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So my name's Jason Janas.
I'm going to be 53 this April.
My near-death experiencehappened in 2020.
I was Catholic.
My whole life went throughthe sacraments, went
through the whole thing.
A firm believer inthe Bible back then.
A firm believer in heavenand hell, God and the
devil and all of that.
From a very early age goingthrough the sacraments and
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going to church, I justfelt like something wasn't
right, something was wrong.
It never sat right with me.
I always felt like Iwasn't good enough.
I was like, why is Godwaiting up there just to
send me to hell becauseI keep messing up.
Reading the Bible, especiallythe Old Testament, there's
nothing good in it, really.
It's mean, it's vindictive,it's just, scary.
And I'm like, I'm justnot gonna go anymore.
So as a young kid, I justquit going to church.
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I just saw no point in it.
I'm like, if I'm gonnaburn in hell, then, I
guess that's where I go.
I don't know.
Then why did you even bringme down here was my questions.
I grew up in a very abusivehousehold, so I don't want
to go into it too much,but it wasn't that great.
So, I always think as thingslike that go down, it's like,
why do you hate me so much?
Why aren't you helping me?
If you're all of this loveand all of this, then why
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aren't you helping me?
Why am I getting beat?
Why am I having to protectmy sister from this stuff?
And so I quit having arelationship with God.
So this is like1978, probably 79.
I was like eight or nine.
So I quit going to church,quit having a relationship,
quit talking to him.
Never prayed,never did anything.
So now, I kind of went throughlife as a very angry man,
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teenager and all that stuff,
and still never prayed,never went to church, never
had a relationship with him.
Just kind of abandonedhim and, and Jesus.
So now we're gonnafast forward.
Now it's April 2nd 2020.
Pandemic starts.
I was feeling kindof tired that day.
I came home from work, satdown, started eating dinner.
I started coughing up blood.
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It got real hard to breatheto the point of where it
was almost nonexistent.
And I had made a franticphone call to someone cuz I
didn't know what else to do.
The next thing, I know, Iwake up in, in the I C U,
I've got a tube in mythroat, my hands and feet
are strapped to the bed.
IV in my neck,stuff in my nose.
Doctors and nurses, whoyou are, what's going on?
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And I'm like...
but from the time I awoke, Ihad turned to the left, up in
the left and I had a big room.
My IC room was big.
I mean, way off to the leftwas a nice, like waiting area.
Lots of chairs andstuff like that.
But up in the cornerof there, was a tv.
Someone was standingthere, someone was there.
As clear as day.
I couldn't physically seeit, but I could feel it.
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Like just breathing air.
So I'm just staring at this..
at the tv.
I couldn't talk, I had noidea what was going on.
And I was in that ICU roomfor a month and that entire
time, up on the left,that presence was there.
Unmistakable, and Iwas just drawn to it.
I just wanted to get asclose as I could to it.
And, it had never left.
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It never moved, itnever did anything.
It just stayed right there.
So lo and behold, I getbetter, and at the end of the
month I'm off the ventilator.
The IVs out, canbreathe on my own.
They had stoppedthe blood flow.
COVID had caused tumorsto, to rupture in my lungs,
so I was, I just basicallydrowned in my own blood.
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They pumped out12 cups of blood.
But the entire time, so I'mstill staring at the tv.
I'm lethargic.
I lost 75 pounds.
No one happened to be inthe room at that time.
It had to be, well,I'd say a spring day,
so it was, maybe 4:30.
Beautiful, beautiful,sunny day out.
And I just cried out to God.
I mean, I was, I wastalking to the tv.
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I must have looked like I wasnuts, but got on my elbows
and I was trying to talk.
I couldn't, so I wasbegging him not to die.
Very emotional.
I am sobbing uncontrollably.
I mean, when you come thatclose to death and actually
do, it puts your lifeinto a big perspective.
How insignificant and howquickly your life can change
within a matter of minutes.
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From being okay tophysically dying.
So I called out to him.
And now I hadn't called outto God in over 42 years.
And I called out to him.
Please don't let me die.
Please, pleasedon't let me die.
Emotional, I'm crying.
I'm sorry for abandoning you.
