and advanced screener link, and Iwas like, heck, yeah. The
assistant director Sophie. I'm going toprobably butcher her last name, but Sophie
Somarov. She has other shorts thatare really great. They mentioned that they
have. What did she I'm goingto quote what she called it an absurdist

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midnight short where two people, throughsex become pizza. Helly, I mean,
isn't that the dream? It isthe dream? Seriously, I'm going
to reach nirvana. I want likethat. I want to be at pizza
level. Yeah, and as youwatch it, you want You're going to
want that more. It gets itis you can literally eat your partner and

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have your partner eat you, likeliterally, you know, slice yourself up.
It's great. I mean the involvedfilmmakers there, it's a woman led
team. It was shot on sixteenmilimeters ear yeah, in an eighties broadcast
camera and Los Angeles. These practicaleffects which we always applaud on this.
Yeah, is there like a pineapplekink or anything like that. No,

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no, don't spoil it. Yeah, I know, and this isn't really
a spoiler, but you know,focusing in on the practical effects because when
this was when she mentioned this tome, like oh, we did our
own practical effects. I was like, oh, Okay, this is I'm
even more excited. Yeah, youknow, based on the premise that you
already told me, But there isthis he doesn't really have a name,
but it's like this pizza star lordthat shows up and he is so captivating

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his appearances. It's really great.Definitely check it out when hopefully it becomes
available soon. Give them a followif you want at the Pizza movie on
all the socials if you're interested onlearningmore. But yeah, it's I was
excited that I got this message duringthe festival and I really tried to make
it but I was working during mostof both of the screenings of the Midnight
Shorts. But Kara, I lovedit, Sophie, great work. Looking

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forward to more stuff from you guys. Yeah, look forward to watching that.
Oh yeah, i'll send you thatlink. Sorry, yeah, after
your birthday present. Also, Iknow there's a tradition of giving you giving
gifts on our birthdays. Yours isin transit. Okay again, I was
well, NA just made it awkward, like I didn't. I wasn't like
sitting here like I didn't get meanything. What a dick? Well,
I see it on your notes.Where's my present? It's right there.

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Where's my birthday a Lance? It'scoming one of them's kind of a joke.
Here my gift every day? Lance. Actually this screener is the gift.
Okay, well that's very nice.Okay, Okay, let's get to
Derange. It currently has two hundredand fifty four views on letterboxed and I've

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been singing the praise of this filmfor a couple of years in a while.
Yeah, like I said when Iannounced it on the Demons on the
Island episode, Derange was my nineteeneighties pick for Horror Gives Back. It
also made my Blu Ray wish lista year or so ago, which we
covered on an episode. You hadn'twatched it yet? I had not,
and I finally gone around to it, and I guess I'm sort of spoiling

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something. But first time I watchedit, I was like, yeah,
I really like this three stars.And then like the quick rewatch this morning,
I was like, something three anda half. This is great.
That's the same for me. Ihad you know, i'd seen it.
I watched it years ago. Igave it three stars, and then I'd
been thinking about this movie for along time. I was excited to jump
into obviously Veronica heart Stuff, andbut Chuck Vincent, who I just kind

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of as soon as south By wasover and I was just working from home
this past week, I just destroyedhis filmography like it was, that's all
I see. Some of the comedieskind of bleed together. But but yeah,
I was very excited to pick this. Honestly, I kind of picked
it because I knew my I wasbusy with south By That's fair, and

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I was like, oh, it'san eighty minute movie, you know.
But holy shit, it was thewrong pick because when you start getting into
the cast and and Chuck Vincent films, it's a rabbit hole that I never
wanted to get out of. Iwas just I crawled in and I loved
it. Yeah, well, I'mgoing to give listeners a little like deep
insight into the podcast. The wholereason we have No Rules November is because
we're coming off of October and sowe need something that's easy to dive into.

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It's true, but at the sametime, no episode it does,
it becomes difficult. No Rules noVember, it becomes difficult to pick.
It does not necessssarily, I don'tthink necessarily to cover because it's a movie
that we know and love really wellalready. So then it's just a matter
of like what else do I wantto watch and supplement to this, versus
like what else do I need towatch when I'm like diving into something like

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really obscure and like a director oryou know, actor or actor is new
to us kind of thing. Soyeah, it's it's a good point.
Yeah, it was a bad callfor me to be like, yeah,
deranged, I'm not going to spendtoo much time on it because I blocked
out all my responsibilities this past weekstrictly watching Chuck Bencon movies. I didn't

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even get to go to the BatCity Cinema. That's okay, next time,
Okay. So yeah, like Isaid, Veronica Heart, her own
name is Jane Hamilton. I wasvery captivated with her the first time I
watched her in that movie we covered. This is a second Veronica Heart movie.
I didn't want to mention it,but I will. Blood sucking Pharaohs

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in Pittsburgh, moving on, right. Yeah, And if listeners aren't aware,
the cast and crew have deranged andessentially every Chuck Vincent movie are all
came from or continued to work inthe adult film industry, so director Chuck
Vincent. He began his career inadult films in the early seventies, drugging

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dozens of X rated movies in abouta ten year period, and it's obviously
during this time that he met andessentially recruited his team, his cast,
his crew members for future non hardcorefilms, which is deranged. Deranged is
considered in there, but he seemedto break the mold of the standard you
know, let's fuck for forty minutesadult film formula with a film he made

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called Roommates in nineteen eighty two,which starred Veronica Hart, Samantha Fox,
and Kelly Nichols. And I knowone of our listeners, Adam has praised
Roommates. He actually picked it asa double feature for Deranged. But Chuck
Fncent he was on to something whenhe made Roommates and how effectively dramatic and

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strong the female characters were. Hereleased two versions, both hard and soft,
edits that won several awards from theAFAA, the Adult Film Association of
America, including Best Picture, BestDirector, Best Actress for Veronica Hert,
Best Screenplay, and Best Cinematography,and his filmography kind of snowball from there
where he went from making strictly Xrated films to R rated films that reached

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a wider audience, even if itwas a lot, you know, kind
of like straight to video type stuff, you know, like his comedies and
stuff. But he admittedly made allhis money very lucrative from adult films,
and he was quoted as saying thatit was very lucky to make the jump
into more straight filmmaking, as mostdirectors of hardcore films aren't ever really given

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the opportunity, and some of thereasons being that they just don't want to
deal with the negative reaction of beingassociated or coming from the adult film industry
because people are assholes and their perspectiveof that. But Chuck Vincent was very
different. He and his team thatwere very open about the industry they came
from. In an interview from himin nineteen eighty eight, Vincent stated,

