Have you ever considered that the key to overcoming your deepest issues might lie within your own subconscious? Sarah Jane Smith, an adept quantum healing hypnotherapist, joins us for an enlightening session where we unpack the transformative effects of Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy. As we journey with Sarah, she shares her inspiring path following the footsteps of Dolores Cannon, and how she guides individuals to confront their past traumas and emotional scars to pave a path for profound healing.
Throughout our conversation, we traverse the landscape of the mind, examining the role of the superconscious in personal well-being. Sarah imparts the staggering notion that we hold the capacity to manifest and dissolve our own ailments. With her captivating stories, including the remarkable healing of a former police officer, Sarah illustrates the phenomenal capacity of hypnotherapy to address the core of our issues, enveloping us in the potential for instantaneous recovery and unlocking insights from past lives or ancestral experiences.
Wrapping up our talk, Sarah leaves us with a glimpse into the transformative journeys of her diverse clientele, from surgeons to police officers, all finding solace and revelations within their sessions. We also tackle the limitations of conventional medicine and the awe-inspiring nature of spiritual awakenings. Join us for this episode, where curiosity meets the cutting edge of healing, and embrace the stories of empowerment that challenge the confines of traditional medicine.
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Dr. Michele Burklund (00:05):
Welcome to the podcast Medicine Untold and
come with me on a journey tothe unexplored side of medicine,
where we speak with rebeldoctors, radical herbalists,
unorthodox healers and patientswho have healed themselves.
Explore the intersectionbetween science and spirituality
and discover the power withinyou.
(00:26):
I'm your host, dr MichelleBirkeland, licensed naturopathic
doctor, botanical alchemist andpracticing physician.
Hi everyone, welcome today.
Today we have Sarah Jane Smithwith us, a hypnotherapist, and
I'm going to read a little bitabout her background, too,
(00:48):
before we get started.
So Sarah Jane Smith is aquantum healing hypnotherapist,
a psychic and a medium that cantap into the past lives of her
clients.
Sarah is the founder of QuantumHypno, located in UK, and does
online sessions around the world.
She specializes in quantumhealing, hypnosis technique and
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beyond quantum healing.
Sarah is an in-demandhypnotherapist with celebrities
and millionaires from around theworld.
Her latest film, escape theMatrix, has been officially
selected by the Roma and TokyoShort Film Festivals.
So welcome, sarah.
Thank you so much for joiningus.
(01:33):
Yeah.
Sarah Jane Smith (01:35):
Yeah, well, you know, when you, when you
talk about, I am a quantumhealing hypnosis, and you know,
or hypnotherapist, I was goingto say hypnosis expert, or
hypnotherapist, it's quite amouthful, and you know, or
hypnotherapist, I was going tosay hypnosis expert, or
hypnotherapy, it's quite amouthful.
And that's why we sure we weretrying to shorten and shorten
and shorten it, but still getthe you know the um, the idea in
.
So we, we just devised quantumhypno, so I founded quantum
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hypno because it's short andit's to the point.
You know, if that, if thatmakes sense yeah, yeah, that's.
Dr. Michele Burklund (02:01):
That's perfect.
It is a mouthful, but it'simpressive too.
I mean, it captivateseverything, and kind of what you
do with the quantum.
Sarah Jane Smith (02:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, as soon as I
say to people, you know, whenyou're at parties or you're
having conversations, when theysay what do you do?
And I say, oh, here we go, I'ma hypnotherapist, wow.
And everybody's, everybody's sointerested, interested, they
say the usual things like wouldyou make me into a chicken or
could you?
Could you, you know, make mehand over my money?
(02:29):
And it's, it's all of these.
You know belief systems, or canyou, you know?
Do you do mk ultra?
Do you do mind control?
And actually it's so simple,you know, um, we work with.
Let me just begin.
I started.
I found Dolores Cannon aboutsix years ago Now.
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I was following I'm an athlete,I'm a swimmer and a runner and
I still love running, you knowand I was following an African
American Navy SEAL called DavidGoggins.
So I remember one day lookingthem up on YouTube and typing in
David Goggins, and it startedsaying Dolores Cannon.
And I said no, david Goggins.
(03:11):
And it said again do you meanDolores Cannon?
And the third time I thoughtthis is ridiculous.
So I started watching thisvideo of this wonderful woman,
dolores Cannon, and immediatelyI said that's it, that's it.
I know what I'm going to do forthe rest of my life because it
was the way she described herjob and it was.
She truly cared about people.
(03:34):
I don't know whether you'veever seen a video of her work,
but it was mind blowing.
And I think at the time also,when I discovered Dolores Cannon
, I was getting very frustrated.
I knew I couldn't find theanswers on BBC or even, you know
, discovery Channel.
I wanted to know the truth.
Look who built the pyramids.
Who was it?
I'm not.
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It's not good enough anymore.
I wanted more and more and moreanswers and I feel like I
didn't find this job, or I callit a calling.
It found me.
So I remember thinking you knowthis, this is me, this this is
me because I want to really helpclients.
(04:14):
And I remember her talkingabout the fact she talks about
the super conscious, which sheshortened to the SC, because
everything in life is simple,michelle, the answers are always
simple.
She called it the SC, or theclients called it the higher
self, or the oversoul, or theuniversal energy, and Delores
started describing this energy,that under hypnosis.
(04:36):
And I'll tell you a little bitabout how I work with people.
It's very simple, how it comesthrough the client and it shows
you where the client's issuesbegan, and it also gives them
the answers to all the lifequestions that they've ever
wanted.
You know, I asked them to comewith five questions about their
life and five questions abouttheir body, and it also gives
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them instant healing.
Instant healing and I rememberthinking this is amazing.
I want to try this for myself.
So I qualified, I did the firstlevel of quantum healing,
hypnosis and we had to advertisein the public for free, so I
had all sorts of peopleanswering my ads and they came
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to my home and I remember thisone particular man I called Dave
.
I've written a book about this,so Dave was a former police
officer and he'd been in head-oncollisions, accidents,
everything, and he said that thesurgeons had they'd done some
work on his spine and hecouldn't actually move because
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they did great work, but hecouldn't move the head, neck or
anything like that anymore andhe was actually getting um, he
was working as a mechanic andthe fingers and the hands just
didn't didn't work anymore asthey should do and I thought
that's quite strange.
So they were given all thissort of diagnosis by the medical
crowd and I always ask a lot ofquestions, open questions, and
(06:04):
he also said to me now I need tohave keyhole surgery done on my
knee because there's nocartilage.
And he said don't touch thatbecause nobody can ever fix that
.
And I remember sitting theregoing oh, I love these
challenges when people say thatcan't be done.
And I'm thinking there's alwaysa way.
There's always, never, ever saynothing's impossible, because
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it's like Roger Bannister.
He ran the four minute mile, Ithink 1952 in Helsinki, and
everybody said that can't bedone until somebody does it.
And then everybody's doing it.
So I have this man, dave, up inmy bedroom and he, dave, started
shaking, the body startedshaking and I said is he okay?
And this is what you and I weretalking about before.
(06:47):
How do you know who and whatyou're talking to?
And the super conscious iscoming through, because he
started talking about himself inthe third person and they
started I call them they.
They started saying to mebecause I went to sort of say
look, he's my patient, is he, ishe okay?
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Is he?
Is he could have been having afit.
He was shaking, so, lookingafter him, they told me sit back
down, he's fine.
It was a different voice talkingthrough this man.
It was very authoritative, veryfirm, but protective of him as
well.
And I said what?
What's going on?
And I said he's been told thathis spine has been fused
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together, he's broken all thesevertebrae.
And I said is that true?
And the voice came back throughthis man saying no, it isn't
true.
It was the synapses, or theneurons in the brain.
They weren't actually passingdown through the arms and the
legs and the body anymore,weren't actually passing down
through the arms and the legsand the body anymore.
So basically, that was why hewas having a stiffness in his
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hands and I said what are youdoing?
I asked a lot of questions andthey said we're rewiring the
body starting in the brain.
we're rewiring the body and hestarted becoming an expert on
brain and synapses and all ofthis thing, the messages going
all the way down to his feet.
And then I said, well, you know, and I thought I can't believe
what I'm seeing.
The world needs to know aboutthis.
(08:10):
And then I said, well, you knowhis right knee could.
Yes, yes, that's fine.
And I said what are you doing?
And they said, well, we'reregrowing the cartilage in his
knee.
10 minutes later, 10, 15minutes later, they said he's
fine, he'll be fine.
And he woke up and he said Ican't believe what's happened.
I can't believe what you'vejust done.
I said I didn't do anything.
(08:30):
I'm the facilitator, I justasked questions.
And he said to me, emailed meabout six months later.
He keeps in touch with meregularly.
He said the knee's perfect,he's never needed surgery.
And he said the hands,everything, the body is working
perfectly.
And I remember Michelle.
The point is, I rememberthinking, like I've just said,
the world needs to know aboutthis.
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I can't keep this a secretbecause you should never be sick
.
This is another question youand I were discussing beforehand
.
The body should never be sick.
However, how do your thoughtscreate illness in the body?
Okay, we create illness.
And the great thing is, wecreate disease and we create
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illness because the body isgiving you literal messages.
It's telling you you know, theshoulders or the back is sore.
Well, you've got the weight ofthe world on your shoulders.
If somebody's got a problemwith their spine, I say do you
have enough?
Have enough support?
And they say I don't feelsupported at all.
I had a lady last night.
She said I'm nearsighted, I Ican't see far distances.
(09:34):
And I said are you afraid ofthe future, what you're going to
see?
And she said well, yeah, okay,we're creating all of these
subconsciously.
And what dolores cannon used tosay is if you've created those
disease, common sense will tellyou you can uncreate them too.
You can heal yourself.
Now, what quantum healinghypnosis is?
(09:54):
You know, dolores actuallyshe's the one that actually
started bringing this to thealternative world, but also Carl
Jung.
He said he found the superconscious talking through people
, working through them as well.
Now, carl Jung was, just as faras I'm aware, exploring the
(10:15):
mind, and what is the connectionand you know what happened was
he started coming through thisvery distinct voice it always
sounds the same when they talkthrough the clients and he said
he was so freaked out because hedidn't know what it was and he
wasn't expecting it that henever did hypnosis again because
he was scared.
Now, because of Dolores Cannon'sexplanations and her wonderful
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training, she explains correctlythat this energy is a joy to
work with.
Even I feel it as well.
I listen to people talkingabout their trauma and their
lives for one, two, three, fourcould be five hours, michelle,
because we need to get to knoweach other and establish a
rapport.
So I listen to these peopletalking for hours about their
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lives and going througheverything that happened, and
this helps me to understand,probably, where they're going to
go Now.
I never know.
I don't actually take people.
Let's go to your childhood,let's go.
I don't know where to take them, but the force that we're
working with, the higher self,the superconscious.
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It knows more about you thanyou know about yourself.
It will take you to the mostrelevant place that the issue
began, because we treat thecause of the issue.
We don't just lie down and takeeverything away, even if you
want to.
I want to know why thishappened to you, because I'm
learning as well, and so whathappens is it will take you to
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your childhood, or it will takeyou to a past life.
It will take you to one or twoor three past lives.
Now, those past lives, I willalways ask how are they relative
to her life or his life today?
They won't show you somethinglike, oh well, she was living in
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the 1800s in London.
Well, what is that going to dowith her?
Now?
Nothing.
It will always give youconnection to those past lives
and the current life that you'reliving now.
And if people don't believe inpast lives, that's fine.
They're telling you a storyabout how those lives you know.
Somebody says I don't want to bea leader, I don't want to talk
because I'm not capable, I can'tdo it.
They'll say well, you did itbefore.
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You were leading people in thiscompletely different life, in
this different era, showing youyou've already done it.
And people will say I can'tstart a business?
Well, they'll show you a lifewhere you did and you were very
successful.
You've done all this before andwe bring those gifts and
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abilities into this life too.
So they're showing you pastlives.
But also people say how do youknow what's real?
Okay, let me give you anexample of how I know the past
lives are real.
I believe they are, becausewhen somebody is going into a
man or a woman in this othertime, this other time and place,
they identify completely withthat character.
They become that person.
And when something emotionalhappens maybe there's a death of
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a loved one or something sojoyous and beautiful happening
they don't just cry, they sobfrom their soul.
This isn't like you know oh,you know, I lost a baby and
there's no reaction.
No, they're sobbing from theirsoul.
They're crying, and crying, andcrying, and I think this is
also that's proof that you knowsomething is happening with
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these people.
Everybody cries, everybody hasthis overwhelming amount of
emotion and also I wonder ifthey're also releasing those
people from those lives.
They're releasing their traumatoo.
I've also found that people arereleasing their ancestral
trauma.
I'll give you an example.
(13:55):
Somebody might have said a lotof them say my mother treated me
like this and my father treatedme like that.
