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Benny Ferguson (00:00):
Your true nature is endless.
(00:02):
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now onmultiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on manyplanes in many dimensions.
You've had many lifetimes thathave led you to this point.
Think about it.
(00:22):
Many of you that are listeningto this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten yearsago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
Rod Bland (00:34):
With me today is Benny Ferguson, Jr.
Thanks for comingon the show, Benny.
Benny Ferguson (00:39):
Yeah, Ron, it's awesome to be here.
We're excited.
Rod Bland (00:42):
Yeah, me too.
Uh, we were just sayingoff the air that's really
my first introduction to,I guess anything really.
Well, anything esotericapart from UFOs because
I've been interested inthat for a long time.
But as far as channelinggoes, especially was
the work of, uh, EstherHicks with, uh, Abraham.
And so I was really excitedto get your email to, uh, have
(01:05):
you on as a guest on the show.
So, um, I'm curious aboutyour, your personal journey
with channeling Abraham.
So can you share a bitabout how this connection
first began for you andhow it's evolved over time?
Benny Ferguson (01:18):
Yeah, well, the connection for me, um,
I guess I started channelingback in 2012 is when I, when
I realized I was channeling.
Now, to tell the truth,looking back, I was, I had
already begun channeling.
I just didn't know.
And the funny thing isit was with school when
I was in college, um,
(01:40):
when I had a paper to write.
And this, this is, it seemsfunny and weird at the same
time when I tell it, but,when I would have a paper
to write, I would get, doall the research and have
the paper, have everythingready, but I could never
actually get my mind straightto sit down and write it
until the night before.
And the night before, it wouldbe 12:30, 1:00 o'clock, it's
due the next day, and thewhole paper, three, four, five
(02:03):
page paper would come through.
And, and now looking back,the way it happened, I was
being supported then andjust didn't realize it.
So it was, You know, andthen finding out later that
this is something that Ihad done before prev in
previous lifetimes and it'ssomething that I said I
was going to do this time.
And so looking back Over mylife, you know, starting as
(02:24):
a child, I was having whatI called nightmares in like
early elementary school.
I was trying to, theywere trying to contact me
and kind of get me movingalong this path back then.
I just wasn't ready.
Right.
I was in religion andmy family and all my
family was in religion.
So I had no framework forany of this type of thing
until 2006 when I had aspontaneous out of body
(02:48):
experience and so that kindof forced me to start looking
outside of religion andoutside of all the things
that I had grown up around.
Um, and when I firststarted channeling, I
wasn't channeling Abraham.
Um, I was listeningto a lot of Esther.
Uh, I had watched TheSecret and, and kind of
got intrigued by that.
(03:09):
Um, I don't know how manypeople did this, but I, all
of the people that were in TheSecret, I went and found their
websites and all that stuff,and I looked for information
on what they studied toget to where they were.
And so I found all theirbook lists and all these
things that they suggested,bought all the books,
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read all of the stuff thatthey read, on their way.
And then of course I waslistening to the videos
and that type of thing.
And then for whateverreason, you know, I started
channeling with, with Abrahamand I, and I asked if it
was them, cause it kind offelt similar to how I felt
sometimes when I was listeningto them on the videos.
And, um, we've kind of beendoing it for a while now.
(03:54):
I guess probably, you know,2006, I started, no, not
2006, 2012, I started andnot shortly after It's been
me channeling them, but inthe initial, it wasn't them.
And I know it wasn't them.
I could feel differentvibrational presences on me
and I could interpret whatthey were communicating to me.
(04:17):
And I, you know,I recorded them.
Sometimes I wouldspeak in some, I
started off writing it.
typing, trying to getthe, make sure I could
hold the connection.
Uh, and then I moved fromtyping it to trying to speak
it because I was seeingother people speaking.
So I was trying tospeak and make sure I
stay out of the way.
So the connection was clear,you know, and, and then trying
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to just went from there.
And then when I asked thequestion, because like I
said, this feeling feltsimilar and they said it
was Abraham Collectiveand all of this stuff.
So I'm askingquestions just for me.
You know, in the beginning,like, okay, who and what?
And so it kind of justprogressed from there.
And we've kind of justdeveloped and I've worked to
(04:59):
try to get better at allowingthem to communicate through
me so that we can be the, thelevel of support that now I
know that I'm inspired to be,which is, which is supporting
beings who are human at thismoment to be the most powerful
versions of themselvesand know who they are.
(05:22):
While they're walkingphysically and not after
they make the transition.
Rod Bland (05:27):
You mentioned the spontaneous OBE that occurred.
I'm fascinated by OBEs.
Can you tell us a bit moreabout what happened there?
Benny Ferguson (05:34):
Yeah, it's, um, well, at the time I
was working in financialservices, I was fully
licensed, uh, insurance,mutual funds, and different
things that we were offering.
And You know, I've alwaysbeen a, a strong learner
and all of that stuff.
And so I knew everythingthat I needed to do.
I just couldn't getmyself to do it right.
(05:55):
As far as the performancemaking the calls, there was
extreme fear of rejectionthere, uh, as far as one of
the fears that was in betweenme and being able to actually
perform, make the calls and,and go on the sales calls
while the guy that trained me.
He was very successful atthe time and he's still
doing that business.
He's very, veryfinancially successful.
(06:18):
Our vice president whohad more, who has and had
multiple offices at that time.
I mean, he was doing closeto six figures a month.
And so I spent a lot oftime around these guys.
Right.
I ate with them.
We went to conventionsand stuff together.
So I knew everything theyknew about the business.
And so I, but I couldn't getmyself to do the activities.
(06:40):
I didn't know then it wasthe fears and all of that
stuff that I had in my mind.
Uh, but so I was drivinghome one day, about a
30 hour, 30 minute drivefrom the office back home.
And I was justupset with myself.
Right.
I started crying.
I'm so upset.
Like what's wrong with me?
And I can't do the, I seethese guys doing it, but
I can't get myself to doit to the level that I
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need to, to even be atthe place financially I
need to be for myself.
And so I think a couple ofweeks later, I had, uh, and
this is what, this is 2006.
I had another fearbased dream, nightmare.
Um, and right before I wokeup, I told myself that I
was tired of being afraid.
(07:21):
And when I woke up, I was inan angry and I, it felt like
fire was coming off of me andI got up and I was standing
beside my bed and I was justfurious at myself, you know,
just tired of being afraid ofjust life in general, knowing,
not knowing how to get myselfto do some of the things that
I've always been inspired todo, you know, be in business.
And, and I've been leadingsince I was, A 14 year
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old overweight kid, youknow, I've been doing
things and leading people.
And, uh, my wife camearound the front of the bed.
This is like at 1.
30 in the morning.
She's asking me to calm down.
And then it happened andI was behind my body.
My vision was 360 degrees.
I can see my body, I cansee my wife in front of
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me, asking me to calm down.
And it took all I had tokeep myself from attacking
her because I was so upset.
And so what seemed likea long time was probably
just, you know, barelya second, maybe two.
Then I was back in my bodyand I turned and I, hit the
bookshelf that was beside me.
And so that's how I knowit wasn't a dream, right?
(08:28):
So because the next fewdays, the next week, my hands
were still all bruised up.
Um, so that's kind ofwhat got me out of the
religion idea and onthe path of looking for,
okay, what happened to me?
I see that there's morenow, so I need to figure
out what's really going on.
And Rod, I tell you, whenthat happened, I asked one
(08:51):
question that has kind ofbeen the overarching umbrella,
which I've gathered, I'veput everything that I've
learned up under, becauseyou know, there's so many
different ways you can go.
Like you said, from, fromUFOs and all of the stuff
out there that is, youknow, non physical things,
psychic things that we, thatare potentials for us that
we can go down, the roadpaths that we can go down.
(09:12):
But I asked one question,I said, Since I know now
that what I'm seeing and,and the body and all these
things is not the truth,I'm gonna find out what's
going on and what's true.
But what control and power doI have in and over my life?
That's the only questionI've got because I can't get
myself to do what I, whatI wanna do in my life here.
(09:34):
What control and powerdo I have if none of this
stuff is really real,if it's not the truth.
And so everything that I'velearned, I've put under that
one question and everythingthat I've learned under that
question is what I have forpeople to support people with.
And so that's beenmy guiding point ever
since that happened.
Rod Bland (09:53):
Yeah, there's often a catalyst, isn't
there, that causes you torethink your entire existence.
Benny Ferguson (10:00):
Yeah.
I'm fine.
And even with, you know, asI listened to other people's
stories and, you know,other guests that you've
had, it's very similar.
Rod Bland (10:11):
So, um, I'm deeply grateful that you're sharing
your personal journey withus, Benny, and if it fills
a line for you, I'd liketo invite Abraham to join
the conversation directly.
Would that be okay?
Benny Ferguson (10:24):
Yeah.
Rod Bland (10:25):
Awesome.
Just for people who arewatching that maybe not
familiar with channels, couldyou, um, just describe the
process and what it's like foryou to, to do the channeling?
Benny Ferguson (10:35):
Well, it's not, it's for me and I don't
know if this is somethingthat they have developed or
not they have developed, but.
I don't really haveto do anything, right?
It's like, they'realways here.
And, and I mean, they'rehere right now and they're
ready to start talking.
And, and they try to,they tell me to stop
saying we, right.
(10:57):
And that it's just us,you know, um, but I don't
really have to do anything.
There's no processor anything.
I just,
Kind of get out of theway and then just start
communicating what'sbeing communicated to me.
And it comes fromthis direction.
I can tell you that.
It comes from this direction.
