November 5, 2025 • 27 mins
Power without presence crumbles fast. High Conscious leadership is rooted in a regulated nervous system, clear discernment, and the courage to say “I don’t know” while still holding a strong container.
Instead of rewarding the loudest voice in the room, we look at how calm, curious guidance helps people grow and why switching from correcting to coaching deepens trust.
I share how childhood programming to be “right” fuels the urge to fix, and how that reflex isolates us on a pedestal.
I unpack the forces that keep people blindly following: conditioning, fear of rejection, the craving for certainty—and how to unhook from mass narratives without becoming cold or combative.
I also get specific about healing as leadership. Conscious forgiveness, somatic regulation, and energetic hygiene free the body from old stories so your responses match your values, not your wounds.
Triggers become teachers; perspective returns when we pause, zoom out, and choose language that empowers. Along the way, I share my own moments of control, the signals from my higher self, and how I’m stepping up across the businesses and communities I serve.
If you’re tired of performing leadership and ready to embody it—less pedestal, more presence; less certainty theater, more thoughtful action—this conversation will meet you where you are and invite you forward.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
Welcome to Unveiled, the podcast.
I'm your host, Angela Kristen,and I help you with unveiling
your true self by peeling awaythe layers that society placed
on you.
I do this with a combination ofneuroscience, energetics, and
intensive spiritual wisdom.
I went from underpaid andoverworked in corporate America
to launching a six-figurecompany that continues to grow.
(00:27):
I went from toxic relationshipsto being happy and single for
over a year as I worked andcontinue to work on becoming the
best version of myself and somuch more.
My greatest passion is to helpwomen and mothers feel,
transform, and become thehighest versions of themselves.
As I continue to grow and expandmy intuitive knowledge and
unique wisdom, I'll be includingyou on my journey to millions.
(00:50):
So let's get into it.
Hello and welcome back toUnveiled.
So today we are going to talkabout human behavior,
leadership, all the things thatwe really need to be focusing on
(01:12):
as a society and understanding.
Leadership, what I've seen, hasbeen portrayed basically as like
the loudest person in the room,the person giving orders, the
person with more power or money.
But the new leaders of thisworld are the ones who aren't
(01:36):
necessarily the loudest andlikely aren't, but the ones with
the most regulated nervoussystem, the ones who can see the
source truth.
And we definitely need theseleaders to step into their role.
And for my own leadershipjourney, I have been working on
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a couple of things that I know Ineed to shift before I'm able to
like step into this next levelof leadership.
And I did talk more about thesource truth of leadership in my
Sunday source last week.
So you can still listen to thatepisode when you sign up for
free.
It's a weekly channeling I do.
I channel in an audio format andthen I translate it into a
(02:25):
written format just so that bothpeople can see.
But the audio, I feel, isdefinitely better because you're
getting the channeling, you'regetting just other extra
information that I don't alwaysend up putting in the written
form.
So if you want to really exploreyour own leadership, all of
that, I would highly recommendlistening to that one last week.
(02:48):
Something that comes up for me,and I know I'm not alone here,
is this inner compulsion I haveto correct people, to clarify,
to make sure people get thingsright.
And when I'm doing it, I amdoing it from a place of love
because I care so deeply.
(03:08):
It obviously depends on thesubject, but I know this stems
from childhood things, just likemy programming, all of that.
I always felt like I got myexternal validation from being
an A plus student, from being agood dancer, from doing all
these things, right?
So I always wanted to get thingsright.
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And then I have this feeling ofdiscomfort when I see someone
sharing something that I knowisn't accurate.
And instead of being that personwho's like, you're actually
wrong.
That's not how it's supposed tobe.
I know that's not the leadershipwe need, right?
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Because do we like people whocorrect us and our know-it-alls?
Not typically, right?
Correcting people doesn't buildrespect and doesn't build a
mutual feeling of caring, right?
Even if the inner compulsioncomes from a place of caring,
it's going to feel likecriticism and it will build
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distance.
It can also put you on apedestal where people might
think, oh, well, she's the onlyone who knows everything, right?
Like I'm sure you've done thatwith someone.
I've definitely done that withpeople.
But the issue with that is it'sisolating up there, right?
And it might look shiny on theoutside, but then you're no
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longer seen as an equal.
You're seen as someone above.
And I don't want to be someonewho has who is seen above.
There is a difference withknowledge, right?
I do have a lot of soulknowledge and lifetime knowledge
of dark forces, for example.
It's something I have carriedwith me in many, many lifetimes.
And it's something I do know alot more about than the average
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person, but even the averagespiritual person.
That doesn't make me better thanthem.
It's just my area of expertise,wisdom, focus, right?
Someone else's is somethingelse.
Like I will go to my best friendwhen I have questions about
business structure, offers, allof that.
Because yes, I might know someof it, but it doesn't really
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light me up to dive into all ofthat.
And she can just get downloadsso quickly around that topic.
So we all have our areas ofexpertise.
We all have something to giveeach other, right?
So there's no need to put peopleon a pedestal.