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I cast the best people I know, and it so happens a lot of
the people in the X rated industryare the most experienced in the world.
I mean, where else can youdo ten twenty or thirty films a year.
That's great experience, And he didthis. I mean, he directed,
edited wrote forty films in a tenyear period up until he passed away

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in nineteen ninety nine. So Derangewas released in nineteen eighty seven, along
with seven other films that he directedand wrote. He wrote and directed and
released eight films in nineteen eighty seven, mostly with the same cast and crew.
Who will get to in just abit, but Vincent was on a
roll, and to me, afterwatching a lot of his films from the
last few years of his life,he was really finding his footing, his

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voice, his directing style. Iwas personally falling in love with all of
it. Like every new movie Iwatched his, it probably deserved like the
same rating as the movie before,but I just kept getting giving higher ratings.
And he passed away a few weeksafter his fifty first birthday in nineteen
ninety one, which is really sadin many ways because I think he was

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on his way to being a directorthat would have garnered like a huge cult
following. I mean, I wasthinking kind of like a Joe Dematto type
in my opinion, type guy youknow, working in adult films, doing
horror, doing strange comedies, doingaction. Like I felt like Chuck Fincent
would be a director. We wouldbe talking about a lot about today if

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he lived a lot longer, whichis very sad, but I know you
watch some of his movies. Iwatched a lot. Let's look at some
of his filmography. I do wantto point out that that he was never
into watching adult films when he started. He was a gay man who loved
film. He was very open aboutloving comedies like Some Like It Hot.
In an interview I read, heexplained the situation of getting and preparing for

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his first adult film gig. Quote, the first time I was scheduled to
do a porn film, I said, oops, I better take a look
at one and see what they're like. I went to the theaters on forty
sixth Street in New York, andI hated every film. I knew exactly
why I hated them, and said, this would never happen to me.
There's got to be lead up forplay and tees. And then in a

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later interview, he said, moneyshots. They're in movies because we're told
the public wants them. But whenI talk to the average theater goer,
I get a negative reaction. Ifeel they're unrealistic because nobody has sex that
way. They don't make any sense. And I also don't like what I
call medical shots or liver shots,the extreme close ups. I love that

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medical shots, but the audience seems, you know, to like a good
close up. So from the start, he had very different ideas about how
to make adult films, and likeI said, while he you know,
was very lucrative and he made whatsells, he also incorporated kind of his
own style and ideas into some ofthese films, which would lead him in
his cast to a larger larger audience. I didn't watch a lot of his

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real early work. I didn't watchany of his hardcore films. Did you
catch any of his I know yousaw some stuff with Jamie Gillis, Yeah,
I did, Like I watched.I had a few things on my
shelf or Jamie Gillis that I hadn'twatched. But well, actually there's one
that I've watched twice now, Soyou know how Letterbox didn't used to have
sex films. Okay, So Johnand I had watched Blue Ice, I

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think like probably twenty twenty years ago, and so I'm sitting there and I'm
watching it, and I'm like I'veseen this before because I Reggie Nalder is
playing a Nazi in it, andI remember us specifically having a conversation about
like, Reggie Nalder has no cluehe's going to be in a sex film
here, because he's just being shotlike shown like watching something, and then

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they cut to the sex and he'sclearly not in the room where any of
this is happening, and he's onlygot like he's only in a few scenes.
And then I'm watching it, I'mlike, I have seen this before,
but I didn't have it logged becausehe couldn't log sex films back then.
But what I would do is Iwould use a placeholder. But I
don't know what my placeholder for BlueIce was, so I'm no idea when
I watched Anyway, I've seen BlueIce now twice and I really like it.

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It's a fun porn noir, pornnoir film, por noir whatever,
por noir like that, And thenwhat was the other? Oh? I
finally watched Dracula Sucks, which VinegarSyndrome put out on four K, because
that's what Vinegar Syne does. Iwas looking real quick to see if maybe
you logged like cool as ice orsomething for a place. Oh, I

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would have been smart. No,I don't. I have no idea what
I logged in place of that.But no, I didn't watch any of
Vincent's sex films that he directed.I had previously watched A Bad Blood,
which I'm looking at now in letterbox, and my god, you gave it
four and a half. I gaveit four and a half stars. Again,
like I said, as I startedpro restively going through his filmography,

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I mean that Bad Blood blew everythingthat he had made, and I had
watched Out of the Water my absolutefavorite. Oh, I love it.
Georgina Spelvin is on fire. Sheis Oh my gosh, I could and
Linda Blair. I think this isLinda Blair's like best role acting performance personally.
I just loved it so much.And how many times the boom mic

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popped out? I mean in everysingle movie, every Chuck Vincent movie,
you're going to get a boom micro, a little boo Bad Blood Yeah,
also known as a woman obsessed onYouTube. Yeah, that was, like
I think it was. I wantto say a june'sploitation pick for me a
few years ago, and I rememberreally liking it, and I think,
is it right? Misery loves Company? Oh yeah, com I remember there's

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incest in this. I think,yes there is. Yeah, I see.
That's what makes it for me.And and here's the thing is,
like I need to you know,I need to qualify my my adoration of
incest in films in that brother Sisterincest. I'm like, bring it on,
like Amityville two, Please God,more of that kind of shit like

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that, like just weird fucked uprelationships, like just I love watching that
kind of stuff. So yeah,Bad Blood I watched. We talked about
Warrior Queen and like, I'm sorry, like I gave it two stars.
I know you probably gave it likethree, but for me, it was
like, okay, Donald pleasance isthe only reason to watch this otherwise,
that movie to me is like it'sthe perfect example of you know, Lance's

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ratings don't mean anything because you gaveit three stars and you started off by
saying this movie slow, dumb andmeaningless. Yeah, and then I wouldn't
change one thing about it. Itlanded at a perfect time. This was
my first movie I watched after ithelped clean the shine off of the South
by movies I watched, and Iwas obviously still delirious with sleep and you

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know, sleeping in my own badI was. I felt it was just
a perfect time in my life.Okay, it was. It was definitely
the experience more so than the watch. And then I'd already seen a couple
movies like Bedroomized too and watched itlooks could kill, but it looks could
kill. I watched that one.Yeah, ye, I don't remember.
That was probably my least favorite ofthe bunch. Okay, now I don't

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feel bad for not remember. Yeah, it's kind of like a body double
meats rear window type thing. Yeah, I can tell from the poster.
It's like, well, that's funnybecause I think Chuck Vincent is really trying
to go for a DiPalma thing.Because I didn't see if you'd watched Thrilled
to Death or not from nineteen eightyeight, this was probably, I mean,

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outside of Deranged. And I gotto rewatch Bad Blood now because now
I feel like, okay, maybeI need to revisit it. But Thrilled
to Death I had a lot offun with because it was somebody their review
of it before I read it saidit's Vincent doing di Palma doing Hitchcock,
and I was like, okay,And it's about this young couple who meets

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another young couple under unusual circumstances.So the main guy is a pulp fiction
writer, and so he's going tohe takes his wife to a swing club
because his next novel he wants totake place in that world. So it's
gonna be like the Swing Swinger's Murdersor something like that. I don't know.

