Human Design with Mikaela | The Auric Aesthetician - Unwritten Beauty Talks

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Welcome to Unwritten BeautyTalks, your unfiltered beauty
resource, where we talk aboutall things beauty related and
aging well from the inside out.
I'm your host, Katina, masteresthetician, and integrative
health practitioner.
Thanks for joining us.

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So McKayla, I am so excited tohave you on today.
Thank you.
Because you and I have had avirtual friendship for so long.
I feel like I know you, like Ifeel like we, yeah.
We've shared a lot of lifetogether.
Mikayla is the expert in humandesign.
She is fantastic.
She knows literally everything,which I am not an expert about.

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So anytime anyone ever bringsanything up to me, I'm always
like, go to her.
Like I direct everything to yourpodcast and your page.
'cause you just have so muchknowledge.
Thank you.
I it is definitely the thingthat I love and I'm obsessed
with and so I love to be thego-to person, especially for.
All the, people in our industryand their clientele, and I was

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just telling you before westarted that just over the
weekend, I put all of my onehour master classes on YouTube
because I was like, I just wantit to be super easy access and,
just okay, one stop shop, comelearn about all of the things
and.
Yeah.
Just be that for the people andlike I said, for their

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clientele.
I think it's nice.
It's like this whole other weirdlittle niche within the beauty
industry.
Yeah, no, and we were talkingabout earlier I explained it to
my husband.
It's therapy for my soul,basically.
Like you get this beautifulchart that is.
If I'm explaining it correctly,that's basically like your sole
design of how you're supposedto, like what's best for you.

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And like you and I had talked,gosh, was it a year ago or a
little over a year ago now?
Is that all I don't know.
I was like, is it two is twoyears?
Oh my gosh is two years.
I think it's been longer.
Yeah.
Wow.
Gosh.
And you read MyChart.
It just, it blew my mind.
There were things that I knew.
I was like, okay, there's thing,lifestyle choices I need to

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change, yes.
To be more aligned with myself.
But for someone that's new tohuman design, how would you
describe it?
There's all the technical stuffthat I could be like it's this,
that, and the other.
But the fact that you just saidit's therapy for your soul.
I 1000000% agree with that.
It is gosh.
And you also said because it'slike things that you knew and I

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like, that's a huge part of myjob.
It sounds funny to be liketelling people things that they
know, but to have a person andwho understands a system
completely outside of you, mostof the people I work with, I do
not know them in any capacity.
And just to be able to like,like affirm who they are for

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them.
Is, it's just like this nextlevel thing, and it's almost
like you don't know how amazingit is until you experience it.
A friend of mine and I weretalking, he was like, you could
even go research and you couldget it.
It's it's all like even thehuman filter that it comes
through, like what my own designis about, is very much about
empowering people to love andaccept themselves.

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You can listen to somebody elseor get a, have a session or,
like just read some stuff offthe internet.
It's not gonna have the sameimpact, I guess I would say.
So I agree.
Yeah.
Talking to you was so differentbecause if not, I was really
confused.
Totally confused and I think oneof, one of my.

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Things is that I get veryexcited to tell people all the
amazing things about themselves.
So I'm like the hype girl forthe universe.
Do you know what I mean?
I love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
You need a sweatshirt that saysthat, right?
How cute would that be?
At least so cute.
Yeah.
So it is a system.
It's a system.
It's lake.
You'd plug it in like astrology.
So you're using your birth date,location and time and out comes

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this crazy looking chart thathas all kinds of, numbers and
symbols and decimal places andcolors and, just a mess
basically.
And I look at this, the way Idescribe looking at a chart is
reading lab results from theuniverse.
Because I come from a verymedical background.
I was dermo plastics like.
For an over 2020 year career inaesthetics.

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And so I just look at that.
I'm like, I'm just reading likethe, all this stuff makes sense
to me.
I'm like, oh yeah, okay, so thismeans this about you and that
and da dah.
And then she'd be able tocommunicate that.
So I'm like translator, forpeople.
Just like being an aestheticianwhere you're like, you are the
professional, like youunderstand the ingredients and
the procedures and all of thethings and what's what that

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person needs to hear to havetheir best skin, and the things
that they could do and things,they're gonna help them, so
that's why I will refer myselfas like the ORIC esthetician
because I'm like, I'm anesthetician for your energy.
Like I help you in that regard.
After such a long career too, ofjust everything being external.

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And, I'm always like, I'm thefirst person to be like, I'm
completely guilty of that.
That at some point it justdoesn't cut it anymore.
Or you're like, I've done allthe outside, everything looks
good.
Why do I still not feelcomplete?
Or why does there still so feellike something's lacking or,
whatever.
And to be able to come in andpolish stuff up for people is
incredible.

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So it's yeah, your skin's onpoint, but.
Your aura is too, like yourenergy and Yes, it's all good.
Yes.
Because we always have, we allknow that person that comes into
a room and you're just like, welove them, we appreciate them.
But they're just like this ballof stress or energy, and it's
like sometimes people just needguidance in different parts of
their life too, and likeTotally.
I know I'm more, I come from anutrition background, and then

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come into aesthetics and it's.
It's the same thing.
It's if things aren't operatingcorrectly on the inside, same
with your soul, and yes, yourspirituality, like things are
not going to go right everywhereelse.
It's not just about the outside.
Totally.
It's very much the whole like,mind, body, spirit, or all of
the things if you, ifemotionally you're off or your

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nutrition is not right.
It's it's all differentcomponents of the same.
Same thing.
And so why is your spiritual,let's say your spiritual
hygiene, your spiritualaesthetics, like why is that not
an important piece of the bigpuzzle, too?
And I think about that and youremember being young and just
being like, wow, it's sointeresting how you can look at

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somebody and maybe they're like,not.
They're not your type, they'renot super cute or something, but
then you know them and theirpersonality's just like off the
charts and you're like, they arethe most gorgeous thing on two
legs.
And then it can be, the riverscan be true.
It's like somebody who is just,oh, they're so gorgeous and
they're just an icky person.
And that will completely change,how you think and feel about

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them.
So I think it's it's definitelya system that really helps.
To get everything on point, andit's cool too because yes, it's
spiritual, but there's a lot ofvery practical insight and
knowledge about, you buriedwithin this as well.
And I think it just answers alot of, I.
A lot of nagging questions or alot of insecurities, things that

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we have.
And it's so wild.
So I used to not do this, but Ihave an intake form that I
started like within the lastyear or two.
So when people book sessionswith me.
And they, it never fails.
It's it never fails to tickleme.
It's every time, it was likeChristmas morning.
I love looking at people'scharts.
Every chart is beautiful to me.
It's oh, but they'll, what?
They'll write in these intakeforms.
They have all these, not a tonof questions, but a few.

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And it's like they speak theirdesign, the words that they
choose, the things that theythink are a problem for them,
and they're saying it.
And I'm like, Uhhuh.
Okay, cool.
I see it in your chart, however.
We just need to get this personseeing it differently.
Because a lot of the stuff thatwe think are our worst qualities
are actually our best qualities.

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We're just using it wrong.
Like truly we're not.
That I felt, whenever I talkedto you, I was like, okay, I do
have all these things.
But I'm not doing it right.
And I think it, it's once youdiscover that and then you hear
that about yourself and you'relike, wow, okay.
All right.
I'm.
I haven't harnessed thatcorrectly.
So now I can, or you know what,that is a hangup of mine and I

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have a lot more grace.
I do it all the time, like everysingle day I'm like, Ew, that
was like not a cute thought.
Or, like something.
And then it's but I know wherethat came from and I'm okay with
it, rather than being myself upfor it.
Like just, I view itdifferently.
And I think that's, it'sinvaluable.
It's just it's truly aninvaluable a thing to learn

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about yourself.
No I think that's beautiful.
And I, have gone throughanxiety.
I'm sure you have too.
And so I've gone through therapyand my therapist has always been
like, find the thought thatstarted all of it and recognize
it.
And whenever you recognize thatthought, it does.
You're like.
Okay.
It's okay, and you can let itgo.
Or you can accept it and belike, okay, what can I do to

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change this thought?
Yeah.
It's interesting that you bringup anxiety because there, there
are a number of places in thechart that lives.
And so when people Yeah, I havethem.
Oh yeah.
You've got, we, typically we'veall got something uhhuh, but
it's wild because someone willsay that and I'm like, yeah, I.
Don't identify as like ananxious person.

