Exploring the Enigmatic World of Sasquatch: Adventures and Insights with Tom Sewid

Exploring the world of Sasquatch research, Tom Sewid shares crucial insights on survival and respect for nature's mysteries. From gear essentials to encounters in urban areas, he provides listeners with knowledge to navigate the wilderness safely. 

• Discussion on the tragic story of the missing hikers
• Importance of outdoor preparation and survival gear 
• Insights from Indigenous tribes about Sasquatch
• Urban Sasquatch encounters becoming more frequent 
• Emphasis on respect for Sasquatch and nature 
• Introduction of technology aiding Sasquatch research 
• Announcement of upcoming expeditions for interested adventurers

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to US Phenomenon, where possibilities
are endless.
Put down those same oldheadlines.
It's time to expand your mindand question what if?
From paranormal activity toUFOs, bigfoot sightings and
unsolved mysteries, this is USPhenomenon?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the
1962 World's Fair, the SpaceNeedle.
Good evening, good morning,good afternoon.
Wherever you are on God's greenearth, this is US Phenomenon
and I'm your host, mario Magana,tonight.
If you're a Sasquatchenthusiast, if you are a Bigfoot

(00:43):
enthusiast, if you have spenttime like being intrigued by
this mysterious cryptic bipedalanimal, tonight we go to our
favorite researcher and explorer, tom seawood, who's going to

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give us all the information,plus he's in a new tv series.
Let's talk to tom and ask himhey, tom, welcome back to us.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Phenomenon thanks for having me on again, mario you
know.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, so we know that you are Mr Everything Bigfoot,
you know you got Sasquatch, yougot it all dialed in right.
So my question to you is sothere was these hikers that went
missing during the Christmasholiday.
Have you heard anything, I mean, other than we know, that they

(01:43):
died of exposure?
Have you heard anything I mean,other than we know that they
died of?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
exposure.
Have you heard anything elsefrom that?
Just pretty much just what wasshared with Facebook on a few
occasions and pretty much it wasjust a shared media release on
that.
You know it's tragic number one.
You know I feel for theirfamilies, especially during the
time of year that they passed.
But you know it's one of thosethings that you know I feel for
their families, especiallyduring the time of year that
they passed.
But you know it's one of thosethings that you know it's just

(02:10):
got to really make sure thatyou're prepared for it when you
get out into the bush especially, you know, whenever you go to
bush, especially in thewintertime, it's always be
prepared for what happens.
If something happens where thesun goes down and you're stuck
out there at night, temperaturesdrop, wind can come up, wind
chill, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So it's tragic what happened, but I imagine you know
, with the shorter days,daylight during the days I
imagine they probably lostdaylight and got turned around
and exposure got them it'sunfortunate because I think a
lot of people who, um, don'ttake guides or maybe they're, uh
, self-proclaimed, you knowexplorers, things of that nature

(02:51):
, tom, you've been doing thisfor such a long time what, what?
What really is sad about thisis that these things could be
prevented with, you know, havingthe right guide, the right team
.
Uh, the right team, uh, theright, you know the being
prepared.
I don't know, I don't know thesituation, I don't know if they
were not fully prepared, butwhen, when, when you hear they

(03:13):
die of exposure, uh, out therelooking for, you know, in in
research for Sasquatch, to methat would be indications of
signs of not being fullyprepared.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And, and, and I mean mean for for all we know, from
what the information has beentold to us, yeah, like the
decades I was in bush, you knowone of the things we used to
wear was those, uh, commercialcalled a mustang floater vest
and they're just filled withpockets and of course they have
a pull cord for a co2 cylinderto blow up.

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So we wore those because theywere green, they were light, you
know, until we loaded thepockets and they were about 20
pounds depending on what you putin there.
But the back of it there was abig zipper like a backpack kind
of thing.
But we always had a six by sixor an eight by eight tarp in

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each of our vests and that's oneof the best things to defeat
exposure in the pacificnorthwest anyway is having that
tarp.
It breaks the wind, it repelsthe water and the snow, it
retains the body heat and I was,you know, there's.
I can't count in my two handshow many times those tarps and
those vests or backpacks, youknow, probably saved us when

(04:30):
they're out there, because youknow we're young and dumb back
in when I was in my teens and20s and but we always prepared
like that and you know we alwayshad extra lighters and, uh,
some punk to get a fire goingand the tarp and you know no
blanket.
You know, and you know there'stimes we got turned around.

(04:51):
You know we never used to bringcompasses when I was young.
Yeah and uh, you know you getturned around and darkness was
coming.
So the first thing you did wasfind a place where there's some
dry wood, hopefully get out ofthe wind and rain.
And you know, use your.
One of the tarps is a littlestring and like a tent.
Above you put a bunch of fernsand hemlock boughs down and you

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know you're elevated so thewater ain't gonna get into your.
You know, backside when you'resitting down and laying down,
and then that other tarp overtop of us and then tucking it,
you know a six by six or aneight by eight.
You know we woke up in themorning freezing cold but we're
warm inside that tarp and youknow, with the clothes that we
had on and sometimes our clotheswere wet.

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So you always got to beprepared and it's.
You know, don't take it forgranted just because it's a
trail system.
You know, don't take much to be, especially if you're Sasquatch
investigating and you hearsomething, smell something, you
go to investigate off a maintrail.
Well then, sasquatches arenotorious to be in the thickest

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of thick.
So if you hear something orsmell something and you're
Sasquatch investigating, youknow they're going to draw you
into some pretty thick bush andbefore you know it you're all
twisted and turned around.
The sun's gone down, you don'tknow which directions, what, and
you're spending the night outthere, and maybe a couple, and I
think that's what happened tothese guys.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Our guest tonight, tom Seawood from Sasquatch
Island.
Thank you for for hanging outwith us.
I know you're working on somenew adventures For those who are
out there.
As we were talking about theunfortunate passing of these
explorers that were out thereresearching or looking for,
trying to investigate forSasquatch near Mount St Helens,

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mount Rainier and Mount Adams onthat backside there on the
south side, what would you tellsomeone who is out there doing
research or maybe they're anovice, they're, you know, an
amateur that wants to go outthere and spend some more time
in the bush, as you would saywell, number one stay out of the

(07:00):
yarn basket.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
What the heck do you want to go in the bush for deep
bush?
You know, the only one who cameup spades going into deep bush
was roger patterson and bobgimlin filming a sasquatch right
.
Paul freeman was on a gravelroad some 35 minutes from the
highway.
I know I went up there lastsummer where the freeman footage
was taken and he was at a waterreservoir up very high ground.

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So during the late fall, winter, early spring, when we have
nasty weather, there's no needfor you to be going way out into
the thick timber.
You know it just increases thechances something might go wrong
and you're going to end up likethese two gentlemen that you
know.
Unfortunately it was a tragedy.
Whereas you know, followSasquatch Island on Facebook,

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youtube, tiktok website,sasquatch Island on Facebook,
youtube, tiktok website,sasquatchislandcom, and learn
that the there's been aconsiderable increase of
Sasquatch encounters in oururban edge.
So, going to an area and youknow, getting the um x app or X
hunting app, it shows you theproperties and who owns it.

(08:08):
So you know that you can go toan urban edge like Enumclaw
Buckley, up by Pyramid Mountain,I think it's called, where we
did a lot of investigating.
Well, now that we have this app, peggy and I, I'm going to be
able to go up there.
We know there's Sasquatchactivity up there.
When the televisions go off andthe lights go off downstairs

(08:28):
and the bedroom lights go off,we're out there, parked on the
side of the road, and we'veheard a few years back, the
chattering, the tree knocks, thewhooping noises.
So we know the Sasquatches arecoming in for the livestock feed
in the barns and outbuildings,the fruit and vegetable in the
backyards, the compost, thegreenhouses.