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So they meet this couple and theybecome like fast friends. But then
it's becomes really clear that this coupleis like manipulating them in a certain way.
And I don't want to give awaytoo much of it, but I
really, I mean, Vincent isambitious with his ideas like this this film
in particular, you can tell likewhat he's going for in much more.

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This is no shade on Vincent,but in much more adept hands, this
could have been like easily a depomalike four star thriller kind of thing.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, And in Bad Blood too, I
don't know if you remember, butthere's a great few scenes that are split
screen, very to palmish kind ofyou know. I mean, it's the
subject matter, not so much,but how he was his techniques, you

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could tell it was a pulling inspirationthere as well. Yeah, yeah,
no, he was good in thethrillers. I watched one called in Rapture
from nineteen ninety. It has thisgreat cold opening of the strunk, abusive
husband coming home to his wife who'splayed by Veronica Hart, and she's holding
a baby and he's like, youknow, what the fuck, you better
open the door for me, andshe casually just lifts a shotgun and blows

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him away, and peeking behind thedoor is the young their younger daughter,
and she's just like smiling and laughingat it, and I'm like, oh,
this is great. And then theboom might drop, of course,
but yeah, very it's, youknow, obviously low budget eighties thriller.
The premise is kind of predictable.It's a failing actor who becomes a limo

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driver and then he starts driving thiswoman around who's husband's involved in the mob
and he's killing It's just in daringbecause because you kind of know exactly what's
going to happen. But Chuck Vincentdoes put like a spin like I saw
in all his movies as predictable asthey might be, there's this charm and

(28:11):
just the scendeering quality that I justloved more and more about it and rap
Sure. So I do want topoint out that most of these movies I
watch, there is a YouTube channelcalled Chuck Vincent Movies and they're all lined
up. I think there's ten uploaded. They're fine quality. I mean,
they're not like the greatest, butyou can see kind of what's happening.

(28:33):
But most of these I watched fromthere. So I love channels like that
that are kind of, you know, specific to a genre or a director.
What else did I watch of is? Yeah, I watched The Warrior
Queen, which Donald pleasants is sounhinged, just a drunky look at me
ye young Nurses in Love and fromnineteen eighty seven, this was on two

(28:57):
B, this crazy, kind ofway too fast paced chaotic sex comedy where
it becomes exhausting. But it's alsoimpressive that it almost seems like all the
in a lot of Chuck Finson movies, but this one particularly, it seems
like every actor just starts going harderand harder and harder, and their campiness

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and their their their performances is themovie goes on, and this one is
just a madhouse. I don't eventhink. I don't. I don't think
I rated this one because I waslike so wide eyed and struck, like
just kind of a shock after itended. But it was about a Russian
spy who's sent to a hospital inNew York. I'm already like lah.

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And in this hospital it holds thissperm, the frozen sperm of of geniuses
like Albert Einstein and just a bunchof you know, Beto, like all
these geniuses, they're their sperm wassomehow saved Abraham Lincoln, I think Thomas
Anderson. It's like, yeah,they it's it's realistic. And and this
spy, she's there to steal thisthese frozen spurms to create Russian geniuses,

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right, it makes sense. Butshe falls in love with the American doctor,
so you know, cue the wallagain. I'm gonna keep saying,
like a lot of Chuck Vincent movies, but it's odd and strange, how
wholesome it all is. Like evenin the scenes where you know, people
just start randomly having sex, it'sjust it's funny. And he doesn't make

(30:26):
it about the sex. He makesit like kind of developing these characters in
this goofy manner that are just it'sabout a good time. Jamie Gillis is
in this one, though, andhe plays a really funny drunk surgeon who
wants Jennifer Dolaura who plays Marianne andderanged Veronica hearts in it. But there's
this mafia boss that wants plastic surgeryto change his appearance, you know,

(30:48):
to you know, obviously, toget away with stuff, but he's given
breast implants instead. Very very seriousthriller. Right. One of my favorites
I do want to talk is CleoSlash Leo from nineteen eighty nine. This
was a VHS rip on YouTube andit even had like at the end of
the credits it had Next on Cinemax. But this starred Veronica Heart or it

(31:14):
stars Veronica Hart as Jane Hamilton herreal name, and Scott Baker, who
popped up in a lot of Chuckminsoncomedies. And I think he's like one
I think and one of my Ithink it was might have been New York's
Finest or one of the other moviesI watched. I said, this guy's
one of the funniest actors I've seenfrom like the eighties. He's funnier than
Robin Williams, and I mean thatsincerely because a lot of his antics.

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I don't think he's copying Robin Williamsis his own style of comedy as well.
But it reminds you of Robin Williamshow he used to go too hard.
But Scott Baker just has the perfectlevel. He is so funny.
So it's about this asshole businessman.He's shot and killed. He falls into
the river and when he comes outof the river, he's a woman.

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So it's Scott Baker. And thenwhen he's shot and killed, it's funny.
He's shot because he cat calls thiswoman. He's like, oh come
here, baby, yeah yeah,and she just shoots and kills him.
She's like asshole man, kick kicking, and he comes out and it's Veronica
Heart. So he starts experiencing likethe misogyny that he would dish out throughout
his whole life. Veronica Heart playinga man has a lot of funny scenes

(32:23):
where she's trying on pantyhose dressing asa woman. You know, it's it's
silly stuff like that Mel Gibson movie. Where that happened. Oh, I
don't know. I mean, it'sdefinitely a movie. And he gets like
that what women want, like hegets zapped and like he oh no,
no, he can hear women's thoughts. He doesn't get changed into a woman

(32:44):
or something like that. Oh,anyway, it's mom Benton, who fucking
cares? Moving on? Sorry?Yeah, no. What's funny about this
is Veronica Heart, you know,it's it's Scott Baker as Leo and he's
in the body of Veronica Heart,but the internal dialogue is still Leo.
So he's like, oh my god, I'm falling in love with this guy.
And that it becomes very which Ifell in love with. It became