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But struggled have, and on andoff like my entire life with
like major depressive disorder.
It's in my chart.
Really?
It's in my chart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
And like it's wild.
It's it's also the funny.
About this.
So your sun gate, I'll giveeverybody something to look at.
So if you go pull your chart,you can go to my website,
McKayla mclean.com, get a freechart.

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You need those three pieces ofinformation, date, location,
exact time you get the thing upin the upper right hand corner,
this will be on every chartthere is, there's a column of
numbers.
Down the right side.
That'll be black down the leftside.
That on my side it's pink.
Traditionally it's red.
I don't like the color red.
I don't like pretty colors.

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So we're looking at the blackside, the very top box.
There's gonna be a circle witha.in the middle of it.
That is the sun.
That's the glyph or the symbolfor the sun.
If you look at anythingastrological, that's what it's
gonna show.
And so your Sun gate is you're aScorpio, I'm a Pisces, right?
So it's like that's what we'retalking about here.
But then it gets more specific.
Human design is extremelyspecific.

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Yes, astrology is a component ofit, but it's like it gets so
nuanced and I love that, right?
Yeah.
It's very different than likesodi, it goes so much deeper.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
So when you get a one of thesegates, right?
It's what it is it's a chunk ofthe sign, right?
So it's a segment, it's aspecific set of degrees.
For you, the specific set ofdegrees of Scorpio or for me,

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Pisces.
And then there'll be a decimalplace and then it gets even more
specific.
And so you know, you're goingdown, like details My son, which
is in everybody's chart.
The sun.
Should I little way back out andsay this, the sun, no matter
whose chart you're looking at,is the biggest energy in your
chart.
It's the greatest gift.
It's how you shine thebrightest.

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It's like all these wonderfulthings.
So you know, again, you're ascorpion on Pisces.
It's okay, you may or may notidentify heavily with that, but
then again, when you get intothis and you're like, no, let's
get more detailed.
It's more nuanced about it.
My son Gate is in.
It, it's called the darkening ofthe light and the etching.
I didn't tell everybody what,what all makes all this up?
It's like astrology, theetching, the Kabbalah, the Hindu

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chakra system, quantummechanics.
There's like DNA stuff.
There's all kinds of like crazyscience.
It's so cool.
So cool.
So it's, there's a millionthings happening and there is
real science behind this too,which is wild.
Back to that sun.
So you're looking at that.
It's the first number, not thedecimal place.
The decimal place meanssomething, but we're not gonna
go there yet.
Or today but minus 36 and in thee chain.

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So that's where these gates comefrom, is called the darkening of
the light.
And it is the final one of, likethe end of the cycle before like
the rebirth happens in thespringtime and everything.
And it is one that when I see itin people's charts, I'm.
You know what a sadness is likeyou understand depression, you

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understand these things, andit's it was so wild for me.
I don't wanna cry, but like whenI got into came into my world
and I started learning aboutthis, and I like understood that
and was like, wait a minute, thething that like plagues me the
most and I'm always like pleasedon't ever let me go back there.
Like I don't wanna be swallowedup by the dark hole ever again.
I'm like, that's my greatestgift.

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What?
That's crazy.
But because you, oh my God, I'mgonna get emotional with you
because you know what it's liketo be in that dark place, and so
you can relate to people.
Yeah.
And you can guide them out ofit.
And I think it's just one ofthose things that's just if you
haven't been through it, or ifyou don't understand the
feeling, you know you can't helpsomeone.

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No, it's, why do people get sopassionate about going into
aesthetics and specializing insomething?
Why isn't acne specialist sopassionate about that?
Probably because they had itthemselves.
And they lived through it.
They know how miserable it is.
They, know how life changing itis to fix that.
It's so again you see thesethings that you hear and I'm
like, it's crazy.

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This close my mind thatsomething that truly that's been
just.
Absolutely what I had felt likemost of my life was a complete
curse.
Like, why am I like this?
What is this?
Just to find that out.
So that's the kind of like lifechanging, oh my gosh.
Stuff I'm talking about withthis where you're like, if you
have stuff that you've alwaysstruggle with and always dealt

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with that you don't have anexplanation for.
Like, why am I like this?
Why can't I be different?
I'm like, girl.
'cause probably you're notsupposed to be different.
You're supposed to see it adifferent way.
You're supposed to use it adifferent way.
Like I could wallow in that.
I could just be depressed allthe time instead of realizing
the gift is that I'm supposed tohelp other people through it.
That is the task that I've beengiven and I crossed a bear in

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this life.
So we all have got that.
So it's real.
So to me, I'm like, oh, just,it's so cool to find these
things out and it just, it helpsyou make sense of your life.
You're like, this is why I'vebeen through this.
This is why I have thesefeelings.
How can I project them in adifferent way?
Totally.
Wow.
Can I make the anxiety work forme instead of against me?

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How is it a gift?
How is it actually truly a giftsuperpower there?
It's intuition.
We're just we're not viewing itcorrectly.
So I think a lot of times withwith my work, I'm like, all I'm
really doing is like I'mrepackaging people and selling
them back to themselves.
You saw it this way, I knowthat.
Yeah.
Truly this way, let's like putall the pieces together a little
bit better and here you go.

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Yes.
And it's the same pieces.
It's the, I, there was nothingabout that.
That is, it's, none of it isabout being somebody different.
It's about being you 10 timesharder.
It's about let's, let's justexfoliate that off.
Let's just fluffer up a littlebit, and like now you go back
out there and it's it's the samething, be like, oh, I don't like
my nose, or I don't like this.

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And you're like, actually, it'syour best feature, so let's
highlight it.
Let's put it on display, right?
And how people do turn aroundthings that they've really
despised about their appearance.
Turn that into, their callingcard or whatever.
It's the exact same thing withthis with your energy body.
That's beautiful.
Sorry.
Take a drink.
No, please take a drink.

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No, that's, and I don'tunderstand depression from.
That aspect.
But as a wife, as my husband hasbeen through depression and some
of the darkest, darkest days,like so seeing it like the pers
your person and the person youlove.
Yes.
And you wanna take everythingaway.
I get it.
But I have seen him since he'sslowly worked through that, like

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using it to teach and to helppeople, like in his job and his,
so in a different way than whatyou do, but it's still
beautiful, unfortunately, weall, I feel go through our
demons, and we have to figureout a way to do it in a healthy,
way.
Oh, totally.
And I think that, that's what Ithink with this, it's it's a
shortcut.
It's sometimes I'll say it'stherapy on steroids.

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It's it could have taken amillion years to like maybe even
find this stuff out aboutyourself or really see it and,
to be able to harness it andwork with it.
Again, like I said, for you withthe anxiety, it'd be like, oh my
gosh, actually did you know,it's because you have an insane,
ability to hear and a sense oftiming and stuff.

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And so we interpret and this isa big one, like a lot of the
anxiety stuff is because we'restill running on a system that's
very like caveman.
But we live in a modern world,and so we're transferring it.
It's like I'm not running fromthe, I'm not a little deer.
I'm not running from the lion inthe woods, which all of this
stuff is geared toward keepingyou safe, keeping you alive.

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So instead we just, wetransferred onto something else.
You're like, oh, it's becauseI'm actually not like this.
This more caveman system isn'teven able to.
Do what it's meant to do.
It's not able to process things.
And so it's fun to be able totell people that stuff and
here's a little tips and tricks.
Okay.
Do a little bit more of this ordo a little bit of that, and
it's actually going to help youin those ways.