And in this era that we're in,we need leaders who don't want
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to be up on that pedestal.
I want to be someone that peoplefeel safe enough to grow around,
to ask me questions.
I mean, if I showed you mytelegram chat every day with
dark force questions, I love itthough.
I will sit and drink my coffeeand I will just go through and
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answer people's questions.
It's something that lights meup.
And I do want to help peopleunderstand dark forces, right?
And there are correcttechniques.
It's not like it's somethingthat you can just go and I mean,
you could try to make up, makeit up on your own and play with
that.
It's just gonna take you a lotlonger than knowing the actual
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steps, right?
Because there's a lot of nuanceswith dark forces.
It's also very much, it's not aone size fits all.
It's very dependent on theperson, all of that.
I also see this role, thisleadership role in my mentorship
structure, right?
So I have amazing women in mymentorship program who I'm
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helping them dial in theirintuition, their reflections.
And instead of just giving themanswers, or instead of just
instead of correcting them, I'mpracticing more coaching and
curiosity, right?
Because if I just give them theanswers, that's not going to
help them dial in theirtechniques, right?
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So instead of just swooping inthere and saving them with the
right answer, I'm giving themspace to find it on their own,
but then also like guiding themthere, right?
I want to lead from a place ofempowerment and activation.
I want to activate people.
I want people to see how amazingthey are, right?
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And it's just sometimes you justneed a little bit of coaching or
guidance, just like I do too.
You know, we all do.
We're all just at differentlevels.
And so this has not been easy.
This has not been an easy thingfor me.
I am not going to even lie.
I'm a Virgo, Capricorn,Capricorn.
My past, you know, all thetrauma of my past, I've
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neutralized, yes, yes.
But because of all of thatprogramming from the trauma, I
still have this desire tocontrol.
And thank God I'm able to chatwith my higher self because she
is just an amazing guide.
And she really helps me.
(08:14):
She knows that I meant to stepinto this leadership role.
And to do that, we got to do alittle bit of work.
So my mentor also told merecently it is time for me to
step into this role ofleadership, to understand, even
at a more detailed level, humanbehavior, which I already do
have a lot of knowledge andwisdom about human behavior
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because of my studies, becauseof my soul knowledge, all of
that.
But that these things are goingto be really key for what the
world needs right now.
So part of leadership is askingpowerful questions, right?
It's about holding space forother people to rise without
needing to position myself abovethem.
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And when we're constantlycorrecting people, yeah, we
might earn some admiration, butadmiration isn't intimacy.
And it's kind of hard to leadpeople if you're disconnected
from them, right?
And here's the thing as I'mdiving into even more, I want to
understand human nature from amacro perspective as well.
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Like how our world has gotten towhere it is, especially in the
last, like, I would say five toten years.
Because people, humans, are notprogrammed to lead.
They are programmed to follow.
Not because they're weak, notbecause they're lazy, but
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because that's how the systemwas designed.
If you think about it, from themoment that we're born, we are
taught who to listen to, what tobelieve, how to behave.
We even have Santa Claus and allthese crazy people watching us
all the time, what's right,what's wrong.
We're rewarded for obedience,we're punished for questioning.
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So of course, we grow upoutsourcing authority to
anything that promisescertainty, whether it's the
government, the media, the, inquotations, expert, or even the
partner who seems more confidentthan us, right?
Human behavior is not random.
It's actually driven by deepevolutionary patterns, such as
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wanting to belong, fear ofrejection, and wanting
stability.
And unless you startunderstanding these patterns,
and unless you become aware ofthe unconscious forces shaping
your reaction, which can be yourthoughts, behavior, and also can
be dark forces, right?
You'll keep defaulting to whatfeels safe, even if it keeps you
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stuck.
This is why so many people arelike, I've done so much work.
Why aren't things changing?
Because they're not changing theunconscious forces.
And this is why we need leadersright now who aren't just
strategic or smart, but leaderswho have actually done the
freaking work, right?
We don't need more leaders onstage jumping around, dancing
around, or showing off on socialmedia.
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We need leaders who haveunhooked themselves from the
hypnosis of the masses, right?
The hypnosis of the hierarchy,leaders who know how to regulate
their nervous system, especiallywhen everyone else is spiraling.
Because if you don't understandyour own behavior, you will be
ruled by someone else's.
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And if you don't understand thebehavior of others, you'll
either start to resent them,you'll try to control them, or
you'll blindly follow them.
And none of those areleadership, right?
So as people are making theirway to their soul pull, like I
see a lot of people in mycommunity making their way to
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their soul pull, but then theyfall into emotional traps around
needing to be liked or the urgeto fix or micromanage or the
fear of uh confrontation, thatkind of stuff, right?
And then they can get kind ofstuck at that level.
And so I'm doing somethingreally uncomfortable right now,
which a lot of people won't do.
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A lot of people will not pushthrough their discomfort because
humans want to be comfortableand they want to feel safe and
they want to feel certain,right?
And this is why we have ended upwhere we're at right now.
And I am gonna dive more intothis in my membership.