And I say if they have children, how do you treat your children
?
And they say well, I wouldnever treat them the way I was
treated.
And they're learning why.
Because they know how painfulit is if they say my mother was
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a narcissist, my father wascontrolling.
Well, you don't do that toother people now, because you
know you don't want to putpeople through that again.
So we're actually healingancestral trauma.
And I say to people would you beopen also to whether they're
alive or dead, it doesn't matter.
Would you be open to thepossibility of forgiving?
Send your mother forgiveness orwhoever it is, because you know
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what.
That was the best they could do.
We send them love andforgiveness and I teach them how
to do that and I say to themyou don't need to say to their
face I don't recommend doingthat at all, michelle, I forgive
you.
I don't think that will go downwell with a lot of people.
You know you do it through yourmind.
You say a few things to themthrough your mind and also, if
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somebody has passed away andthey're on the spirit side, we
send them forgiveness too.
And then we find that we areyou're putting down the backpack
and the baggage and everything.
And also people in the sessions.
I find they have guilt.
They feel a lot of guilt orremorse or sadness.
We find out where they'restoring that in the body and why
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.
And I say to them let it go,let it go, no matter.
And they say but she did thisto me.
And men say she took mychildren and my money.
And I say, but she did this tome.
And men say she took mychildren and my money.
And I say, but she's going to,you're going to kill yourself,
you're going to have a heartattack or you're going to create
something.
Let it go.
And so we do.
We treat everybody with loveand forgiveness, not sort of
saying, oh my gosh, yourex-husband is, it sounds like a
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terrible man.
That's not going to work, it'snot going to help.
And we find out.
I say to people do you feel likeyou made a contract on the
spirit side with your mother oryour ex-husband or whatever?
And there's always a pause andthey always answer yes, I did
99% of the time.
Okay, why did you make acontract?
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What did you make a contract tolearn?
And they'll say, well, he'steaching me patience and I tried
to teach him spirituality orsomething like that.
Did it work?
And they'll usually say, as anempath the people I get, they're
highly sensitive people,they're empaths They'll say,
yeah, it worked for me, but notfor him.
And I say that's his karma, letit go.
Let it go.
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You're here to offer yourteaching and your help.
And if they don't want it,that's fine, that's fine, let it
go.
And I find that the majority ofpeople I get they're like me.
They say they were very awarefrom an early age.
They always say to me like me,I never fit in.
I don't know about you,michelle, I never fit into this
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place.
They try, try, even.
They move country, they goplaces and they still don't fit
in.
And Dolores wrote a book calledthe Three Waves of Volunteers.
I've just written a new booknow called the New Wave of
Volunteers, because underhypnosis, we find out that these
people have volunteered to comehere to help.
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Now, what they have in commonis, like I just said, they never
fit in.
They're highly sensitive people, probably like yourself, like
me too.
They say we have a voraciousappetite for knowledge and
learning.
You know, the place couldalmost be on fire and you'll say
one more page, one more page,I'm onto something now.
And we just never stop.
And also we are watchers andobserver.
(17:27):
We love people watching, we'relearning all the time.
And I find that under hypnosis,these people have said oh, what
was I thinking?
I volunteered to come here.
I volunteered to come here andhelp, because Dolores wrote
after 1945, the earth was introuble, world War II had
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finished and also we were usingatomic power for all the wrong
reasons.
And up there somewhere theymust've been looking down at us
going.
These kids are, they're goingto blow themselves up.
You know, I don't know what'sgoing on, but we need help.
There is like a little bit likeStar Trek.
There is a prime directive ofnon-interference.
Now, who are they?
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I'm talking about being ETswhether you believe in them or
not, it doesn't matter.
Beings of consciousness, beingsof light, everything.
Now they heard the call, evenpeople like us.
We would have heard the calland we would have said, yes,
we'll volunteer to come here andhelp.
But they say on the spirit side, michelle, you have your little
plans wrapped up in your littlebox with your little ribbon and
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you say I'm going to do thisand I'm going to change the
world.
And I say I will too.
We high five each other,probably, and we're born.
The problem is we don'tremember why we've come here.
And if we did remember, itprobably wouldn't be a test.
You know, they say life is aschool, this earth is a school
of learning, and we're goingthrough all these tests.
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But anyway, they say thatpeople like all of us, probably
we heard the call.
Now people say where was I whenI heard the call?
Everybody originates fromsource, from.
God from source, whatever youwant to call it.
We all come from there.
But my question is I askdifferent questions when were we
, where was I when I heard thecall?
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And people say they had no body, they were being a
consciousness, they were onanother planet.
They say I'm blue, I'm green,I'm an ET.
And they say I heard the call.
And I say why did you come?
And they say because we lovethe humans, we love this planet
and we came here to help.
And I found under hypnosis.
I've had between 1500 and 1600people, michelle.
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They all say the same thing.
They say I came here tovolunteer to help people.
Now, everybody's come here withdifferent experiences.
Like I already said, they don'tfit in.
They're highly sensitive people, but we all have a different
point of attention.
You have your point ofattention, your experiences, you
have your own gifts andabilities and you're helping
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people with your work and justbeing you.
Sometimes people say what do Ineed to do to change the world?
And the answer is just beyourself.
It's your energy, it'sbeautiful and you will affect
everybody everywhere you go.
But then other people they say,well, you need to do, and they
go.
I don't want to do publicspeaking a bit like me.
You need to go on stage, youneed to do public speaking, you
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need to do interviews, you needto write books, and so we're all
told they're told in thesession this is what you're
going to need to do.
And so why do people come to me?
You know, we were talking aboutthis earlier.
They're at a junction orcrossroads in their life and
they're thinking do I go thisway, do I go that way?
Where do I go?
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And the majority of people, thenumber one question I'm asked
is why am I here?
Why did I come here?
You know this place, whereverwe've come from or volunteered
to come from, this is a heavy,heavy place for us.
It's a heavy planet.
We don't understand the clientsI get.
They don't understand war,hatred, screaming, arguing and
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violence.
We never get used to it ashighly sensitive people, and so
we're here to do anything we canto help people.
And you know why are theanswers coming now?
All of the answers are comingout in the session now about who
we are and what we're doing.
I think it's the right time.
I think this is, this is Idon't know what you think.
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It's an amazing time to bealive.
And there's been so much fear.
There's been so much fear.
Is there going to be a oneworld government?
I ask for advice for theclients.
I say can you give Michelle alittle bit of advice, last
minute advice?
And they say, yeah, be yourself, do what you're you know, speak
your mind, speak your truth.
And I say, do you have anyadvice for humanity?
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And they say there's not goingto be a one world government.
This isn't going to happen.
Their plan isn't going to win,but you need to fight back even
harder than ever.
We know we're going to winbecause we're more powerful, but
we also need.
I explain it like this theanswers are very simple, all the
answers in the session.
They're very simple, yet genius.
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And I say to people Michelle,look, you and I could sit here
for 10 years and psychoanalyzeeach other, you know, for all of
this amount of time, but wewon't come up with the answers
that they tell us in the session, because the answers are always
simple.
They're staring you in the face, but they're also genius as
well, and that's why I find wedo the session.
(22:21):
That's the great thing about it, because you get the answers
like that and I always say topeople I record all of the
hypnosis part.
I don't record anything they saybefore the session.
That's always private andconfidential and it's a bit like
Dolores said.
She said it's a bit like yourmother confessor, and they're
coming to you and they're sayingto me maybe I killed somebody,
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maybe I did this, I did that,and they're telling me stuff
that they've never, ever toldanybody before, because they
need to say things out loud,they need to, people need to
hear themselves talking, andthey're unraveling things as
they go and realizing, you know,that the answers were always
inside them.
Anyway, we have all the answers.
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Anyway, you know that we'renever supposed to be ill, but
it's remembering why, why are wehere and who we truly are.
Because I find, once you knowwho you are, everything else
starts falling into place, ifthat makes sense right, yeah, a
hundred percent.
Dr. Michele Burklund (23:23):
And and what?
What I see a lot with patientsis, let's say, they had, like, a
childhood trauma, or they havethis belief system about
themselves or it could be, youknow, related to their mother or
their grandfather or somethinglike that and they see it, but
they still can't release it,right?
Or they can go to therapy andtalk about it, but it's still in
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their subconscious, it's intheir belief system.
And the biggest question is,right, how can they release it
from their body and from theirmind long-term?
And that's where I thinkhypnosis is so powerful, right?
Because they can go into thatplace and they can finally
release it, rather than speakingabout it again and again and
seeing it, but taking that outand permanently removing it too,
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and that's where there aredifferences.
Sarah Jane Smith (24:12):
I totally agree with you, michelle, and I
don't know what you think aboutthe ego, the left brain.
Now, the majority of my peopleI get okay, because I say what
is your job?
And when they say doctor,lawyer, surgeon, the left brain,
okay, they're trained to beleft brain, not like you.
They don't ask questions likeyou do.
You're, you're, you'reabsolutely brilliant and I know
(24:32):
that you're very spiritual,you're brilliant at what you do.
But a lot of teachers, you know, I get military, sas, cia, you,
you name it.
Okay, they're trained to beleft brain.
And when I get SAS men, I'mlike we're going to have fun
with this guy because they'renot going to let go.
And I just say let go, you'rewasting time, there's nothing,
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you know, there's nothing tofear, but you can see them
clinging on to dear life.
Another question that youbrilliantly asked as well is why
do we use hypnosis?
Ok, that's simple.
Let me just make it quitesimple for people.
You're turning down the leftbrain during hypnosis.
Okay, that's simple.
Let me just make it quitesimple for people.
You're turning down the leftbrain during hypnosis.
It's not just lying down andtalking on a sofa with a
psychotherapist.
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No, we're turning down thechatter, that I call it the
matrix mind, and we're turningdown the left brain enough,
because we need the speech, weneed them.
So it's a talking therapy.
So we need them to talk andtalk and talk and continue
talking.
And because we keep themcontinuously talking, you're
putting yourself.
I say I don't put you intoanything, I don't hypnotize you.
(25:35):
You're doing it to yourself andthey're bringing themselves
down.
They're bringing because youasked a brilliant question about
theta as well.
They're bringing themselvesinto this state of theta.
What is theta?
It's very, very to describe.
It's the state that you go intobefore you fall asleep.
Most people aren't aware orcognizant that they're seeing
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the images and the pictures andthe symbols.
That's all it is before you gointo deep sleep, which is called
delta.
You also you're in theta againbefore you wake up and you
remember.
I remember the dream and I waskissing somebody and it was
great, and then it starts tojust disappear and then you
think I can't remember itanymore.
That's theta.
(26:17):
Theta is absolutely normal andyou're going into it every night
and every morning and peoplesay can I die under hypnosis?
And I say well, do you diebefore you wake up and before
you fall asleep?
No, clearly you don't.
It's safe.
Now it.
Also you're always in controlbecause I get all.
I call them affection, callthem the controllers, but you're
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always in control.
You can get up anytime you want.
You will be very awake andaware and conscious.
You know.
But I say to people why are youtrying to control the session?
If you went to a masseuse,would you say do it like this,
oh hell, I'll do it myself.
I say no, let go, relax.
And I say to people allow andsurrender, and it will happen.
(27:00):
And it's a great way for peoplethat like to control everything
to learn to just let go andjust have faith.
And there is always a force, auniversal force or an energy
looking after you and we.
They feel it in their body andI think one of the main things
of the session, one of the maingoals that we have, is for them
(27:20):
to feel how it is to connectwith their higher self or super
conscious.
They actually really feel veryconscious of that and it's great
because I say to them look,I'll help you in just one
session, in just one session.
You don't need to depend on meor anybody else anymore.
I'll always be here to answeryour emails.
(27:42):
If you need any help, I'll behere for you, but you don't need
another session.
You need just one session,because they're showing you,
they giving you all the answers,they're giving you everything
you need in that session.
That's why.
That's why they call peoplereiki masters or, in my case, a
quantum hypnosis master, becauseyou help them in just one
session, you know.
(28:03):
So if we were trying to foolpeople or make money whatever,
why would we say that you don'tneed anymore, you only need to
see me once?
And I say to people go over therecording over and over again,
because it has its ownelectromagnetic frequency, just
for you.
I had a man I'll give you acouple of examples as well.
I had a man that lives in Miamiand he said to me I have one
(28:26):
week left to live.
Why?
Because I don't want to liveanymore.
My life is so terrible, it'sawful and I'm just going to
drink myself to death.
And he said after one sessionhe never drank again.
He had the answers.
He said no, no, and he didn'ttell me.
But he said I also want to makecontact with ETs or with
something with a collectiveconsciousness.
(28:48):
Said I also want to makecontact with ETs or with
something with a collectiveconsciousness.
Now he said to me and I saw himunder hypnosis.
I said what are you doing now?
And his eyes and his eyelasheswere flickering like this at a
rate.