I'm sorry forabandoning Jesus.
Please forgive me.
I love you bothwith all my heart.
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I said, please don't takemy daughters away from me.
Please let me seemy kids, please.
I love them with all my heart.
And I kept going
and there was somebody specialin my life that I said,
please don't take her from me.
I wanna hold herhand, I wanna hug her.
I want, I wanta life with her.
And it was in that momentthat everything stopped.
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Now, if you can imagine,just the thought coming
into your head aboutturning on a light switch.
Before you could evenget done with that.
I could seeeverything around me.
There was no more pain.
I was out of my body.
I could see the treessoul, the grasses soul,
the colors that I wasseeing did not exist.
They simply don't exist.
They were the mostbeautiful colors.
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I could see every blade ofgrass moving independently.
Like I could see theveins in the grass.
I could see everythingaround the ICU room
instantly behind me.
And that all took place
before you could think ofturning on the light switch.
That's how quicklyit happened.
So when I describe thatmoment to you, that's
how quickly it happened.
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And I, as I'm out ofmy body and I'm still
staring at the tv,
I'm young again.
I mean, I felt like I wasmaybe 18, 20, 21 years
old and invigorated,
like somebody had pluggedme into the universe's
battery and I I waslike, no pain existed.
And I was enveloped in thisunconditional love and light.
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And when I say unconditional,there's simply no words
to describe the lovethat flowed through me.
It was like being placedin the middle of a
deep river, sort of thewater moving around you.
This water, this loveflowed through every
part of my being.
Unconditionally.
It was as warm as the sun.
And in that moment I spokeand I, well, it was a
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thought and I said, I'm home.
And a place it seemedso familiar, I was
there before many, manytimes and I knew it.
I, I said, I'm home.
And as I'm looking at the,at the grass and the trees
and, and everything I said,again, it was a thought.
I said, what abeautiful day to die.
Like once again that I,that I had done it before.
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And it was all so familiar.
It was home.
I was literally home andI was just there above
my body, just enjoying
and I know who wasin front of me.
It was father, it was God.
I was embraced.
As he was holding me, Ibegan to feel unworthy
and because of the,the choices that I
had made in my life
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and the things that I'vesaid and done to, to other
people, and, all of that.
I wasn't reallya, a nice person.
I felt guilty and ashamed thatI shouldn't have been there.
And the more unworthyI felt, the more love
that was given to me.
And the more, themore ashamed I felt,
the more love he gave me.
And it just, I wasjust embraced and held
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in, in God's arms.
And I was like, okay.
I knew then that I, thatI had done nothing wrong.
Nothing.
And in that moment then, then
Jesus showed up.
So I'm now, I was, my starewas to the left and then it
went just straight in frontof me, like 12 o'clock.
And I felt hispresence show up.
And it was more love.
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There was so much love and theonly way to describe it in a
human form would be stifling.
Like somebody cover up yourmouth and cover up your nose.
Right.
It was so much love, and Iwas just engulfed and embraced
in unconditional love.
And it was simply the mostprofound and beautiful
experience I had everexperienced here because,
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my NDE was more of a eventhough I did die, that's
not when my NDE occurred.
Mine was more like a oh,what do you want to call it?
Divine intervention.
Like I was calling outto God, I was like,
please God, please,please don't let me die.
And he answered the door.
He answered the doorand let me come home
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and said, I'm here.
I am, I'm here.
And that moment hasprofoundly changed my life.
I don't even want to sayit, but I'm gonna say it.
I left Christianity becauseeverything I thought that
Christianity was, wasproven wrong in that moment.
God doesn't care aboutyour religion, religion
to God and to, let's sayheaven or home or Jesus is
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meaningless and pointless.
He doesn't care.
God wants arelationship with you.
Talk to him.
He doesn't need you on yourhands and knees praying.
He doesn't need you doinganything other than having
a simple conversation likeyou and I are right now.
That's it.
That's all thatmatters to him.
That there is noright or wrong.
There is no good or bad.
This is simply a dream.
This is the matrix.
We chose our life,we chose our parents.
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We chose the things thatwe want to accomplish
in this, on this earth.
Whether it's being married,having children, getting
a house, getting a collegeeducation, whatever.