I don't know that it's somethingI'll start talking about right
(12:38):
now on my podcast.
Maybe we'll see, but it'sdefinitely something I'm going
to start diving more into in mymembership is the history of the
way that we have given our poweraway.
We have literally given so muchpower away, and we're really on
the edge right now of completelylike handing all of our power
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over, and it's actually quiteterrifying.
But source would see it asperfect.
I see it as a little, my humanself sees it as a little
terrifying because we areliterally just there's a lot of
people that are still not wakingup, and there's about 30% of
people who they're not going towake up from this mass hypnosis
(13:25):
that we've been put under.
And I remember the day I brokeout of that hypnosis.
It was in 2014.
And until then, I was very muchunder the same hypnosis that
they're under, but I was able tobreak out, and ever since then,
I have been on this path.
So high conscious leadershipbegins when we see the patterns
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in ourselves, in our lineage, inour culture, and then we
consciously decide to shiftthem.
It's moving from a reactivechild regulated adult.
And I will tell you, I stillhave moments where I get
annoyed, even though I know it'sa reflection, right?
So today there was an incidentwhere someone did something,
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they don't even know that itbothered me.
And I got really angry.
And I asked my higher self,should I say something to this
person?
And I got, no, thank God,because I also had some dark
forces on me.
So I was like, damn it.
Okay, I'm gonna, I know it's areflection, I know I need to
look into this.
And then I asked my higher self,but why?
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It's like, why did this happen?
And she was like, use it.
Use this to grow, use it to helpothers, right?
So anytime we get triggered,there's something there for us.
When we react immediately fromanger and from fear, we're
essentially acting like afive-year-old, six-year-old,
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right?
And then we get tunnel vision,it's our logical brain shuts
off.
It's really hard to see thebigger perspective.
And I actually had a differentsituation happen yesterday where
I asked my higher self for someguidance on what to do.
I was feeling, I don't evenremember what the situation was.
I was feeling annoyed aboutyesterday.
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And luckily I have dialed inintuition and I asked my higher
self, can you show me what isgoing on?
And she showed me this cat, andit was just walking very
carefully, and then it climbedup a tree and it stood up there
and looked down, and I was like,Oh, I need to see the bigger
perspective of this.
And that's exactly what happenedtoday, too, because after I
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dealt with my reaction, which Ijust see as my like inner
five-year-old, to be honest,when I want to scream and I want
to react, I know it's my childself, and I'm just very
sympathetic towards her.
I get it.
But then, so I just calmed herdown and then I dealt with my
dark forces.
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And then I was like, oh, okay.
Now I can see the biggerperspective here.
It's really not that big of adeal.
Yes, it's a little bit annoyingfrom a human perspective, but my
higher self is doing me a favorby showing me the pieces of my
ego that are still needing to beshifted, right?
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And it's not about likecompletely killing off my ego,
but it is noticing patterns.
It's noticing what is triggeringme.
And this just happened to bewhere, you know, I wanted things
in a certain way and it didn'thappen.
And what's hilarious is as achild, I was very much that way
as well.
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I would have friends come overand I would say, Well, I get to
decide what we're doing todaybecause it's my house.
And then when I would go totheir house, I'd say, Well, I'm
the guest, so I get to decidewhat we're doing today.
So I was very into control, evenat a young age.
But control is not empoweringleadership, right?
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And so I know that.
And my higher self is helping mereally shift it.
And she's really making it loud,let me tell you, this last week,
showing me where I'm stillneeding to shift.
And so that's what I love doingfor myself and for my clients is
helping them go from follower tothe intuitive guide of their
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life.
I am not practicing perfectleadership.
I am practicing leadership withpresence, right?
Not performance, not jumping onstage and dancing around or any
of that kind of stuff, butembodiment.
Even when it's uncomfortable,even when I still want to be
right, even when I want to tellsomeone they're doing something
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wrong or just give someone theanswer because it's easier.
I see the bigger picture.
I can see because I want better.
I want better for me, I wantbetter for them, I want better
for you.
The truth is that most humansare kind of living on the
surface.
They're not going deep.
They are reacting emotionally towhat people are saying and
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doing, and that's what they'vebeen shown, right?
But in doing so, they'resettling for easy and convenient
and uh lacking depth.
Because depth is when you diveinto why, right?
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Why did I get annoyed there?
Why did I get angry there?
Um, why does this still triggerme?
I had someone reach out to merecently.
She had been through some verysevere physical abuse and had
heard my story, and I hadn'trealized this until I until I
started talking to her.
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But yes, I had neutralized thetrauma with abuse.
And I, you know, see my ex, Igive him a hug, I have no ill
will towards him at all.
But what I realized lookingback, because she asked me,
Well, how did you start?
How did you start to heal it?
And I realized I started withconscious forgiveness.
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I decided one day I'm done.
I literally fell to my knees andI was like, I am done being a
victim.
I'm done having people feel badfor me.
I I'm done.
And I didn't even know what thenext steps looked like, but I
prayed and it was very clear inthe next few days.
That was back in 2017, 2017, 18.
