Prediction Show 2025 with Mark Jacobson

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to US Phenomenon, where possibilities
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the
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Good evening, good morning,good afternoon.
Whatever the case may be, I amyour host, mario Magana.
This is US Phenomenon.
Welcome Tonight.
Today, whatever the case may befor you, we pay homage to the
godfather of paranormal radio,art Bell, a pioneer that

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captivated a show that he calledthe Prediction Show.
For years, art enthralledlisteners with taking their
calls around the globe andletting them share their unique
forecast for the upcoming yearinto the future.

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We begin a very our own versionof the legendary show,
featuring the insights offorecasts from mark jacobson and
myself.
Tonight we aim to continue thetradition of exploring the
unknown, uncovering what liesahead.
So get ready for an eveningfilled with intriguing
prediction mysteries, insightand, of course, a touch of the

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extraordinary.
Let's dive into the future andsee what awaits us.
We are honored to welcome backMark Jacobson, an acclaimed
author, a pale horse writer.
The Rise of Conspiracy, theFall of Trust in America,
american Gangster.
Mark's insightful writingdelves into the intricate world

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of conspiracy theories and thefascinating life of William
Cooper.
His work provides compellinglook of social and political
context of America's paranoia.
Mark, it's always a pleasure tohave you come to hang out with
us on the show?
Uh, welcome back to us.

(02:11):
Phenomenon, it is mark jacobson.
Welcome back to the show, myfriend well, I'm happy to be
here, mario you know, I can't, Ican't believe we've gone around
the globe.
Another now, we've gone aroundthe globe.
Is it flat?
What are we?
We're not flat earthers.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
No, no, no.
I mean, you know, I like KyrieIrving as a basketball player,
but I wouldn't hire a guy whobelieved the world was flat to
be my point guard.
I mean, I just don't.
You know, there's a lot ofevidence that the world is round
.
But you know, you never know.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
You never know, I mean until we go up to.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
They might have been photoshopping those pictures
before they even inventedphotoshopping.
I mean, come on.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You never know.
Isn't it interesting right now,with the headlines that have
been going by?
You know, christmas has alreadyhit us I got to ask you, you,
you know this huge thing that'sbeen going on with the drones
and whatnot.
And, uh, president-elect, uhtrump, uh doing press
conferences and whatnot.
Isn't it interesting to me thatyou're president-elect now?

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Are we talking that?
Are we talking maybe thesedrones?
Is the news cycle that slow?
Because I've looked everywhereto see.
I mean, I've definitely seensome very interesting headlines
and like the doom and gloom, butit's got to be slow, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean like, for instance well, you know there is
some continuity in these dronesightings.
The fact that most of them wereseen in northern new jersey
first, because if you want to goback to 1938 and the famous
broadcast by orson welles, warof the worlds, which a lot of
people count as a key moment ofum, you know paranoia in the

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media, because a lot of peopleit was More of the Worlds, which
was most people know, or shouldknow, that it was originally a
book by HG Wells about aninvasion of Mar.
The Martians were going to comethere.
Now Wells was like he was 22years old at the time, three

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years before he directed CitizenKane.
He did this show in the MercuryTheater, you know, basically
making a play out of this Wellesbook.
Orson Welles and HG Welles Justa coincidence, they're both
named the same name.
But but, um, you know, and thatwas that was also took place in

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northern new jersey and andactually because people weren't
used to hearing that kind ofstuff on the radio.
So it's just, a lot of peoplejust assumed that it was real
because, like, they didn't knowthat you might hear something
that was fiction on the radio.
So they went out and actuallyseveral water towers were shot

(05:09):
at by people, by local peopleand I think it was.
They called it grovers falls,new jersey.
I'm not sure exactly what thetown was, but they shot down all
the water towers because theyresembled the machines that the
martians were supposedlyattacking the townships of
Northern New Jersey.
So there has a good precedentfor this kind of phenomenology

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taking place in Northern NewJersey, along with the mafia and
the Sopranos and all that otherstuff.
So, like you know, I don't knowwhy there was suddenly an
outbreak of drone sightings in aplace where there had been
drones all along.
There's no real proof to showthat there was more then than

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before.
But yeah, I think slow newscycle might be.
You might have your finger onthere, right?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And it's interesting because when you talk about the
War of the Worlds that broadcastI mean, there was no television
back then, so that was yourentertainment, you were
listening, you were sittingaround the radio to listen to
these types of shows that werebroadcast on the radio.
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That is not the case.
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So going back to our, ourconversations in regards to
drones, things of that nature,maybe it was just santa looking
for some extra help, man, youknow, I mean because you said it
was a new a new cycle.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, santa taking, yeah his elves.
His elves have beenalgorithmized right, I mean
they're ai driven, atomized, issent out there, because I mean,
they, they have actually changed.
When this first happened I livein new york, so you know been
getting a lot of this dronestuff on the local news, right.
In fact, they've been leadingwith it, right?

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You know that's been the mainstory after luigi uh mandione
got off the oh boy after that itbecame the lead story sure like
um and um.
He originally were reportingthat the drones were the size of
suvs and then that sort of gotdropped right.
That was like you know, thatdidn't really fly, so so then

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they got to be, you know, normalsize drones and they're looking
for something yeah well, youknow what are easy there's.
There's a lot of air traffic,you know, uh, during christ,
during the holiday period, oftime does increase, sure and um,
you know, people have a hardtime telling the difference

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between an airplane andsomething which is flying about,
like you know.
You know, two thousand fivethousand feet higher, lower,
those drones, and people have ahard time distinguishing these
things, the depth, especially atnight with the depth perception
, things of that nature.
Yeah, yeah, that perception isdefinitely on the decrease, I
think, but uh, for sure you know, hey, man, whatever floats your

(10:37):
boat, I mean, you know, if youthink the drones are attacking.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean I mean is this that people are like oh my god,
it's telnet you they're lookingfor, you know missing.
Whatever the case may be, Ijust I don't even want to put
that kind of stuff out there,just because for my own.
It could be aliens, you knowbecause?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
remember that I don't know you're.
You're a little younger than me.
You might not remember thisfamous twilight zone episode
where they um the, where the US,these people that you think are
aliens from outer space, landin a woman's house and it turns
out that the alien, thespaceship, is actually a US

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spaceship, you know, and they'velanded on this planet where
people are incredible giants.
And they've landed on thisplanet where people are
incredible giants.
So it could be that they'relittle, tiny aliens flying in
these drones, right.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean, I think we should consider that.
I mean that could be the case.
Oh, what happened here?
Oh, let me see if I can pullthis up here.
Oh, maybe I didn't get it right.
I was trying to pull up the, uhthe, the.
They're like nine foot, theywere nine feet, aliens or
something like that.
Uh, 1962, march.
Uh, second, 1962 is when thatpremiered.

