July 30, 2025 • 56 mins
There is no shortage of film and television adaptations of Poe's short story, and we're covering another one, this time from 1966 from director Harold Hoffman. We also spend more time than we should discussing his nature documentary, Sex and the Animals, so consider this an educational episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Prepare yourself for the terror the prison of madness. We
have few inter and Nonritter.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to Unsung Horrors.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
With LUNs.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And Denica. Leave all your sanity behind. It can't help
you now. Hello and welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors,
the podcast where we review underseen horror films, specifically those
with less than one thousand views on letterboxed. I'm Lance,
I'm Erica, and this is our Wild Animals having Sex episode.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yes, in case you are not in our discord, we
did announce that we are now an animal porn podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yes, so we invite everybody to join. Bring up you know,
there's no kink shaming, Bring up your fantasies, bring up
what you bring up, any animals you want to see.
We will be talking about animals fucking this episode. Okay,
so I guess get prepared to be turned on. That's
what I'm getting at. I know I'm terrible, but no, seriously,
(01:20):
So this episode's film does involve.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Animals, yes, but not thankfully nos. Yeah, no reality with
the kiddie.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah no.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We will be diving into this director's film called sex
and the animals, probably talking about it admittedly more than
the Black Cat, which is the film we're covering for
this episode, another adaptation of egg All and Poe's Wonderful
short story. This is the second time we're covering it.
We did it was our second episode ever that we
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recorded in separate locations in twenty twenty during COVID Luigi
kat SI's Black Cat, which was a fun episode. This
one is from nineteen sixty six, directed by Harold Hoffmann.
As of this recording, it has six hundred and seventeen
logs on letterbox. You can find it streaming on two
B It's on YouTube and apparently This Black Cat was
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thought to be a lost film until the late Great
Mike Rainy, the head of Something Weird Video, He discovered
a print back in the early two thousands. So the
first time it was made available was thanks to the
Great Something Weird, who put out a DVD in two
thousand and one as a Black Cat double feature, the
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other film being The Fat Black pussy Cat from nineteen
sixty three. And apparently that DVD has special features a
lot for this pussy Cat movie, but it has a
deleted prologue for the Black Cat, and I'm wondering what
that'll be. I'm wondering if it's that adorable. Did you
see the version where it's like the cat's playing with
the yarn and it says like for your information, this
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isn't restrict. I wonder if that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Maybe that or even just like the him reciting a
lot line from pose yeah thing with like and it's
all like the it's all scratchy and stuff. Maybe that's it.
It could at the very beginning. Yeah, that would make sense.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, because that because that one you watched a version
that had that.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
They both did our YouTube Man two B had that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh yeah, I think you're right. I thought it just
started off with the guy like reciting po That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Oh yeah, well the YouTube one has the cats with
the disclaimer, right, and then both versions have the guy
reciting po.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay at the lake or.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe that is a prologue. Maybe that's
the version that's up like everywhere. And Severn also released
a limited edition box set in twenty nineteen called Hemisphere
Box of Whores. Do you have that? No? It was
limited to thirty five hundred copies. Hemisphere Pictures is the
Philippine US production distribution company you know, they did a
lot of sixty seventies v whores, including the Black Cat,
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and in the Severn set, the Black Cat is included
as a double feature Blu ray disc with the Torture
Chamber of Doctor Sadism, which is interesting. Yeah, and the
other films are The Blood Drinkers Curse of the Vampires
in al Adamson's Brain of Blood. So I looked it up.
People are reselling it for you know, an ungodly amount
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of money, and so if you got any listeners, have it. Good,
good job. Yeah, the Black Cat. Everybody knows the Poe story.
If you don't, well, there's gonna be spoilers ahead. Actually
just pause this and read it. It's like a couple
of pages.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, it's just very long.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But in this version we have an unstable writer named
Lou who is gifted a black Cat as an anniversary
gift by his lovely wife Diana, and Lou is a
complete asshole. He gets drunk, he taunts all his exotic pets,
offering champagne to his raccoon, messing with his two can,
being a total dick to his pet monkey, point hot
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coffee on him. We're going to talk about his you know,
his room of caged exotic pets. Later and he inevitably
murders the black Cat, whose name Pluto by the way,
just like impose short story. Obviously, he's a bit insane.
So after a stint in an asylum, including some much
needed shock treatment, Lu gets released but soon starts drinking again.
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He gets another black Cat that he finds in a
water fountain, and he starts believing that Pluto has returned
from the dead to get his revenge again. We kind
of all know how it ends, but we will be
getting into that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's immortal classic of horror and hate.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
The Black Cat.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The most terrifying story ever filmed.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Fill me a cat, I thought you were my friend,
Black Damon? He does?
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Nowhere he goes?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Can he escape the torment of the Black pat.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So this is directed by Harold Hoffman, and I couldn't
find much about him looking at his resume, though in
his affiliation with Texas filmmaker Larry Buchanan, he's clearly a Texan.
He has a handful of writing, directing, and producing credits.
Almost all of them are associated with Larry Buchanan. And
for those just for some like you know, some background
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Larry Buchannon. He was pretty much like a poor man's
Texas version of Roger Corman, you know, very low budget,
pumped out a lot of sci fi horror films. A
lot of them were like repurpose stolen ideas from existing
Corman films. Yeah, and he made films. Most of his
films were made with for under two thousand dollars or
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twenty thousand dollars. He made a few films that were
under ten k, very diy stuff. Most of them, if
not all of them, were filmed in and around Texas,
which is always fun to watch being a Texan. I
hate to admit that, you know, Texas sucks, but it's
cool to see cool landmarks. But I was reading more
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about him and his basic formula is having a cast
of about four actors and two basic indoor locations, which
is very much what we're seeing here.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, that's exactly what this is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Usually in Buchanan films. There was a poorly constructed monster
with like ping pong balls for eyes, which we always love.
I read if he couldn't afford to rent special cameras
and equipment and wanted to shoot like a fight scene
or any type of slow motion scenes, he would have
his actors pretend to move in slow motion and that
would be in the movie. Also, it took time to
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synchronize sound, so in his films. Most of his films
have very minimal dialogue, which we also see in The
Black Cat, and he would do a lot of voiceover narration.
He was referred to as the Schlockmeister for his arguably
poorly made films, which he nickname, he embraced, he loved.
But Hoffman, the director for The Black Cat, was an
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assistant for Buchanan for most of his film career, so
it's easy to see a bunch of similarities between The
Black Cat and a lot of Larry buchanan DIY films.
If you're familiar with a lot of his movies. I'd
argue that The Black Cat looks way better than any
Buchanan film I've watched so far, and mainly it's because
of a cinematographer who will get to here in a bit,
but I think Larry Buchanyon would be a fun director
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to dive into at some point. Anyways, The Black Cat
is really Hoffman's only film which you can kind of
rate his ability as a director because his only other
directing credit is something we had just been talking about.
He was going by Hal Dwayne in this credit. It's
a documentary called Sex in the Animals from nineteen sixty nine,
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which is basically a collection of pre recorded segments of
animals just going at it.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, with a couple of supervising zoologists or biologists.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Or yeah, e college or whatever. They're just they just
walk along the beach picking up rocks and narrating this thing. Yeah,
but we have to talk about this documentary.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It's sorry, sorry folks, but if you watch it, we
put it. I put a link to the movie in
our discord. It's on my Google drive. It's public. You
can you can watch it if you want.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's ninety six minutes long. Yeah, so there's a lot
of it's it's very informative and it's not just like
music playing over animals mating. You get a lot of information.
And I actually have, like.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I learned quite a few things.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I have a lot. I have a half page of
a few interesting Okay, I have like five things. Well, yeah,
I guess my go go lance. Yeah, I get a
little wordy on my bullet points here.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I I think both of our reviews on letterbox of
this are about this are the same thing because the opening.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's a cold open, and this fucking thing starts with
a male and female turkey obviously catching each other's eye,
slowly walking up to each other while a fucking sitar
is playing like a beautiful melody, and this very you know,
(10:16):
huge male turkey starts mounting the female turkey and it's
a utter chaos. It's the music's a little it's it's
it's terrifying.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Well like one of his feet, clawed feet, pinning her
head down. And I was like, is this the tone
that we're setting for this movie? No kickshaming if she
wants to be strangled, you know whatever, Like I don't.
I'm not going to kink shame humans. I'm not going
to kink shame animals. As long as everything is consensual,
it's all good. But this opening, I was like, is
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this what I'm really going to be watching for the
next ninety minutes?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It turns into like a national geographic something you might
watch like in a nineteen seventies biology class.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I would have actine. It's very much like this felt
like something I could have watched in my biology class
in high school. Yeah, I do feel though that it
feels a bit wrong to watch something like this without
David Attenborough. Okay, like I feel like he should be
narrating all of these things, like and watching it without
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his voice just felt wrong. Like can you imagine David
Attenborough coming in during the horse fluffer scene where like
and he's just like and now we have the stable
owner coming in to prepare the stallion to mount the
mayor and you can see his hand like, you know,
(11:43):
rubbing the this is essential, Like I can't. I obviously
I do a terrible David Attenborough, but him talking about
a stallion's penis would just be the greatest.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
It's amongst that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, and obviously I kind of went into this knowing, Okay,
the horse fucking and will probably be the most graphic. Sure,
but I think the rhinos actually took that. There's a
zebras and then they have the rhinos, which is very graphic.
But yeah, they have pigs, beavers, geese, geckos, pelicans, frogs,
fish just going at it. No ducks, sorry, Jim, Yeah
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there's no ducks.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, but apparently I didn't know that pigs have a
quark screw pinus.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, and they showed it. It was Yeah, it looked
like something from the thing like it was. It was
just like popped out in the kind of mind of
its own. One of my favorite quotes though, that I
feel like you'd appreciate Erica is the female biologist. She
was like a male moth can smell a female moth
from miles away.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I already put that out of my brain.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Sorry, I know if everybody doesn't already that Erica loves moths,
that's not even funny. She loves me. They scent live
moths in the male.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
They need to die, all every one off this planet.
I don't care what animal they feed, I don't care
where they sit in the fucking circle of life. They
all need to fucking die.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's the scle of life.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Okay. So my favorite quote from this and I don't
know if it's necessarily a quote, but it was more
so like one of the ecologists or whoever, saying something
about this particular animal. They said that female humpback whales
are nicknamed the prostitutes of the sea because she accepts
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the male as fast as he can present himself. First
of all, rude very rude, not very sex positive, like.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
No, yeah, no, I'm scratching that one off of my
list of notes here too, because that when I heard that,
I was like, oh, Eric is gonna have something to
say about this, the prostitute of the sea.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
That's how dare you ecologist? Person? Like whatever, some.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Of the other fun facts that I have, let's share
what we have here. Male kangaroos have forked penises to
match the two vaginas that female kangaroos have, so the
forked penises shoot sperm in each vagina during sex.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, and then there's those seals that have the forked
uterus so that they can just constantly be pregnant, which
good Lord, that is just sounds like the saucing thing ever,
Like even just normal pregnancy bad enough. But then it's like, oh,
you have your baby. Oh your other vagina are your
other uterus is free? Why not fill that up?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
It's like, God, Yeah, that's the terrible existence. Sorry, God
is a cruel person if you believe in the Creator.