That's, that'swhere I perceive the
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information coming.
But like I said, I don'treally have to do anything.
So we can, we canrock and roll.
Rod Bland (11:24):
Amazing.
So you're, you're, um, you'refully conscious of everything
that's said or like, uh,
Benny Ferguson (11:30):
I am, but I, I, I remember bits and pieces
because I'd, like I said, Itry to stay out of the way.
If I try to, if I try tointerpret and understand
and participate, theconnection is not as pure.
What's going to happen is whenI first start, it may sound
a little slow and a littlechoppy, but as we go on,
it'll get cleaner and it'll belike we're talking right now.
Rod Bland (11:53):
All right.
Fascinating.
All right.
Well, I've got it.
I've got a few questions here.
Benny Ferguson (11:59):
Okay.
Rod Bland (11:59):
Um, so, um, Abraham's mentioned, I've
heard mentioned often thatour experiences have got
seeds or causes that's rootedin our thoughts and beliefs.
So how can we identifyand transforming any
limiting belief undesiredoutcomes in our lives?
Benny Ferguson (12:21):
Yeah, that's an excellent question.
That's an excellent question.
And we are here.
Yeah, we're always here.
We're, we're always kind of.
Behind the scenes, tryingto, trying to push through.
Benny does a lot on hisown through his experience
and he's had a lot and, youknow, believe it or not, in
a short amount of time, we'vesupported a lot of people.
And so he has a lot ofinformation, but we're
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always behind the scenesand excited to come
through and participate inconversations like this.
Um, identifying limitingbeliefs, identifying those
dominant ideas within thehuman, the being who is
human, which is each of you.
that limits you, thatstands in resistance or in
conflict to that which youdesire, that which you are
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inspired to be, do, and have.
The truth is, it'sright in front of you.
It's always in front of you.
Anything that
feels off, anything thatyou might call negative,
a negative happening,these are ideas within
you being reflected.
(13:27):
You have to understand thatThat which is appearing
outside of you is areflection of, and the
truth is that those closestto you reflect it at a
higher frequency than whatyou might call a stranger.
But anything that'sappearing outside of you
is a reflection of you.
It's telling you what typeof ideas exist within you.
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Now, you may not beconscious of those ideas,
But when you can startsaying and believing
in yourself, okay, I'mpaying attention to what's
happening outside of me.
This was great.
Okay, that's fine.
This experience, not so great.
I really didn't like it.
So what is it that was,is within me that aligned
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me with that experience?
And we understand
that sometimes you don't wantto take responsibility for it.
Sometimes you don't want tosay, you don't want to believe
that I in any way had any partin creating this experience.
But your plane of existenceis built that way.
(14:32):
Period.
That which is appearingoutside of you is a
reflection of you.
Some way you are aligningwith that experience.
The collaborative componentsthat show up outside of
you in support of you tocreate experience are there
because of what you areoffering energetically.
So once you have an experiencethat you, that is undesirable,
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you can go into what youcall your meditation and
ask your inner being.
And these are, there's,there's pieces and parts to
these things that you want toget, maybe get familiar with.
Before you really jump into,but our biggest suggestion,
what we support peoplein understanding is that,
number one, your imaginationis a two way mirror.
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It's not a one way mirror.
Oftentimes individualsthink that, hey, they can
daydream or they can imaginesomething and put it on
the screen of their mind.
But think about your dreams.
When you have a dream,there's imagery there that
you're not putting there.
So where does it come from?
Well, it's comingfrom your inner being.
It's giving you imagerybased on things that you
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are familiar with tryingto communicate with you.
So your,
so your imaginationis a two way mirror.
It's a two way mirroror a two way window.
So what we suggest, you gointo meditation, get yourself
into a high vibration, askyour inner being what ideas
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Are there that's aligningme with this experience?
Or what ideas am I carryingthat are resisting that
which I am trying to create?
And allow it to show you viathe imagery of how the idea
is represented within you.
on the screen of your mindbecause you don't want to
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skip over these things.
Resistance, inner conflictis not something that you
just don't, you just wantto get rid of because
it's there for a reason.
These ideas inside of you arethere perfectly for a reason
for you to support you whenyou're growth and expansion.
So when you become awareof these things, you
want to understand them.
You will first want to bringthem into the light with the
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support of your inner being.
You want to understand them.
You want to understandand know, okay, what's the
difference between theseideas that I'm carrying and
the truth of you and source?
And then you wantto transform them.
And you transform themby utilizing whatever
imagery that you're innerbeing deems necessary
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to release that idea.
And it's interesting,sometimes it may be casting
it off into space somewherewhere you cannot reach
and it cannot return.
Whatever your innerbeing suggests, that's
what you should do.
But the crux of it is.
Allow your inner being tosupport you because it can see
that which is within your mindand body as a dominant idea.
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That which you cannot see atthe moment that you're not
conscious of, your inner beingcan see, but you have to ask.
You have to ask and you haveto be in the position to be
able to allow that supportand be aware of how your inner
being is communicating to you.
That's why we said there,there are steps from our
perspective that you needto play with so that you
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can be familiar with.
How your inner beingcommunicates to you.
Are you more feeling or areyou imagery or are you both?
We've had clients thatare one or the other or
they're kind of balanced.
Sometimes people aremore feeling when their
inner being communicates.
They're more soabout the feeling.
Sometimes they are moreperceptive of the imagery.
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But the key is allowyour inner being to
show you by asking.
Allow your inner beingto show you what is there
and then work with it.
That's our Sajid.
Rod Bland (18:27):
Thank you.
One of the purposes of mychannel is to wake people
up to the reality of whoand what they actually are.
Like they're just notthis physical being.
How would you describe thenature of us as human beings?
Benny Ferguson (18:42):
Oh man, you're true.
Your true nature is endless.
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now onmultiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on manyplanes in many dimensions.
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You've had many lifetimes thathave led you to this point.
Think about it.
Many of you that are listeningto this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten yearsago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
But now you are, and that'sthe result of your evolution,
not of this lifetime, butof multiple lifetimes that
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have placed you here tolisten to this interaction.
But the truth is,you are eternal.
You are infinite.
And the only reason you donot know that at this moment,
and you're not living andbreathing that truth, is
your current vibrationalexpression, your current
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position vibrationallythat you're offering in
the contents of your mind.
That which youare believing in.
That's the only reasonyou don't do not know.
And that's by design.
At the same time, As yougrow and understand the
truth of you, now youunderstand why you're
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putting in not the work,but the play and practice
to get back to that point.
And it's not somethingwhere you're having
to add things to you.
It's about letting go andreleasing the things that
are already within you.
The more you release, themore truth The more light
will shine through you.
(20:30):
It's about releasing.
It's not about adding.
Mm-Hmm.
Rod Bland (20:35):
I've heard you say something along the
lines of that it's reallyimportant that you align
yourself with things thatinspire you so that you
can live a fulfilling life.
And how do we distinguish,sorry, let me say that
again, how do we distinguishbetween these authentic sort
of soul level inspirationsand, and things that
are more ego driven orsocietal conditioning?
Benny Ferguson (20:59):
Mm-Hmm
Most of you that are, manyof you that are listening
to this, if you haveactually begun to play
and practice the work, ifyou will, of releasing,
you have become aware ofthose ideas within you.
(21:22):
Well, let's, let'stalk about this.
Let's talk about ideas withinyou as mature beings who
are human that you know havebeen present for a long time.
Many of you, manyof you have ideas.
You have been inspiredto things that have been
present for a long time andyou understand what we're
talking about because youhave been around mature
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adults who are about to maketheir transition and then
you have conversations withthem and they talk about
things that they always wantedto do but they never did.
Those are inspirations.
Those are not just, hey, Ithink I want to do this, or
hey, that's, I think I want toget that car, or hey, I think
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I want to go to this place.
Those are inspirations thatbubbled up inside of them
at a certain point in theirlife, and they never left,
right?
Benny's dad talks aboutbeing interested in
being a marine biologist.
He said that multipletimes in conversation.
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But of course, he believesthat he's too old to go back
to school and do all thesethings, but he will say it
out of his mouth that this issomething that he's thought
about and been interestedin for many, many years.
That's an inspiration.
And each of you understandthat ideas that have never
left you and why the reasonis so powerful and the
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reason it has never left.
is because that idea wasa part of the plan that
you set for yourselfbefore you entered into
your physical body.
And if you can be of thevibrational expression of
the mental framework thatallows you to move down that
path, there are things inplace that you have been
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set for you that help you inyour growth and expansion,
your evolution, if you will.
Now, do you have to do it?
No, but if you're capableof doing it, you would
be breathing the lifethat you actually set for
yourself and that feeling
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highly recognizable foreach individual when you
know that you're livingyour life in the way that
you're inspired to live.
It's a way of living that It'spart of what we're supporting
individuals to get to, butunderstanding that the idea
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of being inspired to dosomething, that swelling of
high energy when somethingappears or an idea and you're
like, that would be awesome.
I really, really wantto do that versus just
an, a fleeting idea ofthe mind connected to
the mind of humanity.
There's a significantdifference in the feeling.
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that allows you to understandand the longevity of the idea.
An idea born of the mindof humanity that sparks
in, it comes and goes.
That which you areinspired to doesn't leave.
It stays.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You get frustrated atnot having acted on it.
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Those are inspirationsborn of your inner being,
trying to show you a paththat would be highest and
best for you to follow.
Yeah.
And what you just
Rod Bland (24:50):
And there's a, there's a lot of suffering
and injustice in the worldand it can be challenging to
hold this perspective thateverything is unfolding,
you know, perfectly wellfrom a higher viewpoint.