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I was trying to pull that upfor us to and twilight zone.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it was agnes moorhead and speaking
of orson welles, she's actuallyin a lot of movies, um, but yeah
, so I think I may have seenthat in a rerun somewhere, but
uh, I was.
I could never.
They play them over and overagain, especially around the
years I'm.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I definitely was afraid of the twilight zone um.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
The music got me all it's creepy, yeah, I got had got
me going back in the day gotscared me for sure.
I was definitely scared um well,that's the one that picture.
There is the one from the mostfamous twilight zone, where they
um, they um, give this.
The aliens come down and theygive the man, give humans this

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famous book, and they're tryingto translate it, and all these
humans are going to the alienplanet, you know, and they don't
seem to come back.
But everybody assumes it's likethey're enjoying up there.
And then it turns out it's thename of the book is to serve man
, and it turns out.
And then the last thing you seeis this guy screaming it's a
cookbook, it's a cookbook whichwas like the best one.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Oh my god, that is so good.
Think about that.
Can you imagine people are likethe ufos, are the?
The drones are dropping offcookbooks.
I, I mean tongue in cheek.
Little tiny, little tinycookbooks right you know, it's
like everything that's beengoing on.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
You know just, reality isn't what it used to be
.
It is.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
It sure is not I mean the competition to stay, to
stay relevant in a, in a, in anew cycle, to be able to say wow
, I'm definitely.
I'll be honest with you, man.
It's like even doing the showonce a week and I know we're
ramping up to do two hours onone of our radio stations.
So we will be doing two-hourshows coming up in 2025.

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We will be expanding to grabmore radio stations across the
country.
That is coming in 2025.
Those are predictions.
Those are hard predictions.
I know one of them will be true.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Those are not predictions, those are like
actual facts.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Those are coming.
Yes, we are working very hard.
That is a huge goal for us thisyear.
But it's interesting because,when you talk about the reality,
people on social media, I mean,have taken the drone situation,
the election situation to allthese different avenues and I'm
like, how much of this is AIdriven?
How much of this goes intothese other buckets?

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It's just, it's crazy becauseyou're like you know you do the
show and you're like man.
I mean I mean I can't even keepup, but you know we try, we try
.
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Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, I mean, I have a few predictions.
Sure, I have some.
All right, you know what do youwant to start?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I, you know, let's start with technology,
technology.
What do you think about thiswhole advancement of technology
the AI future, the quantumcomputer, the you know, I don't
want to say cutting, yes, it iscutting and other cutting-edge
technologies, maybe like thevisual glasses, things like that
.
Do you think that's?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Well, I think it's like people have to get off the
idea that all this technologicaladvancement is definitely gonna
lead to a nasty future.
I mean, um, like ai, you know,like, for instance, I, I do this
uh reading series here in newyork at a bar called the kgb bar
.
It's just, you know, it's namedthat, but it's a famous bar.

(15:43):
We've been doing this, we'vebeen doing this reading series
for 33 years and I wanted to doa session we do different topics
, you know, because we havethese readers mostly journalists
to come and I wanted to do oneon the future, right for next
month, because there'll be a newmonth, and everybody that

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wanted to participate all hadthese like really brutal, you
know, dystopic ideas about whatwas going to happen.
Nobody in the world seems tobelieve that tomorrow is going
to be better than today or todayis better than yesterday.
Everybody's living in the pastand you know, I felt that I

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wasn't really willing to acceptthat, because you know there is
another way to look at this kindof stuff.
You know the world's going tokeep on going, no matter what,
and you know why not be a littlemore optimistic about it.
I mean, not every singletechnological advance or d you

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know, devolve opposite of theadvance is necessarily going to
be a bad thing.
Um, you know so I mean it's sotrue when you say that, because
you get away from that, and whenyou talk about it's true you
know when you talk about whatyou were doing there.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Uh, you know, to have that, to do something like that
.
It's funny because when you, Iwent to go back to listen to
some of the old prediction showsfrom art bell and it was I mean
, you'll be interesting to seewhat some of our uh texters say
but a lot of doom and gloom inthose days.
You know, oh, you know the 2009.
You know the uh, the they werecalling.
Basically, you know a from aformer.

(17:23):
One of the clintons is part ofthe devil clan and you know the.
You know that kind of, that kindof thing I mean so you, you had
these predictions in 2009 fromart bell that were coming
through, that were just it wasall doom and gloom.
There was nothing that was like, as you said.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
That would be like, yes, it's like, I don't know,
maybe having a look at, take alook at the advancement of uh
pardon the expression humanintellectual history.
Um, I know that that's a nastyword, but, um, the thing is that
, uh, because we're not supposedto think too much with our
brains these days somehow makesyou suspect.

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So like, um, the ideas are,like you know, when they were
inventing things like theairplane and uh sure you know
all that, which is very similar.
Actually, the the period of timearound world war one, the
beginning of the 20th century,is not that unlike now.
Right, um, you had these newmachines that came online more

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or less.
Um, cars, planes, stuff likethat.
That really changed everydaylife.
Radio, you know right,eventually, television, all
these things.
Now you've got the computer,which really has re completely,
is completely reshuffled humanexistence.
So and I think that there'snever really been I mean, your

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business life has totallychanged.
Your daily life has totallychanged.
Your relations with otherpeople have been totally changed
, just by the mere fact that youhave to go through this machine
that we're talking throughright now.
So now you, you got to look atthe applications of that and
whether or not this is just afact.
This is not, this is the way itis, you know.

