Exploring Sasquatch Lore and Legends with Thomas Sewid

Tom Sewid, a distinguished Sasquatch investigator and Kwakwa Kiwa First Nations member, takes us on an enthralling expedition into the heart of Sasquatch lore. With his unique blend of cultural heritage and field expertise, Tom shares the latest from his adventures in Forks, Washington, where he's become an integral part of the community at Sasquatch Legend.com. His engaging tales of Sasquatch sightings around the Olympic Peninsula offer a new lens through which we can examine these mystical beings, pulling us into stories that have captivated generations.

Our episode ventures into the mysteries surrounding the elusive white Sasquatches. Are they a product of genetic anomalies, or do they represent a different species altogether? Tom's insights draw parallels between Sasquatch behaviors and tribal customs, speculating on how environmental factors may influence their enigmatic appearances. We also explore the fascinating dynamics of Sasquatch communication and territory markings, unveiling how these creatures might interact with their surroundings in ways that echo ancient traditions and hint at their place within the natural world.

Join us as we navigate through Sasquatch investigations, exploring the Pacific Northwest's rich tapestry of legends and the seasonal behaviors of these creatures. From adventurous river tours on the Ho River to strategic tips for aspiring Sasquatch hunters, Tom brings a wealth of knowledge and humor. We also touch on the broader implications of recognizing Sasquatch as an Indigenous tribe, the ethical challenges of evidence gathering, and the potential impacts on government policies. Our journey wraps up with a heartfelt gathering in Forks, where stories and camaraderie flow as freely as coffee and tea at the Sasquatch Legends store.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Northwest home for paranormal.
You're listening to usphenomenon, with your host,
Mario Magana, From the PacificNorthwest, in the shadow of the

(00:22):
1962 World's Fair, the SpaceNeedle.
Good evening, I am your host,Mario Magana.
This is Northwest or USPhenomenon?
Wow, I haven't said that insuch a long time.
Tonight we have a fascinatingguest.
He is the renowned Sasquatchinvestigator.

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A member of the Kwakwa KiwaFirst Nations tribe in northern
Vancouver Island, Canada.
He has dedicated decades toexploring the wilderness of the
Northern Islands and across theUnited States.
He is the founder of thepopular Facebook group Sasquatch

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Island, where he shares hisextensive knowledge and
experience with Sasquatch.
His unique perspective combinedtraditions of the Kwakwaka'w
stories with his own bushcraftand Kiwa stories with his own
bushcraft and hunting experience, offering comprehensive

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understanding of these elusivecreature.
In addition to hisinvestigation work, he is deeply
involved with the preservationof sharing the culture, the
history of his tribe,particularly the stories and the
ceremonies related to, Ibelieve, if this is right, the

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Juniqua, the Sasquatch figure inthe Quackaw-Kiwa culture.
His passion for both hisheritage and his research make
him a captivating storytellerand respected figure in the
Sasquatch community.
It is my pleasure to welcomeback.

(02:11):
If I can figure out how to turnmy own camera back on Tom
Seawood to US Phenomenon.
Welcome back to the show man.
It's been forever.
It's been a while, that's forsure it has been.
Thanks for having me back on.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Hey, it's been a while, that's for sure it has
been.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Having me back on, hey, it's always a pleasure to
have you on, you know, for thosewho don't know you, I mean I
know I saw you on a documentaryman like I.
I can say this now, this wasfour years ago because it was
like pandemic time when I sawyou on the, this podcast girl,
she, I think her name wasbigfoot girl or something like

(02:46):
that yeah, and um, I was just, Iwas like, wait, here I am, you
know, being all like huffy andpuffy.
I'm like, wait, she, these guysare podcasters and they have
their own tv show.
And so I'm all like all huffyand puffy, like why don't I have
my own tv?
And clearly, as soon as it gotto the part where they decided

(03:07):
to go do this investigative workin and they were on the island,
right, they came to Victoria,or well, to Vancouver Island, to
do some investigative work, butthey came with you.
And then after that it was likedude, why is this guy not doing
, why is he not the podcast guy?
And it just to me.
I after that it was like dude,why is this guy not doing, why
is he not the podcast guy?
And um, it just to me.

(03:28):
I felt like I was like, wow, hejust stole the show.
So you've always been, as I'vealways been, captivated by the
story and rich uh history thatyou shared on that piece.
But, tom, I know some of theexperiences that we've talked
about.
This time of year it changes thefall season's here.
There's so much to cover.

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We have to cover on the showthis evening podcast For those
that are watching.
Feel free to send us a text or,if you're listening,
775-990-5151.
Tom, what the heck have youbeen doing?
I know I've seen some stuff onyour website and some stuff on
the Instagram and Facebook Inregards to you now doing because

(04:13):
you're out, not in Kent, butyou're out in.
Is it Squim?
You're out in Squim now, right?
No, I'm in Forks, washington.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Forks In the.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Olympic Peninsula.
That's right.
I mean, all the girls areprobably really mad at me now
that twilight, all the twilightfans are like oh, he's not that
you know.
Wrong place, mario.
Wrong place, no, but you're outthere in twilight town.
yeah, you are in twilight town,so let's talk about, um, what's
been going on out there?
And I mean, the summer is nowlong gone.
Well, it's now gone, we're inthe autumn, but what happened

(04:50):
this summer up there, witheverything up there and that
being the national park up there, the Olympic National Forest
being in the area Within yoursummer research, what has been
some of the stuff that has beencollected this summer from what
your accountants have been?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, the main thing is I have.
Last week, april I took a jobwith Sasquatch legendcom, which
has a store and an online storeand here in Forks, washington,
and they needed a worker.
So I came out intending to putmaybe four weeks in and then go
back home to Kent, washington,and enjoy the summer, but after

(05:29):
three weeks here, you know, Idecided that I really liked this
job.
It's, you know, you got mynative art, like the shirt that
I'm wearing, that we make andsell and they have numerous
designs of mine shower curtains,bath mats, tumblers, cups, you
name it.
They, they make it with thedesigns of sasquatch and a lot
of it has my stuff on it.
And then you meet all thesepeople coming in the store and

(05:52):
every week I get one or tworeports of from tourists, people
from around the us and canadacoming here that have seen a
sasquatch on the side hills,when they're driving on the
olympic peninsula or crossingthe road in front of them before
day, before that day break, oreven at night.
One guy had one run acrossthere just by a bridge.
So working at the store opensup a lot of encounter reports

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for me and and mainly on theOlympic Peninsula.
But I hear people from aroundthe US and Canada, you know,
giving me reports.
Even South America and CentralAmerica people that come in as
tourists share with me theirstories of Sasquatch.
So it's pretty interesting onthat level.
But, number one, I get apaycheck and I get money for the
art that I produce as well, andI live right here in downtown

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Forks.
But the best part is I'm on theOlympic Peninsula and we all
know the Olympic project withDerek Randles, shane Corson and
others.
They operate here too, and whenI first got here, you know I
reached out to them and parlayedand said you know, I'd like
your you know protocol andpermission if I can investigate
over in the Forks area.

(07:02):
And Shane just laughed he goes,tom, the Olympic Peninsula is
vast, he goes.
We don't even get over to theForks area, so have at it.
So that right away made me aninvestigator.
And you know where's the food?
I'm here in May.
So what are they eating?
The berries aren't out.
The fawn drop hasn't takenplace yet.

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I thought the salmon andsteelhead weren't in the river
systems.
But once I started talking tothe locals I found out that the
salmon and steelhead are yearround on the rivers throughout
the Olympic Peninsula, which is,you know, amazing, because up
in British Columbia the salmonstart coming in and about end of
July and run through untilabout the end of November and

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that's it.
And then the winter steelheadwill come in but the stocks are
so depleted by overfishing andlogging damage and by seal and
sea lion predation that there'shardly any steelhead in our
river systems in BritishColumbia South.
But out here it's a wholedifferent story, you know, it's
just abundant salmon and trout.

