Hell Has No Boundary (1982) w/ Ian Jane

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Prepare yourself for the terror, the prison of madness. We
have a few inter and Nonritter.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to Unsung Horrus with Lunes.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And Denica.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Leave all your sanity behind. It can't help you now.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hello and welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the
podcast where we discuss underseen horror films, specifically those with
less than a thousand views on letterbox I'm Lance, I'm Erica,
and Erica. We are still in August, yes, which means
that we're still celebrating our annual tradition of sh August.
That's where we and our listeners just watch as many

(01:13):
Shaw Brothers films as we can during the month, and
during the month of August, we like to highlight Shaw
Brothers horror films, underseeing horror films, those obviously fewer than
a thousand views on letterboxed. So this time we're going
to be talking about Hell has no boundary from nineteen
eighty two. As of this recording, it has seven hundred
and three logs on letterboxed. You can find it streaming

(01:34):
on ok dot Ru, which is essentially Russia's YouTube, so
it's safe for the most part.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Thanks Russia just for this, but that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, right, get we find some good hard to find
movies there. Yeah, there's also some bootleg DVDs out there
on eBay, but I have a strong feeling that this
might be getting a Blu ray treatment. It seems like
a movie that will be put out to the world.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
So there's a There's so many that are coming out.
There's so many block sets that are coming out. Arrow
Shout Factory, Imprint just got in the game with their
their shaw Shock set which had a second our last episode,
and uh, as usual every s August we have our

(02:21):
same guest who is a regular contributor to multiple sets.
There's been a lot happening in the last year that
I've seen our guests contribute to. So welcome back.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I thank you. Yeah. The last year was a busy
one for me. Without going into details that I cannot
disclose right now, last year and a half, I did
roughly a dozen commentaries for show Factory, for Arrow and
for an Australian release of Ship I'm spacally on the
name of it. I did so many the same time.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
That's okay, now you your name snow Girl.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
The snow Girl nice? Yeah, so I got I got
very burnt out on show Brothers for a while. There
is there is one release that I was involved in
that has yet to be announced. Can't say anything about
it except that your listeners are going to be very
happy with it. Oh, okay, that's all I will That's

(03:21):
all I will say. That's all I will say.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Excellent.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I was going to, but I'm not because I mean,
you can guess. I just can't give you answers.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Right, horror, Jason. It sounds like probably, I don't know, okay.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Maybe yeah, Well, yeah, I mean we I've been doing
a lot of a lot of my sh August watches
came later in the month, doing a lot of chore
u N watches, including Haunted Tales which I think Adam
shared the link to that in our discord, Bat Without Wings,
Magic Blade, Sentimental Swordsman, and Jay Tiger which Ian I

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listened to your commentary for that excellent, John, as always.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
What have you been watching for sh August?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I've been watching. Yeah, I watched that without Wing about
without Wings as well? God, what else about watching.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
That without wings?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Kind of rules it does? I'd never seen it before. Obviously,
you know what we watched Sex Beyond the Grave. I
had never seen Hell has No Boundary before this episode? Ian,
is this the first time you had watched it too?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Before? I went into it completely blind away I've ever
seen it. I had never seen it before. And when
you said, hey, let's do how has No Boundary? I
was like, okay, I'm not even going to look this
up on IMDb or anything. I'm just going to go
in knowing nothing excellent. And I actually left it until
last night to watch so that it would be like
it's fresh in my mind. Yeah. I took notes and stuff,

(04:44):
but I had not seen it before the last twenty
four hours.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wow, I can't wait to hear what you have to
say about it.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, and we'll dig into.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It, and we're going to need you to actually correct
us if you can in any of these pronunciations of
these names. Okay, now, okay, you're off the hook. We're
just apologizing for everything to the names.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
It's fine. I do want to add one more thing
to my sort of shawgust pile here, because I went,
you know, I was like, I'm doing a deep dive
on this, and I had seen this book that came
out last year, and I was like, oh, that's cool,
but I don't have a job, so I'm not going
to buy that right now. I have a job now, yay,
And oh thank you, I know I heard, I heard you.

(05:26):
You got impacted. To my god, it's this is the
worst timeline, but it's me. I'm glad that we're both
re employed. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna I'm
going to grab that book and I'll have like another resource.
So it is Shaw Brothers Masters of Kung Fu Cinema book. Okay,
it is because it's I did not okay, So this

(05:48):
is my fault for looking at it and not actually
reading the description of it. Like how fucking thin this
book is. It's basically a they took the wikipedias for
all of these movies. There's a ship ton of typos
in it, like uh some of the title like there
look Martail Club not Marshall Club, like and big it's

(06:09):
all over this book. And I don't like to call
someone out. I know how hard it is to put
something together and make a book, but like, look how
thin this is. You didn't put it in a lot
of time to it and like it's literally like the
most useless book I've ever bought. So I'm really mad
that I bought it, and I'm really mad that there didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You didn't look up how many pages it was.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
I did not because I saw the cover and I
was like, cool, this is gonna it. The back of
it says, this visually stunning book aims to delve deep
into the cinematic wonder show. Whatever delve deep? Does it
not a deep dive del Yeah, it's visually yeah, very pretty.

(06:49):
It's very pretty. It's got a lot of pictures, colors,
nice thick pages. But you didn't put anything in this book,
So folks, don't buy this fucking book like I did. August.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh well, I mean, start working on your own Shaw Brothers.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
No, I'm working on volume two.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Oh yeah, Sweetest Taboo. Speaking of Sweetest Taboo, that's hell
has no boundaries in your first book?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yes it is, so let me try.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And do a summary. I mean, obviously with the Shaw Brothers, whoores,
they're difficult to summarize. I'm going to give it a go.
This one's real short. So we have May who is
a vice cop, and she and her cop boyfriend slash
fiance head out on a camping trip to celebrate her birthday,
but May quickly becomes possessed by a vengeful spirit, the

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spirit of a young girl who was treated and murdered
in a very gruesome manner during her short life. I
think we'll talk about this particular flashback scene, but it's
so good. Those who've read read Erica's book The Sweetest
Taboo probably already know what happens to the young girl.
It's brutal, and it's why we love this movie. But May,

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she's possessed, which gives her the supernatural abilities, also changes
her personality from kind hearted to very mean spirited, and
she begins to use her newfound powers to pretty much
fuck up anyone who wrongs her and her fiance. Other
cops a reporter are trying to figure out what's going
on and how May is connected. Also, this spirit possessing

(08:20):
May has an agenda of her own due to pacity events,
and this leads to a truly unhinged, supernatural, wonderful ending. Yeah,
we're going to dive into the specifics and the details
of this movie. Let's let's see what I can do
with these with the crew and cast members.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
All right, I have to interject really quickly, please too.
I did read Erica's book and I forgot this was
in there. Oh, but I read it like when I
first got it.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Probably because you hadn't seen Hell has no boundary.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I hadn't seen it, no, exactly, so it was kind
of like, oh, this sounds cool, and I wanted to
the next one. And did I tell you last year?
I don't know if i'd read it last year or not. No,
I hadn't, because when we recorded last August, I don't
think I have the book yet. So I literally read
your book while my wife was having surgery. Oh, like
in a hospital waiting room. So maybe not in hindsight
the best spot to read a book. Yeah, that's where

(09:12):
I read it. So yeah, forgive me if I forgot
that this was in the book.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
It's fine. You know, there's twelve hundred movies in that book.
I I blame no bloody for I forget movies are
in that book sometimes because they're like, oh, isn't this
in there? And I was like, I don't know, is it?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Look at the index? I know when I announced that,
your face just lit up and you're like clapping, and
I'm like, oh, this is.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well because this is like I remember, like the four
and five star kills. So like this is up there.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, this wasted in that yeah book because I did
go back and read your excerpt on it and stuff.
It also has that cool little menu that you put together.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh yeah, it's in the swift It's in the menu.
It's got the short ribs.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's right, let's go meet Okay, So hell, How's no Bound?
Was directed by Chuan Yong. I couldn't find too much
information on him, but I'll share what I did learn,
and you guys feel free to interject if you having information.
He directed roughly fifty films starting in the late fifties.
He was born in Guangzhou, China, and he moved to

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Hong Kong when he was seventeen, and he began his
film career at the age of twenty five, enrolling in
the China Film Academy in nineteen fifty six studying screenwriting
and directing, and a few years later, in nineteen fifty nine,
he wrote and directed his first film, a horror movie
with such a good title, Flying Corpse on a foggy Night.

