July 26, 2023 • 61 mins
DIY horror champion Annie Choi from Bleeding Skull joins us again, this time to talk about one of her recommendations from her previous appearance on our show. Stop motion, vagina spores, a brain in a jar, hotel friendships, and more in Disembodied! Follow Bleeding Skull! on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Letterboxd (https://letterboxd.com/bleedingskull/) Join our discord! https://discord.gg/F8WsTzE9qt Follow this podcast on Instagram and Facebook @unsunghorrors. Follow Lance on Instagram and Letterboxd @lschibi Lance’s shop: https://lanceschibi.bigcartel.com/ Follow Erica on Letterboxd or Instagram @hexmassacre Logo by Cody Schibi Part of the Prescribed Films Podcast network (www.thepfpn.com) Next episode: The Nine Demons - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTg0wJZ2BNM&list=WL&index=11&t=5229s
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Prepare yourself for the terror the prisonof madness. We have a few Intero
and Nonritter. Welcome to Unsung Horrorswith LUNs and Denica. Leave all your
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sanity behind. It can't help younow. Hello, and welcome to another
episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcastwhere we discuss underseening horror films, specifically
those with fewer than one thousand viewson letterboxed. I'm Lance and I'm Erica
and for this episode, we willbe discussing a movie that I watched for
the first time a few years agoafter reading a book called Bleeding Skull,
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the nineteen nineties trash horror Odyssey.And then we had the author of the
book, Annie Troy, Josie andBud Zach Carlson. They joined us for
an episode back in twenty twenty one. It's our most downloaded episode, folks.
Hell Bleeding School is very popular withour listeners and we love them for
that and it makes sense. Imean, that episode was fun. Not
only did they talk about the book, they went over some of their favorite
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personal films in the book, andone movie really stood out to me.
It was one of my favorites thatI had seen so far. And it
was one of Annie's picks. Itwas called or it is called this Disembodied
And there are so many underseen moviesin that book that we can that we
can select better Elsibile to cover onour podcast, you know, having less
than one thousand views on Letterbox,but I always kept Disembodied on the list
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to potentially pick for an episode.And the time has come, so we're
going to be discussing Disembodied from nineteenninety eight, directed by William Kirsten.
And as I mentioned, Annie Troyfrom Bleeding School recommended this film, so
I thought, who better to havejoin us, you know, to talk
about the film. This is aperson who not only put it on my
radar, but really champion this filmwith her writing, and she just made
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it sound better than anything in theworld and early. Yeah, so we'd
like to welcome Annie Choi to thepodcast. Welcome Annie, Hi, thanks
for having me again, Thanks forjoying So yeah, not only do you
make up a huge part and writefor Bleeding School. Yeah, by the
way, nobody's picked up this bookyet. Seriously, folks, come on,
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we started enough to pick up thebook in that episode, and if
you haven't already what are you doingwith your life? Yeah, gets sold
out, I know, I know, so you have to find it in
other avenues on the black market.Oh no, it's probably I know,
two dollars. Yeah, I meanthat's worth it. Yeah, it's easily
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my favorite film guide release. LikeI love I love the referencing. Thank
you. But Annie've also written afew a few novels, few books,
Happy birthday or whatever, and shutup your welcome thoughts on life, death
and other inconveniences. Yeah, hasnothing to do with movies. Nothing to
the movies. Would still a funread in your writing. You know that
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you have Bleeding Skull. It's allvery windy and very fun read. Yeah,
thank you. But also video Ortexhas made its return to Elamo draft
House Programming, which I know you'rea part of. Yeah. So Joe,
who's the founder of Bleeding Skull,and my partner, we have both
started doing video Ortex in Austin andin New York City, hopefully expand other
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cities. But yeah, we're it'sback, baby. So exciting, Yes,
so much fun, and it's allmysteries. So we don't announce it.
We don't even hint. We kindof hinted. I guess, but
it's really just meant for people withan open mind and you know warriors,
who I call it. It's forwarriors, Like do you have no wada
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what you're going to get? SoI love the series. It's been super
fun. I squeaid when I sawa trailer for it is a draft house
for Terror Tuesday, and I sawa Video Vortex trailer and I was like,
yeah, it's back, baby.Yeah, I mean we're working on
it. You know, during thepandemic it went away and we came back,
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you know, we didn't have thestuffing for it. So now we're
back and we're like so excited aboutit. And yeah, Also the mystery
element of it really just you know, really opened it up for us and
then which allows other people to likereally experience all the stuff that we've always
wanted to show but not necessarily couldfor various reasons. Sure can you,
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you know, just for folks whomaybe are in Austin or New York and
this is available to them, explainlike what the dip, like how Video
Vortex is different from say Terror Tuesdayor Weird Wednesday or any of the other
regular series that Alamo has. Sure, so Video Vortex. So Tera Tuesday
is mostly obviously horror, and WeirdWednesday is mostly exploitation or anything sort of
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off the beaten path. It couldbe a studio movie that was really not
seen, or a studio movie thatwas like what were you thinking. It
could also be very low budget,you know, Kung fu films from Hong
Kong. I mean it, weirdones. They just kind of spans the
whole universe of cinema, and videoVortex is like the crazy what I like
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to call like the crazy little sisterwho chops the heads off of dolls and
like, you know, attaches usfirecrackers to them. So Video bor Test
is definitely like a more underground something, maybe more cult or something that's not
allowed to be screened or seen.Stuff that was definitely not released necessarily worldwide
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on home videos. Sometimes you couldfind it in overseas or maybe they just
made a few copies here, Andit's we kind of built it around and
like if you came over to myhouse and I got you really high and
I was like you gotta wash this, Oh my god, it's like that.
That's kind of the vibe. It'slike you have no idea what you're
gonna get into. But you knowyou're in good hands by two crazy,
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outlandish people who really want to likereally make you enjoy watching these things and
being alive and just knowing that there'sfilms out like this out there that you'll
probably never see if you were justbrowsing on letterboxed or it's certainly not on
any kind of streaming platform. Yeah. Yeah, back in twenty seventeen and
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like through nineteen, I went toa bunch of them, and that was
the first time I saw like DemonWind, Desperation Rising, I mean,
Death Warrior, Sultangler, Yeah,Killing Spree was the first. Oh yeah,
my god, Killing Spree. Yeah, that's just give a taste of
what some of these movies are,like, I mean, they're the best,
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yeah for sure. And then thevideo boar takes. In the past
we kind of limited to films thatwere you know, direct to video or
only availble on BHS, and thensince in those have come out on Blu
Ray, right, which is greatfor the movies. But yeah, this
one, we're less limited about theformat and more limit are more expansive around
like what's the kind of underground vibeor what's like the excitement. What's what?
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What can't be screened or what?What is it? Truly special?
Crazy? It could be a documentary, it could be animation, it could
be you know, it just spansall kinds of It's beyond genre. It's
just more like to me, theunderlying scene that that groups all these movies
together is that they are incredibly uniqueand you've never heard of them. I
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mean, if you have kudos,not only the HS, but there might
be prints and stead the probably won'tbe Prince. Yeah. I don't want
to limit anything about what we say, but yeah, there, I don't
think we're doing prints. We're reallydoing like you know, they could be
bootlegs. They could you know,they could be something that was released overseas
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on DVD or something like that.But yeah, so they're different sources for
sure. But it's never I don'tthink it's ever going to be a print.
H Well, it's going to belike the best day of the month,
whatever month. Yeah. Yeah,it's the last Monday of every month.
And we're hopefully going to bring itto other cities. I think San
Francisco is interested, but no promiseis there. Cool? Yeah, so
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Video Vortex we're all excited about.And also I mentioned on the Bleeding School
episode, I'm just going to giveanother shout out because I do love the
band that you and Joe makeup takingbecause I love it. I hope you
guys there's plans for more. I'llprobably close out this episode of one of
those songs. Nice. Okay,So Disembodied this is this is the movie
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we're talking about, right. Soit currently has five hundred and forty five
views on Letterbox. It is availableto watch on TV. It seems to
be the same version on the Bluray release sets out there by Brink Vision,
but it's worth noting that the newerrelease has these updated digital effects and
new music, which was pointed outon that that you pointed out any You
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and Joe an episode. So there'sa VHS copy album there released by Dead
Alive Productions if you want to seein the original state. I'd love to
see it in the original state.Also if you have the vhs qs because
I looked. I looked it upand it is on eBay, but it's
like one hundred and eighty five bucks. The VHS market is so insane,
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Like I don't it's crazy, butyeah, I think the VHS version of
this is clearly the more superior versionof this. I generally, I think
we all, most of us agreethat when directors go back and have to
be toold things, it tends tonot be as good in my opinion at
least. Yeah, and I canlimitations. I mean, we can go,
we can go like to the GeorgeLucas special editions. Yeah, exactly,
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exactly, Yeah, And so theyreally like go hard with these digital
effects for like re releases. You'reright, it loses a little of it's
like a deering effect in the DIYthat I love something right, And I'm
not going to try to advocate forthis in any way, shape or form,
because obviously, like we'd want tosee it in it's original format.
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But if you have the means tofind the VHS rip on legal adjacent means,
it is out there. I'm justsaying I don't normally like to advocate
for that. We do want tosupport the artists in there however you can,
But I'm just saying, if youreally want to be a purist and
watch it and you don't want toshell out two hundred dollars for VHS,
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it does exist. So there's thatyeah means there's always a way. There's
a way. Yeah, okay.So we typically do a quick summary in
the film recovering and before I attemptthis, I'm going to try this.
Good job. Also, I'm sayinggood job, like ahead of time,
because I'm just applauding you for evenattempting the summary. And there's a favorite
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line from your review of Disembodied inthe Bleeding Skull Book. It's one of
the last sentences where you where yousay describing Disembodies like describing your acid trip
to someone words fair the actual experience, which it's very true. I mean,
if I try and sound like,you know, the times I did
acid, like when I was inmy teens and twenties, which was like
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what a decade ago on that hill, it's like last year. Yeah yeah,
yeah, we're children here. Yeah. I mean, it's an intimate
experience and it's something that I'll alwaysremember. But if I try and explain
it to somebody, I'll sound likean insane person, right right, So,
which is okay exactly, but notonly you necessarily, what's the goal
of the conversation. So yeah,I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
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I'm gonna sound like an insane personhere as I attempt to give you a
simple quick synopsis of disembody. Doyou want some gummies before you start?
I already started my breakfast, allright? Okay? So we follow Connie
Sprouts, a young woman who's justchecked herself into a shitty hotel with only
one vacant room available, which isin the basement with the boiler. She
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unpacts her luggage, which includes astrange electronic machine and a jarl her own
brain. Her brain is not inher own skull because there's an alien setting
up shop in her head, andwe find this alien organism infests the human
host like a neural parasite, occupyingthe skull cavity while maintaining the host's brain
externally. The body is internally alteredand several new organs are formed, which
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we get to see as Knyie hasthis spitting protrusion on the side of her
face that liquefies human victims to feedon their brains. We also get to
see her give birth to a fewof these these vagina monsters like these.
That's so Connie's on the move ashost to this parasite, but She carries
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with her the Damp, a dreammachine, which is something she created that
prevents the dreams of the alienated dreamsfrom becoming physically real. However, she
starts having issues with this machine andshit starts getting out of hand. During
this time, she makes friends witha girl, the very bubbly personality Trixie,
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who was running the room next door, while a doctor Sigmund Sylvanus from
the Plasmaster Corporation is out to stopand destroy Coddie. That's wow, that
is really good, which is whatthis embodied is, which I love.
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Yeah, mind fucking It makes yourethink everything you just say or think about
the movie. Okay, So thecrew of Disembodies, literally three people okay
for the most part, actually reachedout to the director William Kirsten. Yeah,
Bill as I like to call yourfriends, know, yeah, besties.