That is not humanly possible.
Michelle, you know this as well.
You've studied this.
It's not humanly possible to dovarious movements with the eyes
and flickering and the body andstuff.
And he said also he said heknew it was real because both of
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his parents are eye surgeons.
He said that isn't humanlypossible and so he was going to
drink himself to death.
And after that session he saidlife was just, he had all the
answers, he got on with them andhe said he believes.
He believes that he isconnected to something much
bigger than himself.
So he invited me over toFlorida to meet his wife and his
children and he said to me Iwas in the boardroom with them,
(29:33):
we were talking about marketingand stuff he's helping me with
at the moment.
And he said, um, I don't needanother session, I don't need it
ever again, don't need to comeback to you.
And I thought, well, that's myjob done if that makes sense.
Dr. Michele Burklund (29:49):
Yeah, no they.
I mean.
They always say like the bestdoctor has no patients, right
it's, it's the same, it's thesame thing when you really heal
people and you teach them to be,you know, well on their own and
you give them those tools andyou can clear it out.
I mean, that's that's the bestway.
Sarah Jane Smith (30:06):
Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, because, because we
want to move forward as ahumanity, we, we, we want to
move forward and we want to goto the next level, don't we, you
know?
I mean, I think theRockefellers, they, they were
sort of saying in the early1900s, is that right, michelle?
They were saying, oh, look,know, anything alternative is
(30:26):
their quacks Can't do homeopathyand you can't do Reiki.
You can, that's, you know, it'sonly medicine.
It's only, it's onlypharmaceutical medicine.
But I wonder, what have welearned in the last four years?
Ok, they're all.
There was a deadly virus and itwas going to kill everybody.
But what does a virus mean?
You know better than me,michelle.
(30:47):
It means a toxin or a poison.
The cell is, is poisoned, youknow.
But it's like.
You know, a friend of minewrote a really good book called
what really makes you ill, andthey busted all the virus myth
and they said, for example, if Iwas drunk and I came in and
hugged you, would I make youdrunk?
Of course not.
It's a bit like a virus.
(31:07):
I can't can't give you a virusor anything like that.
I don't know how you feel aboutthat, but in the last four
years how little we knew aboutviruses and the contagion myth
(31:31):
and everything you know but we.
But we learned that a lot ofthis is a lot of the.
You know how the doctors weretrained and the surgeons, and so
we need to open our minds againto understand that we are all
self healing you know Right, andI mean I think I think the
mindset during that time.
Dr. Michele Burklund (31:49):
you know the nocebo effect is so powerful
in that that, can you know, beexplained in double-blind,
placebo-controlled studies andeverything else the same way as
the placebo and that can affect30% of the outcome of a study.
So I mean there's so manyvariables that go in there.
But I think mindset throughoutthat whole time and how deeply
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it was fear based and you know,if a doctor says you're going to
die in three months, a lot ofpeople will, even if they don't
have the disease, which is, youknow, it's crazy.
So I think, yeah, there was.
There was a lot of things goingon there and mindset had a huge
, huge component during thattime.
Sarah Jane Smith (32:27):
They were using a fear campaign and it was
always on the bbc and cnn.
I said to people you know, youwon't have any fear, there won't
be a virus if you switch yourtv off.
Now I I was chatting to youbeforehand and I remember, in
the middle of lockdown, I wasjust doing the dishes and stuff.
I wasn't really working which Iwasn't really doing anything to
(32:48):
you know, which which I feelashamed of to help anything or
anybody, but I was just doingthe dishes and stuff.
I wasn't really working which Iwasn't really doing anything to
, you know, which which I feelashamed of to help anything or
anybody, but I was just doing myown thing.
I was looking after the kids.
We were going out, running andplaygrounds.
We were the only one in thevillage actually going out.
I saw two army helicopters overus.
They were probably thinkinglook those crazy people down
there.
We didn't do downs, we didn'tdo the face nappies, we didn't
do vaccines, nothing.
(33:09):
We just went on and lived ourlives.
But, um, I remember hearingthis little voice in my mind
saying contact David Icke,middle of lockdown, and I said
what will I say?
And there was no answer and Itook the laptop and I scrolled
down to the very end and it saidadvertise with us.
And I thought that's it.
But everybody said to me,michelle, everybody said you're
(33:30):
crazy, they're going to targetyou, we don't know if you're
going to be locked down, lockedup with your children, and
they're going to force vaccinateyou, but you're putting your
head above the parapet.
We didn't know.
And sometimes it's taking riskslike that because I wanted to
help people like you, and likeyou do is what you want to help
people too.
And I remember thinking I'm notdoing anything to help anybody.
(33:53):
So surely taking a risk likethat, possibly to my life or my
family, it's worth it, because Ineed to do something.
I was aware that people weresuffering mentally, suffering
physically, during theselockdowns and I said, no, I need
to reach out.
I just knew, and so I sort ofrisked everything my career, my
name, everything going on.
(34:13):
David Icke Best decision I evermade, because it only got me
more clients and more work.
And, like I said in thebeginning, michelle, I believe
these are all volunteers.
They're all here to help peopleand I've helped.
I hope I've helped between 15and 1600 people in the last few
years and they've given mefeedback, saying they're also
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affecting everybody, that theycome into contact too, and now
they all know why they're here.
They've got their purpose andeverything and they have no fear
.
Sure, they have challenges, butit's different challenges and
they're all.
It's like I they havechallenges, but it's different
challenges and they're all.
It's like I say to people it'slike they've got their car MOT
or their service.
They've got their body andtheir life MOT or service done.
They know exactly where they'regoing and what they're doing
(34:59):
and we're creating a network.
It's almost like we're buildinga big army, a spiritual army,
you know.
And the future I'm always toldthe future is absolutely
wonderful for us.
So we need to kick back evenharder.
Why not?
Dr. Michele Burklund (35:17):
Yeah, and I think that's such an important
thing too is to have everybodyhave that vision of the future.
And you know, and today too,how beautiful it is, no matter
what the situation, or duringall those crazy years too, like
how much and took advantage ofthat time a lot.
(35:43):
I always thought, like you know,if monks could go live in a
cave for years on end and takeadvantage of that.
I'm going to go and go innature and take advantage of it,
so I think everything canreally be beautiful.
And having people see that andand then find you during that
time too and and go deeper intothemselves and yeah, taking
(36:06):
advantage of that time, yeah, Ilearn I've learned so much they
don't just learn from me and Ilike to teach people.
Sarah Jane Smith (36:13):
I like to say that this is what we're going to
do and this is how it works andteach people you know, as we're
talking.
But I have to say, michelle, Ilearn a lot from the clients
myself too, because they allhave their unique individual
stories and they've had theirbattles and, you know, it's
almost like we sit and we laughtogether and we cry together and
(36:33):
it's amazing how much I'velearned.
You know, I've even had peoplethis was a mind-blowing story, I
need to tell you you.
I had a surgeon called Melanie,and she's a heart surgeon in
New York now, very left brain,but she was really trying to
embrace her spirituality and shesaid look, I did this job to
help people to truth.
She loves people.
(36:54):
And she said I want to do agreat job, but where do I go
from here, you know?
And anyway, I had her underhypnosis and she was crying and
crying.
She said this isn't real.
I'm just speaking to myself,because you feel like you're
making it all up.
There was a pause in the.
There was a couple of secondssilence, which you know it's all
(37:15):
right to have, just a fewseconds.
Then I keep them talking again.
But when I was transcribing thetape later on, I heard
something which I was notprepared for, because when
Melanie was saying I'm not, thisisn't true, this isn't, I'm
talking to myself.
It's not real.
A voice came on the tape and Istill have the voice, I can send
it to you and it said it waswhispering.
(37:36):
And it said it's okay, we'rehere for you, we'll help you,
you're not alone.
And I remember thinking what'sgoing on?
There's voices it's like youknow the voice phenomenon.
That was starting to happen inmy tapes as well and I recorded
and I'm thinking where is thiscoming from as well.
So it isn't just only the mindover matter, it's actual voices
(37:59):
coming on the tape saying no, no, no, we're here to help you,
you're not alone.
And I'm thinking what's goingon.
And this lady not only that.
She was told you know, becauseof your cycle you're going to
have to have a hysterectomy.
And I said I don't think youshould, but I'm not allowed to
say anything for legal reasons.
And she said to me she didn'thave her monthly cycle for 12
(38:24):
years.
She rang me and she said nineo'clock the next morning it came
back.
No hysterectomy needed.
So everything was on blocks.
There was one woman, anotherattorney.
She wanted to do themillionaire's mindset.
Now she was a practicingattorney, but she was also
selling artwork.
She was in the you know the artworld.
(38:45):
And she said for the last yearin the US she had a couple
saying you sold me this and I'mnot happy and we're going to sue
you.
So she said to me we didn'twork on that problem at all of
her being sued.
We worked on different things.
But they said she said I'mgoing to lose my home and I'm
going to lose everything andthen I'm going to lose my
(39:06):
marriage.
And she was catastrophizing,catastrophizing everything.
And basically what happened wasshe phoned me about nine
o'clock the next morning, she'llsay.
She said you never guess what.
They've dropped the caseagainst me.
They've dropped the case and Isaid why?
And she said we don't know, butfor no reason.
And we seem to be.
They seem to be unblockingenergetic blocks.
(39:26):
You know things, things thatare really affecting you for no
reason.
But sometimes I feel in thesession, when you let it go,
stuff starts happening.
And then she said to me notonly that, she left a review,
she said she made two veryimportant sales while she was
under, doing nothing, justfloating out in space enjoying
herself.
She was making money and it'slike how does that work?
(39:49):
I don't know.
But clearly they you know whatyou need and sometimes they're
saying that lesson is over,you've learned that lesson, that
you're going to be sued andyou're going to be on it.
You know, and you'recatastrophizing as, criticizing
everything and it's like um, andall of a sudden the blocks are
gone, you know.
So, yeah, right, yeah, likeamazing things.
(40:12):
That another man said to me.
He came and he said look, thedoctors say my heart is only
working at 20 percent.
So he was told he was in thesession.
Look, it doesn't have to be thehigher self healing you.
It could be any being ofconsciousness, being of light.
We don't mind who it is, aslong as they're being helped.
(40:32):
Some people have been on shipsand they're being helped by
reptilians and they're notliking that very much.
They're scared and I say itdoesn't matter, this is the
nearest person we're going toget their biological.
You know, they're amazing theirknowledge on biology.
Let them heal you.
Their body was healed.
And this other man that saidhis heart was only functioning
(40:52):
at 20 percent, he said he wasbeing healed by grays and ets
and I said let them do it, letthem do it.
And two months later he wentback to the surgeon and they
took a complete scan of theheart and they said it's
unbelievable, it's working at100 percent.
It must have been the.
It must have been the pillsthat you were taking.
He said I stopped taking them ayear ago.
And they said it wasn't Sarah,it wasn't that session.
(41:14):
It's a miracle, but it wasn'ther, so they couldn't believe
that.
One session of hypnotherapy andeven the doctors and surgeons
said it's a miracle, it'sworking at 100.
So that is the power of yourmind connecting with something
higher.
So it's amazing, yeah yeah, andit's.
Dr. Michele Burklund (41:32):
I mean it's.
It's always like the ultimateparadox too, like when you want
something so bad, or you push itright, you push it away, and
once you release it and you seewhy you were holding that on,
everything is in alignment.
You know whether?
it's like a woman desperatelytrying to get pregnant, obsessed
with those ideas.
And once it's released, in thesame way, you know, and she's at
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peace, with exactly everythingin the blocks removed,
everything occurs and it's.
It's amazing we can do thatwith hypnotherapy too.
I know for me.
I went to university for 14years and so I have this
analytical side here, this spinit's, it's balancing that and
removing that when I need to,and yeah, and I feel like I went
(42:14):
for too long, and it's like awhole battle trying to remove a
lot of that thinking and thatprogramming and finding the
balance between the two and Ithink, yeah, yeah, but that was
meant to be that you did these,the amazing that you did for 10
years.
Sarah Jane Smith (42:30):
But what you'll find it wasn't a waste of
time, because what you'll findis everything.
It's like dot connectingeverything.
Everything you've done,michelle has value.
Everything you've done,definitely definitely picking up
on oh, I learned this and Ilearned that.
So we need people like you.
It isn't the sarah smith show,I always make jokes about that.
No, we need.
Do we need doctors?
Yes, we do.
The ones that question like youdo we need surgeons?
(42:53):
Yes, of course you do.
What was the question?
Do we need reiki homeopathy?
Me, look, it's all of ustogether, it's not just me and
it's not just you.
Exactly, all of us, vax on, vax, whatever, come over to the
same side and unify.
We all need each other, youknow, and we should me and the
medical crew and everything befighting?
(43:14):
No, we should not be fighting.
We're all on the same team,coming together.