So how would you guidesomeone to reconcile their,
you know, people that wantto have a compassion and a
desire to help with what'sgoing on and there's this
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kind of wisdom of generalacceptance of how things are.
Benny Ferguson (25:16):
The truth is, as you go down the path
of personal development,growth, evolution, from a
frequency perspective, themore you develop and elevate
yourself, along your personaljourney, vibrationally, that
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type of understanding opensup and comes into you and the
more you're able to acceptthe truth of the fact that
there is a greater planetworld for each individual,
and that all is perfect, andthat for each individual, if
you truly want to affect theworld, it's a matter of where
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you're placing your attention.
Right?
We had a conversation withsomeone recently, and they
were asking a similar questionabout things happening in the
world, and we brought to lightfor them, which they knew,
but they, you know, it's notwhere you place your focus.
They knew that simultaneously,while it looks like things
are bleak on the planet, atthe same time, there were,
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there are millions of peoplearound the world consuming
information like this.
Right?
But you wouldn't knowthat because mass media
is not showing thesetype things, right?
So there isexcellence, brilliance,
perfection at play.
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Vibrationally, number one,that which you perceive to
be not so great is alignmenthappening for individuals
and for groups, right?
In a low vibrational position,but it's perfect because
each one was low vibrationalon this plane of existence
before they raised theirfrequency and and got to a
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higher place or positionedthemselves to even be open
to these type transmissions.
But there's also anothersector going on where
Individuals, like we said,are listening and consuming
this type informationquietly, organically growing
in vibrational expression,cleansing themselves of low
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vibrational belief systems,dominant ideas, and bringing
more light into the world.
Right?
And the more this happens,the more each of you as
individuals participate inthis side of the happenings,
and the more light is releasedinto and onto your planet,
there's a critical massplace that will get crossed,
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to the point where it wouldbe undeniable that you were
able to look out and see.
Experiences being createdborn of brighter light because
of the numbers of beings whoare human on your planet are
allowing it to flow througheach of them as individuals.
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But it still comes backto acceptance, both
personally and lookingout into the world.
Acceptance that things arehappening perfectly and that
each one is perfectly ontheir own individual journey.
It really is about acceptance.
That was a perfectword to use.
Rod Bland (28:32):
Abraham, I've read many of your books
and you've often emphasizethe power of focusing
on what you want ratherthan what you don't want.
Um, yet we're also, thisis a conversation I often
have with my wife is thatwe're, we're advised to
allow and fully feel ourgenuine emotions as well.
So how can we honor ourfeelings without sort of
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amplifying the negative thingsthrough our attention to them?
Benny Ferguson (28:59):
hmm.
Well, you honor them
by loving yourself anyway.
Yes, I feel this way,
but I'm not standingin judgment of myself.
I'm not calling myselfgood, bad, right,
wrong, or negative.
I'm just seeing it.
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I see that I feel this way.
And I love myself regardless.
Now the question is,what is that doing?
What effect is that having?
The effect that that's havingis that the idea within you
that is the catalyst of that,what you might call a low
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vibrational idea, that isthe catalyst of the feeling.
When you love yourself in themidst of feeling that idea
being expressed, The vibrationof the love, the vibration of
the acceptance, the vibrationof being excited, being able
to watch the movement withinthe mind and body and not
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be moved by it, not be movedinto action by it, that energy
is affecting theidea within you,
right?
It's disrupting the idea.
And the more often you'reable to do that, you're
actually dissolving thoselow vibrational ideas that
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are causing these typesof feelings to present
themselves inside of you.
But it's about getting tothe place where you're able
to, number one, witness thoseexpressions within your body.
and being strong enoughnot to be affected or moved
by them, but to love them.
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Loving yourself inthe midst of it.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland (30:51):
Yes, that does.
That's, that's very useful.
Benny Ferguson (30:54):
Awesome.
Rod Bland (30:55):
So the, the, the path of spiritual growth,
for want of a better word,it can be a bit lonely at
times and, um, it's, or it'smisunderstood by other people.
And this is true for me.
So what advice would youoffer to someone who's
feeling isolated or perhapsa little bit discouraged in
their process of awakening?
Benny Ferguson: Continue the path. (31:25):
undefined
Continue the path.
Uh, intend, intend to comein contact with like minded
people because they're outthere feeling very similar.
Sometimes feeling stuck,not knowing what's next,
not knowing if they're doingthe right thing or not.
(31:46):
Right?
Not knowing what thenext process is, what
they should be doing.
Um, and yes, oftentimes atthis moment, individuals
who have become aware ofthe truth and are seeking
to be an expression oftheir truth are amongst
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individuals not on thatsame path, not in the same
position, which is perfectbecause as you grow, You are a
vibrational model forthose that you are around.
So it's perfect,
but you can look out, likewe said, on your social
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media and see that thereare others on the same path.
You can intend to comein contact with others
on the same path.
But we do understandthe, that feeling.
We do understand that feeling.
That feeling is something that
Benny has experiencedand gone through often.
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Often.
Even though he supportsindividuals who are on this.
path.
Intending to, if it'snecessary, if that's a
strong desire, but intendingto come in contact with
individuals so that you canhave similar like minded
conversations is one way.
But the truth is, as youmove down this path, the
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stronger you will get becausethe truth of you in source,
the truth of you in source,in the truth of you in source,
all exist,
and what you are becomingis a powerful individual
who is not only detachedfrom the happenings on your
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plane of existence, butis a source of light on
your plane of existence.
Rod Bland (33:47):
Hmm.
This question just popped intomy head, so it must be one
that a lot of people have.
What actually happensto us when we die?
Benny Ferguson (33:56):
Well, the first part of that is that
you never die, actually.
You just transition.
You make your transition.
And when you make yourtransition, you evaluate
that which you createdin your life experience.
If we just use this planeof experience, you evaluate
what was created andyou decide on the next.
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Is there something that youwant to continue to explore
on this plane of existence?
Or is there another planethat you desire to explore?
to go and createan experience.
It depends on that which youwere capable of creating in
your life and also where youare in your soul's evolution
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in the overall grand schemeof that which is You, but
there's no true death.
There's no death.
Consciousness does not die.
Consciousness exists.
Consciousness is eternal.
Therefore, you are.
Yes,
Rod Bland (34:56):
I've heard you mention that in our
natural state we've gotaccess to an abundance of
insights and guidance andI'm always looking for ways
to help, uh, tap into that.
So, um, what daily practicesor rituals would you
recommend for someone tohelp strengthen that ability
to tap into that intuition?
Benny Ferguson (35:13):
that is a matter of frequency.
Tapping into your,your abilities, your,
those abilities, thoseabilities that exist
for each of you is amatter of frequency.
What we don't, what, whatis misunderstood or not
known is that Truth isa matter of frequency.
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There are higher truthsthat open up to you based
on your frequency, based onyour vibrational expression,
and therefore, and thisis the evolution, this is
the growth that happens.
If you think about the
spiritual teacher, someonein your history that, that
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made it into a book, right,was written about, or
something of that nature,the play and practice, the
meditations, all these thingsthat they did for many,
many years, the releasing
that they played with and thatthey practiced that was a part
(36:20):
of their growth and expansion.
was about theirvibration raising.
Which is the samething for you.
As you go down this pathof growth and expansion,
as you take in thismaterial, and as you release
resistance organically,your vibration rises.
And when you hold a higherfrequency, and it can be a
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fraction of a, if we use yourhigher lower idea, it can be
a fraction of an elevation,of elevating in frequency from
where you are now normally.
That next level of frequencyexpression held consistently
will open you up to ideasborn of that frequency,
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which in turn opens youup to new and greater
truths and understandings,perception of life,
interpretation of life events.
This is what grows and expandsyou into being able to accept
that which is happeningaround you on your planet.
It's a matter of frequency.
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It's a matter of vibration.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland (37:33):
it does.
So is it necessary for us tobe really good meditators or
is there some Is it just amatter of if our frequency is
raised, that helps us like,you know, say through music
or just being in nature is,is, is that all we need to do?
Benny Ferguson (37:48):
There you go.
There's the, the idea is tounderstand what the purpose
of meditation is, right?
The purpose of meditation.
If you think about someonesitting still, being still
in a quiet space wherethey're doing, they're
shutting off their senses.
Right?
If you turn down the volumeon things so that you don't
(38:09):
have any input coming intoyour hearing, you have your
eyes closed so you don'thave anything coming into
your, your seeing, you're noteating or tasting anything.
So all of those thingsare shut down and
you're being still.
And if you're doing ameditation where you're
just focusing on yourbreath, what are you doing?
You're giving your mindsomething to focus on
because you can't quietthe mind, but you can give
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it something to focus on,which stops all the chatter.
And when all the chatterstops and your mind is not
jumping to and fro, normallyon ideas of low vibration,
normally considering thingsthat you do not want, well,
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naturally, in that space,your vibration lives.
This is the purpose ofmeditation, giving the
mind something to focuson so that you can begin
to become aware of what itfeels like within the body.
to not to be not to beweighted by all of those
low vibrational ideas thatyou're a person normally
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considers throughout the day.
All the worries, all thedoubts, all the fears
that are ignited withinbased on observing the
outside experienceshappening outside of them.
That's the purposeof meditation.
But when you understandthat It's all about
raising your frequency.
That's at the core.
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That's what's happeningwhen you give the mind
something to focus on.
Then you can shift.
Yes, you can still use it asa tool, but then you can shift
to exactly what you said.
Music is a perfect way,but actually it's anything
that lifts your spirits.