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He has the sight of his ownthat it's William Kurston dot com that
I found when I was, youknow, doing some infos and notes for
this this this episode, and focuseslike predominantly on his music. He does
a lot of like orchestrals. Ohmy god, does he him? And
Alpisari. We need to get themtogether exactly. And that's what I do
like about this. I think Ihave some for Sari notes on this.
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Okay, okay, same money.But yeah, if anybody wants to check
out his sight, he covers youknow, all his films are on there.
They're not on there, but youknow he has like brief little history
of his filmography and his music.But he was very courteous with his time.
We went back and forth a coupleof times. I just asked him
a few questions that I thought mightbe interesting for the podcast. It was
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very attempted, like he would replythe same day. He loved talking about
Disembodied in his work, so veryvery generous. Man, Oh that's awesome.
But he explained that that Disembodied hasa very checkered history to put him
up. It was first distributed distributedin nineteen ninety eight by a company called
Deadli Productions, and they made somemoney off of it, distributing dhs across
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the American South, selling it toJapan. But Kirsten and the involved filmmakers
they never saw a scent and itappeared to be doing fairly well selling copies
and whatnot. So after a whilereceiving nothing from Dead Alive. He demanded
to get out of the contract,and they sent back the video master,
which of course he had to payfor to get back, and they sent
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it in a paper envelope, whichis very shitty of them. So yeah,
I mean, he basically called themscumbags. He said, you know,
the company since gone out of business. Apparently the CEO got in some
legal trouble, but sup. Yeah. And then he had the film sitting
and storage and a storage cabinet formore than a decade and he finally decided
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to transfer the sixteen milaner negative toHD video in twenty fifteen. He did
a remastered version of it and contactedbreak Vision Films, which is the Bluebear
release sets out there. But sadly, they did pretty much the same thing
that Dead Alive did after distributing onBlu Ray and also streaming that one cent
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paid through their creative accounting. Verysad sucks, he was. He was
very open about it, and headmitted that this is what happens to a
lot of low budget filmmakers. Youknow, if you can't afford an attorney,
usually because you spend everything you havemaking this film, you're basically screwed.
So he pulled it from break Visionand since twenty twenty two, since
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last year, he has it juston film Hub, which is a transparent
mechanical distribution company that just goes tostreaming services and it has earned some money.
Is great for it. Yeah,he's very I mean, it's very
exciting. Obviously he can see allthe reporting, you can see exactly,
you know, all the actual earningswhere it's being distributed. He jokingly said
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that he may have a special dinnerexclusively with the earnings he's made so far,
this one's dinner. I mean,what a sweet man he did.
He did. He's very aware ofLetterbox though, and he pointed out that
he's done as recently a large numberof great reviews and people who seem to
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know exactly what he and the involvedcast and crew were going for with Disembodied.
So I mean that seemed very rewardingfor him. It seemed like,
you know, it's fun to seeand it's cool that he's keeping tabs on
all this stuff. But yeah,concerning the production, Disembodied was, like
I said, essentially made by threepeople besides the actors. William Kirsten,
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who wrote it, he directed it, did the effects, stop motion animation,
set designs, editing basically on thehand and everything to get his filmmate,
a man named Jim Dieterrickson who alsoplayed the night clerk in the movies,
and Bob Richardson and Kristen mentioned thatboth of these guys were just brilliant
people, wonderful to work with,have since sadly passed away both of them,
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but he said that did all themakeup effects, literally cooking latex in
the oven of his small house.He also helped a lot with his script
ideas and just overall inspiration, aswell as helping with editing the film,
and Bob Richardson helped with constructing thesets, getting the actors whom he knew
from the Reno Theater area, andjust general production assistants during shooting. Once
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in a while, he said,a couple of people he knew would show
up to pay a section of theset, but for the most part,
Bill and Bob did all the setconstruction by themselves, which I think especially
that hotel room in that fucking bathroom, yeah, O, my god,
that there. And the shooting wasdone mainly with sixteen millimeter Bolex spring wound
cameras, and for all the dialoguescenes they borrowed a big heavy Oricon Sinc.
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Motor sixteen millimeter camera. Damn goodfor them. Yeah, And then
for the HD video release, Kirstendecided what we already kind of talked about.
He decided to reduce some of thedream special effects, using these fluorescent
pastel artwork and some sculpted objects filmeddigitally. You can tell when you watch
these versions they really yeah, it'slike okay, yeah, as we had
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already pointed out, he also redidthe music score, which he can for
this. The new score he composedin a fifties horror sci fi style.
This is his quote, using ViennaSymphonic Library orchestral samples. He said he
still has the old sense score andthe effects as separate scenes, and he
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is working on a new Blu rayrelease that should be out later this year,
didn't you know. I kind ofwas kind of like, what's what's
going on with that? You know, trying to get some more details out
of him. I was I wasn'tprodding too much, but he said,
yeah, I look for it,maybe like in like fall or so.
But he's planning to release all thescentse score and those original effects as special
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features. Okay, great. Ididn't want to point out though, on
that brink Vision Blu ray, thereare a few bonus features on there.
There's an odd black and white versionwith isolated color that's available to watch.
And I asked him about this becauseI picked up the brain Vision. I
felt that after after he told methe history, and I was like,
I got on an eBay for LikenBucks. You know, Okay, I
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don't think brain Vision's gone. Youcan't believe buy anywhere, but sure,
but yeah, he said that thisblack and white version was just an experiment
that he wanted to try, andhe's kind of already turned away from it.
It won't be on any future releases, but it was just kind of
an experience of an experiments of thefunny was trying. And then it has
a few outtakes, like just somemore scenes of all the cosmos and alien
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planets black white style art. Thereis a cool scene and it might be
in the original, but you know, we're that scene of Connie reading the
book about like metaphysics in her hotelroom. This bonus scene has like all
these texts and pictures kind of floatingover her, filling the screen and it
looks really cool. I don't thinkthat was on the tape. Yeah,
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I mean it's kind of like,to me, reminded me of just like,
you know, she's she's inhabited bythis like weird alien, but like
she's soaking in all this knowledge,kind of like Johnny five or something.
It's like that beautiful mind name whereit's like a lot of equations floating around
the shit. But yeah. WillenKurston also directed a few other feature films.
His first film was a sixty minutescience fiction called Wart from nineteen eighty
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four, and he admitted that itwas an extremely amateurist Super eight film,
which he still has and he mayshare it at some point. But the
summary, which I pulled off ofthis site, sounds really interesting to me.
About a woman scientist who attempts totravel back in time to save her
mad artist sister from committing suicide.Ironically, she gets herself killed in an
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auto accident as a result, creatinga fatal time loop, and the irony
is compounded by the fact that hersister was the driver and committed suicide as
a result of the try of killingher own sister to me. That sounds
like a dream for those Justin Bensonand Aaron moorehead guys. You know they
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did all those weird time Yeah,like this sounds like something that they were
just like gush over. Yeah.Then he made a film in nineteen eighty
nine with Bob Richardson also helping outagain, which is called Remember Tomorrow,
which which Kristen said is just totallygone at this point. He again he
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admitted it wasn't very good, buthe still liked the story. It was
two years of just like this hugeamount of work with constructions shot in sixteen
millimeter, but the print was lost. He does have the music. He
did this score. He does amazicfor all his movies, and it's on
Spotify. It's called Remember Tomorrow theLost Score. Anybody's interested in. What's
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interesting about this score for you know, Disembodied is that it's so much of
it is so quiet. Yeah.I recall this movie not have I mean,
it has a score, but whatI love about it is how quiet
it is. There's a barely anydialogue. There's long silences, And I
love that about this movie because normally, you you know, these these things
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can get really crazy the soundtrack wise, but I love a movie that just
takes in science that makes it allmore all the more creepier. I think,
yeah, one hundred person. Imean, I think like the sound
design is I mean, I thinkit's stronger than the score, the Redone,
the score like when there's no music, I like it best. Yeah,
And I know a lot of peoplelike there's a lot of comparing movies,
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especially with Disembodied. You know,there's a lot of movies to compare
this to. But it does,like just the mood it sets with,
like it's like background the ways ofjust like light when blowing or you can
hear like air blowing through pipes withinthat hotel, and it sounds very like
you raise your head, like yeah, even like the shining that has that
just constant drone going on, youkind of feel in this body where it's
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just it takes you, it justsets you into mood. It's just it's
a it's an experience and not likeit's not like you said, any a
soundtrack, but it's just the soundeffects that really work. Yeah, I
agree with that. It's like oneof my favorite It's well, there's many
things that I love about this movie. But that struck me when I first
watched it. Yeah, like justso quiet, but not in a way
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that felt like low budget quiet,if that makes sense. It felt like
intentional quiet. Yeah, for sure. Under but yeah, and then Kirsten
he also more recently he's been makingthese stop motion animation shorts, which they're
on a site he has like aYouTube video. I found them engrossing.
There's no dialogue in these whatsoever.It's again for with these, they're they're
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they're really short, but it's allmood and these like fantastic visuals, very
somilar withis Embodied. He does,he does the music, but it's more
of the sound design that really thatI find very drinking of these shorts.
But yeah, you could watch themall for like forty I think it's four
on his site. Watch them withinforty five minutes. They kind of tie
into the dreamlike quality of Disembodied.Like I noticed theirs similarities a lot of
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like the claymation shapes and stuff that'sin Disembodied, they're in these as well.
Some of this shared like cosmos scenesthat he added to the digital release
of Disembodied. They pop up withoutwithin these as well. Definitely check them
out whom person dot com. Imean, they're cool stuff to watch and
the cast real quick. So thecast's they're unknown actors, most with no
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other film credits other than disembodied.As noted on Kristen's website, they're all
actors from the Reno Area. AnastasiaWolverton place legal of Connie Sprouts, who
is I know we'll talk about alot about her performance in a bit,
but she's amazing in this. HannahCooper plays Trixie Turner, the girl who
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lives next door. Already, saidJim Dieterrickson, who's one of the three
guys that helped make the movie.He plays that creepy night crek clerk who
I just love. I know he'screepy, but I would watch those educational
movies with him. Yeah, exactly, like he's got I mean they're on
film. Like, I appreciate hisdevotion. He might have some hidden gems
in his little spash there. Younever know, it could be something for
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video vortex. Oh yeah. Andthen there were two veterans of the Reno
Area theater at the time, AtricianMatthews, who plays the cleaning lady,
and George Randolph, who plays doctorSigmund Sylvanus. Randolph played a character Jean
Jean and George Clooney's Confessions of aDangerous Mind from two thousand and two.
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I've never seen it. I don'tknow how big the role is, but
he does. He does have acharacter name, and he's also has some
television serie predit series credits. Andthat's it for the cast and crew.
So let's dive in any in yourbook. You also said about to somebody
that it's a hallucinogenic adventure and likeacid, you need a certain mental wherewithal
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to watch it. It's well worthtrying. Yeah, I mean, this
is definitely a move that stays withyou after watching it, But can you
hit on some of the elements thatyou think make it worth scrambling your brains
and your favorite parts? To me, this movie, just like all my
favorite movies out of the book andjust in general, are ones that are
incredibly ambitious. So stop motion animation. I don't know if you've ever done
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it, but it requires a certainlevel of insanity to do. It is
incredibly meticulous and a little brain numbingbut kind of fun. But it is
very repetitive, so it's for someone, for a filmmaker, an independent DII
rifle maker, to decide that,like you know, most of the special
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effects will be stop motion requires alevel of ambition that I will never have
in my life. So right offthe bat that this this embodied is really
great example of you don't need digitaleffects to make something incredibly engaging. You
don't need an explosion, you don'tneed anything. You just need like a
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bunch of clay and like a reallygreat design. And so to me,
it's what you can do with animation, I think. I mean, I've
done I work with a lot ofanimation from my day job. So anything
that requires like sculpting or moving,you know, you're very limited by the
form that you're using, which ofcourse I know that makes sense. But
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like with digitally, you can dowhatever the fuck you want. You know,
you could make you can move thingsfrom here to there, and with
when you're working with something like clayor something with clash, you really don't
have that, So you're very muchlimited and the choices that you make,
I think, and that being sortof really fantastic and unique. So that
to me makes this completely surreal becauseit's like things it's like a beast you've
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never seen before, even though itlooks like a vagina and many of us
have seen one. The way itmoves, the way it moves, and
the way you can manipulate it,Oh my god, this so crazy.