Speaking of seals, the penis bone of a walrus was
so large that Eskimo's club seals over their head when
hunting them.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That's a terrible thought.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
During colonial days, it was chic to carry a curved
raccoon penis bone on a vest chain to use as
a toothpick ew. Yeah, bears like to masturbate. That's a
little one I have here from them. Yeah, I think
everybody does, right. Yeah, male rabbits like to piss on
females as an aphrodisiac, and during pregnancy, female rabbits grow
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a membrane over their vagina to padlocket from the male
rabbits to go at it again.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Okay, yeah, I like the what are those things called
chassaity bill check?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be awesome if it has like
like it's a bear trap. The female elephant doesn't go
into heat until she's about thirty years old. Same, it
takes birds a few seconds to copulate. Some of them
copulate in flight, which is interesting. And then my last one,
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lizard penises are different shaped amongst all lizards, and some
of them can be barbed, making it extremely difficult to dislode,
which you know, I guess a lot of species have that.
But yeah, this was an incredibly interesting documentary. I was
kind of surprised that I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Same yeah, but I was like, I'm learning stuff too exactly.
You know, it's not just like podcast research. I'm actually
learning some stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
There was a few things that you know, certainly irritated me,
the whole female humpback thing. But there was like one bird,
I don't remember which one it was, where like the
male has to build a nest for the for the
female bird before she'll copulate with him, And I was like,
good for them, Like, do you know he's got to
do a little dance, make her a little nest then
they can get down tonight. The octopus that I think
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it was something like the male octopus will use one
of his tentacles and basically like hand her a sack
of sperm and be like, hey, he wants some candy
little girl, Like I don't know how that works. And
then he uses the other tentacle to like stroker or something.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I don't I don't know totally. Guy driving up on
in a rate van situation.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
That's in the front seat is what's up?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Hey, why don't you come on jump in the back seat.
I get some candy back? Come here? Are you terrible? No?
I I enjoyed the documentary. I'm totally going to be
that guy at the next party where I'm like, hey,
you guys want to hear a few facts. I just
learned this, you know what the prostitute of the sea is. Like,
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I did enjoy this movie or this documentary. I have
to say it was a lot of fun. I think
it'd be fun to watch with a group of friends, Yeah,
where we could just all learn together and just marvel
in the the universe of mating and the world.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I'm sure there is some like outdated stuff in there
by this point, which you know, I'm not a biologist,
so I wouldn't know what that stuff is. So maybe
we shared some misinformation. Maybe the female humpbacks are no
longer referred to as the prostitutes of the seat, I
would like to hope.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So, yeah, great whites, stick that on her now they're whrees.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
They didn't have any shark mating, which isn't surprising because
shark mating is pretty violent, Like those sharks will just
fucking like latch on and like twirl around and oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
They showed some some alligator crocodile which was a little vilent.
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess what we're saying,
is there needs to be a sequel follow up to
this Sex and the Animals documentary. Yeah, we recommend it.
As Eric has said, it's in the discord, so have
at it. But Hoffman is credited for the screenplay of
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Sex and the Animals. He also wrote The Black Cat,
and he's credited with writing four other screenplays, all of
which were directed by Larry Buchanan, all set in Texas.
First of the film, from nineteen sixty three, is called
Free White and twenty one. It's a courtroom drama about
a black motel owner in Dallas accused of raping a
civil rights worker from Sweden. Apparently it's a very cheap
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to kill a mockingbird rip off. It's on twob I
didn't watch it, maybe one day. Hoffman wrote a movie
called Underage, released in nineteen sixty four. It's another trial
melodrama based on a real life court case about a
mother who encourages her fourteen year old daughter to have
sex with a sixteen year old boy. And I read
up the real case and they're actually a little older.
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So Hoffman doing that exploitation move, which works. And he
then wrote The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald from also
released in nineteen sixty four by Buchanan.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
How was this? I was going to watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I watched it. So it was interesting because it's obviously
released a year after the Kennedy assassination, so it's very exploitative.
It's an exploitation film for sure.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You want to know what the most exploitative film of
all time is? What's Up in Knight and Ice. It's
a German film from nineteen twelve that was released just
a couple months after the Titanic, saying.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Wow, yeah, yeah, that's that. Those would be good devil features.
But yeah, that's brutal, and I'm sure it was very
far fetched and made up.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It It was kind of adorable because like the miniature
boat that they used for it, it just like you
can see it like coming up to the to the
iceberg and then it just goes boop into it and
bounces off.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And then like immediately saying so then that's it, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
In one piece. So you know, they didn't know, they
didn't know what had happened. Yet they were like, we
just got to make this movie, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I mean respect to exploitation filmmakers of any century, but yeah,
The Trial of Lee Harvey. It's it's basically the defense
is pushing for an insanity plea. It's basically, what if
he wasn't murdered, you know, by Jack Ruby, and the
prosecution wants death by electric chair. The defense is pushing
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for an insanity plea just so he's incarcerated in a
mental facility. It had an opening text crawl claiming that
the film was banned because of I don't know, I
don't know why it would have been banned. I think
it was just, you know, a fake kind of text
crawl to bring in people. What I thought was really
interesting and I kind of enjoyed, and it was a
good idea. Is it breaks the fourth wall. The judge
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and the defense and the prosecuting they all stare not
the whole movie, but they stare at the camera a
lot because you're a member of the jury. The viewer, Oh,
you're here to decide if he's insane or if he's
just some nutjob who created And I thought that was
really really well done. They used real life statements from
people that saw Lee Harvey. All the statements supposedly are
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actually pulled from witnesses of the shooting and people that
were around and knew Lee Harvey. I had a good
time with it. It's tough to recommend because it is
very boring. Okay, I did break it up in multiple
viewings because I was starting it late at night and
I was like, how finish this in the morning. There's
no surprises or real emotion here. It's just facts presented
in kind of the slow, fictitious manner, very silly cast
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a lot of whom are in the Black Cat and
most Larry Buchanan films. But I think it was on
twob might also be on YouTube. And lastly, I watched
In the Year twenty eight eighty nine from nineteen sixty nine,
which Hoffman also wrote Total Roger Corman Day, The World
Ended rip off. Thousands of nuclear bombs destroyed the world
except for like a handful of survivors. All the actors,
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again are very wooden. It's mainly about a crazy dad
and his daughter who survive and people start showing up
at their house. And the old dad is this crazy
Texas not job who's been preparing for the nuclear event
for years and he only has supplies for three people,
so he's addicted to everybody that shows up. But his
daughter wants to help everyone. These radioactive monsters start popping up.
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They've all survived. I thought this was interesting. They all
survived because the house is in a valley surrounded by
lead mountains and a lake that generates hot air to
keep out radiation. Very lazy ass ending. It's one of
those movies that instead of ending with the end, it
ends with the beginning. Very kind of uplifting. But yeah,
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Hoffman mostly seemed to write screenplays from previous ideas or
real life situations or courtroom dramas. Nothing really too original
except maybe sex and the animals. So yeah, I mentioned
that I thought the Black Cat looks great. It's got style.
I think the white screen black and white photographers crisp
stunny looking. Although some of the scenes are broken up
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by these rocking sixty tunes. It has this very unsettling
darkness and tone carried throughout, which I really like. And
I think that the beauty is all thanks to cinematographer
is It Walter Shank, Yeah, who shot Russ Meyer's Faster
pussy Cat, Kill Kill, Kill Mud Honey. Faster pussy Cat
is a perfect exploitation film. Yeah, like Miss forty five,
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it's like five stars, but his photography Shanks photography in
The Black Cat is what like immediately drew me in.
In the last episode, I talked about the other reasons
why I picked this, but as soon as I started
watching this, I was like, oh, yeah, it's beautiful. Also,
it's got a band playing like every five minutes I'm in.
And then lastly, and the crew that the editor of
The Black Cat, Charles G. Shelling, he also did a
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ton of Russ Meyers films.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, but this doesn't have who is the band from
Kotzi's Black Cat The song.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Bank Tango Bank Tango? No, yeah it you know obviously
that Black Cat that musically surpasses this one. Yes. The music, yeah,
this one is by a rockabilly singer from the Dallas area.
He's a Dallas musician, Scotty McKay. The actual score is
like repurpose you know, stock music, like most DIY films do.
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But he does provide they're not original songs, are all covers,
but it's his versions with his rockabilly band. What do
we have here? Covers Chuck Berry's Brown Eyed Handsome Man,
A Brown Eyed Handsome Man, Les Baxter's Center Man, and
Bo Didley by Ellis McDaniel and Scotty McKay. He also
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provided music for another Larry Buchanan film called Creature of
Destruction from nineteen sixty seven, which stars our boy Les
Tremaine good old Snakey Bender from Things. In that movie,
he does a cover of the nineteen sixty six Here
Comes Batman theme. Oh yeah, it's actually on YouTube. I
listened to it. It's not bad, but it's like, why
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not just play the real Well, obviously you can't play
the real theme. But he doesn't do a whole lot
with it. Okay, let's jump with to the cast real quick.
Except for like two actors. The cast are pretty much
just people that are in a shitload of Larry Buchanan films.
At least these two are like in every film I watched.
Robert Frost plays Lou the asshole lead. He doesn't have
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any other film credits. Neither does Robin Baker, who plays
his wife Diana. She did have like a small credit
in a nineteen sixty six film. Same with Sadie French,
who plays Lilyan the caretaker. She had one other acting credit.
The side characters are kind of like the Larry Buchanan regulars,
and some of them have interesting credits. George egg Lee,
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who plays the family lawyer handling the estate. He pretty
much plays the judge in every Buchanan courtroom drama. He
looks like he does and he's a great judge, and
the few that I watched. He pops in a lot
of other Buchanan sci fi films like The Eye, Creature, Zontar,
The Thing from Venus and Mars Needs One. Annabelle Weenick,
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who probably gives the best performance in The Black Cat
in my opinion. She plays a lady at the bar.
A lot of people in reviews call her the Fluozy,
which is terrible. It's like the prostitute of the sea.
But she has She's in a few Buchanan films. She
steals the show as one of the many unnamed witnesses
in the trial of Lee Harvey. She's really good in it.
(26:23):
She also has some small roles in s. F. Brownings,
Don't Look in the Basement, Don't Hang Up, Wes Craven's
Deadly Blessings. She's in Henry Wrinkler's directed Burt Reynolds starring
comedy Cop and a Half from nineteen ninety three classic
Yes I Couldn't Even get that out. I was so
(26:44):
I was so.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Excited, like you were like stuttering there, bored.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And lastly, for the cast, other than the black Cat
played brilliantly by Pluto, we have the Bartender played by
Bill Thurman. Doesn't have a big role on this. He's
an actor from Texas who He's in a lot of
big roles in most of Buchanan's thirty plus films, popped
up in every movie that I watched from Larry Buchanan.