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And you can tell because whenyou're by the rivers, like I was
today with Peggy investigating,there's flocks of merganser
ducks which eat baby salmon andtrout, and they're all over the
place.
And then you have the deer, theelk, the elk, and peninsula is
surrounded in beaches, so at lowtide the buffet table set for

(08:28):
the sasquatch and other humans.
So it's a really unique place,the olympic peninsula, and it's
on like donkey kong when itcomes to sasquatches.
We even get reports of whitesasquatches here on the olympic,
the map you're seeing that's myVancouver Island map and when
you click the icons a littlewindow comes up explaining what

(08:50):
was encountered or heard ortrack saw.
But on the Olympic Peninsula wejust finished, we're still
working on a map but it's active.
We just don't have it up onSasquatchIslandcom yet but it's
soon to come and uh, peggy's gotsome traveling to do my wife
and when she gets time she'llput the olympic peninsula map up

(09:11):
so everyone can see the reportsthat uh, my friend, carrie
kilmurry, who makes the map,that she pulled from the
internet and books and other youknow recordings and then also
the reports that I've beengathering almost on a weekly
basis, two or three reports fromthe Olympic Peninsula about
people seeing them.

(09:32):
But one of the things thatreally captivates me about the
Olympic Peninsula is there'sfrom ocean shores, the Quinault
Indian tribes, territoriesnorthwards throughout the
peninsula peninsula.
There's reports of whitesasquatches and then the reports
vary from big ones to smallerones and so forth, which to me

(09:55):
you know right away.
When you hear of a whitesasquatch or a gray sasquatch
you automatically equate thatit's an elder and that's why
it's white.
Just like me I got white hairbecause I'm old.
Well, one of the things that Ithink that's going on in the
olympic peninsula is westernpuget sound area and through the
islands in the middle it'snothing but a mega city, and

(10:18):
down south you got aberdeen andwestport and all the way up to
the bottom end of Puget Sound.
So it's almost like theSasquatches on the Olympic
Peninsula are isolated in thepeninsula area due to the urban
sprawl that's gone up in thelast 150 years and, I think,
just like British Columbia andPrincess Royal and another

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island where we have white blackbears that aren't albino and
another island where we havewhite black bears that aren't
albino.
It's because they were isolatedafter the Ice Age on these
islands and interbreedinghappened which made the Kermode
bear the white black bear.
And I'm speculating, but youknow, I think that might be the
reason why we have whiteSasquatch sightings here on the
peninsula.
There might be some inbreedinggoing on, because I noticed that

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when I was in omaha indianreserve, which is an enclave of
hardwood forest within theboundaries of the indian reserve
all around it is just corporatetype farms and flatlands.
But when I saw two sasquatchesand a fleur device in omaha
indian reserve, masonry,nebraska, what really caught my

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eye was the hang lip.
Both of them had hang lip likethey were a mongoloid almost,
and they had that glazed donutlike they got hit upside the
head with a two-by-four stunnedlook about them as these two
Sasquatches were just lopingthrough this field and I think
there's inbreeding going on inomaha indian reserve with

(11:48):
sasquatches and possibly here onthe olympic peninsula, which
when you say inbreeding, you'retalking within, within the the
sasquatch, their own littlegroup of individuals, right,
like so you're saying within thetribe of a sasquatch flock, I
guess is what we'll call it Idon't know what else to call it.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
So, if you have, you know what, however, that may be.
So, essentially this thesesmaller groups are sticking
together, but there's not, theydon't have the ability or
they're not moving around enoughto to meet.
I mean, maybe there should belike a, like a facebook dating

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for sasquatch.
I mean, not that they usetechnology, but uh, I mean, I
already have my own issues inregards to dating, but in
regards to, to to a bipedalcreature who doesn't use any
type of technology, this makesit very difficult and while you
were saying that about theinbreeding stuff, it made me
think about the 2020 pandemic,where most people who were

(12:54):
living in the city pushed outfurther into, like Shelton and
in other areas that were moredesolate, and I know that a lot
of people now go that are likein the back to work phase of
they're like, hey, you got to goback into the office, so like,
well, I don't, I don't live nearthe city anymore, I'm 150 miles

(13:14):
and the employer's like, well,we don't care.
But in regards to what you'rereferring to about inbreeding
and seeing white sasquatches,now, when you say white
sasquatches, a lot of peoplewhen you think of the white
Sasquatches Now, when you saywhite Sasquatches, a lot of
people, when you think of theSasquatch Bigfoot, you think of
a dark creature, right.
And then when we start to talkabout like a white Sasquatch, do

(13:39):
we start to think of likeAlaska, like, almost like some
type of like.
They're not the same.
I mean, what would change inregards to characteristics of a
white Sasquatch versus one beinghere and not being like some?

(14:00):
I don't know, I don't, I is.
Are there different types ofbreeds of Sasquatches?
Like I'm Latino, you knowyou're native American, or your
first nations tribe, you'reindigenous to, you know to this
area, but do Sasquatches playingthose same?
I guess?
I guess they would play in thatsame realm.
They would be different typesof Sasquatches, right?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I don't want to get into that because you know I can
only speak for where I've been.
You know, throughout westerncanada, northwest territories,
pacific northwest, you knowwashington state and omaha
indian reserve, our omaha area,but you know you do more than
likely there probably isdifferent species of hair
covered bipedal creaturesthroughout North America and we

(14:45):
get into the skunk ape and dogman and the muzzled looking
Sasquatch and then, uh, then thePacific Northwest, omaha,
canadian Sasquatch is, you know,basically just Patty and the
Paul Freeman footage and uh, uh,what do you call that
Independence Day film?
And then you got all thepictures and trail cameras and

(15:06):
they all seem to look alike.
But with the white, you know,sasquatch, we get reports that
go right back to the 1950s inCanada of a white Sasquatch
being seen.
So yeah, and then you hearabout you saw the photograph
that's from about 20 years agothe Pennsylvania white Sasquatch

(15:27):
.
And then there's other reportsin different states and
provinces and territoriesthroughout North America.
So yeah, more likely it's agecaused whiteness and grayness.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
So likely.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
The odd one that's probably just you know it's.
You know the one that was inPennsylvania that really opened
the door to white Sasquatches 20plus years ago.
You know it doesn't look likean albino, it doesn't have red
eyes, doesn't have reallywhitish skin.
So possibly that's, you know, agenetic, you know.
You know misfit, I guess youcould say, because he's not

(16:00):
black, brown or cinnamon, he wasborn white, possibly like that
white gorilla and other whiteanimals.
You know it happens.
But what I'm saying for theOlympic Peninsula, because we
have so many reports of whiteSasquatches out here I don't
think it's age, I think it's agenetic anomaly based upon
isolation within the peninsulaarea due to urban sprawl.

(16:22):
There's a wall of cities outthere to the east of the
peninsula.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Could it be something that they're eating, like maybe
shellfish, kelp or something ofthat nature that would change
the characteristics of?
I don't know.
I'm just, I'm not a scientist,but it's just me asking a silly,
me asking a question for maybesomeone who may be listening and
be like well, what if it's?
What if it's?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
environment I just spoke about.
The science is in on that.
Yeah, inbreeding causesdeformities and, uh, age causes
white and gray hair and you know.
But you know I have never heardof any hard science about what
your diet is will make you white.
You know, I've been eatingmcdonald all my life.
I'm still a red skin, I ain'twhite.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I mean, yeah, shout out to McDonald's.
You know, hey, yesterday was, Idon't remember they did some
crazy special.
Someone said that the McRib iscoming back.
For those who are McRib fans Agood friend of mine, a coworker
of mine, bigsby huge fan of theMcRib I'm not so much.
I even worked at McDonald's.