That's really, really, reallyimportant, because we have the
one goal, or we should have theone goal that's helping people,
and people will decide, yes,yeah, yeah, exactly.
And and I think maybe we neededthe last four years for people
to truly, you know, wipe thescales from their eyes and
(43:34):
really see what's going on.
Like you said, michelle, that'sthat's brilliant the way you
put it you trust yourself.
Forget about that.
Trust yourself.
Forget about that.
Trust yourself.
We all had an intuition and agut feeling and everything.
We will get through thistogether.
But I always said when Iadvertised on David Icke and
other places and do interviews,let the people decide.
They can choose me or they cansay we don't like her, this
(43:57):
isn't for us, and then choosesomething or somebody else.
Dr. Michele Burklund (44:01):
But you should be questioning everything
right and all of us should bequestioning.
And I I get so many patientstoo that come in and say, you
know, like the doctor said,statistically this is going to
happen in my illness or this,and they hold on to it so deep
and they own that, and then itgoes into their body rather than
(44:24):
listening to themselves andsaying does this, is this right
for me, you know?
And and this is where I lovehypnotherapy so much, and
recommending it to my patientsis to release all of those
things, cause they always ask meto I'll be like, okay, well, we
can see that there's anassociation here or there's a
block here, and then the nextpart is how do we get rid of it?
(44:45):
And so, yeah, it's a verypowerful.
Sarah Jane Smith (44:48):
Yeah, and we found that we all know now that
up until now, they've beentreating, you know, the big
pharma, the doctors, they'vebeen treating the symptoms and
it's like, well, what was thecause?
I say to people, somebody says,oh, I went in for this
(45:09):
operation.
And I say, okay, what causedthat in the first place?
And they say we don't know,we're just, we're just going to
have the symptoms.
okay, well, something else isgoing to happen to you now
something else is probably goingto happen to your body, because
the body is giving you messages.
It's you hello, we're trying toget through to you.
And I remember Dolores sayingbut why do you need to use pain
when you're being given themessage to your body?
(45:29):
And they said because you'renot going to ignore pain, now
you're going to have to addresswhatever you're going through
and they have very literal,literal meanings.
You know, I used to haveproblems with my voice and my
vocal cord and they say well,what?
What truth are you not speaking?
It's giving you literalmessages.
You know, the hips are movingyou forward in life, you know.
Dr. Michele Burklund (45:50):
So that's what we need to pay attention to
and we need to find the answersto move forward and so do
people come to you for specific,like medical conditions Do I
know they come in general orthey want answers or routes to
figure out where they're goingin life and and what's going on,
(46:11):
but do they come from likespecific conditions or different
things as well?
Everything?
Sarah Jane Smith (46:19):
everything, you know.
People say I've got cancer,I've got problems with my lungs.
And we, I say to the higherself, the superconscious, I say,
well, when we get to a certainpoint in the session, I say can
you do a full body scan, top ofthe head, down the body to the
tip of the toes?
And then they'll say, oh, herkidney isn't working.
They'll find out.
So suddenly people are you, youknow, qualified surgeons in
(46:41):
their own session.
They're saying yes, yes, yes.
And I say to the, the forcethat we're working with through
the client, I say how can youhelp?
Can you help them?
And I said, but why is ithappened?
And they'll say they'll tellthe client the reason.
And then they'll all say, well,can you help them?
And they'll say, yes, we'regoing to put energy in the body,
energy, energy in that organ.
They'll use lights, they'll useenergy.
(47:02):
It's always natural, you know,and I actually sometimes think I
can see these lights comingdown into the body.
You know, I actually see peopleleaving their body too, which
is quite interesting.
Also, people have been saying tome lately there's another thing
, another phenomenon thatstarted happening the last
(47:25):
almost 15 clients in a row, theystarted seeing the same city,
looking the same way, with thesame color as the same path
going up to, and looked a littlebit like the Wizard of Oz, and
they started seeing a particularcolor of a gem.
And when I said, what does thatmean, what is all this for?
They told me the same thing.
(47:45):
Let's say, for example, theysaid that's for love, the
meaning is love, and they're allsaying the same thing, in the
same way, with the same words,and I'm thinking how can almost
15 people in a row be seeing thesame thing?
Because it's the same forcecoming through all of them.
And when I see 15 people in arow saying the same things in
the same way, with the samewords, the same meaning, for me
(48:08):
that's evidence, that'sempirical evidence, and I'm
wondering how many more aregoing to see the same thing too.
So I feel, like Dolores was,that I'm being given a big
jigsaw and it's almost like eachclient are a piece of the
jigsaw and they are.
Not only is it specific answersand healing for them, but
they're giving me messages to toput in another book, and I have
(48:33):
material now for probably threebooks.
There's so much.
But they're telling me thatthis is, this is the future
we're going to have, and they'reall seeing it in the same way.
I just don't want to let thecat out of the bag too much,
because I want to see how manymore are seeing the same thing.
And they're telling me thatthis particular gem and color
(48:53):
and stone is very important forwhat we're doing, the answers
and the healing and and the work.
So, um, how can they all beseeing and saying the same thing
?
It's, it's it.
It blows my mind as well, and Ihave it all on the recordings
as well as proof.
Yeah, so so it blows their mindtoo, because everybody wakes up
(49:14):
and says I made that all up.
And I say, yeah, you and theother 15 made it all up, yeah
yeah, so it's not possible hardto argue it's it.
Yeah, it's not possible.
So, um, the things that I'm,the common denominator and all
with all of this work, with allof this information, and it's
just blowing my mind and I sitand I smile and I go, we're on
(49:35):
to something here.
It's just proving to me thatthis is all real and it is all
really happening.
Dr. Michele Burklund (49:40):
Yeah, yeah , amazing yeah, you really do
some powerful work they say.
Sarah Jane Smith (49:49):
They say it isn't really me doing it.
I think I always point up.
I say it's them.
Okay, I don't give anybodyadvice or answers.
I'll give you anecdotal storiesabout myself, but you're not
here to get advice from me.
I can'll give you anecdotalstories about myself, but you're
not here to get advice from me.
I can't tell you what they'regoing to tell you.
It's mind blowing.
You know, I could never come upwith that it blows my mind when
(50:09):
I hear it too.
But they've said that they willonly work with specific people.
They know your intention.
They know my intention towardsyou.
They know that I'm not tryingto do this for fame or fortune
or success, anything of that.
I'm generally genuinely tryingto help people.
So they will work with you know, hopefully people like me,
(50:33):
because they know I really,really, really love all the
clients and the people I workwith and I really want a result
for them, almost more than theywanted, and I will get a result.
I will keep working for themall day long.
And I say to people I'm not likeother professionals.
I cannot finish that session inthree to four hours.
(50:54):
I can't.
It might take me eight or nineor 10 hours.
That's because people need totalk a lot about their life.
But I say to people I'll offeryou unlimited hours on the day
of the session because I focusonly on one client a day.
That's how I work and that'show my sessions, all of them,
are a success.
All of them work.
And people say, well, I go under.
(51:15):
I never did before.
Yes, everybody goes.
Why?
Because you're putting yourselfunder.
I see people, their eyes arebeginning to go and I say
because you're putting yourselfunder.
I see people, their eyes arebeginning to go and I say you're
putting yourself under and theysay, yeah, I'm ready to lie
down if I, if I do them overzoom, if I have a lot of clients
in America, australia, you knowthere's a woman I'm flying over
from Taiwan next week, like 20hours, something like that.
(51:38):
She's flying in.
So for people it is sincethey've seen me on David Icke it
is extremely important and theywant to come and physically see
me face to face as well.
And I always joke with peoplebecause the people I meet from
you know that watch David Icke.
They're highly conscious,highly intelligent people and I
(51:59):
always say, look, I wouldn'thave lasted three days on David
Icke, nevermind three years,because the feedback and the
reviews and everything I'mgetting is it's mind blowing and
it's life changing and I'm veryhumbled and grateful to people
for that.
But the other thing is I hadalmost 180.
I was talking to Dr Ryan Colethe other day.
(52:19):
He's an amazing doctor andsomebody said he's got 100 and
you've only got 80 and I said,no, I had 180 google reviews but
they've taken down 100 of myreviews.
Why?
Because some of the reviewshave been by doctors and
surgeons and they've said I'm adoctor and this is mind-blowing,
I'm a surgeon, it's changed mylife forever and boom, it's gone
(52:40):
.
It's gone and google said itisn't us, it's gone, it's gone.
And Google said it isn't us,it's the algorithm, it's AI.
So why are they taking downhundreds of my reviews?
I must be doing something right, but I copy and paste them
anyway and I keep them, so thatdoesn't bother me.
I just smile and I think, well,whatever I'm doing is
threatening somebody somewhere.
So I think it's a good sign.
(53:02):
If you're not annoying somebodysomewhere, then you're doing
something wrong.
Dr. Michele Burklund (53:07):
Right, right.
Yeah, I think when you have,when you polarize and you get
people to fill a certain way,then you initiate that response
to and and yeah, that means thatsomething's moving and and yeah
, that means that something'smoving, something's changing.
Sarah Jane Smith (53:25):
Yeah, we're upsetting somebody somewhere,
but I I'm not naive, michelle, Iknew when I first started
advertising on david, like I Iwas.
I I thought to myself themajority of people are gonna,
hopefully they'll like it andthey'll want it, but you'll
always get the naysayers sayingshe's lying, she's, you know,
it's not true, it's whatever.
And I still get like the, thehit pieces written saying no no,
no, no, no.
(53:45):
You can't help people in onesession.
No, you can't help people inone session, but I do.
So there you go, you know.
How can you say that you knoweverything?
I don't think I know everythingyou know.
Socrates says wisdom is knowinghow little we know.
I don't know everything.
I don't think I know everythingyou know.
Socrates says wisdom is knowinghow little we know.
I don't know everything.
I'm learning every day, youknow.
(54:05):
But the thing is I don't giveup on people.
I work with them for the wholeday till I get a result.
That's the, that's the best Ican do.
I bring my A game to everysingle session, just like you do
.
Dr. Michele Burklund (54:19):
And and you see people around the world
like through Zoom.
So how you and I are seeingeach other today.
You can do sessions and you cango hours and hours working with
them this way as well.
Sarah Jane Smith (54:31):
Oh, yeah, I mean, I get up.
I used to do shift work.
Anyway, I'll get up at five inthe morning.
If it's somebody in Australia,because of the difference in
time zones, I get up.
I have people in Alaska andCanada and USA.
I only deal with one person aday.
So I say, yeah, I'll work withyou till you know a maximum one
in the morning.
Why?
Because I need to be fresh, Ineed to be focused, I don't want
(54:52):
to work too late, but I'll getup early in the morning and I
will adjust to that person'stime zone, no problem.
Whereas I know otherprofessionals.
They say it's 11am, london timeor nothing.
I don't want to do that becauseI don't want to say to people
it's 2am, your time.
I think they're going to fallasleep, they're going to be too
tired.
So I say, well, why don't wecompromise?
It's this time my zone and it'sthat time your zone.
(55:15):
And yeah, that's perfect forboth of us.
So I will do anytime peoplewant.
I used to joke anyone anywhere.
Anytime, I will help you, noproblem.
Yeah, that's my modus operandi.
I'm here to help.
I won't say no to anybody, youknow.
Dr. Michele Burklund (55:34):
Which is great too.
Yeah, Because I'm sure a lot ofpeople need help and there's a
lot of tough cases and thingsthat maybe other hypnotherapists
wouldn't want to take on.
So I think and just holdingyour energy all day for one
person is a beautiful thing.
Sarah Jane Smith (55:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I get it's almost like
the splashback of this theenergy and the joy and the
happiness.
So why wouldn't I go there?
I'm the luckiest person in theworld with the best job because
it's actually impacting me too.
I get the happiness and the joyand the love and just seeing
those people wake up and looklike different people and I
(56:12):
always think they look likethey're about 10 or 20 years
younger as well.
They look refreshed and awakeand they're happy.
They've got the answers.
Dr. Michele Burklund (56:30):
Yeah, no, I think that's great and I think
, yeah, there's.
So hypnosis is endless of whatit can do, like for me.
It's helped me in so manydifferent ways of removing
different beliefs and I cantarget it in and figure out what
, what I need to have removed,and I can either try it through
meditation and differentpractices.
But if I can't remove it or ifit's something very clear, I
think like especially for me,hypnosis has done wonders for
(56:50):
for things like that as well.
So I'm I'm so thankful you cancome on today and and talk to us
about it.
Sarah Jane Smith (56:58):
Oh, I'm very grateful to meet you too.
Yeah, finally, because you, youhave a wonderful story.
I was reading your bio and it'sabsolutely.
It's beautiful, it's amazing.
You're a wonderful human being.
I'm very grateful for you too.
Dr. Michele Burklund (57:12):
Thank you, Well, thank you for coming on
today.