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But in 2016, I had started myforgiveness, right?
I had started channeling.
I didn't even know what I wasdoing, but I was channeling ways
to forgive and trying alldifferent kinds of things.
And even there was some timeafter I had chosen to forgive
versus completely neutralizingit, where it felt really
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uncomfortable because I hadforgiven him on a conscious
level, but my body hadn'tforgiven him.
My body was still reacting tothe trauma.
My body was still replaying itin my mind at night.
So I had to figure out how do Iget this out of my body?
Right.
And so that's where a lot of mynervous system regulation,
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unconscious reprogramming camefrom, and then emotional
mastery, and then energeticwork, right?
So I can actually go back intime and actually fix it now,
but I also make sure to do allof the other work as well.
And that's not the easy path.
It's not the path most peoplewill go down.
Most people will choose to justrant on Facebook.
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I've been there.
I'm not judging.
I've definitely been there.
But most people just wouldrather rant on Facebook and get
people to feel sorry for them orbad for them.
But something I read in a bookthat my mentor recommended to me
called The Laws of Human Nature,something that was said in there
made so much sense.
Being able to understand thestranger within would help us to
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realize that it's actually not astranger at all, but very much a
part of ourselves.
And yes, it's complex.
Yes, it's mysterious.
But once you kind of understandhow it all fits together, how
the unconscious and theconscious come together, how the
energetic and the spiritual andthe physical all blend together,
then it becomes less of amystery and more just about
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awareness, right?
Because the fact is, most peopleare reacting from emotions from
childhood.
They don't even really know whythey're acting or reacting
certain ways.
If you were to ask them, theymight say a surface-level
answer, but it's actually deeperthan that.
And again, going back to thebook, it says, let us call the
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collection of these forces thatpush and pull at us from deep
within human nature.
I'm very careful with the booksthat I read because I haven't
found a book that is like 100%source truth, right?
So you have to be able todiscern what is source truth,
what isn't.
I have dialed in intuition so Ican do that.
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But the book, I'll link it inthe show notes.
So far, I haven't gotten toofar.
It's a very big book.
So far, it makes a lot of sense.
It does leave out obviously theenergetic, the dark forces, all
of that, like the reflectivecomponents, right?
So there is a lot happening.
But if we all just like tookmore time to pause before
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reacting and considering, likeinstead of seeing the person as
someone who's annoying me, I'mlike, okay, what is she teaching
me right now?
Or what is he teaching me rightnow?
It'll help you not onlyunderstand yourself, but others.
And that's what we need for thishigh conscious leader, right?
We need more high consciousleadership.
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And the other book that mymentor recommended is called The
21 Irrefutable Laws ofLeadership.
So I'm also diving into that.
If you want to join me on thisjourney, I will of course be
bringing all the source truth tothese books and what I teach in
my membership, but it's justtime.
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Like on the Sunday Source, Ikind of broke down all the
different rules of leadershipthat I'm already doing that I
hadn't really even thought ofuntil Source showed me.
But, you know, I'm running twocompanies.
I have a CFO business where I'ma leader.
I have a, I have my soul pullbusiness where I'm a healer
intuitive leader, my podcast,I'm leading my podcast, I'm a
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single mother leading mychildren, leading friends,
leading mentorship groups, allof that, right?
So I'm already doing a lot ofleadership roles, but it's time
for me, and I'm accepting thisinvitation to step up.
So if you have also foundyourself exhausted by being the
person who always has to hold itall together, to know
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everything, to have all theanswers, feeling the weight of
being responsible for so muchand other people's emotions.
If you've been tempted to justcontrol, correct, fix, not
because you're unkind, but justbecause somewhere along the way,
you were taught that certaintyequals safety.
And this is something that alsocomes up in my romantic
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relationships.
If anything feels uncertain, Istart to question everything.
So it is very much a programthat just needs to be rewired.
So if that is you, if you canrelate to any of that, I see
you.
And there is another way.
You don't have to prove yourworth through perfection.
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You don't have to earn respectby always being right.
You don't have to carry theweight of the world to be worthy
of leading it.
Side note, I just went and had amassage because my upper right
shoulder area has been in somuch pain.
And when I looked at thereflective piece, it was very
much because I felt like I wascarrying the weight of the
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world, that I needed to saveeverybody, that I needed to come
up with all of these solutionsovernight.
And of course, working throughthat energetically, and then
also taking the physical actionof getting a massage.
It's, I would say, 90% betterright now.
So true leadership, highconscious.
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I should, I should say, highconscious, true leadership isn't
about knowing everything, it'sabout being willing to know
yourself deeply to witness yourown patterns, programs, beliefs,
and choose something different.
And it's also about being ableto tell, you know, people that
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you're leading, if you don'tknow the answer to something,
it's okay to say, I don't know,let me check.
I have no problem.
That is one thing I don't have,I've never felt embarrassed to
do.
If I don't know something, Iwill say, I don't know.
Let me think about it or let mecheck with so-and-so or
whatever.
The world doesn't need morerulers or dictators, right?