(17:28):
Shout out to McDonald's, lovedit when I worked there, Learned
some great skill sets, made me agreat hard worker, but I never
tried the McRib.
So for those out there, theMcRib is coming back.
We're not getting paid for this, clearly.
And the McRib is coming backthere.
We're not getting paid for this, clearly.
And the McRib meat is notBigfoot Sasquatch.
That is my indigenous, that'smy Bigfoot joke of the day.

(17:52):
But, tom, let's get back into.
You made some huge transitions.
You moved out to Forks.
You're you're working atSasquatch legends, the
storefront there.
I know that you did some socialmedia posts recently about
doing some tours.

(18:13):
Let's kind of get into thatreal quick about some of your
tours that you've done on theriver out there in Forge.
What are you guys seeing outthere when you're doing these
tours?
Are you seeing anything?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
So I had a vet, probably about mid-40s, show up,
big guy, and he introducedhimself and he's a guide for one
of the rafting companies goingdown the rivers here on the
peninsula and he's had somevocalizations, were heard, were

(18:45):
heard tree snaps, saw somepartial tracks and because he's
a hunter, mushroom picker andthen he's rafting the whole
river which gets you out in themiddle of Timbuk, nowhere off,
because you're, you know, waywest of the highway where the
river flows, so he invited meout and I guess it was july when
we went down.
It's when we had their firstreally hot week and him and I

(19:08):
jumped in the raft rightbasically at the gate of the
whole rainforest state park.
We, just before the gate, weturned down a little dirt road
down to the river, back thetrailer in, jumped in the raft
and we floated down and we wentto this area where his uh boss,
who's a sports fishing guy withboats on the whole a week prior,

(19:30):
was anchored out below these uhglacier, alluvial till cliffs,
basically cobbles and sand andthis big steep wall of this bank
and trees on top of course, andthey were fishing there and he
texted my friend and saidthere's a monster up there.
I can hear it running aroundcracking trees and making noise

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in the bush.
So he pulled anchor, wentdownstream.
And that wasn't the firstencounter and other guides that
go up and down the river andother people exploring have come
across so many Sasquatchencounters on the whole river.
So we stopped at those bluffson the sandbar and he was
showing me where this noise hadtaken place the week before and

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everything.
And I'm looking at it and thefirst thing that came to mind
was the Olympic project and allof the research they've
conducted in salmon-bearingspawning grounds with steep
banks, with impenetrable bush toget up into there.
That's where they're findingwhat they call a nest, the beds
of sasquatches made fromhuckleberry branches, and they

(20:35):
have.
You know, if you go to theOlympic Project on YouTube and
their website, it's justphenomenal the amount of
research they're conducting.
It's almost equivalent to DianeFlossey, jane Goodall, how
in-depth they're getting withthese nests and other things.
So I looked at it and said, yeah, it stands to reason, there are
going to be nests up there.
We've got to get in there.
So he said, well, let's do thelower drift tomorrow.

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So the next day we did thelower drift where we pulled the
raft out by the Highway 101bridge.
There's a campsite there.
We pulled the raft out.
The next morning we launchedfrom there and we went down the
lower Ho River towards the mouth.
But we stopped just before theIndian Reserve boundary, the Ho
tribe.

(21:17):
But as we're going down thelower, drift that next day I was
like, hey, look, there's ateepee structure.
And he's like what I said I'venever noticed.
That day I was like, hey, look,there's a teepee structure.
And he's like what I saidbecause I've never noticed that.
And I said yeah, there's oneright there.
And we get a little further andI'm like, hey, there's another
one, let's go take a look at it.
So we got out of the raft and Iwalked up to this.
Uh, it was a peninsula, anoxbow on the river, and it had

(21:39):
been clear.
Um, it's all grass in there andbroom bushes.
But then there was three teepeestructures against the trees.
And he asked me he goes, whatis it?
And I said this is a Sasquatchboundary, more than likely
between the saltwater lower partof the whole river Sasquatch

(21:59):
clan and the ones furtherupstream.
They're just Indian tribes, sothey're going to have their
tribal boundaries.
Sure, just like every tribe hasthroughout North America and
not as much nowadays they'readhered to.
But back in the old days, in mytribe, we still adhered to our
tribal territories within theKwakwaka'wakw Nation, and
Sasquatch is no different.

(22:21):
And then we pulled over toanother spot because it looked
like a really good area for elkand deer crossing the lower hole
, no different.
And then we pulled over toanother spot because it looked
like a really good area for elkand deer crossing the lower hole
and we pulled over, we found anarea where there was two
roundish boulders that were justat the edge of the trees and to
me I just said more than likely.
We looked at, you know, whenthe river's running high and

(22:41):
everything, it just was out ofplace that he would be water
flow would have put, would havereached that spot and put those
two big boulders there and Isaid it's more than likely, with
the sign of elk and deer andother animal tracks.
It's a jump zone for asasquatch to come and lay in the
bush and right there is thisrock.
So if a deer and elk comes out,he just grabs that rock and

(23:03):
boom, hits it in the head orit's those in its ribs, jumps on
it, breaks its neck and nowhe's got food.
And you always got to rememberand that's you know, one of my
uh uh things that I've alwayseducated people is what we can
do with a 22 single shot shotiron sight rifle with the long
rifle bullet.
A Sasquatch can do with a rock.

(23:25):
So in other words, you knowthey're expert at throwing rocks
and hitting the deer orsomething on the head, killing
it.
And you know when you hearSasquatch is throwing rocks at
humans, you know they're always.
It was over there 30 feet or 50feet.
You know you never hear aboutthe human that got a bullseye
laser beam rock in the headbecause they become part of

(23:47):
David Polaitis, missing 411.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
We laugh.
But that seems to be somethingthat I've talked about a lot on
the show people who have gonemissing, who have been either
experts and we we maybe they'reseasoned hikers, people who
adventure, and something that Ithink I've told you and I've

(24:14):
always been very careful toalways share with our listeners
and people who are a part of theshow.
If you're going to hike, doyour thing, but you got to
remember you're going to hike,do your thing, but you got to
remember you're not the onlyperson on your hike.
You're in mother nature.
You are now outside of your owncomfort, of your modern day
lifestyle.

(24:34):
You're going back to be a partof something.
Your technology may not alwayswork in these certain areas, you
know you come in with expertgear.
You come in, you know, wellprepared, but things always
change within your, within yourown little scope of world.

(24:56):
You may have a storm that maybrew in and, you know, come
right into your whole situation.
You may be encounter livestock,you may encounter a bear, you
may encounter a Sasquatch.
For all I know, I don't know,but it does happen.
People do go missing in theseregards to you know, obviously
more, more people go missing inthe national parks.

(25:19):
But the reason why I say thatis because that's where a lot of
people like to go hiking.
And in this case I mean whenyou talk about that area, the
Olympic Mountains, that wholeproject, as you were talking
about the Olympic project,there's a vast, a lot of land to

(25:41):
be covered there and it's nottouched, it's it?
There is so much where, youknow, a Sasquatch can make its
own making, it can maneuver andfeel safe without having to the

(26:06):
modernization of of humanspushing through through an area.
So, um again, why, why wouldthis happen?
I mean, clearly, I know thatwe've had these discussions
before, tom, but maybe not.
Someone who may be newlistening to the show may not
understand.
Sasquatches don't really careabout humans, right, they don't?
I mean they don't, they're notlooking to hunt and kill humans,
um, no, it's just, you knowthey're hate us, despise us,

(26:29):
loathe us, fear us.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
We have nothing good to gain them.
And they know that.
And you know it's like, uh,pretty interesting.
I was on social media yesterdayand someone artist produced a
painting that I seen seen of aSasquatch hiding behind a tree
looking at a battle of the CivilWar and it was so poignant it

(26:51):
brought it all together.
And I even remember one time,you know, like we all know,
sasquatch or Peekers are alwayspeeking in windows and you know
how many reports do we get ofthat.
You know I remember I spoke onetime to some people and I said
you know I remember as a kidsitting there eating my cereal
in the morning waiting for JPPatches to come on the

(27:13):
Seattle-based television network, that we got up in British
Columbia, in Vancouver, and ofcourse I had to watch Walter
Cronkite end his newscast forthat morning.
And I remember every morningsitting there eating my cereal.
It was the same old thingVietnam, helicopters wounded
American soldiers dead,vietnamese.