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I never claim that it's, it islike therapy, but it, but to me,
I'm like.
But it is, I can see thatthough.
It's almost, how do I put this?
My grandpa passed away a coupleyears ago and that's, I think
what spurred me actually comingand talking to you.
I think that was, I was thinkingabout that.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
'cause it was like, he was likemy dad and so it was like a
really dark place.

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And also, but.
It's had me think a lot abouthim in different ways of that
beautiful wisdom of being inyour late nineties, like I
almost feel like human designgives you that wisdom that you
would get Yeah.
Later on in life that you startfinding out about yourself.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like I feel each year as I getolder, you find out a little bit

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more about yourself.
Yes.
Sometimes good, sometimes bad,right?
Yes.
It depends.
Yes.
But do you agree with that?
I do.
And I think if anything, it, theolder you get, the more
comfortable you become withyourself anyway.
Typically.
Yeah.
And that's what I think thatthis shortcuts is yes.
The ease of being you.
I'm, and again, it's very muchin my design to want things to

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be like very natural, very easy.
Like I don't like it when peopleare gonna put on and.
Fake or anything.
It's that's such a huge turnoffto me.
Yeah.
And you and I can read rightthrough it.
And so when when you learn againabout this stuff and like I
said, it's like, it's typicallythings that you are not shocked
to hear.
You're shocked to, people areshocked to hear it from a

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stranger who doesn't know them,but they're not shocked to hear
it as far as yeah, that soundslike me.
Yeah, you're definitely talkingabout me like.
So that's the part where you'relike, okay, just relax into
being you.
I think I've said it beforewhere I feel like, ugh, it's
like finding all this stuff outis like taking a shower and
putting all your skincare on ameeting your like coziest robe

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where you're just, you feel likethe most, like at home.
Like I don't have to pretend oranything.
It just feels very natural andvery, just very good.
Yes.
I think that's beautiful.
I don't think we've everdiscussed, or at least, I don't
know, how did you get into thisand how do you apply it like
with aestheticians?
I know that's two separatequestions, but I am so curious

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'cause you've given me obviouslysome wisdom.
Like now I'm really good about,I clear the energy in between
clients.
And I can tell that's made adifference in first off myself,
but also in the energy that Ipresent to them, if that makes
sense.
Yes.
Because I felt like I wasgiving, because you explained to
me it makes sense, I give allday.

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And I was an empty cup at theend of the day, and then I would
go home with my husband and I'mlike, honey, like you get this.
And I've been so much betterwhere I'm not feeling like that
empty cup as much.
There's the give and take.
Sometimes it happens, but I feellike that cleansing really does
make a difference.
Yeah.
Oh I completely agree.
I would say as far as like withestheticians, I'm like, we'll go

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backward, but I know, sorry.
No, it's okay.
With people I have a course thatit currently is unpublished.
I'm trying to decide like how Iwanna go about it, but it has to
do with using this stuff forlike your marketing, right?
For people in aesthetics.
Oh, you should do that.
Yes.
Because again, going back tolike why telling that little bit
about my Sun Gate and findingthat out and being like, oh my

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god.
Okay girl.
So and I will say this, it'sstill hard for me to talk about
'cause I get choked up aboutstuff and I'm like, I'm, I cry
very easy and you know all that.
It's okay.
I started this.
Week.
So I'll cry with you.
We'll cry together.
Oh God, this is the podcast forit.
And so I that out and be like,wow, okay, so there's specific
things in a chart that I couldreally highlight even specific

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words and traits and thingsabout myself that would be like
the big neon sign billboard forme if I were an esthetician
still like in the treatmentroom, like normal.
And I.
What, what would I do?
What would I say?
How would I wanna present?
What are the things that I wantto show up on social media and
talk about?

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Because that will automaticallymagnetize the correct people to
me because this is what Idecided after, all the years of
working was like, yes, okay.
People, I always thought theycame to me because they wanted
the most meticulous attention todetail.
Aesthetician, who like knows herstuff and all that.

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And then you realize like youcan see other people who you
know, are not as proficient withtheir work, which is facts,
right?
But people love them.
And I was like, what is that?
Like why would you not wannacome to the best?
I get it though.
Yeah.
But you are what you attractalmost, like you're, what you

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attract.
I, it's, you're what youattract, but also I think it's,
you have a particular.
Medicine, right?
I'll look at things in people'scharts and I'm like, oh, they're
medicine for me because that'ssomething that, MyChart needs to
be around.
So that's my theory is that youreally wanna highlight and
feature all of these thingsabout yourself and really be

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super authentic according toyour design.
And again, when you learn deepenough about it, not just the
surface stuff, but the deeperstuff, you know that you're
like, whoa, okay, that so is me.
It's so on the nose.
So if I took those four thingsthere's something in your in
your design culture, yourincarnation cross, you can think
of like the four pillars.
And when I, in my marketingthing, it's that's what I talk

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about.
I'm like, these are yourpillars.
Okay.
If you used those as your brandpillars and you spoke about that
and you're really like, I.
You made that part of yourstory.
'cause it is and it's like thereisn't any getting around that it
is part of your story.
But the more that you do that,the more that again, you're
going to attract the rightpeople who are like, that's
exactly what I need.
So it goes back to the treatmentroom.

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It's yes, you could be whatevertype of practitioner you are,
but your energy is the medicinefor people.
And that's the part that's goingto bring, again, bring in the
right people that are meant foryou.
And then there's some people,it's but they need a different,
they need something else.
And that's where they're gonnapick their provider ba, based

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off of so that's how I see,that's definitely how I see
that.
And and then like you said, likeclean clearing the energy and
things.
That's I think important givenhow many people you come into
contact with.
And it's just, there's thatexchange and people are drawn to
you for a reason and sometimesit's because you are that
listening ear.

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They, I.
It's always such a joke that weare like people's therapist.
Yes.
And then it's like, when are youprepared for that?
Do you have tools and thingsthat you feel really
comfortable?
Or are you just like the personthat they dump on?
And so I think it's importantfor practitioners to have
specific practices like I sharedwith you some things, okay, do

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this, do that because you arecharts prone to that.
I think a lot of us really takeon a lot.
I know I have in the past whenyou don't have the awareness and
then you learn about yourselfand you're like, oh, okay, I'm
susceptible to this or to that.
People are drawn to, this forme.
And it just gives you differentperspectives and you can go

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about your day and your workfrom a very healthy place for
you rather than, I don't knowwhat hit me like.
That's how it used to feel,right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're like, oh, okay.
Yes.
And I've had so many people,like even brand new, I'll meet
them and they'll start crying orthey're like, I'm so sorry.
And they start apologizing.
I'm like, please do notapologize.

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I'm like, there is somethingabout, it's a me thing.
I was like, I'm so happy you'recomfortable and I am judgment
free.
I do not judge.
I'm here for you.
And it's just, it's one of thosethings like.
Okay.
Can I tell you?
Yes.
Okay.
Because it like, I got yourchart back here.
Because if somebody sayssomething like I said, people
will say stuff and I'm like, Iknow exactly where to look and

(25:09):
be like, she had this, you havea gate.
I actually also have this gate.
It's part of my incarnationcross.
I said the pillars, right?
Yours is in a different place.
It is.
If we're talking prosperity.
This is involved in yours.
This is actually major.

(25:30):
Major prosperity placement ishow you're meant to serve
others.
So it's funny.
Okay, I was talking to somebodyabout this just the other day.
I was like, there's the, my jobis to be an aesthetician on the
surface, but then there's yourlike, but my undercover job is
to be this.
Oh, that's, do things to look atthat right through that lens.
So for you, the way that you'remeant to serve people it's
considered a vocation placementis, it's being a humanitarian,

(25:55):
it is being, they always saythat those of us that have this
particular energy in our charts,that it like supersizes our
aura, and people are attractedto it because they sense that
feeling of I'm accepted here.
This is a safe space.
This is, yes.
So you're doing like, you'redoing something just literally
by being you're serving.