Now we said, well, wheredoes free will fit in?
Free will fits in on howyou want to get to those
points in your life.
When you wanna go off doyou wanna do it right away
and be the good littleboy and girl and go there?
Or do you wanna go fora half a month and then,
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zig-zag back and forth.
But eventually you're gonnaget your degree, eventually
you're gonna get married.
Eventually you're gonnabuy the house, right?
So how you get there,that's your choice.
How you interact witheverybody, it's your choice.
And you've just, you'vecreated your life.
So when somebody says,no, it's God's will,
it's not God's will.
He's just allowingyou to live your life
the way you chose it.
And when I was shownthat, when I was given
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that information, it justproved everything that I
ever thought to believein this world wrong.
It was like, Idid nothing wrong.
When I came back, it was like,I want you to talk about me.
I want you to let everybodyknow that I'm here, that
you're all okay, thatyou are loved, you are
seen, you are heard.
I hear all of you.
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You are not aloneever in your life.
No matter what you aregoing through, how horrific
or how happy or whatever,father is going through
it right there with you.
You are not ever alone.
And that, that has becomeso comforting to me.
That I have begun and Itruly have begun to live
without fear, becausefear does not exist.
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You create the fear.
If you wanna live in whateveraccident happened to you or
whatever, you went through,and you wanna live in that
fear and become depressedand all, that's your choice.
That's your free will.
But it doesn't exist.
It's only up here.
God is love and anything thatis not of that pushes you
further away from Father.
And he's gonna allowthat to happen because
it's your free will.
So I've truly begun tolive my life the way
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it's meant to to be.
He wants you tolive your life.
Live it, okay?
Tomorrow is not guaranteed.
So, you will have regrets.
And that's on you.
That's not on Father.
That's not on God.
Live your life.
Don't live it out of fear.
If you want to go dosomething, go do it.
No right or wrong,no good or bad.
And now I've begun to livemy life that way, and I
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realize that I have nolonger become materialistic.
I have no love ofmoney, no need of it.
Anything materialistic,I really don't
care about anymore.
I sold most of my stuff inmy house or my apartment.
I just don't want it.
I have no need for it.
I live very, very simplybecause as I said earlier,
that none of this is real.
This is the matrix.
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This is the dream.
We are, we are all stillat home with God, with
Father, with Jesus.
This is simply an avatarthat we're in, that your
parents created and younow inhabit this avatar.
And I had no love of my bodyat all when I left it, none.
I had, didn't care about it.
I didn't care about anythingbecause at that moment,
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like I said, when everythinghappened to me, I knew also
that everything was exactlywhat was supposed to be
taking place in this world.
Where my children, wherewere my grandchildren were,
where Covid was taking place.
Everything that wasgoing on was meant to be
going on at that moment.
We were all right where weneeded to be, and it was
such a comforting thought.
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And I live my life now.
There's nothingto get me angry.
There's nothing to get meupset or worry about because,
when you wake up andrealize that it's just a
dream, it's just easy toget along in life because
when you're going to workthat none of this is real.
This is just, just a game.
And it's just, I've learnedto play the game now, so,
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when I talk about my NDE,the biggest thing I want
people to come away with isthat one, you're never alone.
Don't for one minute thinkthat you are alone just
because you're alone inthe house or, or whatever.
You are surrounded byunconditional love,
and you are love.
You are love.
You are light, andyou are energy.
That is all you are.
You are created from God,therefore you are a God.
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So when Jesus saidthat in the Bible, in
Proverbs, I do believe.
And when Jesus said, I andthe Father are one, that means
you and the father are one.
If you and the Fatherare one, what is Father?
God.
Well, God createda miniature God.
You are not the God,but you are a God.
So it's just an amazingrealization that I've come to.
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I've had another outof body experience.
Going on, it was last year.
I was coming outtabed and I was kind of
emotional that day.
And I was like, whydid you leave me?
And now here me complainingabout having the most
wonderful thing in my life andnow I'm complaining about it.
So I said (13:24):
Hey, why did you
keep me in the hospital?
Why couldn't Ireally come home?
Everybody gets to go homeand you, you, I floating
here on the, in the topof the ceiling here.