(10:39):
I couldn't find this anywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I tried to. Yeah, no, Locking.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Piper, can you stop looking your footer Piper, Thanks.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Thank you, adding a little ambiance. It sounds like a
Shaw Brothers soundtrack in the.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Background, like eating maggots.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
But he then joined a motion picture company called Tao
Yun Motion Picture and signed on as an assistant director
until nineteen sixty three, when he left to begin making
films as an independent filmmaker, and he directed some very
successful films during this time, including one based on a
popular TV character named tam Bingman, which Jong made a

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comedy feature after, called The Country Bumpkin in nineteen seventy four,
and this film was apparently one of the top ten
highest grossing Hong Kong films that year, so studios obviously
went after him, and he signed with the independent production
company Gold Egg Films in late nineteen seventy four, so
the majority of his filmography that he directed he pretty

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much was all independent or for other studios other than
Shaw Brothers. He signed with Shaw Brothers in nineteen eighty two,
when he only directed five films that I know of
with him, Hell Has No Boundary being his first, and
then in nineteen eighty six he wanted to become an
independent director again, in he remained one until his last
movie in nineteen ninety six or nineteen eighty five, although

(12:06):
he does have some directing credits on IMDb in the
early two thousands, but that seemed to be like previously
shot footage that filmmakers used. He passed away at the
age of eighty one in twenty twelve in New York,
where he had been living for a number of years,
but we brought up a few of his films in
past episodes, particularly in sh August. First off, he directed

(12:28):
the beautifully touching, very family friendly, uplifting classic Seating of
a Ghost from nineteen eighty three.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Movie is so fucking good.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's like top three. It's right up there for me.
Like my favorites are Corpsmania and The Boxer Zonemen, but
I'm putting Seating of a Ghost stuff there. I just
rewatched that too.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I watched it last year. I mean I've seen it
I don't know how many times at this point, but
my wife and my step son had never seen it,
so we watched it together. I just every time that
ending it does it really does.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Was anybody in surgery at the time you were watching?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, no, thankfully this time I love his One of
his later Movies nineteen ninety four's Bloody Beast. I think
I turned you on to them.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I just yeah for last year for our Horror givets
Back October challenge for the Sweetest taboo A category. Yes,
obviously it has its child.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's this one is got those unhinged moments of it
category three film. It's about a guy who has been
He gets sexually aroused by women who are breastfeeding. Just
the cow juice, cow juice whatever, women juice whatever. It's
all disgusting. But yeah, it's I love that one too, so,

(13:46):
I mean his his top line on letterbox is like,
you know, banger bang or banger.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I watched a few of his
earlier action films while he was working for Gold Digg
Films in the late seventies. A Bruce ploitation film called
Storming Attacks in nineteen seventy eight, also known as the
Image of Bruce Lee, and This stars Ho Chewing Tao,
Bruce Lie, Bruce Lee. I had a lot of fun

(14:15):
watching this. I really liked all the characters. It got
really stupid. I think they changed the name because one
of the characters in the movie tells him he looks
just like Bruce Lee.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Oh, is this one in that Bruce ploitation set. I
haven't watched. I don't one yet.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Actually, I didn't look at it. I don't think it was.
It does have Boloyung in it is one of the
main lung in it as one of the main two
villains in this and basically him and Bruce Life fight
each other a dozen times throughout the movie.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
So I'm thinking of the other one that's INID it's Phormography,
the Duel of the Seven Tigers, because you watched that one.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I did watch that one too.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, I've seen that one too. That one's a lot
of fun.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
That one is good. It has a great kind of
I think that's someone that had the No. That's the
cold open was for Storming Attacks where there's an older
gentleman who's going to commit suicide and Bruce Lee he
grabs his arm to save him, but unfortunately it's a
prosthetic arm, so it pops off and down. You guys,
this isn't Yeah, that's like in the first that's like
in the first like two minutes of the movie. No spoilers,

(15:11):
but it's a great cold open. I'm like, Okay, this
movie is Gonna.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's got a lot of Philip co in it. I
always like watching Yes, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Duel of the Seven Tigers that Actually I found it
a little Some of the characters were born, but his
character just steals the show. Him and his final fights
are like worth watching for.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Sure, if I remember right. Though, he's cast as a
Japanese guy too.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
He is, Yeah, wasn't here. He's in Sex Beyond the
Grave as a Japanese as Japanese. Yeah, those two movies
were fun watching. Also, I saw that director Trn Yong
has some small roles in a few movies acting roles,
including Twin Dragons with Jackie Chan. I think he's like

(15:54):
in the background some Yeah, he's probably just walking around.
But I saw that because I watched that for the
first time a couple of years ago, and I was like.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's a blast.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's it's so funny, like the twin brothers can feel
when another's on a speedboat.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Or it's so ridiculous it makes me based when Jackie
Chan was good, I said it. I'm sorry, I said.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
For foreigner accurate things.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So Hell Has No Boundary was produced by Lady shaw
mona funk who we've chatted about plenty of past Shaugus episodes.
We've also talked about the Shaw Brothers master editor Chang
Sing Lung, who's edited about eight hundred Shaw Brothers movies,
so I'm not really we don't really have to dive
into him. The original score, which I think is great.

(16:45):
It's a combination of probably pre existing scores from so
Yan Howe and Stephen Shing Game Wing, who each have
had a hand in probably at least one of your
favorite Shaw Brothers films. These include The Boxers, Omen Five, Element, Hinjas, Bewitched,

(17:05):
Seeding of a Ghost, Human Lanterns. The list goes on
and on. I also read I don't know if you
guys heard it or know of this scene, but somebody
pointed out that phantasm was used or it was recreated
the phantasm theme.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Ye, I mean, oh, I missed that.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I missed it, But it's used in I've heard it
in so many show Brothers movies. I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, that's what I was. Yeah, because didn't we talk
about it in Sex Beyond the Grave? Or I think
yeah we did because it Yeah, it seems to pop up,
seems to be a favorite of the Shaw Brothers Horror no.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Until Don Costcarelli. Otherwise hard time getting some of these
really yeah true.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
And lastly, the only other cast crew member I have
is cinematographer Chin ching Ma, who filmed Centipede Horror in
nineteen eighty two. Oh yeah, which I love, I love hate.
I have a love hate relationship with that movie.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think a lot of people do.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think it was my double feature pick for Bewitch
years ago, but he.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Was kind of I kind of just love it.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, oh no, I love it, like, but I understand
why some people are like about it, Like, I get it.
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know, a lot that bugged us, and I think,
like that doesn't bother me. It's just it's just kind
of I don't know, like it doesn't suck me. And
I feel like it goes for the gross factor and.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
That's for me. It really does.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Like that. That's all they're kind of delivering for me,
and I'm like, I need a little more.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, that's kind of what I love about it, though.
It's just like it's just gross. Yeah, there's not really
anything else more to go on there. It's just gross.
I respect that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, But he also is a DP for Bastard Swordsmen
films and Holy Flame of the Martial World. Okay, for cast,
we have Leanne Lou who is playing May, the woman
possessed and who's causing all the killer and horror, killing
and horror in this. She acted in twelve Shaw Brothers

(18:55):
films that I could find from nineteen eighty two to
nineteen eighty five, Hell Has No Boundary being her first.
She starred as a title character in The Lady Assassin.
She was in both Bastards Swordsman movies Holy Flame of
the Marshall World. So yeah, she had a nice but
short career in Shaw Brothers films because she ended up
moving to Taiwan, becoming one of the most well known

