October 22, 2025 • 53 mins
Jack's Back! No, we're not covering the same movie twice, but we ARE covering another Jack the Ripper film, this one a low-budget one from the backwoods of Alabama but with the effects of a big city horror movie.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Prepare yourself for the terror, the prison of madness.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We have few inter and Nonritter. Welcome to Unsung Horrus.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
With Lance.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
And Dereka.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Leave all your sanity behind. It can't help you now.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcast where
we discuss underseen horror films, specifically those which have fewer
than one thousand views on letterboxed. I'm Erica, I'm Lance.
Happy October.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Happy October.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
We are in the middle of the month here, Lance's
birthday just past. Happy Birthday again. I know I said
it last episode.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you. Thank you for people on Discord wishing me
a happy birthday too, and messages on Instagram. It was very,
very nice. Made my day.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Nice to hear. So October always means our Horror gives
Back Charity challenge. So I'm doing well this month. I
only have about ten movies left to go and it's
October nineteenth, so I'm doing good.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm not. I got some catching up to do, but
I started very early.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I started mid September, so I.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Think I'll be finagling some stuff like you know, this episode.
I could probably this movie we can I can fit in.
I don't think I have a fanom of Hollywood and
there I could throw some of there.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
I put both of our episodes in my list. What
depending on what your next pick is, I might throw
that in there too. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, it could fit in some categories.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Okay, well, this one definitely fits in a few categories.
But before we get into that, I did want to
remind folks about my Miskatonic Institute of Horror Studies lecture
that is coming up on November eighteenth, That is a Tuesday.
It is online, so anybody can sign up for it.
I think it's like ten bucks, and it's at a
(02:08):
weird time. It's at you know, two pm in the afternoon.
I think that's for like because ms Katonic has like
their London branch, so I think they try to do
it so people from there can jump in and watch it. Yeah, anyway,
because it's online, if you register for it, you'll still
have access to it for a couple of days after
that if you can't watch it in real time. I
(02:30):
hope some folks can join in real time because you know,
it'd be nice to see some friendly names in there
and you know, hopefully not get bombarded with questions from
people questioning my sanity.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So oh, that's going to happen regardless.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
But yeah, it's the presentations coming together. Well, I'm at
about seventy five slides, lots of clips to watch, and
even if I've said it before, even if you have
the book, there's going to be a lot of new
and in there some movies that are in volume two
that I'm working on, So I'll again put a link
in show notes for anyone who is interested. One movie
(03:10):
that unfortunately is not in the book but still has
plenty of great things to talk about is today's episode,
and that is Fatal Exposure from nineteen eighty nine. As
of this recording, it has five hundred and forty views
on Letterboxed and you can watch this one on YouTube.
So Fatal Exposure is about Jack Rippington. He is the
(03:31):
great grandson of Jack the Ripper. In present day, he
is a photographer who murders people, takes their photo, and
then drinks their blood in order to increase his sexual potency.
He meets this girl Erica, and no relation. No, no,
(03:54):
she's not doing any favors to other Erica's.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean she kicks some ass at the end at
the end.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But she's not very smart. So it meets Erica. He
decides that, you know, she's worthy of living and in
fact to be his girlfriend because he asks her three
very stupid questions and she's into it. So he uses
Erica to hire female models to murder and add to
(04:20):
his blood viagra stockpile.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And not a very subtle name change for Jack t
ripping Tin, not at all.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
It's a great name though, Oh it is, like I
could see it almost works as a porn name.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Too, and I got porn vibes from this. I was
surprised looking at the cast that these were an adult
adult film stars.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah, I mean if you even if you just look
at the poster for this, it's like a horror erotic
thriller because of that, just like you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And it's horny.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Oh it's very hardy.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yes, that's that's under my favorite notes.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
All right. So Fatal Exposure was directed and shot by
Peter B. Good, not to be confused with Johnny be.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Good way down in Alabama out in letgommo. Ree, I
got nothing.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So he hasn't directed very many films. One other in
his filmography is Force on Thunder Mountain from nineteen seventy eight.
I did not watch this. Sam Panico, our friend from
B and S about movies, Driving Asylum, he has of
course seen this because he has seen everything, and he
has a review on his site. So I'm just going
to point folks to that in case you're interested in it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That could also be a very soft core horror.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Oh yeah, like that could have been like, is this
you know? Is it a porn? Like it's one of
those one of those games that you play. Screenwriter was
Christopher Painter, who has zero credits other than this one.
And really when it comes to the crew though, I
think the star here is the makeup effects, and that
(06:05):
is Scott Coulter. He's got a number of credits that
are going to be familiar to our audience. In his
filmography Nightmare and Elm Street four, Jason takes Manhattan Tales
from the Crypt Demon Knights.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Some of the best practical effects in nineties.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, Demon Wind Class of Newcomb High prom Night three.
Scott Culter also has done work covering the demon horns
on his sister Anne whenever she makes public appearances.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's good. I was like, are they really related?
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I don't know, but I do think that the one
credit that stands out here, at least to me, and
I know what it is because I feel like the
podcast has come full circle because of your background with
this film and your like whole s OV thing when
you were a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The Crow, Oh, the Crow. Okay, that wasn't the movie,
but okay, I did see his crow. I got very
excited when I saw that. Yeah, we did a quick
summarized remake of The Crow as Captain Tripp's television c
Double TV. There's a skid out there where my buddy
Dave is Eric Draven. He's the Crow and who am I?
(07:23):
I did most of the camera work. Yeah, no, I
was the I wasn't like the our friend Darren was
the fire one of the fired up guys. Yeah it was.
It was brutal.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Okay, So what was the movie that you were excited about.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He did the special effects or worked with the special
effects department for Slumber Party Massacre two, which I think
is one of the best sequels ever made. Yeah, right
or right right after Maniac Coup two, probably it's.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yeah, it's up there. Slumber Party Mascar two is super fun.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, the special effects makeup are fucking awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah, I mean this is you know, this is around
the same time as as a few of these films.
You know, it's not too far off. So I'm not
sure how he ended up on this film, but like
that is that was the main like stand out to me,
and like the reason that I wanted to talk about,
Like there's plenty to talk about, but the gore and
(08:23):
this is so great for the low budgetness of the film.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, and it's I mean, we'll talk about
I'm sure the kills, but every time one popped up,
I'm like, Okay, this one's better. This one. They just
kept out doing each other. Yeah, as soon as they
start it, they don't stop. You're right. One of the best,
if not the best, part about this movie. Yeah, except
for the sex scenes.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
There's a lot of boobies, all right, So speaking of boobies.
Erica is played by Ena Henderson now na O'Rourke. She
was only in a couple of movies during this time,
the other being what looks to be an erotic ghost
thriller called Molly in the Ghost from nineteen ninety one.
(09:09):
She had a few television credits, and then she popped
back up recently in Farm to fork to love in
twenty twenty one, hashtag blessed the movie twenty twenty two,
and there is a monster from twenty twenty four, so
she looks like she's still acting, but not enough for
it to be like her full time career.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So yeah, Molly and the Ghost was one I've actually
had in a potential list for an episode, which is funny.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Oh we're going to get into erotic ghost thriller entire.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Toory directed by Don Jones, who also Schoolgirls and Chains.
Oh oh yeah, okay, forrests like that might be a
fun pick.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Mean, I don't know, Maybe we only need one Ina
Henderson movie in our you never know.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I mean it looks I saw ratings Rod Lot, you know,
Flick Attack. He gave it five five stars, but it
was mainly because he was like, I just need more
people to see this, not necessarily because it's obviously not
a five star movie. But you never know though. I
respect that though. You know, when either certain people I
trust on letterbox and if he's like, you should see
(10:14):
this movie, then okay, I'll give him that. Yeah, respect,
I'll Speaking of boobies, Julie Austen plays Marybeth. She's the
girl in the opening that is killed in the you know,
the makeout in the truck.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh great cold, yeah, great opening. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Now her her main film that she's been in is
the main Girl in Elves from nineteen eighty nine, and
where her little brother also talked about her boobs in
that film. If everyone's seen it recently, you'll remember that part.
She was also in another film that I was going
to watch, but then I felt like I really wanted
(10:50):
to save it for June's Ploitation for next year. It's
Extreme Justice from nineteen ninety three. Listen to this cast
lou Diamond, Phillips's got, Glenn Yaffakato, Andrew Divoff, Stephen root
Ed Louder So, I'm yeah, like Extreme Justice. I'm definitely
saving this for June's Plitation.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That was additional directing by Spiro Risato. So he's the
class of ninety nine. Yea watch list.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah. But our main guy in this film is played
by Blake I think it's pronounced Bonner b a h
n e R. Jack Rippington. So he was in a
Chuck Vincent film. I watched this when we covered Deranged,
and that's thrilled to death. I gave it three stars.
I don't remember it too well, but three stars is
(11:40):
pretty good in my book.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So yeah, this student total. I mean, the whole cast
just screams Chuck Vincent vibes as I was watching this.
This could be a Chuck Vincent like bad Blood horror
type movie.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Yeah, for sure. Bonner was also in a women in
prison film called Caged Fury from nineteen ninety that looks
like another good June's plait pick for anyone who's getting
their lists ready super early. He was in another one too. Again.