I'm going to keep I'm leaning.It makes it super crazy and fun to
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watch. You really have no ideawhat to expect and how it's going to
change, and I really gravitate towardsthat. So so yes, like an
acid trip. You have no ideawhat's going to happen next, especially when
it comes to the animation, andit's like the colors in it that like
everything about it. It's because it'sso quiet and because it's so surreal.
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Then you have these like crazy animationsand you have some gore or you have
what is the most disgusting bathroom likelike it just it's like an acid trip
that's like almost going to be bad. You know, it's just right on
the edge. And I love thatadventure about it. It's like when you
make that mistake when you're on ascidof looking in the mirror and you're like,
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oh god no, but it alsocan't stop. Yeah, and that's
what it does. I mean someof the effects, like I mean the
claymation, stop motion animation. Thoseare my favorite moments because I think a
lot of people nowadays are kind ofused to, you know, big studios
kind of they're cutting corner. Iguess they're kind of cuting corners. But
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there's a lot of cool looking digitallymade effects. But when you see something
like these clamations, you know,when you see it climbing up, you
know, a leg of a tableand into a jar that's holding a brain,
it's just so endearing in they're myfavorite moments, but the added digital
effects like the cosmos and like thevolcano erupting and a bunch of the lighting
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effects, it made me feel veryyou know Alvaropisari and like late Luigi Katzi
And again, yeah, I'm throwingall these comparisons might annoy some people,
but it's endearing, and it's ina completely different way than just having what
I think is fascinating and so muchhard work and patients and clavation and practical
effects. But when you combine themtogether like this for this updated version,
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it's like what is happening? LikeIt's like it's an acid trip from the
from the eighties and then an acidtrip from like you know, the there's
a lot to take in. Yeah, those little creatures kind of reminded me
too of Grating Clark's without warning,you know, especially where they so shit
yeah, yeah, they on theone shield of the car. There is
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the scene with Martin Landau and it'slike this vagina sucking mouth. Yeah,
why do all creatures have to looklike dicks of vaginas? Like there are
other shapes, Yeah, the universalsymbols that everyone recognizes releasing shit you do?
Yeah yeah, And like like youhad mentioned to the set design and
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construction is one of my favorite partsof this movie too, And it is
kind of a single location. There'ssome exterior shots, but it's all about
the hotel and the bathroom and thenthat boiler in the room. And like
you know, Bob and the directorWilliam Kirsten, they kind of knocked it
out of the park with the budgetthey had and the look at the film.
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Yeah, yeah, they really knowthat it's it's very it's its own,
like little world. There's no sortof hint that it could be taking
place in our world, right,and this is a ninety I mean it
was released in nineteen ninety eight.But and I love nineties horror. I
know, Erica, it's a sortof subject for you. But I love
the hole assetic of nineties, likeit just works for me. But Disembodied
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is way more timeless, Like itcould be made within the last any time
between, like the last like fiftyyears. It's just yeah, but at
that time it's ninety moments. Imean the sound Garden, black holes,
sun morphine effect that pops up ConnieSprout, her I mean, her fashion
is timeless, but it also screams. It's very nineties. Yeah, Like
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I got I walk that hair inmiddle school. I get it, you
know, like I don't, Idon't. You know, Yes, I'm
not a fan of nineties who Iwant to clarify mainstream nineties horror. Like
if you tell me, hey,Erica, there's this horror move from the
nineties, I'm like taking two stepsback. But then if you say it's
this DIY shot on video, I'mtaking three steps forward, you know.
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Yeah, Okay, but god,yeah, I love Connie Sprout's her whole
look, the black leather jacket withthe red lining, the boots with the
white sox, like rocking it yeah, yeah, she is. She is
awesome. There's also the same too, I think where she's she's walking around
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and looking at you know, likesome transformers and stuff, and like taking
off her sunglasses where she's wearing thisring that's very nineties fashion. It's like
this silver ring with like celestial likemoons and stars all over it. And
I was like, I think Ithink I had that ring. Yeah,
I think one of the can goback to the comment about it being so
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timeless, I think, you know, one of the things that it really
quotes these this movie quotes other moviesaround, like you know those fifties movies
with that, you know, theBrain that Wouldn't Die, for example,
Like it definitely has that like fiftiessci fi aliens have come, your brain
is in a jar and has youknow, And then sort of I was
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also thinking of like The Man withTwo Brains with Steve Martin, because there
are moments of like kind of levity, like oh, I need caffeine and
she pours coffee into her brain andI was like, oh, that's a
great gag. And you know somethingthat we seen, you know, in
the eighties comedies that we're kind ofquoting the fifties sci fi. So I
think those elements, plus you know, the practical effects is really what kind
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of makes us such a timeless movie. Yea, Yeah, you're never going
to be sad of a brain thatyou know won't die. I'm just not
going to get side about that.Yeah. Yeah, the fifties, the
nineteen fifties science fiction horror element isdefinitely there, and I think it's real
prominent with doctor Sigmund Sylvagas. Ohyeah, one of my favorite scenes is
(35:30):
when he's listening to the recorder ofI think it's doctor Brainerd speak about the
alien and that whole scene, theway it's filmed, I guess that's when
they borrowed that huge, that sixteenmillimeter film through dialogue scene, but you
can it looks grainy, the color, it's like a green background, kind
of a green room. The wayhe's like overacting, and that feels very
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nineteen fifties science fiction, very big. You love it, yes, So
I I mean, what are someof your favorite elements Erica? Yeah,
I mean there's a lot, butI don't want to get to redundant with
what's already been been kind of talkedabout. The stop motion for sure,
and a lot of that is,you know, nostalgia for me, because
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you've talked before Lance about how wheneveryou have you know, when it comes
to DIY movies, you have aspecial soft spot for it because you and
your friends used to make like,you know, the Crow knockoffs or whatever.
You know. Yeah, but likeI actually tried my hand at stop
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motion when I was a kid,like with my play though. I was
like, all right, here wego, let's try let's try this,
and yeah, it's fucking tedious.It's a pain in it, and you
do all this ship and it's likefive seconds right days later you're all,
okay, I moved his arm.Yeah right, So I gave up pretty
quickly on it. But I wheneverI so whenever I see it, I
definitely appreciate the work that goes intothat. And then just you know birthing,
(37:01):
Yes, those the vaginas, Imean, honestly, however, you
know, whatever she's doing to birththem, it seems much more pleasant than
pushing out some eight pound jam coveredgoblin. So like, and then she
like puts them in a pot andputs them in like you know, like
some soil, and and I'm like, was she starting her own line of
(37:23):
cabbage patch kids. Like this isawesome, you know, you just it's
got all these elements that you're like, I don't know why this is happening,
but I love it. And that'swhat I like. I like being
kept on my toes. I like, you know, like Annie mentioned,
the sort of quietness about it.I like the minimal amount of dialogue in
it as well. I like thatkarate chop at the end when Trixy is
(37:45):
at the lab saving Connie. Yeah, he's like, chop, that's great.
There's that moment where the night clerkKey's got his arm through the wall
reaching after her, and like sheopened all the drawers and it's like rocks
wires close with a hacksaw and hacksawand then she just I'm just like I
(38:07):
love it. Like that. That'show I want my dresser to be packed,
okaos, and instead it's just yogapants. So yeah, that that
scene with the night clerk getting hisarm cut off. I mean, the
gore is there's not a lot inthis movie. I mean there's her like,
you know, giving birth and youknow, throwing stuff in the tub,
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but the gore scenes out are thereare freaking amazing, the night clerk
getting his arm cut off when hegets you know squirted by the you know
the penis protrusion in our face andhe starts melting and his flocky hand just
falls on the grinds. It's good. It's good. And then Connie you
know, jumping into the end.But it's kind of self destructing at the
(38:50):
end, where it's a classic kindof like hammer horror, like like like
their bodies disintegrating before your eyes.Yeah, super great stuff. But like
I said, I did love Ilove Doctor Sigmund Sylvanus, adding that nineteen
fifties kind of sci fi element toit. There is very minimal dialogue,
but the dialogue that's on there isusually pretty humorous, like you know,
the back and forth, especially withlike Trixie, who's very bubbly and kind
(39:15):
of a positive and only friend toConnie. But one of my favorite,
one of my favorite scenes is atthe end when Trixy asks Sylvanus can you
carry a tune? And he's sohe's so literal, like he has no
sense of humor in this doctor,So he's like, what can I carry
it tuned? Yes. As amatter of fact, I happened to a
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song in the baritone with the barbershopcoursette. But I know the irrelevance and
that's when she does like you know, like yeah, the karate chop stuff
happening and stuff. But yeah,I love the performances. Patricia Matthews is
the cleaning lady as soon as shepops up like in her whole kind of
Lucille ball cleaning outit another fifties.That kind of helps make this timeless.
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But she's made me smile, Like, I mean, all these characters.
The night clerk is a lot,Like, yeah, he's a lot,
but his scenes, I mean,they are short scenes. This movie is
very short, you know, Iknow, just can we just take a
pause and appreciate a seventy five minutemovie? Yes? Like five minute?
(40:24):
Oh god? Like, can wejust make all movies that exactly? Do
we need three hours? I don'tthink so. I don't. I don't.
I think you can tell a storyin seventy five minutes. I believe
in us, I think we cando it. I agree, Yeah,
I agree with that. I didask William Kirston with his favorite scenes of
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these films, were what are yourpersonal favorite scenes? And his basically are
the comedic elements. It sounds likethe dialogue driven stuff. You like.
He loves when the night clerk atthe beginning welcomes Connie and he tries to
and the scenes where he tries tointerest her into watching these this collection of
(41:06):
educational documentaries. He loves that.He said he likes the scenes with with
Tricksy and doctor Sylvanus, and thescene in his van where she's being kind
of sarcastic and playful the whole time, but he remains completely serious. It's
just kind of like that Kenny HarrietTune thing. What did he say he
loves Tricksy when she starts talking abouther backstory about the Flower Children. I
(41:28):
think it sounds like he really enjoyedworking with actors from what I could tell
him, because like I was like, well, my favorite scenes when the
Giant wants he falls, tell memore about Yeah, he like, I
think he liked the humor and youknow, trying to make the humor of
Connie's situation with Tricksy kind of youknow, providing the friendship and a sense
(41:51):
of protection, which I get.You know, it kind of moves his
story along and adds the element ofa lot of a lot more people can
watch it instead of just you knowsome are crazy Vagina Monstreet movie. Yeah,
but yeah, those were his favoritescenes, mostly the back and forth
between the characters and the dialogue.That's awesome. Thanks Bill, Yeah,
thank you Bill, thank you formaking this movie. I'm going to try
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it for making it. Seventy fiveminutes. Yeah, that's why I want
to try and reach out and likeconvincing that can I see something more early
work? Yeah? Anybody? Wellmaybe the Blue rad that he mentioned that's
coming out is going to have thatstuff on there, I hope. So
it's special features, like and wetalked, we already got shot the stop
motion animation. But that's all he'sdoing now. As far as the shorts,
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some are like seventeen minutes, someare like four minutes. They all
have this like it's a it's auniversity created because they all are kind of
sequels to each other, and it'sa lot of work, and he does
a fantastic job. Like it's goodstuff. So more seventeen minute stopping,
more emotion animation shorts, Bill,or seventy five minute disembodied type films,
(42:57):
Yes, please love it. Yeah, do you have anything else you want
to talk about? About the film. No, I mean, this is
this is probably the most exhaustive discussionI've ever had. Obviously, we recommend
it to people. Oh oh mygod, yeah, this is this is
of the you know, we watchedI don't know how many hundreds of movies
(43:20):
I lost count and for the nineteennineties book, and not all of them
were great, bubb We'll put thatout there. And the ones that were
great, they are ones that wereexceptional. And to me, this was
exceptional, Like I saw it likein the first I think the first fifteen
minutes, I was like, ohshit, this one's this one's a good
one, this one's like a gem. Yeah. So, and I still
(43:42):
think about it all the time oflike whenever I see a vagina, I
think of saying sticks with you.Yeah, it becomes a memory. It's
like maybe a bad or a goodgood as you keep going back to that.