(27:33):
You know I was mortified bythat as a kid.
You know that here I am ingrade one two watching all of
this Vietnam War.
And you know you can justimagine, you know you look at
what we take for granted and wejust think it's nothing to watch
all of these.
You know, be it crime drama,with all the gore on TV and the

(27:57):
war movies, we watch the Westernmovies.
We watch the what do you callit movies.
We watch the Western movies.
We watch the what do you callit movies we watch.
The most entertaining ones areblood and gore.
Can you imagine Sasquatchessitting down and talking about
us?
And you know they're probablysaying you ever look in the
windows of those hairlessbuggers?
Everything that's flashing onthat thing on there they sit in

(28:20):
front of is just violence, evil,hatred, blood.
What's wrong with these bipedalpeople?
We should stay well clear ofthem.
They're twisted.
I was so much time in the bushbecause I hated humans in the
early 1990s.
I know what it's like to lookat my fellow humans and just my

(28:41):
stomach would turn.
And I know that's whatsasquatches do when they see us
as well.
You know there's a reason whythey grimace at you and show
teeth they want you scared.
So you turn, put your tailbetween your legs and get the
hell out of there.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
They don't want anything to do with us our guest
tonight, tom seawood, from uhsasquatchislandcom, also working
up in forks, washington, atsasquatch legends.
Um tom, when you and I firstmet and chatted and I know that
you've done so many of thesedifferent types of expeditions,

(29:16):
I think, right now, being fallseason, this is a transition for
the bipedal creature, right?
I mean we're talking.
Things are changing.
Berries are leaving.
You know those types of thingsare changing.
Are they spending?
Do they transition during thistime?

(29:37):
Do they move towards, insteadof being in the mountains, more
maybe towards rivers and streamsto find their food?
Are we looking more towards?
Like someone like myself maysay you know what?
I want to go out and I want toinvestigate a Sasquatch.
Maybe I should go and look forone During this time of year.

(30:00):
Where are most individuals whomay be interested, other than
let's just say they do want togo out there, tongue in cheek
and say, yeah, I'm going to gofind Sasquatch.
Where are we sending peoplethese days?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well, you're me in Forks, Washington.
You're not going to jump inyour vehicle and charge down to
Mount Hood because it's inOregon, because it's supposed to
be a Sasquatch hotspot.
Because it's in Oregon, becauseit's supposed to be a Sasquatch
hotspot, right?
That's ridiculous and that'swhat most people do.
I find what you do is you lookin your backyard.
You know, within an hour driveradius of where you're based,

(30:34):
and Google Earth.
You look at where's this timeof the year we're in the first
week of October, where there'splum orchards, apple orchards,
crab apples, what do you call it?
Salmon streams, becausesalmon's full on right now.
Sure, corn fields that arestanding, potato patches that
are still in the ground rightnow.
That's where you want to look,because it's a time of abundance

(30:57):
right now for sasquatches andfor humans.
You know you just got to.
We went out today and you know Iwas looking for Chanterelle
mushrooms but I didn't find verymany.
But if I spent the day pickingI would have probably filled up
two, five gallon buckets.
So it's a time of abundance andfor the Sasquatches, you know
it's right now, it's salmon time.
Another, whatever, anotherthree weeks from now four weeks.

(31:21):
We time another whatever,another three weeks from now,
four weeks we're going to be inthe monsoon season and two weeks
into that monsoon season therivers are going to be up into
flood conditions, if notflooding, and it's going to be
too deep and too much velocityof current and too muddy for the
sasquatch to really do any goodsalmon harvesting.
And they're going to come andyou'll see probably an increase

(31:42):
throughout the Pacific,northwest Washington State and
Oregon of the urban edgeSasquatch activity coming into
our backyards for ourgreenhouses, our fruit trees,
our gardens.
You know we go out in themiddle of to end of October and
we dig up all our potatoes andeverything we got in the garden.
Well, you can still go there inJanuary and re-dig your garden
and you'll find some morepotatoes and the Sasquatches

(32:04):
know that we've left some foodin the ground.
And then, of course, we haveour compost boxes and bins that
are just filled with foods for aSasquatch.
They've been known to go intoour outbuildings for livestock
and poultry food as well.
As well, as you know, somepeople leave out in their, in
their shed, dog food, horse feed, bags of carrots.

(32:26):
Then you have the cattle farmsthat have piles of grain inside
the granaries.
You know, I've seen this quitea few times and you know darn
well they're going there forfood.
But then there's a some that aretheir clan territories, aren't
anywhere near the urban edge, oran apple orchard or a cornfield
, you know, like the olympicpeninsula, some of the rivers

(32:47):
that are out towards thenorthwest tip.
You know, um, they're probablyyou know probably less than 50
humans hiked out to some ofthose rivers this summer and
during the winter.
Another three weeks from now,when there's less sun and more
clouds, the clams are going tocome online, meaning that right

(33:08):
now they're like in the summer,they're filled with plankton and
photoplankton, so they're greenand they taste terrible.
But another three weeks fromnow the clams are going to be
white.
That means there's lessplankton in the water, so they
just get all fluffy.
We call it full of white meat,no green.
The Sasquatch is going to go forthat.

(33:30):
There's the limpets, thechitons, the mussels, and the
list goes on, when that tide islow.
So whenever there's a big lowtide exchange through the month,
the sasquatch is going to moveto that beach area.
Some of them probably justharvest, mostly from the beach
anyway, because you've gotyear-round food there at all

(33:51):
tide stages.
So you take in the washed inislands of seaweed and kelp and
dig through it at the upper hightide mark on the beach and
there's all those little jumpingbugs like a crustacean and they
roll over rocks.
At low tide there's small crabsand eels and bullheads and then
all of a sudden there's awashed-in dead porpoise, dolphin

(34:12):
, seal, sea lion, octopus.
So there's always abundant food, even me.
When I was in Ocean Shores atone of the Sasquatch festivals
about six years ago, peggy and Iwent for a walk on the beach
and we came across three deadbirds.
You know seabirds that wereabout that big.
You know, maybe they got birdflu, who knows what happened out

(34:36):
on the water, but there wasthree birds.
Water, but there was threebirds.
And then Peggy and I go up toNeah Bay at the tip of the
peninsula this summer and we goout and walk on the beach.
Now what do I see?
A dead bird.
So the beach has always been aplace for abundant protein in
the Pacific Northwest and that'swhere the Sasquatches will be

(34:56):
going, and you know we're doingexpeditions here year-round.
I'm telling people, you knowtourists are leaving now it's
really quiet.
You don't see the?
No vacancy in forks, no more.
You see vacancy, then empty,emptier parking lots, sure?
So book with me throughsasquatch island.
Take a look at my expeditionspage, my schedule's your
schedule.
Phone me up and say, hey, I canbe there in October 24th, 25th,

(35:20):
26th, perfect, I'll put it onthe board.
Come on out, grab a hotel room,put your RV in a campsite or
whatever, and we'll go out.
In the daytime I'll teach youthings and we'll investigate and
I'll show you the beach zonesand the forest zones, the high
ground zones and urban edgezones, and then at night we'll

(35:40):
go out where we have a goodchance to see him, with my flurs
, forward looking infrareddevices and my listening with my
parabolic listening devices,spotlight P 1000, nikon trail
cameras.
Hopefully we can bingo a bighairy bugger and get some video
of it.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
It when we talk about these and and and.
Something that has always beencaptivating to me and and I've
had multiple conversations withpeople either saying, hey, mario
, this or that someone that willask do you believe that, do you
believe in sasquatch?