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very homo erotic, where he startsfalling for the nicest guy in the world,
some guy named Bob, I think, and you're kind of rooting for
it to work out, and itkind of does. Ok, So it's
very he starts. It's a reallysmart comedy. You know, obviously it
has the you know, the funnysex scenes and a lot of nudity.
But yeah, Cleo Leo is oneof my favorites that I watched. And

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right after that was a movie calledNew York's Finest, which again was another
favorite of mine. Boo MIC's allover the Fucking Place, very catchy theme
song. Jennifer Dolaura who's Mary Anneand DuRane. She plays the lead.
She's a sex worker and she hasthis New York accident, very confident attitude,
really tough, and her and herfriends they're trying to get out of

(33:52):
sex work. And Veronica Hart playsher their pimp with this raspy voice.
He's a complete asshole, just playingthe pimp trying to break out of this
industry and this profession. And MaryRichmond and Scott Baker, who again I
think is the funniest guy ever.He plays this this cross dresser who helps

(34:13):
like set up all these meetings withRichmond and stuff, and you know montages
of him trying to show him likeetiquette and stupid stuff. It's very,
very, very silly. But yeah, they're so dialed in. I just
I loved it. One of theactresses so it was it's uh, Jennifer
Dolaura plays one of them. Who'sthe other one, Heidi Heidi Pain And

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then I forgot the other one RuthCollins maybe, but Heidi Pain gave me
like serious Mary Warnoff vibes, soI was obviously, yeah, it's a
it's a great I would pair thatwith Cleolo for a hilarious like double feature.
I watched another one called Wildest Dreamsbecause I fell in love with Heidi
Pain and she was in it.It's also known as Bikini Jeanie. This

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antique shop owners played by Veronica Hartand her husband. They leave town for
a conference. They leave their antiqueshop to their son. This genie bottles
delivered, and a genie in abikini kind of pops up and grant some
three wishes. Very predictable, stillvery cute. There is a scene where

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they go to a club and there'sa band performing. They're all kind of
in makeup and leather and the lyricsone of the lyrics was cold diarrhea and
a dixie cup. Oh yeah,but yeah, just quick, just to
go through other movies, I meanthis. I think this episode is more
so about Chuck Vincent in the castthan anything else but movies that I have
cued up. Summer Camp, whichapparently is one of his first kind of

(35:45):
raunchy comedies. I think it's fromnineteen seventy nine Sex Appeal. He did
in nineteen seventy three, did acomedy drama called Blue Summer, which was
filmed as a hardcore release, buthe knew it was bigger than just the
market, and he edited to apreferred R rated version. And our good
friend Heather Draine did an essay inMike mcpatten's What Is It Teams Team to

(36:09):
be Hell Yeah. She wrote thatthe film was tremendously underrated and surprisingly poignant.
It boasts plenty of nude nudity androadside shenanigans, Yet this film's heart
is bigger than it's groin. Vincentand Jecksy's characters with nuance and emotion,
both rare traits and this critically forgottenfilm genre. So again, that's how

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I felt watching a lot of ChuckVincent movies, is he was He's very
character driven, like he he empowerswomen. I think in a lot of
these roles, even though they're verysexual and you know, showing off their
bodies, but like during that time, like in the eighties, that's usually
how women were presented. It's justlike background noise or you know, just

(36:53):
for sexual fulfillment and stuff. Butall his women are like really strong.
The fact that they came from anadult industry too, I think is just
I love and all his character allthe characters that he writes for them,
and their performances are so strong,they're like they're the focus of the film,
and I think it's kind of groundbreakingin that regard. So, yeah,

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that's so. There's a lot offilms Chuckman's I think he has,
like, you know, sixty orso credits, a lot of adult films
that I haven't dived into. Butyeah, there's I can't wait to Ronica
Hart's Hardy my most watch actress ofthe year, and I'm just going to
add more to that total. Okay, Chuck minsit now is my most watched
director. Okay. So he hada writing partner for most of his films,

(37:37):
including Deranged, Chuck Curl Chuck Curral, I don't know how to say
his last name, but he wrotefifteen of Vincent's films, including Deranged Another
Chuck vincent frequent collaborator. Collaborator iscinematographer Larry Ravine, who shot most of
Vincent's films, as well as otherhorror films like Doom Asylum and the also

(38:00):
known as Troll Three. Yeah,I always wanted to like Doom Asylum,
and I just I can't. Everytime I watch it, I'm like,
no, it's me, it's me. And then I watch I'm like,
no, it's this fucking movie.I don't like it. I haven't seen
it. I can't. I dotrust it though, like looking, I
mean, even have you seen theCrawlers Trolls? No, I've seen that
poster a million times Z And everytime I'm like, eh, I'll get

(38:22):
around to it. Yeah. Same. But Ravine he was best known in
the adult film industry, shooting aton of extrated films. He directed a
lot of them, including Deeep ThroatToo and Wanda Whips Wall Street starring Veronica
Hart. And I'm going to talkabout his impressive long takes and Deranged.
He shot a lot of the Chuckfinst movies I watch. There are some
impressive long takes there, but nothinglike Deranged. But he's an impressive director

(38:46):
of photography. He actually wrote afew nonfiction books about the industry, one
called Life in a Film Can andone called Wham Bam Boy, A Boom
Mob Wars, Porn Battles, anda View from the Trenches. And Ravine
had been in the adult industry sincein New York City since early seventies.

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So this book is a focus onhow the Mob had a huge involvement in
the porn industry and making films duringthat time. It seems like something I
don't want to pick up. Yeah, let's jump into the cast. It
all starts with this melodramatic performance ofVeronica Hart, who already said she goes
by Jane Hamilton in this movie.That's her real name. She usually uses

(39:35):
Jane Hamilton and a lot of hernon adult films. But I love her.
I just think she's a great actress. I forgot I was going to
go back to look at my notesfor Bloodsucking Pharaoh's, but I know I
kind of praised her a lot.I just I love her nose. She's
very appealing. I just there's somethingabout her that I'm just like, she's

(39:57):
got it. She just continued likesurprises me with her performance, whether it's
like changing the tone of her voiceto fit a new character, her mannerisms,
her reactions. I think she's anamazing comedic actor. She's I love
it. She kind of I couldsee her as like a standout cast member
on it, like Prime SNL likea Jane Curtain or Gilda rad Yeah,

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yeah, I could see that.And she just has that ability to take,
you know, take a character,just a character you can get behind.
No pun intended. Okay, Iwas gonna say she's fantastic, but
yeah, I already mentioned bloodsucking pharaohsin Pittsburgh. I'm gonna try and get
that in. Can we insert thetrailer here for that? I'm gonna try.
And just because I couldn't find atrailer for a Derange doesn't mean that
we're a lot. We're putting inbloodsucking pharaohs. No. I looked,

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Yeah, I couldn't find one either, But yeah. Veronica Hart literally hundreds
of acting credits, the majority ofadult films. She did play a lot
of straight roles, a lot ofvery small cameos, background roles, and
big movies, including a few PaulThomas Anderson films, But in Magnolia,
Pta is a very he was avery vocal fan of Veronica Heart still is.