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So what are we supposed to?
What are we supposed to make ofthat?
So people that are justbasically doom and gloomers will
always look at the downside ofit.
It doesn't mean that they'rewhen they talk about going off
the grid.
Those people that go off thegrid, they never stop using the
computer.
I mean, how are you supposed tolive in this day and age or

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talk to people unless you usetechnology.
So there's no.
And since I mean, there's anarrative about technology that
really kind of begins with that2001, when the computer is Until
then, science was considered tobe your friend, right, right,

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you know science was going tomake things better.
You know human progress wasgoing to make things better.
And then, at a certain point,when the human brain became sort
of like the enemy of humanity,it's like the devil's workshop,
what's in your head, with thethoughts you might have and this
kind of stuff.
And it's a really complicatedtopic which doesn't really fit

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into this format necessarily,but most people read it as a
pernicious thing and it makespeople go back to the church and
believe in stuff that they usedto believe in.
You know, I'm not I'm notsaying good or bad, I'm not
making a value judgment on thiskind of stuff, but, um, you know
, right now we're looking at adystopic situation because

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almost everything seems to beout of our control.
We don't have control of thingsand there's also the
possibility that, since thehuman brain is stop me if I'm
going too far- going too crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
The crazier, the better, right?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well, the brain is a plastic protein kind of thing.
Is a plastic protein kind ofthing?
It, it, it enables you tofilter, you know, it enables you
to think.
It's what makes human beingshuman beings, or else they would
be something else without thatgigantic thing between our ears.
So, um, you, the, the brain, isendlessly adaptable.

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So if you're getting all yourinformation and all that sort of
stuff that we're talking aboutthrough those machines, you know
, I yeah, I'm not a brainscientist, but I'm interested in
this kind of stuff how is, howis that reconfiguring your
actual physiological makeup,sure of how you think, and all
that kind of stuff like that?

(21:45):
But it's not just propaganda.
I mean, I'm thinking that theactual machine, the machine
between your brain, you know,the gray matter machine, is
actually being re… Because it'sgoing to….
If you believe in evolution,that seems… I mean, not
everybody does you know, but…Right, if you do.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I happen to believe in evolution, so I'm thinking
that things Well, how do?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
you.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
You know, any kind of organism is always going to
adapt to its surroundings.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Sure, I mean, think about it, Like how much people
are getting, you know, likegetting their endorphins filled
from looking at, you know,social media and scrolling and
things of that nature.
And filled from looking at, youknow, social media and
scrolling and things of thatnature, and really it's, it's it

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, just it really has changedit's a head, right?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
yeah, it really is.
Comes from.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Um, we are getting some text,let's just, let's go ahead.
Oh, are you really so?
Look at it that way and thenyou can sort of say, like, well,
okay, I I mean, are we, are wethe things that are coming out
of our head and out of ourmouths?
I mean, is that actual humanreality or is that computer
reality?
I mean and it's like it fallsvery nicely into the idea of the

(22:57):
enemy within kind of thing Surethat that invasions of by
division of the body, snatchers.
Remember that old movie, yeah,yes, which has been used a
million?
I mean Trump was talking aboutthe enemy within in the past.
I don't know who he means.
But that idea that paranoid,that you're not in control of

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your fate, that is reallydominating the current thing and
that's going to be a majortalking point in any kind of
like vision of the future, whichis kind of what we're talking
about.
If you want to do predictions,I mean I can make a prediction
like, okay, um, donald trump andelon musk are now by by a year

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and a half from now, are goingto have this total public blow
up, you know, and and it's goingto be, uh, people are going to
line up with the musk idea thatthat kind of corporate technic
kind of crap thing.
Or they're going to go withtrump.
Who's going to be?
Yeah, regardless of.
You know this kind of a demigodat least he's identifiable as a

(24:03):
human being, right, you know?
Right, I wouldn't saynecessarily the same thing for
Elon Musk, you know, and I thinkthe Republican Party is going
to split on these levels.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
As we continue to talk about predictions for 2025,
it's interesting to me when youtalk about that.
There will be a lot.
I believe that you'll see ahard line in the sand and we'll
see how this is going to playout.
But as we continue to talkabout technology, I got to tell
you, man I mean as as a parent,you know, of a 16 year old it is

(24:35):
, it is it is.
It is very rough.
It is very rough, it is.
It's very challenging to to letthem have these types of things
but to uh to limit therestriction and and there are
applications within the phone touh restrict, you know, access
to be able to download anythingon on their phones, to to be
able to say you can only have anallotment of time on on your

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phone, or to be able to sendtext or things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
so I don't know if that's going to work.
I mean you're still, you'restill getting is if you're a
parent, you grew up in a certainkind of world.
Now your children are growingup in a different world and you
don't understand it the way, theway you would wish you did.
Right, they have a differentkind of mentality, right?
I mean there's really not anyway that you can.

(25:23):
You can put your foot down asmuch as you want, you know Right
, but it didn't.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
But it didn't, you're right, it's the point right it
the evolution of what how yougrew up versus how I grew up,
versus how she grew up.
What?
What I will say is listening toher, have a her and I have a
conversation about you.
You're, I go.
What do you mean?
She goes you didn't grow upwith you know a pandemic.
I was like, well, I, I, yeah.

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I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,well, I'm going through it with
you right now.
She's like, yeah, but youdidn't like miss school and have
to do it virtually and andthings of that nature.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
So it's interesting like that's a legitimate
complaint.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Sure you know, a legitimate feeling yeah, and I
was like, damn, you're rightbecause what they lived through
right and I and I was likeyou're damn right, I, I can't.
I can't relate to you, as youwere just saying.
I cannot relate to her, but Ican tell her.
You know I can't say the samething about 9-11.
She didn't.
You know she's a.
You know she's supposed to 9-11baby, obviously because she was
born in 2008.
But you know it's still to forme to say, well, damn, that was

(26:23):
like that was my, that the 9-11situation goes back to those who
remember pearl harbor bombing.
You know like you look at these, you know, I, I mean, I'm just
comparing my generation.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
We grew up with the idea that the world was going to
blow up, so you had to putbecause because they, they had a
, the russians had atom bombsand and they were doing the best
they could to convince you thatyour days were numbered.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I love those videos.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Nevertheless, we're still here.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, I do love those videos where you would go
underneath your desk, hold on,bend over.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I mean, I really did that.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
You'd hide under your desk, like that was going to
help you if if they dropped itout of bob right.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
The only thing they're looking for is we're
gonna live, we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
We'd be all right as long as they're gonna find.
They're gonna find you holdingyour.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
They're gonna find a bot.
They're gonna find nothing butvapor dust, maybe your name tag
that says tell you that right,right, they just said arc too
depressing.
They're like I think right.
They're like it just says arcon it on the name tag.
They're like oh, that was uh,mark jacobson.
Okay, so we identified.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
They used to have these things called shelter
drills.
They used to go in the basementof the school and then you and
you didn't speak because, likeyou know, somehow they were
listening.
But this was like I'm talkingabout this is 1956 or something
like that.
So I mean they don't have thatanymore.
They still have it if they havemore bombs than they ever did
ever.
So somehow people have realizedgoing in the basement of a