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And you know, using that X app,you're able to see where the
private property is and seewhere the state or you know
conservancy lands are whereyou're allowed to go in there at
nighttime and daytime andinvestigate.
And that way, you know, you'reincreasing your chances number
one of finding a Sasquatch.
You're decreasing your chancesof ending up like these two men

(09:14):
who were in deep bush lookingfor Sasquatch in the wintertime
and exposure got them in theelements.
So you know, that's one of thethings I could train people, and
the other one is taking anexpedition with me.
You know, come here to theOlympic Peninsula or, if you're
Canadian or you want to go toCanada.
We can put an expedition onVancouver Island and come out

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there and learn Indianuity whatI've learned in a lifetime of
being a busher commercialfisherman waterman hunting guide
and let me teach you thosetricks there's so many tricks
out there in the bush tostarting a fire, keeping the
fire going and how to survive ifthings go sideways on you.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Tom, where's this app ?
Is it available now, this appthat you guys have going on, or
is it still in demo mode?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Just a sec.
What's it called that app?
Property app?
Maggie's behind me on herstudio there, but she's going to
get the right name for it.
She has it in her phone.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Awesome On X Hunt.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
O-N-X Hunt, so you Hunt.
Oh, okay, o-n-x Hunt, so youpay a few bucks for it.
But I was with the producerfrom Expedition Bigfoot back in
the summer and he was the one.
It was funny because we were upin southwest of Fox and we were

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driving way back in the forest.
I was going to show him anancient red cedar grove, that
giant red cedars, and it's noton the map or anything, and no
tourists go up there, just thelocal hunters and mushroom
pickers.
But we got up there and becausethey were going to film
possibly in this area, he neededto know if it was private land,
what forest company hold thelease, if it was a conservancy.

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And we got up to the yellowgate and all of a sudden he
pulls out his cell phone and hestarts looking at it.
And we had bars.
And all of a sudden he goes oh,that is a logging company
behind us and on this side ofthe fence is a conservancy.
And I look over at this app andI'm like holy smokes, that's
white man's magic.
You know, no offense to thenon-Indians, but to me it was

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amazing.
You know now I know who ownsthis timber and you know.
So on X app or on X hunt.
That app is amazing For thedollars you're going to pay for
it.
You can drive down the roadhere in Forks heading towards
the whole rainforest to pay forit.
You can drive down the roadhere in forks heading towards
the whole rainforest and you cansee that there's the peterson

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ranch, there's the sullivan'sproperty and so forth, and then
small town like forks.
You go back and look and searchthe person's name for the
property and, lo and behold,there's their phone number and
even or ask someone in thegrocery store and they go oh
yeah, the Sullivans, yeah, theyown this business.
Look on the website, find theiremail, communicate with them,

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get permission to go onto theirprivate property and things like
that.
So it's really amazing.
And then also it's going tohelp you so you don't get lost.
You know it's amazing that appfor being out in the bush.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I wish I had that 40 years ago it's so amazing, tom,
um, how there are the.
The technology has advanced somuch and I know that you you do
expeditions and, um, and inprevious shows that we've done
with you, uh, how much gear youtake with you now, but how much
this now enhances the, thoseexperiences.

(12:47):
So if you haven't had a chanceto go and hang out with tom and
and do one of his expeditions,or if you want to go explore and
you're like I need tom's, yourtom's, your guy, I I will tell
you tom has spent so much timeon this on this show, podcast
and radio broadcast, sharingknowledge with you guys across

(13:08):
the, you know, across allplatforms.
But what's so cool about tomand how he shares these legacies
, these stories, how much time,how much blood, sweat and energy
tom has taken to go out hereand and share his story, uh,
with everybody and hisexperiences in regards to what

(13:30):
is out there, what's going on,and the one thing that most
people may have not known aboutTom is that he continues to be a
forward thinker.
How we continue to evolve and tochange.
How we continue to evolve andto change, to work with
legislation to make sure thatthese areas are protected for

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indigenous Sasquatches, andthat's something that we've
talked about before on this showand to me, tom, the fascination
for so many people that are outthere that want to find the
tangible, to find Sasquatch, um,to be, you know, to maybe snap

(14:13):
that picture with them.
I want to say, you know,jokingly, like, take a selfie,
cause that's what all the kidsdo nowadays, right, everyone's
taking a selfie.
And um, other than going to amuseum or going to downtown
Seattle where there are these,you know, erected Sasquatches.
I know that there's one by themarket, one that is carved

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that's inside the Pike Placemarket.
That has been there for whoknows how long for forever that
I can remember growing up.
It's still there, it's.
It's on the lower level onfirst Avenue.
If you're looking to have a, a,a selfie with a Sasquatch, you
can go there and be safe.

(14:57):
You won't, you won't, you won'tbecome a.
I think, as Tom said, a, a, aturd, a leftover from a hot turd
or something like that I thinkyou've said in the past.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
A steaming turd in the forest.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, tom, you know when we go over everything and
how, just in the past, thistragic accident with these young
.
You know these explorers, theseexpedition people that have
gone out there, look, make sureyou take your stuff with you,
make sure you have a guide.
If you're, if you are not,you're not fully prepared to be

(15:31):
out in the bush, in the woods,especially the deep woods, and
and this time of year, rememberoctober you know if you're going
to explore and you know that'sthe same thing I tell I, I, you
know I've, you're going toexplore.
You know this is the same thingI tell I.
You know I've talked about manyshows before.
Hikers seem to love to push thelimit and by all means do your
thing, but remember you may notcome out alive.

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So when you're out by MountRainier, in your national forest
, in the Mount Rainier NationalForest, the Olympic Peninsula,
or you're in the OlympicNational Parks, you need to be
prepared and have the tools andonset to move forward so that if
something happens to you, youhave the proper tools to get out
.
Or you're going to be anothercase on the missing 411.
Okay, that's what's just goingto happen.

(16:14):
Uh, tom, uh, you know thanksfor hanging out with us tonight.
So let's talk about some newthings that you've been working
on.
Let's I?
I know that you've been pushingsome new stuff and I was like I
gotta have tom on.
He's pushing something new andevery time you're doing
something new, you're alwaysmoving.
You got a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
So let's talk about some of your new stuff well, we
really kicked it up,investigating where you know.
I remember hearing peoplesaying if you have sasquatches
banging on your house anddisrupting things and scaring
you, just put trail cameras out.
They'll disappear.
You know, I chuckled because Iactually captured a Sasquatch a

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blurry one, mind you on a trailcamera.
But I never use the straps.
If I can help it, I try to findan old, big, rotten stump or a
log and dig a hole in it and putthe trail camera in there and
camouflage it with some moss.
Yeah, and that's how I bingoedthat sasquatch.
It actually walked up to thestump, knocked the camera off, I

(17:13):
guess.
And when I walked up to it itwasn't in the stump and I looked
.
I'm like what the heck?
Someone steal my camera right.
And it was on van Island, youknow, probably about maybe 500
yards up from a camping area, upa bluff, on forest, and I
thought maybe a human got it.
And then all of a sudden, as Iwalked towards the stump,

(17:35):
there's my trail camera facingup on its back.
Look, with the lens pointing up.
And all of a sudden I'm likethe person that was with me.
I'm like stop, don't you seethe tracks?
Look at those tracks.
You know you can see big like15, 16 inch impressions in the
moss by the camera.
So I grabbed the camera and ofcourse check the data thing and

(17:56):
uh, you know, we got thoselittle viewers.
You plug into your cell phoneand everything.
Sometimes we even bring ourlaptops with us so we can view
them right in the field.
But we anyway reviewed the datacard and you can see where the
camera got hit.
You can see the spinning of thetimber as we're going.
Click, click, click.
You can see the timber spinningtrees and the last picture was

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a right arm Sasquatch lookinglike a chimpanzee leaning into
the camera on the ground.
So trail cameras do work, justdon't use the straps, if you can
help it.
But then again, we've gotapproached by someone almost two
months ago and me and buddywent down and did an interview
with him and he has uh propertyon the peninsula here and uh

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young, two young daughters, onenine, one about a year and a
half, two years old and a wifeand a lot of activity Knocking
on the house.
He's been gifting them, they'vebeen taking food, he's left out
, took pictures of the tracksand the frost and on the wet
grass in the morning, goes towork at 3.30 in the morning to

(19:02):
start his truck up and somethingsmells bad, hears something,
something jumps and explodesthrough the bush.
His cat's hiding under thehouse yowling away or under his
truck, and his cat lives outside.
So all of a sudden he startedputting motion detector lights
out.
They'd go on, he'd check, seenothing.