So much, Sarah, and we'll besure to put all of your
information posted on my websiteand the podcast too, so they
can find you and and everybodycan help remove their own
blockages and and get closer tothemselves as well.
Sarah Jane Smith (57:31):
Absolutely yeah, looking forward to hearing
from everybody.
Dr. Michele Burklund (57:34):
Okay, thank you so much.
Welcome to the podcast Medicine Untold and
come with me on a journey tothe unexplored side of medicine,
where we speak with rebeldoctors, radical herbalists,
unorthodox healers and patientswho have healed themselves.
Explore the intersectionbetween science and spirituality
and discover the power withinyou.
(00:26):
I'm your host, dr MichelleBirkeland, licensed naturopathic
doctor, botanical alchemist andpracticing physician.
Hi everyone, welcome today.
Today we have Sarah Jane Smithwith us, a hypnotherapist, and
I'm going to read a little bitabout her background, too,
(00:48):
before we get started.
So Sarah Jane Smith is aquantum healing hypnotherapist,
a psychic and a medium that cantap into the past lives of her
clients.
Sarah is the founder of QuantumHypno, located in UK, and does
online sessions around the world.
She specializes in quantumhealing, hypnosis technique and
(01:10):
beyond quantum healing.
Sarah is an in-demandhypnotherapist with celebrities
and millionaires from around theworld.
Her latest film, escape theMatrix, has been officially
selected by the Roma and TokyoShort Film Festivals.
So welcome, sarah.
Thank you so much for joiningus.
(01:33):
Yeah.
Sarah Jane Smith (01:35):
Yeah, well, you know, when you, when you
talk about, I am a quantumhealing hypnosis, and you know,
or hypnotherapist, I was goingto say hypnosis expert, or
hypnotherapist, it's quite amouthful, and you know, or
hypnotherapist, I was going tosay hypnosis expert, or
hypnotherapy, it's quite amouthful.
And that's why we sure we weretrying to shorten and shorten
and shorten it, but still getthe you know the um, the idea in
.
So we, we just devised quantumhypno, so I founded quantum
(01:55):
hypno because it's short andit's to the point.
You know, if that, if thatmakes sense yeah, yeah, that's.
Dr. Michele Burklund (02:01):
That's perfect.
It is a mouthful, but it'simpressive too.
I mean, it captivateseverything, and kind of what you
do with the quantum.
Sarah Jane Smith (02:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, as soon as I
say to people, you know, whenyou're at parties or you're
having conversations, when theysay what do you do?
And I say, oh, here we go, I'ma hypnotherapist, wow.
And everybody's, everybody's sointerested, interested, they
say the usual things like wouldyou make me into a chicken or
could you?
Could you, you know, make mehand over my money?
(02:29):
And it's, it's all of these.
You know belief systems, or canyou, you know?
Do you do mk ultra?
Do you do mind control?
And actually it's so simple,you know, um, we work with.
Let me just begin.
I started.
I found Dolores Cannon aboutsix years ago Now.
(02:51):
I was following I'm an athlete,I'm a swimmer and a runner and
I still love running, you knowand I was following an African
American Navy SEAL called DavidGoggins.
So I remember one day lookingthem up on YouTube and typing in
David Goggins, and it startedsaying Dolores Cannon.
And I said no, david Goggins.
(03:11):
And it said again do you meanDolores Cannon?
And the third time I thoughtthis is ridiculous.
So I started watching thisvideo of this wonderful woman,
dolores Cannon, and immediatelyI said that's it, that's it.
I know what I'm going to do forthe rest of my life because it
was the way she described herjob and it was.
She truly cared about people.
(03:34):
I don't know whether you'veever seen a video of her work,
but it was mind blowing.
And I think at the time also,when I discovered Dolores Cannon
, I was getting very frustrated.
I knew I couldn't find theanswers on BBC or even, you know
, discovery Channel.
I wanted to know the truth.
Look who built the pyramids.
Who was it?
I'm not.
(03:54):
It's not good enough anymore.
I wanted more and more and moreanswers and I feel like I
didn't find this job, or I callit a calling.
It found me.
So I remember thinking you knowthis, this is me, this this is
me because I want to really helpclients.
(04:14):
And I remember her talkingabout the fact she talks about
the super conscious, which sheshortened to the SC, because
everything in life is simple,michelle, the answers are always
simple.
She called it the SC, or theclients called it the higher
self, or the oversoul, or theuniversal energy, and Delores
started describing this energy,that under hypnosis.
(04:36):
And I'll tell you a little bitabout how I work with people.
It's very simple, how it comesthrough the client and it shows
you where the client's issuesbegan, and it also gives them
the answers to all the lifequestions that they've ever
wanted.
You know, I asked them to comewith five questions about their
life and five questions abouttheir body, and it also gives
(04:59):
them instant healing.
Instant healing and I rememberthinking this is amazing.
I want to try this for myself.
So I qualified, I did the firstlevel of quantum healing,
hypnosis and we had to advertisein the public for free, so I
had all sorts of peopleanswering my ads and they came
(05:20):
to my home and I remember thisone particular man I called Dave
.
I've written a book about this,so Dave was a former police
officer and he'd been in head-oncollisions, accidents,
everything, and he said that thesurgeons had they'd done some
work on his spine and hecouldn't actually move because
(05:44):
they did great work, but hecouldn't move the head, neck or
anything like that anymore andhe was actually getting um, he
was working as a mechanic andthe fingers and the hands just
didn't didn't work anymore asthey should do and I thought
that's quite strange.
So they were given all thissort of diagnosis by the medical
crowd and I always ask a lot ofquestions, open questions, and
(06:04):
he also said to me now I need tohave keyhole surgery done on my
knee because there's nocartilage.
And he said don't touch thatbecause nobody can ever fix that
.
And I remember sitting theregoing oh, I love these
challenges when people say thatcan't be done.
And I'm thinking there's alwaysa way.
There's always, never, ever saynothing's impossible, because
(06:24):
it's like Roger Bannister.
He ran the four minute mile, Ithink 1952 in Helsinki, and
everybody said that can't bedone until somebody does it.
And then everybody's doing it.
So I have this man, dave, up inmy bedroom and he, dave, started
shaking, the body startedshaking and I said is he okay?
And this is what you and I weretalking about before.
(06:47):
How do you know who and whatyou're talking to?
And the super conscious iscoming through, because he
started talking about himself inthe third person and they
started I call them they.
They started saying to mebecause I went to sort of say
look, he's my patient, is he, ishe okay?
(07:07):
Is he?
Is he could have been having afit.
He was shaking, so, lookingafter him, they told me sit back
down, he's fine.
It was a different voice talkingthrough this man.
It was very authoritative, veryfirm, but protective of him as
well.
And I said what?
What's going on?
And I said he's been told thathis spine has been fused
(07:28):
together, he's broken all thesevertebrae.
And I said is that true?
And the voice came back throughthis man saying no, it isn't
true.
It was the synapses, or theneurons in the brain.
They weren't actually passingdown through the arms and the
legs and the body anymore,weren't actually passing down
through the arms and the legsand the body anymore.
So basically, that was why hewas having a stiffness in his
(07:49):
hands and I said what are youdoing?
I asked a lot of questions andthey said we're rewiring the
body starting in the brain.
we're rewiring the body and hestarted becoming an expert on
brain and synapses and all ofthis thing, the messages going
all the way down to his feet.
And then I said, well, you know, and I thought I can't believe
what I'm seeing.
The world needs to know aboutthis.
(08:10):
And then I said, well, you knowhis right knee could.
Yes, yes, that's fine.
And I said what are you doing?
And they said, well, we'reregrowing the cartilage in his
knee.
10 minutes later, 10, 15minutes later, they said he's
fine, he'll be fine.
And he woke up and he said Ican't believe what's happened.
I can't believe what you'vejust done.
I said I didn't do anything.
(08:30):
I'm the facilitator, I justasked questions.
And he said to me, emailed meabout six months later.
He keeps in touch with meregularly.
He said the knee's perfect,he's never needed surgery.
And he said the hands,everything, the body is working
perfectly.
And I remember Michelle.
The point is, I rememberthinking, like I've just said,
the world needs to know aboutthis.
(08:51):
I can't keep this a secretbecause you should never be sick
.
This is another question youand I were discussing beforehand
.
The body should never be sick.
However, how do your thoughtscreate illness in the body?
Okay, we create illness.
And the great thing is, wecreate disease and we create
(09:12):
illness because the body isgiving you literal messages.
It's telling you you know, theshoulders or the back is sore.
Well, you've got the weight ofthe world on your shoulders.
If somebody's got a problemwith their spine, I say do you
have enough?
Have enough support?
And they say I don't feelsupported at all.
I had a lady last night.
She said I'm nearsighted, I Ican't see far distances.
(09:34):
And I said are you afraid ofthe future, what you're going to
see?
And she said well, yeah, okay,we're creating all of these
subconsciously.
And what dolores cannon used tosay is if you've created those
disease, common sense will tellyou you can uncreate them too.
You can heal yourself.
Now, what quantum healinghypnosis is?
(09:54):
You know, dolores actuallyshe's the one that actually
started bringing this to thealternative world, but also Carl
Jung.
He said he found the superconscious talking through people
, working through them as well.
Now, carl Jung was, just as faras I'm aware, exploring the
(10:15):
mind, and what is the connectionand you know what happened was
he started coming through thisvery distinct voice it always
sounds the same when they talkthrough the clients and he said
he was so freaked out because hedidn't know what it was and he
wasn't expecting it that henever did hypnosis again because
he was scared.
Now, because of Dolores Cannon'sexplanations and her wonderful
(10:39):
training, she explains correctlythat this energy is a joy to
work with.
Even I feel it as well.
I listen to people talkingabout their trauma and their
lives for one, two, three, fourcould be five hours, michelle,
because we need to get to knoweach other and establish a
rapport.
So I listen to these peopletalking for hours about their
(11:00):
lives and going througheverything that happened, and
this helps me to understand,probably, where they're going to
go Now.
I never know.
I don't actually take people.
Let's go to your childhood,let's go.
I don't know where to take them, but the force that we're
working with, the higher self,the superconscious.
(11:20):
It knows more about you thanyou know about yourself.
It will take you to the mostrelevant place that the issue
began, because we treat thecause of the issue.
We don't just lie down and takeeverything away, even if you
want to.
I want to know why thishappened to you, because I'm
learning as well, and so whathappens is it will take you to
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your childhood, or it will takeyou to a past life.
It will take you to one or twoor three past lives.
Now, those past lives, I willalways ask how are they relative
to her life or his life today?
They won't show you somethinglike, oh well, she was living in
(12:05):
the 1800s in London.
Well, what is that going to dowith her?
Now?
Nothing.
It will always give youconnection to those past lives
and the current life that you'reliving now.
And if people don't believe inpast lives, that's fine.
They're telling you a storyabout how those lives you know.
Somebody says I don't want to bea leader, I don't want to talk
because I'm not capable, I can'tdo it.
They'll say well, you did itbefore.
(12:25):
You were leading people in thiscompletely different life, in
this different era, showing youyou've already done it.
And people will say I can'tstart a business?
Well, they'll show you a lifewhere you did and you were very
successful.
You've done all this before andwe bring those gifts and
(12:48):
abilities into this life too.
So they're showing you pastlives.
But also people say how do youknow what's real?
Okay, let me give you anexample of how I know the past
lives are real.
I believe they are, becausewhen somebody is going into a
man or a woman in this othertime, this other time and place,
they identify completely withthat character.
They become that person.
And when something emotionalhappens maybe there's a death of
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a loved one or something sojoyous and beautiful happening
they don't just cry, they sobfrom their soul.
This isn't like you know oh,you know, I lost a baby and
there's no reaction.
No, they're sobbing from theirsoul.
They're crying, and crying, andcrying, and I think this is
also that's proof that you knowsomething is happening with
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these people.
Everybody cries, everybody hasthis overwhelming amount of
emotion and also I wonder ifthey're also releasing those
people from those lives.
They're releasing their traumatoo.
I've also found that people arereleasing their ancestral
trauma.
I'll give you an example.
(13:55):
Somebody might have said a lotof them say my mother treated me
like this and my father treatedme like that.
And I say if they have children, how do you treat your children
?
And they say well, I wouldnever treat them the way I was
treated.
And they're learning why.
Because they know how painfulit is if they say my mother was
(14:15):
a narcissist, my father wascontrolling.
Well, you don't do that toother people now, because you
know you don't want to putpeople through that again.
So we're actually healingancestral trauma.
And I say to people would you beopen also to whether they're
alive or dead, it doesn't matter.
Would you be open to thepossibility of forgiving?
Send your mother forgiveness orwhoever it is, because you know
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what.
That was the best they could do.
We send them love andforgiveness and I teach them how
to do that and I say to themyou don't need to say to their
face I don't recommend doingthat at all, michelle, I forgive
you.