(36:17):
Is the first question theyasked me and I'm like I've never
seen one.
So I, I, I, I, you know it's apossibility.
There's, you know, therethere's so much land.
Yeah, it's a possibility.
My, the one thing that I alwaystell everyone, I and I tell you
, and you know this oh well,maybe it's a UFO or it's

(36:39):
cloaking and hold on, hold on,hang in with me for a second
there, tom.
But I always tell everyone I'mlike nah, nah, man, he's
indigenous to the planet.
These are indigenous to ourworld.
Here, I don't.
We have had others people comeon to talk about their versions

(37:02):
of what they believe it could be, and that's what the platform
is for is to be able to shareyour views and opinion,
obviously, but for me, I like tobelieve that my Sasquatch
Bigfoot is from here, and so forthose who may be like, oh's,
you know, it's ufo, good on you.
I mean, that's, that's yourthing.

(37:23):
For me, that's really.
It boils back to being he's.
Indeed, they are indigenous tothis planet.
Tom, I want to talk to.
I want to share a story that wasrelayed to me and, uh, give me
some advice on this or you canshare your thoughts on this.
I had a friend who went fishingyears ago on on a highway off

(37:43):
from mount rainier to adam andon this highway I don't know if
it was a highway road or if itwas a forest service road, I do
not recall that piece of thestory but they said they went
all the way out there and hesaid the fishing was just
fantastic, getting great becauseit was untouched and he was
getting such great fish.

(38:04):
One day he was out fishing andhe heard it was still quiet and
he heard these knocking noises.
He picked up his fishing rod,something.
He heard something I believe hesaid a rock was thrown.
He picked up his stuff packedup and he got out.

(38:25):
He knew there was somethingthere.
Later on, a friend of his wentfishing to the same place and
then shared the same story withhim.
He did not share that storywith that individual.
That individual came to him andshared his story and said hey,
have you gone fishing in thisarea.
Have you heard any knocking?

(38:46):
And that's when he said yeah, Iactually was fishing there a
couple of weeks ago and Idecided not to return back to
this day.
He has yet to go back to thatfishing hole near Mount um by
Adams Um.
To me I would say that he hadan encounter.

(39:06):
You know, maybe that was anencounter of some time.
That area is rich because it'sso dense and forest, Rainier
Adams, that whole area has gotthat, the dry trifecta of like
national forest, just untouchedland.
Oh yeah, it's like that.
Everywhere you forests, justuntouched land.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Oh yeah, it's like that everywhere, british
Columbia as well, and AlbertaSasquatches are.
To me they're just big, hairyhumans, they're members of the
other tribe, me.
I call them the perfect humansbecause they don't use permanent
shelter, fire weapons, don'thave warfare.
You know, we've never heard ofthat and we know, do know our

(39:45):
ancestors in north america ofthe north american indian ward.
With sasquatch there's apictograph of a picture on a
rock wall.
So anyway, to me, with thesasquatches, you know when in
british columbia, when go clamdigging, we don't just go
storming the beach at low tidebecause we know it's abundant at

(40:05):
this given area.
Now you've got to rememberwhere we clam dig up off
northeastern Vancouver Island inmy tribal territories.
It's the middle of nowhere.
So you don't just anchor yourboat out two and a half hours
before low water, jump into theskiff and go ashore and start
digging.
Two and a half hours before lowwater, jump into the skiff and
go ashore and start digging.
When you got there that day,you anchor out, you go ashore

(40:25):
and you take a look at the hightide mark, because it's high
tide at that time of the day andbecause most of the clam tides
are at night during the fall andwinter.
But you look and if you see anybroken shells of cockles a type
of shellfish or clams, piled upon the beach, scattered on the
beach on a rock, on a big driftlog, you get back in your boat,

(40:47):
go back up to the main boat,pull the anchor and go down the
beach a mile, or you know a gooddistance and go to another
shellfish beach and do the samething.
And if you see no broken shells, then you know that the
sasatches have are not there,because the broken shells are
the Sasquatches telling otherSasquatches and humans that

(41:08):
we're digging as this beachright now please give us respect
Go to another one.
There's a lot of beaches outthere.
So when you hear the numerousreports of people going to
rivers, be it walking a trail,hiking, fishing, just enjoying
the scenery, and there's treeknocks or breaks or shaking,

(41:29):
then the rock thrown into thewater.
All it is is Sasquatchreminding you.
Hey, how come you didn't, youknow, heed the sign.
There was a teepee structure asyou're coming down the hill or
as you're coming up river.
There was a tree break with atwist, and that was our sign
that we're fishing this part ofthe river right now.

(41:51):
Please leave.
It be, it's our property, ourterritory for harvest right now.
So that's what I'm finding isthe repetitive pattern of the
rocks thrown, the tree knocks,tree breaks and the human
putting the rod away or justskedaddling get the hell out of
there.
It worked.
The Sasquatch communicated tous and said respect me, I'm

(42:15):
fishing here at this part of theriver, Please leave.
And the humans do so.
Can we communicate with asasquatch?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
absolutely, they communicate with us constantly
but for those who may be uh I'mlooking for the word that may
not offend anybody, but more oflike, um, just not aware of
their surroundings and likeseeing a such a situation where
they're like, oh, that's odd,like, as you're saying, the tree

(42:45):
branches or the shellfish thathave been crushed in that area
or been uh, you know, beenharvested.
This is a great opportunity forpeople who are out there, who
are hiking, who are fishing andlooking and being a part of, you
know, outdoor activities, tolisten to these types of
warnings from an expert likeyourself, tom, because, look,

(43:07):
not everyone spends.
Most people nowadays areprobably spending more time
playing pickleball than they arehiking.
You know, and it's to be ableto say that most people who do
go hiking are kind of like yousaid, they're in their own
little world.
I know we've talked about thisbefore, but be aware of your
surroundings.

(43:27):
If you hear something you knowa tree knocking you know
something's going on in the area.
Maybe it's feral humans, maybeyou're about to be a part of.
You know Polite's missing 411report that's coming out.
You know the latest version ofit.
I don't, I mean.
These are why, these arereasons why you don't see me in

(43:49):
the national parks going for ahike.
I mean I go up there, I'll gofor the day, but I'm not putting
a backpack on.
You're not going to catch me upthere in a backpack on.
You're not going to catch me upthere.
I'm not becoming.
I'm not.
This sexy beast is not becomingsomeone's.
You know appetizer, you know alittle chimichanga for.
You know some indigenousbigfoot?

(44:11):
I'm not.
No way tom.
When we talk about thesedifferent areas and you know
we've done, you know the thelive shows in you know buckley,
washington, and we know wetalked about that Buckley area
being a hotbed for such excuseme for having Bigfoot sightings
and things of that nature Do youfind that where you're at now

(44:36):
you're having more people cometo you with reports versus out
more towards the mountains, orare you finding it to be similar
?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
in regards to the two , I saw this area, just rich
with reports, number one people.
You know Moccasin Telegraph,chatter Chatter small town.
Everyone's starting to knowabout the Sasquatch
investigating Indian managingSasquatch Legendcom and Forks.
And then Indian tribes that arehere, you know everyone knows

(45:07):
them as the Lopush or the Ho.
Well, they're actually Quileutetribe and the Quileutes you
know they've, you know I've beentalking with them and you know
the Marks and Telegraph thereand Facebook and Messenger it's
getting out that tom see was inthe area.
And then of course, sasquatchlegendcom.
People are coming in becausethey're tourists and you know

(45:28):
what better place than to givemy report of what we saw walk
across our highway and inphiladelphia area, you know.
So I'm getting everything right,from one kid coming in the
store first week of may andsaying a couple nights ago, the
sass, I live over there,three-quarter mile at the edge
of the wood in the 32-foottrailer, all of a sudden there

(45:48):
was a big bang in my trailer.
I was trying to shake and andI'm running for the door and I
open it the trailer quit shakingand they're walking across my
backyard is a big sasquatch thatgrimaced at me, turn and bolted
into the bush and stepped on mydead husky's grave.
You know the guy was likeoffended that how dare you,
sasquatch, step on my dead dog'sgrave?