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He also had some bit parts in some bigger Halloween
Hollywood films, including playing the air traffic controller in Spielberg's
Close Encounters, popping up as a hunter in Spielberg's The
Sugarland Express. He's in Peter Bogdanovic's The Last Picture Show.
He plays the asshole sheriff in Gator Bait. Yeah, he
(27:31):
also plays the sheriff and creature from Black Lake. He's
in Mountaintop Motel Massacre. His list of films are cool
and I began recognizing his face when, like I said,
I started watching these Larry Buchanyan films. I was like, Hey,
that's the Bartender. He's kind of like the Dick Miller
character to Larry Buchanan movies. Yeah, kind of pops up,
not as recognizable, though not as cool any other cast.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Members you wanted to talk about, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay cool. So for anybody who is going to be
watching this, pay attention to the quick intro because that
adorable cat's playing with the yarn. The restriction, you know,
no admitts to persons under eighteen is very cute.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, this is an adaptation of Pose the Black Cat,
and of all the different versions, and there's there are
a ton out there. We could talk about some of
our favorites if we wanted, but I feel like this
is almost the truest adaptation, a modernized version. Yeah, to
pose actual short story, there's a few, you know, obviously
(28:33):
there's the caretaker Lilian. I like how it explains how
the house burns down because he electrocutes the cat. But
everything else is very down to naming the cat Pluto,
that he's a writer, that he you know, how he's
given the cat. It's very much like the actual adapt
the actual story.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, I mean sort of jumping ahead to like double
feature picks. Almost any other Black Cat adaptation could be
a double feature with this because those films are also
dissimilar from this one, using you know, only small elements
of the story itself. You know, you've got ful Cheese,
(29:12):
You've got Katzi's which we've covered, You've got Olmer's with
Karlof and Legosi, Stuart Gordon's two thousand and seven Masters
of Horror with Jeffrey Colmes's Poe, which is peak one.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Of my favorites. Like, I love that that version funny enough.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
So I mentioned in our June'sploitation episode, I think that
I had been because we were talking a lot about
yea Facato, and I was like, Oh, I'm actually rewatching
Homicide right now because it's on to be. There is
an episode that the day that I watched this movie,
The Black Cat, I was like, oh, I'm gonna watch
a couple of homicide episodes. The first episode I watched
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was about this black cat shows up in the homicide
unit and they're like, oh, yeah, they found it in
a parking lot, and like a couple of the cops
are like superstitious, Like Munch is like whatever you get there, ridiculous.
But then they get this case, a ten year old
case where they get it. They finally get a lead
(30:11):
on it, and they go to find the body where
someone told them it was and it turns out the
body was bricked up in a wall.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh shit.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And then the guy who spoiler for this Homicide episode,
the guy who they find out was a killer, is
a drug dealing poet who is dealing right outside the
cemetery where Edgar Allan Poe is buried.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
That's awesome, it's a good that's sort an original idea.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I like that, Yeah, But it's just interesting that I
was just randomly watching Homicide and that episode happened to
be the exact same day that I watched this movie
and was getting ready for this episode.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. And another version that I like
is Daria Argento's Two Evil Eyes with Harvey Kayitel and
Adrian Barbo. Yeah, that one's fun.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I already stated that I thought this looked great as
soon as I started popping this on and watching it
for the first time. I kind of wish we got
more from Harold Hoffman the director. Obviously he learned his
craft from Larry Buchanan, but it seemed like he was
trying to take it in a more kind of artsy
fashion than just like a DIY thing. I think like
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the pacing he creates in this and the writing. I
think his adaptation is really cool, like the modernized. Like
I said, he makes light changes the whole thing with
Lou thinking that his dad brought Pluto back and that
you know, the argument and what got him into the whole,
the middle, the mental institution. That's all added, and I
think that's a nice touch. But yeah, I can't find
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out what happened to Harold Hoffman, what he's doing if
he's alive. I liked what he's done with his first off.
His documentaries are fantastic. But I like the crew he
got together for this, and I just like I kind
of wish he uh he kept up with like this
Texas kind of gothic atmosphere type of movies. Yeah, Harold,
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if you're listening, hit me up.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Hey, I think my I mean you mentioned the pacing.
I think my only problem with it is and I
know you love the little like oh, we're in the
cafe listening.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
To some yes hip you love the house band? Okay,
Well cuts to the night scene clips not.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
So much for me.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Those.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I know that those got this movie to the running time.
That it needed, because you know, we're dealing with a
short story that's two pages long. We have to figure
out some ways to pad this a little bit. I
did feel I think I checked the time, like a
hit pause to go refill my drink at like the
thirty minute mark, and I was like, Okay, this guy
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needs to get punished like more and sooner, because it
just it felt like it took a while for it
to get to the torment of him, which to me
is more sort of central to a lot of pose stories.
So I don't necessarily feel I mean, it's already short.
(33:12):
It's like it's less than eighty minutes, so I'm not
complaining about it in that sense, but I did. It's
about halfway through. I think about the forty five minute
mark where he gets out of the mental hospital after
horribly killing Pluto.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Which there's some startling scenes in this, and we will
talk about that a minute.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I just I wanted him to get punished, like right right,
start right now, Like I know, yeah, okay, he's in
the mental hospital getting shock treatment, which is you know,
which is.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Like a two minute long scene in and of itself
of him just moaning yeah, yeah, No, I.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Mean that's my only gripe with like the pacing is like, personally,
I want to see any animal torturer get what's coming
to them sooner. But it's not necessarily a fault of
the movie.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Right now, I gets and you're right because I did.
Actually I clocked the performances of the house band and
the first performance and I'm not joking. It's four minutes long.
It's the whole song, Yeah, four minutes of just them
playing and I and again, this was very Roger Korman
vibes to me, showing a band playing a little too long.
(34:21):
You know, these contextualized like lyrics that are just you
given this exposition of what's going to happen to this
guy or what's already happening. I enjoyed those nightclub scenes.
The second performance that they show is a little under
two minutes, but still we have probably ten total minutes
of just a band playing.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
And if you don't like rockabilly, you're not gonna like this.
I'm a big fan of any band popping up in
a band in a movie, and I kind of want
to see their whole set I want to see what
their set list is and stuff, all right, But no,
I agree, because yeah, Lou is such and I love
his performance as an unhinged kind of total asshole. I mean,
(35:00):
he's what I really feel bad is his wife. So
right away you know that this blue guy played by
Robert Frost, he's he has this faint grasp on reality.
He's kind of otherworldly, he's out of his mind, and
you know right away that this guy's fucking insane. So
I felt and it's terrible to say, but Diana's character,
(35:24):
his wife, is so frustrating and sadly unsympathetic. I'm like, girl,
you're in danger. You're in danger, girl, Like this dude
is unhinged. You should see this from the start. Quit
buying anniversary gets and GTFO. So I did not. I
mean I liked her because you know, on this podcast,
we love camp and this is all this is. Yea,
(35:45):
it's stupid, but yeah, he treats her like one of
his pets. I think it's weird how they almost try
to get you to sympathize with Lou's character when they
start doing his backstory about his him being beat and
like he was adopted and like.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
All that buddy poured fucking hot coffee on a monkey
like we're done, Like I'm I mean, yeah, you lost
me at, like all your animals are in cages. You
lost me at you know you cut out Pluto's eye. Yes,
you're keeping all these fucking animals in cages trying to
make them drink champagne. Like just I fucking hate rich people.
That's what it really comes down.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
To, exactly, because I kept thinking, like as soon as
they first showed the scene of him, like he receives
Pluto and he just walks off and it's their anniversary nights.
He's okay, good night, honey, He's all, oh, good night,
and he goes and spends the night with his exotic pets.
I immediately thought, who in their fucking right mind has
exotic cage pets like this? And I thought, oh, Michael Jackson,
(36:40):
he probably did. And tons of like rich crazy people
who like to drink champagne and put them in their
pets water bottles, like to show off like difference. Yeah,
now this guy, I think we all know how how
it turns out. So watching these scenes, I'm like, oh, yeah,
I can't wait till this. I fucking gets it. Like
(37:01):
you said, though, it does take a long time to
get to that point.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah, and honestly, and I know we're skipping the head
to the end. How he gets it unsatisfying, Like even
even his death, like where he's like he's running from
the cops and oh no, he gets in a car
accident and dies right, Like, you deserve so much worse
for the animal torture that you inflicted. I am a
big believer in like, when it comes to animal torture,
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you should get back tenfold what you put out.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, his I you know, his eye gets popped out.
I guess during the rec but yeah, essentially he got
away and he sees a cat in the road and
that's what kills him. I do love the car chase.
I like how it ended with you know, the Classic Cops.
One of my favorite scenes is when they're standing by
the brick wall and you know, he's like this house
is built like a brick and he like hits it
and then the cat meows and then the cops are
(37:50):
immediately hall turn on the wall, like you know, that's
how cops react when they hear a cat meowing. But
I did like the tact on card chase, so I
was like, Okay, this is another.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
And then like this car flipping in like it's a
little miniature.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
It's a little car.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I love. I love the miniatures in this. I love
the house burning.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah. A dumb trivia that I found on IMDb is
the owner of that Jaguar automobile that loves driving around
throughout the whole movie is coincidentally named Tommy Poe and
it actually says no relation to the author of the short.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Well, thank you for clarifying that, IMDb user, whatever your
name is.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, so, yeah, I felt like the inded, although I
liked the tack on car chase. Yeah, he essentially got
away and I was like, wait, what is this? Is
he getting away because he's smiling real big. But then
we see the cat in the road flip some miniature
car and yeah, it's just him with his eye, which,
again going back to the cinematography, shank the gore in this,
(38:52):
it's startling like and it wouldn't have worked in color.
It black and white obviously makes this look way more authentic,
way more kind of realistic. But the plucking out the
cat's eye and then showing loose slowly opening his hand
to reveal the eye, that is like, there's so many
memorable moments in this yeah, the acts to his wife's head, yeah,
(39:12):
which is on a cover of uh yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
The cover of the Anger Smoens album cover Inside My Brain,
which don't give me credit for that. Because I was
watching this, fucking John comes.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Out of the fucking guest room, walks walks by, looks
at the screen, is like, oh, that's where the album
covers from, and I'm like what he said from Angry Samoans,
and I'm like, I sort of fucking.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Gotta hate you.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I want that brain. I know it's not fair, but
and you know, I guess you need to be familiar
with the band. I wasn't familiar with the band that.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I haven't listened to Angry Smoans since I was in
high school, so like I had to look it up
and be like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
They're from like the early eighties is what it looked like.