This was another that I was like, oh, maybe I
should watch that called Wizards of the Demon Sword, which
(12:12):
has Michael Berryman featured very prominently on the poster, but
is deep in the credits, so he's probably in one scene. However, Sam,
again getting back to Sam Pianaco, he gave it a
half star, so I was like, maybe not sounds like
maybe it only has a good title, because like, how
cool is that Wizards of the Demon Sword.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I have Rust Hamblin's in it too, Yeah, like I
so I can see the appeal.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah, so I see the appeal, but I was not
willing to give that my time this week because it's
it's been a hectic week. So but yeah, like pretty
short and sweet as far as cast and crew goes.
Pretty much everyone else that's in this film has only
been in this film, which I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Maybe they're like, you know, let's just grab some locals.
Like it definitely feels that way, like with the sheriff.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And the girl on the bike.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, girl on the bike, the couple that comes for
the uh.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Other religious Yeah, welcome.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
To the neighborhood. Who are they marry?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, Maggie and Maggie and Jeff.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Who can I just say like the whole welcome to
the neighborhood thing, Like I understand etiquette and like being welcoming,
but honestly, to me, the best neighbors are the neighbors
who never say Hi.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah. I think it's I mean, it's changed in decades
and decades. Yeah, and I feel like it's only something
that happens in the movies.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, but I can see this is more believable because
it's religious people. That's the type of people that are
like welcome.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, They're they're coming over, inviting him to church.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Then she immediately just she wants to fuck.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I mean, she's she's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The religious folks are freaky.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
They are they're the you know that repression, well that
builds up and when they see an opportunity, they just
they jump right on it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So literally, I've been there, I know from experience.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
We'll get back to Jeff and Maggie and we'll go
through the desk, but I do want to first talk
about Jack's three questions. Okay, so his three questions that
he always asks a woman because he's trying to find
his baby mama, which he's very adamant about, like having
(14:32):
a son. So I also wonder like, well, what if
she gives him a daughter? Anyway, his three questions are,
what do you think about death and dying? What do
you think when you hear the word blood? And have
you ever considered murdering someone? And I mean I understand,
like I don't know, just it's so odd, and I
(14:56):
know it's trying to play up the whole like he's
obsessed with blood for a sexual potency. I mean I
might be if I was out here doing what he
was doing, I might be asking questions like how do
you feel about turning in the person that you love?
If they were doing something wrong, like stuff like that,
you know, Like, I mean, I have my own questions
(15:16):
that are like deal breakers.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
But his questions he didn't think get specific and be like,
what do you think of Jack the Ripper, Like, yeah,
start giving you know, seeing how morbid they are. But
you're right, it should be who's gonna like help me
out with this? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
So I don't know. The three questions are just there.
They're so odd.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And if somebody asked me, what do you think about
when you hear the word blood, I would be My
answer would be April.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Showers the blood. Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The movie.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Come on, we'll be like, let me tell you about
some movies that we have watched and then go on
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I did like I think, and some of the goofy
narrations I do think he said. At one point, Jack
Rippington said that he was looking for a woman like
grandma like Jack the Rippers, I guess wife, Yeah, which
I thought was funny.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, his whole fourth wall breaking to explain all of
this stuff to us too.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's one of my gripes. I'm not a big fan
of narration.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm not either, and you know it's already frustrated enough
with like when we have to deal with you know,
internal monologues. You know that's telling versus showing. This is
just like it's almost tongue in cheek in a way
because he's at the second time he does it, he's
in the cemetery talking about it, and then Erica is like,
(16:39):
who are you talking to?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah that was funny, Like that was an awesome segue
to introduce new characters. Yeah, But usually when I hear narration,
I just think it's like kind of lazy, like they
filmmakers maybe couldn't convey and scenes or in plot and
dialogue what they want the audience to know, and they
kind of like force speed and spoon feed you like
this is what the movie's about. I became a fan
(17:02):
of this by the end of it. I was like, Okay,
it's part of the movie. I like it. But usually
when narration pops up, like especially in like Quentin Tarantino's
Hateful Eight, where Tarantino just pops up sounding like Trey
Parker from like, you know, South Park, and he starts narrating,
I'm like, ah, it's not necessary. Yeah, we're the audience
is smart enough. Most of the time.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I think it could have been worked in with you know,
you know, he's got his three questions that he's asking
these women, and obviously, you know, all of them except
Erica don't pass his tests, so he could say, ooh sorry,
and then you know, add in the whole like let
me tell you about me kind of thing and why
that was important, and then we get some exposition that
(17:46):
way versus this narration, fourth wall breaking. You know, it's
you know, it's it's low budget, it's fine, like this
is how they figured out the way to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like absolutely it ends up working for sure in its favor,
makes it that much weirder and at a place.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah I mentioned this earlier, like in the opening, like
with Erica, given Erica is a bad name, Like she's
not very she's just she's very enthusiastic. I'll give her that.
But just like the whole agency thing, how is this
not a red flag where he's like, oh, I need
(18:21):
you to call use all these fake names every single time,
and you can't be here when I'm photographing these women
because reason whatever, right, Like you can never.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Go in this room ever, Yeah, I mean his explanation
for the dark room kind of made sense.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
But that makes sense dark for the dark room.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, but you're right, there's a lot of red flags.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, and like what's her face? Girl on the bike, Tracy,
she doesn't see them either. Where He's like, oh, let
me stop, you can I take your picture?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Actually?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Can we go behind these bushes?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That was so fun because yeah, she's very reluctant at first.
She's like, I don't know. And what actually kind of
changed her mind was when he said, I'll tell you
what you give me your address and I'll mail you
a picture. And she's like, oh okay. I'm like, that's
even a fucking like Marsher red flag. But that was
one of my biggest gripes was Jack Rippington kind of
(19:10):
had it made Why would he want to go as
soon as it first started happening. I think I think
he was narrating while he was on the phone, like
I'm stuck with all these amateurs I really want, you know,
every model agency wants me to meet them in person. Yeah,
I can't do that. And I thought to myself immediately,
like why would you do that? Every move every woman
you meet in this movie is just throwing themselves at
(19:32):
you and wants you to photograph them because I don't know,
you're hot and you're hunky. You look like JFK Junior
or something, and.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That's who he looks like. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He looks like a lot of people sometimes. At first
I thought, well, when I saw the poster, I was all, Chris.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Sarandon, Yes, that's first one.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's more like JFK Juniors. It was like or like
one of the Menindez Brothers or something, also sexy, the
hotter one. But as soon as that popped up, I
was like, that makes no sense. You got it made
Why do you need professional actors or models to react
to how to when they're murdered, Because it's a real
reaction from a real from just a normal person, an
(20:10):
amateur or a trained model. And I was like, this
is going to be your downfall, bro, And then it
just realized, Oh, it's necessary for the story. I'm not
going to complain about this, that's.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Fine, But I mean the horniness of this movie, oh yeah,
is off the I mean it sets that up very
well too. Where with the opening kills with Jake who
gets something stuck in his neck after.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, like either an ice pick or a screwdriver or something.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I couldn't quite tell, but how to him and Marybeth
have a very heavy makeout session in there, and after
Jake dies, Marybeth runs through the forest naked. Still got
her shoes on though, because you know you got to
run through. You can't run barefoot through the force that
hurts your feets.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And it's tough to get your shoes and off when
you're in the front seat getting ready to just that's true.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, certain things are not a priority when when it's
getting heated in a car.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So and these scenes like when they're kissing and when
they're fucking, fake fucking. I really felt that these two
people really wanted to fuck and really wanted to kiss.
Like great acting is all I'm saying. Like it's legit,
like it feels real. And I'm not really good on
you know, deep mouth kissing. I know you hate it,
(21:31):
like it's in the moment it happens, for sure, but
this was like this felt. That's why it's very like
I thought there were some adult film stars in here,
but looking at the credits, there's nothing. I was just
surprised at the acting. I was really taking a back
by how well it was done. I was into it,
and I'm sorry, but what's her name? Mary Beth? She
(21:52):
got whatever it was an ice pack.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I think she got a knife in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, And I don't think that would kill you unless
it's like angled up to the brain. But I feel
like that wouldn't kill you straight back.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Maybe she chokes on her blood, but I was like,
she could be saved from this.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
She had some like weird convulsions when she was dying,
so maybe it did go up into her brain.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, I don't know. Definitely one of my least favorite
kills because they just keep getting better and better they do. So.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
After the opening kill Jake and Mary Beth, Jack Rippington
is visited by the religious couple Jeff and Maggie. Maggie
very willingly goes upstairs to slip into something more comfortable yes,
while her husband is downstairs still talking to Jack, Jeff
(22:41):
voluntarily gets into a stocks that's what you called right
where you know, you stick your head and hands through.
I don't know, like if I were truly a religious person,
I would be like, this is some fatanist stuff right here,
and I don't know about all this.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, but at the same time, I think they're trade
almost realistically because they are freaky. Yeah, and at this point,
Jeff is such a nerd, you know, he's like, hey,
you play softball? You want to join the softball church team.