I don't think that will go downwell with a lot of people.
You know you do it through yourmind.
You say a few things to themthrough your mind and also, if
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somebody has passed away andthey're on the spirit side, we
send them forgiveness too.
And then we find that we areyou're putting down the backpack
and the baggage and everything.
And also people in the sessions.
I find they have guilt.
They feel a lot of guilt orremorse or sadness.
We find out where they'restoring that in the body and why
(15:21):
.
And I say to them let it go,let it go, no matter.
And they say but she did thisto me.
And men say she took mychildren and my money.
And I say, but she did this tome.
And men say she took mychildren and my money.
And I say, but she's going to,you're going to kill yourself,
you're going to have a heartattack or you're going to create
something.
Let it go.
And so we do.
We treat everybody with loveand forgiveness, not sort of
saying, oh my gosh, yourex-husband is, it sounds like a
(15:43):
terrible man.
That's not going to work, it'snot going to help.
And we find out.
I say to people do you feel likeyou made a contract on the
spirit side with your mother oryour ex-husband or whatever?
And there's always a pause andthey always answer yes, I did
99% of the time.
Okay, why did you make acontract?
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What did you make a contract tolearn?
And they'll say, well, he'steaching me patience and I tried
to teach him spirituality orsomething like that.
Did it work?
And they'll usually say, as anempath the people I get, they're
highly sensitive people,they're empaths They'll say,
yeah, it worked for me, but notfor him.
And I say that's his karma, letit go.
Let it go.
(16:24):
You're here to offer yourteaching and your help.
And if they don't want it,that's fine, that's fine, let it
go.
And I find that the majority ofpeople I get they're like me.
They say they were very awarefrom an early age.
They always say to me like me,I never fit in.
I don't know about you,michelle, I never fit into this
(16:45):
place.
They try, try, even.
They move country, they goplaces and they still don't fit
in.
And Dolores wrote a book calledthe Three Waves of Volunteers.
I've just written a new booknow called the New Wave of
Volunteers, because underhypnosis, we find out that these
people have volunteered to comehere to help.
(17:06):
Now, what they have in commonis, like I just said, they never
fit in.
They're highly sensitive people, probably like yourself, like
me too.
They say we have a voraciousappetite for knowledge and
learning.
You know, the place couldalmost be on fire and you'll say
one more page, one more page,I'm onto something now.
And we just never stop.
And also we are watchers andobserver.
(17:27):
We love people watching, we'relearning all the time.
And I find that under hypnosis,these people have said oh, what
was I thinking?
I volunteered to come here.
I volunteered to come here andhelp, because Dolores wrote
after 1945, the earth was introuble, world War II had
(17:49):
finished and also we were usingatomic power for all the wrong
reasons.
And up there somewhere theymust've been looking down at us
going.
These kids are, they're goingto blow themselves up.
You know, I don't know what'sgoing on, but we need help.
There is like a little bit likeStar Trek.
There is a prime directive ofnon-interference.
Now, who are they?
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I'm talking about being ETswhether you believe in them or
not, it doesn't matter.
Beings of consciousness, beingsof light, everything.
Now they heard the call, evenpeople like us.
We would have heard the calland we would have said, yes,
we'll volunteer to come here andhelp.
But they say on the spirit side, michelle, you have your little
plans wrapped up in your littlebox with your little ribbon and
(18:31):
you say I'm going to do thisand I'm going to change the
world.
And I say I will too.
We high five each other,probably, and we're born.
The problem is we don'tremember why we've come here.
And if we did remember, itprobably wouldn't be a test.
You know, they say life is aschool, this earth is a school
of learning, and we're goingthrough all these tests.
(18:51):
But anyway, they say thatpeople like all of us, probably
we heard the call.
Now people say where was I whenI heard the call?
Everybody originates fromsource, from.
God from source, whatever youwant to call it.
We all come from there.
But my question is I askdifferent questions when were we
, where was I when I heard thecall?
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And people say they had no body, they were being a
consciousness, they were onanother planet.
They say I'm blue, I'm green,I'm an ET.
And they say I heard the call.
And I say why did you come?
And they say because we lovethe humans, we love this planet
and we came here to help.
And I found under hypnosis.
I've had between 1500 and 1600people, michelle.
(19:32):
They all say the same thing.
They say I came here tovolunteer to help people.
Now, everybody's come here withdifferent experiences.
Like I already said, they don'tfit in.
They're highly sensitive people, but we all have a different
point of attention.
You have your point ofattention, your experiences, you
have your own gifts andabilities and you're helping
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people with your work and justbeing you.
Sometimes people say what do Ineed to do to change the world?
And the answer is just beyourself.
It's your energy, it'sbeautiful and you will affect
everybody everywhere you go.
But then other people they say,well, you need to do, and they
go.
I don't want to do publicspeaking a bit like me.
You need to go on stage, youneed to do public speaking, you
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need to do interviews, you needto write books, and so we're all
told they're told in thesession this is what you're
going to need to do.
And so why do people come to me?
You know, we were talking aboutthis earlier.
They're at a junction orcrossroads in their life and
they're thinking do I go thisway, do I go that way?
Where do I go?
(20:35):
And the majority of people, thenumber one question I'm asked
is why am I here?
Why did I come here?
You know this place, whereverwe've come from or volunteered
to come from, this is a heavy,heavy place for us.
It's a heavy planet.
We don't understand the clientsI get.
They don't understand war,hatred, screaming, arguing and
(20:58):
violence.
We never get used to it ashighly sensitive people, and so
we're here to do anything we canto help people.
And you know why are theanswers coming now?
All of the answers are comingout in the session now about who
we are and what we're doing.
I think it's the right time.
I think this is, this is Idon't know what you think.
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It's an amazing time to bealive.
And there's been so much fear.
There's been so much fear.
Is there going to be a oneworld government?
I ask for advice for theclients.
I say can you give Michelle alittle bit of advice, last
minute advice?
And they say, yeah, be yourself, do what you're you know, speak
your mind, speak your truth.
And I say, do you have anyadvice for humanity?
(21:41):
And they say there's not goingto be a one world government.
This isn't going to happen.
Their plan isn't going to win,but you need to fight back even
harder than ever.
We know we're going to winbecause we're more powerful, but
we also need.
I explain it like this theanswers are very simple, all the
answers in the session.
They're very simple, yet genius.
(22:01):
And I say to people Michelle,look, you and I could sit here
for 10 years and psychoanalyzeeach other, you know, for all of
this amount of time, but wewon't come up with the answers
that they tell us in the session, because the answers are always
simple.
They're staring you in the face, but they're also genius as
well, and that's why I find wedo the session.
(22:21):
That's the great thing about it, because you get the answers
like that and I always say topeople I record all of the
hypnosis part.
I don't record anything they saybefore the session.
That's always private andconfidential and it's a bit like
Dolores said.
She said it's a bit like yourmother confessor, and they're
coming to you and they're sayingto me maybe I killed somebody,
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maybe I did this, I did that,and they're telling me stuff
that they've never, ever toldanybody before, because they
need to say things out loud,they need to, people need to
hear themselves talking, andthey're unraveling things as
they go and realizing, you know,that the answers were always
inside them.
Anyway, we have all the answers.
(23:05):
Anyway, you know that we'renever supposed to be ill, but
it's remembering why, why are wehere and who we truly are.
Because I find, once you knowwho you are, everything else
starts falling into place, ifthat makes sense right, yeah, a
hundred percent.
Dr. Michele Burklund (23:23):
And and what?
What I see a lot with patientsis, let's say, they had, like, a
childhood trauma, or they havethis belief system about
themselves or it could be, youknow, related to their mother or
their grandfather or somethinglike that and they see it, but
they still can't release it,right?
Or they can go to therapy andtalk about it, but it's still in
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their subconscious, it's intheir belief system.
And the biggest question is,right, how can they release it
from their body and from theirmind long-term?
And that's where I thinkhypnosis is so powerful, right?
Because they can go into thatplace and they can finally
release it, rather than speakingabout it again and again and
seeing it, but taking that outand permanently removing it too,
(24:09):
and that's where there aredifferences.
Sarah Jane Smith (24:12):
I totally agree with you, michelle, and I
don't know what you think aboutthe ego, the left brain.
Now, the majority of my peopleI get okay, because I say what
is your job?
And when they say doctor,lawyer, surgeon, the left brain,
okay, they're trained to beleft brain, not like you.
They don't ask questions likeyou do.
You're, you're, you'reabsolutely brilliant and I know
(24:32):
that you're very spiritual,you're brilliant at what you do.
But a lot of teachers, you know, I get military, sas, cia, you,
you name it.
Okay, they're trained to beleft brain.
And when I get SAS men, I'mlike we're going to have fun
with this guy because they'renot going to let go.
And I just say let go, you'rewasting time, there's nothing,
(24:53):
you know, there's nothing tofear, but you can see them
clinging on to dear life.
Another question that youbrilliantly asked as well is why
do we use hypnosis?
Ok, that's simple.
Let me just make it quitesimple for people.
You're turning down the leftbrain during hypnosis.
Okay, that's simple.
Let me just make it quitesimple for people.
You're turning down the leftbrain during hypnosis.
It's not just lying down andtalking on a sofa with a
psychotherapist.
(25:14):
No, we're turning down thechatter, that I call it the
matrix mind, and we're turningdown the left brain enough,
because we need the speech, weneed them.
So it's a talking therapy.
So we need them to talk andtalk and talk and continue
talking.
And because we keep themcontinuously talking, you're
putting yourself.
I say I don't put you intoanything, I don't hypnotize you.
(25:35):
You're doing it to yourself andthey're bringing themselves
down.
They're bringing because youasked a brilliant question about
theta as well.
They're bringing themselvesinto this state of theta.
What is theta?
It's very, very to describe.
It's the state that you go intobefore you fall asleep.
Most people aren't aware orcognizant that they're seeing
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the images and the pictures andthe symbols.
That's all it is before you gointo deep sleep, which is called
delta.
You also you're in theta againbefore you wake up and you
remember.
I remember the dream and I waskissing somebody and it was
great, and then it starts tojust disappear and then you
think I can't remember itanymore.
That's theta.
(26:17):
Theta is absolutely normal andyou're going into it every night
and every morning and peoplesay can I die under hypnosis?
And I say well, do you diebefore you wake up and before
you fall asleep?
No, clearly you don't.
It's safe.
Now it.
Also you're always in controlbecause I get all.
I call them affection, callthem the controllers, but you're
(26:38):
always in control.
You can get up anytime you want.
You will be very awake andaware and conscious.
You know.
But I say to people why are youtrying to control the session?
If you went to a masseuse,would you say do it like this,
oh hell, I'll do it myself.
I say no, let go, relax.
And I say to people allow andsurrender, and it will happen.
(27:00):
And it's a great way for peoplethat like to control everything
to learn to just let go andjust have faith.
And there is always a force, auniversal force or an energy
looking after you and we.
They feel it in their body andI think one of the main things
of the session, one of the maingoals that we have, is for them
(27:20):
to feel how it is to connectwith their higher self or super
conscious.
They actually really feel veryconscious of that and it's great
because I say to them look,I'll help you in just one
session, in just one session.
You don't need to depend on meor anybody else anymore.
I'll always be here to answeryour emails.
(27:42):
If you need any help, I'll behere for you, but you don't need
another session.
You need just one session,because they're showing you,
they giving you all the answers,they're giving you everything
you need in that session.
That's why.
That's why they call peoplereiki masters or, in my case, a
quantum hypnosis master, becauseyou help them in just one
session, you know.
(28:03):
So if we were trying to foolpeople or make money whatever,
why would we say that you don'tneed anymore, you only need to
see me once?
And I say to people go over therecording over and over again,
because it has its ownelectromagnetic frequency, just
for you.
I had a man I'll give you acouple of examples as well.
I had a man that lives in Miamiand he said to me I have one
(28:26):
week left to live.
Why?
Because I don't want to liveanymore.
My life is so terrible, it'sawful and I'm just going to
drink myself to death.
And he said after one sessionhe never drank again.
He had the answers.
He said no, no, and he didn'ttell me.
But he said I also want to makecontact with ETs or with
something with a collectiveconsciousness.
(28:48):
Said I also want to makecontact with ETs or with
something with a collectiveconsciousness.
Now he said to me and I saw himunder hypnosis.
I said what are you doing now?
And his eyes and his eyelasheswere flickering like this at a
rate.
That is not humanly possible.
Michelle, you know this as well.
You've studied this.
It's not humanly possible to dovarious movements with the eyes
and flickering and the body andstuff.
And he said also he said heknew it was real because both of
(29:11):
his parents are eye surgeons.
He said that isn't humanlypossible and so he was going to
drink himself to death.
And after that session he saidlife was just, he had all the
answers, he got on with them andhe said he believes.