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She had a small small role inone of the best television series of
all time, Six Feet Under.Oh really, I didn't know that.
And she also directed all adult films, but she produced a ton of movies.
She was just a workhorse in theindustry. She's still popping up in
adult films here and there and videos, usually playing like a mom or a
boss or something. But again,I just think she's completely, completely captivating

(41:30):
and I love her work ethic.I think it's amazing. I did read
that she married once. She sensdivorced, but her husband was an adult
industry sound technician and his name wasMichael Hunt. Mike Hunt. I mean,
it's got to be a pseudonym,but I'm going to pretend like it's
not. Okay. There's not alot of people from the adult industry that

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kind of appeared in a lot ofstraight roles and they kind of made the
transition. I would consider and argueif I had to that Veronica Heart kind
of did like she made it intostraight roles. I think, again,
she's phenomenal because then you have anactor like Jamie Gillis, who plays Veronica
Hart's dad, Eugene and deranged,and he has four hundred plus adult film

(42:12):
roles. He's in a lot ofthe Chuck Benson's R rated stuff in some
of the more straight roles, typicallyuncredited in small roles, but he has
such a recognizable look to him thathe you know, you kind of you
know Jamie Gillis. Yeah, hepops up in Nighthawks with sylvestristerlone Ability Williams.
He started in an early eighties horrorcalled Knight of the Zombies from Joel

(42:35):
m Reid, who did Blood SuckingFreaks. He plays apparently detective who was
investigating a dead army in that movie. But yeah, everything I've watched with
Gillis in the Vincent comedies were amazing, Like, I thought he was great.
How are his performances in Dracula Sucks? In Blue Ice? You said,
is he is? He powerful?He's just always like you're just immediately

(42:59):
drawn to him, you know,no matter what role he's playing. And
like, I could probably pick afavorite, and it's it's going to be
through the Looking Glass for me?Which is going to be? And I
honestly was thinking about that for adouble feature because there is another like incestuous
relationship going on in there that one'smore like about like a cyclical incest thing

(43:22):
happening in the family. But I'msure like most of the true perverts out
there have seen water Power. It'snot for everyone. Aka The Anima Bandit.
I mean, it's the great thingabout water Power is that if you
can get past like what the plotof the movie is, like a guy

(43:45):
who's basically going around and attacking peoplegiving them enemas, it's like this perfect
sleezy New York film, Like it'sgot elements of Taxi driver in it.
It's just it's very un hinged inthat way, and it's you know,
it's not it's not for everyone.I'm not I'm not gonna go out there
and be like, if you've neverseen a sex film like start with water

(44:07):
Power, please don't. Jamie Gillisis Burt the Anima Bandage. Yeah,
I love water Power, but thatone's never going to get a release because
there's an underage person and it's whatelse corruption Roger Watkins that has a Vinegar
Sin Droyme release that has an EasterEgg on it with Last House on dead

(44:30):
End Street. So if you guysdon't have that Blu ray pick it up
because it's two for one. TheFireworks Woman, directed by Wes Craven,
his sex film that he did.That one's got a brother sister incest relationship
where God's trying to like, youknow, come in and be like,
hey, maybe you shouldn't have sexwith your sister, or maybe you should
have sex with your sister. Yeah, Dracula sucks. He's you know,

(44:52):
he's he's doing his best Bella legosythat he possibly can. So, you
know, I can't fault him forthat opening of Missed Beethoven. Oh god,
what else Blue Ice I talked about? Oh, the Passions of Carol.
If you're looking for a Christmas porn, this is the you know,
the Scrooge story if you want that. What else have I seen on the

(45:17):
Prowl? Which is kind of likethe basis for part of Boogie Nights.
I'm trying to think what else I'veseen from him? The Vixens of Kung
Fu. I don't remember that one. Oh wait, yeah yeah yeah,
girl is out in the field andgets gang raped. Never mind that it's
not fun. I remember that now, yes, oh yeah. So there's

(45:42):
there's a lot to choose from.I mean, he's got a really extensive
filmography. You know, I wouldsay, if you're if you're just dipping
your toes into that realm, likeopening of Misty Beethoven would probably be a
good place. Hey, you knowwhat. You know, if you guys
are horror fans, watch The FireworksWoman. You know it's directed by Wes
Craven. Yeah, he's in themovie. I haven't dipped my toes much

(46:04):
into the adult films yet, butyou know, Chuck Vincent and Jamie Gillis
really make me want to. Yeah, it would make anyone want to.
Yeah, I've never seen a VeronicaHeart adult film. There's a lot to
shoes from. Yeah, there's anotheractor in here who plays the Jiggolobum husband,
Jerry Butler. His real name islisted on the credits as Paul Siederman,

(46:27):
and he actually has more film creditsthan Jamie Gillis in adult films.
I think he's probably I don't know. He does good, but he's probably
the weakest link in the Deranged cast, which is a small cast. Interesting
tidbit about him, he was atone point married to Lisa Loring, who
played Wednesday in the original Adams Family. Child actor, and he also wrote

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an autobiography called Raw Talent which hewrote that quote Chuck Vincent shaved the ugly
corners off pornography. Oh yeah,I like that. And then lastly,
we have another I think is astrong actor who She's in a lot of
Chuck Vincent movies, most of thecomedies I watched Jennifer de Laura. She
plays her half stepsister, Yeah,an area stepsister yea. Yeah. Well

(47:15):
she's referred to as the half bastardchild or sister. Yeah. It's weird.
Nothing's real in this movie, butshe was. She was not involved
in the adult film industry, mainlyjust acting in v grade Chuck Vincent comedies.
She was also in frankin Hooker.She starred in Death Manner, Robot
Holocaust. Just another fun actress,especially in New York's Finist. She's fantastic

(47:38):
in it. I also read thatshe's fluent in ASL. She's taught and
may still be teaching at NYU.She could have been a consultant for the
Corpse Grinders, where oh my god, the fake it's real. It's not
stop it it's everyone was dying whenpeople when they were doing that, and

(47:59):
it's so bad. It's like,why did why even have that? Like
why does she need to be mused? It was so she couldn't it was
it was it was an essential partof the of the plot. Okay,
okay, one more cast member thatI want to talk about. Do you
have anybody else do you want totalk about? It's like I said,
it's a minimal cast. A lotof characters pop up, but it's really

