Upside Down People
Every week on Upside Down People Podcast we’ll have authentic conversations with Jesus-loving people diving into some aspect of faith, life, history, culture, politics & more and, with curiosity, our hope is to discover the truth of a living a life marked by the love of Jesus. We would love to hear from you!! If you have a guest/topic suggestion or want to find out how you can support the show email us at www.upsidedownpeople.org/contact-us
Episodes
Tenielle Neda and John Van Deusen are acclaimed Christian artists whose music reflects their deep faith and creative journeys.
In a world where artists face pressure to conform or chase trends, how can faith shape authentic creativity? Join us for an inspiring conversation from the Origin Collective Gathering, where Tenielle and John share how their relationship with Jesus transforms their art, the struggles of balancing creativ...
Makoto Fujimura is a leading contemporary artist and an influential voice in exploring the intersection of creativity, faith, and love.
In a world obsessed with justifying work and productivity, why does art matter, and how does it reflect the abundant love of God? Join us as we dive into the profound connection between creativity and divine love, exploring how every act of creation—from painting to plumbing—can be an expression...
Dr. Christopher Watkin is a Christian scholar, author, and professor renowned for his works like Biblical Critical Theory and his deep dive into the intersections of philosophy, theology, and culture.
In an age marked by a "meaning crisis," where individuals wrestle with identity and purpose, how can a biblical worldview offer a path to true flourishing? Why do we swing between chasing fleeting desires and striving for rigid self-co...
Natalie Runion is a USA Today bestselling author, speaker, worship leader, and founder of Raised to Stay, a ministry encouraging those wrestling with faith and church challenges to remain committed to Jesus and His Church.
In this moment Caleb & Natalie talk how healing from church hurt is a journey, not a destination, the importance of creating spaces for questions, embracing vulnerability, and walk ing together towards hea...
John Dickson is an Australian historian, author, and speaker who advocates for Christianity through his Undeceptions podcast and over 20 books, while teaching Biblical Studies and Public Christianity at Wheaton College.
In this episode of the Upside Down People podcast, Caleb Gray explores how recognizing our blind spots shapes our spiritual journey and relationships, diving into the Gospels with John Dickson for guidance, humil...
Karl Faase is an Australian Christian communicator, cultural commentator, and CEO of Olive Tree Media.
In a world where new atheism has faded and spirituality is making a surprising comeback, why are people turning back to faith, and what role does the historical figure of Jesus play in this cultural moment? Join us as we explore the shift in modern belief systems, the hunger for meaning, and how churches can engage with a generatio...
Luke Cawley is a Christian communicator, author, and Christian innovator based in the UK. In a world searching for meaning, many people sense there’s “something” more out there—neither fully atheist nor religious, but curious. How can we explore this vague sense of “somethingism” and move toward clarity, particularly through the person of Jesus?
Tune in to hear why people are increasingly open to spiritual exploration, how to engage...
Noddy Sharma is a thought leader, founder of Able Movement, and passionate advocate for engaging the next generation in faith, community, and purpose. In a world driven by digital connection and individualism, how do we foster authentic relationships and guide young people toward meaningful spiritual formation?
Expect to learn why emotional intelligence is critical for building relationships, how to create safe spaces for vulnerabil...
Luke Smith is an entrepreneur, small business owner, podcaster, and friend.
Humans face challenges that can shake their sense of purpose, yet some find a way to turn pain into meaning. Luke Smith, host of the Australian Lawn and Garden Podcast, shares his journey of battling a chronic autoimmune condition, navigating family upheaval, and finding purpose through faith and resilience. How can we find meaning in the midst of suffering,...
Scott Morrison is a former Australian Prime Minister and author of Plans for Your Good.
As a leader navigating faith, politics, and a polarised media landscape, Morrison faced unprecedented challenges like bushfires, COVID-19, and geopolitical tensions. How does personal faith shape leadership in a secular world, and how can one remain authentic amid public scrutiny and cultural shifts?