And I, I'm like,why couldn't I go?
So I come from my bed.
I was doing a couple things,and I laid down on the couch
and I was instantly pulledout of my body instantly.
I mean, I entered the void.
And when they mean thevoid, it is utterly
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void of anything,light, sound, anything.
And I began to travel throughthis completely pitch dark
tunnel at a very fast speed.
I would say almost atthe speed of light.
And I kept just travelingthrough it, and I'm talking
off in the distance.
Again, I don't know, therewas no sense of time in the
first NDE in the hospital.
And again, no sense of time.
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I, I don't know if I wasin there for 30 seconds
or 30 hours, don't know.
But often the distancewas like the tip of a
pin of light in justthis utter void of black.
And then light began to comethrough the tunnel, and I felt
the unconditional love again.
And then it dawned onme, I'm going home.
I was like, he's,he's listening to me.
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I was just so happy.
The love was flowingthrough me again, and the
light kept getting closerand closer until it just
encompassed everything.
And it's the most beautifulwhite, it's pure, just
unfiltered, beautiful white.
And I mean, I got so close toit that, I mean my nose hairs
were just about to touch it.
And then I was back intomy body and I'm like, I
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got a big smile on my face.
And again, it was justvalidation that, Father.
God, he's listening.
He hears you.
Everything you say tohim, he's hearing and
feeling and seeing.
Had I crossed into that light,had I crossed that threshold,
this body would've died.
I was home.
There's no coming back.
I'm still, I stillhave things to do here.
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I know what they are nowcuz I'm doing it with
you and everybody else.
And I'm in the processof writing a book, but
we're getting there.
It's, it's complex.
And then this last NovemberI had a visitor at work,
and this last SaturdayI had the same visitor.
So I'm at work, it's5:30 in the morning.
Nobody's there yet.
And I'm doing something,out of nowhere,
this person appears.
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I mean literally outof nowhere cuz it
was a long corridor.
And I was in the sectionwith two locked doors.
I grabbed stuff andhe was standing there.
I was taken back.
I'm like wheredid you come from?
, I'm thinking in my head islike, where did you come from?
There's no one here yet.
He said, well, I'm just hereto clean, you know, I need to
go in the bathroom clean off.
And so I go in the bathroomand I follow him and
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he's just smiling.
I mean like just smilinglike you are right now.
He's just smiling and he hadthis like glow around him.
He was just so happy.
And I started to feel this.
We were connecting, so I wasfeeling a lot of love from.
Because I've become anempath so I can really
feel people's souls now.
And I was reallyfeeling a lot of love.
So we just started talkingand I started talking about my
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NDE and about father and love.
And he just put his headback and just smiled.
This went on for20 minutes or so.
And, he says, well..
He goes, Jason right?,
I didn't meet, I didn'tgive him in my name.
And I said yes.
And he put his hand out,and he shook my hand.
He says, Jason, itwas a pleasure to meet
you and his strength.
I'm telling you, whenhe squeezed my hand, he
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could have pulverized itand turned it into dust.
I mean, it was non-human.
The strength was unbelievable.
And he started to walkaway and he stopped and he
looked over his shoulder.
He says, Jason, I'llsee you again soon.
I, I didn't knowwhat to think.
I didn't, I was stunned.
So I grabbed my stuffand I went to, cause
I didn't get his name.
So I went to go out,get out the door.
He walked, hey, he was outthe door maybe three seconds.
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So I walked out the door.
No one.
Gone, no smell, no sound, nosight, nothing, just gone.
And I'm like, I, Ineed to go sit down.
This is really bizarre.
And so I went and sat downfor like an hour and I'm like,
I was trying to process it.
He knew everything about meand I knew nothing about him.
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So I, I'm, I'm sittingthere processing for a
couple weeks and then Irealized, I saw, and I was
just going through someNDEs and someone had showed
a picture of ArchangelMichael, and that was him.
His, his wholeface, everything.
He didn't have the longhair and stuff like that.
It was just short, brown.
Brown hair, beard, short hair.
But that's exactly who it was.
And I was like, whatis Archangel Michael
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talking to me for?
I mean, what's go,what's going on?