He believes that he isconnected to something much
bigger than himself.
So he invited me over toFlorida to meet his wife and his
children and he said to me Iwas in the boardroom with them,
(29:33):
we were talking about marketingand stuff he's helping me with
at the moment.
And he said, um, I don't needanother session, I don't need it
ever again, don't need to comeback to you.
And I thought, well, that's myjob done if that makes sense.
Dr. Michele Burklund (29:49):
Yeah, no they.
I mean.
They always say like the bestdoctor has no patients, right
it's, it's the same, it's thesame thing when you really heal
people and you teach them to be,you know, well on their own and
you give them those tools andyou can clear it out.
I mean, that's that's the bestway.
Sarah Jane Smith (30:06):
Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, because, because we
want to move forward as ahumanity, we, we, we want to
move forward and we want to goto the next level, don't we, you
know?
I mean, I think theRockefellers, they, they were
sort of saying in the early1900s, is that right, michelle?
They were saying, oh, look,know, anything alternative is
(30:26):
their quacks Can't do homeopathyand you can't do Reiki.
You can, that's, you know, it'sonly medicine.
It's only, it's onlypharmaceutical medicine.
But I wonder, what have welearned in the last four years?
Ok, they're all.
There was a deadly virus and itwas going to kill everybody.
But what does a virus mean?
You know better than me,michelle.
(30:47):
It means a toxin or a poison.
The cell is, is poisoned, youknow.
But it's like.
You know, a friend of minewrote a really good book called
what really makes you ill, andthey busted all the virus myth
and they said, for example, if Iwas drunk and I came in and
hugged you, would I make youdrunk?
Of course not.
It's a bit like a virus.
(31:07):
I can't can't give you a virusor anything like that.
I don't know how you feel aboutthat, but in the last four
years how little we knew aboutviruses and the contagion myth
(31:31):
and everything you know but we.
But we learned that a lot ofthis is a lot of the.
You know how the doctors weretrained and the surgeons, and so
we need to open our minds againto understand that we are all
self healing you know Right, andI mean I think I think the
mindset during that time.
Dr. Michele Burklund (31:49):
you know the nocebo effect is so powerful
in that that, can you know, beexplained in double-blind,
placebo-controlled studies andeverything else the same way as
the placebo and that can affect30% of the outcome of a study.
So I mean there's so manyvariables that go in there.
But I think mindset throughoutthat whole time and how deeply
(32:09):
it was fear based and you know,if a doctor says you're going to
die in three months, a lot ofpeople will, even if they don't
have the disease, which is, youknow, it's crazy.
So I think, yeah, there was.
There was a lot of things goingon there and mindset had a huge
, huge component during thattime.
Sarah Jane Smith (32:27):
They were using a fear campaign and it was
always on the bbc and cnn.
I said to people you know, youwon't have any fear, there won't
be a virus if you switch yourtv off.
Now I I was chatting to youbeforehand and I remember, in
the middle of lockdown, I wasjust doing the dishes and stuff.
I wasn't really working which Iwasn't really doing anything to
(32:48):
you know, which which I feelashamed of to help anything or
anybody, but I was just doingthe dishes and stuff.
I wasn't really working which Iwasn't really doing anything to
, you know, which which I feelashamed of to help anything or
anybody, but I was just doing myown thing.
I was looking after the kids.
We were going out, running andplaygrounds.
We were the only one in thevillage actually going out.
I saw two army helicopters overus.
They were probably thinkinglook those crazy people down
there.
We didn't do downs, we didn'tdo the face nappies, we didn't
do vaccines, nothing.
(33:09):
We just went on and lived ourlives.
But, um, I remember hearingthis little voice in my mind
saying contact David Icke,middle of lockdown, and I said
what will I say?
And there was no answer and Itook the laptop and I scrolled
down to the very end and it saidadvertise with us.
And I thought that's it.
But everybody said to me,michelle, everybody said you're
(33:30):
crazy, they're going to targetyou, we don't know if you're
going to be locked down, lockedup with your children, and
they're going to force vaccinateyou, but you're putting your
head above the parapet.
We didn't know.
And sometimes it's taking riskslike that because I wanted to
help people like you, and likeyou do is what you want to help
people too.
And I remember thinking I'm notdoing anything to help anybody.
(33:53):
So surely taking a risk likethat, possibly to my life or my
family, it's worth it, because Ineed to do something.
I was aware that people weresuffering mentally, suffering
physically, during theselockdowns and I said, no, I need
to reach out.
I just knew, and so I sort ofrisked everything my career, my
name, everything going on.
(34:13):
David Icke Best decision I evermade, because it only got me
more clients and more work.
And, like I said in thebeginning, michelle, I believe
these are all volunteers.
They're all here to help peopleand I've helped.
I hope I've helped between 15and 1600 people in the last few
years and they've given mefeedback, saying they're also
(34:36):
affecting everybody, that theycome into contact too, and now
they all know why they're here.
They've got their purpose andeverything and they have no fear
.
Sure, they have challenges, butit's different challenges and
they're all.
It's like I they havechallenges, but it's different
challenges and they're all.
It's like I say to people it'slike they've got their car MOT
or their service.
They've got their body andtheir life MOT or service done.
They know exactly where they'regoing and what they're doing
(34:59):
and we're creating a network.
It's almost like we're buildinga big army, a spiritual army,
you know.
And the future I'm always toldthe future is absolutely
wonderful for us.
So we need to kick back evenharder.
Why not?
Dr. Michele Burklund (35:17):
Yeah, and I think that's such an important
thing too is to have everybodyhave that vision of the future.
And you know, and today too,how beautiful it is, no matter
what the situation, or duringall those crazy years too, like
how much and took advantage ofthat time a lot.
(35:43):
I always thought, like you know,if monks could go live in a
cave for years on end and takeadvantage of that.
I'm going to go and go innature and take advantage of it,
so I think everything canreally be beautiful.
And having people see that andand then find you during that
time too and and go deeper intothemselves and yeah, taking
(36:06):
advantage of that time, yeah, Ilearn I've learned so much they
don't just learn from me and Ilike to teach people.
Sarah Jane Smith (36:13):
I like to say that this is what we're going to
do and this is how it works andteach people you know, as we're
talking.
But I have to say, michelle, Ilearn a lot from the clients
myself too, because they allhave their unique individual
stories and they've had theirbattles and, you know, it's
almost like we sit and we laughtogether and we cry together and
(36:33):
it's amazing how much I'velearned.
You know, I've even had peoplethis was a mind-blowing story, I
need to tell you you.
I had a surgeon called Melanie,and she's a heart surgeon in
New York now, very left brain,but she was really trying to
embrace her spirituality and shesaid look, I did this job to
help people to truth.
She loves people.
(36:54):
And she said I want to do agreat job, but where do I go
from here, you know?
And anyway, I had her underhypnosis and she was crying and
crying.
She said this isn't real.
I'm just speaking to myself,because you feel like you're
making it all up.
There was a pause in the.
There was a couple of secondssilence, which you know it's all
(37:15):
right to have, just a fewseconds.
Then I keep them talking again.
But when I was transcribing thetape later on, I heard
something which I was notprepared for, because when
Melanie was saying I'm not, thisisn't true, this isn't, I'm
talking to myself.
It's not real.
A voice came on the tape and Istill have the voice, I can send
it to you and it said it waswhispering.
(37:36):
And it said it's okay, we'rehere for you, we'll help you,
you're not alone.
And I remember thinking what'sgoing on?
There's voices it's like youknow the voice phenomenon.
That was starting to happen inmy tapes as well and I recorded
and I'm thinking where is thiscoming from as well.
So it isn't just only the mindover matter, it's actual voices
(37:59):
coming on the tape saying no, no, no, we're here to help you,
you're not alone.
And I'm thinking what's goingon.
And this lady not only that.
She was told you know, becauseof your cycle you're going to
have to have a hysterectomy.
And I said I don't think youshould, but I'm not allowed to
say anything for legal reasons.
And she said to me she didn'thave her monthly cycle for 12
(38:24):
years.
She rang me and she said nineo'clock the next morning it came
back.
No hysterectomy needed.
So everything was on blocks.
There was one woman, anotherattorney.
She wanted to do themillionaire's mindset.
Now she was a practicingattorney, but she was also
selling artwork.
She was in the you know the artworld.
(38:45):
And she said for the last yearin the US she had a couple
saying you sold me this and I'mnot happy and we're going to sue
you.
So she said to me we didn'twork on that problem at all of
her being sued.
We worked on different things.
But they said she said I'mgoing to lose my home and I'm
going to lose everything andthen I'm going to lose my
(39:06):
marriage.
And she was catastrophizing,catastrophizing everything.
And basically what happened wasshe phoned me about nine
o'clock the next morning, she'llsay.
She said you never guess what.
They've dropped the caseagainst me.
They've dropped the case and Isaid why?
And she said we don't know, butfor no reason.
And we seem to be.
They seem to be unblockingenergetic blocks.
(39:26):
You know things, things thatare really affecting you for no
reason.
But sometimes I feel in thesession, when you let it go,
stuff starts happening.
And then she said to me notonly that, she left a review,
she said she made two veryimportant sales while she was
under, doing nothing, justfloating out in space enjoying
herself.
She was making money and it'slike how does that work?
(39:49):
I don't know.
But clearly they you know whatyou need and sometimes they're
saying that lesson is over,you've learned that lesson, that
you're going to be sued andyou're going to be on it.
You know, and you'recatastrophizing as, criticizing
everything and it's like um, andall of a sudden the blocks are
gone, you know.
So, yeah, right, yeah, likeamazing things.
(40:12):
That another man said to me.
He came and he said look, thedoctors say my heart is only
working at 20 percent.
So he was told he was in thesession.
Look, it doesn't have to be thehigher self healing you.
It could be any being ofconsciousness, being of light.
We don't mind who it is, aslong as they're being helped.
(40:32):
Some people have been on shipsand they're being helped by
reptilians and they're notliking that very much.
They're scared and I say itdoesn't matter, this is the
nearest person we're going toget their biological.
You know, they're amazing theirknowledge on biology.
Let them heal you.
Their body was healed.
And this other man that saidhis heart was only functioning
(40:52):
at 20 percent, he said he wasbeing healed by grays and ets
and I said let them do it, letthem do it.
And two months later he wentback to the surgeon and they
took a complete scan of theheart and they said it's
unbelievable, it's working at100 percent.
It must have been the.
It must have been the pillsthat you were taking.
He said I stopped taking them ayear ago.
And they said it wasn't Sarah,it wasn't that session.
(41:14):
It's a miracle, but it wasn'ther, so they couldn't believe
that.
One session of hypnotherapy andeven the doctors and surgeons
said it's a miracle, it'sworking at 100.
So that is the power of yourmind connecting with something
higher.
So it's amazing, yeah yeah, andit's.
Dr. Michele Burklund (41:32):
I mean it's.
It's always like the ultimateparadox too, like when you want
something so bad, or you push itright, you push it away, and
once you release it and you seewhy you were holding that on,
everything is in alignment.
You know whether?
it's like a woman desperatelytrying to get pregnant, obsessed
with those ideas.
And once it's released, in thesame way, you know, and she's at
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peace, with exactly everythingin the blocks removed,
everything occurs and it's.
It's amazing we can do thatwith hypnotherapy too.
I know for me.
I went to university for 14years and so I have this
analytical side here, this spinit's, it's balancing that and
removing that when I need to,and yeah, and I feel like I went
(42:14):
for too long, and it's like awhole battle trying to remove a
lot of that thinking and thatprogramming and finding the
balance between the two and Ithink, yeah, yeah, but that was
meant to be that you did these,the amazing that you did for 10
years.
Sarah Jane Smith (42:30):
But what you'll find it wasn't a waste of
time, because what you'll findis everything.
It's like dot connectingeverything.
Everything you've done,michelle has value.
Everything you've done,definitely definitely picking up
on oh, I learned this and Ilearned that.
So we need people like you.
It isn't the sarah smith show,I always make jokes about that.
No, we need.
Do we need doctors?
Yes, we do.
The ones that question like youdo we need surgeons?
(42:53):
Yes, of course you do.
What was the question?
Do we need reiki homeopathy?
Me, look, it's all of ustogether, it's not just me and
it's not just you.
Exactly, all of us, vax on, vax, whatever, come over to the
same side and unify.
We all need each other, youknow, and we should me and the
medical crew and everything befighting?
(43:14):
No, we should not be fighting.
We're all on the same team,coming together.
That's really, really, reallyimportant, because we have the
one goal, or we should have theone goal that's helping people,
and people will decide, yes,yeah, yeah, exactly.
And and I think maybe we neededthe last four years for people
to truly, you know, wipe thescales from their eyes and
(43:34):
really see what's going on.
Like you said, michelle, that'sthat's brilliant the way you
put it you trust yourself.
Forget about that.
