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June 23, 2025 21 mins

Montel Williams is Up+Adam! What happens when a 36,000-ton aircraft carrier gets torpedoed in WWII, its rudder jammed, and it starts spinning helplessly in enemy waters? In most timelines, it’s the end of the story. But in Montel Williams’ new book The Sailing of the Intrepid, it’s just the beginning.

On today’s episode, Adam welcomes Montel…yes, that Montel for a conversation that’s part history, part masterclass in resilience. They dive into the wild true tale of the USS Intrepid, the crew that refused to surrender, and the 3,000-square-foot sail that steered her 3,000 miles home.

Along the way, Montel opens up about his own “rudder jam” moments, from surviving a stroke to reimagining what heroism really means after decades in uniform and under the lights.

Whether you’re a history buff, a military mind, or someone just trying to sail through chaos, this one’s for you.

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