And yeah. I listened to some of their songs to see, like,
maybe I can pick one for the ending of this,
but nothing really worked out, Like what you picked anyway, Okay, Yeah,
I was going to pick something like you know that
that the Scotty McKay band. We're playing some of the
cover up, but yeah, I just pulled something.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
No, but like the cover album is literally like her
Head with the acts in it, with bloods you know,
coming down it. And so yeah, yeah, and John was like,
oh yeah, this was my like you know, horror movie
music album cover crossover. Like obviously he's listening to a
lot of like Death and you know, all of like
(40:28):
the full Chy movies and stuff, all the references there.
But like, yeah, so anyway, I thought that was interesting,
Like just this random obscure movies movie from the sixties
ends up as an album cover for Angry Simoens, So
there's clearly a fan in that band. Yeah, this movie
or maybe they don't even know where maybe they don't
even know where it's from. Maybe they just came across
this random like photo and we're like, oh, let's use this.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, and again, like these the Gores scenes especially, I
think the whole movie's gorgeous, but those are like memorable.
I think once you see this image, it's that you
can like it'll pop in your head like when you're
watching another movie or if you see like an axe
murder or something. Really, that's what That's one thing. One
of the major things other than like what we've already
talked about, but the feel and look at this movie,
(41:12):
it's I don't know, I really liked this adaptation. It's
I'm not going to say it's one of my favorites
of the Black Cats, but I've never really watched one
from the sixties. Most of them are like, you know,
the great Basil rath Bone kind of comedy one from
the forties. Obviously the Ulmer. Yeah, this is a good
one though. Yeah, and it comes from Texas, to which
(41:34):
I have I think I want to pick Buchanan to
some point. I do have a theory to a few
things about this movie. I feel like the whole backstory
of him being adopted Lou, like I almost trying to
sympathize the character. I'm wondering if he pulled that from
Larry Buchanan's real life, because I was reading his short
biography and it's very, very similar to this Lou character
(41:56):
where he was like adopted, his parents like disowned, and
he was adopted in Dallas, And you know, I don't
I don't know if because they're so close and buddy,
you know, buddies, maybe he kind of incorporated that fact.
And I have another theory too. While he was filming
this in nineteen sixty five or whatever, he gathered all
these caged exotic animals and he's like he really got
(42:18):
interested in him and he was looking at him. He's like, man,
I would I really wonder what it would be like
to watch that too. Can't fuck I'm going to make
a documentary about this. And then he started work on
the documentary. Yeah, So any other like favorites of this
movie that popped up that you like, any other anything
else you want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
I mean, I like I mentioned like I love the
miniatures in this. I think that the wife's death is
really gruesome and fucking amazing. You know, I'm not gonna lie.
It was hard for me to watch the scenes with Pluto,
and you know, even if some stuff was like offscreen,
I think the worst part for me was when he
(43:00):
had the cord around its neck and he was dragging
the cat and I was just like this, like I
have like just a visceral reaction to things like that,
Like I can't help my eyes tear up, Like I
can't even help it, even if I know like this
is fake blah blah blah whatever. I just immediate reaction
that sort of thing happens, Like that happened to me.
(43:21):
There was some movie a fantastic fast a few years
ago called like the Pool or something like that, where
a guy got trapped and there was like an alligator. Yeah,
and like the dog dies in a horrific way in that,
and it's so like over the top, it's ridiculous. Like
the dog I don't remember, Like there's some rope that's
hanging down and the dog like jumps down and like
(43:43):
gets hanged its neck snaps really quickly, and like I'm
sitting next to my friend Mike, and he busts out laughing,
but he loves animals, right, But like I just tears
just immediately coming down, even though like I know, like
I just I can't help but feel that way. So
that took me out of it a little bit, which
is definitely like, this is not my favorite Black Cat
(44:05):
adaptation either. I do like it. I think people should
watch it. I think it's a great it's a great
adaptation of the story itself. I think you know, it
represents you know, some Texas filmmakers. It's got like that
swing and sixties vibe to it, like that very much
in the you Know Something Weird video Roger Korn like
(44:26):
all of that. It hits all of those beats, So
I definitely, yeah, I'd recommend it to.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Folks, Yeah, to go back to. Also the cord. Yeah,
the treatment of the cats. He always picks them up
by the scruff of the neck like it just looks
rough throughout, especially that new scene with the cord. I
did want to shout out though the junk drawer in
the kitchen where he pulls out the cord. We all
have the drunk drawer, yes, So when I saw that,
I was like, hell, yeah, that's I mean, if I
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was a complete fucking asshole, that's probably the drawer I
would go too too. But I'm not an asshole, and
I did want to this with our pale. Josiemba wrote
a review on this on the Something Weird release DVD.
He wrote this on this Bleeding Skull site back in
two thousand and five. I think it's just a short
(45:12):
snippet of a long review that you should all check
out on the site. But he says the Black Cat
hovers halfway between slick horror seriousness, excellent cinematography, interesting compositions,
and cheap weirdness, mismatched miniatures, and eye lines, over the
top acting. Thankfully, the inconsistencies are what make it work.
For every gruesome hatchet chop or seemingly real needle injection,
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there's a solid dose of generic go go music and
or bizarre incidental music cues straight out of a Tom
and Jerry cartoon, intentional sensationalism or inspired ineptitude. Either way,
I wasn't bored, and that's kind of sums it up. Yeah,
Like again, it's a short run time. There are some
animal cruelty scenes that a lot of animal lover I mean,
(45:58):
most people should just kind of cringe at. Actually everybody
should cringe at. Yeah, it's totally worth the watch. What
would you pair this with? What's a double feature pick.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
I mentioned earlier? You know, I think any of the
other Black Cat films would work fine with this, Like
just have a Black Cat double feature night. I think
I think it was Henry in our discord said like
he's saving this movie for October and he's going to
be doing like all the Black Cat movies, which is
great because like you're watching films of the same name,
(46:29):
but none of those are the same film. So I
think any of those would work, but I'm going to
go with I'm going to stick with an animal theme
that we've you know, pretty much had for this episode.
No sex though, well kind of in my pick, so
mine's a hell hath no fury Like an animal scorned
double feature. I'm going to go with Orca from nineteen
(46:52):
seventy seven for those who have not seen this fucking
stone cold classic, and Orca witnesses its mate and calf
get killed by a drunk fisherman and then it takes
vengeance on the whole harbor. Like it's fantastic, Like it's
it's hard to watch the opening, so it has that
in common with it. But just like the Orca just
fucking going going after people. It's fucking great. It is
(47:14):
a Jaws rip off, of course, but it's I think
it works in like the more the animal vengeance side
of it. I almost went with Jaws to revenge, but
I'm like, you know, I'm not going to go that far.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I've never seen Orca, have you not know? Oh, I
need to watch this.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
You're in for a treat. Save that for like Horror
Gives Back or something.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Like, Okay, we should do an animal yeah, attack one.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Yes, we'll get back to that. So yeah, I'm gonna
go with Orca in nineteen seventy seven. What about you?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
So I thought a russ Meyer pick would work with
the cinematography, especially specifically one that Walter Shank shot, but
I'm going to go with the Poe film, And since
there are elements of both goofiness with some sprinkled and
serious tones, I landed on Roger Korman's horror anthology Tales
of Terror from nineteen sixty. It contains three segments merging
(48:03):
a total of four a Girland Post short stories. The
Black Cat is one of them, easily the standout here,
with Peter Lourie and Vincent Price just trying to outdo
each other every scene they're in, particularly a wine tasting
scene that is so fucking entertaining, like everybody's just watched
that scene on YouTube. One of the segments, the first one,
called Marella, is short, very atmospheric, leaning a little lesson
(48:27):
to horror comedy, so the shifts in tone are welcome,
kind of like what you see in Hoffman's Black Cat
from time to time. So yeah, double a ground Poe
double feature. I'd start with Tales of tear end it
with a short seventy minute black Cat because I think
the black Cat does have a satisfying ending way in
the night. So we have August coming up. We love August, yeah,
(48:49):
I mean, it is one of my favorite months to
do on the podcast, but it's my least favorite almost
episode to cover because my pronunciations are just.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Oh yeah, we're terrible. I mean, I mean, honestly, we're
bad with French Italian, so you know we're going to
be equally bad with you know, names from folks in
Hong Kong. So sh August is back now this year
(49:26):
because we are running into some challenges with finding films
that a are Shaw Brothers, be like all that have to
be all of the above, that are Shaw Brothers, that
are whore, that are under a thousand and that are
easily accessible not only for us to watch but for
our audience to watch. So because of that, we're going
(49:50):
to be a little bit more flexible this year. I've
already broken a rule before, I think with Nine Demons.
Was it Nine Demons, which isn't Shaw Brothers, but I
picked it because it was Chang che and I was like, whatever,
he's a Shaw Brothers director. Yeah, like adjacent totally. So
we'll probably have some flexibility with our picks this year,
whether it be maybe they're not actually Shaw Brothers produced,
(50:14):
but there are Shaw Brothers, you know, their Shaw Brothers
adjacent have cast or crew affiliated with them. Maybe have
some flexibility with genre. Maybe, I don't know, we might
even have to push some flexibility on views. We'll see.
But Shaugust is all about celebrating Shaw Brothers, you know,
(50:35):
basically Hong Kong horror. So I hope everyone is just
sort of in that mode for next month. And again
your watches, if you participate, it's just you know, you
can watch whatever Shaw Brothers you want. Make some recommendations
in our discord channel of what you're watching. I know
I'll probably throw in a few that are non horror
(50:55):
that I love.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I tend to watch more just martial arts action during
the month than Shaw Brothers horror.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah, yeah, because October we go hard on just horror,
so like sh August is nice to kind of break
away from that a little bit. Now that being said,
with all of the flexibility I said, we are going
to have my pick is a Shaw Brothers movie. It
is a horror movie and it is under a thousand,
so I managed to find one thanks to our folks
(51:22):
on our discord who pointed out this one is actually
online streaming, not on one of the normal platforms, but
I'll put a link to it in show notes. And
it's also in a box set released by Imprint called
Shaw Horror, Shaw Scares or something like that, Volume one.
(51:42):
So Sex Beyond the Grave nineteen eighty four is my pick.
This is not as salacious as you might think from
the title, so basically, it's it starts out that way,
like the opening scene, you're gonna be like, oh man,
this is this is rough, not rough, like this is
gonna be hard to watch, but like rough isn't like ooh,
(52:03):
that's nasty. But it quickly turns into a Poltergeist ripoff
and also sort of a after school special about gambling
in a way. So it's it's very disjointed. It makes
sense though, because the there is no like single writer
or even writers credited on this. It's written by the
(52:25):
Shaw Collective group, so I would imagine that involves at
least five or six people. Interesting, it's a little it's
a little messy, but there's a lot of fun moments
in it, and I think there's plenty still worth talking about.
I'm sure we'll have Ian Who's with us every sh
August for one of our episodes. We'll figure that out offline.
(52:45):
But yeah, let's uh so sh August coming up this month?
Sex beyond the Grave again. I'll put a link to
where that is in our show notes. As of this recording,
that has two hundred and five views. Yeah, low, I
think it'll go up because of the box set plus
hopefully this episode.