Trust yourself.
Forget about that.
Trust yourself.
We all had an intuition and agut feeling and everything.
We will get through thistogether.
But I always said when Iadvertised on David Icke and
other places and do interviews,let the people decide.
They can choose me or they cansay we don't like her, this
(43:57):
isn't for us, and then choosesomething or somebody else.
Dr. Michele Burklund (44:01):
But you should be questioning everything
right and all of us should bequestioning.
And I I get so many patientstoo that come in and say, you
know, like the doctor said,statistically this is going to
happen in my illness or this,and they hold on to it so deep
and they own that, and then itgoes into their body rather than
(44:24):
listening to themselves andsaying does this, is this right
for me, you know?
And and this is where I lovehypnotherapy so much, and
recommending it to my patientsis to release all of those
things, cause they always ask meto I'll be like, okay, well, we
can see that there's anassociation here or there's a
block here, and then the nextpart is how do we get rid of it?
(44:45):
And so, yeah, it's a verypowerful.
Sarah Jane Smith (44:48):
Yeah, and we found that we all know now that
up until now, they've beentreating, you know, the big
pharma, the doctors, they'vebeen treating the symptoms and
it's like, well, what was thecause?
I say to people, somebody says,oh, I went in for this
(45:09):
operation.
And I say, okay, what causedthat in the first place?
And they say we don't know,we're just, we're just going to
have the symptoms.
okay, well, something else isgoing to happen to you now
something else is probably goingto happen to your body, because
the body is giving you messages.
It's you hello, we're trying toget through to you.
And I remember Dolores sayingbut why do you need to use pain
when you're being given themessage to your body?
(45:29):
And they said because you'renot going to ignore pain, now
you're going to have to addresswhatever you're going through
and they have very literal,literal meanings.
You know, I used to haveproblems with my voice and my
vocal cord and they say well,what?
What truth are you not speaking?
It's giving you literalmessages.
You know, the hips are movingyou forward in life, you know.
Dr. Michele Burklund (45:50):
So that's what we need to pay attention to
and we need to find the answersto move forward and so do
people come to you for specific,like medical conditions Do I
know they come in general orthey want answers or routes to
figure out where they're goingin life and and what's going on,
(46:11):
but do they come from likespecific conditions or different
things as well?
Everything?
Sarah Jane Smith (46:19):
everything, you know.
People say I've got cancer,I've got problems with my lungs.
And we, I say to the higherself, the superconscious, I say,
well, when we get to a certainpoint in the session, I say can
you do a full body scan, top ofthe head, down the body to the
tip of the toes?
And then they'll say, oh, herkidney isn't working.
They'll find out.
So suddenly people are you, youknow, qualified surgeons in
(46:41):
their own session.
They're saying yes, yes, yes.
And I say to the, the forcethat we're working with through
the client, I say how can youhelp?
Can you help them?
And I said, but why is ithappened?
And they'll say they'll tellthe client the reason.
And then they'll all say, well,can you help them?
And they'll say, yes, we'regoing to put energy in the body,
energy, energy in that organ.
They'll use lights, they'll useenergy.
(47:02):
It's always natural, you know,and I actually sometimes think I
can see these lights comingdown into the body.
You know, I actually see peopleleaving their body too, which
is quite interesting.
Also, people have been saying tome lately there's another thing
, another phenomenon thatstarted happening the last
(47:25):
almost 15 clients in a row, theystarted seeing the same city,
looking the same way, with thesame color as the same path
going up to, and looked a littlebit like the Wizard of Oz, and
they started seeing a particularcolor of a gem.
And when I said, what does thatmean, what is all this for?
They told me the same thing.
(47:45):
Let's say, for example, theysaid that's for love, the
meaning is love, and they're allsaying the same thing, in the
same way, with the same words,and I'm thinking how can almost
15 people in a row be seeing thesame thing?
Because it's the same forcecoming through all of them.
And when I see 15 people in arow saying the same things in
the same way, with the samewords, the same meaning, for me
(48:08):
that's evidence, that'sempirical evidence, and I'm
wondering how many more aregoing to see the same thing too.
So I feel, like Dolores was,that I'm being given a big
jigsaw and it's almost like eachclient are a piece of the
jigsaw and they are.
Not only is it specific answersand healing for them, but
they're giving me messages to toput in another book, and I have
(48:33):
material now for probably threebooks.
There's so much.
But they're telling me thatthis is, this is the future
we're going to have, and they'reall seeing it in the same way.
I just don't want to let thecat out of the bag too much,
because I want to see how manymore are seeing the same thing.
And they're telling me thatthis particular gem and color
(48:53):
and stone is very important forwhat we're doing, the answers
and the healing and and the work.
So, um, how can they all beseeing and saying the same thing
?
It's, it's it.
It blows my mind as well, and Ihave it all on the recordings
as well as proof.
Yeah, so so it blows their mindtoo, because everybody wakes up
(49:14):
and says I made that all up.
And I say, yeah, you and theother 15 made it all up, yeah
yeah, so it's not possible hardto argue it's it.
Yeah, it's not possible.
So, um, the things that I'm,the common denominator and all
with all of this work, with allof this information, and it's
just blowing my mind and I sitand I smile and I go, we're on
(49:35):
to something here.
It's just proving to me thatthis is all real and it is all
really happening.
Dr. Michele Burklund (49:40):
Yeah, yeah , amazing yeah, you really do
some powerful work they say.
Sarah Jane Smith (49:49):
They say it isn't really me doing it.
I think I always point up.
I say it's them.
Okay, I don't give anybodyadvice or answers.
I'll give you anecdotal storiesabout myself, but you're not
here to get advice from me.
I can'll give you anecdotalstories about myself, but you're
not here to get advice from me.
I can't tell you what they'regoing to tell you.
It's mind blowing.
You know, I could never come upwith that it blows my mind when
(50:09):
I hear it too.
But they've said that they willonly work with specific people.
They know your intention.
They know my intention towardsyou.
They know that I'm not tryingto do this for fame or fortune
or success, anything of that.
I'm generally genuinely tryingto help people.
So they will work with you know, hopefully people like me,
(50:33):
because they know I really,really, really love all the
clients and the people I workwith and I really want a result
for them, almost more than theywanted, and I will get a result.
I will keep working for themall day long.
And I say to people I'm not likeother professionals.
I cannot finish that session inthree to four hours.
(50:54):
I can't.
It might take me eight or nineor 10 hours.
That's because people need totalk a lot about their life.
But I say to people I'll offeryou unlimited hours on the day
of the session because I focusonly on one client a day.
That's how I work and that'show my sessions, all of them,
are a success.
All of them work.
And people say, well, I go under.
(51:15):
I never did before.
Yes, everybody goes.
Why?
Because you're putting yourselfunder.
I see people, their eyes arebeginning to go and I say
because you're putting yourselfunder.
I see people, their eyes arebeginning to go and I say you're
putting yourself under and theysay, yeah, I'm ready to lie
down if I, if I do them overzoom, if I have a lot of clients
in America, australia, you knowthere's a woman I'm flying over
from Taiwan next week, like 20hours, something like that.
(51:38):
She's flying in.
So for people it is sincethey've seen me on David Icke it
is extremely important and theywant to come and physically see
me face to face as well.
And I always joke with peoplebecause the people I meet from
you know that watch David Icke.
They're highly conscious,highly intelligent people and I
(51:59):
always say, look, I wouldn'thave lasted three days on David
Icke, nevermind three years,because the feedback and the
reviews and everything I'mgetting is it's mind blowing and
it's life changing and I'm veryhumbled and grateful to people
for that.
But the other thing is I hadalmost 180.
I was talking to Dr Ryan Colethe other day.
(52:19):
He's an amazing doctor andsomebody said he's got 100 and
you've only got 80 and I said,no, I had 180 google reviews but
they've taken down 100 of myreviews.
Why?
Because some of the reviewshave been by doctors and
surgeons and they've said I'm adoctor and this is mind-blowing,
I'm a surgeon, it's changed mylife forever and boom, it's gone
(52:40):
.
It's gone and google said itisn't us, it's gone, it's gone.
And Google said it isn't us,it's the algorithm, it's AI.
So why are they taking downhundreds of my reviews?
I must be doing something right, but I copy and paste them
anyway and I keep them, so thatdoesn't bother me.
I just smile and I think, well,whatever I'm doing is
threatening somebody somewhere.
So I think it's a good sign.
(53:02):
If you're not annoying somebodysomewhere, then you're doing
something wrong.
Dr. Michele Burklund (53:07):
Right, right.
Yeah, I think when you have,when you polarize and you get
people to fill a certain way,then you initiate that response
to and and yeah, that means thatsomething's moving and and yeah
, that means that something'smoving, something's changing.
Sarah Jane Smith (53:25):
Yeah, we're upsetting somebody somewhere,
but I I'm not naive, michelle, Iknew when I first started
advertising on david, like I Iwas.
I I thought to myself themajority of people are gonna,
hopefully they'll like it andthey'll want it, but you'll
always get the naysayers sayingshe's lying, she's, you know,
it's not true, it's whatever.
And I still get like the, thehit pieces written saying no no,
no, no, no.
(53:45):
You can't help people in onesession.
No, you can't help people inone session, but I do.
So there you go, you know.
How can you say that you knoweverything?
I don't think I know everythingyou know.
Socrates says wisdom is knowinghow little we know.
I don't know everything.
I don't think I know everythingyou know.
Socrates says wisdom is knowinghow little we know.
I don't know everything.
I'm learning every day, youknow.
(54:05):
But the thing is I don't giveup on people.
I work with them for the wholeday till I get a result.
That's the, that's the best Ican do.
I bring my A game to everysingle session, just like you do
.
Dr. Michele Burklund (54:19):
And and you see people around the world
like through Zoom.
So how you and I are seeingeach other today.
You can do sessions and you cango hours and hours working with
them this way as well.
Sarah Jane Smith (54:31):
Oh, yeah, I mean, I get up.
I used to do shift work.
Anyway, I'll get up at five inthe morning.
If it's somebody in Australia,because of the difference in
time zones, I get up.
I have people in Alaska andCanada and USA.
I only deal with one person aday.
So I say, yeah, I'll work withyou till you know a maximum one
in the morning.
Why?
Because I need to be fresh, Ineed to be focused, I don't want
(54:52):
to work too late, but I'll getup early in the morning and I
will adjust to that person'stime zone, no problem.
Whereas I know otherprofessionals.
They say it's 11am, london timeor nothing.
I don't want to do that becauseI don't want to say to people
it's 2am, your time.
I think they're going to fallasleep, they're going to be too
tired.
So I say, well, why don't wecompromise?
It's this time my zone and it'sthat time your zone.
(55:15):
And yeah, that's perfect forboth of us.
So I will do anytime peoplewant.
I used to joke anyone anywhere.
Anytime, I will help you, noproblem.
Yeah, that's my modus operandi.
I'm here to help.
I won't say no to anybody, youknow.
Dr. Michele Burklund (55:34):
Which is great too.
Yeah, Because I'm sure a lot ofpeople need help and there's a
lot of tough cases and thingsthat maybe other hypnotherapists
wouldn't want to take on.
So I think and just holdingyour energy all day for one
person is a beautiful thing.
Sarah Jane Smith (55:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I get it's almost like
the splashback of this theenergy and the joy and the
happiness.
So why wouldn't I go there?
I'm the luckiest person in theworld with the best job because
it's actually impacting me too.
I get the happiness and the joyand the love and just seeing
those people wake up and looklike different people and I
(56:12):
always think they look likethey're about 10 or 20 years
younger as well.
They look refreshed and awakeand they're happy.
They've got the answers.
Dr. Michele Burklund (56:30):
Yeah, no, I think that's great and I think
, yeah, there's.
So hypnosis is endless of whatit can do, like for me.
It's helped me in so manydifferent ways of removing
different beliefs and I cantarget it in and figure out what
, what I need to have removed,and I can either try it through
meditation and differentpractices.
But if I can't remove it or ifit's something very clear, I
think like especially for me,hypnosis has done wonders for
(56:50):
for things like that as well.
So I'm I'm so thankful you cancome on today and and talk to us
about it.
Sarah Jane Smith (56:58):
Oh, I'm very grateful to meet you too.
Yeah, finally, because you, youhave a wonderful story.
I was reading your bio and it'sabsolutely.
It's beautiful, it's amazing.
You're a wonderful human being.
I'm very grateful for you too.
Dr. Michele Burklund (57:12):
Thank you, Well, thank you for coming on
today.
So much, Sarah, and we'll besure to put all of your
information posted on my websiteand the podcast too, so they
can find you and and everybodycan help remove their own
blockages and and get closer tothemselves as well.
Sarah Jane Smith (57:31):
Absolutely yeah, looking forward to hearing
from everybody.
Dr. Michele Burklund (57:34):
Okay, thank you so much.
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