(27:56):
school is really not going tohelp you, so we don't even talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Just kiss your ass, goodbye, right?
Just kiss your ass, goodbye.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
But you know, that's why I feel optimistic about
these kinds of things.
I mean, the worst, the human,human, human brain has an
unbelievable capacity to thinkof the worst case scenario.
You know, I mean, how manytimes have you been thinking
like?
You know it's a little unsure.
It could be anything like whatthe test is going to be at
school, or am I going to find aparking space, or you know
whatever.
And you always think of theworst case scenario.

(28:29):
And then you're like amazinglysurprised what it turns out to
be easier than you thought Right.
So you know, but, um, you know,not always, but it happens quite
frequently.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
So I'm I'm always looking for the happy ending uh
legitimate happy ending, not aphony happy ending Right, happy,
right, uh, text coming in775-990-5151.
Let's go to this text.
It says um hi, us phenomenon.
This is jerry from ocean shoreslistening on kosw.
One of our uh, our, our localaffiliates down in ocean shores.

(29:02):
We thank you for listening onkosw and we look forward to two
hours of us phenomenon coming tokosw and we look forward to two
hours of us phenomenon comingto kosw.
So we look forward to that herein the near future.
Um, my, his, his futureprediction on the technology
piece is the ai will become anintegral part of our daily lives
and we'll see more ai drivensolutions in health care,

(29:25):
education and even in our homes,with advancements when in the
smart devices, the pace of ai,that's already happening.
Right, I mean right for sure,so pretty.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
That's a pretty safe prediction yeah, yeah, pretty
sure, jerry.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
We thank you for sending in your prediction.
It's awesome that you uh sentthat in and you know people
taking part.
Uh, we also have another textuh that I have here.
That's from a listener in duvalthat says I believe ai
development needs to slow down.
The rapid pace of ai isadvancing, posing significant
risks, including ethicalconcerns and potential job

(30:02):
displacements and privacy issueswell, that's definitely true I
mean, uh, thank you, um, bestwishes.
From a listener in duval.
Um, yes, I guess you don't haveto send us your, your full
information.
If you want to stay anonymous,please do so.
We just want you to be a partof the show and, uh, we thank

(30:22):
you to uh um, our listener induval, who's listening on, I
believe, kapy, or maybe he'slistening on the flagship
station KPI Did not say, butit's interesting to me.
When we talk about theseadvancement things of that
nature, I'm going to say, youknow, especially when we talk
about technology, mark, are wethinking that, uh, we?

(30:46):
Are we thinking that tiktok,are we the days of tiktok?
Uh, gonna be the band you thinkthat's gonna go through, or do
you think, uh, I?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
actually, I actually don't believe it's gonna go
through, because you got, youcan't throw away all those likes
and all those listeners, I meanall that stuff.
What are they planning on doing?
I mean, where is that going togo?
I mean it just gets bannedright unless unless they've got
some other, some other platformto to put it on.
I mean, I don't really.

(31:17):
I think it's all saber rattlingmyself, yeah I don't, I don't
buy it.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I mean because I believe it was my understanding,
uh, back in the the first, uhthe first time Trump was in it
during his administration, Ithink he had talked about
possibly banning it.
And now I believe that theadministration is looking at
ways to continue to evolve andmake this thing a thing you know
, to continue from having itbanned under the soon-to-be

(31:43):
previous administration havingit bent under the, the
soon-to-be previousadministration.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I I just I just really don't think that most
american presidentialadministrations, and certainly
the one that would be headed bydonald trump, is going to do
anything that's going to cut off, uh, financial expansionism.
It just you know, anythingthat's making money is not going
to be banned.
That's just me.
You can look for more stuff,like you know I.

(32:12):
I look for more stuff likelegalizing gambling, legalizing,
you know, the, the, thecannabis thing, all that stuff
there's gonna be more of thatyou don't think that?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
do you think it's not going?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
to Bambi.
That's not gonna be any banning.
Yeah, it's going to be.
It's going to be utilizing someprevious vices, things that
were illegal, to benefit um sexworkers as legal wealth.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
That ain't going.
That ain't going to go throughthe sex work.
The ladies of the night are sexworkers, or that thing won't,
no it depends on.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
It, depends on, won't .
No, it depends on.
It depends on, you know, itdepends on where, I mean in
europe, is you can look atwhat's happening.
I mean the people that I mean.
If you're making money out ofit in holland and you know,
whatever most european countries, I mean they might.
You might, because that that'spretty much a state issue.
Right, that's one thing that'sinteresting about it, because

(33:05):
you, you know, somebody mighttry it.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I mean it's true in.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Nevada, it's legal.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Right In certain parts of Nevada like Carson City
, pahrump.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, I mean, you know no wonder why I lived out
in Pahrump.
If it's financially viable,Right, you know why not?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Also, I think that that you know, I think the local
government can also, you know,look at this as some you know
side revenue to be able to, youknow, monitor and make it side
revenue and also it cuts down alot of bent up.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, aggression, yeah, sure it might end up in,
right, I just, but then you knowwe go back to this.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
You know this, this, this, this new administration
coming in, I I buy to be notsomething that we will see.
I think this will be because ofmaybe being more of a
conservative movement that we'reseeing right now.
I don't think that maybe thatwill be a thing.
Maybe the cannabis, but I justdon't see that that piece moves
forward.
Yeah, but who knows Anything's?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
possible.
I mean the cannabis thing.
I mean I'm a big supporter ofcannabis, but I don't really
necessarily feel 100% in favorof the legalization, the way
it's been legalized, I mean theway they've rolled it out.
You know, yeah, you know just,and here in New York the thing