(19:16):
actresses in Chinese television, apparently one of the highest paid
television actresses there currently.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
She also pops up if I if I'm correct, In eight.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Diagram Pull Fighter, she does yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, which I will defend as the best Chow Brothers
action film in the eighties. I will fight anybody who
disagrees with me.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I love that movie. It's I love it so much.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Best too smashing movie ever.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Oh Keith hurt. After that, I was like, oh lord,
one of the ones that I watched this year for
a Child death that she's in was Opium and The
Kung Fu Master, which I really liked. You got to
watch t Long get addicted to opium, so that was fun.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I did the commentary on that one.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I did, Okay, I just watched it. I haven't watched
done commentary on that one though, So it's like.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Me rambling on about the history of opium use in
China and stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'm here for it. I am here for it. I
love your like side quests into like those details.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So if I didn't have side quests, there's no way
I could feel ninety minutes.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
No.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I love to like your side quest into like Jade
and like white Jade for Jade Tiger, so like, I
get it.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I fell down a big rabbit hole area.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
She's great and what I love about her, you know,
sort of getting into getting back to Centipede horror, is
that Hong Kong actresses, like, especially those who are in
horror films, they're just built differently, you know, Like she's
eaten maggots or meal worms or whatever. In this she's
I'm skipping ahead to the best part of this movie,

(20:47):
but she's drinking out of a toilet. She's taking a
bath in the toilet water. The fucking woman in centipede
horse got centipedes coming in and out of her mouth.
I'm sorry, Jamie Lee Curtis could never like just just
they're just built differently there.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Like, yeah, I don't even know if any like American
actresses would would entertain this idea.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, I don't think. I definitely, I'm just given like
random horror movie person example, But like I just I
love how much they just are like, oh yeah, it's
fucking chove some maggots in my mouth, don't care.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, she goes for it, and it's not like you
might expect like a gross looking actress to do that.
It's not you expect it, but it might be maybe
more anticipated, I guess. But she's I think, super pretty
and to see her then like shove a mouth full
of maggots, it's like, no, she's just going for it,
like she doesn't care, she's into the role.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, it's mad res smarks for her. Yeah, because she is,
like she's the cutest possessed woman ever. Sorry, Reagan, you're
a girl new to the curb. It's since Lene, she's
she's up there.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, she's up there.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Uh. And we also have did Derek Ye Tung Sing
plays a Chung is Chung Yeah, May's boyfriend slash fiance.
And speaking of boyfriend, Derek Ye was a former boyfriend
of Hong Kong actress Maggie Chung, which I read online
and I was like, well, lucky you Derek Key, Oh yeah,

(22:06):
good job. Yeah who he acted with in the Seventh Curse.
He had a small role in that movie. But even
more interesting is that he's the younger half brother of
Shaw Brothers actor David Chang, so kind of following in
his brother's footsteps. He started acting in Shaw Brothers films
at age twenty. He acted in about forty of them
in a twelve year period. Some of those included Bat

(22:26):
Without Wings, Death Toel, Buddhist Palm, and The Sentimental Swordsman.
And he continued acting into the late nineties, but for
the last twenty five years or so he's been writing, directing,
and producing films in television series. I guess his most
popular directed films are probably Ian is probably not a fan,
but Shinjuku Incident starring Jackie Chan or Viva Erotica in

(22:52):
nineteen ninety six, which Kennie releases.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, it's almost certainly viv Rodica. I think behind the
camera he does pop off in Jaye Tiger too.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yep, I will make a case for He directed a
movie in nineteen eighty seven called The People's Hero or
the People's Hero. A lot of people would probably call
this like a dog Day Afternoon rip off. I watched
this a couple of years ago, I think, but I
gave it three and a half stars, so that to
me is like something I really liked.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, three and a half's good.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, some of the other ones like that he's been
in as far as acting goes outside of Shaw Brothers,
like Magnificent Warriors and Seventh Curse, Like I love those,
as far as Shaw Brothers goes, Black Lizard and Descendant
of the Sun, the latter being like Shaw Brothers, Superman ripoff,
super fun. So I've probably mentioned it on like previous

(23:40):
show guest episodes, But if I haven't part red.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Then we have Coup the Reporter played by Kent Tong.
This is one of his first film roles. He started
acting with some brief TV role. He was in the
Hong Kong horror Red Spell Spells Red and he had
a small part in Samo Hung's Eastern Condors. But he's
still acts, but most of his recent roles are predominantly
TV series. But he has a ton of credits.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
One of which is please story back when Jackie Chan
was good.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, and then I have u a Hua who plays
Inspector Wong. He's another Shaw Brothers regular. He started acting
with the Shaw Brothers when he was twenty acted in
roughly one hundred films with him during a twenty year period,
co starring in films like Well he Started and Come
Drink with Me. That was kind of his big breakout

(24:28):
with the studios. He's in Killer Darts obviously, He's in
The Jade Tiger. He also had some small roles and
some well known Nonshaw brother film like Rumble in the Bronx,
another one that we can applaud right for Jackie Chan.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yep, yep, he was still good then and in the.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
He was married to Nie Tien, who we've talked about
quite a bit. She's kind of in the best of
Shaw Brothers horrors, including Corps Media, Black Magic's one and
two Hex Human Lanterns. But they were for forty years until
Law passed away in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, I think most people might know him better as
Elliott Knock. But I think besides the ones that you
you mentioned, there's a couple of other Shaw brothers, like
the Web of Death that I really like. And you
did the commentary on Web of Death.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Right I did. I also did the commentary on Lady
of Steel, which he shows up in. Okay, if I
remember right, the first Black Magic film. Yes, he's definitely
in Intimate Confessions of the Chinese Quarters, in which everyone
should see.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, for sure, there's another one Shaw brother, one of
my Shaw brothers like favorites. It's a quite chea hung
movie called Payment and Blood. I've only seen this with
a German dub like I could.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Not define, but with English subtitle.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, no, no, no, none of that. Like, so this
is in the book, Like I had to watch this
with German with a German dub, and but the plot
is easy enough to figure out that I could follow
what was happening. But this is one that I really
hope gets a release and restoration so I can finally
like actually watch it. Was another one he was in,

(26:11):
Oh the Imp, which is really fun. You mentioned that
I think and then there's this other sort of gritty
crime thriller called Koolie Killer that I would recommend folks
check out too.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Nice any other cast members you guys want to chat about?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Wang Head and Chen. He plays KU's boss. He was
very prolific two hundred and fifteen credits between sixty eight
and ninety two. A couple of highlights we got to mention.
Nineteen seventy four is a version of The Seven Seas.
I don't know if you guys have seen that one
or not, co directed by Kois she Hung and Ernst Hoffbauer,
who is a German director who exploitation exploitation fans are

(26:46):
going to know for his work in the seventies on
a bunch of softcore films like The School or Report movies.
This versions of the Seven Seas is a pretty amazing
mix of seventies exploitation tropes and martial arts with lots
of naked German girls in it. And you Aha is
in the lead role on that one as well. He
also shows up in Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires,
the shaw Hammer co production, and it's pretty cool to

(27:07):
see him cast side Peter Cushing. A few other career highlights.
I have to shout out Oily Maniac anytime I can.
He shows up in that It is one of the
greatest films ever made in the history of everything. And
he's in Mighty Peeking Man, the King Kong knock off
that show brother has made a year later. He's in
thirty six Chamber of shall Inn, which isn't as good
as eight Diagram Poll Fighter. He's in Five Deli Venoms.

(27:29):
He's in Mass Avengers, He's in Corpsmania eighty one for
all those busy year for the guy legendary Weapons of China.
But there's one more guy we got to talk about,
and that's the Horny police Chief. And he's played by
low Yun who also starred in Hex after Hex, also
made in nineteen eighty two. And I don't know him
from anything else, but I really don't. But he has

(27:51):
the best death seat in the movie, which I'm sure
we'll talk about shortly.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yes, and then well, it's my second favorite, because I
think knows what my first favorite.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Is, of course, but yeah, we got to get to
the toilet paper desk shortly. That's a spoiler. Oh shit.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
But then Madam she is also played by Teresa Haping,
who I don't think we mentioned earlier. She was a
big deal in Hong Kong cinema in the late fifties
through the seventies, and she appeared in a lot of
romance and drama films and the occasional genre picture as well.
She worked with Shaw Brothers a few times in nineteen
seventies Apartment for Ladies, which is a musical comedy that
was a really big hit for them at the time.