And now that you wrote in thebook, it's super creative. It's
(44:04):
just an original idea, and I'mso happy that it's out there in the
world. So yeah, recommend ittwelve out of ten, No notes,
one hundred percent. Okay, Sowe had talked about a lot of comparisons.
You could read a bunch of comparisonson letterbox. Like on letterbox reviews,
mine included I kind of throw outsome of my favorite things from some
(44:25):
of my favorite movies because Disembodied islike a melting pot of like my favorite
things. Annie, if you hadto pick a double feature for Disembodied,
where would you go? So youtold me to like prepare, and my
brain was like, oh, soyou know, the obvious one is a
brain that wouldn't die because I don't. I think it's a movie that not
(44:46):
people forgot about, even though it'squoted all the time, just like this
sci fi opus and seeing how itrelates to this movie. But because I'm
me, I want something a littlelike crazier. So I thought like,
well, what is a movie withreally great stop motion? And one I
(45:08):
thought of was Gakadama, which isa Japanese movie from nineteen eighty five.
There's a little beastie. It alsohas something to do with vaginas, and
that one's super fun and goofy andbased off of sort of like a Japanese
folk tale or folklore, so it'skind of got. It has this like
very rich history attached to it.In addition to it being just like a
(45:30):
romping good time. And then anothermovie I thought of that was similarly very
ambitious in DIY is Empire the Dark, which's from Oh yeah, yeah,
I think I think it's from nineteenninety. It's in the it's in the
book. I remember Zach's right upof that one, and I watched it
(45:51):
and that the director of that oneactually actually just passed this year. Yeah,
so I thought of that because thisthat's the movie that's ambitious in a
very in a similar way, butand also has that motion, but it
has a bunch of other stuff init that's completely bad shit. Yeah,
so I thought those two. Ican go on forever with other movies,
(46:12):
but I think Gakanama Empire they're darkbut parallely well with us. Can you
spell? Would you mind h spellingthe first one for our listeners in case
I want to look it up.Oh sure, it's G A K I
D A M A perfect Thank you. We've actually screened it at is it
Terror Tuesday? You know all theseries for me, like yeah together,
(46:35):
but yeah, so I've shown itbefore in Brooklyn. But yeah, I
love it. Yeah, I loveit. It's the movie I will never
get tired of watching again? Awesome? Any other are those of the two
you're sick? Well, you knowthere's and then I was like the surreal
element of the quietness. I thoughtof an anime cursive Kazuoa Mezzo, which
(46:57):
I think Joe played at Terror Tuesdayin Austin. Yeah, yes, yeah,
that has this like quiet sort offoreboding that I think is very similar.
That's intosembodied, like this sort ofquiet, creepy horror, not really
sure what's going to happen, butyou're sort of engrossed. And then another
one is Beyondream's Door from nineteen eightynine. Oh yeah, yeah, which
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I love that one, and thatalso has this like very surreal, dreamy,
like nightmarish vibe. It's vibes,as a kids say, which they
don't even say anymore. So I'mlike totally dating myself, but you know,
it's vibes. It's a mood coot. What about you, Erica?
(47:44):
For a double feature pick, i'menta few different plays. I think they're
like like Annie said, I thinkthere are a few like obvious picks,
and I think some more mainstream horrorones for folks could be you know,
hen and Laughter's brain damage. Yeah, basket case, Yeah, you could
go basketcase. I like that,like the brain part, like with Olmer
(48:05):
and everything like that, and Ilove Almer in the Lincoln's voice, and
so I just I can't maybe likeCronenberg just you know, for the body
of horror element, I think rabid, especially just you know, because you
have female protagonist with a foreign objecton her body that requires blood and or
flesh to survive. So you couldgo the brood, you know, for
the you know, birthing aspect,even I think. But ultimately I landed
(48:28):
on the fifties sci fi part,not necessarily like a Brain in a Jar,
but I went with a movie calledThe Man Without a Body from nineteen
fifty seven, and it's about thisrich guy who has a brain tumor,
and so his solution to that isthat he wants to find the most brilliant
brain that has ever existed, andhe finds a scientist who is able to
(48:52):
bring like a monkey brain back tolife after it had been buried for like
six years. So the rich guygoes to dig up no Stradamis, takes
his head, and then they revivedNostradamis's head so Nostradamus's head is like on
the table, like talking, andthe rich guy is like trying to convince
him, like, no, you'regonna be me now, your brain is
(49:14):
going to go in my body atNostradamus is like, this is against nature
and and it's it's it's great.It's like this fun can't be fifty sci
fi movie. I think it wouldcompliment it really well. It's doesn't quite
have the same going on, youknow, thematically obviously, but the vibe,
as we will say here, isa little bit different. But you
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know, I love those goofy onesand this one I turned on like thinking,
like, we'll see it's another veryshort one. It's under eighty minutes.
Nice. So yeah, you getin and out with a double feature
in under three hours. I mean, you can't ask for less than that,
What about you, Lance? Okay, Yeah, so there were you
know, you know, I thoughtit the same thing I thought of Rabbit
(49:57):
for sure, Cronaberg's rabid eraseer head, you know, the little dialogue,
the sound design, this set's veryindustrial exterior shots. I watched this movie
called Love God from nineteen ninety seven, directed by Frank Rowe. It shares
a lot of the what the funkelements that's in Disembodied, including like weird
word creatures, I Kill Humans.Takes place in a CD hotel with a
(50:19):
bunch of odd occupants. It wouldactually work well because it's completely opposite and
pacing, because it moves at likeone hundred miles per hour. Literally feels
like you're watching it at double speed. I know. I've talked about that,
like with Portrait of Crystal. Ohyeah, but this one is like,
oh my god, Like it wouldturn a lot of people off,
but it would kind of pair wellwith Disembody, which has some deliberate pacing.
(50:45):
But it's a little too much forme. So I actually I asked
my friend Bill what his double feature. I was like, if you could
pick a double feature pick for this, what would it be? And I'm
gonna go ahead and pick it.That way, we share it with everybody
in our socials and stuff. Andthat is it's on a site which was
(51:07):
obbliam Christian dot com, but it'sDaughter of Horror or Dementia from nineteen fifty
five. Really quick, under anhour. I saw this actually, I
think on a thirty five milimeter agfootprint at Dismember the Aplomo. I think
it was twenty eighteen. Nice,that sounds familiar, but yeah. It's
directed by John Parker, starring AdrianBarrett, who is just amazing and completely
(51:32):
captivating, very much like Anastasia Wolverington. And this is made in nineteen fifty
five, but it feels timeless.It feels like it could come out today.
Filmed in black and white. Ithas no dialogue at all whatsoever.
It's about a young woman who,again I said, Adrian Barrett is just
amazing. She wakes up in thishotel and we follow her throughout a single
(51:55):
evening as she reflects on past murdersand murder she's committing throughout the evening.
Short run times, it's just kindof this whole move again with no dialogue.
It's captivating to watch. Like Isaid, it runs under an hour,
so I mean this would be youcould watch these and under almost under
(52:15):
two hours watch Disembodied and throw ondementia. Yeah, but yeah, I'm
picking Bills. Bill said that thiswas the that was the inspiration for him
to write Disembodied. I think itwas initially called Connie's Dream, which kind
of hits more on dementia, buthe said, like a bunch of the
rewrites. I think they named itaberration at one point, but as they
(52:37):
you know, as he worked withthe other guys, they kind of changed
it up a little and it kindof deviated from dementia. But he's basically
this was the inspiration for Disembodied,So I'd start off with that then jump
into Disembodied. Excellent. I loveit. Sweet. I think it's on
twov too, if anybody didn't wantto catch it, I just looked it
up. It is, okay,sweet, all right, Well that's it.
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Annie. Thank you so much fortaking the time to join us and
talking about this movie. Thanks forhaving me, Thanks for all I mean,
thanks for all the movie, allthe work you to help get movies
like this out there and onto people'swatch lists. Because, like I said,
you you put this movie on myradar and I appreciate it and it
makes my life better. So,oh, thank you. Yeah, this
(53:22):
is it's a fun. It's likea pobby and a joy to bring these
movie that to people and awesome excitedthat people are listening and reading. Yeah,
the I think it was one ofyour other recommendations in the last episode
two was was Frost Fighter and uhyeah, that one just got a blu
ray from vinneger Syndrome and like assoon as I announced that release, I
(53:44):
was like, you guys got towatch this. Annie recommended. It's the
fun greatest thing and there's a chillisong and you're gonna be singing along with
it and come on, folks likeFrost Fighter. And I think I converted
a few people, but just afew. That's another little stop motion buddy
in there. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I know a lot of people
a jumping ship on social media,but is there any place that people can
(54:06):
follow you and find your existing workand what you might be currently working on.
Well, Bleeding Skull as always onInstagram. We don't do much on
Twitter, but we're there on Twittertoo, and on Facebook, which I
don't think anyone's on, but youknow, we're there, but we don't
do much. We also have aletterbox account. Of course, Joe runs
a letterbox and he always has likeamazing lists that he puts up. Actually
(54:28):
he does all the social media,true story. If you like the social
media, you love Joe. Yeah, yeah, so definitely check out our
letterbox list because we always put it'snot just stuff that we have on our
site, but we always, likeJoe and I are always talking about like
funny lists like video drugs or youknow, something kind of like what we
(54:49):
talk about when we're just like hangingout and we're like, we should make
that a letterbox list. So wedo a lot of work there too.
Excellent. We'll be sure to putlinks to all of that stuff in show
notes for folks to discover those listsand make sure you're following Bleeding Skull and
Annie and Joe and all the greatwork that they are doing. But yeah,
like Land said, Annie, thanksonce again so much for joining us.
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dot com. Thanks for listening.Erica. Next month is August. No,
(56:00):
no correction, it'st that was likea SmartLess episode, like an introduction,
(56:23):
so what's going on? What's goingon? August? It is our
I say this with every time wedo, like Judexploitation, when we do
Horror gets back when we do JellowJanuary, like it's our favorite month of
the year. Literally every month ofthe year is our favorite month. It's
true, you know, every twoweeks when I get to see my friend
Lance and talk about another horror movieor talk about thirty movies that we watched
(56:46):
or whatever it may be, it'smy favorite time. But I genuinely love
Shaugust because, you know, likeJune Exploitation, we get to step a
little bit outside of the horror boxbecause a lot of these aren't always straight
horror movies. Because sh August isall about Shaw Brothers horror movies, and
a lot of them skirt the lineof fantasy action and horror and things like
(57:09):
that. So best of all worlds. Yes, So in August, both
of our picks are going to beShaw Brothers horror movies. The next movie
that we are going to be coveringis our first movie for Shaugust twenty twenty
three, and we are going tobe discussing the fantasy action horror movie The
Nine Demons from nineteen eighty four,directed by Chang che the Goat. Yeah.
(57:35):
This is a Faustian Shaw brother's tale. So after selling his soul to
the devil, Joey is given thepower to control nine demons who have entered
his body, but which also demandblood. With their help, Joey must
save his childhood friend from a bloodymassacre. This one has some really fun
elements, like down in hell whenhe's selling his soul to the devil,
(57:59):
or the know the equivalent of thatin the Shaw universe. There's obviously going
to be a heavy fantasy element goingon here and lots of action and kung
fu. This one's a lot offun. This is available on YouTube.