(34:22):
has been delayed for a long,long time because they're
fighting about who's going toget the tax money, you know, and
it's led to all kinds ofirregularities.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's interesting because when you talk about you
know how, you know banks.
You know local cannabis is herein the state of Washington.
There's only like one bank, Ithink it's a credit union, I
don't remember which one, I wastold because I was opening up a,
a business account for, for, uh, for the production company
bigfoot productions, which thisuh, not not that I've made a

(34:55):
dime off of any of this, but umwork harder yeah, gotta work
harder.
Yes, uh, but there's a, there'sa few banks, there's only a
couple of banks that are aroundthat will take your you know
your weed-infested money andsecurely save it.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
So it's still pretty much a cash business out there.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean you can't pay with acredit card.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Nope, you cannot.
You can go to the they havelike.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I think here you can pay with a credit card actually,
but I'm gonna I don't I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
My mind is cool guy.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I got my, I got my guy.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, so um, but right, um, and
you know I it's funny becauseI've heard stories of um people
who will go on 420 and they havea guy and then they'll go to
the cannabis store buy it andthen take their, their, their
cannabis stuff that they got,and then their stuff and they

(35:53):
got from their, their their guy,and then intermix it to make
their own.
You know, because sometimes youknow what the concentration is
you're going to get from the,from, you know, from the
cannabis store, versus whatyou're going to get from your,
your local mom and pop dude orwhatever the case may be.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
So well, I mean, the thing is that the cannabis kind
of stuff is like from people Iknow that know, actually know
something about that right theum the main.
The main goal for commercialcannabis is to pump up that thc
number right towards 30, butthat doesn't necessarily mean
that it's better.
Better weed right you know,just because the cannabis, just

(36:29):
because the thc number is higher, that you know there are a lot
of other things that go intothat, that make you yeah, people
want to smoke marijuana so youwon't catch me.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I'm not.
I'm not that guy I.
I mean, I remember smoking backin the day and, um, not, it's
not for me.
I, I'm the guy that's from thething I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Another thing about that is like just what you just
said.
I mean marijuana isn'tmarijuana.
You know, they said thatalcohol consumption has been
down of late.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
You know especially among younger people.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I'm 85, I don't see how that could possibly be.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I'm 85 days without drinking.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Millions of bars that are all crowded.
But I mean, the fact of thematter is, I think, not that
many people really want to smokepot.
Yeah, it's not going to be thatkind of across the board kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Well, and Because it's not a social thing.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Sure, you don't feel like you want to go to a bar.
You hang out with other people,you drink, you, you do stuff.
You know blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But um, that's, cannabis is more solitary kind
of thing right and I I've heardthat people have gone to the
cannabis versus the drinkingpiece.
Um, I'm, I'm, I'm 85 dayswithout drinking, not because I
had an issue, but just because II wanted to feel better and
then, I was a social drinker.
I don't, you know, I'm not,I'll eventually go.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I'll eventually go back I just, I basically don't
drink, but you know if, if, if,yeah, if something comes up.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
You know I was telling my buddies like, hey,
are you still gonna do thetequila tasting thing with us?
Hell, yeah, I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna do that.
You know, it doesn't mean I'vejust I'm just changing how
that's going to look for me.
So I thought this was a funthing to do.
That, you know, it doesn't meanI've just I'm just changing how
that's going to look for me.
So I thought this was a funthing to do for sober October,
which was way long ago 85, youknow and it just kind of stuck
and I was like, let's just seehow and you're happy.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
you're happy not to be drinking.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, I mean, I was never a big drinker, but it was
just like, oh, let me to see howlong I could do this now
without you know.
Yeah, the social aspects ofgoing out and being with friends
, you can get through, if youcan get.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
If you can get through the christmas season
without drinking you probablyare you're probably a good way
along the way wow, because Imean you know.
But just to get back to the um,the prediction, one of one of
the things I feel about thetechnological um stuff that is
coming down the pike.
Yeah, like, for instance, I wasin um, I went, I went on a

(38:50):
vacation to panama.
Right, yeah, I want to see thepanama connect.
Now.
It was a couple months ago, sothere's no way to get on the
internet in panama except if youuse the vpn darling, oh yeah,
sure so that's it.
so, in other words, you have asituation where one person, if

(39:12):
he doesn't, if he's pissed offabout something, can flip a
switch and you're not on theinternet anymore.
So I think that that is, sinceit seems like nasa is more or
less being like before.
Nasa was the government agency,right, and big companies like
McDonnell Douglas and stuff likethat.

(39:34):
They worked for NASA, yeah.
Now I think NASA is beingfolded into the Musk company,
yeah, spacex, and that's a bigchange.
That will be a big change,because you're talking about the
privatization of space, right,which may be.
I mean, I really don't even butreally is it.

(39:55):
I mean, it's still it's still,it's, it's a, it's a feeling you
know sure it's, and it's, let'sbe honest it's still subsidized
by the federal government.
He's still getting money foryeah, you know so private my ass
, but I mean, well, it's true.
Yeah, you're right, it isprivate, but it's not like.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's not like nasa is the.
It's not the.
The person that at the you knowlike, as we all remember it as
growing up watching, you knowthem.
Bring in these video cards towatch.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
They're not going to be any john glenn figures coming
out of the elon musk era.
You know, I mean these kind ofpeople that everybody knew who
they were right and that kind ofstuff.
You know, I mean those two,those two poor people that are
stuck up there in thatspacecraft because boeing can't
get their stuff together.
Nobody knows their names yeahthey barely know they're up

(40:45):
there right, I mean, you know itwas, it's um, that's gonna,
that's a potential major seachange yeah, and then that that
that the idea of the internetand and space exploration will
be in the hands of a few peoplesame with electrical cars as
well too.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
I mean, if you're, you know they.
Yeah, I mean a lot of thisstuff.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I mean you know there's going to be.
I don't know how these monopolycases are going to go against
big tech people like Google orZuckerberg or any kind of people
like that.
They're inevitable that they'regoing to happen, but they're
not going to happen during theTrump administration because
that's not what he does.