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Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yes, in case you are not in our discord, we
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We will be talking about animals fucking this episode. Okay,
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So this episode's film does involve.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Animals, yes, but not thankfully nos. Yeah, no reality with
the kiddie.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah no.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We will be diving into this director's film called sex
and the animals, probably talking about it admittedly more than
the Black Cat, which is the film we're covering for
this episode, another adaptation of egg All and Poe's Wonderful
short story. This is the second time we're covering it.
We did it was our second episode ever that we
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recorded in separate locations in twenty twenty during COVID Luigi
kat SI's Black Cat, which was a fun episode. This
one is from nineteen sixty six, directed by Harold Hoffmann.
As of this recording, it has six hundred and seventeen
logs on letterbox. You can find it streaming on two
B It's on YouTube and apparently This Black Cat was
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thought to be a lost film until the late Great
Mike Rainy, the head of Something Weird Video, He discovered
a print back in the early two thousands. So the
first time it was made available was thanks to the
Great Something Weird, who put out a DVD in two
thousand and one as a Black Cat double feature, the
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other film being The Fat Black pussy Cat from nineteen
sixty three. And apparently that DVD has special features a
lot for this pussy Cat movie, but it has a
deleted prologue for the Black Cat, and I'm wondering what
that'll be. I'm wondering if it's that adorable. Did you
see the version where it's like the cat's playing with
the yarn and it says like for your information, this
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isn't restrict. I wonder if that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Maybe that or even just like the him reciting a
lot line from pose yeah thing with like and it's
all like the it's all scratchy and stuff. Maybe that's it.
It could at the very beginning. Yeah, that would make sense.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, because that because that one you watched a version
that had that.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
They both did our YouTube Man two B had that.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh yeah, I think you're right. I thought it just
started off with the guy like reciting po That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Oh yeah, well the YouTube one has the cats with
the disclaimer, right, and then both versions have the guy
reciting po.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay at the lake or.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe that is a prologue. Maybe that's
the version that's up like everywhere. And Severn also released
a limited edition box set in twenty nineteen called Hemisphere
Box of Whores. Do you have that? No? It was
limited to thirty five hundred copies. Hemisphere Pictures is the
Philippine US production distribution company you know, they did a
lot of sixty seventies v whores, including the Black Cat,
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and in the Severn set, the Black Cat is included
as a double feature Blu ray disc with the Torture
Chamber of Doctor Sadism, which is interesting. Yeah, and the
other films are The Blood Drinkers Curse of the Vampires
in al Adamson's Brain of Blood. So I looked it up.
People are reselling it for you know, an ungodly amount
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of money, and so if you got any listeners, have it. Good,
good job. Yeah, the Black Cat. Everybody knows the Poe story.
If you don't, well, there's gonna be spoilers ahead. Actually
just pause this and read it. It's like a couple
of pages.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, it's just very long.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
But in this version we have an unstable writer named
Lou who is gifted a black Cat as an anniversary
gift by his lovely wife Diana, and Lou is a
complete asshole. He gets drunk, he taunts all his exotic pets,
offering champagne to his raccoon, messing with his two can,
being a total dick to his pet monkey, point hot
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coffee on him. We're going to talk about his you know,
his room of caged exotic pets. Later and he inevitably
murders the black Cat, whose name Pluto by the way,
just like impose short story. Obviously, he's a bit insane.
So after a stint in an asylum, including some much
needed shock treatment, Lu gets released but soon starts drinking again.
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He gets another black Cat that he finds in a
water fountain, and he starts believing that Pluto has returned
from the dead to get his revenge again. We kind
of all know how it ends, but we will be
getting into that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's immortal classic of horror and hate.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
The Black Cat.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The most terrifying story ever filmed.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Fill me a cat, I thought you were my friend,
Black Damon? He does?
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Nowhere he goes?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Can he escape the torment of the Black pat.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So this is directed by Harold Hoffman, and I couldn't
find much about him looking at his resume, though in
his affiliation with Texas filmmaker Larry Buchanan, he's clearly a Texan.
He has a handful of writing, directing, and producing credits.
Almost all of them are associated with Larry Buchanan. And
for those just for some like you know, some background
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Larry Buchannon. He was pretty much like a poor man's
Texas version of Roger Corman, you know, very low budget,
pumped out a lot of sci fi horror films. A
lot of them were like repurpose stolen ideas from existing
Corman films. Yeah, and he made films. Most of his
films were made with for under two thousand dollars or
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twenty thousand dollars. He made a few films that were
under ten k, very diy stuff. Most of them, if
not all of them, were filmed in and around Texas,
which is always fun to watch being a Texan. I
hate to admit that, you know, Texas sucks, but it's
cool to see cool landmarks. But I was reading more
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about him and his basic formula is having a cast
of about four actors and two basic indoor locations, which
is very much what we're seeing here.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, that's exactly what this is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Usually in Buchanan films. There was a poorly constructed monster
with like ping pong balls for eyes, which we always love.
I read if he couldn't afford to rent special cameras
and equipment and wanted to shoot like a fight scene
or any type of slow motion scenes, he would have
his actors pretend to move in slow motion and that
would be in the movie. Also, it took time to
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synchronize sound, so in his films. Most of his films
have very minimal dialogue, which we also see in The
Black Cat, and he would do a lot of voiceover narration.
He was referred to as the Schlockmeister for his arguably
poorly made films, which he nickname, he embraced, he loved.
But Hoffman, the director for The Black Cat, was an
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assistant for Buchanan for most of his film career, so
it's easy to see a bunch of similarities between The
Black Cat and a lot of Larry buchanan DIY films.
If you're familiar with a lot of his movies. I'd
argue that The Black Cat looks way better than any
Buchanan film I've watched so far, and mainly it's because
of a cinematographer who will get to here in a bit,
but I think Larry Buchanyon would be a fun director
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to dive into at some point. Anyways, The Black Cat
is really Hoffman's only film which you can kind of
rate his ability as a director because his only other
directing credit is something we had just been talking about.
He was going by Hal Dwayne in this credit. It's
a documentary called Sex in the Animals from nineteen sixty nine,
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which is basically a collection of pre recorded segments of
animals just going at it.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, with a couple of supervising zoologists or biologists.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Or yeah, e college or whatever. They're just they just
walk along the beach picking up rocks and narrating this thing. Yeah,
but we have to talk about this documentary.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It's sorry, sorry folks, but if you watch it, we
put it. I put a link to the movie in
our discord. It's on my Google drive. It's public. You
can you can watch it if you want.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's ninety six minutes long. Yeah, so there's a lot
of it's it's very informative and it's not just like
music playing over animals mating. You get a lot of information.
And I actually have, like.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I learned quite a few things.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I have a lot. I have a half page of
a few interesting Okay, I have like five things. Well, yeah,
I guess my go go lance. Yeah, I get a
little wordy on my bullet points here.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I I think both of our reviews on letterbox of
this are about this are the same thing because the opening.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's a cold open, and this fucking thing starts with
a male and female turkey obviously catching each other's eye,
slowly walking up to each other while a fucking sitar
is playing like a beautiful melody, and this very you know,
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huge male turkey starts mounting the female turkey and it's
a utter chaos. It's the music's a little it's it's
it's terrifying.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Well like one of his feet, clawed feet, pinning her
head down. And I was like, is this the tone
that we're setting for this movie? No kickshaming if she
wants to be strangled, you know whatever, Like I don't.
I'm not going to kink shame humans. I'm not going
to kink shame animals. As long as everything is consensual,
it's all good. But this opening, I was like, is
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this what I'm really going to be watching for the
next ninety minutes?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It turns into like a national geographic something you might
watch like in a nineteen seventies biology class.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I would have actine. It's very much like this felt
like something I could have watched in my biology class
in high school. Yeah, I do feel though that it
feels a bit wrong to watch something like this without
David Attenborough. Okay, like I feel like he should be
narrating all of these things, like and watching it without
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his voice just felt wrong. Like can you imagine David
Attenborough coming in during the horse fluffer scene where like
and he's just like and now we have the stable
owner coming in to prepare the stallion to mount the
mayor and you can see his hand like, you know,
(11:43):
rubbing the this is essential, Like I can't. I obviously
I do a terrible David Attenborough, but him talking about
a stallion's penis would just be the greatest.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
It's amongst that.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, and obviously I kind of went into this knowing, Okay,
the horse fucking and will probably be the most graphic. Sure,
but I think the rhinos actually took that. There's a
zebras and then they have the rhinos, which is very graphic.
But yeah, they have pigs, beavers, geese, geckos, pelicans, frogs,
fish just going at it. No ducks, sorry, Jim, Yeah
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there's no ducks.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, but apparently I didn't know that pigs have a
quark screw pinus.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, and they showed it. It was Yeah, it looked
like something from the thing like it was. It was
just like popped out in the kind of mind of
its own. One of my favorite quotes though, that I
feel like you'd appreciate Erica is the female biologist. She
was like a male moth can smell a female moth
from miles away.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I already put that out of my brain.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Sorry, I know if everybody doesn't already that Erica loves moths,
that's not even funny. She loves me. They scent live
moths in the male.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
They need to die, all every one off this planet.
I don't care what animal they feed, I don't care
where they sit in the fucking circle of life. They
all need to fucking die.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's the scle of life.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Okay. So my favorite quote from this and I don't
know if it's necessarily a quote, but it was more
so like one of the ecologists or whoever, saying something
about this particular animal. They said that female humpback whales
are nicknamed the prostitutes of the sea because she accepts
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the male as fast as he can present himself. First
of all, rude very rude, not very sex positive, like.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
No, yeah, no, I'm scratching that one off of my
list of notes here too, because that when I heard that,
I was like, oh, Eric is gonna have something to
say about this, the prostitute of the sea.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
That's how dare you ecologist? Person? Like whatever, some.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Of the other fun facts that I have, let's share
what we have here. Male kangaroos have forked penises to
match the two vaginas that female kangaroos have, so the
forked penises shoot sperm in each vagina during sex.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, and then there's those seals that have the forked
uterus so that they can just constantly be pregnant, which
good Lord, that is just sounds like the saucing thing ever,
Like even just normal pregnancy bad enough. But then it's like, oh,
you have your baby. Oh your other vagina are your
other uterus is free? Why not fill that up?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
It's like, God, Yeah, that's the terrible existence. Sorry, God
is a cruel person if you believe in the Creator.
Speaking of seals, the penis bone of a walrus was
so large that Eskimo's club seals over their head when
hunting them.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
That's a terrible thought.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
During colonial days, it was chic to carry a curved
raccoon penis bone on a vest chain to use as
a toothpick ew. Yeah, bears like to masturbate. That's a
little one I have here from them. Yeah, I think
everybody does, right. Yeah, male rabbits like to piss on
females as an aphrodisiac, and during pregnancy, female rabbits grow
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a membrane over their vagina to padlocket from the male
rabbits to go at it again.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Okay, yeah, I like the what are those things called
chassaity bill check?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be awesome if it has like
like it's a bear trap. The female elephant doesn't go
into heat until she's about thirty years old. Same, it
takes birds a few seconds to copulate. Some of them
copulate in flight, which is interesting. And then my last one,
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lizard penises are different shaped amongst all lizards, and some
of them can be barbed, making it extremely difficult to dislode,
which you know, I guess a lot of species have that.