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The world needs high consciousleaders who are willing to take
a step back to look within, tolook around, and to choose
what's in the best interest ofall.
And I will end this by sayingthe people that we are
programmed to hate in the mediaare often the ones who are
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actually the light beings.
That is part of the programming.
I will leave that there for now.
I hope this resonated with you.
Just wanted to remind you ofwhat's possible when we choose
presence over power.
And you were not brought here tofollow, you are here to lead
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from within.
So sending you so much love.
Bye.
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Welcome to Unveiled, the podcast.
I'm your host, Angela Kristen,and I help you with unveiling
your true self by peeling awaythe layers that society placed
on you.
I do this with a combination ofneuroscience, energetics, and
intensive spiritual wisdom.
I went from underpaid andoverworked in corporate America
to launching a six-figurecompany that continues to grow.
(00:27):
I went from toxic relationshipsto being happy and single for
over a year as I worked andcontinue to work on becoming the
best version of myself and somuch more.
My greatest passion is to helpwomen and mothers feel,
transform, and become thehighest versions of themselves.
As I continue to grow and expandmy intuitive knowledge and
unique wisdom, I'll be includingyou on my journey to millions.
(00:50):
So let's get into it.
Hello and welcome back toUnveiled.
So today we are going to talkabout human behavior,
leadership, all the things thatwe really need to be focusing on
(01:12):
as a society and understanding.
Leadership, what I've seen, hasbeen portrayed basically as like
the loudest person in the room,the person giving orders, the
person with more power or money.
But the new leaders of thisworld are the ones who aren't
(01:36):
necessarily the loudest andlikely aren't, but the ones with
the most regulated nervoussystem, the ones who can see the
source truth.
And we definitely need theseleaders to step into their role.
And for my own leadershipjourney, I have been working on
(02:00):
a couple of things that I know Ineed to shift before I'm able to
like step into this next levelof leadership.
And I did talk more about thesource truth of leadership in my
Sunday source last week.
So you can still listen to thatepisode when you sign up for
free.
It's a weekly channeling I do.
I channel in an audio format andthen I translate it into a
(02:25):
written format just so that bothpeople can see.
But the audio, I feel, isdefinitely better because you're
getting the channeling, you'regetting just other extra
information that I don't alwaysend up putting in the written
form.
So if you want to really exploreyour own leadership, all of
that, I would highly recommendlistening to that one last week.
(02:48):
Something that comes up for me,and I know I'm not alone here,
is this inner compulsion I haveto correct people, to clarify,
to make sure people get thingsright.
And when I'm doing it, I amdoing it from a place of love
because I care so deeply.
(03:08):
It obviously depends on thesubject, but I know this stems
from childhood things, just likemy programming, all of that.
I always felt like I got myexternal validation from being
an A plus student, from being agood dancer, from doing all
these things, right?
So I always wanted to get thingsright.
(03:29):
And then I have this feeling ofdiscomfort when I see someone
sharing something that I knowisn't accurate.
And instead of being that personwho's like, you're actually
wrong.
That's not how it's supposed tobe.
I know that's not the leadershipwe need, right?
(03:51):
Because do we like people whocorrect us and our know-it-alls?
Not typically, right?
Correcting people doesn't buildrespect and doesn't build a
mutual feeling of caring, right?
Even if the inner compulsioncomes from a place of caring,
it's going to feel likecriticism and it will build
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distance.
It can also put you on apedestal where people might
think, oh, well, she's the onlyone who knows everything, right?
Like I'm sure you've done thatwith someone.
I've definitely done that withpeople.
But the issue with that is it'sisolating up there, right?
And it might look shiny on theoutside, but then you're no
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longer seen as an equal.
You're seen as someone above.
And I don't want to be someonewho has who is seen above.
There is a difference withknowledge, right?
I do have a lot of soulknowledge and lifetime knowledge
of dark forces, for example.
It's something I have carriedwith me in many, many lifetimes.
And it's something I do know alot more about than the average
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person, but even the averagespiritual person.
That doesn't make me better thanthem.
It's just my area of expertise,wisdom, focus, right?
Someone else's is somethingelse.
Like I will go to my best friendwhen I have questions about
business structure, offers, allof that.
Because yes, I might know someof it, but it doesn't really
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light me up to dive into all ofthat.
And she can just get downloadsso quickly around that topic.
So we all have our areas ofexpertise.
We all have something to giveeach other, right?
So there's no need to put peopleon a pedestal.
And in this era that we're in,we need leaders who don't want
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to be up on that pedestal.
I want to be someone that peoplefeel safe enough to grow around,
to ask me questions.
I mean, if I showed you mytelegram chat every day with
dark force questions, I love itthough.
I will sit and drink my coffeeand I will just go through and
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answer people's questions.
It's something that lights meup.
And I do want to help peopleunderstand dark forces, right?
And there are correcttechniques.
It's not like it's somethingthat you can just go and I mean,
you could try to make up, makeit up on your own and play with
that.
It's just gonna take you a lotlonger than knowing the actual
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steps, right?