That I don't know, Maybe he's trying to impress this
hot honky guy. Maybe, yeah, but it is very bizarre
for him to be just sticking his head and hand
(23:18):
into these stocks.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yeah, but it's I mean, it's a great I mean,
we're not seeing the head actually get sliced off, but
we see the fake head in the basket and then
like the decapitated rest of the body with the blood
spewing out of it. So first introduction is like, here's
where the gore like really starts kicking it up a
notch because the opening kill. Yes, it's fun, but really
(23:42):
it's just there because he's like, oh, I need an
opening kill. Right, It didn't really have anything because he
didn't take Mary Beth with him to get her blood
or anything like that. You just like he's just in
the forest kill.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
He does ask her the three questions. Yes, I mean, yeah,
you're right, it's.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
All set up, but Maggie's dead.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
The church lady, lady, does she get injected with acid?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, so yeah, this is where you really start seeing
the special effects because the chopped off head, it's, you know,
it's very dummy. It's something you might find its spirit
of Halloween fake, you know, spongy, you know, guts some
stuff with blood spurting out. This is where you see
like that fucking pimple and slumber Party massacre too. Like, yeah,
she's injected with acid and it starts eating her, eating
(24:34):
her neck, going down her neck and she's like vomiting
foam and it's just very effective. Like right away, I
was all, favorite kill. This is gonna be my favorite
kil can't beat that.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
But then I don't know, and then it then it
just keeps going from there. So Jack Rippington is storing
his dead bodies in the cemetery, which is smart. Yes,
that is where you should hide dead bodies. I don't
disagree with that, but it's in this it's we're told
(25:08):
as the audience, So this is a crypt. It is
it is. It is not a crypt. It is basically
a pile of bricks in front of us, and he's
like stuffing I don't know how many bodies in there.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, that's that's one like misstep from from ripping maybe
spread them out.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah, Like you're in a cemetery. You know, you can
dig anywhere you can, you can go to an existing grave,
and but the body on top of that, that's where
I would put the body. Wait, I didn't say that.
Cut that. But the cemetery man no relation to uh delam.
(25:53):
He gets he catches onto all this eventually, even though
he should have caught on right away, like oh you're
you know, oh you're putting flowers in a wheelbear Like.
He's not very good at coming up with excuses on
the fly, but you know, not every serial killer can
be super smart. But the cemetery guy, he gets killed
(26:13):
with the shotgun. And there's a head explosion for that,
which it's kind of too close up to really see
any detail, so not my favorite, but still I appreciate
a good head explosion whenever we can get one.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, there's even like a little bit of flames going on. Yeah,
like it looked cool, but you're right, it's like blink
and you miss it. Yeah. Yeah, and then you get Gretchen.
One of the Gretchen is Eric's friend that we meet,
so she's kind of on too ripping tin and has
always been questioning, like this guy seems bad.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, she's got glasses, so she knows.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
She's got the knowledge right up front, you know that.
So yeah, he even fights her over to kind of
smooth things, smooth things out between them, and she gets
a circular, circular saw to every part of her body.
And he started great practical effects because you know, first
he cuts off the hand, which is then it doesn't
show him cutting her, but he's picking up like every
(27:10):
organ and body part. And finally you get the head
at the end, which is like apparently her eyes popped
out at some points, wonderful. And I was like, okay,
here we go. There, here's my favorite kill in the movie.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
It's it's super fun. I think the next one it's
either Tracy, the girl on the bike, who we don't
see her actually get killed. She's just like taken off
screen and just another disappearance, you know, not going to
victim shame, but girl red flags just so many just yah, anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Keep biking.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
The first the so apparently there's just a string of
models that are being brought here and he's killing all
of them. The only one we actually see get killed. Though,
is one who I don't remember her name, but she
was Chambers. Candice Chambers was told to wear a champagne
colored bikini and clearly that's white. Now I don't know
if it's after labor Day, but it was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I mean again, the transfer we have what's on YouTube
is pretty rough.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It is, it could be it could be a little.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, it looked a little beigeiush to me, I saw
a little cream in there.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
All right, well, I'm being picky, but.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
A champagne really really observing kidding, But she.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Gets she gets electrocuted, and that one's fun like we
actually see her body hanging from the back of a
door later on too. What was funny to me though,
was when Erica finally starts, finally starts to catch on.
It's because of a newscast. That's like, oh, a young
(28:44):
woman has disappeared a model too, and it's like, oh,
because that makes her.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
More important it does.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Okay, Well, I know I understand that I am a
lesser human because I do not you know, I am
not in the entertainment industry and I am not a.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
But you would be safe from killers like Jack Rippington.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
This is true. I also don't live in Uh well no,
I mean because he's getting models from New York, so yeah,
anybody could be as victims.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So yeah, the coming all the way from New York
to Alabama for like to shoot, Like what did he
tell her? It's for an industrial magazine.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, it's like and then.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The betting the agency vet this is bad news, like
they like they kind of deserve this. Sorry, yeah, it's
their employer is not very very good with fire.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Your agent, ladies. I think the next one after that
we're getting, like towards the end as far as like
the kills go is the sheriff, who I love the sheriff,
Like he's just a good old boy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He's just you know, drinks whatever you hand them. If
there's a container, he's gonna drink out of it, no
matter what's in there. Chugging blood in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Yeah, he takes it, takes a sip of blood. He
is having a drinking contest while he's on duty.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
But you know it's that's one of my favorite cuts.
Like I feel like it's when Eric is starting to
figure stuff out, she's driving off and it just immediately
cuts to them like chucking beer ah, you beat me again, Like,
I don't worry about it. Nobody's beaten me since high
school or something.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yeah, but Jack gives him because he basically again Jack
not very smart. He tells the sheriff like, you know, oh, cemetery,
like yeah, I noticed him like poking around by the
crypt or whatever. And then he's like, oh wait, that's
where I hid the bodies. Now I got to kill
(30:37):
the ship.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, he's like talking too much.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
And so the share he puts some hydrochloric acid in
the Sheriff's beer, and his death like, I mean and
I looked up, like what happens if you drink hydrochloric acid?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And that's it like a hole in your neck.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Yeah, it's like it just you know, erodes you from
the inside out.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And it's a very violent death to watch. She's got
blood like coming out of his ears. Yeah, there's a
hole in his neck, and yeah. That I'm like, here's
my favorite.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I mean, it isn't my favorite, though, Oh no, you
saved the best for last in this case, in this movie, Yeah,
which is I mean jumping straight ahead ending the movie
is obviously Jack's death. Erica figures out what's happening. We
get the final, you know, showdown, and Blake Bonner just
(31:32):
sells the fuck out of this because he's gurgling and screaming.
So she throws there's this acid ate everywhere.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, I mean because you need that to develop photos.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, I think that's what the purpose was. And I
don't know if it's if there's actually hydrochloric acid for
photo developed. Maybe some dark rooms and back in the
Earth eighties. I don't know, because I used to have
a dark room. I love dark room.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I did not know you actually had a dark room.
Why you love them so much?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, well, yeah, I had. I took photography as a
class like in school, and I was like really into
it when I first moved to Austin, and I had
my professor come to my duplex and we mapped it
out and I built the me and my father in
law built like the desk, a little sink got all
the dark ring how the enlarger that I bought like
(32:20):
on Craigslist at the time. Yeah, I was all into it.
And I've never been burned by any chemicals, but that
I was using my developments because I did all print.
It was all film, but he had ascids sitting there,
Erica grabs it, throws it at his face, and he
starts gurgling and fucking like screaming for like two full
(32:40):
minute and melting and amazing practical effects, like you think
he's dead, but he's not. It's like he grabs your
leg and I thought he was like getting torn in half,
like he was reminded me of a bishop from Aliens,
like when he's like laying there, but that was I
was like, this is it. You can't. This is the
best of the movie. And that's my favorite kill.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
And that's what I think is so great about this
when it comes to the kills, is because it does
like so you had even said, like, oh, when Maggie
gets injected with acid, like, oh, that's gonna be my
favorite kill. And then it just it keeps getting better
and better and better from there. And so what Peter B.
Good lacks in storytelling and like you know, some sort
(33:28):
of you know, logic in a lot of ways, he
definitely makes it up for in this respect. Now, I mean,
obviously a lot of the credit has to go to
Coulter for his special effects in it, but obviously it
goes under the direction of good and saying like yeah,
so I really appreciate it for that where it's like
(33:50):
so many people making films like you know, blow their
wad and like the you know, in the middle kind
of thing, and then it's all kind of downhill from
there where it's like here, it's like.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's one after and that's what that's. Yeah. I love
that aspect, and it the introduction of the characters, and
they're all memorable characters, like we know, the Goofy cemetery caretaker,
this kind of sweet but very proud like sheriff, you know. Yeah,
even the girl on the bike, and like the ghost
Hunters they start off as ghost Hunters Erica and Gretchen.
(34:21):
The amount of characters I just continuously pop up, and
that's usually one of of my favorite Some of my
favorite movies are just because of the amount of characters,
or like in like Giallo, it's like Red Herrings, you know,
like Ourgento's Bird with a crystal plumage is my favorite
because of how many weird off the wall characters just
pop in for a little bit. And I kind of
(34:41):
got that vibe here. I was like, I like everybody
that's popping up, and I know it's for the high
kit and the body count, which again, the practical effects
make this but I really like how this was written
in paste. I'm like, this is boom boom boom.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
It's gonna be short and sweet. Do you have anything
else in your mind?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You have a few favorites. There's a polar bear rug.
I'm not a fan of taxidermy. No, you don't see
that every day, so you really don't.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, usually just see like the regular grizzly bear ones,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
And that was for Erica and Jack's first scene, maybe
when she's impregnated. So I thought that was a pleasant
surprise seeing a random polar bear rug pop up in Alabama. Yeah.