(41:28):
So you know.
You know I'm not knockingDonald Trump.
There's still.
That's his model.
You know he doesn't want to dothat.
So, um, but there's going to bea lot of people that are going
to feel that way.
So that that's something that'sup in the air, but I think as a
prediction you're going to seefar more privatization, that

(41:48):
kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I mean, as we continue to go through our top
five predictions.
I know one I sent you the otherday too was climate change and
the environment.
I mean we saw here in thePacific Northwest.
I know there was a huge theycalled it the cyclone Bomb which
was this yeah God, I mean, Ikid you not, it was the most

(42:13):
interesting.
I didn't lose power, I didn'tskip a beat during the, but I
live in a building that is brandnew within the you know.
So everything was builtunderground.
So all of my I mean you, yeah,you got to take out a substation
before I'm going dark, right?
So most of these people thatlived in the foothills and the
cascades all were losing powerand were out for days.

(42:36):
You know, possibly You're goingto.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
You're going to see a lot of, I mean, what you should
see, but the insurance companyhas taken the lead here, right,
they're not going to insure youif they think you're in a
situation which they're going tohave to spend money.
That's against their ethic andthey're never going to do that.
So the federal flood insurancekind of stuff, people that are

(43:00):
insisting that they want to liveby the beach, no matter what,
and it doesn't make a differenceif the sea is rising or not,
you know they're still going toget flooded every so often, and
if they can't get floodinsurance, that's going to be
that.
So I think what happens is, youknow, there is a real

(43:23):
separation between the peoplethat can afford it, right,
people that can't afford it, andthe people that can't afford it
, and most people can't affordit.
So you know, that kind ofclimate change thing which they
can fight about, the fossil fuelstuff and all that's all
politics, right, but at acertain point it really affects

(43:44):
the social system.
I mean, where you can't buildyour house in a certain kind of
place.
I mean that's the Americanethic that you're supposed to
build your house wherever youwant to build it, that you can
afford to and get your littletwo-acre thing or quarter of an
acre thing, and then, if you getlike these no-go zones which
are going to be determined bybanks and insurance companies,

(44:06):
not necessarily by thegovernment, because it's poor
politics to um, legislate thatkind of stuff, you know people
don't like it.
So um, it's been proven by thelast election.
People don't want to be toldwhat to do sure, and I'm I think
.
I think that's fine, you know,but but there was a big downside

(44:26):
to this kind of stuff, becauseyou'd have to be out of your
mind to think that the climateis not changing, you know, I
mean, unless they're making upall these hurricanes and
tornadoes and stuff like thatwhich I don't think they are
Right.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
it's interesting because I know I've done a show
way.
I mean, we're talking way longago, back in the 2020s, and I
had a guy come on the show totalk about.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Back in the Stone Age .

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, talk about geoengineering these storms.
And it was interesting becausethen, as the evolution has gone
on, there was a segment but Ican't tell you if it was real or
not.
It was the meteorologist fromABC, ginger Z or whatever her
name is was talking aboutgeoengineering of storms and I

(45:18):
was like wait, is this real?
I mean, I really should go backto look for it.
But it was so interesting tohear something that I recorded
like obviously it was like atthat point was you know, in 2020
.
But to hear it within the lastyear and a half, two years, kind
of like, threw me for a loop.
I was like wait, is thissegment a real segment that

(45:40):
she's covering, saying kind ofthe same information that he was
, you know, giving us sprayingthese clouds.
I got to go back and find thesegment yeah, but what?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
to what end?
Right, you know why are theydoing that.
Who's who's gonna profit fromthat?
Well, I mean, it's just andit's the same thing what is that
gonna do for you, even ifyou're doing it?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
right, I mean it's still tell me.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Tell me, I've got to know, I've got to know if
there's something like thathappening and somebody is
intentionally doing it, pleasetell me what they're going to
get out of it.
Just, you know, that's a proof,right.
Well, who was going to?
You know, it's the ancient oldidea of conspiracy.
Who benefits, right, right so?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
who benefits from?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
that you know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
So I mean, let's go back and look about somebody
named juniors ginger Z.
I mean, you're believing whatyou say I, I didn't say I was
believing it.
I just was like I think I don'tknow that I was believing it
would just for me, and it'salways been this way, as I've
heard the information before,I'm hearing it again and I was
like, oh, that's interesting,I'd have to go back and listen
to it.
I I've I'm always a skeptic tothat kind of thing, but hear a

(46:45):
mainstream to hear a mainstreammeteorologist talk about
something like that kind ofthrew me for a loop.
I was like, wait a second, whereare we going with this?

Speaker 3 (46:52):
But to go.
You know I'm wearing thesituation now.
We're like you know.
Okay, you're saying that, butprove it.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, exactly, and here oh the you know the stars,

(47:20):
they're trying to get us, youknow, and you're like who's
getting you, who's really tryingto?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
get you you know, I mean, why are we humans?
Are who has the, who has whohas, who has the actual power,
or whatever?
The machinery is that?
Whatever you need to do to makethat happen.
Please show me that right andwhat and what these, what these
machines consist of.
You know because you know Idon't know.

(47:45):
You know it's just like there'ssome a lot of the conspiracy
stuff.
It gets tiresome after a whilebecause it's just contrarian
kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Very much.
It's not the same.
It's not the same as what itonce I mean you wouldn't even
know about it.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I like a good conspiracy theory.
I mean, I love a goodconspiracy theory, but I've said
this a million times, it's likeanything else there are good
conspiracy theories and badconspiracy theories, and ones
that are stupid are badconspiracy theories.
They've got to have at least alittle juice in them, you know,
to make me feel like well, johnKennedy shot him playing.

(48:18):
You know they shot him thecrime of the century.
Yet nobody knows who did it.
That's a good conspiracy theory100%.
I mean, you know right, that's agood conspiracy theory 100 I
mean, you know, I mean, andthat's why it's still going on
here, like you know, you haven't, you have nobody, you have
nobody right, you have nobody toask you like, hey, you can't
really go back and be like hey,oswald, what happened?
And now everybody's dead.
So therefore, it'll remain,remain in the in the category of

(48:42):
you know, the coldest case outthere, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
So what's interesting , I mean, that's the category of
you know the coldest case outthere, you know.
Well, it's interesting.
I mean, that's the kind ofstuff, or like the DB Cooper one
too.
How about the DB Cooperconspiracy of?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Yeah, db Cooper.
Db Cooper is an interesting one.
So, to go back to this kind ofstuff, we were talking about
climate, I mean.
Then we got up to health.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I think I mean I don't know.
I mean I mean I don't know, Imean you tell me I was really
shocked about the reaction tothe shooting of that CEO guy.
I mean the enormous amount oflike, just like, well, you know