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Oh, you feel good though that Igive people that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Isn't that so cool?
It's an energy of extremes andsometimes it gets talked about
in a funny way that I reallydon't care for that.
It's oh, you don't do well withroutine and this, that and the
other.
And I'm like, or it's thatyou've had extreme life
experiences for the per, again,there's a reason why have you

(26:36):
had extreme?
And it doesn't always mean bad.
And I could definitely say formyself, I have definitely had
extreme life experiences, butit's intended so that you can
better relate to.
More people.
You are accepting because youunderstand people, like you've
walked a mile in differentpeople's shoes, you get it.
So you're like, yes, I am a safespace.

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Like there, it would say humansand animals even are attracted
to people with this becausethey're just like.
It's okay.
There's no judgment here.
Like truly, like my husband'salways he's I swear, you just
look at people and you just cansee them.
And I'm like, I don't know whatto tell you.
I'm I don't know.
Yeah.
But it's oh, it just, I have tofeel so good around that, it's

(27:17):
incredible.
That's awesome.
But that does make sense why Ihave, that happen all the time,
right?
Yeah.
So what brought you into this?
I have to know like how did youjust start reading a book one
day?
What happened?
As I already said, I'm a Piscesand we are I.
Considered like the mostspiritual, like of the, all the

(27:37):
zodiac and talk about it in Walka Mile and everybody's shoes
were the last one.
So that's the astrologicaltheory is like we have
experienced everything througheverybody else and it's very
empathic and all that.
So from the time I was a littlekid, I was always into anything.
Like that, I had a magic gabel,I had the worry dolls.
I, I had my little bible, I had,like all, it didn't matter what

(27:59):
it was just like everything is,whatever.
Yeah.
So I was really into astrologyfor ever, for a really long
time.
And then I was trying to thinkof like the date my daughter was
born in 2013, and I don't think,I think it was like after that,
but not long.
Just one day it popped up, whenyou're into stuff and it's oh,

(28:19):
this is just another, it'sanother thing of the things that
I'm into.
And I feel like it found me, inthat regard.
Yeah.
And I was like, Ooh, oh, okay.
And like off down the rabbithole I went.
Now I find it really interestingagain to, to then consider my
own chart in this regard becauseit's like, it's cut out for it.

(28:41):
It truly is.
Like everything in that, I'mlike, wow, okay.
I, the more I know, the more I'mlike, yeah, this was on purpose.
So it just came into my life andtook over.
There's part of my design that'svery much about being obsessive,
and I'm like, Ugh.
Yep.
When I was little, I wanted tobe a doctor and it was like, and
then I was super serious inballet.
It was like, there's only everlike one thing, it's like

(29:04):
everything skin.
All my energy goes to that.
And this kind of just came inand took over.
So I was like, you thoughtastrology was cool?
Okay.
Wait till you find out aboutthis.
And it just, it's a system thatbrings like so many things
together.
My brain work.
Again, it's in my design.
My brain works like that.
Like connecting all of the dotsand seeing how all of it makes,

(29:26):
and we've done a session whereI'm like, okay, let me look at
this version of your chart andokay, this is happening and this
is, this has to do with yourpurpose and okay, but I like
this.
All right.
My brain just pieces it alltogether.
So I guess that's really it.
It was just like.
It just happened.
I got super into it.
I love to study and I went downall the rabbit holes and just

(29:50):
became super obsessive and Ididn't actually read for anybody
until 2020.
It was during the pandemic thateverything went crazy.
Oh, really?
So that's what like started thewhole thing?
Yeah, because I was doing it,but it was like from a.
I'm, I read, I research, it'sbut I would never put myself out

(30:10):
there as, somebody who does thisor anything.
Even though like in my heart,it's what I loved.
And I, it was so bad.
'cause I can never remember whoit was.
It was not somebody I even knew.
But someone finally asked me waslike, would you read my chart
for me?
Because I knew I was into it.
And that just was like from thefloodgates.

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During the pandemic, I workedall day, every day.
Oh my gosh.
Reading chart, like I would doback to back sessions, like the
entire time when we were inlockdown because Okay.
I'm gonna do, gonna give youanother little nugget, like
things to find out about yourchart.
I, there's something called yourcross.
I already mentioned you haveyour incarnation cross.

(30:53):
Mine is the cross of crisis, andthat sounds ooh.
That's not cute.
And then you find out like, oh,that actually means that I am
meant to come into people'slives during times of crisis.
Oh, when did we work together?
Yes.
A time of crisis.
It was, yeah.
So I am supposed to enterpeople's lives, help them

(31:15):
through, their moments of crisismake them feel good about
themselves.
And it may again just that'sexactly what I do.
Like people find me at thosetimes.
And I am equipped now, to beable to help, like essentially
walk them through that.
But at the time, you have noidea.
It's just, you're just doingyour thing.
But I think how much more wouldyou live your life with a sense

(31:38):
of purpose if you knew thesethings about yourself that
you're like, this is really whatI'm coded to do.
And the way that I'm meant tohelp people gives you a
completely different,perspective on things.
That's so cool.
Is there any recommendationsthat you have?
Obviously, I know human designis so specific per person, so

(32:00):
it's hard to go, but I knowthere's, okay.
Don't quote me.
There's like manifesters andgenerators and other things and
yep.
Are there different things thatyou would be like, hey, like for
this person, like just for alistener at home that maybe they
could start implementing tomaybe help reset or help
recharge themselves?

(32:21):
Yes.
I think if you, we'll go super,super simple.
If you are a manifester, aprojector, or a reflector, they
need more rest.
More rest, more less demands,all of that.
And then for the generatorsslash manifesting generators,
technically one and the same,but they get separated.

(32:43):
We, because we're in that camp,it's like we're meant to do what
we love.
For us, it's like we're theclassic, do what you love and
you'll never work a day in yourlife.
So saying no more to things thatreally don't make you happy.
When it sounds super simple.
It is not,'cause we're verymuch, it's so hard conditioned,
or, okay, sure.
Uhhuh,'cause it's always yeah,of course I can do that.
It's just because I can doesn'tmean that I should.

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And it's a really wild thing.
And even asking me about this,it's like.
Doing this now, it's it makes meso happy.
There's when I sit down withsomebody and like I said, read a
chart or something and I'm like,this is the best, this is the
best.
Love that.
And I like half the time I'mgoing, the person probably has
no idea what I'm even talkingabout, but I, they, but for

(33:28):
someone like us, we're sacralpeople.
Our excitement just boostseverything.
So if I'm excited or you areexcited, it is like they don't
even have to comprehend.
They're feeding off your energy,so you are like helping to lift
them up.
And like I said, a huge part ofmy design is really about
empowering people to love andaccept themselves.

(33:49):
It sounds so generic.
It's really not.
It's super specific to mydesign.
And I'm like, that's what peoplecome to me for.
I used to think they came to mefor perfect skin.
It's oh, you were coming to mefor my energy, just like
somebody would Now it's likedifferent appointments,
different things that I'm doing.
Yeah.
But it's meant to be the same,if not a better outcome,

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honestly.
You know that.
It's I'm boosting you.
I'm piping you up.
I'm making everything feelbetter.
You feel good about you again ina way that maybe you didn't
before.
Yeah, and there's something sobeautiful.
When like I finish for example,like a client in the treatment
room, I could have saw 10 or 12that day, and I walk out and I'm

(34:31):
still excited.
I'm tired.
I'm probably hungry, but I'mexcited.
Yes.
You get like that little skip inyour step.
You're like, I help someonetoday, and they're happy.
That's us.
Or Yes, or just like I made themfeel good.
Like I'm a gid.
I get high off of it.
It's.
It's my high.
I don't need drugs.
I don't need alcohol.
Nope.
I just need my job.

(34:52):
No, truly we're designed towork.
Yeah, we are.
We're actually designed to work,and so when we're doing the
correct work, it gives us life.
I love it.
It's like we, it's like I coulddo it all day long.
I could do it all day every dayand not get tired of it.
That's when you know if you area generator or manifesting
generator, doing the rightthing.
When you get a little, skippingyour stuff, you're like, keep it
on.
Yes.
This is it.