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She also shows up in Ghost Eyes, which we covered.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
She usually always plays like this madam kind of knowledge
of person of knowledge that hold.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
At this point in her career. Yeah, like as she
got older she was like the wise older lady in
the genre films. But she pops up in Big Bad Sis,
which is excellent. She pops up in Battle Wizard, pops
up in Disco Bumpkins which Eric Is probably still needs
to watch, Yeah, and Bloody Parrot Human Lanterns using those
as well. She worked a long time. She kept working

(28:56):
until after the shows closed up, and appeared in some
nineties these films like Call Girl ninety two and Raped
by an Angel as well as Raped by an Angel
to the Uniform Fan Wow. So there you go. And
she's also in Flashpoint, the donni Enne film from I
think it's two thousand and seven, which features Donnie Ene
just like punching a lot of people in the face done.
So yeah, yeah, he's good at that.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I had her listed on my notes too, for like
her playing a mother in a couple of Cat three films,
So Raped My an Angel and Love to Kill another one.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
She was in.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
So yeah, it's kind of surprising to see her show
up in a lot of this sleazier films given that,
like in the late fifties, early sixties, even into the
early seventies, like she was. I don't know if she
was a list shraw material, but if she wasn't, she
was close.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah. Love to see it though.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
For sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Hundreds and hundreds of credits. Cool any other cast members, No,
that's all I got. Same, let's dive in.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
So I love how this thing starts. You know, first off,
the opening credits. You know, I'm always so when you
get green lit, bubbly slime and maggots and you know,
we've always talked about, I think especially for the Ghost
Eyes movie. You know, there's kind of like this Italian
horror look to a lot of a lot of these
Shop Brothers horrors with lighting and this opening. Yeah, this

(30:17):
opening sequence, it could be confused as like a teenage
mutant Ninja Turtles movie or something like an origin movements.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
But it didn't make that connection.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But you're spot on, and it has like these you know,
the very beginning too, when they're going to you know,
I already said that they go off to a little
island to celebrate May's birthday, and there's this music that's playing,
these random kind of acoustic guitar inserts that sound very
kind of cannibal Holocaust, rizz Ordolani, Fabio Fritze, Like you know,

(30:47):
obviously there's there's this Italian horror inspiration vibe that I
get from this from the very beginning.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, you meant you mentioned the birthday aspect, and when
my wife and I watched it last night, Like if
I remember correctly, the first line of dialogue in the
film is in English when Shung says to me, happy birthday,
and then he sounds very different for the rest of
the film, and I think it was just like maybe
a voice actor that they threw in there or something.
I don't know. It doesn't. It didn't seem to me

(31:13):
that like it suited his voice much. But I also know,
like a lot of times, like people from Hong Kong
when they speak Elishay do it with a slight British accent.
So maybe that was part of it. Okay, that was
just a little odd, little second.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I mean there's a lot of odd shit in.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
This comprised almost entirely of odd shit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, I can say with absolute certainty though that I
mean she seems to enjoy camping. I myself hard. No,
Like if John were to be like, I'm gonna take
you camping for your birthday, I'd be.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Like, specifically ten camping, or we'd you do cabin camping.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, I don't want to camp. Come off, no, no camping.
I do not care for it. And if John took
me camping for my birthday, would break up with him.
You don't even know who I am, Like, don't take
me out of the comfort of my home.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
You'd poke them with like a marshmallow, like a s'mores marshmallow.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I can do that over my stove, like particular coat.
I can buy some moores at the grocery store. I
don't need to like, assemble it and put it over
a campfire. No, thank you, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I almost got killed by a horde of raccoons at
a campfire once.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
See this is why you don't go camping.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, I mean, this sounds like a great story. That's
why you go camping. How many? How many raccoons?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I would love to hear it?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
A good dozen. So when I when I lived in Oregon,
my ex wife and I went camping in a park
on the Washington Coast, beautiful, beautiful spot appropriately named Cape Disappointment,
I'm not. And after a lovely night of hanging out
on the beach, we went back and we're sitting around

(32:49):
the campfire drink It's sangria, just hanging out and we
had a dog, a Chihuahua minpen mix, very tiny dog,
and the dog started growling. I was like, what's going
on here? There's something out in the woods near us.
And I was like, oh, there's a raccoon on the
other side of the fire. Okay, well it's just a raccoon,
no big deal. And then there were two raccoons, and
then there were three, and they kept multiplying, and all
of a sudden I realized I'm surrounded by like fifteen

(33:12):
raccoons and the dog is not going to be any
defense whatsoever because the dog is five and a half pounds.
So I throw the dog in the car. I tell
my ex, hey, throw everything in the car, just wait
in the car because this is getting freaky. And so
I grabbed my fishing pole and I start like poking
at the raccoons to get them to go away, and
they get up on their hind legs and start hissing
at me. So I grabbed a log out of the

(33:35):
fire that was like partially lit, and I started like
pushing at them with that, hoping that would make them
go away. So I was literally running around a campfire
with a flaming log in my hands, trying to get
raccoons to go away because I don't want to hurt animals.
I like animals for the most part, but I also
don't want a whole bunch of crazy raccoons killing my
dog or trying to bite me. So I was running
around with the flaming log. They wouldn't go away, Like,

(33:55):
they would go into the woods a little bit, and
then when I left, they would kind of come back
and encroach on us. Again. So yeah, I told my ex.
I was like, just get in the car, keep the
dog with you. And I literally threw everything in the tent,
rolled the tent up, tossed it in the back of
my car and this was like, I want to say,
about two or three in the morning, and drove five
hours back to Portland. From there, I had to stop

(34:16):
and get one of those five hour energy shots from
like the truck stop, which I had never had before,
and those are really gross, but it did get me home.
So the moral of the story is if you go
camping and Cape Disappointment, watch out for raccoons because there's
a lot on them there and they're not friendly.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well apparently like the first one was like the Warriors
one like Clang in the Bottles.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yes, yes, exactly exactly, I swear to God. Like I
grew up in Canada, my family has property in the
northern part of Ontario on a lake and every once
in a while a raccoon will walk by. Like I'm
not specifically freaked out by raccoons. I had a family
of them living under my porch when I lived in Oregon,
and I was able to get rid of them pro
tip vinegar that works. I wasn't really freaked out by them,

(34:59):
but like being surrounded by them in the middle of
the night, in the middle of the woods is a
different story, and it was. It was scary. Yeah. I
don't want to have to do that again. So I
don't think I've been camping since.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
See, camping is fun, not fun.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I mean I did enjoy it prior to that.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Well, yeah, but the raccoon's ruined to see. Something's always
going to ruin your camping trip. And it's just je cabin,
a cabin stop, trying to get me a camp stop,
trying to make camping happen.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Lance, we're going camping, camping.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
But in a cabin. But in a cabin because there
might be raccoons outside there's but we also search the
place for spiders first.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I can now picture if we have a cabin, there's
a knock on the door and we would look out
the cabin people and it's you know, just this darkened
face with the hat and you open it up and
it's raccoons in a trench coat standing up.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
We're here for you. That's That's how I'll die or
or getting back to the movie, I will either die
from an elevator or a falling air conditioner. Living in
New York right now, these are things that I genuinely
worry about on a regular basis, So especially in the
summer when everyone's got their air conditioners and their windows

(36:11):
cranked up to eleven and as I you know, i
have to walk from Grand Central Station like five blocks
to the office for my job, and as I'm walking around,
I'm like looking up. Oh my god, there's a lot
of air conditioners. You could fall on me at any moment.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, that would be a phobia mine. I mean that
that is terrifying.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I've seen enough videos of like just things falling from
apartments or buildings in cities like New York, Chicago, whatever.
It just constantly be like on guard about that.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
But yeah, I do respect how in this movie, how
no one is safe from any type of from death
or any situation, because yeah, like when Chunk's just walking
in an ac unit falls on and it just comes
out of nowhere. Matter respect, the reporter Coup's also shot
and he's kind of taken out of the picture.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, you know, you know what I respect when me
gets possessed and solves that Rubik's Cube, like a chant. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well yeah, as soon as the very beginning, she's just
like during the credits. I think it's right before he
says happy birthday. Uh, I'm like, why is she There's
got to be meeting here. This is going to be
brought up because she's been finagling with that Rubiks cube
for a while.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yep, there's a there's a lot of weird, kind of
eighties nonsense in this movie. Like I don't know how
much attention do you guys pay to dumb shit in
the background, but like that's kind of my thing, Like obviously,
like the Coca Cola and sprite. Oh hell yeah, it's
is through the roof. There's the Rubik's cube. There's a
Chung's Martini hat.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh, he loves John Travolta. He's got like the John posters.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I thought I saw, like Leaf Garrett, like, there's weird
posters on there.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
I I spent like an hour today when I was
thinking about my double feature. I was like, what other
movies featured John Travolta posters in the background on the wall.
I couldn't find any other ones. I'm sure there's multiples
out there. There's got to be like a bad porno
or something out there's a John Travolta poster in the background.
I couldn't find one, so that didn't factor to me.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
It reminded me of that I wanted it to. Is
it primal rage where there's like a random Spuds Mackenzie
surfing posts?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like and I got very excited for
a minute because in the scene, it's also one of
my favorite things in these Hong Kong films where they
call the rapist a sex maniac in the transcription. Where
in the in the apartment he's holding up those hostages,
he kicks what at first I thought was thenoid. I
thought it was an inflatable nooid. I got so excited.