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And then lo and behold, afterputting a ring video camera out
there, putting motion detectorlights out, they'd go on, he'd
check, see nothing.
And then, lo and behold, afterputting a ring video camera out
there, he captured.
Looked like he was over eightfoot tall, peeked out from
behind his house and then turnedand disappeared again.
And that's on the back of hishouse where the two-bedroom
windows are for his daughtersand him and his wife.
So we went down, did theinterview, realized he wasn't a

(19:47):
whack job or a woo-woo, and sowe decided to put some chips on
his square.
So we brought some trailcameras down.
Peggy got involved.
She's behind me there atOperation Sasquatch, her studio,
where she'll cell phone a pingand then she's got a live feed
watching the cameras as he goesout to replace bait or clean the

(20:12):
lenses, because it's foggy.
Tonight I imagine he'll becleaning lenses on the cameras.
So we're dialed in and we've gotaudio recorders and trail
cameras in the bush, but we'renot getting anything and they've
actually quit coming to thebait station now that we've put
trail cameras out.
But you know, I'm telling Peggy, tell him, pull all the cameras
in, we'll just go with theaudio equipment and him as our

(20:34):
bait, with the cell phone, withthe FLIR and the FLIR monoscope
that we've lent him and GoPro onhis hat yeah.
And let him go out.
Well, he's been doing that andhe's GoPro'd, videoed two big
eyes, not 60 feet from him,inside the bush.
And he went in and, you know,of course, did the follow-up

(20:56):
measurements and he estimated itand he got some other people to
analyze the film as well andgive him the distances,
distances, and they werethinking that that thing was
over seven and a half feet tall,and you know, and then he's,
you know, busting his butttrying to capture it.
And that's what you got to dowith.
Sasquatch is.
You know, it's not one of thosethings.

(21:18):
You go out once, put a fewcameras out and, bingo, you get
a Sasquatch.
You just got to keep pounding,you know, as they try to catch
the big old king salmon, youalways see the advertising and
the ego videos of these massive60 plus pound king salmon
chinooks, whether it be inalaska, patagonia, chile or

(21:41):
northwest canada, us.
You see these pictures right.
But how many times do youactually go fishing for Chinook
king salmon and actually get thebig 64-pound-plus monster?
Not me.
Well, the biggest one I caughtwas 48 pounds.
I haven't cracked the 50-poundmark yet but I've seen some over
90 pounds commercial fishing ona seine boat that we've caught.

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I know they're out there butyou know that's like a Sasquatch
, it's like a king salmon.
You might catch 150 king salmonunder 35 pounds and die never
catching that 40-pound plus or60-pound plus.
But we know people catch themand that's how you got to look
at Sasquatch Pitter-patter.

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Get at her and don't give up.
Be tenacious.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
When you guys are out here doing this research.
Now are you guys obviouslyyou're tracking where you're
having these like, you'respotting or having these
encounters with Sasquatch.
So are you basically havingdoing a map I guess it would be
a map with hotspots and whereyou guys are estimating the
these sasquatches to be.

(22:47):
So, like, when you go back out,do you go back to the same
places?
Or do you kind of, with yourexperience, tom, do you say, hey
look, we've been here, this iswhat the pattern looks like from
the last, for example, the lastthree sessions we've gone out,
we've had two hits from thislocation.
But the further we go in withyour experience, are you kind of

(23:09):
like almost like forecastingwhere you guys are going to move
next when you guys are out herelooking for a Sasquatch?

Speaker 3 (23:17):
After living in a bush for decades and hating
humans so much in the early 90s,and another time where I
disappeared and went in the bushfor weeks, months on end.
At one time I lived like aSasquatch.
I even went feral because Ihadn't spoken into any humans
for over 200 days and I ran outof cigarettes and coffee.
That really makes you go feral,sure, but anyway I was a

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Sasquatch, living like aSasquatch, walking and grabbing,
bending down and rolling overrocks on the beach and eating,
digging in the muds of ariverbank to find shellfish, or
on the saltwater beach, diggingin the sediment to find
shellfish and plucking barnaclesoff rocks and cooking them and
sucking barnacle meat out.
So I always put myself in theirvery feet.

(24:03):
So I look at an area like herein Forks on the peninsula.
Me and Peggy have a rule we tryto keep within a half-hour
driving radius of the house.
Why go further?
Number one stay and I'm goingto say it, it's going to be
blunt.
Stay out of the pubic hair ofNorth America, the yarn basket.

(24:25):
Stay out of the pubic hair ofNorth America, the yarn basket.
Stay out of the forest.
If you can't see 60 yards, thenyou are never going to find a
Sasquatch.
Just the lucky Albertan elkhunters, bow hunting, with video
camera going buddy grabs thecamera, give me that he films a
Sasquatch got surprised becausehe was walking and saw them.

(24:47):
Roger Patterson and Bob GimlinPatty was in the creek, yeah,
getting a drink of water, maybelooking for her food, but she
couldn't hear the horses orsmell the humans on them coming.
And all of a sudden she stoodup and we know what Patty did
walked in frame 352 looking atthe humans and horses in the

(25:07):
bush and gone.
And paul freeman, you know, oh,there's one and it disappears.
They just analyzed it now andfound that a sasquatch actually
bends down and picks up a infantthat was in the ferns and the
bushes up there and independenceday sasquatch and a couple
other really blurry ones thatare out there, that those are

(25:30):
the only ones that we see a fewseconds of a sasquatch.
So if you're going to bingo asasquatch, so the keyboard
warriors and the governmentappointed trolls and social
media don't negatively commentabout what you produce, then
you're going to have to be outin the open.
So go to a shellfish beach on abig low tide, use your flers at

(25:51):
night, because that's whenthey're more than likely going
to be out there, as we bingoedone for 16 minutes 40 seconds
with a fler, with Stephen Majorand Adam Davies, on a yacht up
on east of Vancouver Island somefour years ago in February.
And look at the transition zones.
They sleep on top of a mountainknoll.

(26:13):
I got that looks like a breast.
So when you're in an area thatyou have Sasquatch activity,
look around.
When you see that knoll, thatlittle mount that looks like a
female breast, the females young, sick and elderly will be at
the nipple, sleeping during thedaytime, beneath and around,

(26:34):
taking advantage of the smell,the hearing, the sound, the
sight are the scouts, harvestersand hunters, and if one of them
sees or comes across a threatlike a human, and if one of them
sees or comes across a threatlike a human, morse code all the
way up to the nipple.
And the clan is ready to movewhen they're given another order
to evacuate on this directionand windage and so forth and go

(26:57):
to rally point one and we'llmeet you after we steer the
threat away from right.
So, looking like that and now'vegot to look at the transition
zone, how are they going fromthat mount down below?
Well, look at that mount.
It comes down to hydroline andit's all clear of brush.
There's a major transition zone.

(27:17):
The mount comes down andthere's a stream that leads down
to the farm fields or to theorchards.
That leads down to the farmfields or to the orchards,
wineries or the saltwater areawhere the shellfish are.
So you're looking at where theysleep, on the nipple of the
mount, the transition zone.
That might take us three hoursto walk.
It takes a Sasquatch probablyunder an hour and 20 minutes and

(27:40):
then they're going to go feed,fill their belly as fast as they
can with a high-abundanceseasonal protein or the Urban
Edge human produced 12 months ofthe year protein.
And we're seeing so manyencounters now where we
interview people in aneighborhood and you find out
that pretty much everyone hasstories about Sasquatch in their

(28:02):
backyards.
Pretty much everyone hasstories about Sasquatch in their
backyards, something going intotheir greenhouse, something
keeps cleaning out the compost,the potato peels and other foods
, so they know that the humansare producing.
And where we are right nowthere's a restaurant close by
some 350 to 400 yards away fromthe house, through the timber,

(28:22):
and the back of the restaurantthere's just a small garbage can
, but apparently the dumpsterhad been pushed away from the
back of the restaurant anddumped on its side.
Black bear wouldn't do that andthere's no grizzly bears on the
olympic peninsula and you know.
So, looking at all of thatabundant protein on that place

(28:43):
we're investigating by buddy'shouse, there's a home, that a
lot of homes, you know, justabout 20 of them down there in
that urban edge area, but one ofthem's got a greenhouse in two
months ago that you can see thegrapevine leaves all over the
what do you call it?
Trellis or whatever.
Off the greenhouse, yeah,there's fruit trees, there's a
salmon river, there's the edgeof a lake where I went down and

(29:06):
confirmed there's freshwatershellfish.
So this place we'reinvestigating the chance of
putting your chips on the squareand coming up win on a roulette
table.
This is a good one.
It's got everything Timbermount, lake, salmon river,
human-produced proteins, mountlake, salmon River,
human-produced proteins.