(46:10):
You know which I understand.
And so I went out the next day,up and just outside my window
here, not a three quarter mileup on the hills window, here,
not a three-quarter mile up onthe hills going stealth and
breaking silhouette and crawlingand using windage to my
advantage, all my you know,decades of hunting skills and
living in the bush.
And the next thing, you know, Ihear a big sudden.

(46:30):
And then I just ran for the tipof that little hill I was on,
because that's where they sleep,and sure enough I could hear
gangbusters.
Two somethings go down the backside the forest just making a
bracket.
And when I got up there, youcan see where they're laid down
and resting.
You can put your hand down andfeel the warmth in the hemlock

(46:52):
needles and the duff of theforest.
So you know it's not rocketscience to find a Sasquatch.
You know, like I say, it's sayit's printing skills.
Yes, and Washington State's afree state.
You can carry concealed and openA lot of people, like what you
were saying earlier about.

(47:13):
I don't want to put a backpackon.
Why not Go down to the localstore and fill out some
paperwork, buy yourself ashotgun or a pistol, and you
know you feel like Rambo whenyou're out there now you ain't
scared of nothing If somethingdoes go sideways that one in
20,000 encounter that goessideways on you just like when I

(47:33):
lived in the bush my 12 gaugebouncing Betty was always with
me or a rifle.
But you know I did have thoseone.
You know you got to remember Iwas a bear hunting guide for
decades.
So you know I had hundreds ofbears.
I hunted many, many grizzlybears and you know, a couple of
times I did have that oneencounter with that black bear
that decided that I'm going tobe predatory and go after that

(47:56):
human.
And you know I let a warningshot out I remember one time
with my two 43 rifle and piercedhis ear.
You know that bear turned andhe was no longer going to be my
threat.
He took off.
So you know, pack something.
You know, and all these peoplenowadays with this mindset of.
Oh God I can't own a pistol orbuy a shotgun.

(48:18):
Well then, go out there.
He might end up being asteaming coiler of turd from a
sasquatch or a bear on the sideof the bush it's interesting to
me, tom, because I always bringup this story to you.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
We go back to uh, sam de ball, who was a um assistant
professor at the university ofwashington, um, I I one who
believed he was on the mothermountain trail of Mount Rainier
around this time of the season.
I think it was a couple ofyears ago.
Uh, during the October seasonfirst major storm came through.

(48:55):
He was doing the mothermountain trail.
I believe it's a 12-mile hikearound the mountain.
According to his family, he hadgone into the trail.
He was doing a day hike.
The weather changed immediately,bringing in a flood of rain,
washing out the bridge, makingthe trail uninhabitable for him

(49:21):
to complete the hike, unless heprobably went back the other
direction.
But in the Mother Mountain loopit was broken due to the, due
to the, you know, high rainvelocity during the storm.
The only thing, the only thingthey found from him, according
to his family, that he went inthe bush into the trail with a
backpack.
He he was going to stayovernight or however that was

(49:42):
supposed to play out, and he didnot return.
The only thing they found was awater container or his cantina.
Everything else was gone.
And to me.
I look at these types ofsituations.
It's unfortunate that thisgentleman is no longer here.
They haven't found him One.
Either the storm had gotten tohim, the weather inclement may

(50:05):
have changed drastically, or hemay have been a part of a huge
snowstorm, or again, this iswhere I come where the rest of
his stuff at.
Why haven't they found anythingof him other than a container
of a cantina or water bottle?
It's not like and that's that'swhere it gets really dicey.

(50:26):
Right, maybe he fell in acrevasse, but again, on this
trail it's just a regularmountain trail.
Sure, he could have fallen offand rolled off the cliff, but in
still, in these, these types ofsituation, nothing was found no
tent, no backpack, no clothing,nothing.
So it's unfortunate that inthese types of situations, when
you're hiking, these types ofpeople will go missing.

(50:48):
Experts who may be experts inhiking, tom, do we do?
We think in a lot of thesesituations, people take for
granted, you know, being able togo out for a hike, but we're
not thinking that sasquatchesare, you know, they're like hey,
by the way, I'm, you know, Imean we, as you said, turn you

(51:08):
into a hot pile of steam, youknow yeah, no, it's.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
You know you got a lot of the indian names
translated to english just aftercontact Cannibal giants,
cannibals from the mountains.
You know my tribe.
You know Chonakha is thecannibal.
She'll eat the misbehavingchildren.
And you know the list goes onwith tribes with.
You know translations ofsomething referring to human

(51:34):
killer.
Or you know cannibal Well theknow cannibal.
Well, indians know, if we'regoing to call a hair bipedal
bigger than us, hair-coveredcreature cannibal, then we know
what it is.
It's a human.
Because when a bear or a wolfor a cougar eats a human,
they're not a cannibal, they'rea man-eater, human-eater.
So right there, you know,there's the nail on the head.

(51:55):
The Indians know that they'rehumans and just like the human
population in Washington State,or actually, let's use the
Pacific Northwest, you knowAlaska, british Columbia,
washington, oregon, NorthernCalifornia, I bet you there's
one human out there that's acannibal that's killing people

(52:17):
as a psychopath and consumingthem.
Because we know in NorthAmerica the odd one has been
busted by the police and the FBIand so forth.
You know Hannibal the Cannibalsisn't just the movie.
There actually has been and arein prison or have been executed
people that were cannibals, andRussia.

(52:39):
Look at that.
One guy in Russia, how many?
Over a hundred and somethingpeople apparently killed in
eight.
So what we Indians know, as Iwas taught by Lucas White, an
Omaha tribe member, in Macy,nebraska, five, six years ago,
you watch out, tom.

(52:59):
When you find an area with alot of bones coyotes, birds,
deer you know he's speaking forwhere he lives in Nebraska area
he goes and it looks like theywere just killed for the fact of
being killed.
Or coyote up on a tree branch,or deer in branches, but the
meat's still there and you cansee from the decay that you know
nothing was really consumed.

(53:20):
He goes get the hell out ofthere.
That's a rogue area.
There's a rogue in the area.
You do not want to be around arogue and what that is is a
sasquatch that more than likelygot displaced as a family clan
leader by a younger, strongersasquatch.
Because that's nature, god'scode, it has to be.
It makes the geneticstrengthening and the bettering

(53:41):
of a species and just likehumans that get be told to get
out the beeping door.
You're never to be around me orthe kids again and your
girlfriend wife kicks you outand you lose everything.
You got no house you have.
You have.
No, you have to.
If you even can see yourchildren, which I suffered
through.
I couldn't even see my children, what I want to do, because my

(54:03):
ex is a social worker and she'snot Indian, and I can't have a
driver's license in Canadabecause she took it away from me
because of this and that otherreasons.
So I almost snapped and wentpostal again a while back
because of that, when I firstsplit up with her.
And we know the stories of menespecially that something

(54:26):
snapped after the divorce thelawyers, the child services
orders, the garnishes, thetaking away of passport and
license, and the list goes onthey go postal, they start
killing other humans becausesomething snapped.
And that's what I think a rogueSasquatch is.
A hunter-killer Kills for justthe enjoyment and pleasure of

(54:50):
killing because after he wasdisplaced something snapped in
him.
And I think there's I knowthere's one on Vancouver Island,
because right now, if you lookat facebook, vancouver island,
missing people I looked at itabout three weeks ago because I
seen something come up in mysocial media feed, so I went and
, of course, being fromvancouver island, I went to this
group that I wasn't a member ofand it haunted me how the

(55:14):
pattern is established on threemissing people on the island in
the last four years.
That the pattern is therevehicle found end of the road.
One vehicle backed up pickuptruck.
That was on the mainland, notvancouver island, but the guy
got stuck but all he found washis truck door open and he's

(55:35):
never been seen from since.
You know what scared that guyso much that he jumped out of
his stuck vehicle and left thedoor open.
You know you get out of yourstuck vehicle, you close the
door and hike out.
He didn't do that.
He went MIA.
Vancouver Island.
Right now there's some missingpeople and I highly recommend
the listeners go look at it.
Missing people at VancouverIsland.
It's spooky.