There is a DVD out there aswell, so if you like, you
go on letterbox and you see whereit's available. It does link you to
a DVD where you can buy it, but it is on YouTube. I'll
(58:21):
put a link to it in shownotes. It does have subtitles. Got
uploaded recently just in time for shAugust because they knew this was coming,
all right, So nineteen is nineteeneighty four for the next episode. If
you aren't already, you can followthis podcast on Instagram. Facebook and Twitter
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(59:06):
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sanity behind. It can't help younow. Hello, and welcome to another
episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcastwhere we discuss underseening horror films, specifically
those with fewer than one thousand viewson letterboxed. I'm Lance and I'm Erica
and for this episode, we willbe discussing a movie that I watched for
the first time a few years agoafter reading a book called Bleeding Skull,
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the nineteen nineties trash horror Odyssey.And then we had the author of the
book, Annie Troy, Josie andBud Zach Carlson. They joined us for
an episode back in twenty twenty one. It's our most downloaded episode, folks.
Hell Bleeding School is very popular withour listeners and we love them for
that and it makes sense. Imean, that episode was fun. Not
only did they talk about the book, they went over some of their favorite
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personal films in the book, andone movie really stood out to me.
It was one of my favorites thatI had seen so far. And it
was one of Annie's picks. Itwas called or it is called this Disembodied
And there are so many underseen moviesin that book that we can that we
can select better Elsibile to cover onour podcast, you know, having less
than one thousand views on Letterbox,but I always kept Disembodied on the list
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to potentially pick for an episode.And the time has come, so we're
going to be discussing Disembodied from nineteenninety eight, directed by William Kirsten.
And as I mentioned, Annie Troyfrom Bleeding School recommended this film, so
I thought, who better to havejoin us, you know, to talk
about the film. This is aperson who not only put it on my
radar, but really champion this filmwith her writing, and she just made
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it sound better than anything in theworld and early. Yeah, so we'd
like to welcome Annie Choi to thepodcast. Welcome Annie, Hi, thanks
for having me again, Thanks forjoying So yeah, not only do you
make up a huge part and writefor Bleeding School. Yeah, by the
way, nobody's picked up this bookyet. Seriously, folks, come on,
(02:27):
we started enough to pick up thebook in that episode, and if
you haven't already what are you doingwith your life? Yeah, gets sold
out, I know, I know, so you have to find it in
other avenues on the black market.Oh no, it's probably I know,
two dollars. Yeah, I meanthat's worth it. Yeah, it's easily
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my favorite film guide release. LikeI love I love the referencing. Thank
you. But Annie've also written afew a few novels, few books,
Happy birthday or whatever, and shutup your welcome thoughts on life, death
and other inconveniences. Yeah, hasnothing to do with movies. Nothing to
the movies. Would still a funread in your writing. You know that
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you have Bleeding Skull. It's allvery windy and very fun read. Yeah,
thank you. But also video Ortexhas made its return to Elamo draft
House Programming, which I know you'rea part of. Yeah. So Joe,
who's the founder of Bleeding Skull,and my partner, we have both
started doing video Ortex in Austin andin New York City, hopefully expand other
(03:31):
cities. But yeah, we're it'sback, baby. So exciting, Yes,
so much fun, and it's allmysteries. So we don't announce it.
We don't even hint. We kindof hinted. I guess, but
it's really just meant for people withan open mind and you know warriors,
who I call it. It's forwarriors, Like do you have no wada
(03:52):
what you're going to get? SoI love the series. It's been super
fun. I squeaid when I sawa trailer for it is a draft house
for Terror Tuesday, and I sawa Video Vortex trailer and I was like,
yeah, it's back, baby.Yeah, I mean we're working on
it. You know, during thepandemic it went away and we came back,
(04:13):
you know, we didn't have thestuffing for it. So now we're
back and we're like so excited aboutit. And yeah, Also the mystery
element of it really just you know, really opened it up for us and
then which allows other people to likereally experience all the stuff that we've always
wanted to show but not necessarily couldfor various reasons. Sure can you,
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you know, just for folks whomaybe are in Austin or New York and
this is available to them, explainlike what the dip, like how Video
Vortex is different from say Terror Tuesdayor Weird Wednesday or any of the other
regular series that Alamo has. Sure, so Video Vortex. So Tera Tuesday
is mostly obviously horror, and WeirdWednesday is mostly exploitation or anything sort of
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off the beaten path. It couldbe a studio movie that was really not
seen, or a studio movie thatwas like what were you thinking. It
could also be very low budget,you know, Kung fu films from Hong
Kong. I mean it, weirdones. They just kind of spans the
whole universe of cinema, and videoVortex is like the crazy what I like
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to call like the crazy little sisterwho chops the heads off of dolls and
like, you know, attaches usfirecrackers to them. So Video bor Test
is definitely like a more underground something, maybe more cult or something that's not
allowed to be screened or seen.Stuff that was definitely not released necessarily worldwide
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on home videos. Sometimes you couldfind it in overseas or maybe they just
made a few copies here, Andit's we kind of built it around and
like if you came over to myhouse and I got you really high and
I was like you gotta wash this, Oh my god, it's like that.
That's kind of the vibe. It'slike you have no idea what you're
gonna get into. But you knowyou're in good hands by two crazy,
(06:02):
outlandish people who really want to likereally make you enjoy watching these things and
being alive and just knowing that there'sfilms out like this out there that you'll
probably never see if you were justbrowsing on letterboxed or it's certainly not on
any kind of streaming platform. Yeah. Yeah, back in twenty seventeen and
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like through nineteen, I went toa bunch of them, and that was
the first time I saw like DemonWind, Desperation Rising, I mean,
Death Warrior, Sultangler, Yeah,Killing Spree was the first. Oh yeah,
my god, Killing Spree. Yeah, that's just give a taste of
what some of these movies are,like, I mean, they're the best,
(06:44):
yeah for sure. And then thevideo boar takes. In the past
we kind of limited to films thatwere you know, direct to video or
only availble on BHS, and thensince in those have come out on Blu
Ray, right, which is greatfor the movies. But yeah, this
one, we're less limited about theformat and more limit are more expansive around
like what's the kind of underground vibeor what's like the excitement. What's what?
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What can't be screened or what?What is it? Truly special?
Crazy? It could be a documentary, it could be animation, it could
be you know, it just spansall kinds of It's beyond genre. It's
just more like to me, theunderlying scene that that groups all these movies
together is that they are incredibly uniqueand you've never heard of them. I
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mean, if you have kudos,not only the HS, but there might
be prints and stead the probably won'tbe Prince. Yeah. I don't want
to limit anything about what we say, but yeah, there, I don't
think we're doing prints. We're reallydoing like you know, they could be
bootlegs. They could you know,they could be something that was released overseas
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on DVD or something like that.But yeah, so they're different sources for
sure. But it's never I don'tthink it's ever going to be a print.
H Well, it's going to belike the best day of the month,
whatever month. Yeah. Yeah,it's the last Monday of every month.
And we're hopefully going to bring itto other cities. I think San
Francisco is interested, but no promiseis there. Cool? Yeah, so
(08:13):
Video Vortex we're all excited about.And also I mentioned on the Bleeding School
episode, I'm just going to giveanother shout out because I do love the
band that you and Joe makeup takingbecause I love it. I hope you
guys there's plans for more. I'llprobably close out this episode of one of
those songs. Nice. Okay,So Disembodied this is this is the movie
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we're talking about, right. Soit currently has five hundred and forty five
views on Letterbox. It is availableto watch on TV. It seems to
be the same version on the Bluray release sets out there by Brink Vision,
but it's worth noting that the newerrelease has these updated digital effects and
new music, which was pointed outon that that you pointed out any You
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and Joe an episode. So there'sa VHS copy album there released by Dead
Alive Productions if you want to seein the original state. I'd love to
see it in the original state.Also if you have the vhs qs because
I looked. I looked it upand it is on eBay, but it's
like one hundred and eighty five bucks. The VHS market is so insane,
(09:18):
Like I don't it's crazy, butyeah, I think the VHS version of
this is clearly the more superior versionof this. I generally, I think
we all, most of us agreethat when directors go back and have to
be toold things, it tends tonot be as good in my opinion at
least. Yeah, and I canlimitations. I mean, we can go,
we can go like to the GeorgeLucas special editions. Yeah, exactly,
(09:41):
exactly, Yeah, And so theyreally like go hard with these digital
effects for like re releases. You'reright, it loses a little of it's
like a deering effect in the DIYthat I love something right, And I'm
not going to try to advocate forthis in any way, shape or form,
because obviously, like we'd want tosee it in it's original format.
(10:03):
But if you have the means tofind the VHS rip on legal adjacent means,
it is out there. I'm justsaying I don't normally like to advocate
for that. We do want tosupport the artists in there however you can,
But I'm just saying, if youreally want to be a purist and
watch it and you don't want toshell out two hundred dollars for VHS,
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it does exist. So there's thatyeah means there's always a way. There's
a way. Yeah, okay.So we typically do a quick summary in
the film recovering and before I attemptthis, I'm going to try this.
Good job. Also, I'm sayinggood job, like ahead of time,
because I'm just applauding you for evenattempting the summary. And there's a favorite
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line from your review of Disembodied inthe Bleeding Skull Book. It's one of
the last sentences where you where yousay describing Disembodies like describing your acid trip
to someone words fair the actual experience, which it's very true. I mean,
if I try and sound like,you know, the times I did
acid, like when I was inmy teens and twenties, which was like
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what a decade ago on that hill, it's like last year. Yeah yeah,
yeah, we're children here. Yeah. I mean, it's an intimate
experience and it's something that I'll alwaysremember. But if I try and explain
it to somebody, I'll sound likean insane person, right right, So,
which is okay exactly, but notonly you necessarily, what's the goal
of the conversation. So yeah,I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
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I'm gonna sound like an insane personhere as I attempt to give you a
simple quick synopsis of disembody. Doyou want some gummies before you start?
I already started my breakfast, allright? Okay? So we follow Connie
Sprouts, a young woman who's justchecked herself into a shitty hotel with only
one vacant room available, which isin the basement with the boiler. She
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unpacts her luggage, which includes astrange electronic machine and a jarl her own
brain. Her brain is not inher own skull because there's an alien setting
up shop in her head, andwe find this alien organism infests the human
host like a neural parasite, occupyingthe skull cavity while maintaining the host's brain
externally. The body is internally alteredand several new organs are formed, which
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we get to see as Knyie hasthis spitting protrusion on the side of her
face that liquefies human victims to feedon their brains. We also get to
see her give birth to a fewof these these vagina monsters like these.
That's so Connie's on the move ashost to this parasite, but She carries
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with her the Damp, a dreammachine, which is something she created that
prevents the dreams of the alienated dreamsfrom becoming physically real. However, she
starts having issues with this machine andshit starts getting out of hand. During
this time, she makes friends witha girl, the very bubbly personality Trixie,
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who was running the room next door, while a doctor Sigmund Sylvanus from
the Plasmaster Corporation is out to stopand destroy Coddie. That's wow, that
is really good, which is whatthis embodied is, which I love.
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Yeah, mind fucking It makes yourethink everything you just say or think about
the movie. Okay, So thecrew of Disembodies, literally three people okay
for the most part, actually reachedout to the director William Kirsten. Yeah,
Bill as I like to call yourfriends, know, yeah, besties.
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He has the sight of his ownthat it's William Kurston dot com that
I found when I was, youknow, doing some infos and notes for
this this this episode, and focuseslike predominantly on his music. He does
a lot of like orchestrals. Ohmy god, does he him? And
Alpisari. We need to get themtogether exactly. And that's what I do
like about this. I think Ihave some for Sari notes on this.
(14:09):
Okay, okay, same money.But yeah, if anybody wants to check
out his sight, he covers youknow, all his films are on there.
They're not on there, but youknow he has like brief little history
of his filmography and his music.But he was very courteous with his time.
We went back and forth a coupleof times. I just asked him
a few questions that I thought mightbe interesting for the podcast. It was
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very attempted, like he would replythe same day. He loved talking about
Disembodied in his work, so veryvery generous. Man, Oh that's awesome.