(29:27):
And of course you've got tofactor in Sasquatch.
Especially the younger malesare very curious about children.
So when he was out there in thesummer the last couple of years
and the daughter's playing andtwittering and chirping and
laughing and falling down andcrying because she skinned her
knee, there's a Sasquatchwatching and all of a sudden

(29:48):
they start smelling things,having activity.
It even went so far as a monthago.
Him and his wife were in bed,heard something and he thought
something was thrown on the roof.
The next morning he goes outand investigates and his eaves
trough is dented.
So something at anine-and-a-half-foot level hit

(30:10):
that eaves trough and dented itand it was probably just sending
a message.
What the hell are you doing?
Letting these strangers come onyour property and put all these
trail cameras all around?
And traipsing around Becausethat Indian you brought down
here, he smells, watched him, heknows what he's doing in the
bush.
And traipsing around becausethat indian you brought down
here, he smells, watched him, heknows what he's doing in the
bush.
He was pointing at our tracksand where we're standing,
watching your bedroom windows,right.

(30:31):
So you know scouts are alwaysout there.
So you got to be very aware ofthat and you know, coming out
with me on an expedition, notonly do I, we have thousands of
dollars of equipment, flares andparabolic listening devices,
audio, high-end audio recorders,p1000, nikon trail cameras,

(30:52):
binoculars, range finders, butmost of all, we got what's up in
the baldest head the knowledgeand experience of decades in the
bush and many years living likea sasquatch, so I can bring you
out and teach you, so that I'mgoing to help you get a increase
your chances of getting a closeencounter of the hairy kind
when you go investigating ourguest tonight, uh tom seawood

(31:15):
from sasquatch island.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
You can go to his website, um tom.
What's interesting to me andwe've had these conversations
multiple times, I've hadmultiple people I will say I was
listening to a show last nightthat is very old and has been
around for a long time Now.
It is not my radio show, but Iwas listening to the legendary

(31:40):
Art Bell last night and in in my, um, in my, in in my, in this
youtube vid, uh, stream of artbell.
he had a lady who lived in texaswho said that she had an
encounter with a sasquatch, butthe sasquatch I should not be

(32:01):
laughing took her clothes thatwere being hung in on.
You know, for most people whodon't do this, you know, in
Texas, maybe some people, maybesome people here across the
United States still do thiswhere they hang their clothes to
dry that she lost a flannel andthat the Sasquatch was wearing

(32:29):
the flannel.
I'm trying not to laugh becauseI was like half asleep and half
awake and I had to go back thismorning and re-listen.
Sure enough, with a straightface, this lady shared that the
sasquatch had taken some of herclothes and was trying to wear

(32:51):
the clothes.
I guess and I guess that wouldbe the urban piece that you were
talking about how they're?
You know they're curious.
Maybe you know the younger uh,playing around and and looking
for food or gathering things.
What makes me think about thispiece?
I mean they resemble an ape, ahuman, and I mean they got to be

(33:19):
smart as hell, right, tom?
I mean I can't imagine thatwe've gone this long in
existence, and it's like cat andmouse, I mean, they definitely
know what the hell they're doing.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
It's because humans, the hairless bipedal, think
exactly the way you just didright there.
They must be smart.
They're the perfect human.
They have forgotten more aboutbush, windage and stealth and
breaking silhouette and usingyour ears and your nose than
most humans will ever know.

(33:57):
And I went feral and I was inthe bush for months when I saw
that helicopter land and I camedown the mountain to the timber
and all I kept thinking aboutwas oh, I hope one of them is a
smoker.
And I could hear them talking.
And as I come through the bushand pulled the branch down, they

(34:21):
were taking their lunch break.
The helicopter had taken offafter dumping them, but they
were doing their forest surveywork.
And I could see the girlpouring a thermos of coffee and
I could smell the coffee thathad sugar and milk in it.
And I could see the guy eatingthe sandwich, but I could smell
the peanut butter and jam andthe yeast.
And the guy smoking a cigarette, even though he was sidewind on

(34:43):
me.
I could smell and smoke,because that's how in tune my
nose was, being in the bush forso long, using all your senses.
It's like when people say youknow, geez, how did your
ancestors you see the black andwhite photos of them and you
know they might have a cedarbark with a little bit of fur
cape on.
They might have a cedar barkwith a little bit of fur or cape
on and bare legs and no shoes,no sandals.

(35:04):
How did they do that?
It's so cold out there and wet.
They become acclimatized, theybecome used to it and so we're
so pampered me right now I gotto have the heat at 73 degrees
when I come home from work.
Back in the day, when I was outin the bush, I never had a
thermostat yet.
I was never cold.
You know, I just layered up andtook layers off and added more.

(35:28):
So the sasquatches.
They're so in tune witheverything and that's why when
we do spook them, all we see isthat look and then that
shoulders turn and that back andthe feet coming up and they
disappear in the bush.
They don't want anything to dowith this, but the most reason
why we don't see them is becausethey see us, hear us, smell us,

(35:52):
notice us, observe us, waybefore we even know they're in
the area.
So you've got to.
Really, you know you can't justgo out there and traipse around
like you're hiking down a trailin a park or hunting with your
gun over your shoulder or yourpistol on your side, they smell
that gunpowder and gun oil andsee it.

(36:17):
They're never going to showthemselves.
And you know they're so superiorin how they and where they live
in the forest and that's whyyou know, coming with me and
getting trained on bush tacticsand stealth and breaking
silhouette, how to use your earsproperly, how to train your
nose, you know, back when Ilived in the bush, you know I

(36:38):
could go to Telegraph Cove onEastern Vancouver Island or
Alert Bay and close the bar downand it's misty, fog and pitch
black.
With my compass, with a redlight on it, my
18-and-a-half-foot speedy boatwith a 60-horse Mercury on the
back, I could take off and makeit back to my float house or my

(37:00):
cabin whatever one I was in atthat time, or my boat anchored
out, when I had one I was using.
How did I do that?
With all the fancy electronics,indinuity?
You know I'd follow the shore,hit it with a flashlight.
Every now and then I could seethe phosphorescence splashing
against the rocks and the graveland all of a sudden there's the

(37:21):
green flashing light coming outof the fog, there's the light,
navigation aid.
So I get there, I light acigarette, I turn on my compass
course, I know, to get me acrossthe channel.
But before I take off from theseeing the green light and light
my cigarette, I slow myspeedboat down, put it in
neutral and turn off theignition.
And I listen no big cruiseships, no freight, no tugboats,

(37:45):
no other boats.
I could hear them further away,but they're not going to come
near me.
And then I started up and I zipoff on my compass course
smoking my cigarette.
And I just lit up.
And I know that when I get tothe point where I flick my
cigarette I better get ready toput my hand on the throttle,
because I'm going like 17 knots.
And then I'm traveling,traveling, traveling on my

(38:06):
compass course and all of asudden, boom, the smell of
seaweed, kelp, bull, kelp.
Slow right down, put theflashlight up.
Oh, there's the kelp patch.
Okay, follow the shore again,get down here, shoot across.
So I was using ingenuity.
I was using a cigarette insteadof looking at a watch that
would blind me, because it wasdigital and I needed that night

(38:28):
vision when I was traveling.
That's why the compass lightwas red it doesn't blind you.
So there's tricks that I knowthat can keep you from as when
we began this podcast freezingto death out there.
There's tricks that I can teachyou to increase your chances of
a close encounter of the hairykind, be it with me or
afterwards.
And there's tricks to knowingwhere those sasquatches are like

(38:53):
right now.
The olympic peninsula is veryunique.
For the olympic peninsulawashington state, puget, all the
way to Alaska, because it's theonly place I know that has
year-round salmon and steelheadspawning in the shallow water of
the creek streams and going upthe rivers.
And then you have all the elkand the deer and the urban edge

(39:16):
produced foods, the shellfish onthe beaches, the smelt
hooligans that come into therivers in the springtime, the
perch that are on the beachesthat come in and surf to spawn.
This is an abundant, abundantfood source for them and that's
why I figure there's 165 to220-plus Sasquatches just on the

(39:38):
Olympic Plains alone and that'swhy we get so many reports on a
weekly basis is just on theOlympic Peninsula alone, and
that's why we get so manyreports on a weekly basis.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Are you now this project that you're working on?
Are you sending some of theresearchers up into the national
park, or are you just doing theresearch around, like more on
the peninsula itself, like moreon the ocean side?
Or are you spending more time,like on the San Juan, the Port
Angeles side?