Anything that liftsyour, when we say spirit,
we're talking about yourvibration, your frequency.
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It can be the rememberingof a beautiful experience.
It can be a favorite song.
It can be the ideaof the rainbow.
Anything that offersa pure expression.
If you can situate yourselfin that feeling place and
lift even, like we said,even a fraction of an
amount above your normalwalking around state and
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hold it consistently.
the point.
And then understand why thatmatters and what you're doing.
You're conditioning your body.
You're conditioningyour body to a higher
vibrational state of whichyour mind aligns itself.
Your brain begins tophysically align itself
(40:39):
with this new vibrationalstate, but you have to
be consistent with it.
You have to beconsistent with it.
Consistency is the key in thispractice, in these processes.
Consistency is the key.
This is what all ofyour, what you would
call a spiritual master.
This is what they did.
They were consistent.
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Oftentimes they wentto locations to where
they weren't bothered.
But each of you listeningto this information, if you
are living your life as anormal being who is human,
and you're about to play inpractice of being consistent,
You're going to be muchstronger more quickly than
those spiritual teachers thatyou read about because many
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of them went to locations,isolated locations, to
get to the place that theywere and they weren't being
bombarded through theirsenses by everyday life, work,
family, marriage, children,strangers, neighbors,
all of these things.
You are on this play aboutthis play and practice
while living your life.
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So you're getting stronger,faster, but it's still
about consistency.
It's still about consistency.
Rod Bland (41:55):
Abraham, before we wrap up, I'm, I'm curious
if you have any specificinsights or guidance for me
as the host of this podcast.
So what wisdom wouldyou offer me in my role
as an interviewer and,you know, someone who's
trying to facilitatethese conversations?
Thanks.
Benny Ferguson (42:10):
You have done it some to this
point, we believe, uh,but be intuitive about it.
Allow your inner being tospeak to you as you are
speaking to individualsand asking questions.
The questions that, and youhave done it here, but look
(42:31):
for those deep questions toask, that the answers will
resonate and cut deeply intoyour viewers, and truly, and
really, even more so than now,open them up to where they are
still simmering on the insidethe next day, three days.
(42:55):
A week later, they're stillsimmering from that which
was offered based on thequestions that you answered.
For you are connectedto your viewers, right?
You are connectedto your listeners.
So the more intuitiveyou are in asking your
questions, The more
(43:17):
effective the answerswill be because they will
cut deeply, as deep asyou can pull and allow
the question to come.
Does that make sense?
Mm hmm, mm
Rod Bland (43:32):
Yeah, it does.
So, I, I have one,one final one.
It's, it's to do with thingsthat you're curious about and,
um, Reconciling things thatyou're following the, sort of
following the lead of thingsthat you're curious about and
things that are, you know, Iguess seen to be of service.
(43:55):
And I, I feel like sometimesjust simply following
what you're curiousabout is somewhat self
serving in a world wherewe need people to be more
of a service to others.
So how do you reconcilethose two things?
What have you, what wisdomhave you got for us there?
Benny Ferguson (44:13):
Yeah, that's a powerful question.
That's a powerfulquestion, and the answer
may be a little uneasyfor many, but you have
to understand that Thisis a selfish journey.
This is a selfish journey.
Each of you listening, eachof you as individuals, you
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are the center of your verse.
And the truth is there'snothing that you have to
do, even though you're beinginspired from the inside out.
But there's nothingthat you have to do.
You owe nothing.
You're not responsiblefor anything, truly,
even though the mind ofhumanity says, When you're
a husband, you should ABC.
(44:57):
When you're a parent,you should ABC.
But actually, it's not true.
There's no shoulds.
There's no shoulds.
It is selfie.
And what you don't understandis that if you selfishly
follow that which you areinspired to, selfishly
follow those things thatyou just mentioned, that
you're curious about,
(45:19):
you don't know whatknowledge, wisdom, next
steps, reveal themselvesas you follow those ideas.
That may help you be selfie.
A better husband, if that'swhat you're intending.
Help you be a betterparent, if that's
what you're intending.
Gems are there if you followyour selfish expressions,
(45:44):
your selfish curiosity.
For that's why you're here.
When you make your transition,nobody else is there.
It's only you.
This is a huge misconception,because humanity has been
conditioned to believethat this spiritual
journey is about beingall of these things to
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others, when the truth is,
your ability to be ofthe highest effect and
influence to othersis as a result of you.
of your personal having grownpersonally as an individual,
and you grow personally asan individually by following
(46:30):
that which bubbles up insideof you, and that which
bubbles up inside of youactually is only for you.
You see how that's kindof, there's like an inverse
thing going on there?
Rod Bland (46:44):
Hmm.
Benny Ferguson (46:44):
The more selfish you are about
following that which you areexcited about, Especially
if you're on this path,
the stronger and the brighterof a light you are, number
one, a model for all of thoseyou come in contact with.
But then when you start addingin that idea of acceptance,
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you're capable of being
and getting closer andcloser to being a full, free
expression of source for thoseclosest to you and for those
that you come in contact with.
seeking your support.
It's a very interestingthing, but that perspective,
(47:27):
the interpretation,the understanding
opens up to you again.
It's tied to the frequency.
It's tough.
It's tied to the frequencythat you're offering,
that you're breathing,that you're interacting
in on a consistent level.
The understanding ofall of these things.
is in the frequencythat you're offering.
(47:48):
So, if we were to suggestanything, it would be to reach
for the highest frequencythat you can, as often as
you can, and try to hold it.
Again, conditioning the mindand body to that frequency,
and opening yourself up tothe truths of that frequency.
(48:08):
And if you can do that, ifyou play with that and stay
with that, everything thatyou desire to understand
will make its way into you.
And when it starts to make itsway into you, you will know.
And you'll also know thatyou're doing the right things
as far as your personalgrowth and expansion.
(48:29):
You'll know that you'reon the right path and
moving in the right
Rod Bland (48:34):
Thank you.
Is there anything that, uh,you'd like to get towards
in this conversation?
Anything you'd liketo leave people with?
Anything additionalthat you'd want to say
that isn't necessarily aquestion I've already asked?
Benny Ferguson: Open yourself up. (48:46):
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Ask yourself questions.
Based on where you are,ask yourself questions.
Ask yourself what's next.
Ask yourself whoyou are truly.
What you are capable of.
Ask yourself those,those deep questions.
And don't beashamed to ask them.
(49:07):
Humanity has been conditionedthrough its religion that
you have to be human.
Careful about what you ask.
That hierarchy thing, thatauthority hierarchy thing
that has been sewn intohumanity's spiritual growth
that completely throws it off.
The truth is thatyou're talking to you.
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When you ask the question, soit doesn't matter how angry
you are, it doesn't matterhow frustrated you are, it
doesn't matter how excitedyou are, just understand
that you're talking to you.
So whatever the questionthat you have, or even if
you don't know what questionsto ask, ask what questions
you need to be asking.
(49:50):
That will help you movedown the path of growth
and expansion for you andexpect the answer, right?
Expect the answer becauseyou're talking to you and
the minute you start askingthe question, the minute
you will start pulling theinformation to you that is
perfect for you in the moment.
That is what we think issomething that needs to be
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understood, needs to be knownfor, for those listening.
Rod Bland (50:18):
Abraham, it's been a great privilege for
me to be able to talk to you.
Um, uh, there'sprobably more for Benny.
Uh, people are going towant to ask questions.
Benny, could you let usknow, you know, briefly what
you've got going on as faras how people can get in
touch with you, if there'sany particular services
that you offer people?
Benny Ferguson (50:34):
Yeah, well, we're growing a global
community, which is exciting.
I've worked with people andhave people in our community
now all over the world.
I have people inyour, in your country.
Um, but yeah, you can find usat, well, we have, first of
all, to get people started.
We have a few free things,uh, free trainings.
One is, uh, atIamthediscourse.
(50:57):
com.
That's a, um, free trainingthat kind of discusses
who you are, and whatyou're capable of and why
you don't know it yet.
Uh, there's another freetraining that at www.
accelerated evolution.
com where we talk aboutthe three attention shifts
(51:17):
that you have to make inorder to know that you're
working at your foundationand it gets into the whys of
what we were talking about.
The purpose of meditation,the purpose of reaching
for a higher frequency.
We go over those things.
Again, there's so manydifferent directions a person
can go, uh, on this path.
(51:38):
But if you want to know howto make sure that you're
doing the right things andworking at your foundation
to really expand yourselfas an individual, we go over
those three attention shifts.
Uh, you can find us onYouTube, uh, at Consciousness
Ascending, hyphen, Benny R.
Ferguson, JR.
Uh, we're always puttingnew material up there.
(52:01):
Uh, but if you connectwith us through any of
those venues, then You willget the information about
what else is going on.
We do private sessions.
We have, uh, monthlyworkshops, and we have
a private communitythat's growing, uh, where
we offer, like, closecontact interaction.
conversation, uh, weekly Q andA's for people who are really
(52:26):
about the play and practiceof releasing the resistance
that they have in their lifeand expanding and wanting
to accelerate that process.
Rod Bland (52:35):
All right.
Well, we'll put linksto all of that in the
show notes, Benny.
Uh, thank you so muchfor being my bestie.
Let me try that again.
Thank you so much forbeing my guest today.
It's been a greatpleasure to talk to you.
Benny Ferguson (52:48):
Yeah, this has been awesome.
We really appreciate it beingable to be of support and we
look forward to the next time.
Your true nature is endless.
(00:02):
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now onmultiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on manyplanes in many dimensions.