(38:29):
I was like, oh my god, I had to rewind it.
I'm like, oh, it's actually just like a red bunny
with the white face.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
But have you guys, Have you guys heard about the
story about thenoid hostage story that ultimately theoretically is rumored
to cause the end of Dominoes using this as a.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Mascot that someone couldn't avoid the nooid.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
No, I have not heard this story, but I hope,
I hope. I'm going to now.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Okay, let's do it. This is this is my raccoon story.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Now I got to come up with one.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
You do, okay, So for we have a lot of
young listeners, so for I'm just going to give it
background quick. Thenoid was a mascot created for Domino's Pizza
back in the mid to late.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Eighties, so old, I know.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
And he was this creepy looking kind of like man.
I mean, he may he may not have been a man,
I don't know, but he was. It wasn't an actor.
He was usually like animated or it was like claymation,
like claymation stop motion stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Can we even assign a gender to the Nooid.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I think he's gender flu I would say he's male,
but he could be like non binary or something. Yeah,
who knows. He was like an alien or something. But
his job was to stop Dominoes from delivering pizzas to
your house. So Dominoes promised to have your pizza delivered
to you with them thirty minutes of ordering by phone.
By the way, these things called rotary phones. And so
the slogan was avoid the Nooid, right, And there were

(39:46):
tons of commercials even like Nintendo made a video game
obviously all sorts of merchandise, which is why I got
very excited when I saw this in the movie. But
it was hugely successful, profitable advertising marketing idea.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
But in early nineteen eighty nine, a mentally ill man
entered a Domino's Pizza right and Georgia, the US state
of Georgia, with a three point fifty seven magnum and
he held two employees hostage for hours because he believed
that the avoid thenoid slogan was a personal attack on him.
Why because his name was Kennethnoyd oh wow, and he

(40:23):
claimed that Domino stole his name and was making these
commercials in this advertising campaign to antagonize him. So he
demanded the employees to call the head office give him
one hundred thousand dollars. When the police showed up, he
asked for a limousine for Gez, a getaway car.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Obviously, it was a huge.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Standoff with thenoid and yeah, while he was demanding all
this money and going back and forth with the cops.
He was there for over five hours and he got hungry,
so he told the employees to make him a pizza
and when he started eating, he put his is three
fifty seven Magnum down and the employees were able to

(41:03):
run away. Yeah, the hostages ran out and he was caught.
And like months later, Domino's just killed the Wholenoid avoid
the Nooid, and they claim it wasn't because of this incident,
but come on, yeah, isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Though?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Like I kind of dove into this, Like I mean,
I'd heard about it and I was reminded of it
when I saw thenoid and I was like, okay, this
is please let.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
That be the that's in your notes for the show.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I have the hostage.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, wow, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
When Ian brought up the whole eighties, you know, that
is one of my favorite things too. When I see
these products of you know, our time popping up, I
get very excited, like I want to call Sarah and
be all Sarah this John Travolta on the on the World.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, I love that. Just like from the get go,
it sets the tone for child endangerment because you know,
mey Get's possessed. She nearly drowns a kid for stealing
their cocain' spright or one of the.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Well, going back to the coke placement, they have like
twelve unopened cans of coke and sprite on their blanket.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, and then they should it shows up in the
like there's one shot where you're looking out of a
fridge or looking at it's there, and they're sitting in
another shot where they're sitting around a table and like
one guy's got to coke, the other guy's got a sprite.
Like there's that could not have been an accident anymore
so than like j and Beep in the gall.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
It's like it's like Subway and Happy Gillmore movies or something.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Or we could change the subject from
Adam Sandler and Adulph Lungern for a second if you like,
yes please, So have you seen Kindergarten Cop two? No?
I have not, So there's a Kindergarten Cop too, and
Dolph Lungern is the star and throughout the movie he
keeps specifically requesting twigs bars well and he eats twist

(42:46):
like multiple times throughout the movie. And then I guess
I'm spoiling this, so like fast forward ahead thirty seconds
if you don't want me to spoil the end of
Kindergarten Cops. But there's a scene where Dolph you know,
being a big, beefy muscular man is pushing like a
back vending machine down a hall because guys are I
think they're shooting at him or something. It's been a
while since I watched this, and I'm not going to
watch it again. And like as them snack machines getting

(43:08):
closer and closer to the camera, the TwixT bar in
the snack camera, it's like in the.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Uh, what's the the Jean Claude band, damn Dennis Rodman movie,
Double Team, Double Team, and they like he uses a
coke machine to like push down and block the gunfire
or something like that. Anyway, it's fantastic, Like I love
I love like appliances being used like that, vending machines

(43:38):
count to me as an appliance. But but yeah, so
child endangerment near drowning at the opening, Plus we get
to the hostage situation, those kids are tied up, one
of them gets like manhandled, pulled by her hair, and
you know that's we haven't even gotten to May's spirit
possessed spirit killing you know in the flashback yet, which

(44:02):
is just like the ultimate child endangerment, like not even endangerment,
Like it's just beyond that it's so good.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Let's just we can get right to it. Like this,
This episode, I mean is like the movie itself. It's chaotic,
we're all over the place tone stories of good. It's great.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So if we want to talk about what happens to
the spirit in the past life where ultimately all these
characters are connected and related in past lives during what
is it the Japanese War or something.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
In Japanese occupation of Hong Kong. And so there's another
connection to the last film that we covered, Sex Beyond
the Grave, where it opens with really terrible assault by
a Japanese soldier Philip Coe, Philip Co during like the occupation,
during like their Black Christmas. So here the flashback where

(44:56):
we learn like where this spirit came from is that
it was little girl whose family or her mother specifically
sold her to some other people because they were just
completely out of money. Those people suffocated her, dissected her,
stuffed her with drugs, put her like on the woman

(45:19):
piggyback to cross the border, pretending like she was just sick.
Then when they got across the border, they open her up,
take out the drugs, and then a butcher happens, or
a restaurant owner happens to be walking by, sees a
little girl, cuts her up and serves her as goat
meet at his restaurant. And then if we jumped to

(45:40):
the end, she hasn't even had the end of it
yet because like when she's possessed as May she gets
burned to death then eaten by stray dogs.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Yeah, keep very cute stray dogs, by the way.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Worth it, though, if you can solve a Rubus cuban
like twenty seconds.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I would, Yeah, I would totally take over. I'd be
possessed it.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I could do that.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
That's a great party.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Did you guys notice though? Like during the World War
two flashback scene, Again, this is like my OCD about
watching things in the background rather than what the central
characters are doing in a movie. So like during the
Jack and Japanese occupation scene, it looks like in the
background there's a Japanese soldier taking pictures of a naked woman.
You see, there's like doing like a weird orno shoot

(46:23):
or something in the background, And then I think she
might get raped off killed, raped off screen, and then
she's dead.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, I think so, Like I mean, they they're definitely
like groping and manhandling the attractive young women and then yeah,
one of them gets pulled off to the side strips
and then he starts taking photos of her. I assumed
she got raped, even though they didn't. Surprisingly didn't show it, right,
But yeah, it's it's just I think it's just one

(46:50):
of those things that's just further emphasizing like, look, how
shitty the.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Japanese are with obviously super common in my Just Shop
Brothers films, but yeah, but it's funny films in general.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Men behind the Sun or something.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, and I got Men behind the Sun vibes from
the Fire Vaccine because maybe that's just because I like,
literally rewatched it a week ago for the first time.
I did too a couple of decades. Did you really Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
They had one of the actors, the guy, the guy
who was holding them hostage. There was a chow king pin.
He's the maniac in it. So he had I mean,
he had a bunch of small roles and like bangers,
you know, five Deadly Venoms, five Element Ninja's crippled Avengers
kid with the Golden Arm, but he's also in TF
moves Men behind the Sun, so there's your connection to that.