The songs are very figure.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
This was going to be a big selling point for you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And their original songs because, like, you know, some of
the lyrical context is like you know, it's it's explaining,
you know, Jack's backstory in more ways. During the sex scene,
the lyrics are I forgot the melody, but it's like
I can feel you, You're in my blood and his
whole fucking you know, breaking the four wall when he's
(35:55):
chugging blood for sexual potency for Jack Rippington June, You're
One of my favorite scenes too, is when he's like
in his dark room and he's drinking the blood and
he just burps roll out. It's so out of character
but wonderful. But there are three songs, once called stand
Up by Rainy Haynes, Law of Desire by Wayne Perkins,
(36:17):
and the sex scene song You're in My Blood by
James Holmes, performed by Nico not Nico from Velvet Underground
obviously well yeah it's a spelled with a K. But yeah, again,
the sex scenes I thought were very powerful. I was like,
here we go, Like I thought they felt very real
(36:38):
to me. Yeah, those are pretty much my favorites. And
then Erica at the end being so tough, like she
can fight, and I really I really liked how she
kind of ended up being the Winter but also kind
of continuing on with Jack Rippington's whole murder plan kind
of she becomes a photographer at the end. I hope
(36:58):
she keeps the baby.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I mean I don't, but that's because I don't like children.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Well, because your review was get an abortion, Erica, I say,
keep the keep it because I think this would be
a fun ass move, like make a sequel right now,
somebody pick this up, make a sequel, And I say,
I think it'd be fun as hell to to write,
you know, pick up these stories and make it a
(37:27):
little Maybe pick like a softcore porn sounding horror name,
kind of like fatal Exposure. Lean into the photography theme. Still,
maybe call it something like fully developed. Oh, or how
about fatal exposure to Jack's camera shop? Or how about
this set shutter speed to kill. I mean, I think
(37:53):
this would be fun to pick up, and like, I
feel like somebody should just write and make a low
budget see well, I think, and it involves Erica keeping
the baby.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yeah, well fine, sorry, it's okay. I mean I understand
some people have to have them. I do like just
getting back to the core of your idea, though, you know,
I complain to no end about the lack of you know,
original horror movies. Like I just don't like new horror
(38:22):
movies or anything like that. And a lot of that
has to do with like, oh, let's reboot Halloween. Let's
reboot when did they just reboot that? I like, Urban
Lynch is some fucking shit. I don't know there anyway
I like doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I know what you did last summer.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
That's what they Yeah, anyway, I just I don't I
don't care for it, but I do think outside of
the fact that like, there are so many short stories
and books that people could be adapting rather than just
like going back to them the same. Well is this
idea is finding low budget movies like this, There is
(38:57):
an idea, let's we're not going to We're not going
to remake this, We're going to make a sequel exactly
to a movie like some you know what about Humanoids
from the Deep too, like let's you know something.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, and you're right, I think the more low budget
and more like you know, no studio grasping onto these
ips where it's yeah, it feels like something Ted v.
Michaels would do or something like, Yeah, I just watched
Devil bat for Horror Gives Back for my Animal Attacks movie,
and that's from nineteen forty. It's bell Lego seats around there. Yeah,
(39:32):
And as I was, you know, I try to read
just a little bit about some of these from when
we prep for our horr g Is Back episode. And
somebody did a follow up to that movie in twenty
twenty oh, somebody made like a sequel.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
To that see good for you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, I looked it up and it's very you know,
it has like fifty you know, it's on letterbox, but
you know, nobody watches. It's very probably shot on video,
very low budget, and I'm like, I want to see this,
Like I like where this person's head's at.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah, see, Like that's what I'm talking about, Like there
are opportunities for original ideas, but that are still grounded
in some already established lore or idea or plot or
whatever a type of killer like that. It may be right,
I don't know, I.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Just no, I hear you, Like, I'm very tired of
all these remakes and redos. And even if it's like
a sequel with like thirty years later with the same cast,
like sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't.
It's just like just end it, yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Like don't we don't need to bring people back so
that people can you know, fucking Leonardo DiCaprio like what
could this mean? I can't. I can't do the whistle,
so I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
But if Ena Henderson is still acting, she would be
in my fucking movie.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
She wi Well, yeah she could. I mean, you know,
she could be in there as the mom. But it's
not like she's some person who everyone would be like,
oh my god, it's Sina Henderson, you know. Yeah, So
I wish more people would do this, like have that,
and it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, I mean, I'll start putting the kickstarter together. We'll
see what happens.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Okay, wellah, somebody out there.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Who's ready for set shutter speed to kill Fatal Culture too.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
All right, so double future picklance.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Okay, I'm going to go with another grandson of a
famous mad man who wants to carry on the grandfather's
life work. And there's one that doesn't really get any
better than mel Brooks's Young Frankenstar nineteen seventy four. Well, yeah,
that's how I mean, very different from Jack Rippington, who
(41:41):
obviously has no shame in his history. Frederick Frankenstein obviously
initially doesn't want to carry on his wants no association
with his grandfather, but he ultimately, you know, starts picking up.
He wants to create the monster when he gets back
to the ancestral castle, and he does what his grandfather's
known for. So yeah, I think I think there are
(42:02):
a lot of laugh out loud moments in fatal exposure,
especially if you watch it with friends, like that Burt scene.
I was like, what, that's amazing. So I would say, like,
why not just cat the night off with pure horror
comedy and then do a grandson doing grandfather's life work
double feature? I like it? What about yours?
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I really wanted to go with something that because the
tone and sort of direction of this Jack the Ripper
movie is unique and there, but there are so many
different takes on that person and that lore out there.
I looked up some like Jack the Ripper lists on letterboxed.
(42:47):
The one that I saw that had the most on
there had about fifty movies, and I still this wasn't
on there, So I'm like, your list is incomplete story.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
So I mean there's there's so many opportunities for that.
You know. Obviously Jack's back, which we cover last last year?
Is that no remember last year or the Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I think it was year before.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Okay, Jack's back. Abel Ferrara's Fear City from nineteen eighty four,
which isn't explicitly Jack the Ripper, but it is like
a serial killer going after sex workers. You could do
a straight one like well, not really straight because it's
just Franco but his from nineteen seventy six during klaus Kinski.
But ultimately I thought, what would kind of work after
(43:29):
watching this would be another one where this sort of
spirit of Jack the Ripper is still within the film itself,
and that's Hands of the Ripper from nineteen seventy one.
This is a Hammer production directed by Peter Sasti. The
premise is that this woman Anna is possessed by her
(43:49):
father's spirit, who just so happens to be Jack the Ripper.
So I think, you know, there's there's so many directions
with Jack the Ripper that you can take like just
a literal telling of it. There on that list I
mentioned there were a lot of Jacqueline Hyde movies on there,
which I mean there are some.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I mean was like, what is it called Hands
of the Ripper? That one is if I remember she
has no recollection of murdering people, right, yeah, so maybe
that yeah, maybe it's like segueing.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Yeah, because they had Doctor Jekyll and Sister Hide on there,
and I.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Was like, yeah, I mean, oh no, there is a
Jack the Ripper subplot.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Yeah, yeah, so like there's that and so there's I
think that happens with some of these, but there were
a few others, Like they had that Anthony Perkins Edge
of Sanity one on there, and that's a straight jackyl
and Hyde one from what I remember, I don't remember
there being a Jack the Ripper subtext in that.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, there's the one with is it Malcolm McDowell too,
what's it called? One after Time? I don't even remember
the name. Yeah, but it's like a time travel movie.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
There's there was a lot on that list which i'd
only seen like seven or eight of them, so got
some work to do with Jack the Ripper. But yeah,
Hands of the Ripper in nineteen seventy one is my pick.
But we are moving into no Rules November next month. Lance,
This is our last pick of the year, each of us.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yes, because I think everybody knows we've been taking December
off the last couple of years. It's going to be
no different this year. So yeah, no Rules November, say it.
We still kind of attempt to pick something that's a
little obscure. Yeah, when we do these, I know I
picked Madman Hear my first year.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
I still feel like I think you picked that one
before it was on Joe Bob, which I think was
a lot of people's introduction to that film. So that's
probably the most well known film that we've.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Done, absolutely, I think.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
So for No Rules November, maybe Who Can Kill a Child,
But I think that's more like mine.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I would have made. I would be surprised if that. Yeah,
it's like over ten thousand views on letterbox. I don't
know like it might be, but yeah, most a lot
of these have releases are have had releases since. But
I'm going to go with the rather unsung horror for
the most part with this pick. And we haven't had
a lot of necrophilia in twenty twenty five. You can
(46:13):
never have enough necrofela exactly. That's my point. And it's
been a short year for us, so I wanted to
I'm going to pick a movie that pretty much has
a heavy focus on negrophilia. It's called Love Me Deadly
from nineteen seventy two. So this is about a young
woman who has some serious daddy issues. She lost her
(46:33):
father at a very young age, not quite getting over
his death, and she likes to cope by attending visitations
or wakes of random recently past strangers, and she likes
to sneak a kiss and maybe a tongue into the
mouth of some of these dead strangers during the open
casket viewing. Her compulsions run very deep and take hold
(46:55):
as she sucked into this underground club of necrophiliacs. All
the while she's fallen in love with this man who
is very much in love with her. So we're just
going to watch this thing and figure out how it
all turns out. And as usual, no kink shaming, ever, ever, never,
If anything, we're going to be applauding and actually cheering
(47:17):
on a lot.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
I would actually encourage.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
You can find love Me Deadly on YouTube, which we'll
put a link in. Show notes. Code Red released a
blu ray of this back in twenty eighteen. But this
should be a fun, fun way to kick off. No rules,
no vemo.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Who can kill a child? That's twenty one thousand views?