You've had many lifetimes thathave led you to this point.
Think about it.
(00:22):
Many of you that are listeningto this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten yearsago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
Rod Bland (00:34):
With me today is Benny Ferguson, Jr.
Thanks for comingon the show, Benny.
Benny Ferguson (00:39):
Yeah, Ron, it's awesome to be here.
We're excited.
Rod Bland (00:42):
Yeah, me too.
Uh, we were just sayingoff the air that's really
my first introduction to,I guess anything really.
Well, anything esotericapart from UFOs because
I've been interested inthat for a long time.
But as far as channelinggoes, especially was
the work of, uh, EstherHicks with, uh, Abraham.
And so I was really excitedto get your email to, uh, have
(01:05):
you on as a guest on the show.
So, um, I'm curious aboutyour, your personal journey
with channeling Abraham.
So can you share a bitabout how this connection
first began for you andhow it's evolved over time?
Benny Ferguson (01:18):
Yeah, well, the connection for me, um,
I guess I started channelingback in 2012 is when I, when
I realized I was channeling.
Now, to tell the truth,looking back, I was, I had
already begun channeling.
I just didn't know.
And the funny thing isit was with school when
I was in college, um,
(01:40):
when I had a paper to write.
And this, this is, it seemsfunny and weird at the same
time when I tell it, but,when I would have a paper
to write, I would get, doall the research and have
the paper, have everythingready, but I could never
actually get my mind straightto sit down and write it
until the night before.
And the night before, it wouldbe 12:30, 1:00 o'clock, it's
due the next day, and thewhole paper, three, four, five
(02:03):
page paper would come through.
And, and now looking back,the way it happened, I was
being supported then andjust didn't realize it.
So it was, You know, andthen finding out later that
this is something that Ihad done before prev in
previous lifetimes and it'ssomething that I said I
was going to do this time.
And so looking back Over mylife, you know, starting as
(02:24):
a child, I was having whatI called nightmares in like
early elementary school.
I was trying to, theywere trying to contact me
and kind of get me movingalong this path back then.
I just wasn't ready.
Right.
I was in religion andmy family and all my
family was in religion.
So I had no framework forany of this type of thing
until 2006 when I had aspontaneous out of body
(02:48):
experience and so that kindof forced me to start looking
outside of religion andoutside of all the things
that I had grown up around.
Um, and when I firststarted channeling, I
wasn't channeling Abraham.
Um, I was listeningto a lot of Esther.
Uh, I had watched TheSecret and, and kind of
got intrigued by that.
(03:09):
Um, I don't know how manypeople did this, but I, all
of the people that were in TheSecret, I went and found their
websites and all that stuff,and I looked for information
on what they studied toget to where they were.
And so I found all theirbook lists and all these
things that they suggested,bought all the books,
(03:31):
read all of the stuff thatthey read, on their way.
And then of course I waslistening to the videos
and that type of thing.
And then for whateverreason, you know, I started
channeling with, with Abrahamand I, and I asked if it
was them, cause it kind offelt similar to how I felt
sometimes when I was listeningto them on the videos.
And, um, we've kind of beendoing it for a while now.
(03:54):
I guess probably, you know,2006, I started, no, not
2006, 2012, I started andnot shortly after It's been
me channeling them, but inthe initial, it wasn't them.
And I know it wasn't them.
I could feel differentvibrational presences on me
and I could interpret whatthey were communicating to me.
(04:17):
And I, you know,I recorded them.
Sometimes I wouldspeak in some, I
started off writing it.
typing, trying to getthe, make sure I could
hold the connection.
Uh, and then I moved fromtyping it to trying to speak
it because I was seeingother people speaking.
So I was trying tospeak and make sure I
stay out of the way.
So the connection was clear,you know, and, and then trying
(04:39):
to just went from there.
And then when I asked thequestion, because like I
said, this feeling feltsimilar and they said it
was Abraham Collectiveand all of this stuff.
So I'm askingquestions just for me.
You know, in the beginning,like, okay, who and what?
And so it kind of justprogressed from there.
And we've kind of justdeveloped and I've worked to
(04:59):
try to get better at allowingthem to communicate through
me so that we can be the, thelevel of support that now I
know that I'm inspired to be,which is, which is supporting
beings who are human at thismoment to be the most powerful
versions of themselvesand know who they are.
(05:22):
While they're walkingphysically and not after
they make the transition.
Rod Bland (05:27):
You mentioned the spontaneous OBE that occurred.
I'm fascinated by OBEs.
Can you tell us a bit moreabout what happened there?
Benny Ferguson (05:34):
Yeah, it's, um, well, at the time I
was working in financialservices, I was fully
licensed, uh, insurance,mutual funds, and different
things that we were offering.
And You know, I've alwaysbeen a, a strong learner
and all of that stuff.
And so I knew everythingthat I needed to do.
I just couldn't getmyself to do it right.
(05:55):
As far as the performancemaking the calls, there was
extreme fear of rejectionthere, uh, as far as one of
the fears that was in betweenme and being able to actually
perform, make the calls and,and go on the sales calls
while the guy that trained me.
He was very successful atthe time and he's still
doing that business.
He's very, veryfinancially successful.
(06:18):
Our vice president whohad more, who has and had
multiple offices at that time.
I mean, he was doing closeto six figures a month.
And so I spent a lot oftime around these guys.
Right.
I ate with them.
We went to conventionsand stuff together.
So I knew everything theyknew about the business.
And so I, but I couldn't getmyself to do the activities.
(06:40):
I didn't know then it wasthe fears and all of that
stuff that I had in my mind.
Uh, but so I was drivinghome one day, about a
30 hour, 30 minute drivefrom the office back home.
And I was justupset with myself.
Right.
I started crying.
I'm so upset.
Like what's wrong with me?
And I can't do the, I seethese guys doing it, but
I can't get myself to doit to the level that I
(07:00):
need to, to even be atthe place financially I
need to be for myself.
And so I think a couple ofweeks later, I had, uh, and
this is what, this is 2006.
I had another fearbased dream, nightmare.
Um, and right before I wokeup, I told myself that I
was tired of being afraid.
(07:21):
And when I woke up, I was inan angry and I, it felt like
fire was coming off of me andI got up and I was standing
beside my bed and I was justfurious at myself, you know,
just tired of being afraid ofjust life in general, knowing,
not knowing how to get myselfto do some of the things that
I've always been inspired todo, you know, be in business.
And, and I've been leadingsince I was, A 14 year
(07:46):
old overweight kid, youknow, I've been doing
things and leading people.
And, uh, my wife camearound the front of the bed.
This is like at 1.
30 in the morning.
She's asking me to calm down.
And then it happened andI was behind my body.
My vision was 360 degrees.
I can see my body, I cansee my wife in front of
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me, asking me to calm down.
And it took all I had tokeep myself from attacking
her because I was so upset.
And so what seemed likea long time was probably
just, you know, barelya second, maybe two.
Then I was back in my bodyand I turned and I, hit the
bookshelf that was beside me.
And so that's how I knowit wasn't a dream, right?
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So because the next fewdays, the next week, my hands
were still all bruised up.
Um, so that's kind ofwhat got me out of the
religion idea and onthe path of looking for,
okay, what happened to me?
I see that there's morenow, so I need to figure
out what's really going on.
And Rod, I tell you, whenthat happened, I asked one
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question that has kind ofbeen the overarching umbrella,
which I've gathered, I'veput everything that I've
learned up under, becauseyou know, there's so many
different ways you can go.
Like you said, from, fromUFOs and all of the stuff
out there that is, youknow, non physical things,
psychic things that we, thatare potentials for us that
we can go down, the roadpaths that we can go down.
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But I asked one question,I said, Since I know now
that what I'm seeing and,and the body and all these
things is not the truth,I'm gonna find out what's
going on and what's true.
But what control and power doI have in and over my life?
That's the only questionI've got because I can't get
myself to do what I, whatI wanna do in my life here.
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What control and powerdo I have if none of this
stuff is really real,if it's not the truth.
And so everything that I'velearned, I've put under that
one question and everythingthat I've learned under that
question is what I have forpeople to support people with.
And so that's beenmy guiding point ever
since that happened.
Rod Bland (09:53):
Yeah, there's often a catalyst, isn't
there, that causes you torethink your entire existence.
Benny Ferguson (10:00):
Yeah.
I'm fine.
And even with, you know, asI listened to other people's
stories and, you know,other guests that you've
had, it's very similar.
Rod Bland (10:11):
So, um, I'm deeply grateful that you're sharing
your personal journey withus, Benny, and if it fills
a line for you, I'd liketo invite Abraham to join
the conversation directly.
Would that be okay?
Benny Ferguson (10:24):
Yeah.
Rod Bland (10:25):
Awesome.
Just for people who arewatching that maybe not
familiar with channels, couldyou, um, just describe the
process and what it's like foryou to, to do the channeling?
Benny Ferguson (10:35):
Well, it's not, it's for me and I don't
know if this is somethingthat they have developed or
not they have developed, but.
I don't really haveto do anything, right?
It's like, they'realways here.
And, and I mean, they'rehere right now and they're
ready to start talking.
And, and they try to,they tell me to stop
saying we, right.
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And that it's just us,you know, um, but I don't
really have to do anything.
There's no processor anything.
I just,
Kind of get out of theway and then just start
communicating what'sbeing communicated to me.
And it comes fromthis direction.
I can tell you that.
It comes from this direction.
That's, that'swhere I perceive the
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information coming.
But like I said, I don'treally have to do anything.
So we can, we canrock and roll.
Rod Bland (11:24):
Amazing.