Because there's a lot of nuanceswith dark forces.
It's also very much, it's not aone size fits all.
It's very dependent on theperson, all of that.
I also see this role, thisleadership role in my mentorship
structure, right?
So I have amazing women in mymentorship program who I'm
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helping them dial in theirintuition, their reflections.
And instead of just giving themanswers, or instead of just
instead of correcting them, I'mpracticing more coaching and
curiosity, right?
Because if I just give them theanswers, that's not going to
help them dial in theirtechniques, right?
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So instead of just swooping inthere and saving them with the
right answer, I'm giving themspace to find it on their own,
but then also like guiding themthere, right?
I want to lead from a place ofempowerment and activation.
I want to activate people.
I want people to see how amazingthey are, right?
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And it's just sometimes you justneed a little bit of coaching or
guidance, just like I do too.
You know, we all do.
We're all just at differentlevels.
And so this has not been easy.
This has not been an easy thingfor me.
I am not going to even lie.
I'm a Virgo, Capricorn,Capricorn.
My past, you know, all thetrauma of my past, I've
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neutralized, yes, yes.
But because of all of thatprogramming from the trauma, I
still have this desire tocontrol.
And thank God I'm able to chatwith my higher self because she
is just an amazing guide.
And she really helps me.
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She knows that I meant to stepinto this leadership role.
And to do that, we got to do alittle bit of work.
So my mentor also told merecently it is time for me to
step into this role ofleadership, to understand, even
at a more detailed level, humanbehavior, which I already do
have a lot of knowledge andwisdom about human behavior
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because of my studies, becauseof my soul knowledge, all of
that.
But that these things are goingto be really key for what the
world needs right now.
So part of leadership is askingpowerful questions, right?
It's about holding space forother people to rise without
needing to position myself abovethem.
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And when we're constantlycorrecting people, yeah, we
might earn some admiration, butadmiration isn't intimacy.
And it's kind of hard to leadpeople if you're disconnected
from them, right?
And here's the thing as I'mdiving into even more, I want to
understand human nature from amacro perspective as well.
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Like how our world has gotten towhere it is, especially in the
last, like, I would say five toten years.
Because people, humans, are notprogrammed to lead.
They are programmed to follow.
Not because they're weak, notbecause they're lazy, but
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because that's how the systemwas designed.
If you think about it, from themoment that we're born, we are
taught who to listen to, what tobelieve, how to behave.
We even have Santa Claus and allthese crazy people watching us
all the time, what's right,what's wrong.
We're rewarded for obedience,we're punished for questioning.
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So of course, we grow upoutsourcing authority to
anything that promisescertainty, whether it's the
government, the media, the, inquotations, expert, or even the
partner who seems more confidentthan us, right?
Human behavior is not random.
It's actually driven by deepevolutionary patterns, such as
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wanting to belong, fear ofrejection, and wanting
stability.
And unless you startunderstanding these patterns,
and unless you become aware ofthe unconscious forces shaping
your reaction, which can be yourthoughts, behavior, and also can
be dark forces, right?
You'll keep defaulting to whatfeels safe, even if it keeps you
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stuck.
This is why so many people arelike, I've done so much work.
Why aren't things changing?
Because they're not changing theunconscious forces.
And this is why we need leadersright now who aren't just
strategic or smart, but leaderswho have actually done the
freaking work, right?
We don't need more leaders onstage jumping around, dancing
around, or showing off on socialmedia.
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We need leaders who haveunhooked themselves from the
hypnosis of the masses, right?
The hypnosis of the hierarchy,leaders who know how to regulate
their nervous system, especiallywhen everyone else is spiraling.
Because if you don't understandyour own behavior, you will be
ruled by someone else's.
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And if you don't understand thebehavior of others, you'll
either start to resent them,you'll try to control them, or
you'll blindly follow them.
And none of those areleadership, right?
So as people are making theirway to their soul pull, like I
see a lot of people in mycommunity making their way to
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their soul pull, but then theyfall into emotional traps around
needing to be liked or the urgeto fix or micromanage or the
fear of uh confrontation, thatkind of stuff, right?
And then they can get kind ofstuck at that level.
And so I'm doing somethingreally uncomfortable right now,
which a lot of people won't do.
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A lot of people will not pushthrough their discomfort because
humans want to be comfortableand they want to feel safe and
they want to feel certain,right?
And this is why we have ended upwhere we're at right now.
And I am gonna dive more intothis in my membership.
I don't know that it's somethingI'll start talking about right
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now on my podcast.
Maybe we'll see, but it'sdefinitely something I'm going
to start diving more into in mymembership is the history of the
way that we have given our poweraway.
We have literally given so muchpower away, and we're really on
the edge right now of completelylike handing all of our power
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over, and it's actually quiteterrifying.
But source would see it asperfect.
I see it as a little, my humanself sees it as a little
terrifying because we areliterally just there's a lot of
people that are still not wakingup, and there's about 30% of
people who they're not going towake up from this mass hypnosis
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that we've been put under.