But oh wow, so good for you people.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Hell yeah, let's get it up there.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
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Speaker 5 (47:56):
Thanks for listening to everyone, and we'll see you back
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it last episode.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you. Thank you for people on Discord wishing me
a happy birthday too, and messages on Instagram. It was very,
very nice. Made my day.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Nice to hear. So October always means our Horror gives
Back Charity challenge. So I'm doing well this month. I
only have about ten movies left to go and it's
October nineteenth, so I'm doing good.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm not. I got some catching up to do, but
I started very early.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I started mid September, so I.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Think I'll be finagling some stuff like you know, this episode.
I could probably this movie we can I can fit in.
I don't think I have a fanom of Hollywood and
there I could throw some of there.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
I put both of our episodes in my list. What
depending on what your next pick is, I might throw
that in there too. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, it could fit in some categories.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Okay, well, this one definitely fits in a few categories.
But before we get into that, I did want to
remind folks about my Miskatonic Institute of Horror Studies lecture
that is coming up on November eighteenth, That is a Tuesday.
It is online, so anybody can sign up for it.
I think it's like ten bucks, and it's at a
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weird time. It's at you know, two pm in the afternoon.
I think that's for like because ms Katonic has like
their London branch, so I think they try to do
it so people from there can jump in and watch it. Yeah, anyway,
because it's online, if you register for it, you'll still
have access to it for a couple of days after
that if you can't watch it in real time. I
(02:30):
hope some folks can join in real time because you know,
it'd be nice to see some friendly names in there
and you know, hopefully not get bombarded with questions from
people questioning my sanity.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So oh, that's going to happen regardless.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
But yeah, it's the presentations coming together. Well, I'm at
about seventy five slides, lots of clips to watch, and
even if I've said it before, even if you have
the book, there's going to be a lot of new
and in there some movies that are in volume two
that I'm working on, So I'll again put a link
in show notes for anyone who is interested. One movie
(03:10):
that unfortunately is not in the book but still has
plenty of great things to talk about is today's episode,
and that is Fatal Exposure from nineteen eighty nine. As
of this recording, it has five hundred and forty views
on Letterboxed and you can watch this one on YouTube.
So Fatal Exposure is about Jack Rippington. He is the
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great grandson of Jack the Ripper. In present day, he
is a photographer who murders people, takes their photo, and
then drinks their blood in order to increase his sexual potency.
He meets this girl Erica, and no relation. No, no,
(03:54):
she's not doing any favors to other Erica's.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean she kicks some ass at the end at
the end.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
But she's not very smart. So it meets Erica. He
decides that, you know, she's worthy of living and in
fact to be his girlfriend because he asks her three
very stupid questions and she's into it. So he uses
Erica to hire female models to murder and add to
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his blood viagra stockpile.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And not a very subtle name change for Jack t
ripping Tin, not at all.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
It's a great name though, Oh it is, like I
could see it almost works as a porn name.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Too, and I got porn vibes from this. I was
surprised looking at the cast that these were an adult
adult film stars.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah, I mean if you even if you just look
at the poster for this, it's like a horror erotic
thriller because of that, just like you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And it's horny.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Oh it's very hardy.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yes, that's that's under my favorite notes.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
All right. So Fatal Exposure was directed and shot by
Peter B. Good, not to be confused with Johnny be.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Good way down in Alabama out in letgommo. Ree, I
got nothing.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So he hasn't directed very many films. One other in
his filmography is Force on Thunder Mountain from nineteen seventy eight.
I did not watch this. Sam Panico, our friend from
B and S about movies, Driving Asylum, he has of
course seen this because he has seen everything, and he
has a review on his site. So I'm just going
to point folks to that in case you're interested in it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That could also be a very soft core horror.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Oh yeah, like that could have been like, is this
you know? Is it a porn? Like it's one of
those one of those games that you play. Screenwriter was
Christopher Painter, who has zero credits other than this one.
And really when it comes to the crew though, I
think the star here is the makeup effects, and that
(06:05):
is Scott Coulter. He's got a number of credits that
are going to be familiar to our audience. In his
filmography Nightmare and Elm Street four, Jason takes Manhattan Tales
from the Crypt Demon Knights.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Some of the best practical effects in nineties.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, Demon Wind Class of Newcomb High prom Night three.
Scott Culter also has done work covering the demon horns
on his sister Anne whenever she makes public appearances.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's good. I was like, are they really related?
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I don't know, but I do think that the one
credit that stands out here, at least to me, and
I know what it is because I feel like the
podcast has come full circle because of your background with
this film and your like whole s OV thing when
you were a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The Crow, Oh, the Crow. Okay, that wasn't the movie,
but okay, I did see his crow. I got very
excited when I saw that. Yeah, we did a quick
summarized remake of The Crow as Captain Tripp's television c
Double TV. There's a skid out there where my buddy
Dave is Eric Draven. He's the Crow and who am I?
(07:23):
I did most of the camera work. Yeah, no, I
was the I wasn't like the our friend Darren was
the fire one of the fired up guys. Yeah it was.
It was brutal.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Okay, So what was the movie that you were excited about.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He did the special effects or worked with the special
effects department for Slumber Party Massacre two, which I think
is one of the best sequels ever made. Yeah, right
or right right after Maniac Coup two, probably it's.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yeah, it's up there. Slumber Party Mascar two is super fun.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, the special effects makeup are fucking awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah, I mean this is you know, this is around
the same time as as a few of these films.
You know, it's not too far off. So I'm not
sure how he ended up on this film, but like
that is that was the main like stand out to me,
and like the reason that I wanted to talk about,
Like there's plenty to talk about, but the gore and
(08:23):
this is so great for the low budgetness of the film.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, and it's I mean, we'll talk about
I'm sure the kills, but every time one popped up,
I'm like, Okay, this one's better. This one. They just
kept out doing each other. Yeah, as soon as they
start it, they don't stop. You're right. One of the best,
if not the best, part about this movie. Yeah, except
for the sex scenes.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
There's a lot of boobies, all right, So speaking of boobies.
Erica is played by Ena Henderson now na O'Rourke. She
was only in a couple of movies during this time,
the other being what looks to be an erotic ghost
thriller called Molly in the Ghost from nineteen ninety one.
(09:09):
She had a few television credits, and then she popped
back up recently in Farm to fork to love in
twenty twenty one, hashtag blessed the movie twenty twenty two,
and there is a monster from twenty twenty four, so
she looks like she's still acting, but not enough for
it to be like her full time career.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So yeah, Molly and the Ghost was one I've actually
had in a potential list for an episode, which is funny.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Oh we're going to get into erotic ghost thriller entire.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Toory directed by Don Jones, who also Schoolgirls and Chains.
Oh oh yeah, okay, forrests like that might be a
fun pick.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Mean, I don't know, Maybe we only need one Ina
Henderson movie in our you never know.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I mean it looks I saw ratings Rod Lot, you know,
Flick Attack. He gave it five five stars, but it
was mainly because he was like, I just need more
people to see this, not necessarily because it's obviously not
a five star movie. But you never know though. I
respect that though. You know, when either certain people I
trust on letterbox and if he's like, you should see
(10:14):
this movie, then okay, I'll give him that. Yeah, respect,
I'll Speaking of boobies, Julie Austen plays Marybeth. She's the
girl in the opening that is killed in the you know,
the makeout in the truck.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh great cold, yeah, great opening. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Now her her main film that she's been in is
the main Girl in Elves from nineteen eighty nine, and
where her little brother also talked about her boobs in
that film. If everyone's seen it recently, you'll remember that part.
She was also in another film that I was going
to watch, but then I felt like I really wanted
(10:50):
to save it for June's Ploitation for next year. It's
Extreme Justice from nineteen ninety three. Listen to this cast
lou Diamond, Phillips's got, Glenn Yaffakato, Andrew Divoff, Stephen root
Ed Louder So, I'm yeah, like Extreme Justice. I'm definitely
saving this for June's Plitation.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
That was additional directing by Spiro Risato. So he's the
class of ninety nine. Yea watch list.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah. But our main guy in this film is played
by Blake I think it's pronounced Bonner b a h
n e R. Jack Rippington. So he was in a
Chuck Vincent film. I watched this when we covered Deranged,
and that's thrilled to death. I gave it three stars.
I don't remember it too well, but three stars is
(11:40):
pretty good in my book.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So yeah, this student total. I mean, the whole cast
just screams Chuck Vincent vibes as I was watching this.
This could be a Chuck Vincent like bad Blood horror
type movie.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Yeah, for sure. Bonner was also in a women in
prison film called Caged Fury from nineteen ninety that looks
like another good June's plait pick for anyone who's getting
their lists ready super early. He was in another one too. Again.
This was another that I was like, oh, maybe I
should watch that called Wizards of the Demon Sword, which
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has Michael Berryman featured very prominently on the poster, but
is deep in the credits, so he's probably in one scene. However, Sam,
again getting back to Sam Pianaco, he gave it a
half star, so I was like, maybe not sounds like
maybe it only has a good title, because like, how
cool is that Wizards of the Demon Sword.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I have Rust Hamblin's in it too, Yeah, like I
so I can see the appeal.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah, so I see the appeal, but I was not
willing to give that my time this week because it's
it's been a hectic week. So but yeah, like pretty
short and sweet as far as cast and crew goes.
Pretty much everyone else that's in this film has only
been in this film, which I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Maybe they're like, you know, let's just grab some locals.