(35:13):
Yes.
You're like I can't get enough.
That's when you know you'relike, you're in the zone.
Okay, so I told you I went totherapy and I don't mean to be
like sad, I don't know if youand I discussed it, but I had an
ectopic pregnancy last year.
Lost my left fallopian tube.
Anyways, long story short,because of the abortion laws in

(35:34):
the state of Florida they wouldnot treat me because it is
considered an abortion.
Anyways, yes, and wheneveryou're in pain and all of these
things are going on and it's anemergency.
Yeah, so it's.
I went through this wholejourney of basically feeling
wronged if that makes sense.
Because I'm so big on trying tomake others feel right and feel

(35:56):
good about themselves.
And so that was reallychallenging for me.
But I will say I'm doing a lotbetter now.
It made me reset.
Like from whenever I had talkedto you, I started where I
started booking a lunch break,which I never did before during
my workday.
So I started booking a lunchbreak and then all of those
things happened and I.
I noticed I was going backwards.

(36:18):
Like I wasn't taking a lunchanymore.
I wasn't packing, or I wasn'teven eating in the morning.
I just, it made me think forthe, short time I was pregnant.
I didn't take care of myself inany way, shape, or form.
And it gave me the biggestreality check which I think any
of those things always do.
Yeah.
But it made me see, okay, whatdo I need to do to be better?

(36:39):
And what do I need to do to findmyself?
And so you'll have to tell me ifthis like slightly resonates
with my chart and anyway.
'cause I'm really curious.
I have been, as soon as I wakeup, I eat now.
I drink a lot of water.
I officially in the new year,I've been simplifying my days,
where now I'm gonna work 10 tosix versus before I was doing
nine to seven.
I have an hour and a half drive,so you know, whenever you add

(37:02):
the I know.
Isn't that crazy?
Oh my goodness.
I know.
I'm a crazy person.
And I was doing five days a weekand now I'm four and I take one
Saturday off a month.
Okay.
Now I still have all my otherside things, as do I still
dabble because this is what I.
I love this, like we talkedabout.

(37:24):
This is what gives me energy andfills my soul.
But I guess, and I don't know ifit'll be beneficial for our
listeners, but what would, whatis my next step, Mikayla.
I don't know what to do.
I, oh my goodness.
I'm like, I just, actually todayI messaged my manager, and I was
like, Hey, like I have tosimplify, and I felt so guilty

(37:46):
that I was taking my hours down.
And she's oh my gosh.
Of course you're the one that,you're the only one that works
that amount of hours.
And it still hurts me.
Isn't that funny?
Yes.
Oh goodness.
I think we, I know so much todownload on you.
I'm sorry.
No I am going, oh my gosh.
We again, sacral people.

(38:08):
It's just so because we can, wewill do it even though it's not
good for us necessarily.
Like there, there's that levelof I could do this all day, but,
not to my own detriment.
That's one thing.
But I will say, I like lookingat things.
You, I already mentioned, oh,you have this wonderful sense of
timing, but even that is likeunderstanding timing.

(38:32):
Timing is a huge gift for you.
So working with that.
What is healthy for me, right?
What is a healthy schedule?
What should I be, where do Ineed to tighten things up?
And it's interesting you sayinglike all the side things and,
'cause again, generators werelike a bit more, I.
Singular as far as it doesn't,it's not all the things.

(38:52):
'cause I've had people say, oh,you do so much.
And I'm like, I really don'tfeel like I do.
But I guess they're all in thesame category, that's what I was
getting at.
Feel all.
It's not like I'm going off anddoing fitness, even though I
enjoy it, I'm not teaching.
You know Exactly.
Pilates on the side.
No, that's, no, that's exactlyit.
And that's what I was getting atwas like, you or I, it's yes,

(39:13):
you might have all the sidequests, but at the same time
there's always related to themain show.
Yes.
The main goal.
It's always, yes.
It's it's just, to me it's justlike different branches of off
that same tree.
It's not a brand new tree, oranything.
Yeah.
So I think, making sure thatyou're giving yourself enough,
like enough time.
The other thing I would say toyou.

(39:34):
What, like the your circle liketighten, tightening that up.
That's a big piece in design.
Yeah.
I need to work on that.
Okay.
Okay.
It's hard.
Yeah.
People probably look at you andis, and I'm being specific about
what I'm seeing is that.
Looking at you like you're gonnabe the one to save or fix them.

(39:54):
Yes.
I feel like that in all, most ofmy friendships yes.
Yeah.
And it's hard.
Yes.
And knowing, like how tight tokeep the circle because you also
have what I would almost evensay a competing energy in your
chart that is like.
The welcome wagon thateverybody's welcome here, that
makes sense.
Yeah.

(40:15):
Yeah.
And it's, and all this stuff I'mtalking about is like their
emotional energies, and again,things you've already said in
this conversation alone, butreally seeing like everyone and
just being like, oh, people andloving them and, there's there's
a lot of that, but I think foryour own sort of like health and
wellbeing is making sure that.

(40:37):
We're, we are just not overdoingit in that space.
You there's something elsethat's catching my eye too is
that you have the desire and themotivation to be somebody who is
like a fixer.
Yes I take care of people, I seewhat's wrong, so I need to be
the one to fix them.
And saying like you felt.
Feel guilty.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a, I do, because I wasgoing through it and I'm like,

(40:58):
oh my God.
I'm like, okay, going from nineto seven, then 10 to six, that's
six hours.
That could be six people.
That's how my brain works.
Versus, oh, you could, yeah.
Get more sleep, workout, eathealthier.
Like I am getting close tohaving a thyroid condition and

(41:19):
health issues if I don't takecare of myself.
So it's like totally.
It's like a wake up call.
Hey, like this is the time whereif you don't do something now,
in the future it's going to hurtyou.
But, and so I know that it'slike part of my brain knows
that, and the other half is no,Uhhuh.
It's funny that you say thattoo.
'cause I remember toward the endwhen I was like, okay, I'm going

(41:41):
to shift into a differentversion of my career.
And I was like but what will mypatients do?
They come to me, like who'sgonna treat them the way that I
treat them, because I know.
Attachment issues.
Yes.
And also, I just like I saidbefore and see there's a trait
that again, you and I bothshare.
It's like being incrediblymeticulous.

(42:02):
I'm like, I know from beingtreated by other people where
I'm like, they might bewonderful.
They're great, they're fine,whatever.
But it's like the absoluteattention to detail and knowing
like I'm going to, you know whatI'm saying?
I do.
Yes.
Like I know I can't leave you insomebody else's hands and expect
you to be taking care of the waythat I would take care of you.
Yes.
And feeling guilty over that,even though the job itself is

(42:25):
like not making me happyanymore.
And again, this is where being agenerator, you're like, oh, so
I'm still doing a disservice.
Because if me as a generator ismeant to do what I love,
therefore I put off good energythat's actually going to rub
off, it's gonna infect people inthe best way possible.
I'm not doing it.

(42:45):
I'm up in my mind.
So human design, very much likeyour mind versus everything
else.
And the mind is not the boss.
We're just, we're so used toletting the mind rule everything
and it's not the boss.
So I'm in my mind being like, Ifeel guilty.
I should, I need to, everythingyou're saying, and then you're
like, oh.
So no.

(43:05):
If I take better care of myselffor the people that I do show up
for, it's like they're gonna getso much better out of me, and
I'm gonna feel good, and I'mgonna have good, great, positive
energy.
And it's it's all gonna bewonderful.
And it's hard to detach fromthat.
It is.
That's that, that to me is thebiggest hurdle is as you from,

(43:28):
they would say from like thetime that you first see your
chart for the first time, it'slike that's when the process
begins and then it's like aseven year deconditioning
process, meaning like you'relike undoing the layers.
You're, you've got seven yearsof exfoliation to do before
you're like, hopefully like atthe baseline of this is, hey,
this is what it, what your skinreally looks like, and then, and
you're.