(55:56):
We got a rogue hunter, killerworking on the human population
that is alone out in the extremeisolated areas of vancouver
island.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
So, in other words, way down some logging road by
themselves our guest tonight,tom seawood, from sasquatch
island up in forks, washington Ialmost said kent, but you're
not there right now out in forksyeah out, yeah out in Forks.
For all those who are Twilightfans, please go.
This is a great time to go upthere.
The weather's still decent.
It's not monsoon season.

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This is an opportunity to takea weekend to head up there to
hang out, take an adventure, dosomething outside the city.
Go up and go see Tom $200.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
We'll do a 24-hour.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Sasquatch expedition per person.
Tom, we're getting into thehaunted season for me, so the
whole month of October minusthis show.
Here we're going to just delveinto some of the most haunted
places.
There is some stuff up there inyour area that's pretty haunted
, captivating stuff.
When we talk about rogueSasquatches and I know that you

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having the experience on theisland up there in Vancouver
Island, and I know that you'vedone some stuff in other shows
and things like that Are wethinking that this rogue
Sasquatch, are you going tospend more time, are you going
to be able to do moreinvestigative work trying to
figure out what's going on upthere?
And because I mean, that's kindof your territory, right?
Is that something that you'regoing to spend time on?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Absolutely, and there's a big first shellfish
tide of the season for VancouverIsland.
Northeast is coming upmid-October and Peggy and I are
going north and we have a goodfriend of ours with a wooden
boat, about 42 feet long I guess, ex-commercial fish boat, you
know, got heat, got toilet, gotthree bunks, and we've chartered

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him to take us out into mytraditional territories, both of
the Knights Inlet, theBroughton Archipelago, where I
had numerous encounters withSasquatch, hearing them,
smelling them, hearing them treebreak and seeing them even.
That's where I had my firstreally good up-close encounter
where I saw a big male and a bigfemale in the spotlight on my

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commercial fish boat at anchor.
We'll be going there and I knowthat the pattern's there.
Remember what I said earlier.
I was teaching everyone we'recoming out of summer now, or out
of summer into fall.
The days are getting shorter,the clouds are coming in more,
the clams are whitening up, lessplankton.
The Sasquatches up in mytraditional territories know

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that and they also know thatthis time of the year the plums
that are in the abandoned nativevillage and the crab apples and
the abandoned native villageand the crab apples and the
blackberries and the rose hipsare full on and no humans are
harvesting them and just theblackberries.
And the beach at low tide in themiddle of October is going to
be ooh.
I haven't had a cockle sinceback in April and now we can

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smash two cockles together andeat the meat and the delicacy of
the Sasquatch and humans.
And you know what better thingto look forward to than your
first shellfish dig.
I'm looking forward to it andall excited and Peggy and I are
going to be up there and nohumans are going to be around
hardly, and you know, hopefullyat night we're going to be able
to hear them, smell them andhopefully pick them up on the

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floor and maybe light them up inthe spotlight, like I did
before, and with that P1000Nikon, zoom in and see the chips
on their teeth and the wrinkleson their face.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Do you ever get?
Do you ever, do you ever havefear, tom, that they?
Do you fear them?
I know that that's just a sillyquestion to ask, but for
someone who's done all thisinvestigative work and the
research and I know you respectand have done preservation work
and you know, have workedclosely with laws and lawmakers

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to you know to do differentthings to preserve and to keep
these indigenous bipedalcreatures around.
Obviously, no one's killingthese guys, clearly, because at
least in Washington State, it'sagainst the law.
You can't shoot a Sasquatch orhunt a Sasquatch.
Do you fear that the day willcome where this will be this

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myth?
The way in which people explore,hunt, the word for Sasquatches
is going to change because we'regonna have more evidence, with
someone like yourself being ableto be more elusive, to be able
to garner the skill sets tocatch them, and what I mean by

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on tape or a video, because, asI see it, they are really smart.
They've outsmarted the humanrace for a long time.
I mean, we're talking for solong.
We're talking about a cave days.
For people who don't understandthat, we'll have a link up on

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the podcast, the the pattisonfilm, which you know everyone
talks about.
Is that real, is it not real?
Some of these encounters, thesteps in which people you like
you've done molding of, you knowyou know doing, you know
crafted, molded not that you'relike manufacturing them, but

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you're like finding evidence ofin all these years of searching,
hunting, doing explorations forSasquatch, do you feel like, as
a human society, that we'recloser than we are, or further
from being close, to catchingthese bipedal creatures?

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
in regards to having good footage, One of the things
I study is the urban edgeSasquatch.
The main reason is because Ihave a bad right leg from being
a diabetic, so I can't go fromsea level to punching through
the tree line into alpine in aday like I used to before.

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Old age caught up to me, 59years old.
So what better way to Sasquatchand investigate at night and
daytime than in a vehicle with agas station down the road with
a warm toilet and a hot coffee?
So I've been studying urbanedge for quite some time,
actually since I guess beforeCOVID when I started spending
more and more time with Peggydown in Washington state.

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I've come to realize after I'vehad a few reports come in to me
and saw a video and read a lotof reports on the Internet and
then I thought back to why theGatling gun was invented
Eradicate the Indians so we canput ranches and farms and cities

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there.
Well, right now thosehelicopters got Gat guns, 30 cal
, 50 cal.
They have advanced infrared andforward looking infrared
devices and thermal seekers.
And don't take a rocketscientist to put two and two

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together and go come on, now Ican go to youtube and watch
talibans get pop like zits froma helicopter and gunships and
jets and you can see themrunning for their life.
And the next thing you know,you see the guy's legs blown off
when the big bullets go downand he's crawling there.
He's left his AK-47.
And next thing you know anothercluster of bullets and now he's

(01:03:36):
just a big, huge smear on thedesert floor.
Come on, now they've beenlooking and shooting sasquatches
because the government does notwant another indigenous tribe.
They know that dna is showingthat those sasquatches are just
another indian tribe and northamerican indians, the first
nations we call ourselves in can.

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The Inuit up in Alaska and theArctic Canada are Indigenous in
both countries, as are the Métisin Canada.
So we have three Indigenoustribes.
Down in the US you have two.
The last thing the governmentswant is the third Indigenous
tribe of the United Statescalled Sasquatch, and the fourth
one for Canada, because weIndigenous peoples of Sasquatch

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Island, aka North America, costthose governments billions of
dollars each year.
Here in Washington state thenon-Indian despises the Indian
tangle, gill, netter.
And why do they get the fishand we don't?
I hear that constantly.
Come on now they're calledFirst Nations in Canada and
Indians for a reason.
They were the first ones here,and the Bolt decision gives them

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50% of the resources marineresources.
So just quit your whining.
Get off your high horse, getfriends with an Indian and he'll
give you some free fish throughthe year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
You know, and that's the way I look at it that power
of the Indians in North America?