Expect to learn how Morrison’s faith guided his...
Why do you do what you do?
Tyler Zach is an Enneagram expert and coach and explores how the Enneagram uncovers the hidden motivations behind our actions. As a former pastor and host of the Ennea Summit, Tyler shares how this powerful tool can be used to transform your life, career, relationships and faith, and approach to life’s challenges, from infertility to redefining success.
We cover:
-How the Enneagram reveals the why behind y...
In this episode, Caleb Gray is joined by Professor John Swinton, Scottish theologian and disability theology pioneer, to explore how lament, mental health, and disability can reshape our faith.
John shares profound insights on embracing the Psalms’ raw honesty, redefining discipleship for all, and building inclusive Christian communities that reflect Jesus’ upside-down love.
KEY CHAPTERS:
00:00 Introduction to Professor John Swinton
04...
How does a creative spark transform faith and build thriving communities?
Shannon Hinkle is a visionary artist, faith leader, and the driving force behind The Origin Collective, fostering spaces where creatives and believers thrive.
Shannon joins Caleb Gray on The Upside Down People Podcast to share her passion, journey, and the transformative power of art in faith.
From Fremantle, Australia, she’s building intentional communities thr...
In this episode, Caleb Gray is joined with Ainsley Freeman, author of Impress, speaker and children's ministry pastor, to explore how we can pass on faith to our kids with intention.
Ainsley shares practical wisdom on resisting the urge to be “impressive” and instead embracing storytelling, spiritual rhythms, and a countercultural approach to parenting.
KEY CHAPTERS:
00:00 Introduction to Ainsley Freeman and Her Work
12:33 Understandi...
What drives someone to run 100 miles and keep going?
Stephen Parker is an ultra marathon runner, author of There Is No Finish: The Ultra Backyard Story (foreword by Backyard Ultra founder Lazarus Lake) , and the Associate Academic Dean for the Australian College of Ministries.
Stephen joins Caleb Gray on the Upside Down People podcast to share the grit, faith, and community behind his extraordinary journey.
He has tackled grueling ra...
Sarah Beisly is the co-founder of The Loyal Workshop, a Kolkata-based social enterprise empowering women trafficked into the sex trade through dignified employment. Originally from New Zealand, she’s driven by faith and a passion for justice.
In this episode, we cover:
- The gritty realities of the sex trade and how deception traps women.
- Why building trust is the foundation of freedom.
- The wild challenges of the workshop’s first two...
How is faith tied into a lawn mowing side hustle that turned into a million dollar legacy empire? Are you chasing instant gratification instead of lasting purpose?
Jim Penman's an entrepreneur, a faith-driven visionary, and today he’s on The Upside Down People Podcast for his most inspiring conversation yet. From atheist academic to Christian trailblazer, he’s unpacking the journey that redefined his life and business.
Millions know ...
Makoto Fujimura is a renowned contemporary artist, known for contemplative abstract works that integrate traditional Japanese techniques with contemporary expressions of faith and beauty.
Makoto’s journey as an artist has been deeply shaped by his understanding of God's love and the transformative power of creativity. He believes that art should be a reflection of love, not just a product to be consumed.
In this conversation, Makoto ...
How can the church better support those dealing with trauma? Dr. Steve Midgley shares his insights on how faith and empathy can lead to healing.
Steve is a psychiatrist turned pastor, Executive Director of Biblical Counselling UK, and co-author of Mental Health and Your Church. In this episode, Caleb Gray and Dr. Steve Midgley dive into the importance of understanding trauma and the church's role in helping individuals find comfort ...
Faith, vulnerability, and transformation are not things we either have or don’t—they’re things we cultivate. Strahan Coleman, a unique voice in spirituality, shares his powerful journey through chronic illness, faith, and the transformative power of prayer. Learn how to invite God into deeper parts of your heart through vulnerability and prayer.
Moments: These episodes are where Caleb revisits and highlights impactful segments from ...
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