(43:48):
You never really arrive.
You're always, I'm deep intothis and it's like there's
always things, but it's amazingin even like the first year or
two how much you realize likethe biggest hurdle is just the
mind.
It's just the mind getting thatout of the way.
Being like, okay, I'm excitedto.
Take care of myself.

(44:08):
I'm excited to go to yoga in themorning rather than go see that
first patient.
I'm changing my hours.
And you're like, I'm actuallygoing with my excitement.
I don't know how that's going tolead me to the correct place.
So there's like this suspensionof disbelief that you're like.
I just need to roll with this.
I just need to try and see whathappens.
I always say it's not a, it'snot a belief system.
It's a science experiment.

(44:28):
And I love that.
Again, being in this field whereyou're like, I love the science,
so yes, please.
And you just play with it andsee what happens.
And so when you actuallyimplement and try, and then you
realize wow, okay, didn't makesense on paper, but I did it in
real life.
And things are actually evolvingthe way that they're meant to.

(44:49):
Again, sacral people is likeprioritizing your joy, your
happiness in whatever form thatmeans.
We can, we we mentally can'tcompute how that's going to fix
your life, but it will, if youdo it enough, if you give it
enough time, it's okay, I don'tget it, but I'm gonna go with
it.
And then it's I don't know, doit for a little while, and see

(45:11):
what happens.
I know, I think what made mejumped through it is that I kept
telling myself, I'm like, okay,I can always open it back up.
Like it's okay.
It's like it's not permanent.
It's okay, but it, but somethingin my soul is like, no, you have
to do this because the more I'velearned, if I do, just like you
said, if I do take care ofmyself.

(45:32):
I show up.
I'm a high end price point, soif someone's coming in my room,
like I'm giving, just like yousaid, like a hundred percent,
you and I are the same.
And it's something like, I'vetold my husband this, like I can
shut my brain off and focus juston one person, one thing.
And hyper focus.
Yes.
And it is, and I have noticednot everyone can do that.

(45:52):
I thought everybody could.
I really did.
You're your own self and as yougrow up with yourself throughout
this life, you're like, oh,people are so different than me.
And they do things so like we'reall just a bunch of weirdos,
aren't we?
Totally.
We all just do things sodifferently.
But I can turn off.
Different parts and be likecompletely hyperfocused.

(46:13):
I could be in pain, I could besick.
I could completely turn it offand not feel any of that.
Yep.
And focus on my person.
And then once that person leavesand I go to clean the room, I
feel this wave of emotions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
I have to pee.
My, I'm thirsty, I'm hungry.

(46:36):
Like, why is this a thing?
Oh my gosh.
I think about that frequentlybecause again, like that's the
kind of schedule that I had andback in the day and yeah.
Where you'd I have to be so bad.
And yet, there's no time.
There's no time.
No.
And I wouldn't take a lunchbreak, all work late every
single day and all of that.
And, I think about it becauseagain, we talk about this mind

(46:58):
versus the body and that beingsuch a core concept in design is
that how much do we activelydeny our body's wisdom?
Something as simple as beinglike, bold at you don't, you
can't go pee.
That's.
Yeah, all the time.
I know I did it all the time andI'm like, wow, that is nuts.

(47:21):
Actually, my body is likesignaling, you need to do this.
And my mind's yeah, no, you'rebusy.
Yeah.
It just goes, no, and it's soweird because on my days off, if
I have to pee, I go immediatelyI'm like, no, I've shut that off
all week.
Uhuh, I'm not playing.
Yes, but just something thatsilly.

(47:42):
That's when you realize howimportant it is to start to pay
attention to our body'sintelligence.
It's important.
Okay, that's not good for you.
Like it's actually physicallynot good for you to do that all
the time.
And I used to do it all the time'cause I'd just be working and
too busy.
Oh, I'm not hungry, am guiltyeating disorder in the past, but
it's oh, you just coffee and Icoastal dinner.

(48:04):
Where you're like, your tummy isI'm so hungry.
Yes, be quiet.
You're not hungry.
Let's keep working.
And again, as a sacral person,you're like, that's your gut
speaking to you.
And I'm telling it to be quiet.
I'm ignoring it.
I'm like shoving it down.
So a lot of it and again, thisis why, I think why I think that
this.
Is so pertinent to aesthetics.

(48:25):
It's here we are people that arecaring for the physical body and
the vessel and helping peoplewith it and you know what I'm
saying?
It's okay I need to help you ona deeper level, wider level than
what I'm currently doing.
And again, kinda can't stressthe body's wisdom enough.
You and I both sacral authority.
If you do that and you get yourchart, it'll tell you what your

(48:47):
authority is.
And then you can learn about it.
Go watch the class on YouTubeand stuff.
But it's for you and I both,it's like I know that feeling of
expansion or contraction, andthe more that I'm I'm confusing
myself, like I'm con my body isspeaking very clearly, my mind
is muddling.
Everything up.
So I feel like the more that Irespond to my body it's just
very simple things, like goingto the bathroom or eating when

(49:10):
it's necessary or, whatever.
When you're hungry the bettersort of everything will like,
turn out because you're like,oh, I'm actually I'm letting
this be the intelligence.
It is and taking it for, theinformation that it's trying to
give me, rather than letting mymind boss everything around and
it gets me nowhere, it'sinteresting too, because in your

(49:31):
chart you have a channel that isvery much about just physically
being in the right place at theright time.
Okay.
And not having to do anything.
It's just like your physicalpresence is very beneficial to
whomever you're around.
And just.
And so you're like, again, ifyou're denying your body of what
it needs, can you, are you goingto be physically where you need

(49:53):
to?
You know what I'm saying?
Am I gonna be what I need to befor others?
Are you gonna be what you needto be or gonna be brave?
Or, for myself, you need to bethinking about others.
Yeah, always.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No but it's just is all thatgonna fall into place the way
that it's meant to?
If your mind is busy running theshow, no, probably not.
Crazy.
It's such a reality check,right?

(50:14):
I've known it and so I'vereally, I have noticed the more
and more I like try to hone intoit, it is true.
Like your body tells you, hey,like this is what you need and
this is what you need to do foryourself.
And if you don't like,unfortunately, eventually over
time there are consequences.
Oh, completely.
And as we were chatting already,it's I.

(50:36):
I have carpal tunnel and I hurtmyself again.
I inadvertently before thinkingI might go back and dabble in
the treatment room a bit andstuff, and I am a little bit,
but I'm like in severe painevery day.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
No, it's okay.
But I see, the body, what is mybody trying to communicate to
me?
Then it's it's like you're, youwere trying to go backwards and

(50:59):
it's no.
Yes.
We're like, I'm pushing you inthis direction for a reason, but
I get it.
It's hard.
You're doing what you know andYeah, and again.
My mind says this, my mindthinks this would be a good
idea.
And and then the funny thing is,you're back in there and it's
okay, I'm physical pain.
And then the idea, it's oh, thisis making my tummy go, oh, like

(51:21):
it doesn't like it?
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
It's, I'm being directed acertain way.
I am learning to actuallygenuinely trust that.
And just knowing, like hands offthe wheel, like I'm gonna, I'm
gonna wind up being guided whereI need to go and things will
make sense at some point.
But not trying to force things.

(51:41):
I think that's the other parttoo, is that everything with
design gives me so much peacethat if, I say to you right
place, right time.
You take care of your physicalvessel, that's gonna work itself
out.
You can be like, oh, okay, so Iam gonna do the, I'm gonna
change the hours.
I'm going to take better meals.
I'm gonna, like what I listen toin the car, even on the commute.

(52:04):
Being intentional with that sothat everything is like going to
toward making me feel better andbe a better, like the, I
shouldn't say better, the bestversion of myself.
And then I can relax.
It's okay.
That's then I will be the rightme at the right place in time.
And it's all gonna just workitself out.