But he explained that that Disembodied hasa very checkered history to put him
up. It was first distributed distributedin nineteen ninety eight by a company called
Deadli Productions, and they made somemoney off of it, distributing dhs across
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the American South, selling it toJapan. But Kirsten and the involved filmmakers
they never saw a scent and itappeared to be doing fairly well selling copies
and whatnot. So after a whilereceiving nothing from Dead Alive. He demanded
to get out of the contract,and they sent back the video master,
which of course he had to payfor to get back, and they sent
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it in a paper envelope, whichis very shitty of them. So yeah,
I mean, he basically called themscumbags. He said, you know,
the company since gone out of business. Apparently the CEO got in some
legal trouble, but sup. Yeah. And then he had the film sitting
and storage and a storage cabinet formore than a decade and he finally decided
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to transfer the sixteen milaner negative toHD video in twenty fifteen. He did
a remastered version of it and contactedbreak Vision Films, which is the Bluebear
release sets out there. But sadly, they did pretty much the same thing
that Dead Alive did after distributing onBlu Ray and also streaming that one cent
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paid through their creative accounting. Verysad sucks, he was. He was
very open about it, and headmitted that this is what happens to a
lot of low budget filmmakers. Youknow, if you can't afford an attorney,
usually because you spend everything you havemaking this film, you're basically screwed.
So he pulled it from break Visionand since twenty twenty two, since
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last year, he has it juston film Hub, which is a transparent
mechanical distribution company that just goes tostreaming services and it has earned some money.
Is great for it. Yeah,he's very I mean, it's very
exciting. Obviously he can see allthe reporting, you can see exactly,
you know, all the actual earningswhere it's being distributed. He jokingly said
(16:48):
that he may have a special dinnerexclusively with the earnings he's made so far,
this one's dinner. I mean,what a sweet man he did.
He did. He's very aware ofLetterbox though, and he pointed out that
he's done as recently a large numberof great reviews and people who seem to
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know exactly what he and the involvedcast and crew were going for with Disembodied.
So I mean that seemed very rewardingfor him. It seemed like,
you know, it's fun to seeand it's cool that he's keeping tabs on
all this stuff. But yeah,concerning the production, Disembodied was, like
I said, essentially made by threepeople besides the actors. William Kirsten,
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who wrote it, he directed it, did the effects, stop motion animation,
set designs, editing basically on thehand and everything to get his filmmate,
a man named Jim Dieterrickson who alsoplayed the night clerk in the movies,
and Bob Richardson and Kristen mentioned thatboth of these guys were just brilliant
people, wonderful to work with,have since sadly passed away both of them,
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but he said that did all themakeup effects, literally cooking latex in
the oven of his small house.He also helped a lot with his script
ideas and just overall inspiration, aswell as helping with editing the film,
and Bob Richardson helped with constructing thesets, getting the actors whom he knew
from the Reno Theater area, andjust general production assistants during shooting. Once
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in a while, he said,a couple of people he knew would show
up to pay a section of theset, but for the most part,
Bill and Bob did all the setconstruction by themselves, which I think especially
that hotel room in that fucking bathroom, yeah, O, my god,
that there. And the shooting wasdone mainly with sixteen millimeter Bolex spring wound
cameras, and for all the dialoguescenes they borrowed a big heavy Oricon Sinc.
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Motor sixteen millimeter camera. Damn goodfor them. Yeah, And then
for the HD video release, Kirstendecided what we already kind of talked about.
He decided to reduce some of thedream special effects, using these fluorescent
pastel artwork and some sculpted objects filmeddigitally. You can tell when you watch
these versions they really yeah, it'slike okay, yeah, as we had
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already pointed out, he also redidthe music score, which he can for
this. The new score he composedin a fifties horror sci fi style.
This is his quote, using ViennaSymphonic Library orchestral samples. He said he
still has the old sense score andthe effects as separate scenes, and he
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is working on a new Blu rayrelease that should be out later this year,
didn't you know. I kind ofwas kind of like, what's what's
going on with that? You know, trying to get some more details out
of him. I was I wasn'tprodding too much, but he said,
yeah, I look for it,maybe like in like fall or so.
But he's planning to release all thescentse score and those original effects as special
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features. Okay, great. Ididn't want to point out though, on
that brink Vision Blu ray, thereare a few bonus features on there.
There's an odd black and white versionwith isolated color that's available to watch.
And I asked him about this becauseI picked up the brain Vision. I
felt that after after he told methe history, and I was like,
I got on an eBay for LikenBucks. You know, Okay, I
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don't think brain Vision's gone. Youcan't believe buy anywhere, but sure,
but yeah, he said that thisblack and white version was just an experiment
that he wanted to try, andhe's kind of already turned away from it.
It won't be on any future releases, but it was just kind of
an experience of an experiments of thefunny was trying. And then it has
a few outtakes, like just somemore scenes of all the cosmos and alien
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planets black white style art. Thereis a cool scene and it might be
in the original, but you know, we're that scene of Connie reading the
book about like metaphysics in her hotelroom. This bonus scene has like all
these texts and pictures kind of floatingover her, filling the screen and it
looks really cool. I don't thinkthat was on the tape. Yeah,
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I mean it's kind of like,to me, reminded me of just like,
you know, she's she's inhabited bythis like weird alien, but like
she's soaking in all this knowledge,kind of like Johnny five or something.
It's like that beautiful mind name whereit's like a lot of equations floating around
the shit. But yeah. WillenKurston also directed a few other feature films.
His first film was a sixty minutescience fiction called Wart from nineteen eighty
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four, and he admitted that itwas an extremely amateurist Super eight film,
which he still has and he mayshare it at some point. But the
summary, which I pulled off ofthis site, sounds really interesting to me.
About a woman scientist who attempts totravel back in time to save her
mad artist sister from committing suicide.Ironically, she gets herself killed in an
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auto accident as a result, creatinga fatal time loop, and the irony
is compounded by the fact that hersister was the driver and committed suicide as
a result of the try of killingher own sister to me. That sounds
like a dream for those Justin Bensonand Aaron moorehead guys. You know they
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did all those weird time Yeah,like this sounds like something that they were
just like gush over. Yeah.Then he made a film in nineteen eighty
nine with Bob Richardson also helping outagain, which is called Remember Tomorrow,
which which Kristen said is just totallygone at this point. He again he
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admitted it wasn't very good, buthe still liked the story. It was
two years of just like this hugeamount of work with constructions shot in sixteen
millimeter, but the print was lost. He does have the music. He
did this score. He does amazicfor all his movies, and it's on
Spotify. It's called Remember Tomorrow theLost Score. Anybody's interested in. What's
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interesting about this score for you know, Disembodied is that it's so much of
it is so quiet. Yeah.I recall this movie not have I mean,
it has a score, but whatI love about it is how quiet
it is. There's a barely anydialogue. There's long silences, And I
love that about this movie because normally, you you know, these these things
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can get really crazy the soundtrack wise, but I love a movie that just
takes in science that makes it allmore all the more creepier. I think,
yeah, one hundred person. Imean, I think like the sound
design is I mean, I thinkit's stronger than the score, the Redone,
the score like when there's no music, I like it best. Yeah,
And I know a lot of peoplelike there's a lot of comparing movies,
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especially with Disembodied. You know,there's a lot of movies to compare
this to. But it does,like just the mood it sets with,
like it's like background the ways ofjust like light when blowing or you can
hear like air blowing through pipes withinthat hotel, and it sounds very like
you raise your head, like yeah, even like the shining that has that
just constant drone going on, youkind of feel in this body where it's
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just it takes you, it justsets you into mood. It's just it's
a it's an experience and not likeit's not like you said, any a
soundtrack, but it's just the soundeffects that really work. Yeah, I
agree with that. It's like oneof my favorite It's well, there's many
things that I love about this movie. But that struck me when I first
watched it. Yeah, like justso quiet, but not in a way
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that felt like low budget quiet,if that makes sense. It felt like
intentional quiet. Yeah, for sure. Under but yeah, and then Kirsten
he also more recently he's been makingthese stop motion animation shorts, which they're
on a site he has like aYouTube video. I found them engrossing.
There's no dialogue in these whatsoever.It's again for with these, they're they're
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they're really short, but it's allmood and these like fantastic visuals, very
somilar withis Embodied. He does,he does the music, but it's more
of the sound design that really thatI find very drinking of these shorts.
But yeah, you could watch themall for like forty I think it's four
on his site. Watch them withinforty five minutes. They kind of tie
into the dreamlike quality of Disembodied.Like I noticed theirs similarities a lot of
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like the claymation shapes and stuff that'sin Disembodied, they're in these as well.
Some of this shared like cosmos scenesthat he added to the digital release
of Disembodied. They pop up withoutwithin these as well. Definitely check them
out whom person dot com. Imean, they're cool stuff to watch and
the cast real quick. So thecast's they're unknown actors, most with no
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other film credits other than disembodied.As noted on Kristen's website, they're all
actors from the Reno Area. AnastasiaWolverton place legal of Connie Sprouts, who
is I know we'll talk about alot about her performance in a bit,
but she's amazing in this. HannahCooper plays Trixie Turner, the girl who
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lives next door. Already, saidJim Dieterrickson, who's one of the three
guys that helped make the movie.He plays that creepy night crek clerk who
I just love. I know he'screepy, but I would watch those educational
movies with him. Yeah, exactly, like he's got I mean they're on
film. Like, I appreciate hisdevotion. He might have some hidden gems
in his little spash there. Younever know, it could be something for
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video vortex. Oh yeah. Andthen there were two veterans of the Reno
Area theater at the time, AtricianMatthews, who plays the cleaning lady,
and George Randolph, who plays doctorSigmund Sylvanus. Randolph played a character Jean
Jean and George Clooney's Confessions of aDangerous Mind from two thousand and two.
(26:49):
I've never seen it. I don'tknow how big the role is, but
he does. He does have acharacter name, and he's also has some
television serie predit series credits. Andthat's it for the cast and crew.
So let's dive in any in yourbook. You also said about to somebody
that it's a hallucinogenic adventure and likeacid, you need a certain mental wherewithal
(27:14):
to watch it. It's well worthtrying. Yeah, I mean, this
is definitely a move that stays withyou after watching it, But can you
hit on some of the elements thatyou think make it worth scrambling your brains
and your favorite parts? To me, this movie, just like all my
favorite movies out of the book andjust in general, are ones that are
incredibly ambitious. So stop motion animation. I don't know if you've ever done
(27:37):
it, but it requires a certainlevel of insanity to do. It is
incredibly meticulous and a little brain numbingbut kind of fun. But it is
very repetitive, so it's for someone, for a filmmaker, an independent DII
rifle maker, to decide that,like you know, most of the special
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effects will be stop motion requires alevel of ambition that I will never have
in my life. So right offthe bat that this this embodied is really
great example of you don't need digitaleffects to make something incredibly engaging. You
don't need an explosion, you don'tneed anything. You just need like a
(28:22):
bunch of clay and like a reallygreat design. And so to me,
it's what you can do with animation, I think. I mean, I've
done I work with a lot ofanimation from my day job. So anything
that requires like sculpting or moving,you know, you're very limited by the
form that you're using, which ofcourse I know that makes sense. But
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like with digitally, you can dowhatever the fuck you want. You know,
you could make you can move thingsfrom here to there, and with
when you're working with something like clayor something with clash, you really don't
have that, So you're very muchlimited and the choices that you make,
I think, and that being sortof really fantastic and unique. So that
to me makes this completely surreal becauseit's like things it's like a beast you've
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never seen before, even though itlooks like a vagina and many of us
have seen one. The way itmoves, the way it moves, and
the way you can manipulate it,Oh my god, this so crazy.
I'm going to keep I'm leaning.It makes it super crazy and fun to
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watch. You really have no ideawhat to expect and how it's going to
change, and I really gravitate towardsthat. So so yes, like an
acid trip. You have no ideawhat's going to happen next, especially when
it comes to the animation, andit's like the colors in it that like
everything about it. It's because it'sso quiet and because it's so surreal.