(47:39):
But I think it's funny that they have this happening
at the border, like, oh look, how shitty the the
Japanese were When it's like these these people literally have
a dead.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Child on their back. Yeah, it's like a whole hey,
look over here, look over here.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
And yeah that's so that's obviously my favorite death in
it because it's just the most one of the most
unhinged child deaths ever. The second favorite, though, is, of course,
Inspector Hoey And you brought it up earlier.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
So horny boss, cornycop boss.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Cornycop boss. I know, I gotta let you talk about
it because it's it's so good.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
So May once she's possessed slash gained weird supernatural superpowers.
I love that she uses her ghost superpowers to fudge
a letter of recommendation. Oh yeah, yeah, she gets the promotion.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah, she changes from like doubtful behavior to superb and
I'm like, this is magic.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
And then her new bosses is the horny police chief
guy who cources her into going through a disco and
so she's out there dancing with him and he's kind
of a bit of a dick. But then they go
back to her place and he wants to get it on.
She's like, yeah, all right, we'll get it on, but
you got to have a bath first, probably because like
he's greasy and gross, that's what I'm thinking. I was like,
it's just into hygiene, right, that's fair fine, Yeah, spect

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we've all been there. And then he gets in the
bathtub and his dick gets cut off by a crab.
And then he gets out of the bathtub holding himself,
blood everywhere, and then haunted toilet paper starts wrapping its
way around his face and his deck.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
The world's strongest toilet paper.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
World's strongest, and then he's it's death by crab castration,
toilet paper strangulation. I don't know how to describe it,
but it was amazing. And if nothing else, if the
rest of that movie had just been like, I don't know,
Bette Midler reading the phone book, I wouldn't have cared,
because that scene in and of itself makes it worth
sitting through ninety minutes of nonsense. Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, yeah, that scene is probably my favorite of the
death scenes for sure, just because how it feels like,
I mean, later on especially, it feels like you're you're
just jumping into like a night run Elm Street dream sequence,
you know, like where this inspector Hoe right now is
in he's dreaming and Freddy's having a good time with
him right now.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yeah, I mean earlier you had dumb Sis and Lady
Killer die in the elevator, which was I mean, good
dummy drun because good yeah, good dummy drops. So you
gotta love that part of it too.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
But I loved it, But I feel like it should
have been a little more splattery when they drop, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, I thought like limbs would fly off or something.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, it was just kind of like lying there.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
I mean, especially since like they were, you know, the
mean girls and like bullying her, like they they should
have got I mean, obviously they're dead, so there's that,
but you know a little bit, a little bit, Uh,
it would have been fun if maybe like she threw
up some toilet water on them too. I don't know,
like she seems to like it.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I think I think one toilet water puke regurgitation scene.
I don't know. It might not mean After I watched
this movie, I watched a YouTube documentary about Lucifer Valentine,
So maybe I'm just thinking, oh, slaughter, vomit dolls. That
movie was gross and I don't need. I don't eat
any more puke in my life, especially people eating puke.

(51:03):
So it's it's all relative, I guess.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, yeah, And well I'm pouring it on top of
your head too, Like that was She's like cool enough.
There's a lot going on in that.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
There was a lot and she was kind of like
eating her own vomit. H that's not that's yea. I can't.
I can't. I can't abide that.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I mean I the first time I watched it, I
think my my jaw literally dropped. I was like, oh, okay, wow,
because like she's she's not faking it. There literally is
water that she is scooping from the toy I mean,
unless like they had it like something in the toilet
that we couldn't see from the angle it was shot.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Like I in my head, it's probably just a fake
toilet with fake fake.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I don't know in my head, she's toilet water.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
I was eighty. I mean, it's true, yeah, probably drinking
out of a toilet. They probably are. But bonus points
also for like towards the end of the movie, where
you get that weird soup with the eyeballs and the
other body parts in it. I'm pretty sure I saw
a nose or two in the soup as well.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah that was Inspector was it Spector Wong's or hose?

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, remains yeah yeah, and then followed shortly by
a weird scene with like some flaming spiked balls flying
around it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
The ending, I mean, let's go to the final ending.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I mean like this it had.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
This has a lot of the Shaw Brothers staples, which
we've talked about. The worms, the slime.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
There's a lot of animal desks. There's a two birds.
You got a chicken and then got the bird in
the cage.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
They got the cobra.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Maybe the dog like they they implied that he shot
it in his dream when he was in the office,
but I don't I didn't count that one.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
There's kind of there's kind of this wizard battle at
the end that's sort of in this ghost to mention
that they're in.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
But yeah, it turns into the ghost mention in the car.
There's the whole scene with the car where where May
is like trapped in the car and the car is
surrounded by like Buddhist iconography and symbols and like the
hopping vampire.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, yeah, spiky notes are.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
There, and there's blood everywhere. And then it's cross cutting
with the surgery.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Right too, and like in like the getting rapes and
murdered in the shower.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, And that's weird because it starts off kind of
humorous because it's not a rape at first. It's just
kind of like a little ass grabbing, right, and like
why is that nurse's ass so exposed in the hospital.
I don't know, but it was, And I mean, I
guess it's weird. Good for him that he had a
sexy nurse being like, hey, check it out, but like
it's it's inappropriate to grab a nurse's ass in the hospital,

(53:22):
of course, but I couldn't help laugh at it because
it's just so ridiculous. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, Yeah,
and then all of a sudden, she's in the shower
and like it suggests she's sexually assaulted before she's killed
in the shower too, And that's like the most exploitative
moment of the film. I think was like I didn't
see that coming because there's not there isn't really any
sex at all, except for like that weird bit in

(53:44):
the background that I mentioned with the World War two flashback, right,
So you think compare that to a lot of the
other Shop Brothers films where there's like, you know, they're
making spells by shaving women's pubic hair off and like
crazy stuff like that. This doesn't have that. And then
it goes into like this one scene kind of out
of know or with this nurse who has no character
development whatsoever. I don't even know she's named. She's just there.

(54:06):
And then like she's the subject of like this completely
gratuitous scene. And it almost felt to me like the
the directors, the producers or whatever, like you know what,
this is going, well, but we need we need some
weird sex stuff in this, and so it's kind of
thrown in there at the last minute, maybe just to
kind of check that box. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Well, what I love about that scene in particular is
so he's on the surgery table and this is all
happening while like the cars, like the windows are rolling
up the car, the whole the car is itself is
being turned into a talisman, and I fucking love it,
Like I love that scene. And then she gets out
and like the you've got the eight diagram, uh like

(54:41):
the fire fire pit thing going on. So guy is
on the surgery table and then he flat lines and
the doctors just like shrug. They're like, oh, well dead,
no CPR.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
And they start taking off.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
And then when he comes back to life, is you know,
he grabs her ass and then you have the sexual assaulting.
I didn't know. I was like, who's assaulting her? Like
I didn't realize like he had split right.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
At this point, like May is kind of splitting him
through the whole evil ash evil dead thing.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's a comparison.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Yeah, I didn't understand. Like what I'm like, who's she's
being assaulted by? Is like are we going into like
entity territory now? Like what's happening? But like yeah, completely
out of nowhere. The ending is completely unhinged. You get
twins technically kind of in a way. Maybe yeah, so,
but I I love everything about this ending, about this movie,