Like it definitely feels that way, like with the sheriff.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And the girl on the bike.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, girl on the bike, the couple that comes for
the uh.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Other religious Yeah, welcome.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
To the neighborhood. Who are they marry?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, Maggie and Maggie and Jeff.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Who can I just say like the whole welcome to
the neighborhood thing, Like I understand etiquette and like being welcoming,
but honestly, to me, the best neighbors are the neighbors
who never say Hi.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah. I think it's I mean, it's changed in decades
and decades. Yeah, and I feel like it's only something
that happens in the movies.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, but I can see this is more believable because
it's religious people. That's the type of people that are
like welcome.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, They're they're coming over, inviting him to church.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Then she immediately just she wants to fuck.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I mean, she's she's.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The religious folks are freaky.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
They are they're the you know that repression, well that
builds up and when they see an opportunity, they just
they jump right on it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So literally, I've been there, I know from experience.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
We'll get back to Jeff and Maggie and we'll go
through the desk, but I do want to first talk
about Jack's three questions. Okay, so his three questions that
he always asks a woman because he's trying to find
his baby mama, which he's very adamant about, like having
(14:32):
a son. So I also wonder like, well, what if
she gives him a daughter? Anyway, his three questions are,
what do you think about death and dying? What do
you think when you hear the word blood? And have
you ever considered murdering someone? And I mean I understand,
like I don't know, just it's so odd, and I
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know it's trying to play up the whole like he's
obsessed with blood for a sexual potency. I mean I
might be if I was out here doing what he
was doing, I might be asking questions like how do
you feel about turning in the person that you love?
If they were doing something wrong, like stuff like that,
you know, Like, I mean, I have my own questions
(15:16):
that are like deal breakers.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
But his questions he didn't think get specific and be like,
what do you think of Jack the Ripper, Like, yeah,
start giving you know, seeing how morbid they are. But
you're right, it should be who's gonna like help me
out with this? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
So I don't know. The three questions are just there.
They're so odd.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And if somebody asked me, what do you think about
when you hear the word blood, I would be My
answer would be April.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Showers the blood. Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
The movie.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Come on, we'll be like, let me tell you about
some movies that we have watched and then go on
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I did like I think, and some of the goofy
narrations I do think he said. At one point, Jack
Rippington said that he was looking for a woman like
grandma like Jack the Rippers, I guess wife, Yeah, which
I thought was funny.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, his whole fourth wall breaking to explain all of
this stuff to us too.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's one of my gripes. I'm not a big fan
of narration.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm not either, and you know it's already frustrated enough
with like when we have to deal with you know,
internal monologues. You know that's telling versus showing. This is
just like it's almost tongue in cheek in a way
because he's at the second time he does it, he's
in the cemetery talking about it, and then Erica is like,
(16:39):
who are you talking to?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah that was funny, Like that was an awesome segue
to introduce new characters. Yeah, But usually when I hear narration,
I just think it's like kind of lazy, like they
filmmakers maybe couldn't convey and scenes or in plot and
dialogue what they want the audience to know, and they
kind of like force speed and spoon feed you like
this is what the movie's about. I became a fan
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of this by the end of it. I was like, Okay,
it's part of the movie. I like it. But usually
when narration pops up, like especially in like Quentin Tarantino's
Hateful Eight, where Tarantino just pops up sounding like Trey
Parker from like, you know, South Park, and he starts narrating,
I'm like, ah, it's not necessary. Yeah, we're the audience
is smart enough. Most of the time.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I think it could have been worked in with you know,
you know, he's got his three questions that he's asking
these women, and obviously, you know, all of them except
Erica don't pass his tests, so he could say, ooh sorry,
and then you know, add in the whole like let
me tell you about me kind of thing and why
that was important, and then we get some exposition that
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way versus this narration, fourth wall breaking. You know, it's
you know, it's it's low budget, it's fine, like this
is how they figured out the way to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like absolutely it ends up working for sure in its favor,
makes it that much weirder and at a place.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah I mentioned this earlier, like in the opening, like
with Erica, given Erica is a bad name, Like she's
not very she's just she's very enthusiastic. I'll give her that.
But just like the whole agency thing, how is this
not a red flag where he's like, oh, I need
(18:21):
you to call use all these fake names every single time,
and you can't be here when I'm photographing these women
because reason whatever, right, Like you can never.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Go in this room ever, Yeah, I mean his explanation
for the dark room kind of made sense.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
But that makes sense dark for the dark room.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, but you're right, there's a lot of red flags.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Yeah, and like what's her face? Girl on the bike, Tracy,
she doesn't see them either. Where He's like, oh, let
me stop, you can I take your picture?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Actually?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Can we go behind these bushes?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That was so fun because yeah, she's very reluctant at first.
She's like, I don't know. And what actually kind of
changed her mind was when he said, I'll tell you
what you give me your address and I'll mail you
a picture. And she's like, oh okay. I'm like, that's
even a fucking like Marsher red flag. But that was
one of my biggest gripes was Jack Rippington kind of
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had it made Why would he want to go as
soon as it first started happening. I think I think
he was narrating while he was on the phone, like
I'm stuck with all these amateurs I really want, you know,
every model agency wants me to meet them in person. Yeah,
I can't do that. And I thought to myself immediately,
like why would you do that? Every move every woman
you meet in this movie is just throwing themselves at
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you and wants you to photograph them because I don't know,
you're hot and you're hunky. You look like JFK Junior
or something, and.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That's who he looks like. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He looks like a lot of people sometimes. At first
I thought, well, when I saw the poster, I was all, Chris.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Sarandon, Yes, that's first one.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's more like JFK Juniors. It was like or like
one of the Menindez Brothers or something, also sexy, the
hotter one. But as soon as that popped up, I
was like, that makes no sense. You got it made
Why do you need professional actors or models to react
to how to when they're murdered, Because it's a real
reaction from a real from just a normal person, an
(20:10):
amateur or a trained model. And I was like, this
is going to be your downfall, bro, And then it
just realized, Oh, it's necessary for the story. I'm not
going to complain about this, that's.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Fine, But I mean the horniness of this movie, oh yeah,
is off the I mean it sets that up very
well too. Where with the opening kills with Jake who
gets something stuck in his neck after.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, like either an ice pick or a screwdriver or something.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I couldn't quite tell, but how to him and Marybeth
have a very heavy makeout session in there, and after
Jake dies, Marybeth runs through the forest naked. Still got
her shoes on though, because you know you got to
run through. You can't run barefoot through the force that
hurts your feets.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And it's tough to get your shoes and off when
you're in the front seat getting ready to just that's true.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, certain things are not a priority when when it's
getting heated in a car.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So and these scenes like when they're kissing and when
they're fucking, fake fucking. I really felt that these two
people really wanted to fuck and really wanted to kiss.
Like great acting is all I'm saying. Like it's legit,
like it feels real. And I'm not really good on
you know, deep mouth kissing. I know you hate it,
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like it's in the moment it happens, for sure, but
this was like this felt. That's why it's very like
I thought there were some adult film stars in here,
but looking at the credits, there's nothing. I was just
surprised at the acting. I was really taking a back
by how well it was done. I was into it,
and I'm sorry, but what's her name? Mary Beth? She
(21:52):
got whatever it was an ice pack.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I think she got a knife in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, And I don't think that would kill you unless
it's like angled up to the brain. But I feel
like that wouldn't kill you straight back.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Maybe she chokes on her blood, but I was like,
she could be saved from this.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
She had some like weird convulsions when she was dying,
so maybe it did go up into her brain.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, I don't know. Definitely one of my least favorite
kills because they just keep getting better and better they do. So.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
After the opening kill Jake and Mary Beth, Jack Rippington
is visited by the religious couple Jeff and Maggie. Maggie
very willingly goes upstairs to slip into something more comfortable yes,
while her husband is downstairs still talking to Jack, Jeff
(22:41):
voluntarily gets into a stocks that's what you called right
where you know, you stick your head and hands through.
I don't know, like if I were truly a religious person,
I would be like, this is some fatanist stuff right here,
and I don't know about all this.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, but at the same time, I think they're trade
almost realistically because they are freaky. Yeah, and at this point,
Jeff is such a nerd, you know, he's like, hey,
you play softball? You want to join the softball church team.
That I don't know, Maybe he's trying to impress this
hot honky guy. Maybe, yeah, but it is very bizarre
for him to be just sticking his head and hand
(23:18):
into these stocks.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yeah, but it's I mean, it's a great I mean,
we're not seeing the head actually get sliced off, but
we see the fake head in the basket and then
like the decapitated rest of the body with the blood
spewing out of it. So first introduction is like, here's
where the gore like really starts kicking it up a
notch because the opening kill. Yes, it's fun, but really
(23:42):
it's just there because he's like, oh, I need an
opening kill. Right, It didn't really have anything because he
didn't take Mary Beth with him to get her blood
or anything like that. You just like he's just in
the forest kill.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
He does ask her the three questions. Yes, I mean, yeah,
you're right, it's.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
All set up, but Maggie's dead.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
The church lady, lady, does she get injected with acid?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, so yeah, this is where you really start seeing
the special effects because the chopped off head, it's, you know,
it's very dummy. It's something you might find its spirit
of Halloween fake, you know, spongy, you know, guts some
stuff with blood spurting out. This is where you see
like that fucking pimple and slumber Party massacre too. Like, yeah,
she's injected with acid and it starts eating her, eating
(24:34):
her neck, going down her neck and she's like vomiting
foam and it's just very effective. Like right away, I
was all, favorite kill. This is gonna be my favorite
kil can't beat that.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
But then I don't know, and then it then it
just keeps going from there. So Jack Rippington is storing
his dead bodies in the cemetery, which is smart. Yes,
that is where you should hide dead bodies. I don't
disagree with that, but it's in this it's we're told
(25:08):
as the audience, So this is a crypt. It is
it is. It is not a crypt. It is basically
a pile of bricks in front of us, and he's
like stuffing I don't know how many bodies in there.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, that's that's one like misstep from from ripping maybe
spread them out.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah, Like you're in a cemetery. You know, you can
dig anywhere you can, you can go to an existing grave,
and but the body on top of that, that's where
I would put the body. Wait, I didn't say that.