(40:06):
Where are you sending them,mostly when you guys are doing
this?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I'm not sending any research To me.
There is no researchers.
Until we get a Diane Fossey,jane Goodall interaction, then
you're a researcher, everyone'sa bumbling, stumbling,
speculating investigator and I'mone of them, an investigator.
So you know people are, youknow I work not closely, but you
know, every few months I'llcommunicate with, uh, shane

(40:34):
corson, with the olympic project.
Yeah, so when I first got here,you know I phoned him up and
say, hey, look, it's end ofapril, I'm living here on the
olympic peninsula.
I just wanted to parlay inprotocol with you.
Is it all right if Iinvestigate Sasquatch out here
on the peninsula?
And he goes, tom, as you'venoticed, the peninsula is vast.
He goes, how about?
Where you operate is fromCrescent Lake towards Port

(40:58):
Angeles area.
How about you look afterCrescent Lake towards the West
Coast Forks area.
Yeah, okay, so we don't stepover each other's toes, and you
know.
But we interact and communicateand share information and you
know, if I have questions I'llphone David Ellis from the
Olympic Project, living inWhitby Island, and you know he,

(41:19):
you know, gives me hisconsultation and you know he,
you know, gives me hisconsultation.
And uh, you know.
So, going out, the researchers,the ones that call them
researchers.
Sure you know, one of the thingsI find here in the us is a lot
of people still have thatgunslinger attitude.
It's like you know they don'twant to interact with one

(41:39):
another.
You know they'll spend morebad-mouthing and backstabbing
than they will cooperating andcommunicating.
And I don't get involved withthe politics of that level.
You know I'll make a fewstatements from time to time
about some negative idiots thatare out there, but in the most
case I'm just investigating.
But my door is open, my phoneis ready to be answered, my
email is there, my messenger'sthere, and today someone walked

(42:02):
in the store who lives here, not15, 10 miles down the road, and
now he's going to invite Peggyand I to his property, which is
pretty big, because he hasSasquatch activity.
Buddy down the highway.
We're working with himinvestigating Another buddy just
up the road.
Here he's almost either dailyor every other day.

(42:23):
He's communicating with us andwhere you know he's observing
that area, we go out into thefield.
But you know one of the thingsfor the listeners, if they do
want to come, you know we'regoing to use that on x app yeah
go for a ride up what we callthe razorback and other areas
and we're going to find a primearea for May and June, elevated,

(42:44):
to have a rendezvous wherewe'll get permission from the
logging company.
We'll get permission fromwhoever else we have to.
If we have to get a permit,we'll get one.
But we're going to go up thereand have a Sasquatch camp out
for, you know, probably threenights, four days, so you can
come park here.
You know I wouldn't bring atrailer because these are

(43:04):
logging roads and we're going tobe up pretty high.
So, you know, bring in a camperor tent and you know, we're
going to charge, you know,probably a few bucks per person.
We've got to pay for it becauseI'm going to have to take days
off work.
So is Buddy, and you know we'regoing to go out there.
And we've got to pay Peggybecause she's going to put the
mask and regalia on and do theperformance that we do at

(43:24):
conferences out in the middle ofTimbukno or on top of some
razorback ridge.
So we have a 300 degreeobservation area and hopefully
we're going to bingo a Sasquatchand vocalizing.
Maybe we'll pick it up on ourhigh end flurs.
That's why we're going on thatRazorback, because we've done it
before.
It'd be a good experience forother people to come out and

(43:48):
interact with us, learn from us.
We're going to do how to pourcast demonstrations, how to use
audio recorders, how to useparabolic mics, how to use flurs
properly.
It's going to be an expeditionof a lifetime for a lot of
people who've never done one.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I think it's so cool, tom, that you're doing this and
it really boots on ground,getting the education, uh, like
I mean, what better way than tolearn, than to do the work right
, to learn the process?
Not being in, uh, in a cozy youknow classroom learning and you
know looking throughresearchers and books and things

(44:25):
of that nature but going out toa site to be able to firsthand
have experience, to do thecasting, to be able to look over
how to use the tools that yougot, uh, that prepare you guys
for your guys's expeditions.
What an amazing opportunity.
What I love to do, tom, too,while we're sitting here doing

(44:49):
the show.
If someone's interested, pleasego to Tom's email.
You can go to his website,sasquatchislandcom.
You can click on his name, youjust scroll down and email Tom.
Or, if you're interested, youknow, let us know.
Send me a text 775-990-5151.
If you're listening on theradio stations across our us

(45:13):
phenomenon radio network, pleaselet us know.
We'd love to hear from you, tom.
Of course, as things get closerfor you, you know we're going
to have to have you come back onto talk about all this good
stuff.
You know that and you know,once you go live with this thing
.
We definitely have to have youcome back on.
We're going to pump it, we'regoing to promote it and, who

(45:34):
knows, maybe we'll do somethingcool and you know who knows,
maybe we'll go up thereourselves and take some video
for you know, for some socialmedia stuff, for people to.
You know, look at, havefirst-hand experience.
Tom, what's so interesting aboutwhat you were saying a few
minutes ago about you know thisis you know how there's so many

(45:57):
people out here doing this, butthere are so many people
bad-mouthing each other and it'sreally it's a small community
right Of of.
You know, people that are outhere that are looking for in
search of uh evidence, if it'suh Sasquatch themselves, if it's
uh a footprint, if it'swhatever evidence that they're

(46:19):
looking for.
To me it just seems like thecommunity is so small why
anybody in that community, orany community in general, would
be bad mouthing each other.
And I know that there is somany different avenues and
realms and folklore legends ofhow people are looking for
sasquatch, or even have said, uh, that sasquatch may not even be

(46:44):
from here, you know, um, so Iknow that there's all types of
different versions of whatpeople are saying out there and
I know that, uh, for me.
I always tell everyone I, ifI'm going to have this
experience for me and this isjust me I believe that sasquatch
is indigenous to the planet.

(47:05):
So if anyone ever asks, I'vealways at least expressed that
from myself.
Now I know I've had others onthe show who have talked about
sasquatch being something else,not from here, a trans
dimensional things of thatnature, and I tom, I know we've
gone over this multiple times,at multiple times my legs hurt

(47:27):
and you're pulling it.
I, I, I know I know to me, tom,there's enough room on on the
spectrum, um, for these types ofthings, my thoughts with you,
tom, I in in how I look at thethese types of things, my
thoughts with you, tom, and andhow I look at the these types of
situations.
There's room for everybody,right, it's how everyone

(47:49):
navigates and respects eachother's lane, and I think that's
where you were coming from inthat place that you know, hey,
you're like, okay, cool, that'syour thing, that's not my thing.
This is what we're, you knowwe're doing over here, but for
that team or that other group,then to you know, vice versa,
bad mouth or sabotage, maybesomething that you're doing that

(48:09):
not okay.
And I know it's such a small,small, small knit community, tom
, we've been having a lot ofpeople ask us in general to do
another, like what we did, thebigfoot round table at lost
woods brewery.
You know a lot of thank you tolost woods for for hosting us,
but the work that goes intothese types of events is so

(48:31):
grandiose that it takes a lot, Imean, and even for yourself, to
go out to do what you're aboutto do.
It costs money.
It takes, it takes, it takespersonnel.
It takes a lot of time, sweat.
I mean.
For you to put that type ofthing together, tom, that takes
a lot of work.
You got to plan it, you got tolook for, you know the, you know

(48:52):
make sure you get the permits,and so then you do all this
research, you get everythingdialed in to procure a great
experience for the people thatare coming out to to do this
hike or this experience with you.
Um, so it was super awesome.
I can't wait to you know, sharethis with others.
And, tom, I know that we'vewe've been holding back for a

(49:13):
while, and it's been already twoyears since we've done that,
that round table.
Can you believe that that wastwo years ago?