(49:24):
I'm sorry for his family and allthat kind of stuff, but gee man
, anybody, that guy, you know hehad it coming, that kind of
that kind of mentality which is,like you know, I got to say,
everybody I know feels that way.
I will say and I think that's asignificant event what I've
heard and what I've seen aroundthe pacific.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
There was a sign I don't know if you saw this here
locally that someone put up youknow one ceo, down many more to
come.
Someone put that on one ofthose construction reader signs
here in the pacific northwestand I'm like what is going on?
Where is the compassion?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
this wasn't like look , where is the compassion on the
other side, right.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Look for me.
Look, I'm one of the guys who,you know we all have been
screwed over by the health caresystem Some way, some shape or
some form.
Look, I'm not someone who'slike, oh, they got one.
You know like, yeah, that ain'tme.
I'm not that who's like, oh,they got one, you know, like,
yeah, that ain't me.
I'm not that kind of person.

(50:30):
I like I, that's not how Ithink, that's not how I'm wired.
That was a human being that waskilled.
Now we're going to find outwhat exactly.
Maybe we're going to find outmore about, you know, maybe he
was living a secret life.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
We don't know, you know, I mean regardless of what
the actual details of thatparticular case is.
The real thing that wassurprising and shocking and kind
of interesting, like in a bigdeep way, was the reaction to
the idea of, like these people,these are the people with the

(51:03):
real power.
They have power life and death.
You know, sure, I mean asopposed to like you know well,
Joe Biden, people with the realpower.
They have power of life anddeath, you know, sure, I mean as
opposed to like you know well,joe Biden, he's a terrible guy,
but I mean, or like you know,whoever you want to say, I mean,
these guys are.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
There is one thing I've wondered the red tape and
the whole you know, making sureyour I's and dot's are T's and
cross and stuff like that, right?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Well, also, I mean, the thing is like, you know,
whatever happened I mean, whenyou talk about social movements,
whatever happened to the EarthFirsters and those kind of like,
and even Occupy Wall Streetguys, there was energy in that,
you know.
From the other, you know, it'snot necessarily political left,
these are people that are angryabout something right, right,

(51:49):
left, right.
These are people that are angryabout something, right, you
know, and that, that, that angerthing was sort of, you know,
you gotta, anger is somethingthat's like a gas, you know,
right, it's got to come outsomewhere, you know.
So, um, and uh, I think thatthis thing, one of the part of
the, uh, I mean, it's kind ofshocking.
But to read the new york timescomment section and see a

(52:10):
thousand comments, um, you knowmore or less saying, uh, well,
it's terrible about that guy,but, gee, whiz the hell, you
know why.
It's about time somebody didsomething about that, even
though I don't agree with theact.
So that is a kind of likeunderground bubbling thing that
is.
You know, it'd be interestingto see how that works out.

(52:32):
Where is that kind of feeling,that, really, which is across
the board?

Speaker 2 (52:37):
it isn't just the kick me down movement.
It's like we've been down forthese people have been down for
such a long time.
So I don't want to saysuppressed, but um, uh the word
might be.
I don't want to say controlledeither.
Um it, maybe it is controlledunder.
Uh, you know they're like, well, we finally got one.
But this is something that maymay have changed over the

(53:00):
evolution of time in the last 30years.
I I mean they're probably moreless.
I mean less people going tochurch.
There are less people.
You know the evolution of like.
I mean how many people aregetting shot out here and
they're like.
You know these mass shootingsand things of that nature where
you're like it, the compassion.
I wasn't.
I never played with guns.

(53:20):
I I mean not that we were richenough to go to a gun thing or
anything of that nature, but mydad was like no, you don't play
with us very much to get a gunright, a nice paretta right.
But but still it was like my.
You know, my, my dad said thatyou're not going to play with
guns because guns as a kid isnot.
You're not allowed to play withguns.
Guns are not okay to be playedwith as a child.

(53:43):
Now, if you want to go to thegun range as an adult and as an
you know, then we can go, but inthe meantime I wasn't allowed
to have that.
That was just my upbringing.
Do what I say.
You know, it's the same thingas everyone used to say back in
the 80s and 90s that video gameswere making these kids, you
know, do these crazy things.
In regards to these shootinggames and like the grand theft

(54:04):
autos of the world and things ofthat, first, you know the
double oh sevens, that firstperson type shooting, there was
no consequence to it.
You know, you died, you cameback.
So is that numbing people?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
But look, flip Mario.
Consider the difference betweenthis particular incident and
most of these incidents.
That people go crazy about gunstuff right?
I mean most most of the peoplewho do these things.
That wind go crazy about gunstuff right, I mean most most of
the people who do these thingsthat wind up committing suicide
or like they want to getsuicided by cop or whatever it
is that their long-term goal isbecause they're not thinking

(54:37):
very clearly.
I mean, nobody who goes into aschool without shooting people
is thinking that clearly, right?
right so um, you know, butthere's a lot of rage involved.
So here the difference betweenthat those kind of just standing
out by the uh, looking out thewindow and shooting people,
random people and this guy, thereason why people and I'm not

(55:02):
condoning his act or any of thatkind of stuff, but, um, the
difference between this and thatis here's a guy, his back is
hurting him, his back is hurtinghim.
I know, I know he's rich, right,but his back is hurting him,
and if anybody who's ever hadany back pain can tell you when
your back is hurting, it's veryhard to think clearly.
So, um, and now he can't.

(55:24):
He used to be a very handsomeguy, he was the valedictorian of
the school, right, you know.
And now he's.
He used to be a very handsomeguy, he was a valedictorian of
the school, right, you know.
And now he's going, he'sdescending, and he's descending
kind of into madness, you know,in the way that Unabomber kind
of descending into madness.
Yet instead of going on a busand just shooting random people,
he actually figures out the oneguy who he feels is responsible

(55:47):
for his pain and he has thewherewithal to get rid of the
guy.
So you know, that's a differentsituation than a guy, a
disgruntled worker, goes intothe post office and starts
shooting people.
So the gun issue, which alwaysseems to be the thing that
nobody can get past, I think issomewhat mitigated by this

(56:10):
particular act.
And I think that there's been alot of rage in this society
about government stuff, but verylittle rage about corporate
control.
Here's somebody who actually isdoing this.
So, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't besurprised if we see more of
that kind of stuff.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Corporate control sure, here'ssomebody who actually is doing
this.
So, um, yeah, I mean I wouldn'tbe surprised if we see more of
that kind of stuff.