(52:25):
Ugh.
That's.
Yeah.
No, that's awesome.
I need to, we're doing newthings, right?
You and I both.
Yes.
We're embarking on this wholenew journey of, I'm going to try
to work less and you arefocusing on what's your next
step?
What's your new thing?
Do you have anything up yoursleeve?
Any secrets you can share withus?

(52:48):
I feel like I'm always workingon so many things, I know.
Same always.
But again, it's all coming offthat same, it's just an
extension of one, one thing.
What would I say?
We have a move that's eminent.
My husband's from Scotland andwe're planning to move back and
finally that's starting to.

(53:09):
Come to fruition after a longtime of wanting this to happen.
And yeah okay, in your chart.
There is something, and I knowthat you and I have talked about
this, but it really has to dowith your dharma or your life's
purpose.
So there's many things, and likeI said, if you get a chart,
you're like, there's agazillion, you wouldn't know
where to, you wouldn't even knowwhere to start.
But.
I know how to read the charts,so there's something that has to

(53:33):
do with your dharma or yourlife's purpose and that it is a
like a process.
I also do something calledastrocartography, which is your
astrology for the world.
So it's okay.
That's cool.
I've seen that with all thelines.
Yeah.
Is that what that is?
Okay.
That's cool.
It's super cool.
Because again, like how I saidmy brain works and I'm piecing
everything together, and you'relike, oh, okay.

(53:55):
Like I've helped people relocateand stuff with it, but using,
there would be a traditional wayto think about astrocartography
that you're like, you wouldn'ttell somebody necessarily to
move this line or that lineexcept then you look at it
through, I do through the humandesign lens and I'm like, oh,
that's actually tied to yourprosperity and if you do this,
like it's gonna be reallybeneficial and.

(54:16):
That's happened.
Oh, that's so cool.
Okay.
I'm gonna schedule that withyou.
That's amazing.
And people love it, even forvacations and things, just
places that are like, oh, I'vealways been drawn here.
And then you find out thatthere's a reason that you have,
like the first time I ever wentto Scotland, I was 20 years old,
my husband's whole family livesthere.
And I went and I was like, thisis home.
There's something about thisplace.

(54:37):
At the time I didn't know I, Iwasn't reading Astrocartography,
it does have to do with likemajor prosperity for me, turns
out.
So that dharma thing, the life'spurpose, but that I'm very big
on.
I don't remember don't know ifyou remember all the stuff I
told you about yours, but for meyou wanna get super specific.

(54:58):
It has to do with a placement inthe chart that is literally
called retreat.
They live on a little island.
It's so off the beaten path,like it is so remote and it
really is like a retreat andthat is like lowkey.
My dream is to have somethingthat's like that.
Like I know how much I love tojust go and be away from the

(55:21):
world.
It's in me, right?
That is what this particularplacement gives you in your
design.
If you're, if you have that,it's actually an energy that
like.
Would indicate a person needs alot of alone time and I'm very
much that person.
There're specific ones.
I feel that Yes.
It's how I recharge.
So I don't know if you're thesame.
Yeah.
That's how I recharge.

(55:42):
Gotta go.
And so I, I just know howvaluable that is and being in,
in a place that is so that justthe nature itself is so healing
and yeah.
That's something that I wouldreally love to do long term is
oh, I'm excited for you.
All of the healing.
Yeah.
I feel like that's going to openyou to so many new ideas and new
things.

(56:02):
Definitely.
Yeah.
My husband being in themilitary, like we've moved so
many different places and I feltlike every time was terrifying,
scary, but I became the, abetter version of myself, yeah.
Yep.
Right place, right time, rightplace, right time.
There we go.
Yeah.
Which is so cool.
That's so crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(56:22):
So it's so I'm working on thatand like I said, put up classes
on YouTube the other day, and Ithink just.
I, one of my friends has saidstuff before and I really love
this concept of, rather thanthat constant okay, we all, we
got always gotta be producingmore and new and everything.
And I'm very much generators, wechurn out the work like nobody's

(56:43):
business.
Like again, when we do.
Yes, but just yep.
Could do it all the time.
But is, and this is coming froma projector, so if somebody
who's wise that sees the gameand is like to go back, circle
back and actually supportcreations that you already have,
and I was like whoa.
That's, she told me that acouple years ago.
I know.
And it, so it like bouncesaround in my head sometimes and

(57:03):
I'm like, that's right.
What if I did that?
Those videos I put up, I stillwanna rerecord like the
beginning and I'm gonna tinkerwith them, but.
They're a few years old and Iwas like.
Yeah, why not just still printthese up?
They're still great.
Oh, totally.
I still have watched mine andthe workbook I got from you, I'm
obsessed with it.
Oh.
And like the video like goeslike together.

(57:23):
Oh.
I had mine printed.
'cause I love my workbook somuch I printed it.
Yeah I'll have to grab it andshow you at the end of this.
I have it like right over here.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, that makes me so happy.
Yes.
And that's the whole point ofthose so have the PDFI am.
Sometimes where you say thingsand you're like, okay do I wanna
say my trifecta, my Trifacta?
Okay.

(57:43):
So it's like I have been workingon a book.
That has to do with all of this,but again, through the lens of
beauty and like taking care ofyourself.
Oh my gosh.
If you ever want someone tosupport you, I'm here.
I would love to best.
I think that would be absolutelybe oh my gosh.
I think that'd be great though.

(58:05):
My, what I see, so like I said,I have a trifecta, but it's it's
all like the same stuff.
And that's, the retreats iskinda like the pinnacle.
Yeah.
But to help people through thatbecause.
It's like how just individual isthat you can just pick up a book
and take it home and be like,learn about yourself and how to
better take care and love onyourself.
But I have to say, because allof my people are in this

(58:27):
industry, I'm like, oh, I wannasee like my book on the shelf
next to your products.
And, like that, it's it's rightthere with it.
And, oh, you can go watch thisvideo.
Go watch your video on YouTubeabout yourself.
I just, I don't know.
Like I, I'm.
Just wanting and trying to findways to support people in.

(58:47):
Like almost an in the book.
The book is something physical,but mo most of everything that I
really do is like veryintangible, the Yoga natures are
the meditations that I createand I love them.
All the stuff.
Yeah.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
But I feel like we are movingmore and more, the more
technological we get in thissociety, the more people are
craving that spirituality,they're craving more to

(59:09):
understand their body.
So like I do a lot of, because Iused to do nutrition, I do a lot
of, inside out work in adifferent way.
And there are things where Ilike.
I feel like someone will leaveand I'll clear their skin and
their digestive health is doingbetter.
And we have answers to a lot ofthings, but.
If they're still having anxietyor they're still maybe not

(59:30):
understanding this leap or thiscurve and just to have this
overall, I really do think inthe future, this overall 360
wellness, and I think you'retapping into that because I
think our society is going intoit like the Yes.
I think people are realizinglike how important that is, that
it's like, again, you can havethe perfect skin, you can have
the perfect outfit, whatever.

(59:51):
But it's if something is stilllacking, internally, it, you
can't deny that.
So we'll tell you this.
So obviously my podcast is superextensive because it goes
through all 64 gates.
And so one that I'm talkingabout, that's my Dharma.
I've spoken about this and sohow I really envision all of it
is that.
I want to have an energeticbeauty pharmacy.

(01:00:14):
It's my medical background, so Ilove that.
I think that's amazing.
The third piece that I didn'tinclude, as I said, my little
trifecta is like potentially,this is not like an immediate
thing because I just, there's,it's an idea is it's feeling,
yeah.
And always the push and pull ofwho's ready for it yet?
Like that sort of feeling, but.

(01:00:35):
The third that, that third thingwould be to train people,
ideally aestheticians, and notto read a chart.
I'm like, we don't need morehuman design readers.
But how I said reading as labresults and how can I actually
use this to help you and helpyou heal inside and out.
And our, I think our workmarries so beautifully with

(01:00:56):
this, I think so too.
Personally.
Yes.
But I've always seen it as okay,I can teach you things to do in
the treatment room, buteverything that I have outside
of it that you can refer yourclient to go watch that video.
Go read that book.
Go, go do this to me.
It's the therapy that's going tocarry you between appointments.