(48:20):
like a four person cast. Butbaby Frankie is Veronica Heart's true life son
El, So the baby in thereis Veronica Heart's child. Okay, Max,
Okay, that's it. Let's let'sstart talking about the Repulsion ripoff and
how much it is a ripoff.It very much is, And I think

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I was actually kind of surprised thatthis wasn't in Kayla Janice's House of Psychotic
Women? Is it in the expandedIt's in the expanded the latest first yet
Okay? It was okay, allright, but yeah, because I have
the older one and I was like, I haven't upgraded yet. Yeah,

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because that's for obviously when you're watchingthis year, like this would be a
perfect it should be in the firstedition. I mean that, No,
sh no, of course, there'sso many movies and they're not gonna shame
her for it not being in that. That's you know, yeah, you
know, you know, yeah,I'm not gonna shame anyone for not having
a movie in their film reference book. But yeah, it's has so many
of those, it hits so manyof those points of it doesn't even build

(49:28):
up to it because it's like rightoff the bat, like the minute the
fucking credits roll, she's already hearingvoices, and I'm like, wow,
we're not We're not even like givenan introduction to what's happening. We're just
thrown in the deep end of herpsychosis. Chuck Vincent gave Veronica Hart the
worst in life, like it fromthe start, Like you said, it's

(49:49):
all it's an it's not being it'snot piled on. It's just been on
her for from the from the openingscene when she's in the car. I
mean, it feels like a combinationof what's expected from a woman during that
time, or you know, fearsof women might have during that time,
like I don't know, sex,being sexually molested by a parent, seeing

(50:12):
your father commit suicide, finding hisbody, having a family that resents you,
you know, being attacked, hearingvoices, dropping out of college,
a miscarriage. It's a little toomuch. It's like, yeah, she
is fucking acting her brains out,trying to keep up with what's being thrown
at her. Yeah, it's like, Okay, then this happens to you.
Then this happens to you then,and it's like, how is she

(50:36):
still like even communicating? How isshe not catatonic now? Right? And
all this and it's almost kind ofrelieve. It's some relief to know that.
I mean, it's not really reliefbecause it's all A lot of it's
in her head, so a lotof it's not real. You don't know
exactly what's real. She's kind ofacting out what did happen to her in
life with these fake these fake scenesand stuff. But its almost annoying.

(51:00):
It's almost irritating how much is unfoldinglike on screen to Veronica Heart, Like
I don't want to see her gothrough these emotions. Yeah, I get
it. I mean I loved herperformance. Like I said, she kind
of turns on a dime, Likein one scene she's bothering over her dead
father and then she runs to thearms of her husband to recreate her wedding

(51:22):
and all in one take. LikeI already said, I think that's what's
most impressive about Deranged, and Ithink it is the focus of this movie
is just the production of it.The long takes the first time I watched
it, I think I called itChuck Vincent's Rope Okay, which is Alfred
Hitchcock's movie for nineteen forty eight,one of my favorite Hitchcock movies. That

(51:43):
movie, which it's eighty minutes long. It was shot in ten takes,
ten long takes, some of themextending over ten minutes, most of them
right around like nine minutes, andhe edited it to where it looked like,
I think, just four shots.But that's what I got. When
I first watched De Range for thefirst time, I was so impressed with,
you know, the tracking shots offollowing Joyce Peters throughout her small apartment,

(52:09):
passing through walls, or going tothe bathroom then to the kitchen.
People just disappearing from scenes when thetake is still happening, boom, MIC's
popping in and you're like, thatwasn't real, Like that's she's envisioning.
It's very stagy, and I thinkthat'll turn a lot of people off,
but I love it. I loveit for that fact and if anything I'm

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you know this to me would itwould make a great stage play. I
think there are definitely films where it'slike that. This story belongs on a
stage, not on a film.But it works so well here because of
because of those long takes and becauseof what's happening. Like there's movies that

(52:52):
God, like The Whale. Iwas like, why is this a movie?
This is a stage play, youknow, but something like this where
you know, there's these extremely longtakes and there's a lot going into people
dipping out of the scene like onthe when they're off camera and like setting
things up you know again to liketransition to a new memory or hallucination or

(53:15):
whatever it may be. It's veryambitious for what it is. And again
like not Shade on Vincent, butlike in more adept hands, this would
be amazing. No, I agree, Like like you said, I think
it does. It feels more likea stage play, like a almost like
a one act performance in a lotof ways, and it is kind of

(53:38):
in better hands it has been donekind of like with Plan. Yeah,
but at the same time, thisdoes feel very different. It does have
it does have differences from a pulsionalthough it's basically the same plot setting,
even the ending is kind of similar. But I would I would love to
see some sort of remake of thiswith this specific one because again in the

(53:59):
long term, I watched I don'tknow ten Chuck fins At movies this past
week, and boom mics pop uplike in everything, and that's like something
like where you're when you see it, you're like, Okay, cut the
boom mic in the shot, let'sreshoot derange. It makes more sense because
you got these long takes and it'svery you know, you can't really reshoot
a lot of scenes where they're breakingfurniture or so what a boom mic happens?

(54:22):
You're like, I feel like I'mpart of the casting career. Like
I'm like, keep it going,keep rolling, let's go, like this
is too good to stop. Anotherthing that adds to the element, which
I didn't hint on Bill Heller,the original composer when I was going through
the cast. He really only hada handful of movies of scores for other

(54:42):
Chuck Fincit movies, like some likeRoommates. He did the sound for Young
Nurses in Love. He did thescore Hot t Shirts. But it's very
it's unsett He does a really goodjob in this. There's a lot of
like moments where it's just like heartbeatsand like random glass breaking that you hear
over just scenes that you're watching VeronicaHeart lose her mind. Yeah, and

(55:05):
the opening it's kind of like areminiscent of like Suspiria or Halloween theme that
kind of happens. I have thatnote like there's this synth sounds that are
very carbonder esque. Yeah, Imean it's it's kind of it's chaotic,
it's effective, it's kind of lazy, you know, for that area,
but I think it works really whatbecause then he starts layering like that that
you know, Halloween theme on topof this other kind of rockabye baby theme,

(55:29):
and it becomes very chaotic. Itadds to the tension and actually watching
this character lose her mind. Butyeah, it's it's pretty sloppy. I
could see why he didn't actually doa whole lot of compositions. But I
applaud this one one hundred percent.But in the right hands. Yeah,
it's kind of hard to pick.I was sitting back when I was watching

(55:52):
it the second time, saying like, Okay, what are my favorite parts
of this movie? And it's difficultto pick to say, hey, this
is my favorite part from a movielike this. Yeah, I can't pick
scenes or set pieces because of howthe film plays out, you know,
and how it's shot. My notesunder notable elements are boom mic obviously.