Speaker 3 (49:20):
well, one of the things you know.
Like forks, I manage sasquatchlegendcom, you know, the largest
sasquatch store and museum innorth america, and we've, for
the last three years in a row,we had the fork sasquatch
festival and, uh, the owner ofthe company, he decided for

(49:41):
we're not going to have it.
And it's exactly what you said.
It's you know, it's uh, it'sthe cost you know, and we're way
out here in Forks.
So what I've done is I've said,okay, we're not going to do the
conferences here, I'm going toconcentrate more on maybe trying
to do once a month expeditionsfor people.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
So the same amount of money it would cost you to go
to.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Like Kelso Longview last weekend had their
conference.
You know some people probablytraveled a state or two over to
come to it.
So the amount of money it coststo go to a conference you can
come to Forks and do anexpedition of a lifetime and you
know one of the things youmentioned earlier about you know
getting along, everyone gettingalong I forgot to mention it is

(50:23):
when you said are you guysinvestigating in the state parks
?
No, respect, don't step onpeople's toes.
We know the rules andregulations pertaining to parks.
If you're going to go in thereand film something or for
commercial use, or goinvestigating sasquatch, you
know you're gonna have to havepermits and go, ask commission

(50:43):
and adhere to the regulations.
You know, we'll go into theparks.
Sure, I'll have my P1000 Nikonhanging off my neck, but so does
everyone else that's out there.
You know we're not breaking anyrules or laws there.
But as far as you know puttingout trail cameras and audio
recorders, and that we try tostay out of the parks.
And that's why Peggy went andgot that OnX Hunt app, because

(51:07):
we now know we can drive downthe 101 west part of the highway
and we're in the OlympicNational Park.
But if we turn up that gravelroad at Tlaloc Campground in the
park and go up that gravel roadacross the street from that
campground within a quarter mile, half a mile, we're out of the
park.
We're now in state land yeah sorespect.

(51:28):
And then that's you know, one ofthe things that sasquatch
teaches us hairless, bipedal,dumbest critter on the planet.
They teach us that we alwaysgot to respect one another.
Sasquatches they.
We have no oral or written orpictograph paintings on rock

(51:48):
walls depicting Sasquatchesfighting one another, but we do
have oral history, writtenhistory and a pictograph of
humans attacking Sasquatches andwe know the reports of humans
attacking Sasquatches.
We can just go to the apps orthe channels on our TV and watch

(52:08):
a show from one of the stateswhere they go out and hunt the
mountain monster.
You know respect, neverdisrespect a Sasquatch.
Don't ever tree knock becausethat's a Sasquatch.
People and the humans stop,stop, turn around, go back where
you came from.
Or another animal, a black bearhere's a tree knock because I

(52:29):
tested it.
Oh, look, there's a black bear.
So I grabbed the stick, turnedand bolted, so the black bear.
Three times I've done that andthree times I've seen a bolting
black bear.
They know that's the sound ofthe Sasquatch telling the black
bear stop, turn around, go backwhere you came from.
I'm here, or I'm here with myfamily, so never tree knock.

(52:50):
You're just telling theSasquatch in their home to stop,
turn around and go back whereyou came from.
What are you talking about, youdisrespectful, hairless bipedal
?
I live here.
Yeah, you're here visiting herevisiting.
And the other one is don't everthink of hunting or killing a
Sasquatch, and that's advocatedby over 660 Indian tribes

(53:10):
throughout Sasquatch Island, akaNorth America.
They all have beliefs, names fortheir Sasquatch understanding
and perspectives, but thegreatest understanding they have
to pass on to everyone in NorthAmerica and the world is never,
ever disrespect a Sasquatch orthink of harming them or killing
them.
And that's something we have to, as the hairless, bipedal,

(53:33):
dumbest animal on this planet,need to adhere, to, need to step
up and understand that code,that bush code that we must, as
look at the Indians that havebeen doing it since the dawn of
our creation for hundreds ofthousands of years.
You know we've lived in harmonyand balance for the most case
with Sasquatches.
Sure, there's a few, likeMuchalat Harry, who got taken by

(53:56):
a Sasquatch, and there's a fewothers of female Sasquatches
being kidnapped by maleSasquatches and one coming back
pregnant I know of, and the listgoes on.
But when you compare it to thegood encounters between
Sasquatch and humans, to the badencounters of Sasquatch to
humans, the good far outweighsthe bad.
Respect.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
So Washington State does have a law stating that you
cannot right.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
No, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
And Oregon as well.
So for those who yeah, statingthat you cannot right no, yeah,
and Oregon as well.
So for those who, yeah, sothat's not a thing here, you
can't hunt for Sasquatch ifyou're from Washington State,
oregon, I just can't imaginethat someone would want to
actually kill a Sasquatch.
I mean I should take that backbecause it would be like, oh hey
, I got the first one, you knowthat back, but because it'd be
like, oh hey, I, I got the firstone, you know, um, but really

(54:46):
no, you didn't, because you knowthere there are stories that
have been shared, tom, and Iknow that you've shared some of
these stories.
The piece that most that doesn'tget talked about is your
connection with indigenoustribes who have shared with you
the knowledge that is soincredibly powerful and out of

(55:09):
respect I mean with you.
Sharing some of those storieswith us in the past has been the
knowledge that you have, tom,that you have been able to share
with us, with others around.
Is is invaluable.
Able to share with us, withothers around is is invaluable.
You have the most, and I'm nottrying to blow smoke up
anybody's.

(55:29):
You know tailpipe or anything,but where am I going to get
straight information from you.
Know, it's like I talk to othersand it's all speculation, tom,
and I get that, depending onwhich avenue you go with squatch
and what you're looking for.
And you know if you're, as Ican say this, because Tom will
say the woo-woo, you know wherethey're like.

(55:49):
They believe it may not be fromthis planet and they talk about
this trans-dimensionalSasquatch and that's cool.
But then it comes with a lot ofother folklore stories that may
be twisted, a lot of otherfolklore stories that may be

(56:09):
twisted.
That, um, that it's hard tobelieve.
So, tom, what can you sharethat you've learned from the
indigenous tribes, from locallyand maybe nationally, that you
might be able to give to, toshare with the audience, that we
haven't talked about in a while?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
well what I just finished talking about respect,
never harming them or thinkingof killing them.
Number one, yeah.
The other thing is that thewhole respect level I remember
being different in Omaha IndianReserve and up in the Northwest
Territories of Canada, isolatedIndian communities in British

(56:41):
Columbia that you can onlyaccess by boat or float plane,
and I was there with acommercial fish boat or when I
used to have my tour boat andthey would tell you about how
they would feed the Sasquatchfried bread, bannock fish meat.
You know ducks if they harvestthem, they knew they would leave

(57:02):
.
You know ducks if they harvestthem, they knew they would leave
.
You know fish low in thesmokehouse.
Knowing the Sasquatches didn'treally don't really like heavy
smoked salmon, like a lot of usnative tribes do, they'll leave
the fillets low by the door.
So when a Sasquatch opens thedoor, if he reaches up high he's

(57:24):
going to get the heavy smokefish and but if he looks in the
door and there's fish hanginglow out of the heavy smoke,
that's in the morning when theygo to the smoke house oh, books
was here last night.
The three fish I left hangingthere filleted are gone.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
And all of a sudden the next day they go out to the
smokehouse and there's a featheror a shiny rock or maybe part
of a deer leg, a deer leg.
So there's always been thatinteraction and it's, you know,
something you know like withinthe sasquatch community, the
majority of people get along,you know, like going to a

(58:02):
conference.
It's, you know it's like abunch of chattering, whooping
sasquatches hey, how you doinggood to see you, handshake,
let's have a beer, let's go havea hot dog together, because you
haven't seen each other forquite some time.
And uh, you know.
But when you get into thebusiness side of it, the
business side of it, thecapitalism side of

(58:22):
Sasquatchology, the industry,you know I've been attacked by a
few big names that are outthere.
You know, and you know peoplethat follow me in Sasquatch
Island.
They can put two and twotogether and know who I would
like to meet outside of aconference, in the back door,
out by the dumpster, so we canhave a little dance together.
You know, there's a couple,three of them out there.