But yeah, this was an incredibly interesting documentary. I was
kind of surprised that I watched the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Same yeah, but I was like, I'm learning stuff too exactly.
You know, it's not just like podcast research. I'm actually
learning some stuff.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
There was a few things that you know, certainly irritated me,
the whole female humpback thing. But there was like one bird,
I don't remember which one it was, where like the
male has to build a nest for the for the
female bird before she'll copulate with him, And I was like,
good for them, Like, do you know he's got to
do a little dance, make her a little nest then
they can get down tonight. The octopus that I think
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it was something like the male octopus will use one
of his tentacles and basically like hand her a sack
of sperm and be like, hey, he wants some candy
little girl, Like I don't know how that works. And
then he uses the other tentacle to like stroker or something.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I don't I don't know totally. Guy driving up on
in a rate van situation.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
That's in the front seat is what's up?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Hey, why don't you come on jump in the back seat.
I get some candy back? Come here? Are you terrible? No?
I I enjoyed the documentary. I'm totally going to be
that guy at the next party where I'm like, hey,
you guys want to hear a few facts. I just
learned this, you know what the prostitute of the sea is. Like,
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I did enjoy this movie or this documentary. I have
to say it was a lot of fun. I think
it'd be fun to watch with a group of friends, Yeah,
where we could just all learn together and just marvel
in the the universe of mating and the world.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I'm sure there is some like outdated stuff in there
by this point, which you know, I'm not a biologist,
so I wouldn't know what that stuff is. So maybe
we shared some misinformation. Maybe the female humpbacks are no
longer referred to as the prostitutes of the seat, I
would like to hope.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So, yeah, great whites, stick that on her now they're whrees.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
They didn't have any shark mating, which isn't surprising because
shark mating is pretty violent, Like those sharks will just
fucking like latch on and like twirl around and oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
They showed some some alligator crocodile which was a little vilent.
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess what we're saying,
is there needs to be a sequel follow up to
this Sex and the Animals documentary. Yeah, we recommend it.
As Eric has said, it's in the discord, so have
at it. But Hoffman is credited for the screenplay of
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Sex and the Animals. He also wrote The Black Cat,
and he's credited with writing four other screenplays, all of
which were directed by Larry Buchanan, all set in Texas.
First of the film, from nineteen sixty three, is called
Free White and twenty one. It's a courtroom drama about
a black motel owner in Dallas accused of raping a
civil rights worker from Sweden. Apparently it's a very cheap
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to kill a mockingbird rip off. It's on twob I
didn't watch it, maybe one day. Hoffman wrote a movie
called Underage, released in nineteen sixty four. It's another trial
melodrama based on a real life court case about a
mother who encourages her fourteen year old daughter to have
sex with a sixteen year old boy. And I read
up the real case and they're actually a little older.
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So Hoffman doing that exploitation move, which works. And he
then wrote The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald from also
released in nineteen sixty four by Buchanan.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
How was this? I was going to watch it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I watched it. So it was interesting because it's obviously
released a year after the Kennedy assassination, so it's very exploitative.
It's an exploitation film for sure.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You want to know what the most exploitative film of
all time is? What's Up in Knight and Ice. It's
a German film from nineteen twelve that was released just
a couple months after the Titanic, saying.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Wow, yeah, yeah, that's that. Those would be good devil features.
But yeah, that's brutal, and I'm sure it was very
far fetched and made up.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It It was kind of adorable because like the miniature
boat that they used for it, it just like you
can see it like coming up to the to the
iceberg and then it just goes boop into it and
bounces off.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And then like immediately saying so then that's it, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
In one piece. So you know, they didn't know, they
didn't know what had happened. Yet they were like, we
just got to make this movie, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I mean respect to exploitation filmmakers of any century, but yeah,
The Trial of Lee Harvey. It's it's basically the defense
is pushing for an insanity plea. It's basically, what if
he wasn't murdered, you know, by Jack Ruby, and the
prosecution wants death by electric chair. The defense is pushing
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for an insanity plea just so he's incarcerated in a
mental facility. It had an opening text crawl claiming that
the film was banned because of I don't know, I
don't know why it would have been banned. I think
it was just, you know, a fake kind of text
crawl to bring in people. What I thought was really
interesting and I kind of enjoyed, and it was a
good idea. Is it breaks the fourth wall. The judge
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and the defense and the prosecuting they all stare not
the whole movie, but they stare at the camera a
lot because you're a member of the jury. The viewer, Oh,
you're here to decide if he's insane or if he's
just some nutjob who created And I thought that was
really really well done. They used real life statements from
people that saw Lee Harvey. All the statements supposedly are
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actually pulled from witnesses of the shooting and people that
were around and knew Lee Harvey. I had a good
time with it. It's tough to recommend because it is
very boring. Okay, I did break it up in multiple
viewings because I was starting it late at night and
I was like, how finish this in the morning. There's
no surprises or real emotion here. It's just facts presented
in kind of the slow, fictitious manner, very silly cast
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a lot of whom are in the Black Cat and
most Larry Buchanan films. But I think it was on
twob might also be on YouTube. And lastly, I watched
In the Year twenty eight eighty nine from nineteen sixty nine,
which Hoffman also wrote Total Roger Corman Day, The World
Ended rip off. Thousands of nuclear bombs destroyed the world
except for like a handful of survivors. All the actors,
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again are very wooden. It's mainly about a crazy dad
and his daughter who survive and people start showing up
at their house. And the old dad is this crazy
Texas not job who's been preparing for the nuclear event
for years and he only has supplies for three people,
so he's addicted to everybody that shows up. But his
daughter wants to help everyone. These radioactive monsters start popping up.
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They've all survived. I thought this was interesting. They all
survived because the house is in a valley surrounded by
lead mountains and a lake that generates hot air to
keep out radiation. Very lazy ass ending. It's one of
those movies that instead of ending with the end, it
ends with the beginning. Very kind of uplifting. But yeah,
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Hoffman mostly seemed to write screenplays from previous ideas or
real life situations or courtroom dramas. Nothing really too original
except maybe sex and the animals. So yeah, I mentioned
that I thought the Black Cat looks great. It's got style.
I think the white screen black and white photographers crisp
stunny looking. Although some of the scenes are broken up
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by these rocking sixty tunes. It has this very unsettling
darkness and tone carried throughout, which I really like. And
I think that the beauty is all thanks to cinematographer
is It Walter Shank, Yeah, who shot Russ Meyer's Faster
pussy Cat, Kill Kill, Kill Mud Honey. Faster pussy Cat
is a perfect exploitation film. Yeah, like Miss forty five,
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it's like five stars, but his photography Shanks photography in
The Black Cat is what like immediately drew me in.
In the last episode, I talked about the other reasons
why I picked this, but as soon as I started
watching this, I was like, oh, yeah, it's beautiful. Also,
it's got a band playing like every five minutes I'm in.
And then lastly, and the crew that the editor of
The Black Cat, Charles G. Shelling, he also did a
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ton of Russ Meyers films.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, but this doesn't have who is the band from
Kotzi's Black Cat The song.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Bank Tango Bank Tango? No, yeah it you know obviously
that Black Cat that musically surpasses this one. Yes. The music, yeah,
this one is by a rockabilly singer from the Dallas area.
He's a Dallas musician, Scotty McKay. The actual score is
like repurpose you know, stock music, like most DIY films do.
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But he does provide they're not original songs, are all covers,
but it's his versions with his rockabilly band. What do
we have here? Covers Chuck Berry's Brown Eyed Handsome Man,
A Brown Eyed Handsome Man, Les Baxter's Center Man, and
Bo Didley by Ellis McDaniel and Scotty McKay. He also
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provided music for another Larry Buchanan film called Creature of
Destruction from nineteen sixty seven, which stars our boy Les
Tremaine good old Snakey Bender from Things. In that movie,
he does a cover of the nineteen sixty six Here
Comes Batman theme. Oh yeah, it's actually on YouTube. I
listened to it. It's not bad, but it's like, why
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not just play the real Well, obviously you can't play
the real theme. But he doesn't do a whole lot
with it. Okay, let's jump with to the cast real quick.
Except for like two actors. The cast are pretty much
just people that are in a shitload of Larry Buchanan films.
At least these two are like in every film I watched.
Robert Frost plays Lou the asshole lead. He doesn't have
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any other film credits. Neither does Robin Baker, who plays
his wife Diana. She did have like a small credit
in a nineteen sixty six film. Same with Sadie French,
who plays Lilyan the caretaker. She had one other acting credit.
The side characters are kind of like the Larry Buchanan regulars,
and some of them have interesting credits. George egg Lee,
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who plays the family lawyer handling the estate. He pretty
much plays the judge in every Buchanan courtroom drama. He
looks like he does and he's a great judge, and
the few that I watched. He pops in a lot
of other Buchanan sci fi films like The Eye, Creature, Zontar,
The Thing from Venus and Mars Needs One. Annabelle Weenick,
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who probably gives the best performance in The Black Cat
in my opinion. She plays a lady at the bar.
A lot of people in reviews call her the Fluozy,
which is terrible. It's like the prostitute of the sea.
But she has She's in a few Buchanan films. She
steals the show as one of the many unnamed witnesses
in the trial of Lee Harvey. She's really good in it.
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She also has some small roles in s. F. Brownings,
Don't Look in the Basement, Don't Hang Up, Wes Craven's
Deadly Blessings. She's in Henry Wrinkler's directed Burt Reynolds starring
comedy Cop and a Half from nineteen ninety three classic
Yes I Couldn't Even get that out. I was so
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I was so.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Excited, like you were like stuttering there, bored.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And lastly, for the cast, other than the black Cat
played brilliantly by Pluto, we have the Bartender played by
Bill Thurman. Doesn't have a big role on this. He's
an actor from Texas who He's in a lot of
big roles in most of Buchanan's thirty plus films, popped
up in every movie that I watched from Larry Buchanan.
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He also had some bit parts in some bigger Halloween
Hollywood films, including playing the air traffic controller in Spielberg's
Close Encounters, popping up as a hunter in Spielberg's The
Sugarland Express. He's in Peter Bogdanovic's The Last Picture Show.