So you're, you're, um, you'refully conscious of everything
that's said or like, uh,
Benny Ferguson (11:30):
I am, but I, I, I remember bits and pieces
because I'd, like I said, Itry to stay out of the way.
If I try to, if I try tointerpret and understand
and participate, theconnection is not as pure.
What's going to happen is whenI first start, it may sound
a little slow and a littlechoppy, but as we go on,
it'll get cleaner and it'll belike we're talking right now.
Rod Bland (11:53):
All right.
Fascinating.
All right.
Well, I've got it.
I've got a few questions here.
Benny Ferguson (11:59):
Okay.
Rod Bland (11:59):
Um, so, um, Abraham's mentioned, I've
heard mentioned often thatour experiences have got
seeds or causes that's rootedin our thoughts and beliefs.
So how can we identifyand transforming any
limiting belief undesiredoutcomes in our lives?
Benny Ferguson (12:21):
Yeah, that's an excellent question.
That's an excellent question.
And we are here.
Yeah, we're always here.
We're, we're always kind of.
Behind the scenes, tryingto, trying to push through.
Benny does a lot on hisown through his experience
and he's had a lot and, youknow, believe it or not, in
a short amount of time, we'vesupported a lot of people.
And so he has a lot ofinformation, but we're
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always behind the scenesand excited to come
through and participate inconversations like this.
Um, identifying limitingbeliefs, identifying those
dominant ideas within thehuman, the being who is
human, which is each of you.
that limits you, thatstands in resistance or in
conflict to that which youdesire, that which you are
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inspired to be, do, and have.
The truth is, it'sright in front of you.
It's always in front of you.
Anything that
feels off, anything thatyou might call negative,
a negative happening,these are ideas within
you being reflected.
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You have to understand thatThat which is appearing
outside of you is areflection of, and the
truth is that those closestto you reflect it at a
higher frequency than whatyou might call a stranger.
But anything that'sappearing outside of you
is a reflection of you.
It's telling you what typeof ideas exist within you.
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Now, you may not beconscious of those ideas,
But when you can startsaying and believing
in yourself, okay, I'mpaying attention to what's
happening outside of me.
This was great.
Okay, that's fine.
This experience, not so great.
I really didn't like it.
So what is it that was,is within me that aligned
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me with that experience?
And we understand
that sometimes you don't wantto take responsibility for it.
Sometimes you don't want tosay, you don't want to believe
that I in any way had any partin creating this experience.
But your plane of existenceis built that way.
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Period.
That which is appearingoutside of you is a
reflection of you.
Some way you are aligningwith that experience.
The collaborative componentsthat show up outside of
you in support of you tocreate experience are there
because of what you areoffering energetically.
So once you have an experiencethat you, that is undesirable,
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you can go into what youcall your meditation and
ask your inner being.
And these are, there's,there's pieces and parts to
these things that you want toget, maybe get familiar with.
Before you really jump into,but our biggest suggestion,
what we support peoplein understanding is that,
number one, your imaginationis a two way mirror.
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It's not a one way mirror.
Oftentimes individualsthink that, hey, they can
daydream or they can imaginesomething and put it on
the screen of their mind.
But think about your dreams.
When you have a dream,there's imagery there that
you're not putting there.
So where does it come from?
Well, it's comingfrom your inner being.
It's giving you imagerybased on things that you
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are familiar with tryingto communicate with you.
So your,
so your imaginationis a two way mirror.
It's a two way mirroror a two way window.
So what we suggest, you gointo meditation, get yourself
into a high vibration, askyour inner being what ideas
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Are there that's aligningme with this experience?
Or what ideas am I carryingthat are resisting that
which I am trying to create?
And allow it to show you viathe imagery of how the idea
is represented within you.
on the screen of your mindbecause you don't want to
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skip over these things.
Resistance, inner conflictis not something that you
just don't, you just wantto get rid of because
it's there for a reason.
These ideas inside of you arethere perfectly for a reason
for you to support you whenyou're growth and expansion.
So when you become awareof these things, you
want to understand them.
You will first want to bringthem into the light with the
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support of your inner being.
You want to understand them.
You want to understandand know, okay, what's the
difference between theseideas that I'm carrying and
the truth of you and source?
And then you wantto transform them.
And you transform themby utilizing whatever
imagery that you're innerbeing deems necessary
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to release that idea.
And it's interesting,sometimes it may be casting
it off into space somewherewhere you cannot reach
and it cannot return.
Whatever your innerbeing suggests, that's
what you should do.
But the crux of it is.
Allow your inner being tosupport you because it can see
that which is within your mindand body as a dominant idea.
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That which you cannot see atthe moment that you're not
conscious of, your inner beingcan see, but you have to ask.
You have to ask and you haveto be in the position to be
able to allow that supportand be aware of how your inner
being is communicating to you.
That's why we said there,there are steps from our
perspective that you needto play with so that you
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can be familiar with.
How your inner beingcommunicates to you.
Are you more feeling or areyou imagery or are you both?
We've had clients thatare one or the other or
they're kind of balanced.
Sometimes people aremore feeling when their
inner being communicates.
They're more soabout the feeling.
Sometimes they are moreperceptive of the imagery.
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But the key is allowyour inner being to
show you by asking.
Allow your inner beingto show you what is there
and then work with it.
That's our Sajid.
Rod Bland (18:27):
Thank you.
One of the purposes of mychannel is to wake people
up to the reality of whoand what they actually are.
Like they're just notthis physical being.
How would you describe thenature of us as human beings?
Benny Ferguson (18:42):
Oh man, you're true.
Your true nature is endless.
It has no beginning.
It has no end.
You're pure consciousness.
You are existing now onmultiple planes of existence,
having multiple experiences.
Now you've had existed on manyplanes in many dimensions.
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You've had many lifetimes thathave led you to this point.
Think about it.
Many of you that are listeningto this conversation, this
interaction, five, ten yearsago, you weren't open to
this type of interaction.
But now you are, and that'sthe result of your evolution,
not of this lifetime, butof multiple lifetimes that
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have placed you here tolisten to this interaction.
But the truth is,you are eternal.
You are infinite.
And the only reason you donot know that at this moment,
and you're not living andbreathing that truth, is
your current vibrationalexpression, your current
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position vibrationallythat you're offering in
the contents of your mind.
That which youare believing in.
That's the only reasonyou don't do not know.
And that's by design.
At the same time, As yougrow and understand the
truth of you, now youunderstand why you're
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putting in not the work,but the play and practice
to get back to that point.
And it's not somethingwhere you're having
to add things to you.
It's about letting go andreleasing the things that
are already within you.
The more you release, themore truth The more light
will shine through you.
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It's about releasing.
It's not about adding.
Mm-Hmm.
Rod Bland (20:35):
I've heard you say something along the
lines of that it's reallyimportant that you align
yourself with things thatinspire you so that you
can live a fulfilling life.
And how do we distinguish,sorry, let me say that
again, how do we distinguishbetween these authentic sort
of soul level inspirationsand, and things that
are more ego driven orsocietal conditioning?
Benny Ferguson (20:59):
Mm-Hmm
Most of you that are, manyof you that are listening
to this, if you haveactually begun to play
and practice the work, ifyou will, of releasing,
you have become aware ofthose ideas within you.
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Well, let's, let'stalk about this.
Let's talk about ideas withinyou as mature beings who
are human that you know havebeen present for a long time.
Many of you, manyof you have ideas.
You have been inspiredto things that have been
present for a long time andyou understand what we're
talking about because youhave been around mature
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adults who are about to maketheir transition and then
you have conversations withthem and they talk about
things that they always wantedto do but they never did.
Those are inspirations.
Those are not just, hey, Ithink I want to do this, or
hey, that's, I think I want toget that car, or hey, I think
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I want to go to this place.
Those are inspirations thatbubbled up inside of them
at a certain point in theirlife, and they never left,
right?
Benny's dad talks aboutbeing interested in
being a marine biologist.
He said that multipletimes in conversation.
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But of course, he believesthat he's too old to go back
to school and do all thesethings, but he will say it
out of his mouth that this issomething that he's thought
about and been interestedin for many, many years.
That's an inspiration.
And each of you understandthat ideas that have never
left you and why the reasonis so powerful and the
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reason it has never left.
is because that idea wasa part of the plan that
you set for yourselfbefore you entered into
your physical body.
And if you can be of thevibrational expression of
the mental framework thatallows you to move down that
path, there are things inplace that you have been
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set for you that help you inyour growth and expansion,
your evolution, if you will.
Now, do you have to do it?
No, but if you're capableof doing it, you would
be breathing the lifethat you actually set for
yourself and that feeling
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highly recognizable foreach individual when you
know that you're livingyour life in the way that
you're inspired to live.
It's a way of living that It'spart of what we're supporting
individuals to get to, butunderstanding that the idea
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of being inspired to dosomething, that swelling of
high energy when somethingappears or an idea and you're
like, that would be awesome.
I really, really wantto do that versus just
an, a fleeting idea ofthe mind connected to
the mind of humanity.
There's a significantdifference in the feeling.
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that allows you to understandand the longevity of the idea.
An idea born of the mindof humanity that sparks
in, it comes and goes.
That which you areinspired to doesn't leave.
It stays.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You go to bed with it.
You wake up with it.
You get frustrated atnot having acted on it.
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Those are inspirationsborn of your inner being,
trying to show you a paththat would be highest and
best for you to follow.
Yeah.
And what you just
Rod Bland (24:50):
And there's a, there's a lot of suffering
and injustice in the worldand it can be challenging to
hold this perspective thateverything is unfolding,
you know, perfectly wellfrom a higher viewpoint.