(58:43):
But you know, I do know there'sa few others that are out there
that like to cast stones fromtheir ivory towers, glass houses
and shove daggers in my back,be it by text or orally, but you
know they're not mad enough tocome do like a Sasquatch and
look me in the eyeballs andmaybe find a dumpster that we
can discuss things with.
So to me I got no use for thekeyboard warrior, the lip

(59:09):
flapping little B, I, t, c, h,and you know people go.
You know like my boss commentedon a post I did on Sasquatch
Island, uh, two days ago, um,you know, basically pointing out
who's an ass and keyboardwarriors and so forth.
And you know I said look, youknow you got to have policemen

(59:29):
in the world and some people gotto call a spade a spade and say
what they mean and mean whatthey say.
And from time to time sometimesyou got to go duke it out.
What part of I'm an Indian for59 years almost 60, who was born
and raised on Indian reservesand been on them all my life
throughout the year?

(59:50):
What part of being a commercialfisherman for 46 years, don't
you understand?
I used to chase grizzly bearsfor a living for over 20 years
and now I chase Sasquatches withcameras and electronic
equipment to get that hopefullygood evidence.
And you know part of it.
Don't you understand that I saywhat I mean and mean what I say

(01:00:12):
.
And every now and then you gottahave someone like me to come
into a conference, like I didone time.
And everyone ran up to me andgo, hey, that guy you're duking
it out with on keyboard there acouple months ago.
There he is over there and Ijust looked at him, he looked at
me and I just went like a bigold bull, sasquatch, pushing my
way right at him and oh, heturned, put his tail between his

(01:00:35):
fat butt cheeks and ran out thedoor.
We'd never seen him at thatconference yet he paid $40 for
that lanyard he ran away with.
Never did get to participate inthe conference, so it's respect
.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
And I was going to go teach that man a little bit of
understanding about respectOrally.
But if he slapped me or didsomething like that, then I
would have went into fulldefense mode, sure, but I knew
he wasn't going to do that.
I just made him do chihuahua,stick his tail between his legs
and run.
And that's what sasquatchteaches us.

(01:01:09):
When you look at the omahaindian tribe, we're
investigating with lucas whitedown there, who's a tribe member
, and he's sent me pictures ofcrib, a crib toy, three miles
out in the bush.
Bicycle with one training wheelmissing three quarters of a
mile off miles out in the bush,a bicycle with one training
wheel missing three-quarters ofa mile off the road in the bush.
A little baby's toy that'sfound way out there.

(01:01:32):
Other people find cars andkids' toys way out in the bush.
What is that?
Some little Sasquatch goingwith his mama into the urban
edge to go for the compost orthe fruit and veg in the
backyard while the humans aresleeping, all of a sudden bends
down and goes look at this.
Squeak, squeak, ring, ring,twist, twist.
Oh, that's nice.

(01:01:53):
And whatever that toy is, theybring it into the bush.
But then, all of a sudden,another Sasquatch from the clan
comes around.
The hell are you doing?
Drop that right now.
We have laws, very strict laws.
We don't take or use anythingfrom the hairless bipedals
Because, as the Omaha and othertribes have taught me and my

(01:02:15):
tribe as well, they have laws,very strict laws.
They have language, they havesong, they have laws, very
strict laws.
They're simply humans of thenight, a perfect human, because
they don't use fire, they don'tuse weapons, they don't use
tools.
For the most part they don'thave permanent structures and

(01:02:36):
they don't have clothing.
So to me, I know Sasquatchesare the perfect bipedal creature
that we can only wish we couldbe like that, are the perfect
bipedal creature that we canonly wish we could be like that.
We talk of love and empathy andcompassion and religion and how
God says we need to be likethat, but come on, blow it out

(01:02:58):
your back end.
We ain't anywhere close to thatharmony and balance as a
species, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Tom Sasquatch, is these conferences that you were
just talking about, that itseemed to be.
Should we say far and fewbetween now or that the
conferences?
I think you and I have had thisdiscussion, uh, over the phone
multiple times, but are weseeing a trend here where

(01:03:25):
conferences are starting to goaway, like because they're not
bringing in what they used to?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
well, I wouldn't say going away.
There's actually last year,2024, because I keep track of it
, I save everyone's posters,yeah and uh, and so we
definitely had an increase over2022.
2023 and 2025 looks to be big,if not bigger again.
But the mistake they're makingat the conferences it's greed,

(01:03:57):
profit, fill it to capacity,sell out, get, get the vendors
sold out four to six monthsbefore the event even starts.
It's all about the big old buck.
So it's always the same andthey're good friends of mine
Jeff Meldrum, cliff Berrickman,you know, adam Davies Actually I

(01:04:18):
won't mention his name, I gotno use for that, yeah, but he's
always at the conferences.
But anyway, it's always thesame people, the same lineup.
And then there's the ones thatthey know.
Okay, we budgeted to get thebig guys in the drawers to sell
the tickets.
Okay, now we'll bring in thelocal guys that are just really
bumbling and stumblingspeculators.

(01:04:39):
I look at them and do researchon.
You know, like I tell people, doresearch on the researcher
before you do investigating ofthe Sasquatch or what they
sighted or seen, and you find alot of these people I don't know
them from a hole in the ground,but they're more regionally
specific.
So if you're going to go to aconference in Tennessee, it's

(01:05:00):
going to be people from aroundthere.
You're going to go to aconference in New York State or
Minnesota, it's going to bepeople from around there and a
couple mainliners that go inheadliners.
But if you want to go to aconference or put a conference
together, you're really going toget from the woo-woo spiritual
spectrum right to the critterist, hardline right-wing

(01:05:23):
Sasquatcher like me who doesn'tgo into the other side of the
spectrum because I've neverexperienced it in numerous
encounters with Sasquatch likeme, who doesn't go into the
other side of the spectrumbecause I've never experienced
it in numerous encounters withSasquatch.
Then you need to put aconference together or go to one
that has a big North AmericanIndian lineup, and that's what I
want to see.
I want to see the PacificNorthwest tribes, for starters

(01:05:45):
Washington State, have aconference where you have
Shelley Covington-Montana for aDNA talk and investigating.
Mel Skahan for his Yakimaperspectives and beliefs and
understanding of the spiritualaspects of Sasquatch and his
territories and his encounters.
Tom Seawood, who comes therewith his Kwakwaka'wakw and

(01:06:07):
decades of bush experience withSasquatch encounters and his
beliefs and everything.
And then maybe Brenda, who wason one of the first expedition,
our Finding Bigfoot shows.
And then there's the Indian guyup in Alaska, and then there's
Lucas White from Omaha IndianReserve, who actually lived with
the Sasquatches when he ranaway from foster care when he

(01:06:28):
was a young kid.
And the list goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
What about Robert Alley?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
And then bring in your Jeff Meldrum to talk about
the science part of Sasquatchand bring in Cliff to bring in
his perspectives because he's sowell connected, cliff Berkman.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yeah.
You know I love listening to himwhen he's up on stage well,
sounds like we have a conferencehere, tom, we just got to make
it happen, right?
I think that's really yeah, andthat's something that I've I've
always told you and I know thatyou know for those who may be
listening, or you know driving,or maybe you're even a local
business look, this is this ismy ideal dream to make the

(01:07:05):
conference round table.
However, we want to discoverevery time I want to do one of
these, I want it to be so thatpeople walk in for free.
It's not being done, but I saythat.
And how you make that work isbasically, you have heavy
sponsorship that are going to beable to pay the talent and have

(01:07:31):
these booths so that people cancome to the conference for free
.
But that makes it so selectivethat we say, okay, we have a
venue that maybe holds 75 to 100, maybe 150 people, that's it,
we sell them out.
It's a VIP situation to 100,maybe 150 people, that's it.
We sell them out.

(01:07:51):
It's a vip situation and itbecomes a coveted ticket so that
people are who are truly thereto have an experience, get that
true experience.
That's just.
That is something that I'vealways wanted to do, and I know
we did the round table in uh atthe brewery sold it out was was
free.
No one got paid.
I think they paid in yeast andbarley that night and we thank

(01:08:14):
them for that.
It was a fun time.
But I can't.
It needs to be a bigger venueand more time and thought will
be placed into something likethat.
So maybe your local businesssend me a text text 775-990-5151
.
Let us know.
Send.
Send us an email.
We'd love to get in contact.
You will you know and we'll putyou in the right path.