(56:15):
I think the boom mic is endearinglyyou know it is the eating spaghetti with
her fingers still not as bad asBarry Keegan and fucking killing them sacred deer.
Okay, I'm all right, Kissthe bitch, Kiss the bitch,
kill the bitch. Yeah, that'sa good one. Like I feel like,

(56:38):
I feel like that'd be a cooljust tattoo kiss the bitch, just
right tattooed, like just written acrossyour body somewhere. I think most of
what and you're gonna get this.In any movie where we're watching a woman
have a breakdown and involved in somesort of psychosis, questions of do we

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think she killed her dad? Wasshe ever really pregnant to begin with,
or did she have a miscarriage?The freeze frame at the end with her
husband Frank like on the street,was that to be like he's just some
random stranger on the street. Wasshe ever even really married or is that
just to show like he never leftor maybe he just got home and he's

(57:21):
on his way to go see her, Well, the apartment's building down?
Is the apartment even building and burningdown? Like? I mean, what
is real exactly that I have that? What's real? Like it's is she
really pregnant? Is she really married? Is mary Anne really her half or
stepsister? Is? What? Doesshe really have that baby shower? And
do people really hate her that much? Or is this a solid perception of

(57:42):
hers that she's living in her apartment? Yeah, it's It's something that I
find fascinating. I love that theyjust kind of stick to not revealing anything.
I don't want the answers, butI have questions, but I don't
necessarily want the answers, right,Yeah, and then the whole thing with
the fortune and stuff? Is shea millionaire? Like it's it's yeah,
it's very very disorientating. Like it'slike I said, it becomes it's not

(58:05):
necessarily irritating, but it's just likean exhausting like Okay, let up,
give me some relief here, likewhat is happening? But it's challenging because
you're used to having movies where likeyou get your you know, exposition,
rising action, climax, falling action, you know, and you don't get
that in this and you don't havesatisfactory answers, and so a movie like

(58:29):
this can be challenging, and tome that's refreshing because it's like I'm experiencing
something with this movie that's different thanjust watching a movie seeing what's happened.
Most of the time being able topredict what's going to happen. Right in
this case, it's like, Idon't know where this is going because I
don't know what's real. And soI think it's important for people to watch
films like this, to have tobe challenged, to not have answers,

(58:52):
and to like experience something different thanjust a straight narrative film. One hundred
percent. Yeah. And the factto add to that, the fact that
the cast and Chuck Vincent and youknow Ravine, they're they're fully committed to
doing that, and it's you couldsee it on screen boom MIC's and all
like, it's they're committed to makingthis like an uncomfortable watch. And I

(59:14):
totally love this movie for that.Some of my favorites, though, you
know, to add on to thespaghetti, I think the big fat Juicy
pickle is great. I did lovethat delivery guy Nick who always checked up
on her. I like how hereferred to himself in the third person when
he became angry. You know,make nick happy. Now, come on,
answer Nick. I one of hisquotes when you know, obviously sexually

(59:38):
attracted to Ronica Hart's character even ifshe's pregnant, but she's not really is
he wants to have sex with herand he's about to and she starts losing
her mind, saying, you know, Daddy told me that you have to
leave. He's like, what thefuck are you talking about? Yeah,
oh, you want me to playdaddy. You want me to play big
Daddy. And then he yells this, which I had to rewind because I
was like, what does this mean? Oh? I thought you were sick

(01:00:00):
or something, baby, but you'vegot spunk to burn. And I'm like,
this is that is a weird line. Yeah, And I wonder if
it was scripted or if it's justsomething that the actor just kind of said.
Cow juice. We're going to talkabout cow juice. Oh God,
milk is gross. If you're inmilk is very gross. Hugging milk.
I love cheese. I love cheese. I'm not gonna lie give me all

(01:00:22):
the cheese. But John chugs milk, and I'm just like, is it
whole milk or two percent? Idon't pay. I think it's like two
because whole milk's like drinking, likeit's like drinking like heavy cream or yeah,
that's what I was raised on.But I yeah, I'm only like
what I have cereal. I'll eatcereal dry a lot, but swy milk
and almond milk is I'm kind ofinto. But yeah, I'm on the

(01:00:45):
almond milk and John thinks that's grossand I'm like, whatever, you're drinking
fucking cowjuice. Cowjuice. I lovedit. And one of my favorite scenes
too, It's very subtle, butI watched it a few times in a
row is when Veronica Hart goes intothe kitchen to make coffee and she pours
the coffee in the coffee pot andthen the water where the filter and coffee

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goes and she's like she's just kindof that's when she's really like, you
know, really losing it and shestarts killing her sister and stuff. But
yeah, this is, like Isaid, this is a movie I think
we both recommend, and like Isaid, it was kind of like I'm
going to pick this to save time. But I'm glad. I'm glad I
picked it because I am more inlove with Chuck Vincent, more in love

(01:01:30):
with the cast. I want toseek out more of their films, so
I'm going to keep doing that.So I was really happy that that I
went down that rabbit hole. Yeah, I think Lance, you're probably in
the future you're going to have likean addendum to your Blu Ray Wishless be
like, no, I want tohold Chuck Vincent box set now, and
oh man, I just just Comediesalone. Oh man, that's gonna that's
gonna make it. It really isgreat. Yeah, I'm very sad that

(01:01:54):
Vincent passed away. I already saidthis, but I feel like it was
very early in his career. Hewas he just turned fifty one. I
think he was finding what he was. He was always good at what he
did, but I think he wasfinding like his his passion and like he
was really delivering on what he wantedwritten and put to screen. He wasn't

(01:02:14):
interviewed much, from what I canfind, so I couldn't find much information
where he spoke directly about making hisfilms, which today I would love.
I think all his films are perfectfor releases, for Blu Ray releases,
I think I don't know if himnot being around could be a you know
or who who owns the rites?There could be a lot. But I
feel like if he were alive,just imagine the audio commentary with him or

(01:02:37):
the special features of him discussing howa movie like Deranged was you know,
was produced and created and working withthe cast and the long takes. It's
just I think that was why itwas one of my Blu Ray wish lists.
But I just I'm very sad thatthere's not a whole lot of interviews
and time spent on his on hisperspective of making films. Yeah, I