So how would you guidesomeone to reconcile their,
you know, people that wantto have a compassion and a
desire to help with what'sgoing on and there's this
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kind of wisdom of generalacceptance of how things are.
Benny Ferguson (25:16):
The truth is, as you go down the path
of personal development,growth, evolution, from a
frequency perspective, themore you develop and elevate
yourself, along your personaljourney, vibrationally, that
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type of understanding opensup and comes into you and the
more you're able to acceptthe truth of the fact that
there is a greater planetworld for each individual,
and that all is perfect, andthat for each individual, if
you truly want to affect theworld, it's a matter of where
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you're placing your attention.
Right?
We had a conversation withsomeone recently, and they
were asking a similar questionabout things happening in the
world, and we brought to lightfor them, which they knew,
but they, you know, it's notwhere you place your focus.
They knew that simultaneously,while it looks like things
are bleak on the planet, atthe same time, there were,
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there are millions of peoplearound the world consuming
information like this.
Right?
But you wouldn't knowthat because mass media
is not showing thesetype things, right?
So there isexcellence, brilliance,
perfection at play.
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Vibrationally, number one,that which you perceive to
be not so great is alignmenthappening for individuals
and for groups, right?
In a low vibrational position,but it's perfect because
each one was low vibrationalon this plane of existence
before they raised theirfrequency and and got to a
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higher place or positionedthemselves to even be open
to these type transmissions.
But there's also anothersector going on where
Individuals, like we said,are listening and consuming
this type informationquietly, organically growing
in vibrational expression,cleansing themselves of low
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vibrational belief systems,dominant ideas, and bringing
more light into the world.
Right?
And the more this happens,the more each of you as
individuals participate inthis side of the happenings,
and the more light is releasedinto and onto your planet,
there's a critical massplace that will get crossed,
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to the point where it wouldbe undeniable that you were
able to look out and see.
Experiences being createdborn of brighter light because
of the numbers of beings whoare human on your planet are
allowing it to flow througheach of them as individuals.
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But it still comes backto acceptance, both
personally and lookingout into the world.
Acceptance that things arehappening perfectly and that
each one is perfectly ontheir own individual journey.
It really is about acceptance.
That was a perfectword to use.
Rod Bland (28:32):
Abraham, I've read many of your books
and you've often emphasizethe power of focusing
on what you want ratherthan what you don't want.
Um, yet we're also, thisis a conversation I often
have with my wife is thatwe're, we're advised to
allow and fully feel ourgenuine emotions as well.
So how can we honor ourfeelings without sort of
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amplifying the negative thingsthrough our attention to them?
Benny Ferguson (28:59):
hmm.
Well, you honor them
by loving yourself anyway.
Yes, I feel this way,
but I'm not standingin judgment of myself.
I'm not calling myselfgood, bad, right,
wrong, or negative.
I'm just seeing it.
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I see that I feel this way.
And I love myself regardless.
Now the question is,what is that doing?
What effect is that having?
The effect that that's havingis that the idea within you
that is the catalyst of that,what you might call a low
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vibrational idea, that isthe catalyst of the feeling.
When you love yourself in themidst of feeling that idea
being expressed, The vibrationof the love, the vibration of
the acceptance, the vibrationof being excited, being able
to watch the movement withinthe mind and body and not
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be moved by it, not be movedinto action by it, that energy
is affecting theidea within you,
right?
It's disrupting the idea.
And the more often you'reable to do that, you're
actually dissolving thoselow vibrational ideas that
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are causing these typesof feelings to present
themselves inside of you.
But it's about getting tothe place where you're able
to, number one, witness thoseexpressions within your body.
and being strong enoughnot to be affected or moved
by them, but to love them.
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Loving yourself inthe midst of it.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland (30:51):
Yes, that does.
That's, that's very useful.
Benny Ferguson (30:54):
Awesome.
Rod Bland (30:55):
So the, the, the path of spiritual growth,
for want of a better word,it can be a bit lonely at
times and, um, it's, or it'smisunderstood by other people.
And this is true for me.
So what advice would youoffer to someone who's
feeling isolated or perhapsa little bit discouraged in
their process of awakening?
Benny Ferguson: Continue the path. (31:25):
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Continue the path.
Uh, intend, intend to comein contact with like minded
people because they're outthere feeling very similar.
Sometimes feeling stuck,not knowing what's next,
not knowing if they're doingthe right thing or not.
(31:46):
Right?
Not knowing what thenext process is, what
they should be doing.
Um, and yes, oftentimes atthis moment, individuals
who have become aware ofthe truth and are seeking
to be an expression oftheir truth are amongst
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individuals not on thatsame path, not in the same
position, which is perfectbecause as you grow, You are a
vibrational model forthose that you are around.
So it's perfect,
but you can look out, likewe said, on your social
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media and see that thereare others on the same path.
You can intend to comein contact with others
on the same path.
But we do understandthe, that feeling.
We do understand that feeling.
That feeling is something that
Benny has experiencedand gone through often.
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Often.
Even though he supportsindividuals who are on this.
path.
Intending to, if it'snecessary, if that's a
strong desire, but intendingto come in contact with
individuals so that you canhave similar like minded
conversations is one way.
But the truth is, as youmove down this path, the
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stronger you will get becausethe truth of you in source,
the truth of you in source,in the truth of you in source,
all exist,
and what you are becomingis a powerful individual
who is not only detachedfrom the happenings on your
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plane of existence, butis a source of light on
your plane of existence.
Rod Bland (33:47):
Hmm.
This question just popped intomy head, so it must be one
that a lot of people have.
What actually happensto us when we die?
Benny Ferguson (33:56):
Well, the first part of that is that
you never die, actually.
You just transition.
You make your transition.
And when you make yourtransition, you evaluate
that which you createdin your life experience.
If we just use this planeof experience, you evaluate
what was created andyou decide on the next.
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Is there something that youwant to continue to explore
on this plane of existence?
Or is there another planethat you desire to explore?
to go and createan experience.
It depends on that which youwere capable of creating in
your life and also where youare in your soul's evolution
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in the overall grand schemeof that which is You, but
there's no true death.
There's no death.
Consciousness does not die.
Consciousness exists.
Consciousness is eternal.
Therefore, you are.
Yes,
Rod Bland (34:56):
I've heard you mention that in our
natural state we've gotaccess to an abundance of
insights and guidance andI'm always looking for ways
to help, uh, tap into that.
So, um, what daily practicesor rituals would you
recommend for someone tohelp strengthen that ability
to tap into that intuition?
Benny Ferguson (35:13):
that is a matter of frequency.
Tapping into your,your abilities, your,
those abilities, thoseabilities that exist
for each of you is amatter of frequency.
What we don't, what, whatis misunderstood or not
known is that Truth isa matter of frequency.
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There are higher truthsthat open up to you based
on your frequency, based onyour vibrational expression,
and therefore, and thisis the evolution, this is
the growth that happens.
If you think about the
spiritual teacher, someonein your history that, that
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made it into a book, right,was written about, or
something of that nature,the play and practice, the
meditations, all these thingsthat they did for many,
many years, the releasing
that they played with and thatthey practiced that was a part
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of their growth and expansion.
was about theirvibration raising.
Which is the samething for you.
As you go down this pathof growth and expansion,
as you take in thismaterial, and as you release
resistance organically,your vibration rises.
And when you hold a higherfrequency, and it can be a
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fraction of a, if we use yourhigher lower idea, it can be
a fraction of an elevation,of elevating in frequency from
where you are now normally.
That next level of frequencyexpression held consistently
will open you up to ideasborn of that frequency,
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which in turn opens youup to new and greater
truths and understandings,perception of life,
interpretation of life events.
This is what grows and expandsyou into being able to accept
that which is happeningaround you on your planet.
It's a matter of frequency.
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It's a matter of vibration.
Does that make sense?
Rod Bland (37:33):
it does.
So is it necessary for us tobe really good meditators or
is there some Is it just amatter of if our frequency is
raised, that helps us like,you know, say through music
or just being in nature is,is, is that all we need to do?
Benny Ferguson (37:48):
There you go.
There's the, the idea is tounderstand what the purpose
of meditation is, right?
The purpose of meditation.
If you think about someonesitting still, being still
in a quiet space wherethey're doing, they're
shutting off their senses.
Right?
If you turn down the volumeon things so that you don't
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have any input coming intoyour hearing, you have your
eyes closed so you don'thave anything coming into
your, your seeing, you're noteating or tasting anything.
So all of those thingsare shut down and
you're being still.
And if you're doing ameditation where you're
just focusing on yourbreath, what are you doing?
You're giving your mindsomething to focus on
because you can't quietthe mind, but you can give
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it something to focus on,which stops all the chatter.
And when all the chatterstops and your mind is not
jumping to and fro, normallyon ideas of low vibration,
normally considering thingsthat you do not want, well,
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naturally, in that space,your vibration lives.
This is the purpose ofmeditation, giving the
mind something to focuson so that you can begin
to become aware of what itfeels like within the body.
to not to be not to beweighted by all of those
low vibrational ideas thatyou're a person normally
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considers throughout the day.
All the worries, all thedoubts, all the fears
that are ignited withinbased on observing the
outside experienceshappening outside of them.
That's the purposeof meditation.
But when you understandthat It's all about
raising your frequency.
That's at the core.
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That's what's happeningwhen you give the mind
something to focus on.
Then you can shift.
Yes, you can still use it asa tool, but then you can shift
to exactly what you said.
Music is a perfect way,but actually it's anything
that lifts your spirits.