So now fast forward,that was last November.
So now this last Saturday Iwas out with my girlfriend.
We had come out of a sushiplace and there was maybe a
half a dozen cars out there,
but right next to my Jeepwas this homeless guy.
He had a cane and justwearing a ratty coat,
ratty baseball cap.
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Same style beard,but red hair.
So it was red beard, red hair.
And again, again, itdidn't dawn on me.
And he goes, hi.
And he was smiling again.
He says, can we talk?
And I'm like, okay, sure.
And we just started talkingand he said some things to my
girlfriend that terrified her.
She's like, there's noway he could have known
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these things, none.
And she's like, I wanna go.
Can I?
Yeah, go sit in the car.
She took off, ran and satin the car, locked the door.
So I'm sitting out theretalking to him and he's
just saying things to me,very personal things that
no one else could know.
And he, he mentioned,he goes, really it's
all about the love.
And he, he gave me a fistbump and his skin was so cold.
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Like there wasn't, itwas just cold, clammy.
It's just, so I was like,man, it's really weird.
And I said, I said, yeah,really, it is about the love.
We are to love one another.
And I said, I had an N D E.
And he goes, I know you did.
And I'm like, okay.
All right.
Something's going on.
And he says, you mindgiving me a, you know,
walking down here?
And I, I said, sure.
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And I told her I wasgonna go take him for
a walk and help him.
He stood up.
No problem.
And for a bum you would think,he'd be all dirty, ratty.
His shoes were brand new.
They weren't dirty.
His pants weren't dirty.
Coat wasn't dirty.
And he's starting to walk.
He doesn't need the cane.
So we're walking and he,he was saying some things
that were going to happen.
And he says, money iscoming your way, basically.
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And he said, itwas a lot of money.
And I'm like, wow.
And he says, oh, I forgotyou're Jason, right?
And I was like.
And it still didn'tdawn on me who he was.
And I, I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
And he says, so are youwilling to relocate?
And I'm like, to where?
I mean, where doyou want me to go?
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And he says, like Sacramentoor something like that,
somewhere out there.
And I go, sure, yeah.
And he goes, beautiful.
We get in there, we'restarting to walk in,
get in the restaurant.
He goes (20:01):
you'll
hear from me soon.
And I then, as I was drivingwhile I got him in there,
he shook my hand again.
He says, Jason, it wasnice to see you again.
I'm not thinking in theway he's talking because
I'm still in shock aboutwhat's taken place.
And I left him.
I put my hand on his, onhis shoulder and I said,
it's been a pleasure, pleasetake care of yourself.
And he said, I'llsee you soon.
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And I'm walking out anddriving away and I'm like,
really tired all of a sudden.
And I'm like, that wasjust, that's weird.
Nobody, there's no way hecould have known these things.
So we're driving back andshe, my girlfriend, was
like, what was that about?
And I just looked toher and I said, that
was Arch Angel Michael.
I said, and that'sthe second time.
I showed her a picture of him.
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She goes, I knewit wasn't a bum.
How could he knowthose things about me?
I said, come on now.
I said, that's, that'sthe way it rolls.
And it's, but why us,and why you so much?
And I said, somethingbig's going down.
And I told her, thatthere was changes coming,
that I can feel it.
I said, I just can't place it.
I said, one of 'em, I wasgonna find a really good,
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healthy relationship.
That's you.
That money is coming, andclearly significant amounts
of it are coming now andthat we're gonna have a, a
nice home and and family.
And he, because he said,
he said, financially, we'rereally struggling, aren't we?
And I said, I am.
And he says, Okay.
Not for long.
I was just, it was so bizarrebecause we had just walked
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in to go get some sushi.
We may be in there for40, 45 minutes and out
of all the cars couldhave sat by any place.
But he was right next to mycar, knowing I'm in there
waiting for me to come out.
It just freaked her out.
So all of these things arehappening right now to me
and being in a wakened stateand having that third eye
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open and can feel thingsand it's just, I just
live life differently.
So that event in that hospitalprofoundly changed my life.
I know who we are, Iknow what we are now.
I know what's important,what's not important, and
the only thing that reallymatters and the only thing
that is gonna continuethroughout time is love.