(01:03:01):
think the best resource for anything ChuckVincent at this point is going to be
the rialto report like Ashley West.The amount of research into the adult film
industry there is unmatched. And obviouslyhe doesn't have a direct interview with him,
but you know, there's some interestingstuff on like his film studio and

(01:03:22):
like some of the films that hemade and things like that. So obviously,
if you know your box set evergot made, you know, first
stop should be with Ashley West forspecial features. I think right, and
I read a lot of great stufffrom Joe Rubin, who was he's an
adult film historian and co founder ofVinegar Syndrome. Yeah, he had a

(01:03:43):
lot of great things to say aboutChuck Vincent, especially when Vinegar Syndrome started
off to and just kind of adultfilms. Yeah, his interviews and his
kind of insight into to Vincent's filmmakingand kind of like what he was intending
to do. It's really interesting.There's a lot of interviews with him too
out there that's worth checking out.Nice, Okay, double feature pick,
Yeah, I think I Obviously we'vetalked about Repulsion a lot. That's probably

(01:04:08):
the obvious pick there, and nothingwrong with that for anyone who pairs those
two up. I think it worksperfectly. I mentioned Through the Looking Glass
earlier, just for like a youknow, Jamie Gillis Incest double feature.
I think you could just open toa random page in Kayla Janiese's House of

(01:04:28):
Psychotic Women and find in appropriate doublefeature. Good call. But I went
with a film directed by a womanwho we have covered on this podcast before.
That's ROBERTA. Finlay. Yes,A Woman's Torment from nineteen seventy seven.
Hell yes, I watched that too. For this episode, it's I
love the Oracle. The Oracle isprobably my favorite film that she's made,
but Woman's Torment is I think Lurkersmight be my favorite. I love that

(01:04:53):
movie. Youdo. Yeah, I'msorry that that's okay. A Woman's Torment
it is about this woman, Karen, who is mentally ill, and she
finds out she's going to be committed. So she runs away and she to
this remote house on the beach,and so she's in this singular location.

(01:05:14):
She's losing her grip on reality.She's having these sort of violent delusions,
sexual delusions. What's real, what'snot? We don't know a lot of
pretty obvious parallels to what's happening toVeronica Hart in here. And there's also,
you know, the adult film industryconnection there as well with ROBERTA.
Finlay. So fun fact in aWoman's Torment, one of the men in

(01:05:38):
that film, in one of thesex scenes is one of the grave diggers
from Full Cheese. City of theLiving Dead. Wow, we were watching
John picked it out. I wouldnever be able to do something. We're
watching it. This is years ago, and John's like, is that the
dude from some one of the GraveDiggers from and I'm like, I don't
know, how do you know that? Did he pop it in? And
he's like, yeah, verified itwith him? I love that? What

(01:06:00):
about you? Yeah? No,I just to hit on that because I
did have a woman's torment as apossible pick. What's your name Tara Chung
who plays Karen, Yes she is. I mean, yeah, Veronica Heart,
Tara. I mean, their performancesare so effective and so obviously a
woman's torment is way more graphic andgore and in sex. Yeah, there's
an X rated version and an Rrated version out there, but perfect pick.

(01:06:24):
I mean I pretty much had thatone as my pick. Oh sorry,
no, but I have I havebackups here. Okay. So I
was thinking, like, if whatif I just want to do like a
fun Chuck Vincent double feature. ClearlyI would be so great showcase Veronica Heart's
talent even more in this comedic role. But you know, obviously I don't.
That's straight up comedy. I wasthinking of Bad Blood, which was

(01:06:45):
my favorite of his. Okay,but I'm going to go ahead and go
with Alfred Hitchcock's Rope nineteen forty eight. It's all so very stagy impressive long
takes. Like I said, itwas shot in just eighty minute movie shot
in ten takes, so the performanceshave to be on point. Obviously,
Hitchcock if there was a boom micand he's going to redo that whole scene.

(01:07:11):
But it's a great it's a greatlook into it's a great double feature,
just technique of you know, trackingshots and long takes and you know
how a cast is so important touncomfortable thrillers because Rope has some pretty It's
not like killing your best friend andstuff. It's it's good, good stuff.
So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonnapick Rope with with Derange, I
like it. I'm not mad thatyou didn't pick bad Blood, but yeah,

(01:07:32):
yeah, I can't argue with Hitchcockif I if I had a pick
Deranged, I mean I probably wouldn'thave watched bad Blood beforehand, but we
have April coming up, we do. I probably would have picked bad Blood.
But am I going to Oh okay, I mean you can, we
can. There's no rules in that. I mean, there's rules in this

(01:07:53):
podcast, but it's not no rules. April. Yeah, I don't know.
It is April Showers of Blood,though it is April Showers. April
Showers of Blood. He's flared,So my pick for April Showers of Blood

(01:08:24):
is a South Korean film called ABloodthirsty Killer from nineteen sixty five. This
is about a man who is inthis sort of like remote museum or gallery.
It's kind of unclear, very sparselocation, and he happens upon a
painting of his long deceased ex wife. Soon he and his family are being

(01:08:49):
tormented by strange happenings. This feelsvery Japanese in the sense that it pulls
from not just like ghosts and vampirelike hauntings like oh your you know,
ex wife, whatever, but likethe cat woman, like the haunted cat,
or more specifically, the genre iscalled bacan echo like the haunted cat

(01:09:13):
films, where like a woman isI think it's always a woman pretty much.
It could just be a person,though, I think. But they're
wrongly or cruelly murdered or something likethat. If the cat licks or laps
up their blood, then a bagof echo or a ghost demon cat emerges
to seek revenge. And that's essentiallylike part of what this is. But

(01:09:36):
it's different and in the best way, So I think a lot of people
will if you've seen like Kuran EcoHaunted, Turkish Bathhouse, Black Cat Mansion,
those are some examples of that genre, So you'll probably get a lot
of vibes in this film like that. So a Bloodthirsty Killer in nineteen sixty

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five. This is on YouTube.We'll post a link in show notes in
our discord and on Twitter, andit currently has three hundred and twenty five
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at Hex Massacre. You can followme on Instagram and letterboxed at El Shayby.
And if you haven't already, youcan also pre order Dreamstalker from Terror
Vision, which Lance and I havea video essay on. We have an
episode that covers that film as well. If you need to hear more about
it and be convinced to pick thatup. We'll put a link to that

(01:10:42):
in show notes as well, andwe will see you back next month for
April Showers of Blood. Yes,bye, honey, I'll secrets travel.

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shame since time has built by cruiseme blod, cruise me day a blood

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will meet me young, young tobe on no no return. Uh think,

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oh do the god cuse me thycruse me day beyond. And the
red said, say it's see thatso bad an scause they cross it.

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