Anything that liftsyour, when we say spirit,
we're talking about yourvibration, your frequency.
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It can be the rememberingof a beautiful experience.
It can be a favorite song.
It can be the ideaof the rainbow.
Anything that offersa pure expression.
If you can situate yourselfin that feeling place and
lift even, like we said,even a fraction of an
amount above your normalwalking around state and
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hold it consistently.
the point.
And then understand why thatmatters and what you're doing.
You're conditioning your body.
You're conditioningyour body to a higher
vibrational state of whichyour mind aligns itself.
Your brain begins tophysically align itself
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with this new vibrationalstate, but you have to
be consistent with it.
You have to beconsistent with it.
Consistency is the key in thispractice, in these processes.
Consistency is the key.
This is what all ofyour, what you would
call a spiritual master.
This is what they did.
They were consistent.
(41:00):
Oftentimes they wentto locations to where
they weren't bothered.
But each of you listeningto this information, if you
are living your life as anormal being who is human,
and you're about to play inpractice of being consistent,
You're going to be muchstronger more quickly than
those spiritual teachers thatyou read about because many
(41:23):
of them went to locations,isolated locations, to
get to the place that theywere and they weren't being
bombarded through theirsenses by everyday life, work,
family, marriage, children,strangers, neighbors,
all of these things.
You are on this play aboutthis play and practice
while living your life.
(41:45):
So you're getting stronger,faster, but it's still
about consistency.
It's still about consistency.
Rod Bland (41:55):
Abraham, before we wrap up, I'm, I'm curious
if you have any specificinsights or guidance for me
as the host of this podcast.
So what wisdom wouldyou offer me in my role
as an interviewer and,you know, someone who's
trying to facilitatethese conversations?
Thanks.
Benny Ferguson (42:10):
You have done it some to this
point, we believe, uh,but be intuitive about it.
Allow your inner being tospeak to you as you are
speaking to individualsand asking questions.
The questions that, and youhave done it here, but look
(42:31):
for those deep questions toask, that the answers will
resonate and cut deeply intoyour viewers, and truly, and
really, even more so than now,open them up to where they are
still simmering on the insidethe next day, three days.
(42:55):
A week later, they're stillsimmering from that which
was offered based on thequestions that you answered.
For you are connectedto your viewers, right?
You are connectedto your listeners.
So the more intuitiveyou are in asking your
questions, The more
(43:17):
effective the answerswill be because they will
cut deeply, as deep asyou can pull and allow
the question to come.
Does that make sense?
Mm hmm, mm
Rod Bland (43:32):
Yeah, it does.
So, I, I have one,one final one.
It's, it's to do with thingsthat you're curious about and,
um, Reconciling things thatyou're following the, sort of
following the lead of thingsthat you're curious about and
things that are, you know, Iguess seen to be of service.
(43:55):
And I, I feel like sometimesjust simply following
what you're curiousabout is somewhat self
serving in a world wherewe need people to be more
of a service to others.
So how do you reconcilethose two things?
What have you, what wisdomhave you got for us there?
Benny Ferguson (44:13):
Yeah, that's a powerful question.
That's a powerfulquestion, and the answer
may be a little uneasyfor many, but you have
to understand that Thisis a selfish journey.
This is a selfish journey.
Each of you listening, eachof you as individuals, you
(44:36):
are the center of your verse.
And the truth is there'snothing that you have to
do, even though you're beinginspired from the inside out.
But there's nothingthat you have to do.
You owe nothing.
You're not responsiblefor anything, truly,
even though the mind ofhumanity says, When you're
a husband, you should ABC.
(44:57):
When you're a parent,you should ABC.
But actually, it's not true.
There's no shoulds.
There's no shoulds.
It is selfie.
And what you don't understandis that if you selfishly
follow that which you areinspired to, selfishly
follow those things thatyou just mentioned, that
you're curious about,
(45:19):
you don't know whatknowledge, wisdom, next
steps, reveal themselvesas you follow those ideas.
That may help you be selfie.
A better husband, if that'swhat you're intending.
Help you be a betterparent, if that's
what you're intending.
Gems are there if you followyour selfish expressions,
(45:44):
your selfish curiosity.
For that's why you're here.
When you make your transition,nobody else is there.
It's only you.
This is a huge misconception,because humanity has been
conditioned to believethat this spiritual
journey is about beingall of these things to
(46:07):
others, when the truth is,
your ability to be ofthe highest effect and
influence to othersis as a result of you.
of your personal having grownpersonally as an individual,
and you grow personally asan individually by following
(46:30):
that which bubbles up insideof you, and that which
bubbles up inside of youactually is only for you.
You see how that's kindof, there's like an inverse
thing going on there?
Rod Bland (46:44):
Hmm.
Benny Ferguson (46:44):
The more selfish you are about
following that which you areexcited about, Especially
if you're on this path,
the stronger and the brighterof a light you are, number
one, a model for all of thoseyou come in contact with.
But then when you start addingin that idea of acceptance,
(47:06):
you're capable of being
and getting closer andcloser to being a full, free
expression of source for thoseclosest to you and for those
that you come in contact with.
seeking your support.
It's a very interestingthing, but that perspective,
(47:27):
the interpretation,the understanding
opens up to you again.
It's tied to the frequency.
It's tough.
It's tied to the frequencythat you're offering,
that you're breathing,that you're interacting
in on a consistent level.
The understanding ofall of these things.
is in the frequencythat you're offering.
(47:48):
So, if we were to suggestanything, it would be to reach
for the highest frequencythat you can, as often as
you can, and try to hold it.
Again, conditioning the mindand body to that frequency,
and opening yourself up tothe truths of that frequency.
(48:08):
And if you can do that, ifyou play with that and stay
with that, everything thatyou desire to understand
will make its way into you.
And when it starts to make itsway into you, you will know.
And you'll also know thatyou're doing the right things
as far as your personalgrowth and expansion.
(48:29):
You'll know that you'reon the right path and
moving in the right
Rod Bland (48:34):
Thank you.
Is there anything that, uh,you'd like to get towards
in this conversation?
Anything you'd liketo leave people with?
Anything additionalthat you'd want to say
that isn't necessarily aquestion I've already asked?
Benny Ferguson: Open yourself up. (48:46):
undefined
Ask yourself questions.
Based on where you are,ask yourself questions.
Ask yourself what's next.
Ask yourself whoyou are truly.
What you are capable of.
Ask yourself those,those deep questions.
And don't beashamed to ask them.
(49:07):
Humanity has been conditionedthrough its religion that
you have to be human.
Careful about what you ask.
That hierarchy thing, thatauthority hierarchy thing
that has been sewn intohumanity's spiritual growth
that completely throws it off.
The truth is thatyou're talking to you.
(49:29):
When you ask the question, soit doesn't matter how angry
you are, it doesn't matterhow frustrated you are, it
doesn't matter how excitedyou are, just understand
that you're talking to you.
So whatever the questionthat you have, or even if
you don't know what questionsto ask, ask what questions
you need to be asking.
(49:50):
That will help you movedown the path of growth
and expansion for you andexpect the answer, right?
Expect the answer becauseyou're talking to you and
the minute you start askingthe question, the minute
you will start pulling theinformation to you that is
perfect for you in the moment.
That is what we think issomething that needs to be
(50:14):
understood, needs to be knownfor, for those listening.
Rod Bland (50:18):
Abraham, it's been a great privilege for
me to be able to talk to you.
Um, uh, there'sprobably more for Benny.
Uh, people are going towant to ask questions.
Benny, could you let usknow, you know, briefly what
you've got going on as faras how people can get in
touch with you, if there'sany particular services
that you offer people?
Benny Ferguson (50:34):
Yeah, well, we're growing a global
community, which is exciting.
I've worked with people andhave people in our community
now all over the world.
I have people inyour, in your country.
Um, but yeah, you can find usat, well, we have, first of
all, to get people started.
We have a few free things,uh, free trainings.
One is, uh, atIamthediscourse.
(50:57):
com.
That's a, um, free trainingthat kind of discusses
who you are, and whatyou're capable of and why
you don't know it yet.
Uh, there's another freetraining that at www.
accelerated evolution.
com where we talk aboutthe three attention shifts
(51:17):
that you have to make inorder to know that you're
working at your foundationand it gets into the whys of
what we were talking about.
The purpose of meditation,the purpose of reaching
for a higher frequency.
We go over those things.
Again, there's so manydifferent directions a person
can go, uh, on this path.
(51:38):
But if you want to know howto make sure that you're
doing the right things andworking at your foundation
to really expand yourselfas an individual, we go over
those three attention shifts.
Uh, you can find us onYouTube, uh, at Consciousness
Ascending, hyphen, Benny R.
Ferguson, JR.
Uh, we're always puttingnew material up there.
(52:01):
Uh, but if you connectwith us through any of
those venues, then You willget the information about
what else is going on.
We do private sessions.
We have, uh, monthlyworkshops, and we have
a private communitythat's growing, uh, where
we offer, like, closecontact interaction.
conversation, uh, weekly Q andA's for people who are really
(52:26):
about the play and practiceof releasing the resistance
that they have in their lifeand expanding and wanting
to accelerate that process.
Rod Bland (52:35):
All right.
Well, we'll put linksto all of that in the
show notes, Benny.
Uh, thank you so muchfor being my bestie.
Let me try that again.
Thank you so much forbeing my guest today.
It's been a greatpleasure to talk to you.
Benny Ferguson (52:48):
Yeah, this has been awesome.
We really appreciate it beingable to be of support and we
look forward to the next time.
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