(01:08:34):
Again before we wrap things up,tom, if they want to come and
find you and they want to do anexpedition with you, they should
.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
They need to go to your website right to go and
send you an email it's sSasquatchIslandcom, but when you
get to the home page, scrolldown to the bottom of the home
page.
That's where the VancouverIsland and Canadian and when
Peggy gets time next week she'llbe putting up the Olympic
Peninsula Interactive Sasquatchmap that I've been working with
Kerry Kilmurry-Claussen, a goodfriend of mine and fellow

(01:09:04):
Sasasquatch island uh member upon vancouver island, and it's an
amazing map.
You got to check it out.
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
I think I might go to the conference expedition page
I think I might have used thatmap, uh, when I was uh talking
with someone about those, uh,with those missing hikers
recently.
Uh, they were showing likelittle little big foots all over
the map on where sightings havebeen.
Yeah, tom, it's always fun tohave you come on, and so the

(01:09:32):
stuff that you were promotingrecently I know there was a shot
now.
Is that out, that stuff, or isthat going to come out soon?
What was it that I saw?
Was it a flyer?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
I think he's editing away, as you know know most of
the days here in fork.
She's retired and and she tookit upon herself and she's
getting a few things right now.
Our plan is to.
You know we'd like to.
We're gonna eventually do anhour and a half movie that'll be
on one of the streamingnetworks, but for the time being

(01:10:06):
, we want to like your freeconference idea.
We want to start doing youtubeshorts right now.
You can go to tiktok, sasquatchisland right and face, and I
did actually.
I posted today uh, three and ahalf minute short on sasquatch
island facebook group, where Igot biggie the big Sasquatch
behind me at the store and Italk about what took place today

(01:10:32):
in regards to activity ofSasquatch on the Olympic
Peninsula.
So, like I say, you know it'sjust follow me.
There's a lot of free stuff outthere and my YouTube channel
might take you three, four hoursto watch everything.
And Facebook.
You go join the group and scrollright back to the beginning,
2015.
You probably got about amonth's worth of entertainment,
education, laughter andknowledge to be gained, because

(01:10:57):
a lot of people can come to thestore and buy my book or go to
SasquatchLegendcom and buy mybook for $19.99.
But you can also go to Facebookand see the free encyclopedia
of Sasquatchology.
According to Seaweed me and youknow it doesn't cost you a dime
, but you're you know, trust me.
You read all my Facebook posts,watch all my YouTube videos,

(01:11:21):
you will be able to have a closeencounter.
Very kind, I'll definitelyguarantee you increase your odds
of that tom, I know how I cameacross.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
You was from the, from the.
Uh, the.
Was it a documentary?
Was it a series?
The bigfoot, uh girl, do youever talk to those?

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
bigfoot girl.
The movie yeah, I started.
Yeah, the movie sucks, but mypart is really good.
It's on net Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Bigfoot girl.
Hey, that's how I found you.
I was like I was watching itand watching it and then you
came on and I was like who'sthat guy?
That guy is amazing.
So when you see talent, youknow what I mean.
And I was like son of a, theseguys have a podcast.

(01:12:04):
And I was like you know, know,this is someone who is starting
his thing at the, at thebeginning, and, um, you know,
it's 2020 when I, when I comeacross it.
But, man, tom, uh, if it, haveyou talked to those, to that
individual, to that group andthat gal or no, actually I never
did meet the girl who stars inthe movie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
It was all magic of editing.
But you know I heard from themin the beginning when the movie
was released and a few things.
But you know who knows wherethey are now.
But you know, for everyonelistening, don't forget.
You know, last week, season six, expedition Bigfoot, episode
one, I was in it and you know, Itell you, my tongue was

(01:12:47):
bleeding, I was biting it for somany months not allowed due to
confidentiality, and then theproducer phoned me and said, tom
, yeah, it's airing on the 22ndof January.
You can post all you want nowabout you being on the series.
So I posted about me onExpedition Bigfoot, the series.
So I posted about me onExpedition Bigfoot.
It's between commercials, but Ishared information about the

(01:13:12):
Rogue on it and a few otherthings, it's entertainment.
I've known Russell since heinvited me to his International
Bigfoot Conference in Yakimafive, six years ago.
Peggy and I met Maria when wewere at the hotel in July.
Man, that's an intelligentwoman, man.

(01:13:35):
She makes a big part of theshow.
Then I was out at night withBryce and then Biko, who you're
going to see on there.
We got to become good friendsbetween Bico with peggy and I,
and that's russell.
I consider him a friend as well.
You know they got a good series.
All the power to them.
I wish them luck and hopefullyand uh, hopefully I'll get on

(01:13:56):
another episode with them.
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
I mean, how cool is that?
I mean we'll have to go backand watch.
If you haven't had a chance oran opportunity to go see it, go
see it.
Um, you know, go support ourboy dom over here doing his
thing.
Uh, where in the hell did it go?
I was just looking for it.
Uh, here it is.
So if you know, if, if you knowyou got some time, go go check
it out.
Right, tom, you're in there yep, and just be patient.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Peggy behind me.
There you can see her in thescreen.
She's working hard and she'llhave something edited for
everyone to see, probably in acouple months, and then from
there, once she gets goodpractice with all the software
and everything, you're going tosee some amazing stuff from
Peggy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Well, I mean, the two of you are quite a delight and
I appreciate everything you dofor us and you know to be able
to share your time with us onthe radio and the podcast and
whatnot.
It's always been, it's always.
It's always fun and I knoweventually we will have
something tangible in the nearfuture.
If it's some type of conference, if it's a one day roundtable

(01:15:03):
thing, we are going to makesomething happen.
But it's got to be the envision.
It has to be for free.
So if you're a company thatsays, oh my God, I want to host
this thing, call us.
If you're like I want to be asponsor of this thing, call us.
Maybe you want to donate to thecause, send us a text.
Maybe you're like, hey, I knowthis kid who is super into

(01:15:26):
Sasquatch.
He wants to be a part ofsomething like this.
Tom, that day, as we wrap thingsup that round table, people
were thanking us so much and I'mnot trying to like just, you
know, pat ourselves on the back.
But people were like, thank youfor doing something like this
to be able to have this route,like to be open and to.

(01:15:46):
I mean people were sharingtheir experiences with us Like
it was nothing else.
What was so cool?
As these stories were real,these were people's encounters,
and it was making the hair on myneck stand out because, like
man, this, this is a big dudewho was a ranger out hunting and

(01:16:07):
he's he's like I know what Isaw and he's like I was scared
to death when I had my encounterwith Sasquatch.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
So we want to do something like that.
But don't forget, you knowlisteners that are out there.
You know people you know allthrough the country and the
world.
You know there's nothingstopping them from getting ahold
of you or me.
And you know passing the hataround, the oldest industry in
the world is church.
You know they put that roundwooden plate or metal plate and
pass it around.

(01:16:38):
They sure did $20,000 in a blinkof an eye.
So what I'm getting at is, youknow, there's nothing stopping
someone from another state orregion of Washington to get a
hold of us and have the three ofus Peggy, you and myself come
there to their local tavern andI'm sure we can find someone
who's, you know, well-versedwith Sasquatch and in

(01:17:01):
Sasquatchology, from that regionor state as well to participate
.
And now they have theirroundtable with you and you're
doing a live radio show, like wedid.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
That's right People stop and get.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Oh God, I wish we could do that in our state.
They're all the way over inWashington.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
We can travel.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
There's a thing called an airplane got wings on
it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Buy the tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
We'll be there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
We'll be there.
It's always fun to have youcome on.
Our guest Tom Seawood fromSasquatch Island, always a
pleasure.
From the Pacific Northwest aswe wrap things up here, tom,
thank you so much.
Peggy.
Thanks for letting Tom hang outwith us this evening and spend
some time on the show.
Tom, I know I will be talkingto you soon.

(01:17:45):
We are going to make somethinghappen again.
If you want to be a part ofsomething like this, something
that is unique, you want to be,if you're a Sasquatch enthusiast
, maybe you're out there doingsomething, or you want to be a
part of something like this,this is an opportunity for you
to link up with us.
Send us a text 775-990-5151.
If you don't have a chance, goto my website onairmariocom.

(01:18:08):
All the information will beavailable.
Tom's email to text us.
All that information will beavailable.
So, from the Pacific Northwestas we wrap things up, I'd like
to thank our guest, tom Seawoodfor hanging out with us from
Sasquatch Island For my entireteam Mark Christopher, sophia
Magana, mark Christopher, sofiaMagana and myself, mario Magana.

(01:18:30):
Be sure to look up at the skybecause you never know what you
might see.
Good night.