He plays the asshole sheriff in Gator Bait. Yeah, he
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also plays the sheriff and creature from Black Lake. He's
in Mountaintop Motel Massacre. His list of films are cool
and I began recognizing his face when, like I said,
I started watching these Larry Buchanyan films. I was like, Hey,
that's the Bartender. He's kind of like the Dick Miller
character to Larry Buchanan movies. Yeah, kind of pops up,
not as recognizable, though not as cool any other cast.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Members you wanted to talk about, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Okay cool. So for anybody who is going to be
watching this, pay attention to the quick intro because that
adorable cat's playing with the yarn. The restriction, you know,
no admitts to persons under eighteen is very cute.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, this is an adaptation of Pose the Black Cat,
and of all the different versions, and there's there are
a ton out there. We could talk about some of
our favorites if we wanted, but I feel like this
is almost the truest adaptation, a modernized version. Yeah, to
pose actual short story, there's a few, you know, obviously
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there's the caretaker Lilian. I like how it explains how
the house burns down because he electrocutes the cat. But
everything else is very down to naming the cat Pluto,
that he's a writer, that he you know, how he's
given the cat. It's very much like the actual adapt
the actual story.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, I mean sort of jumping ahead to like double
feature picks. Almost any other Black Cat adaptation could be
a double feature with this because those films are also
dissimilar from this one, using you know, only small elements
of the story itself. You know, you've got ful Cheese,
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You've got Katzi's which we've covered, You've got Olmer's with
Karlof and Legosi, Stuart Gordon's two thousand and seven Masters
of Horror with Jeffrey Colmes's Poe, which is peak one.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Of my favorites. Like, I love that that version funny enough.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
So I mentioned in our June'sploitation episode, I think that
I had been because we were talking a lot about
yea Facato, and I was like, Oh, I'm actually rewatching
Homicide right now because it's on to be. There is
an episode that the day that I watched this movie,
The Black Cat, I was like, oh, I'm gonna watch
a couple of homicide episodes. The first episode I watched
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was about this black cat shows up in the homicide
unit and they're like, oh, yeah, they found it in
a parking lot, and like a couple of the cops
are like superstitious, Like Munch is like whatever you get there, ridiculous.
But then they get this case, a ten year old
case where they get it. They finally get a lead
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on it, and they go to find the body where
someone told them it was and it turns out the
body was bricked up in a wall.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh shit.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
And then the guy who spoiler for this Homicide episode,
the guy who they find out was a killer, is
a drug dealing poet who is dealing right outside the
cemetery where Edgar Allan Poe is buried.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
That's awesome, it's a good that's sort an original idea.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I like that, Yeah, But it's just interesting that I
was just randomly watching Homicide and that episode happened to
be the exact same day that I watched this movie
and was getting ready for this episode.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. And another version that I like
is Daria Argento's Two Evil Eyes with Harvey Kayitel and
Adrian Barbo. Yeah, that one's fun.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I already stated that I thought this looked great as
soon as I started popping this on and watching it
for the first time. I kind of wish we got
more from Harold Hoffman the director. Obviously he learned his
craft from Larry Buchanan, but it seemed like he was
trying to take it in a more kind of artsy
fashion than just like a DIY thing. I think like
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the pacing he creates in this and the writing. I
think his adaptation is really cool, like the modernized. Like
I said, he makes light changes the whole thing with
Lou thinking that his dad brought Pluto back and that
you know, the argument and what got him into the whole,
the middle, the mental institution. That's all added, and I
think that's a nice touch. But yeah, I can't find
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out what happened to Harold Hoffman, what he's doing if
he's alive. I liked what he's done with his first off.
His documentaries are fantastic. But I like the crew he
got together for this, and I just like I kind
of wish he uh he kept up with like this
Texas kind of gothic atmosphere type of movies. Yeah, Harold,
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if you're listening, hit me up.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Hey, I think my I mean you mentioned the pacing.
I think my only problem with it is and I
know you love the little like oh, we're in the
cafe listening.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
To some yes hip you love the house band? Okay,
Well cuts to the night scene clips not.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
So much for me.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Those.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I know that those got this movie to the running time.
That it needed, because you know, we're dealing with a
short story that's two pages long. We have to figure
out some ways to pad this a little bit. I
did feel I think I checked the time, like a
hit pause to go refill my drink at like the
thirty minute mark, and I was like, Okay, this guy
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needs to get punished like more and sooner, because it
just it felt like it took a while for it
to get to the torment of him, which to me
is more sort of central to a lot of pose stories.
So I don't necessarily feel I mean, it's already short.
(33:12):
It's like it's less than eighty minutes, so I'm not
complaining about it in that sense, but I did. It's
about halfway through. I think about the forty five minute
mark where he gets out of the mental hospital after
horribly killing Pluto.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Which there's some startling scenes in this, and we will
talk about that a minute.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I just I wanted him to get punished, like right right,
start right now, Like I know, yeah, okay, he's in
the mental hospital getting shock treatment, which is you know,
which is.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Like a two minute long scene in and of itself
of him just moaning yeah, yeah, No, I.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Mean that's my only gripe with like the pacing is like, personally,
I want to see any animal torturer get what's coming
to them sooner. But it's not necessarily a fault of
the movie.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Right now, I gets and you're right because I did.
Actually I clocked the performances of the house band and
the first performance and I'm not joking. It's four minutes long.
It's the whole song, Yeah, four minutes of just them
playing and I and again, this was very Roger Korman
vibes to me, showing a band playing a little too long.
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You know, these contextualized like lyrics that are just you
given this exposition of what's going to happen to this
guy or what's already happening. I enjoyed those nightclub scenes.
The second performance that they show is a little under
two minutes, but still we have probably ten total minutes
of just a band playing.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
And if you don't like rockabilly, you're not gonna like this.
I'm a big fan of any band popping up in
a band in a movie, and I kind of want
to see their whole set I want to see what
their set list is and stuff, all right, But no,
I agree, because yeah, Lou is such and I love
his performance as an unhinged kind of total asshole. I mean,
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he's what I really feel bad is his wife. So
right away you know that this blue guy played by
Robert Frost, he's he has this faint grasp on reality.
He's kind of otherworldly, he's out of his mind, and
you know right away that this guy's fucking insane. So
I felt and it's terrible to say, but Diana's character,
(35:24):
his wife, is so frustrating and sadly unsympathetic. I'm like, girl,
you're in danger. You're in danger, girl, Like this dude
is unhinged. You should see this from the start. Quit
buying anniversary gets and GTFO. So I did not. I
mean I liked her because you know, on this podcast,
we love camp and this is all this is. Yea,
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it's stupid, but yeah, he treats her like one of
his pets. I think it's weird how they almost try
to get you to sympathize with Lou's character when they
start doing his backstory about his him being beat and
like he was adopted and like.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
All that buddy poured fucking hot coffee on a monkey
like we're done, Like I'm I mean, yeah, you lost
me at, like all your animals are in cages. You
lost me at you know you cut out Pluto's eye. Yes,
you're keeping all these fucking animals in cages trying to
make them drink champagne. Like just I fucking hate rich people.
That's what it really comes down.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
To, exactly, because I kept thinking, like as soon as
they first showed the scene of him, like he receives
Pluto and he just walks off and it's their anniversary nights.
He's okay, good night, honey, He's all, oh, good night,
and he goes and spends the night with his exotic pets.
I immediately thought, who in their fucking right mind has
exotic cage pets like this? And I thought, oh, Michael Jackson,
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he probably did. And tons of like rich crazy people
who like to drink champagne and put them in their
pets water bottles, like to show off like difference. Yeah,
now this guy, I think we all know how how
it turns out. So watching these scenes, I'm like, oh, yeah,
I can't wait till this. I fucking gets it. Like
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you said, though, it does take a long time to
get to that point.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah, and honestly, and I know we're skipping the head
to the end. How he gets it unsatisfying, Like even
even his death, like where he's like he's running from
the cops and oh no, he gets in a car
accident and dies right, Like, you deserve so much worse
for the animal torture that you inflicted. I am a
big believer in like, when it comes to animal torture,
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you should get back tenfold what you put out.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, his I you know, his eye gets popped out.
I guess during the rec but yeah, essentially he got
away and he sees a cat in the road and
that's what kills him. I do love the car chase.
I like how it ended with you know, the Classic Cops.
One of my favorite scenes is when they're standing by
the brick wall and you know, he's like this house
is built like a brick and he like hits it
and then the cat meows and then the cops are
(37:50):
immediately hall turn on the wall, like you know, that's
how cops react when they hear a cat meowing. But
I did like the tact on card chase, so I
was like, Okay, this is another.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
And then like this car flipping in like it's a
little miniature.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
It's a little car.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
I love. I love the miniatures in this. I love
the house burning.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah. A dumb trivia that I found on IMDb is
the owner of that Jaguar automobile that loves driving around
throughout the whole movie is coincidentally named Tommy Poe and
it actually says no relation to the author of the short.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Well, thank you for clarifying that, IMDb user, whatever your
name is.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, so, yeah, I felt like the inded, although I
liked the tack on car chase. Yeah, he essentially got
away and I was like, wait, what is this? Is
he getting away because he's smiling real big. But then
we see the cat in the road flip some miniature
car and yeah, it's just him with his eye, which,
again going back to the cinematography, shank the gore in this,
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it's startling like and it wouldn't have worked in color.
It black and white obviously makes this look way more authentic,
way more kind of realistic. But the plucking out the
cat's eye and then showing loose slowly opening his hand
to reveal the eye, that is like, there's so many
memorable moments in this yeah, the acts to his wife's head, yeah,
(39:12):
which is on a cover of uh yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
The cover of the Anger Smoens album cover Inside My Brain,
which don't give me credit for that. Because I was
watching this, fucking John comes.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Out of the fucking guest room, walks walks by, looks
at the screen, is like, oh, that's where the album
covers from, and I'm like what he said from Angry Samoans,
and I'm like, I sort of fucking.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Gotta hate you.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I want that brain. I know it's not fair, but
and you know, I guess you need to be familiar
with the band. I wasn't familiar with the band that.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I haven't listened to Angry Smoans since I was in
high school, so like I had to look it up
and be like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
They're from like the early eighties is what it looked like.
And yeah. I listened to some of their songs to see, like,
maybe I can pick one for the ending of this,
but nothing really worked out, Like what you picked anyway, Okay, Yeah,
I was going to pick something like you know that
that the Scotty McKay band. We're playing some of the
cover up, but yeah, I just pulled something.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
No, but like the cover album is literally like her
Head with the acts in it, with bloods you know,
coming down it. And so yeah, yeah, and John was like,
oh yeah, this was my like you know, horror movie
music album cover crossover. Like obviously he's listening to a
lot of like Death and you know, all of like
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the full Chy movies and stuff, all the references there.
But like, yeah, so anyway, I thought that was interesting,
Like just this random obscure movies movie from the sixties
ends up as an album cover for Angry Simoens, So
there's clearly a fan in that band. Yeah, this movie
or maybe they don't even know where maybe they don't
even know where it's from. Maybe they just came across
this random like photo and we're like, oh, let's use this.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, and again, like these the Gores scenes especially, I
think the whole movie's gorgeous, but those are like memorable.