Love is what makesthe universe grow.
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All of our love, weare all the same.
We are all one.
There's nobody on thisearth, past or present
that was not the same.
We are all tied together.
If you can imagine likea spiderweb, just one
little strand, all of usare connected that way.
We are all one.
No one is better than anybodyelse, and that's that.
And the only thing thatmatters on this earth is love.
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That's it.
That's what we are.
And, we all came hereto experience and
do different things.
That's it.
This, we just cameto the playground.
The earth is a school.
When we come here,all we know is love.
We don't know what gettingslapped, punched, getting
shot, getting whatever it isthat you want to experience.
Okay?
So when we come here, wecome here with that prefaces.
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So we come to fatherwith our plan.
I'm gonna try this, thisis, and he might even
say, that's gonna be hard.
I know I can do it.
Now we come here and thenwe get the umbilical cord
cut off, and now we'relike, I didn't deserve that.
Why did, why didthat happen to me?
Well, it happened to youbecause that's what you chose.
It's like you goinginto a grocery store.
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Right.
And how many people do youtalk to in the grocery store
when you're out shopping?
Nobody.
Except you mighttalk to the cashier.
Right?
Are you striking up anyreal in-depth conversations?
Why?
Your timelines aren'tmeant to cross.
They're not meantto be in your life.
The people that are in yourlife are meant to be there.
You chose and theychose for your timelines
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to merge and cross.
That's it.
Other than that, they're notmeant to be in your life.
So when I say to people,well, I didn't deserve this.
Well, you deserve hadnothing to do with it.
It's just what you chose?
So, and I wouldn'tchoose that.
Well, you're, you'rethinking with a linear
mind and a physical mind.
When you choose thesethings, you've asked your
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friends to do these, you'veasked soulmates to do these
things to you or be roughto you, be mean to you.
There's always been somebodyin your life that has
just been hard on you,that just won't let up.
It's because you ask them to.
Everything that you gothrough here, whether
it's challenging or not sochallenging is for a reason.
It's a lesson.
There's a lesson that youhave to learn out of that.
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And if you don't face thatlesson, it's gonna keep
getting harder and harderand harder and harder.
Until you meet that challengeand you face it and you do it.
No matter what the outcomeis, it's gonna be there.
And if you don't finish it inthis life, then when you come
into the next life, you will.
Because all your timelines areplaying out all at once right
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now in multiple universes,in multiple time dimensions.
Past lives, your liferight now and your future
lives are all playing outsimultaneously right now.
So you're in differentuniverses, different galaxies,
different time dimensions,and you're all living your
lives right now, all at once.
So it's, it's reallya beautiful thing.
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As I tell people, we're inthe biggest love story ever.
We just don't remember it.
And we choose to forget whenwe come down here is God
not taking it away from us.
We choose to forget itbecause if we didn't,
we would look at what wegotta face and go, oh, no way.
No way.
Nope.
That ain't gonna happen, . No.
So we choose to forget,so we can go through
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these experiences becausethat's how we grow.
That's how our soul,our spirit grows through
these experiences.
And that's eventually whatwe're trying to do is become
an ascended master likeJesus did when he was here,
or Yeshua I should say.
When Yeshua was here, hebecame an ascended master
so he could heal people,he could, raise the dead.
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All these thingswe can do too.
We just can't do it right nowbecause we haven't reached
that ascended master stage.
And all my knowledgethat I gained when I
transitioned out of mybody, God didn't gimme that.
I merged with my true self,who I am back at home.
I just merged withwho I was and I knew
instantly where I was.
I'm home.
So yeah, there's just somuch to go through and , it
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just seems like there'sjust not enough time.
To ever get through it allbecause, we're all growing,
we're all learning, we'reall doing what we need to do.
And then, when we fulfill ourcontract, well, you go home.
And it's simply the mostbeautiful transition
you will ever see.
But you're just not aroundthat to tell anybody about it.
And your loved onesare always close by.
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They're just in adifferent dimension.
We can't see or hear thembecause we're not meant to.
Once we gain that knowledgeand, transition to the
other side, everything isright there and available.
So, yeah, it's abeautiful thing.
Beautiful thing.