And I remember the day I brokeout of that hypnosis.
It was in 2014.
And until then, I was very muchunder the same hypnosis that
they're under, but I was able tobreak out, and ever since then,
I have been on this path.
So high conscious leadershipbegins when we see the patterns
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in ourselves, in our lineage, inour culture, and then we
consciously decide to shiftthem.
It's moving from a reactivechild regulated adult.
And I will tell you, I stillhave moments where I get
annoyed, even though I know it'sa reflection, right?
So today there was an incidentwhere someone did something,
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they don't even know that itbothered me.
And I got really angry.
And I asked my higher self,should I say something to this
person?
And I got, no, thank God,because I also had some dark
forces on me.
So I was like, damn it.
Okay, I'm gonna, I know it's areflection, I know I need to
look into this.
And then I asked my higher self,but why?
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It's like, why did this happen?
And she was like, use it.
Use this to grow, use it to helpothers, right?
So anytime we get triggered,there's something there for us.
When we react immediately fromanger and from fear, we're
essentially acting like afive-year-old, six-year-old,
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right?
And then we get tunnel vision,it's our logical brain shuts
off.
It's really hard to see thebigger perspective.
And I actually had a differentsituation happen yesterday where
I asked my higher self for someguidance on what to do.
I was feeling, I don't evenremember what the situation was.
I was feeling annoyed aboutyesterday.
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And luckily I have dialed inintuition and I asked my higher
self, can you show me what isgoing on?
And she showed me this cat, andit was just walking very
carefully, and then it climbedup a tree and it stood up there
and looked down, and I was like,Oh, I need to see the bigger
perspective of this.
And that's exactly what happenedtoday, too, because after I
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dealt with my reaction, which Ijust see as my like inner
five-year-old, to be honest,when I want to scream and I want
to react, I know it's my childself, and I'm just very
sympathetic towards her.
I get it.
But then, so I just calmed herdown and then I dealt with my
dark forces.
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And then I was like, oh, okay.
Now I can see the biggerperspective here.
It's really not that big of adeal.
Yes, it's a little bit annoyingfrom a human perspective, but my
higher self is doing me a favorby showing me the pieces of my
ego that are still needing to beshifted, right?
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And it's not about likecompletely killing off my ego,
but it is noticing patterns.
It's noticing what is triggeringme.
And this just happened to bewhere, you know, I wanted things
in a certain way and it didn'thappen.
And what's hilarious is as achild, I was very much that way
as well.
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I would have friends come overand I would say, Well, I get to
decide what we're doing todaybecause it's my house.
And then when I would go totheir house, I'd say, Well, I'm
the guest, so I get to decidewhat we're doing today.
So I was very into control, evenat a young age.
But control is not empoweringleadership, right?
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And so I know that.
And my higher self is helping mereally shift it.
And she's really making it loud,let me tell you, this last week,
showing me where I'm stillneeding to shift.
And so that's what I love doingfor myself and for my clients is
helping them go from follower tothe intuitive guide of their
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life.
I am not practicing perfectleadership.
I am practicing leadership withpresence, right?
Not performance, not jumping onstage and dancing around or any
of that kind of stuff, butembodiment.
Even when it's uncomfortable,even when I still want to be
right, even when I want to tellsomeone they're doing something
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wrong or just give someone theanswer because it's easier.
I see the bigger picture.
I can see because I want better.
I want better for me, I wantbetter for them, I want better
for you.
The truth is that most humansare kind of living on the
surface.
They're not going deep.
They are reacting emotionally towhat people are saying and
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doing, and that's what they'vebeen shown, right?
But in doing so, they'resettling for easy and convenient
and uh lacking depth.
Because depth is when you diveinto why, right?
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Why did I get annoyed there?
Why did I get angry there?
Um, why does this still triggerme?
I had someone reach out to merecently.
She had been through some verysevere physical abuse and had
heard my story, and I hadn'trealized this until I until I
started talking to her.
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But yes, I had neutralized thetrauma with abuse.
And I, you know, see my ex, Igive him a hug, I have no ill
will towards him at all.
But what I realized lookingback, because she asked me,
Well, how did you start?
How did you start to heal it?
And I realized I started withconscious forgiveness.
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I decided one day I'm done.
I literally fell to my knees andI was like, I am done being a
victim.
I'm done having people feel badfor me.
I I'm done.
And I didn't even know what thenext steps looked like, but I
prayed and it was very clear inthe next few days.
That was back in 2017, 2017, 18.
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But in 2016, I had started myforgiveness, right?
I had started channeling.
I didn't even know what I wasdoing, but I was channeling ways
to forgive and trying alldifferent kinds of things.
And even there was some timeafter I had chosen to forgive
versus completely neutralizingit, where it felt really
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uncomfortable because I hadforgiven him on a conscious
level, but my body hadn'tforgiven him.
My body was still reacting tothe trauma.
My body was still replaying itin my mind at night.
So I had to figure out how do Iget this out of my body?
Right.
And so that's where a lot of mynervous system regulation,
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unconscious reprogramming camefrom, and then emotional
mastery, and then energeticwork, right?