I think once you see this image, it's that you
can like it'll pop in your head like when you're
watching another movie or if you see like an axe
murder or something. Really, that's what That's one thing. One
of the major things other than like what we've already
talked about, but the feel and look at this movie,
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it's I don't know, I really liked this adaptation. It's
I'm not going to say it's one of my favorites
of the Black Cats, but I've never really watched one
from the sixties. Most of them are like, you know,
the great Basil rath Bone kind of comedy one from
the forties. Obviously the Ulmer. Yeah, this is a good
one though. Yeah, and it comes from Texas, to which
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I have I think I want to pick Buchanan to
some point. I do have a theory to a few
things about this movie. I feel like the whole backstory
of him being adopted Lou, like I almost trying to
sympathize the character. I'm wondering if he pulled that from
Larry Buchanan's real life, because I was reading his short
biography and it's very, very similar to this Lou character
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where he was like adopted, his parents like disowned, and
he was adopted in Dallas, And you know, I don't
I don't know if because they're so close and buddy,
you know, buddies, maybe he kind of incorporated that fact.
And I have another theory too. While he was filming
this in nineteen sixty five or whatever, he gathered all
these caged exotic animals and he's like he really got
(42:18):
interested in him and he was looking at him. He's like, man,
I would I really wonder what it would be like
to watch that too. Can't fuck I'm going to make
a documentary about this. And then he started work on
the documentary. Yeah, So any other like favorites of this
movie that popped up that you like, any other anything
else you want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
I mean, I like I mentioned like I love the
miniatures in this. I think that the wife's death is
really gruesome and fucking amazing. You know, I'm not gonna lie.
It was hard for me to watch the scenes with Pluto,
and you know, even if some stuff was like offscreen,
I think the worst part for me was when he
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had the cord around its neck and he was dragging
the cat and I was just like this, like I
have like just a visceral reaction to things like that,
Like I can't help my eyes tear up, Like I
can't even help it, even if I know like this
is fake blah blah blah whatever. I just immediate reaction
that sort of thing happens, Like that happened to me.
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There was some movie a fantastic fast a few years
ago called like the Pool or something like that, where
a guy got trapped and there was like an alligator. Yeah,
and like the dog dies in a horrific way in that,
and it's so like over the top, it's ridiculous. Like
the dog I don't remember, Like there's some rope that's
hanging down and the dog like jumps down and like
(43:43):
gets hanged its neck snaps really quickly, and like I'm
sitting next to my friend Mike, and he busts out laughing,
but he loves animals, right, But like I just tears
just immediately coming down, even though like I know, like
I just I can't help but feel that way. So
that took me out of it a little bit, which
is definitely like, this is not my favorite Black Cat
(44:05):
adaptation either. I do like it. I think people should
watch it. I think it's a great it's a great
adaptation of the story itself. I think you know, it
represents you know, some Texas filmmakers. It's got like that
swing and sixties vibe to it, like that very much
in the you Know Something Weird video Roger Korn like
(44:26):
all of that. It hits all of those beats, So
I definitely, yeah, I'd recommend it to.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Folks, Yeah, to go back to. Also the cord. Yeah,
the treatment of the cats. He always picks them up
by the scruff of the neck like it just looks
rough throughout, especially that new scene with the cord. I
did want to shout out though the junk drawer in
the kitchen where he pulls out the cord. We all
have the drunk drawer, yes, So when I saw that,
I was like, hell, yeah, that's I mean, if I
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was a complete fucking asshole, that's probably the drawer I
would go too too. But I'm not an asshole, and
I did want to this with our pale. Josiemba wrote
a review on this on the Something Weird release DVD.
He wrote this on this Bleeding Skull site back in
two thousand and five. I think it's just a short
(45:12):
snippet of a long review that you should all check
out on the site. But he says the Black Cat
hovers halfway between slick horror seriousness, excellent cinematography, interesting compositions,
and cheap weirdness, mismatched miniatures, and eye lines, over the
top acting. Thankfully, the inconsistencies are what make it work.
For every gruesome hatchet chop or seemingly real needle injection,
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there's a solid dose of generic go go music and
or bizarre incidental music cues straight out of a Tom
and Jerry cartoon, intentional sensationalism or inspired ineptitude. Either way,
I wasn't bored, and that's kind of sums it up. Yeah,
Like again, it's a short run time. There are some
animal cruelty scenes that a lot of animal lover I mean,
(45:58):
most people should just kind of cringe at. Actually everybody
should cringe at. Yeah, it's totally worth the watch. What
would you pair this with? What's a double feature pick.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
I mentioned earlier? You know, I think any of the
other Black Cat films would work fine with this, Like
just have a Black Cat double feature night. I think
I think it was Henry in our discord said like
he's saving this movie for October and he's going to
be doing like all the Black Cat movies, which is
great because like you're watching films of the same name,
(46:29):
but none of those are the same film. So I
think any of those would work, but I'm going to
go with I'm going to stick with an animal theme
that we've you know, pretty much had for this episode.
No sex though, well kind of in my pick, so
mine's a hell hath no fury Like an animal scorned
double feature. I'm going to go with Orca from nineteen
(46:52):
seventy seven for those who have not seen this fucking
stone cold classic, and Orca witnesses its mate and calf
get killed by a drunk fisherman and then it takes
vengeance on the whole harbor. Like it's fantastic, Like it's
it's hard to watch the opening, so it has that
in common with it. But just like the Orca just
fucking going going after people. It's fucking great. It is
(47:14):
a Jaws rip off, of course, but it's I think
it works in like the more the animal vengeance side
of it. I almost went with Jaws to revenge, but
I'm like, you know, I'm not going to go that far.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
I've never seen Orca, have you not know? Oh, I
need to watch this.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
You're in for a treat. Save that for like Horror
Gives Back or something.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Like, Okay, we should do an animal yeah, attack one.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
Yes, we'll get back to that. So yeah, I'm gonna
go with Orca in nineteen seventy seven. What about you?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
So I thought a russ Meyer pick would work with
the cinematography, especially specifically one that Walter Shank shot, but
I'm going to go with the Poe film, And since
there are elements of both goofiness with some sprinkled and
serious tones, I landed on Roger Korman's horror anthology Tales
of Terror from nineteen sixty. It contains three segments merging
(48:03):
a total of four a Girland Post short stories. The
Black Cat is one of them, easily the standout here,
with Peter Lourie and Vincent Price just trying to outdo
each other every scene they're in, particularly a wine tasting
scene that is so fucking entertaining, like everybody's just watched
that scene on YouTube. One of the segments, the first one,
called Marella, is short, very atmospheric, leaning a little lesson
(48:27):
to horror comedy, so the shifts in tone are welcome,
kind of like what you see in Hoffman's Black Cat
from time to time. So yeah, double a ground Poe
double feature. I'd start with Tales of tear end it
with a short seventy minute black Cat because I think
the black Cat does have a satisfying ending way in
the night. So we have August coming up. We love August, yeah,
(48:49):
I mean, it is one of my favorite months to
do on the podcast, but it's my least favorite almost
episode to cover because my pronunciations are just.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Oh yeah, we're terrible. I mean, I mean, honestly, we're
bad with French Italian, so you know we're going to
be equally bad with you know, names from folks in
Hong Kong. So sh August is back now this year
(49:26):
because we are running into some challenges with finding films
that a are Shaw Brothers, be like all that have to
be all of the above, that are Shaw Brothers, that
are whore, that are under a thousand and that are
easily accessible not only for us to watch but for
our audience to watch. So because of that, we're going
(49:50):
to be a little bit more flexible this year. I've
already broken a rule before, I think with Nine Demons.
Was it Nine Demons, which isn't Shaw Brothers, but I
picked it because it was Chang che and I was like, whatever,
he's a Shaw Brothers director. Yeah, like adjacent totally. So
we'll probably have some flexibility with our picks this year,
whether it be maybe they're not actually Shaw Brothers produced,
(50:14):
but there are Shaw Brothers, you know, their Shaw Brothers
adjacent have cast or crew affiliated with them. Maybe have
some flexibility with genre. Maybe, I don't know, we might
even have to push some flexibility on views. We'll see.
But Shaugust is all about celebrating Shaw Brothers, you know,
(50:35):
basically Hong Kong horror. So I hope everyone is just
sort of in that mode for next month. And again
your watches, if you participate, it's just you know, you
can watch whatever Shaw Brothers you want. Make some recommendations
in our discord channel of what you're watching. I know
I'll probably throw in a few that are non horror
(50:55):
that I love.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I tend to watch more just martial arts action during
the month than Shaw Brothers horror.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah, yeah, because October we go hard on just horror,
so like sh August is nice to kind of break
away from that a little bit. Now that being said,
with all of the flexibility I said, we are going
to have my pick is a Shaw Brothers movie. It
is a horror movie and it is under a thousand,
so I managed to find one thanks to our folks
(51:22):
on our discord who pointed out this one is actually
online streaming, not on one of the normal platforms, but
I'll put a link to it in show notes. And
it's also in a box set released by Imprint called
Shaw Horror, Shaw Scares or something like that, Volume one.
(51:42):
So Sex Beyond the Grave nineteen eighty four is my pick.
This is not as salacious as you might think from
the title, so basically, it's it starts out that way,
like the opening scene, you're gonna be like, oh man,
this is this is rough, not rough, like this is
gonna be hard to watch, but like rough isn't like ooh,
(52:03):
that's nasty. But it quickly turns into a Poltergeist ripoff
and also sort of a after school special about gambling
in a way. So it's it's very disjointed. It makes
sense though, because the there is no like single writer
or even writers credited on this. It's written by the
(52:25):
Shaw Collective group, so I would imagine that involves at
least five or six people. Interesting, it's a little it's
a little messy, but there's a lot of fun moments
in it, and I think there's plenty still worth talking about.
I'm sure we'll have Ian Who's with us every sh
August for one of our episodes. We'll figure that out offline.
(52:45):
But yeah, let's uh so sh August coming up this month?
Sex beyond the Grave again. I'll put a link to
where that is in our show notes. As of this recording,
that has two hundred and five views. Yeah, low, I
think it'll go up because of the box set plus
hopefully this episode.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Also, we are seven weeks into Klon's sizzling Summer of
Side Splitters movie Challenge. I'm way behind, but I hope
to make up some ground and finish strong. So reminder
to anybody who is thinking about or is participating, this
is a fifteen week challenge with Klon giving away one
of his awesome zines if you complete it, so I'm
hoping I can. Everybody should check it out. We could
(53:30):
put a link to that.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
Yes, definitely put a link in show notes for that.
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I'm also there at Elschiby Thanks.
Speaker 4 (53:46):
Everyone for listening.
Speaker 6 (53:47):
We'll see you back next month for sh August Banks.
Speaker 9 (54:00):
Get the long until you've been babbled, you believer, neighbor.
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Don't you know.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
My kids is a dream the well?
Speaker 6 (54:17):
Did you know.
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My kids dream of.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
The wealth?
Speaker 9 (54:24):
To hanswer her, Sam Lovedy'll miss you will always.
Speaker 5 (54:36):
You did know, my b No.
Speaker 8 (54:43):
Hell of Maluke just like you handles one.
Speaker 9 (55:10):
Let off the top of yours.
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You just like you hound those, just like you hound those.
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