Cut that. But the cemetery man no relation to uh delam.
(25:53):
He gets he catches onto all this eventually, even though
he should have caught on right away, like oh you're
you know, oh you're putting flowers in a wheelbear Like.
He's not very good at coming up with excuses on
the fly, but you know, not every serial killer can
be super smart. But the cemetery guy, he gets killed
(26:13):
with the shotgun. And there's a head explosion for that,
which it's kind of too close up to really see
any detail, so not my favorite, but still I appreciate
a good head explosion whenever we can get one.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, there's even like a little bit of flames going on. Yeah,
like it looked cool, but you're right, it's like blink
and you miss it. Yeah. Yeah, and then you get Gretchen.
One of the Gretchen is Eric's friend that we meet,
so she's kind of on too ripping tin and has
always been questioning, like this guy seems bad.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, she's got glasses, so she knows.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
She's got the knowledge right up front, you know that.
So yeah, he even fights her over to kind of
smooth things, smooth things out between them, and she gets
a circular, circular saw to every part of her body.
And he started great practical effects because you know, first
he cuts off the hand, which is then it doesn't
show him cutting her, but he's picking up like every
(27:10):
organ and body part. And finally you get the head
at the end, which is like apparently her eyes popped
out at some points, wonderful. And I was like, okay,
here we go. There, here's my favorite kill in the movie.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
It's it's super fun. I think the next one it's
either Tracy, the girl on the bike, who we don't
see her actually get killed. She's just like taken off
screen and just another disappearance, you know, not going to
victim shame, but girl red flags just so many just yah, anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Keep biking.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
The first the so apparently there's just a string of
models that are being brought here and he's killing all
of them. The only one we actually see get killed. Though,
is one who I don't remember her name, but she
was Chambers. Candice Chambers was told to wear a champagne
colored bikini and clearly that's white. Now I don't know
if it's after labor Day, but it was.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I mean again, the transfer we have what's on YouTube
is pretty rough.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It is, it could be it could be a little.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, it looked a little beigeiush to me, I saw
a little cream in there.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
All right, well, I'm being picky, but.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
A champagne really really observing kidding, But she.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Gets she gets electrocuted, and that one's fun like we
actually see her body hanging from the back of a
door later on too. What was funny to me though,
was when Erica finally starts, finally starts to catch on.
It's because of a newscast. That's like, oh, a young
(28:44):
woman has disappeared a model too, and it's like, oh,
because that makes her.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
More important it does.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Okay, Well, I know I understand that I am a
lesser human because I do not you know, I am
not in the entertainment industry and I am not a.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
But you would be safe from killers like Jack Rippington.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
This is true. I also don't live in Uh well no,
I mean because he's getting models from New York, so yeah,
anybody could be as victims.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So yeah, the coming all the way from New York
to Alabama for like to shoot, Like what did he
tell her? It's for an industrial magazine.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, it's like and then.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The betting the agency vet this is bad news, like
they like they kind of deserve this. Sorry, yeah, it's
their employer is not very very good with fire.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Your agent, ladies. I think the next one after that
we're getting, like towards the end as far as like
the kills go is the sheriff, who I love the sheriff,
Like he's just a good old boy.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He's just you know, drinks whatever you hand them. If
there's a container, he's gonna drink out of it, no
matter what's in there. Chugging blood in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Yeah, he takes it, takes a sip of blood. He
is having a drinking contest while he's on duty.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
But you know it's that's one of my favorite cuts.
Like I feel like it's when Eric is starting to
figure stuff out, she's driving off and it just immediately
cuts to them like chucking beer ah, you beat me again, Like,
I don't worry about it. Nobody's beaten me since high
school or something.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yeah, but Jack gives him because he basically again Jack
not very smart. He tells the sheriff like, you know, oh, cemetery,
like yeah, I noticed him like poking around by the
crypt or whatever. And then he's like, oh wait, that's
where I hid the bodies. Now I got to kill
(30:37):
the ship.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, he's like talking too much.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
And so the share he puts some hydrochloric acid in
the Sheriff's beer, and his death like, I mean and
I looked up, like what happens if you drink hydrochloric acid?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And that's it like a hole in your neck.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Yeah, it's like it just you know, erodes you from
the inside out.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And it's a very violent death to watch. She's got
blood like coming out of his ears. Yeah, there's a
hole in his neck, and yeah. That I'm like, here's
my favorite.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I mean, it isn't my favorite, though, Oh no, you
saved the best for last in this case, in this movie, Yeah,
which is I mean jumping straight ahead ending the movie
is obviously Jack's death. Erica figures out what's happening. We
get the final, you know, showdown, and Blake Bonner just
(31:32):
sells the fuck out of this because he's gurgling and screaming.
So she throws there's this acid ate everywhere.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, I mean because you need that to develop photos.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, I think that's what the purpose was. And I
don't know if it's if there's actually hydrochloric acid for
photo developed. Maybe some dark rooms and back in the
Earth eighties. I don't know, because I used to have
a dark room. I love dark room.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I did not know you actually had a dark room.
Why you love them so much?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, well, yeah, I had. I took photography as a
class like in school, and I was like really into
it when I first moved to Austin, and I had
my professor come to my duplex and we mapped it
out and I built the me and my father in
law built like the desk, a little sink got all
the dark ring how the enlarger that I bought like
(32:20):
on Craigslist at the time. Yeah, I was all into it.
And I've never been burned by any chemicals, but that
I was using my developments because I did all print.
It was all film, but he had ascids sitting there,
Erica grabs it, throws it at his face, and he
starts gurgling and fucking like screaming for like two full
(32:40):
minute and melting and amazing practical effects, like you think
he's dead, but he's not. It's like he grabs your
leg and I thought he was like getting torn in half,
like he was reminded me of a bishop from Aliens,
like when he's like laying there, but that was I
was like, this is it. You can't. This is the
best of the movie. And that's my favorite kill.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
And that's what I think is so great about this
when it comes to the kills, is because it does
like so you had even said, like, oh, when Maggie
gets injected with acid, like, oh, that's gonna be my
favorite kill. And then it just it keeps getting better
and better and better from there. And so what Peter B.
Good lacks in storytelling and like you know, some sort
(33:28):
of you know, logic in a lot of ways, he
definitely makes it up for in this respect. Now, I mean,
obviously a lot of the credit has to go to
Coulter for his special effects in it, but obviously it
goes under the direction of good and saying like yeah,
so I really appreciate it for that where it's like
(33:50):
so many people making films like you know, blow their
wad and like the you know, in the middle kind
of thing, and then it's all kind of downhill from
there where it's like here, it's like.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's one after and that's what that's. Yeah. I love
that aspect, and it the introduction of the characters, and
they're all memorable characters, like we know, the Goofy cemetery caretaker,
this kind of sweet but very proud like sheriff, you know. Yeah,
even the girl on the bike, and like the ghost
Hunters they start off as ghost Hunters Erica and Gretchen.
(34:21):
The amount of characters I just continuously pop up, and
that's usually one of of my favorite Some of my
favorite movies are just because of the amount of characters,
or like in like Giallo, it's like Red Herrings, you know,
like Ourgento's Bird with a crystal plumage is my favorite
because of how many weird off the wall characters just
pop in for a little bit. And I kind of
(34:41):
got that vibe here. I was like, I like everybody
that's popping up, and I know it's for the high
kit and the body count, which again, the practical effects
make this but I really like how this was written
in paste. I'm like, this is boom boom boom.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
It's gonna be short and sweet. Do you have anything
else in your mind?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You have a few favorites. There's a polar bear rug.
I'm not a fan of taxidermy. No, you don't see
that every day, so you really don't.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, usually just see like the regular grizzly bear ones,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
And that was for Erica and Jack's first scene, maybe
when she's impregnated. So I thought that was a pleasant
surprise seeing a random polar bear rug pop up in Alabama. Yeah.