So I can actually go back intime and actually fix it now,
but I also make sure to do allof the other work as well.
And that's not the easy path.
It's not the path most peoplewill go down.
Most people will choose to justrant on Facebook.
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I've been there.
I'm not judging.
I've definitely been there.
But most people just wouldrather rant on Facebook and get
people to feel sorry for them orbad for them.
But something I read in a bookthat my mentor recommended to me
called The Laws of Human Nature,something that was said in there
made so much sense.
Being able to understand thestranger within would help us to
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realize that it's actually not astranger at all, but very much a
part of ourselves.
And yes, it's complex.
Yes, it's mysterious.
But once you kind of understandhow it all fits together, how
the unconscious and theconscious come together, how the
energetic and the spiritual andthe physical all blend together,
then it becomes less of amystery and more just about
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awareness, right?
Because the fact is, most peopleare reacting from emotions from
childhood.
They don't even really know whythey're acting or reacting
certain ways.
If you were to ask them, theymight say a surface-level
answer, but it's actually deeperthan that.
And again, going back to thebook, it says, let us call the
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collection of these forces thatpush and pull at us from deep
within human nature.
I'm very careful with the booksthat I read because I haven't
found a book that is like 100%source truth, right?
So you have to be able todiscern what is source truth,
what isn't.
I have dialed in intuition so Ican do that.
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But the book, I'll link it inthe show notes.
So far, I haven't gotten toofar.
It's a very big book.
So far, it makes a lot of sense.
It does leave out obviously theenergetic, the dark forces, all
of that, like the reflectivecomponents, right?
So there is a lot happening.
But if we all just like tookmore time to pause before
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reacting and considering, likeinstead of seeing the person as
someone who's annoying me, I'mlike, okay, what is she teaching
me right now?
Or what is he teaching me rightnow?
It'll help you not onlyunderstand yourself, but others.
And that's what we need for thishigh conscious leader, right?
We need more high consciousleadership.
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And the other book that mymentor recommended is called The
21 Irrefutable Laws ofLeadership.
So I'm also diving into that.
If you want to join me on thisjourney, I will of course be
bringing all the source truth tothese books and what I teach in
my membership, but it's justtime.
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Like on the Sunday Source, Ikind of broke down all the
different rules of leadershipthat I'm already doing that I
hadn't really even thought ofuntil Source showed me.
But, you know, I'm running twocompanies.
I have a CFO business where I'ma leader.
I have a, I have my soul pullbusiness where I'm a healer
intuitive leader, my podcast,I'm leading my podcast, I'm a
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single mother leading mychildren, leading friends,
leading mentorship groups, allof that, right?
So I'm already doing a lot ofleadership roles, but it's time
for me, and I'm accepting thisinvitation to step up.
So if you have also foundyourself exhausted by being the
person who always has to hold itall together, to know
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everything, to have all theanswers, feeling the weight of
being responsible for so muchand other people's emotions.
If you've been tempted to justcontrol, correct, fix, not
because you're unkind, but justbecause somewhere along the way,
you were taught that certaintyequals safety.
And this is something that alsocomes up in my romantic
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relationships.
If anything feels uncertain, Istart to question everything.
So it is very much a programthat just needs to be rewired.
So if that is you, if you canrelate to any of that, I see
you.
And there is another way.
You don't have to prove yourworth through perfection.
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You don't have to earn respectby always being right.
You don't have to carry theweight of the world to be worthy
of leading it.
Side note, I just went and had amassage because my upper right
shoulder area has been in somuch pain.
And when I looked at thereflective piece, it was very
much because I felt like I wascarrying the weight of the
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world, that I needed to saveeverybody, that I needed to come
up with all of these solutionsovernight.
And of course, working throughthat energetically, and then
also taking the physical actionof getting a massage.
It's, I would say, 90% betterright now.
So true leadership, highconscious.
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I should, I should say, highconscious, true leadership isn't
about knowing everything, it'sabout being willing to know
yourself deeply to witness yourown patterns, programs, beliefs,
and choose something different.
And it's also about being ableto tell, you know, people that
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you're leading, if you don'tknow the answer to something,
it's okay to say, I don't know,let me check.
I have no problem.
That is one thing I don't have,I've never felt embarrassed to
do.
If I don't know something, Iwill say, I don't know.
Let me think about it or let mecheck with so-and-so or
whatever.
The world doesn't need morerulers or dictators, right?
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The world needs high consciousleaders who are willing to take
a step back to look within, tolook around, and to choose
what's in the best interest ofall.
And I will end this by sayingthe people that we are
programmed to hate in the mediaare often the ones who are
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actually the light beings.
That is part of the programming.
I will leave that there for now.
I hope this resonated with you.
Just wanted to remind you ofwhat's possible when we choose
presence over power.
And you were not brought here tofollow, you are here to lead
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from within.
So sending you so much love.
Bye.
Thank you for listening toUnveiled.
I always love hearing yourtakeaways.
So please connect with me onInstagram at Angela Murray
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