(01:01:18):
From treatment to treatment withyou, the provider.
So it's I think it's beautiful.
It's almost dare I say reiki,but in a totally different way.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's energy work in and ofitself, and I get done with
people.
I'm like, okay, listen to thisepisode, that episode dah.
I want you to do this, and thisis the physical medicine that I
want you to do, and everything.
And it's it's just that way ofcontinuing the whole process.

(01:01:40):
It's the home care, that you getbetween these appointments.
So I don't know.
To me, I'm like somehow tappinginto that of okay, my
aestheticians, if we can makethis.
Work and like you don't have tobe the expert in this.
But you need to know enough andthen, you know what I'm saying?
Connect to people like, no, Ithink that's beautiful.

(01:02:00):
Yeah.
I.
I love it.
This is that medication canreally connect.
Yeah.
And you can, be like, Hey,here's some links here.
If it some things to refer.
It's just like whenever I say,Hey, these supplements X, Y, z
fit, like this result.
Exactly.
Exactly As to why we need to dothis.
I think it's the same for yoursoul, just like you said,
medicine for your soul.

(01:02:21):
Completely.
So that, that I'm excited about,again, just okay, everything in,
in its time, however it'ssupposed to happen, but.
Oh, I'm excited for you.
I'm excited for all the newthings you're gonna have.
I think you're gonna kill itwith Yeah, with like
spirituality and with skin andskincare and everything.
First off, if you guys are notseeing the video, which I would

(01:02:43):
like to upload on Spotify youare stunning.
Mikayla looks amazing, so herskin looks great.
Like I have to know what areyour, like top things Like do
you reach for.
Does your routine change whenyou're feeling like a certain
way or do you keep it about thesame?
Are you more aesthetic approachor are you more spiritual
approach whenever it comes toyour skincare?

(01:03:05):
I, my skin is super dupersensitive.
Like super sensitive so I don'tchange up things too much.
Like once I know somethingworks, then you know, we stick
with it.
Yeah, not a lot of deviation.
I love for seizures.
Like I love IPL.
Oh my goodness, I love ran.
Did my last.
Cool people who did like theDECA Duo.

(01:03:27):
Oh yeah.
You did that around your eyes,right?
Oh, we did the whole thing.
I really wanted to do that.
I love beautiful.
So the, yeah, stuff like that.
I love microneedling, I love allthose things, but I'm, but now I
view it as it's the cherry ontop, but with skin I definitely,
again, medical background, it'slike I love the hardcore stuff
and I used to be very anti, ifit looked pretty or it smelled
good or any, ugh.

(01:03:48):
It's fluff.
Like I don't want that, gimmethe serious stuff.
And I still want the seriousperformance stuff.
But I work with brand Little Foxand it's clean, it's.
It's amazing.
No, it's, I just, no's abeautiful line.
I used some of their products.
It's really nice.
It's, they put a lot of thought,I feel like, into their

(01:04:08):
formulation.
There's a lot of intention.
Everything, it's all in theviolet glass and everything's
luxurious and heavy and it does,it like, comes out and you can
like, hear it go the like withthe glass.
And like everything that I waslike, oh no.
There's stuff in our charts.
Again, I'm like, everything goesback to the chart.
But it, but that, it's like I'vealways been somebody, like I

(01:04:28):
said, eating disorder.
Like I've been really hard onmyself for so much of my life
and didn't allow myself to enjoythings.
And so that's where I think nowat 43 being like, I come from a
different mindset.
Yes.
Do I still get my talks?
And yes, do I still use my TazRack?
Absolutely.
But it's all supplemented by,very natural and very what I

(01:04:51):
feel like good for me, not justphysically, but good for my soul
type of stuff.
To take the nice baths and to,moisturize the body and
everything.
And in a way that's not like.
A chore or I am just slapping iton doing it in a way that feels
very loving is different.
It's like in the last few yearsI've really moved more into that

(01:05:13):
mindset.
So I.
Yeah.
Lots more body attention than Iever probably gave it in the
past.
Hey, that's good though.
You gotta help your cortisollevels, you gotta help with
stress.
Yes.
And I do think because I'm onthe medical side as well.
But I love I've always lovedfacial massage.
I've always loved like giving,just like I've always combined

(01:05:35):
it like a medical treatment.
And then with a little bit oflove, if I have someone numbing,
yes.
I'm usually giving them aoutmassage or, or I'm sitting there
with them and I'm making surewe're going intensely over
things, to make sure they'recomfortable.
Like it's, I don't just leavethe room, yeah.
Like I, I'm there with themthroughout it, and I think that
there is something to be saidabout when.

(01:05:57):
I don't know how we're tyingthis into the treatment room.
Somehow I have.
But you just, like you're sayinghow you're starting to take care
of everything.
I think it's the same thingwhere if you're an aesthetician,
like you have to take care ofyourself.
You have to do these thingsbecause if not, at the end of
the day, you're gonna burn outand you also have to overperform
because we are in a saturatedindustry, totally.

(01:06:19):
Totally.
Like what, so this is where Ithink the chart what sets you
apart energetically And thenalso yeah.
How can you be just that muchmore, it's funny that you think
about a scalp massage whileyou're numbing.
So the yoga nras that I producethat puts you into this very
deep delta state that, talkabout like cortisol, all of

(01:06:40):
that, it's so crazy.
Puts you into it's justpeaceful.
So restful.
There's so much science tosupport this now, thank
goodness.
And I've told people, I'm like,if your person's numbing for
half an hour.
That's, you need to put this onfor them oh my gosh, I'm gonna
do it.
It's, they're gonna be so mucheasier to work on like truly.
They're truly worse then becausewe've all had that person where

(01:07:03):
I've gone to treat them andthey're like, this treatment
hurts so much more than lasttime.
And they may be around the same.
Part in their cycle, so it'snot, their period or ovulation.
And I'm like, and you can't justflat out tell them you just told
me like you're getting adivorce, or your son's doing bad
in school and you've been havingto pick him up.
There's.

(01:07:23):
So many factors here withstress, and it does contribute
to everything that we do.
Our beauty skin our inside out,beauty it all goes together.
It's all stress related, so it'sall stress, every no truly
right?
You're like, oh, that's, it'sgonna break you out.
It's gonna do all the things.
It's gonna give you wrinkles andall that.
So I'm very much about findingall the ways to, to de-stress.

(01:07:46):
Like what are the tools andyeah, so doing that, okay, we're
gonna microneedles, I'm numbingyou.
And you're like, all right, itis gonna take this long anyway.
Why not pop this on and let theperson just totally go into that
parasympathetic state.
There's nothing worse thansomebody who can't sit still and
you're like, I wanna give youthe best treatment and if you
keep moving, I can't do that.

(01:08:08):
So I'm like, this is a nicelittle workaround, to help them.
And the crazy thing is that itwill help them heal faster as
well.
Yes.
cause they're worse then they'reless inflammation.
All of it is, it actually causesyour brain to reduce delta
waves.
And that means like tissueregeneration, cell growth,
cytokines, like no joke.

(01:08:30):
Like this actually is incredibleaging, and it's just listening
to something.
It's not a meditationtechnically it's its own thing,
it's a whole process.
But it's like they're about halfan hour long.
It's we all need, you're gonnanumb.
Numb in our life.
Yes.
Yes ma'am.
I call it energetic beautysleep.
That's what I put out because Iput the frequencies in the
background and special likebeauty, affirmation words and

(01:08:52):
things to reprogram yoursubconscious.
But yeah, no, that's.
That's amazing.
That's beautiful.
It's about to cut us off.
McKayla, it was amazing to haveyou on.
Thank you so much again.
You are incredible.
And you guys all have to checkher out.
Everything will be in the shownotes below.
Yes, please do.
Would love to.

(01:09:12):
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Oh, you're so welcome.
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