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
with what we have, we can shut down industry, logging
, fracking pipelines.
We can make governments bow tous now, because that's how
powerful the Indians and theInuit have gotten in Canada, as
have the Métis, which you callCherokee in the US.
So the last thing thegovernments want is another
bloody Indian tribe beingrecognized and having to get

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millions, hundreds of millionsof dollars and it will affect
the whatever gross nationalproduct or whatever you call it
in the world and countries.
Because, mark my words, whenSasquatch is confirmed to exist,
you will see the shutdown oflogging, urban sprawl, fracking
pipelines, ski resorts, hikingtrails.

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You're a rancher that's gotthousands of acres in Colorado
and you want to go cut down acouple of hectares of your
timber so that you can growalfalfa to sell to the Arabians
for their Arabian horses forhundreds of dollars of bail.
Well, you're going to have todo an environmental assessment
how the removal of those treeson your ranch property may
affect negatively theSasquatches in that area.

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Well, that'll be decades ofpaperwork and red tape and
probably get a stamp of noapproval.
So, trust me, they do not wantSasquatches identified.
It's bad enough.
We Indians, inuit Métis inCanada are shutting down
government and industry.
Can you imagine what Sasquatchis going to do throughout North
America and the Yahwehs inAustralia?

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
It would change things dramatically, that is for
sure.
Tom, always fun to hang outwith you Before we wrap things
up.
For those who we would like toput a little bow on everything
here, what we've talked aboutthis evening, if you're just
tuning in, tom Seawood, ourguest from Sasquatch Island, he

(01:06:43):
is out of Forks Washington thesedays hanging out at Sasquatch
Legends and you can go up toForks Washington and hang out in
the brick and mortar store.
They have their website.
You can go toSasquatchIslandcom for Tom's
merchandise.
Tom, your stuff is always great.

(01:07:03):
Thanks.
Tonight.
What we've learned about isrogue Sasquatches how to I would
say how to be aware of yoursurroundings, how to hear what
to look for in a Sasquatch area,if there may be one.
And I think a lot of people maynot know, tom, as we talked

(01:07:24):
about tonight, how to evenidentify an area that may have
Sasquatch in that area.
And thanks to you, tom, yourexpertise, your knowledge is
vital for people who are goingto be out here, because hey look
, I don't want to find someoneon a missing 411, you know uh,

(01:07:45):
report, uh, because by at theend of the day, man, we can all
coexist together.
It uh clearly, as you are justtalking about here as we wrap
things up.
Um, you know they areindigenous to the planet and and
and when that these times getcloser, maybe someone might be
have more encounters.
But, tom, your expeditions,your stories, people coming to

(01:08:10):
you is huge.
Your knowledge to what is avast, interesting topic to many
who have had tons of sightingsgo to tom's website.
If you've had an encounter andmost people and tom, you know
this we've had, we've done ashow together where we did a

(01:08:32):
round table mini conference withpeople showing up to a brewery,
and when we did this it was notintent to do like a Sasquatch,
like conference, like everyoneelse does.
It was more of a roundtable tolet people come to share their
stories.
Tom, I think you're one of thebest out here who is able to

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take the knowledge that has beengiven to you from your
experiences.
But people who share this canfeel safe with you.
I mean we.
You spend hours there hangingout having a beer with people,
but just because you, it felt solike you were someone's best
friend.
You know that's the best way Icould describe it.

(01:09:18):
You were just there hanging outwith everyone having a
conversation, but people wereopen and I remember them saying
this very much like thank you somuch for having a, you know,
being able to have an opendiscussion, because people are
still afraid to talk about theirencounters of seeing a
Sasquatch Bigfoot because theydon't want to be called crazy.

(01:09:40):
If you have an encounter,please, if you feel like you're
inquisitive, to tell us775-990-5151.
Go to Tom's website.
It's on our website.
It'll be on our podcast as well, at SasquatchIslandcom.
Tom, where else can they findyou?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Go to SasquatchL dot com, tom.
Where else can they find you?
Go to Sasquatch Legend dot com.
You know they have all my shirtdesigns like whoop whoop here.
That's the sound that they make, whoop whoop and things.
I manage the store.
So when you email throughSasquatch Legend dot com, after
looking at the different thingsin that that we have on there,
it'll get right to my attention.
I work five days a week, mondaythrough Friday.

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And you know, go to YouTubeSasquatch Island, tiktok.
I'm doing TikToks now withBiggie, the big Sasquatch
mannequin we have in the store.
But, like I say, if you want aclose encounter of the hairy
kind or you want to better yourgame to get a close encounter of
the hairy kind, come and takean expedition with me here in

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Forks or Canadians, or if youAmericans that want to go to
Vancouver Island, we can do itup there to your Sasquatch
enthusiast buddies, male andfemale, and get me a plane
ticket return and I'll go fromSeaTac to wherever you are and

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I'll come in your backyard andteach you how to better your
game so you can have that closeencounter of the hairy kind with
your local Sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Tom, are you doing any conferences this fall?
Are there any big shows comingup for you?

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Not nothing on the calendar yet, other than
probably because of being amanager for sasquatch legendcom.
I was telling peggy today Ithink I'll go to ocean shores
it's only two hours 15 minutesfrom forks and have a vendor
table there this year.
But I'll reach out to thequinault tribe and say, hey, I'm
gonna come down there, get avendor table.

(01:11:38):
Why don't you guys get me onyour stage, since I'm going to
be there anyway, and I'll go outand talk about what I've been
experiencing and hearing abouthere on the Olympic Peninsula.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Oh, the old Quinault Casino show.
I know that that's run by adifferent.
There's another radio show outthere that handles most of the
stuff down in that southwestWashington, although we do have
a radio station right down thestreet at KOSW.
That's one of our other radiostations down there right by the

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casino.
It's right there in OceanShores.
So you know, we haven't beenblessed or been asked to come
and hang out, and you know how Ifeel about those types of
things.
I tend to not go unless we'redoing the whole entire thing,
and maybe one day we'll getcloser to that.
But, tom, it's always fun tohave you on the show.

(01:12:32):
Give your expertise again.
Tom Seawood, you can go to hiswebsite, uh, which I recommend.
He's got tons of great stuffthere.
Um, if you want to go onexpedition, uh, if you want to
go to Sasquatch, uh, toSasquatch legends, and hang out
with him up at the brick andmortar store, I'm telling you

(01:12:53):
this is the time to get out.
This is the perfect time.
It's not raining just yet, butthis is the time where a lot of
transition is going on and Iknow Tom's talking talk to us
about this in previous shows,but this would be.
This would be key man go outthere and hang out with Tom uh
on all his adventures.
And if you're so inclined to go, do the uh Sasquatch uh
conference down there inSouthwest Washington uh, be sure

(01:13:16):
to do so.
We always like to promote localbusinesses and things of that
nature, so we're not hating onthem, we just don't go.
So hats off to those guys downthere.
They do a great job and that'salways something that people
enjoy doing is going to thosetypes of conferences.
So if you're a Bigfootenthusiast, definitely go.
Check out that.

(01:13:37):
I believe it's coming up.
Go to the Cornell Casino'swebsite website.
I'm sure they'll have moreinformation up there on their
website.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
So again, tom, any last words before we head out
here just come to ForksWashington, sasquatchlegendcom
got a picnic table in there, hotcoffee on every day and other
hot beverages and hot chocolatetea.
And come sit down with me andwe'll chatter, chatter about
sasquatch like a couple ofsasquatches from the pacific

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northwest.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
I'd like to thank our guest, tom seawood this evening
for coming to hang out with us.
It's always a pleasure and anhonor to have tom come to hang
out with us from uh,sasquatchislandcom.
He's hanging out in forks,washington.
Go to sasquatch Island dot comHanging out in Forks, washington
.
Go to Sasquatch Legends, thebrick and mortar store.
For my entire team, markChristopher, jeff, jen and
Sophia Magana and myself, marioMagana, be sure to look up at

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the sky, because you never knowwhat you might see.
Good night, good night.