(55:34):
about how it just goes there.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
The last twenty three aspects. Yeah, the last twenty five
minutes are just fucking nuts. Like it's it's as soon
as they do that flashback. Seemed like as soon as
that's introduced. First off, you know, you're kind of in
shock at what you just witnessed, and they don't they
don't slow down, you.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Know that, they're just like just wait, like, yeah, I
feel all are so like the middle stretch drags a
little bit, but once you get to that that final
third of the movie, it's like, yeah, I'll bets are offward.
They're just going for it.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
May starts turning into trees and into doors and it's
feel it feels yeah, and that whole scene, that whole
little it's like a I don't know, maybe a five
minute period where I don't know if it was Coup
at this point or Chung where they're fighting, and yeah,
it felt very like Nightmare on Elm Street dream sequence,
like it was just really wild.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Well, you could also tie in the whole the whole
weird bathtub seed at Nightmare Elm Street a bit too.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the crab thing, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
It's it's not a it's not a Freddy Krueger fright glove,
but it's a still yeah, still pitch. I wouldn't want
to be naked in the tub with one of those things.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Yeah, But does Nightmare and Elm street have a coffin
full of maggots.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah, Falling Yeah doesn't not have haunted toilet paper either. Inferior, Yes,
completely inferior.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
It doesn't have a creepy song about poppies.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Either, that's true.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah, that seems to be like, yeah, like a little
throwback that because that is one of my favorite scenes
in the very beginning, when May and her boyfriend are camping,
she has that dream and you see that little creepy
it's when the very end with the demons all no, no,
no no, and like flies away. It's great foreshadowing. It's
super super creepy.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Yeah, and that song recurs like what maybe three or
four times throughout the movie, and it's like it's a
pretty song, I guess, but like when you look at
the lyrics, you're like, this is morbid.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Yeah, it is which the movie is.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
And it works.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Yeah, it totally works with all of it. Everything is
just off the rails and over the top in this
and I think this is this for me, This is
definitely top five Shaw Brothers horror.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I think, yeah, it's new to me still, I'd like
to do I'm going to do another rewatch and stuff
like you know, they're a year late later, so but
it's right away. I was just blown away by it
because it's really good.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Top five I don't know, I'd have to sit down
and like make a list, and it's good. It's really good.
It's really good. One thing that I did notice that
I thought was kind of atypical is there's there's no
martial arts in it. Not all there's a brawl, but
like no one's you know, using any like kung fu
moves or anything like that. They're just kind of like
shoving each other around. It's like like a bar brawl

(58:15):
type scene towards the end. But yeah, no martial arts
though there is a martial arts coordinator credited.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Yeah, I saw that on the HK MDB. I was like,
who's martial arts choreographer on this?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Why?

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Like would they do? I'm like, big got a paycheck?
Good for them?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah. Just one thing I want want to mention the
ghost photograph. Oh yeah, yeah, I thought this was super rad.
And have you guys seen Shutter, the tai film from
two thousand and four. No, no, okay, So it's directing
I'm gonna butcher these names co directed by Banjong Piss

(58:53):
Sanna I can't do thy names. I'm so sorry. Pissanthonaka
Park Pum.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
That's okay. We don't have any listeners in Taiwande and Wangpum.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
So there is a sequence in that film that almost
directly mimics the ghost sequence from this film, and I
can't imagine that they weren't influenced by it. It would
be a very strange coincidence. There's been stranger coincidences before,
of course, And like spirit photography, ghost photography, it exists
in Asia just like it exists in North America. So
I guess it could be just a coincidence. But it's

(59:24):
so close that I feel like these guys saw this
movie and and maybe can incorporate a little bit about it.
The other thing I want to mention, I don't know
if either one of you tracked down the one sheet
for the movie. No, I want to throw So the
one sheet for the movie is gorgeous. It's it's May's
face and a chunk's face, and the top lit in
like a kind of a pinkish red with that weird

(59:46):
like kind of ceremonial dagger. It looks like a letter
opener kind of yeah yeah, And then there's like some
some kind of like goold things in the background, and
like some Buddhist iconography in there that I probably I
don't understand, but I ran the Chinese language one sheet
through Google Translate to kind of to figure out like
what it's saying, because I don't speak Chinese, and the

(01:00:08):
text on the left side and the right side of
the screen say a time where day and night are
not distinguished, a state or yin and yang are not distinguished.
And then on the other side it says a body
that doesn't distinguish between life and death, a demonic world
where humans and ghosts are indistinguishable. So distinguished shows up
a lot on that one, which is kind of weird.

(01:00:30):
But yeah, the one sheet is beautiful. I would love
to own one, but I can't find one for sale
for less than two hundred dollars, so I have to
make do with the high rise image I downloaded off
with the Internet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
We didn't talk about the bullet I thought the bullet
scene was very uh you know, Ku has the fastest
shutter speed ever on that camera to be able to
touch some might say impossibly fast. I kind of got
like him being like a Jimmy Olsen figuring out he's
Jimmy Olsen figuring out may might be Superman, and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
So that's like his whole Like, I like what you're
saying there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I'm not gonna I'm not going to break into Spin
Doctors Jimmy Elson's blues.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
That was actually the lance what's in your pocket right now?
Is it full of Kryptonite? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
After this, I think we should do Islands in the Stream?
Do I just record it and not what we're going
to close it up?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I have a spin doctor's story. Well, okay, it doesn't
directly involve the Spin Doctors. Is really short, so Erica
doesn't want to hear it, but she's gonna hear it anyway.
So when I was in high school and the spin
Doctors were really popular, I had really long hair and
I don't know, it was like the Lolla Fluoza era
and it was cool to wear a poncho. At least, yeah,
it was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I live in Areo Grand Valley. Though I got it
from Mexico, I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Lived in Niagara Falls, Ontario. It had nothing to do
with it. There were no Mexicans that I'm aware of.
It was just like, yeah, people who got like you know,
devil sticks and hacky sacks and you should wear ponchos
and yeah, and the Spin Doctors were cool, but I
was never really into the Spin Doctors per se. I
was like listening to nice nails because I was edgy,
but I still looked kind of like a guy who
might listen to Spin Doctors. And so anyway, I was

(01:02:02):
walking down the stairs in high school one day and
my friend was walking the other direction. He's like, hey, man,
you look like the singer from the Spin Doctors. I
was like shit, and I cut my hair after. I
never wore a blotcho again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
That's probably a good call.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Yeah, you can edit that out if you want.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Everyone's got to know your history, and it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I have no shame, all right with that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Let's do double features and what's what would you pair with?

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Okay, so I get to go first. It's kindergarten cop too, No,
it's not. Parts of it reminded me of carry Yeah,
I got that too. Yeah, parts of it reminded me
a fire starter. But after like literally like kind of
google searching, like some of the themes that the movie
came up with, and like looking for movies that worked
on a similar level. I came up with the Zeleski's

(01:02:47):
Possession maybe one, okay, because if you think about it,
like both movies feature a woman kind of losing her
sanity to something that's out of her control, supernatural element,
I guess you could say, and both features some really
over the top acting from the female leads. Hell has
no boundaries, obviously a lot less hysterical than Possession is.
But I feel like the kind of follow a similar path.

(01:03:07):
They deal with similar themes and ideas, and they both
feature very attractive actresses in the lead role.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
That's good, yeah, Eric, So I'm going with another Hong
Kong movie because I wanted to do like, keep with
the possession theme in it. So I'm going with a
movie from nineteen eighty four called Possessed two. I don't
even know if there is a first one. I think

(01:03:34):
they just called them Possessed too, which would track for
Hong Kong. But this is about a family who moves
into a new apartment because they get it for a
great deal, but it turns out it's so cheap because
it's haunted. Kind of similar to Sex beyond the Grave
in that way. But the wife and daughter become possessed
by the spirits of the woman named Lucy and her
son who died in the nineteen fifties under kind of

(01:03:58):
like fucked up circumstances, and so it has a lot
more humor than Hell has no boundary, but it also
has a lot more gore in nudity, so I think
it kind of levels up in that respect. I think
you could go either way with like which one plays first,
because they're both so unhinged, you know either way goes.

(01:04:20):
But I would go with Possessed too for a double feature?

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Nice Ian?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Have you seen that one?

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I have not. I'm writing it down because it sounds
like I should.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
It's fun lance, what about you? Double feature?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
So a few films popped in my head. Obviously, with
the Italian lighting all the gross practical effects, I thought
Luigi Kotsi's a Black Cat could just be a nice
visual feast. The wild, unhinged kind of dreamlike quality had
me think of Beyond Dream Store for a bit. Oh,
just because it's complete chaos.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
I can totally see that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Yeah, But then I actually saw somebody actually recommended that
as a double feature, and I don't want to steal theirs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
I steal all the time, all the time. I lie
all the time. I steal like you gotta get you
gotta like let your evil side in a little bit
more lance. Well, yeah, it can't always be me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Well it's out there, that's beyond beyond dreams. Door is
a good one, but I Erica's sov rubks cubes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
There's toilet paper floating around me, right, what is happening?