The songs are very figure.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
This was going to be a big selling point for you.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And their original songs because, like, you know, some of
the lyrical context is like you know, it's it's explaining,
you know, Jack's backstory in more ways. During the sex scene,
the lyrics are I forgot the melody, but it's like
I can feel you, You're in my blood and his
whole fucking you know, breaking the four wall when he's
(35:55):
chugging blood for sexual potency for Jack Rippington June, You're
One of my favorite scenes too, is when he's like
in his dark room and he's drinking the blood and
he just burps roll out. It's so out of character
but wonderful. But there are three songs, once called stand
Up by Rainy Haynes, Law of Desire by Wayne Perkins,
(36:17):
and the sex scene song You're in My Blood by
James Holmes, performed by Nico not Nico from Velvet Underground
obviously well yeah it's a spelled with a K. But yeah, again,
the sex scenes I thought were very powerful. I was like,
here we go, Like I thought they felt very real
(36:38):
to me. Yeah, those are pretty much my favorites. And
then Erica at the end being so tough, like she
can fight, and I really I really liked how she
kind of ended up being the Winter but also kind
of continuing on with Jack Rippington's whole murder plan kind
of she becomes a photographer at the end. I hope
(36:58):
she keeps the baby.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I mean I don't, but that's because I don't like children.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Well, because your review was get an abortion, Erica, I say,
keep the keep it because I think this would be
a fun ass move, like make a sequel right now,
somebody pick this up, make a sequel, And I say,
I think it'd be fun as hell to to write,
you know, pick up these stories and make it a
(37:27):
little Maybe pick like a softcore porn sounding horror name,
kind of like fatal Exposure. Lean into the photography theme. Still,
maybe call it something like fully developed. Oh, or how
about fatal exposure to Jack's camera shop? Or how about
this set shutter speed to kill. I mean, I think
(37:53):
this would be fun to pick up, and like, I
feel like somebody should just write and make a low
budget see well, I think, and it involves Erica keeping
the baby.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yeah, well fine, sorry, it's okay. I mean I understand
some people have to have them. I do like just
getting back to the core of your idea, though, you know,
I complain to no end about the lack of you know,
original horror movies. Like I just don't like new horror
(38:22):
movies or anything like that. And a lot of that
has to do with like, oh, let's reboot Halloween. Let's
reboot when did they just reboot that? I like, Urban
Lynch is some fucking shit. I don't know there anyway
I like doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I know what you did last summer.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
That's what they Yeah, anyway, I just I don't I
don't care for it, but I do think outside of
the fact that like, there are so many short stories
and books that people could be adapting rather than just
like going back to them the same. Well is this
idea is finding low budget movies like this, There is
(38:57):
an idea, let's we're not going to We're not going
to remake this, We're going to make a sequel exactly
to a movie like some you know what about Humanoids
from the Deep too, like let's you know something.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, and you're right, I think the more low budget
and more like you know, no studio grasping onto these
ips where it's yeah, it feels like something Ted v.
Michaels would do or something like, Yeah, I just watched
Devil bat for Horror Gives Back for my Animal Attacks movie,
and that's from nineteen forty. It's bell Lego seats around there. Yeah,
(39:32):
And as I was, you know, I try to read
just a little bit about some of these from when
we prep for our horr g Is Back episode. And
somebody did a follow up to that movie in twenty
twenty oh, somebody made like a sequel.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
To that see good for you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, I looked it up and it's very you know,
it has like fifty you know, it's on letterbox, but
you know, nobody watches. It's very probably shot on video,
very low budget, and I'm like, I want to see this,
Like I like where this person's head's at.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah, see, Like that's what I'm talking about, Like there
are opportunities for original ideas, but that are still grounded
in some already established lore or idea or plot or
whatever a type of killer like that. It may be right,
I don't know, I.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Just no, I hear you, Like, I'm very tired of
all these remakes and redos. And even if it's like
a sequel with like thirty years later with the same cast,
like sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't.
It's just like just end it, yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Like don't we don't need to bring people back so
that people can you know, fucking Leonardo DiCaprio like what
could this mean? I can't. I can't do the whistle,
so I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
But if Ena Henderson is still acting, she would be
in my fucking movie.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
She wi Well, yeah she could. I mean, you know,
she could be in there as the mom. But it's
not like she's some person who everyone would be like,
oh my god, it's Sina Henderson, you know. Yeah, So
I wish more people would do this, like have that,
and it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, I mean, I'll start putting the kickstarter together. We'll
see what happens.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Okay, wellah, somebody out there.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Who's ready for set shutter speed to kill Fatal Culture too.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
All right, so double future picklance.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Okay, I'm going to go with another grandson of a
famous mad man who wants to carry on the grandfather's
life work. And there's one that doesn't really get any
better than mel Brooks's Young Frankenstar nineteen seventy four. Well, yeah,
that's how I mean, very different from Jack Rippington, who
(41:41):
obviously has no shame in his history. Frederick Frankenstein obviously
initially doesn't want to carry on his wants no association
with his grandfather, but he ultimately, you know, starts picking up.
He wants to create the monster when he gets back
to the ancestral castle, and he does what his grandfather's
known for. So yeah, I think I think there are
(42:02):
a lot of laugh out loud moments in fatal exposure,
especially if you watch it with friends, like that Burt scene.
I was like, what, that's amazing. So I would say, like,
why not just cat the night off with pure horror
comedy and then do a grandson doing grandfather's life work
double feature? I like it? What about yours?
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I really wanted to go with something that because the
tone and sort of direction of this Jack the Ripper
movie is unique and there, but there are so many
different takes on that person and that lore out there.
I looked up some like Jack the Ripper lists on letterboxed.
(42:47):
The one that I saw that had the most on
there had about fifty movies, and I still this wasn't
on there, So I'm like, your list is incomplete story.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
So I mean there's there's so many opportunities for that.
You know. Obviously Jack's back, which we cover last last year?
Is that no remember last year or the Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I think it was year before.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Okay, Jack's back. Abel Ferrara's Fear City from nineteen eighty four,
which isn't explicitly Jack the Ripper, but it is like
a serial killer going after sex workers. You could do
a straight one like well, not really straight because it's
just Franco but his from nineteen seventy six during klaus Kinski.
But ultimately I thought, what would kind of work after
(43:29):
watching this would be another one where this sort of
spirit of Jack the Ripper is still within the film itself,
and that's Hands of the Ripper from nineteen seventy one.
This is a Hammer production directed by Peter Sasti. The
premise is that this woman Anna is possessed by her
(43:49):
father's spirit, who just so happens to be Jack the Ripper.
So I think, you know, there's there's so many directions
with Jack the Ripper that you can take like just
a literal telling of it. There on that list I
mentioned there were a lot of Jacqueline Hyde movies on there,
which I mean there are some.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I mean was like, what is it called Hands
of the Ripper? That one is if I remember she
has no recollection of murdering people, right, yeah, so maybe
that yeah, maybe it's like segueing.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Yeah, because they had Doctor Jekyll and Sister Hide on there,
and I.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Was like, yeah, I mean, oh no, there is a
Jack the Ripper subplot.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Yeah, yeah, so like there's that and so there's I
think that happens with some of these, but there were
a few others, Like they had that Anthony Perkins Edge
of Sanity one on there, and that's a straight jackyl
and Hyde one from what I remember, I don't remember
there being a Jack the Ripper subtext in that.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, there's the one with is it Malcolm McDowell too,
what's it called? One after Time? I don't even remember
the name. Yeah, but it's like a time travel movie.
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
There's there was a lot on that list which i'd
only seen like seven or eight of them, so got
some work to do with Jack the Ripper. But yeah,
Hands of the Ripper in nineteen seventy one is my pick.
But we are moving into no Rules November next month. Lance,
This is our last pick of the year, each of us.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yes, because I think everybody knows we've been taking December
off the last couple of years. It's going to be
no different this year. So yeah, no Rules November, say it.
We still kind of attempt to pick something that's a
little obscure. Yeah, when we do these, I know I
picked Madman Hear my first year.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
I still feel like I think you picked that one
before it was on Joe Bob, which I think was
a lot of people's introduction to that film. So that's
probably the most well known film that we've.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Done, absolutely, I think.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
So for No Rules November, maybe Who Can Kill a Child,
But I think that's more like mine.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I would have made. I would be surprised if that. Yeah,
it's like over ten thousand views on letterbox. I don't
know like it might be, but yeah, most a lot
of these have releases are have had releases since. But
I'm going to go with the rather unsung horror for
the most part with this pick. And we haven't had
a lot of necrophilia in twenty twenty five. You can
(46:13):
never have enough necrofela exactly. That's my point. And it's
been a short year for us, so I wanted to
I'm going to pick a movie that pretty much has
a heavy focus on negrophilia. It's called Love Me Deadly
from nineteen seventy two. So this is about a young
woman who has some serious daddy issues. She lost her
(46:33):
father at a very young age, not quite getting over
his death, and she likes to cope by attending visitations
or wakes of random recently past strangers, and she likes
to sneak a kiss and maybe a tongue into the
mouth of some of these dead strangers during the open
casket viewing. Her compulsions run very deep and take hold
(46:55):
as she sucked into this underground club of necrophiliacs. All
the while she's fallen in love with this man who
is very much in love with her. So we're just
going to watch this thing and figure out how it
all turns out. And as usual, no kink shaming, ever, ever, never,
If anything, we're going to be applauding and actually cheering
(47:17):
on a lot.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
I would actually encourage.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
You can find love Me Deadly on YouTube, which we'll
put a link in. Show notes. Code Red released a
blu ray of this back in twenty eighteen. But this
should be a fun, fun way to kick off. No rules,
no vemo.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Who can kill a child? That's twenty one thousand views?
But oh wow, so good for you people.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Hell yeah, let's get it up there.
Speaker 5 (47:41):
Yeah all right, if you're not already, you can follow
our podcast on Instagram at Unsung Horrors. You can follow
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Speaker 2 (47:53):
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Speaker 5 (47:56):
Thanks for listening to everyone, and we'll see you back
in November. Before love me Dudley, I.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
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Speaker 4 (48:17):
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Speaker 3 (48:38):
Number two.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
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Speaker 4 (48:53):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (49:00):
Way for you love you still two lot means this
is still sun to go up?
Speaker 8 (49:19):
You got that you begever? Now you let me say
you got something that hold up with me? You ladys po.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
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