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Then you have these like crazy animationsand you have some gore or you have
what is the most disgusting bathroom likelike it just it's like an acid trip
that's like almost going to be bad. You know, it's just right on
the edge. And I love thatadventure about it. It's like when you
make that mistake when you're on ascidof looking in the mirror and you're like,
(30:17):
oh god no, but it alsocan't stop. Yeah, and that's
what it does. I mean someof the effects, like I mean the
claymation, stop motion animation. Thoseare my favorite moments because I think a
lot of people nowadays are kind ofused to, you know, big studios
kind of they're cutting corner. Iguess they're kind of cuting corners. But
(30:38):
there's a lot of cool looking digitallymade effects. But when you see something
like these clamations, you know,when you see it climbing up, you
know, a leg of a tableand into a jar that's holding a brain,
it's just so endearing in they're myfavorite moments, but the added digital
effects like the cosmos and like thevolcano erupting and a bunch of the lighting
(31:00):
effects, it made me feel veryyou know Alvaropisari and like late Luigi Katzi
And again, yeah, I'm throwingall these comparisons might annoy some people,
but it's endearing, and it's ina completely different way than just having what
I think is fascinating and so muchhard work and patients and clavation and practical
effects. But when you combine themtogether like this for this updated version,
(31:22):
it's like what is happening? LikeIt's like it's an acid trip from the
from the eighties and then an acidtrip from like you know, the there's
a lot to take in. Yeah, those little creatures kind of reminded me
too of Grating Clark's without warning,you know, especially where they so shit
yeah, yeah, they on theone shield of the car. There is
(31:45):
the scene with Martin Landau and it'slike this vagina sucking mouth. Yeah,
why do all creatures have to looklike dicks of vaginas? Like there are
other shapes, Yeah, the universalsymbols that everyone recognizes releasing shit you do?
Yeah yeah, And like like youhad mentioned to the set design and
(32:06):
construction is one of my favorite partsof this movie too, And it is
kind of a single location. There'ssome exterior shots, but it's all about
the hotel and the bathroom and thenthat boiler in the room. And like
you know, Bob and the directorWilliam Kirsten, they kind of knocked it
out of the park with the budgetthey had and the look at the film.
(32:27):
Yeah, yeah, they really knowthat it's it's very it's its own,
like little world. There's no sortof hint that it could be taking
place in our world, right,and this is a ninety I mean it
was released in nineteen ninety eight.But and I love nineties horror. I
know, Erica, it's a sortof subject for you. But I love
the hole assetic of nineties, likeit just works for me. But Disembodied
(32:51):
is way more timeless, Like itcould be made within the last any time
between, like the last like fiftyyears. It's just yeah, but at
that time it's ninety moments. Imean the sound Garden, black holes,
sun morphine effect that pops up ConnieSprout, her I mean, her fashion
is timeless, but it also screams. It's very nineties. Yeah, Like
(33:15):
I got I walk that hair inmiddle school. I get it, you
know, like I don't, Idon't. You know, Yes, I'm
not a fan of nineties who Iwant to clarify mainstream nineties horror. Like
if you tell me, hey,Erica, there's this horror move from the
nineties, I'm like taking two stepsback. But then if you say it's
this DIY shot on video, I'mtaking three steps forward, you know.
(33:39):
Yeah, Okay, but god,yeah, I love Connie Sprout's her whole
look, the black leather jacket withthe red lining, the boots with the
white sox, like rocking it yeah, yeah, she is. She is
awesome. There's also the same too, I think where she's she's walking around
(34:02):
and looking at you know, likesome transformers and stuff, and like taking
off her sunglasses where she's wearing thisring that's very nineties fashion. It's like
this silver ring with like celestial likemoons and stars all over it. And
I was like, I think Ithink I had that ring. Yeah,
I think one of the can goback to the comment about it being so
(34:25):
timeless, I think, you know, one of the things that it really
quotes these this movie quotes other moviesaround, like you know those fifties movies
with that, you know, theBrain that Wouldn't Die, for example,
Like it definitely has that like fiftiessci fi aliens have come, your brain
is in a jar and has youknow, And then sort of I was
(34:46):
also thinking of like The Man withTwo Brains with Steve Martin, because there
are moments of like kind of levity, like oh, I need caffeine and
she pours coffee into her brain andI was like, oh, that's a
great gag. And you know somethingthat we seen, you know, in
the eighties comedies that we're kind ofquoting the fifties sci fi. So I
think those elements, plus you know, the practical effects is really what kind
(35:09):
of makes us such a timeless movie. Yea, Yeah, you're never going
to be sad of a brain thatyou know won't die. I'm just not
going to get side about that.Yeah. Yeah, the fifties, the
nineteen fifties science fiction horror element isdefinitely there, and I think it's real
prominent with doctor Sigmund Sylvagas. Ohyeah, one of my favorite scenes is
(35:30):
when he's listening to the recorder ofI think it's doctor Brainerd speak about the
alien and that whole scene, theway it's filmed, I guess that's when
they borrowed that huge, that sixteenmillimeter film through dialogue scene, but you
can it looks grainy, the color, it's like a green background, kind
of a green room. The wayhe's like overacting, and that feels very
(35:55):
nineteen fifties science fiction, very big. You love it, yes, So
I I mean, what are someof your favorite elements Erica? Yeah,
I mean there's a lot, butI don't want to get to redundant with
what's already been been kind of talkedabout. The stop motion for sure,
and a lot of that is,you know, nostalgia for me, because
(36:15):
you've talked before Lance about how wheneveryou have you know, when it comes
to DIY movies, you have aspecial soft spot for it because you and
your friends used to make like,you know, the Crow knockoffs or whatever.
You know. Yeah, but likeI actually tried my hand at stop
(36:36):
motion when I was a kid,like with my play though. I was
like, all right, here wego, let's try let's try this,
and yeah, it's fucking tedious.It's a pain in it, and you
do all this ship and it's likefive seconds right days later you're all,
okay, I moved his arm.Yeah right, So I gave up pretty
quickly on it. But I wheneverI so whenever I see it, I
definitely appreciate the work that goes intothat. And then just you know birthing,
(37:01):
Yes, those the vaginas, Imean, honestly, however, you
know, whatever she's doing to birththem, it seems much more pleasant than
pushing out some eight pound jam coveredgoblin. So like, and then she
like puts them in a pot andputs them in like you know, like
some soil, and and I'm like, was she starting her own line of
(37:23):
cabbage patch kids. Like this isawesome, you know, you just it's
got all these elements that you're like, I don't know why this is happening,
but I love it. And that'swhat I like. I like being
kept on my toes. I like, you know, like Annie mentioned,
the sort of quietness about it.I like the minimal amount of dialogue in
it as well. I like thatkarate chop at the end when Trixy is
(37:45):
at the lab saving Connie. Yeah, he's like, chop, that's great.
There's that moment where the night clerkKey's got his arm through the wall
reaching after her, and like sheopened all the drawers and it's like rocks
wires close with a hacksaw and hacksawand then she just I'm just like I
(38:07):
love it. Like that. That'show I want my dresser to be packed,
okaos, and instead it's just yogapants. So yeah, that that
scene with the night clerk getting hisarm cut off. I mean, the
gore is there's not a lot inthis movie. I mean there's her like,
you know, giving birth and youknow, throwing stuff in the tub,
(38:28):
but the gore scenes out are thereare freaking amazing, the night clerk
getting his arm cut off when hegets you know squirted by the you know
the penis protrusion in our face andhe starts melting and his flocky hand just
falls on the grinds. It's good. It's good. And then Connie you
know, jumping into the end.But it's kind of self destructing at the
(38:50):
end, where it's a classic kindof like hammer horror, like like like
their bodies disintegrating before your eyes.Yeah, super great stuff. But like
I said, I did love Ilove Doctor Sigmund Sylvanus, adding that nineteen
fifties kind of sci fi element toit. There is very minimal dialogue,
but the dialogue that's on there isusually pretty humorous, like you know,
the back and forth, especially withlike Trixie, who's very bubbly and kind
(39:15):
of a positive and only friend toConnie. But one of my favorite,
one of my favorite scenes is atthe end when Trixy asks Sylvanus can you
carry a tune? And he's sohe's so literal, like he has no
sense of humor in this doctor,So he's like, what can I carry
it tuned? Yes. As amatter of fact, I happened to a
(39:37):
song in the baritone with the barbershopcoursette. But I know the irrelevance and
that's when she does like you know, like yeah, the karate chop stuff
happening and stuff. But yeah,I love the performances. Patricia Matthews is
the cleaning lady as soon as shepops up like in her whole kind of
Lucille ball cleaning outit another fifties.That kind of helps make this timeless.
(40:02):
But she's made me smile, Like, I mean, all these characters.
The night clerk is a lot,Like, yeah, he's a lot,
but his scenes, I mean,they are short scenes. This movie is
very short, you know, Iknow, just can we just take a
pause and appreciate a seventy five minutemovie? Yes? Like five minute?
(40:24):
Oh god? Like, can wejust make all movies that exactly? Do
we need three hours? I don'tthink so. I don't. I don't.
I think you can tell a storyin seventy five minutes. I believe
in us, I think we cando it. I agree, Yeah,
I agree with that. I didask William Kirston with his favorite scenes of
(40:45):
these films, were what are yourpersonal favorite scenes? And his basically are
the comedic elements. It sounds likethe dialogue driven stuff. You like.
He loves when the night clerk atthe beginning welcomes Connie and he tries to
and the scenes where he tries tointerest her into watching these this collection of
(41:06):
educational documentaries. He loves that.He said he likes the scenes with with
Tricksy and doctor Sylvanus, and thescene in his van where she's being kind
of sarcastic and playful the whole time, but he remains completely serious. It's
just kind of like that Kenny HarrietTune thing. What did he say he
loves Tricksy when she starts talking abouther backstory about the Flower Children. I
(41:28):
think it sounds like he really enjoyedworking with actors from what I could tell
him, because like I was like, well, my favorite scenes when the
Giant wants he falls, tell memore about Yeah, he like, I
think he liked the humor and youknow, trying to make the humor of
Connie's situation with Tricksy kind of youknow, providing the friendship and a sense
(41:51):
of protection, which I get.You know, it kind of moves his
story along and adds the element ofa lot of a lot more people can
watch it instead of just you knowsome are crazy Vagina Monstreet movie. Yeah,
but yeah, those were his favoritescenes, mostly the back and forth
between the characters and the dialogue.That's awesome. Thanks Bill, Yeah,
thank you Bill, thank you formaking this movie. I'm going to try
(42:13):
it for making it. Seventy fiveminutes. Yeah, that's why I want
to try and reach out and likeconvincing that can I see something more early
work? Yeah? Anybody? Wellmaybe the Blue rad that he mentioned that's
coming out is going to have thatstuff on there, I hope. So
it's special features, like and wetalked, we already got shot the stop
motion animation. But that's all he'sdoing now. As far as the shorts,
(42:34):
some are like seventeen minutes, someare like four minutes. They all
have this like it's a it's auniversity created because they all are kind of
sequels to each other, and it'sa lot of work, and he does
a fantastic job. Like it's goodstuff. So more seventeen minute stopping,
more emotion animation shorts, Bill,or seventy five minute disembodied type films,
(42:57):
Yes, please love it. Yeah, do you have anything else you want
to talk about? About the film. No, I mean, this is
this is probably the most exhaustive discussionI've ever had. Obviously, we recommend
it to people. Oh oh mygod, yeah, this is this is
of the you know, we watchedI don't know how many hundreds of movies
(43:20):
I lost count and for the nineteennineties book, and not all of them
were great, bubb We'll put thatout there. And the ones that were
great, they are ones that wereexceptional. And to me, this was
exceptional, Like I saw it likein the first I think the first fifteen
minutes, I was like, ohshit, this one's this one's a good
one, this one's like a gem. Yeah. So, and I still
(43:42):
think about it all the time oflike whenever I see a vagina, I
think of saying sticks with you.Yeah, it becomes a memory. It's
like maybe a bad or a goodgood as you keep going back to that.