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
And I got the extra strong Sharman, so you better
watch out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I thought the same thing that Ian had just mentioned
to de Paulma's carry with the child with the powers.
Obviously there's a terrible mother in both both of these,
the terrible mother and the flashback for Hell has No Boundary,
And I'm sticking along those lines. And you mentioned it
Firestarter nineteen eighty four. One nice child having you know,

(01:05:46):
kind of not having complete control over their powers, but
still kind of getting what they want to, you know,
using them to get what they want. The scene that
really did it, there's a couple of scenes in Hell
Has No Boundaries that really did it for me. May
when she's drinking the puke and fighting, you know, the
sister trying to exercise her Inspector Wong, her brother. We
get this close up shot of her with her hair

(01:06:07):
blowing and this light shining bright behind her, and it's
very kind of Drew Barrymore with kind of a stoic
stare causing that death and damage.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
A few times.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Yeah, that stair, that leanne loose stair. But you mentioned
those flaming maces too, and that kind of looked like
those flaming balls that she controls at the end of
fire Starter, and they both kind of end in this
this fiery madness, this huge burning fire. So also may
like Charlie can control bullets, so may you know Charlie

(01:06:38):
detonates bullets at the end and stuff. So, yeah, fire Starter,
I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with that one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
If if one of you had picked Possession of fire
Starter was going to be my number two pick. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
So I have a story about Prodigy, the band that's
saying Firestarter. I'm the fighes stat I'm just kidding. I
don't have a I don't I'm sorry, I don't have anything.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
You can't you can I can make one up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
I broke up with a guy who uh said that
was his favorite band.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
That's I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
It's a good story.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Uh, anybody having other good stories they want to share.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
I tried to come up with something to share, but
I'm going to I'm going to be the loser.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
And how much time you got?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
We got the raccoons, we got the Millid hostage situation,
we got spin doctors, and we got Erica breaking up
with a prodigy fan. I think I think that about
covers it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
First off, thanks for being on s August. Thanks for
everybody for participating with our month of August. But we're
moving into September. Yes, what's our next pick?

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
So next pick is one that I have had on
my potentials for the podcast list for a very very
long time. And luckily this got a bluer release in
a box set which I don't own, but it is
on tub for the people like me who don't own
the box side too. So we are going to be

(01:08:07):
covering Eloy de la Iglesias The Glass Ceiling from nineteen
seventy one. This has a lot of very apt comparisons
to Rear Window. Yeah, Lance, I'm speaking Lance's language right now,
as well as a very Jollo flavored So this is
about a woman named Marta who she lives with her

(01:08:29):
husband Charles, on a property that's owned by Richard, who's
a sculptor. When Charles goes out of town for work,
Marta becomes like a stir crazy, busybody at home and
she starts to hear and see strange things and suspects
that her upstairs neighbor Julia, has killed her own husband.
There's a photography element in this as well, so hence,

(01:08:50):
again like the rear window aspect of it, it builds
really slowly, but it never feels like it's moving slowly.
It's really interesting in that way. So I just watched
this last week when I saw it was finally on
two B. It is on the House of Psychotic Women
Volume two box set. If anybody has that and has
not watched it yet, yeah, but if if you don't

(01:09:13):
have the set, it's on two B and as of
this recording, it has seven hundred and eighty two views
on letterboxed. So I got to it before it cracked
a thousand. Very excited about that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
It's a good film. It's very good film. I've never
seen it. I watched it when the box that film
or the box that came out, and I don't know
deliglesia is filmography, like Severan's been doing a great job
and covering a lot of that stuff. Yeah, he's true,
the fact that they're they're putting it out there because
until they started, you know, digging through his stuff, I
really only knew him from the same film everybody else
knows him from, right, Yeah, Candleman. So it's it's cool

(01:09:45):
that movie. Yeah, it's a great movie. Yeah, but this
is Lance. You haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I have not seen the glass ceiling here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
No, Okay, I'm excited for this too, like yeah, yeah,
and I saw that you had you had seen this
and talked about it. But they we also Severn also
put out the kin Key set, which is like his
like Youth Gone Wild kind of movies. So I haven't
we have that. I haven't watched any of those yet,
so I'm going to dig into those watch that. I'm

(01:10:14):
excited to talk about this, but want to reiterate to
you know what Lance said. Thanks to everyone who participated
in sh August. I know I wasn't as active in
it this month as I you know, we have been
in the past, but I appreciate everyone who even if
you weren't sharing in our discord, I did see a
lot of people I follow on letterbox watching Shaw Brothers

(01:10:35):
movies and using the Shaugust hashtag, which I feel like
I should trademark at this point, like there's got to
be money in it somehow, like I need a way
to quit my job. I know, I just felt like it.
I know, but I'm already like ugh, like that, Yeah,
you need to trademark that shit you need there's no
way to make money off of it. It's and again

(01:10:55):
to reiterate, Ian, we love having you every year. Thank
you so much for coming back and talking about this movie,
sharing your stories about you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Know, raccoons, No anytime, anytime. I love being on here.
You guys are great. Even the episodes I'm not on
I listened to because the podcast is just a lot
of fun and it's hit me to a couple of
movies I've not been aware of before, which is always
a treat.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
That's what we want to hear. Ian. You run Rockshock Pop,
which we've talked about every time you're here, and we
love it. Everyone should check out that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Forum celebrating its fifteenth birthday and a couple of fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Congrats on that. Yeah, anything and everything you love concerning music, movies, comics.
It's a it's a cool site.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Yeah, check it out because really, I'm not gonna lie.
Social media has beat the shit out of the site
and it is some days challenging to keep it going. Yeah,
but I'm going to keep doing it as long as
I'm having fun with it and I'm still having fun
with it. So and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Yeah, And that site's fun and social media is not fun.
I agree, speaking to someone who has left all the
things that I can at this point. So, but speaking
of social media, where can folks find you to follow
you on social media?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
And me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
I mean, I'm on Twitter, rockshockpop dot com. I just
post links. I don't interact there because it's Twitter and
fuck that shit. But blue Sky same handle Instagram Ian
Jane seventy five. That's not really a movie related. It's
mostly meat posting pictures of beers that I'm drinking or
comics that I'm reading.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
And your podcast, yeah podcast, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
You can do Queen'scomic Party dot com, which is the
website for a comic book show in the New York
City area that my friend runs that I help them with.
And my friend who does that, his name is Billy,
and Billy and I do a podcast on Spotify and YouTube.
We try to do it every week, but we're a
month behind because I was on vacation and he got sick.

(01:12:46):
Called the Queen's Comic Podcast because it's just two guys
from Queens sitting around talking about comics they like. It's
very informal, it's banter. If you like witty banter about
comic books, then that's the show for you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Oh yeah, and if you're not already, you can follow
our podcast on Instagram at Unsung Horrors. I'm on letterboxed
at Hex Massacre. I'm on Instagram too, x Massacre.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, I'm on both those platforms at l Shiby.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Thanks once again to Ian for joining us, and thanks
everyone for listening. We'll see you back next episode for
the Glass Ceiling.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Hi great, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Thanks, Thanks, bye.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
Hello, and welcome to Tumbleweeds and TV Cowboys. My name
is Hunter.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
In this podcast, I'll be joined by a different guest
each week to discuss a class to western movie or
TV show I've been a fan of classic westerns for
as long as I can remember, and in recent years
they've become very nostalgic for me. I love the esthetic,
the tropes, and I love seeing different filmmakers takes on
them at their best. They're incredibly entertaining, rewatchable, and some
of my all time favorite movies are Westerns. We'll mostly

(01:15:18):
focus on Western movies made in Hollywood, but we'll also
be covering spaghetti westerns. And one thing I'm very excited
to get into our Western TV shows. I've got some
amazing guests coming on the show, film professors, historians, and
podcasters and Tumbleweeds and TV Cowboys is part of the
Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network, and many guests on the
show will be from other shows on the network.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
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