And now that you wrote in thebook, it's super creative. It's
(44:04):
just an original idea, and I'mso happy that it's out there in the
world. So yeah, recommend ittwelve out of ten, No notes,
one hundred percent. Okay, Sowe had talked about a lot of comparisons.
You could read a bunch of comparisonson letterbox. Like on letterbox reviews,
mine included I kind of throw outsome of my favorite things from some
(44:25):
of my favorite movies because Disembodied islike a melting pot of like my favorite
things. Annie, if you hadto pick a double feature for Disembodied,
where would you go? So youtold me to like prepare, and my
brain was like, oh, soyou know, the obvious one is a
brain that wouldn't die because I don't. I think it's a movie that not
(44:46):
people forgot about, even though it'squoted all the time, just like this
sci fi opus and seeing how itrelates to this movie. But because I'm
me, I want something a littlelike crazier. So I thought like,
well, what is a movie withreally great stop motion? And one I
(45:08):
thought of was Gakadama, which isa Japanese movie from nineteen eighty five.
There's a little beastie. It alsohas something to do with vaginas, and
that one's super fun and goofy andbased off of sort of like a Japanese
folk tale or folklore, so it'skind of got. It has this like
very rich history attached to it.In addition to it being just like a
(45:30):
romping good time. And then anothermovie I thought of that was similarly very
ambitious in DIY is Empire the Dark, which's from Oh yeah, yeah,
I think I think it's from nineteenninety. It's in the it's in the
book. I remember Zach's right upof that one, and I watched it
(45:51):
and that the director of that oneactually actually just passed this year. Yeah,
so I thought of that because thisthat's the movie that's ambitious in a
very in a similar way, butand also has that motion, but it
has a bunch of other stuff init that's completely bad shit. Yeah,
so I thought those two. Ican go on forever with other movies,
(46:12):
but I think Gakanama Empire they're darkbut parallely well with us. Can you
spell? Would you mind h spellingthe first one for our listeners in case
I want to look it up.Oh sure, it's G A K I
D A M A perfect Thank you. We've actually screened it at is it
Terror Tuesday? You know all theseries for me, like yeah together,
(46:35):
but yeah, so I've shown itbefore in Brooklyn. But yeah, I
love it. Yeah, I loveit. It's the movie I will never
get tired of watching again? Awesome? Any other are those of the two
you're sick? Well, you knowthere's and then I was like the surreal
element of the quietness. I thoughtof an anime cursive Kazuoa Mezzo, which
(46:57):
I think Joe played at Terror Tuesdayin Austin. Yeah, yes, yeah,
that has this like quiet sort offoreboding that I think is very similar.
That's intosembodied, like this sort ofquiet, creepy horror, not really
sure what's going to happen, butyou're sort of engrossed. And then another
one is Beyondream's Door from nineteen eightynine. Oh yeah, yeah, which
(47:21):
I love that one, and thatalso has this like very surreal, dreamy,
like nightmarish vibe. It's vibes,as a kids say, which they
don't even say anymore. So I'mlike totally dating myself, but you know,
it's vibes. It's a mood coot. What about you, Erica?
(47:44):
For a double feature pick, i'menta few different plays. I think they're
like like Annie said, I thinkthere are a few like obvious picks,
and I think some more mainstream horrorones for folks could be you know,
hen and Laughter's brain damage. Yeah, basket case, Yeah, you could
go basketcase. I like that,like the brain part, like with Olmer
(48:05):
and everything like that, and Ilove Almer in the Lincoln's voice, and
so I just I can't maybe likeCronenberg just you know, for the body
of horror element, I think rabid, especially just you know, because you
have female protagonist with a foreign objecton her body that requires blood and or
flesh to survive. So you couldgo the brood, you know, for
the you know, birthing aspect,even I think. But ultimately I landed
(48:28):
on the fifties sci fi part,not necessarily like a Brain in a Jar,
but I went with a movie calledThe Man Without a Body from nineteen
fifty seven, and it's about thisrich guy who has a brain tumor,
and so his solution to that isthat he wants to find the most brilliant
brain that has ever existed, andhe finds a scientist who is able to
(48:52):
bring like a monkey brain back tolife after it had been buried for like
six years. So the rich guygoes to dig up no Stradamis, takes
his head, and then they revivedNostradamis's head so Nostradamus's head is like on
the table, like talking, andthe rich guy is like trying to convince
him, like, no, you'regonna be me now, your brain is
(49:14):
going to go in my body atNostradamus is like, this is against nature
and and it's it's it's great.It's like this fun can't be fifty sci
fi movie. I think it wouldcompliment it really well. It's doesn't quite
have the same going on, youknow, thematically obviously, but the vibe,
as we will say here, isa little bit different. But you
(49:36):
know, I love those goofy onesand this one I turned on like thinking,
like, we'll see it's another veryshort one. It's under eighty minutes.
Nice. So yeah, you getin and out with a double feature
in under three hours. I mean, you can't ask for less than that,
What about you, Lance? Okay, Yeah, so there were you
know, you know, I thoughtit the same thing I thought of Rabbit
(49:57):
for sure, Cronaberg's rabid eraseer head, you know, the little dialogue,
the sound design, this set's veryindustrial exterior shots. I watched this movie
called Love God from nineteen ninety seven, directed by Frank Rowe. It shares
a lot of the what the funkelements that's in Disembodied, including like weird
word creatures, I Kill Humans.Takes place in a CD hotel with a
(50:19):
bunch of odd occupants. It wouldactually work well because it's completely opposite and
pacing, because it moves at likeone hundred miles per hour. Literally feels
like you're watching it at double speed. I know. I've talked about that,
like with Portrait of Crystal. Ohyeah, but this one is like,
oh my god, Like it wouldturn a lot of people off,
but it would kind of pair wellwith Disembody, which has some deliberate pacing.
(50:45):
But it's a little too much forme. So I actually I asked
my friend Bill what his double feature. I was like, if you could
pick a double feature pick for this, what would it be? And I'm
gonna go ahead and pick it.That way, we share it with everybody
in our socials and stuff. Andthat is it's on a site which was
(51:07):
obbliam Christian dot com, but it'sDaughter of Horror or Dementia from nineteen fifty
five. Really quick, under anhour. I saw this actually, I
think on a thirty five milimeter agfootprint at Dismember the Aplomo. I think
it was twenty eighteen. Nice,that sounds familiar, but yeah. It's
directed by John Parker, starring AdrianBarrett, who is just amazing and completely
(51:32):
captivating, very much like Anastasia Wolverington. And this is made in nineteen fifty
five, but it feels timeless.It feels like it could come out today.
Filmed in black and white. Ithas no dialogue at all whatsoever.
It's about a young woman who,again I said, Adrian Barrett is just
amazing. She wakes up in thishotel and we follow her throughout a single
(51:55):
evening as she reflects on past murdersand murder she's committing throughout the evening.
Short run times, it's just kindof this whole move again with no dialogue.
It's captivating to watch. Like Isaid, it runs under an hour,
so I mean this would be youcould watch these and under almost under
(52:15):
two hours watch Disembodied and throw ondementia. Yeah, but yeah, I'm
picking Bills. Bill said that thiswas the that was the inspiration for him
to write Disembodied. I think itwas initially called Connie's Dream, which kind
of hits more on dementia, buthe said, like a bunch of the
rewrites. I think they named itaberration at one point, but as they
(52:37):
you know, as he worked withthe other guys, they kind of changed
it up a little and it kindof deviated from dementia. But he's basically
this was the inspiration for Disembodied,So I'd start off with that then jump
into Disembodied. Excellent. I loveit. Sweet. I think it's on
twov too, if anybody didn't wantto catch it, I just looked it
up. It is, okay,sweet, all right, Well that's it.
(52:58):
Annie. Thank you so much fortaking the time to join us and
talking about this movie. Thanks forhaving me, Thanks for all I mean,
thanks for all the movie, allthe work you to help get movies
like this out there and onto people'swatch lists. Because, like I said,
you you put this movie on myradar and I appreciate it and it
makes my life better. So,oh, thank you. Yeah, this
(53:22):
is it's a fun. It's likea pobby and a joy to bring these
movie that to people and awesome excitedthat people are listening and reading. Yeah,
the I think it was one ofyour other recommendations in the last episode
two was was Frost Fighter and uhyeah, that one just got a blu
ray from vinneger Syndrome and like assoon as I announced that release, I
(53:44):
was like, you guys got towatch this. Annie recommended. It's the
fun greatest thing and there's a chillisong and you're gonna be singing along with
it and come on, folks likeFrost Fighter. And I think I converted
a few people, but just afew. That's another little stop motion buddy
in there. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I know a lot of people
a jumping ship on social media,but is there any place that people can
(54:06):
follow you and find your existing workand what you might be currently working on.
Well, Bleeding Skull as always onInstagram. We don't do much on
Twitter, but we're there on Twittertoo, and on Facebook, which I
don't think anyone's on, but youknow, we're there, but we don't
do much. We also have aletterbox account. Of course, Joe runs
a letterbox and he always has likeamazing lists that he puts up. Actually
(54:28):
he does all the social media,true story. If you like the social
media, you love Joe. Yeah, yeah, so definitely check out our
letterbox list because we always put it'snot just stuff that we have on our
site, but we always, likeJoe and I are always talking about like
funny lists like video drugs or youknow, something kind of like what we
(54:49):
talk about when we're just like hangingout and we're like, we should make
that a letterbox list. So wedo a lot of work there too.
Excellent. We'll be sure to putlinks to all of that stuff in show
notes for folks to discover those listsand make sure you're following Bleeding Skull and
Annie and Joe and all the greatwork that they are doing. But yeah,
like Land said, Annie, thanksonce again so much for joining us.
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dot com. Thanks for listening.Erica. Next month is August. No,
(56:00):
no correction, it'st that was likea SmartLess episode, like an introduction,
(56:23):
so what's going on? What's goingon? August? It is our
I say this with every time wedo, like Judexploitation, when we do
Horror gets back when we do JellowJanuary, like it's our favorite month of
the year. Literally every month ofthe year is our favorite month. It's
true, you know, every twoweeks when I get to see my friend
Lance and talk about another horror movieor talk about thirty movies that we watched
(56:46):
or whatever it may be, it'smy favorite time. But I genuinely love
Shaugust because, you know, likeJune Exploitation, we get to step a
little bit outside of the horror boxbecause a lot of these aren't always straight
horror movies. Because sh August isall about Shaw Brothers horror movies, and
a lot of them skirt the lineof fantasy action and horror and things like
(57:09):
that. So best of all worlds. Yes, So in August, both
of our picks are going to beShaw Brothers horror movies. The next movie
that we are going to be coveringis our first movie for Shaugust twenty twenty
three, and we are going tobe discussing the fantasy action horror movie The
Nine Demons from nineteen eighty four,directed by Chang che the Goat. Yeah.
(57:35):
This is a Faustian Shaw brother's tale. So after selling his soul to
the devil, Joey is given thepower to control nine demons who have entered
his body, but which also demandblood. With their help, Joey must
save his childhood friend from a bloodymassacre. This one has some really fun
elements, like down in hell whenhe's selling his soul to the devil,
(57:59):
or the know the equivalent of thatin the Shaw universe. There's obviously going
to be a heavy fantasy element goingon here and lots of action and kung
fu. This one's a lot offun. This is available on YouTube.
There is a DVD out there aswell, so if you like, you
go on letterbox and you see whereit's available. It does link you to
a DVD where you can buy it, but it is on YouTube. I'll
(58:21):
put a link to it in shownotes. It does have subtitles. Got
uploaded recently just in time for shAugust because they knew this was coming,
all right, So nineteen is nineteeneighty four for the next episode. If
you aren't already, you can followthis podcast on Instagram. Facebook and Twitter
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(59:06):
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And we'll see you back for Shaugustbooks. So nice steak, see
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