(56:30):
I wouldn't be surprised I.
I would say that I don't know ifthat's a prediction.
I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's definitely.
Uh, it's definitely eye-awakingto see something of this
magnitude.
Uh, it will be interesting tosee how things come out, uh, to
hear more about the thesituations there are a lot of.
There are a lot of differentavenues that this story has gone
down in the world ofconspiracies, which are very

(56:58):
interesting the tunnel look atthe legs it has.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
It has an enormous amount of legs it's wild.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
On how many different avenues the secret tunnels.
Who is he tied to?
Now they're talking aboutpossibly Luigi being set up.
I mean, it's just like, as yousaid, the veins of these
conspiracies.
It's like a fungus, it just israpidly spreading right.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
But it affects people's and the reason I think
what gives these things likelife, you know, in other words,
like it goes on past, like QAnonor something like that,
something that really takes off,you know, yeah, it's because
people actually care about theissues that are involved, you
know.
So it's not just being stagemanaged by somebody.

(57:43):
People actually touch by theseissues.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Sure, I mean mean this could go all the way back
to you know uh, william cooper,I mean I mean think about like
obviously different times right,cooper is a legitimate person.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Man.
Yeah, he had.
He had legitimate bitches aboutthe society, right I mean he
sure did and people, and peoplecould uh identify with him, you
know he was relate.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, people could relate to him and and.
But what's interesting to me is, like I, the piece that I love
the most about and I alwaysbring this up because it's so
much too interesting to me is,like, what is this caucasian
white male in his 50s have?
How does he relate to, like thehip-hop community?
You know, like you said this somany times, and it's so

(58:26):
interesting to me because is itbeing the suppression of of a,
of a society, you know, of arace?

Speaker 3 (58:33):
um, well it.
It kind of like, you know that,that idea that the book, that
his book, behold the pale horse,became so popular, and that was
the first thing that really gotme interested in the topic.
Right, right, I said, oh, thisbook is the most popular book in
the prison system.
Right, I mean the number one.
There are two books that everyprisoner would read.

(58:53):
That one and mostly blackpeople read that actually,
because for some reason theyidentify with it.
And then there's the other one,that robert green book, the 48
laws of power.
Now, those two books were themost read books in prison, or at
least for a period of time.
I don't know what they read now, but, um, you know it's uh.

(59:13):
So why is that?
He got a?
He got a pretty paranoid whiteman who lives on top of a hill
in the middle of nowhere, right,and he got a bunch of black.
You know neo-rappers, you knowpeople before, you know, because
the book was written in 1991.
And it comes out in 1991, whichis like the end of the Cold War

(59:35):
.
There's a lot of, you know,they said that we got rid of the
commies, everything is going tobe fine, you know, but actually
things weren't fine, you know Imean so, maybe something else.
That was like making peoplemiserable, you know, um, these
things, I mean it, thecontextual thing of it, and then
also the paranoia expressed inthat book.

(59:58):
And I don't mean paranoianecessarily as a terribly
terrible thing, because, um,sometimes paranoia is completely
worth warrant, you know.
So who could be more paranoidthan a black guy who's in prison
, you know, who feels like hedoesn't belong there?
He's only there because he'sblack, right, sure, you know, I
think William Cooper spoke tothose people.

(01:00:19):
And then the fact that he hadthat stuff like the Hegelian
dialectic you know if you knowwhat I'm talking about, yeah,
stuff like the hegeliandialectic.
You know if you know what I'mtalking about, yeah, and that
that really attracted a lot ofthe kind of thinking rappers,
those kind of people as fivepercenter dudes who really were
the main rap groups in the early1990s, like everybody from

(01:00:39):
tupac to, uh, you know, prodigyand all those, all those big
early rappers know that had thatkind of like housing project
following and stuff like that.
These people were very, youknow, tuned into that same stuff
.
And you know it's one of theweirdest, it's one of the

(01:01:01):
strangest kind of leaps acrossthe racial barrier, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, we got a text coming in from tim, from
bremerton.
Should we, let's, let's, let'ssee what tim's got here for a
prediction?
My prediction for 2025 is we'llsee, uh see, a trend in more
people getting divorced comparedto the number of kids being
born.
Society changes interesting.
He believes that there's goingto be okay.
Well, I mean, I don't know timare you getting?

(01:01:27):
Divorced.
Is that what you're predicting?

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
You're getting divorced.
I'm getting divorced.
Yeah, tim Tim, that was what myreaction was.
Right, tim Tim?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
what are you projecting here?
Are you projecting that you aregetting divorced Tim from
Bremerton?
He must be listening to us onour flagship station.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
KVI.
I mean, you know, Tim, marriageis a difficult thing, Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Yeah, it is.
Go back and listen to ourprevious podcast.
We got up there with a marriageof 57 years, a couple that has
fought through the tumultuous ofrelationships.
It's interesting to me becausewhen I go back and I listen to a
lot of these differentpredictions and we talk about
this, you know, you know peopleout here saying, oh, there was

(01:02:08):
going to be this, this wholehuge thing.
Uh, a movement where you knowthe conspiracy in regards to the
election again, and I'm likewe're not, we're talking about
not a conservative, we'retalking about um, as we get
close to wrapping up things here, uh, a movement from a liberal
side.
I'm like there's no way inchance in hell that you guys are

(01:02:29):
going to go and do anything ofa sort.
You know, you know it's justinteresting to see to keep the,
the, the channels open that youknow watching the.
You know the twitter, the x ofthe world.
You know the social mediaplatforms, just kind of looking
the tiktoks of the world.
Tiktok is way crazy out there.
It is on levels that are likebeyond my capacity because it's

(01:02:51):
it's a free-for-all out thereand when you start doesn't mean
you're gonna, it's not gonna getbanned oh no, no no, I'm not
saying that's gonna get banned,I'm just saying that the avenues
of which, how people areconsuming that type of media,
how much of that they'rebelieving is true, how much of
them not being, you know able to.
Well, you know it's like oh wow,that looked real, that wasn't

(01:03:13):
ai driven, it was some guy madeup this full story about the
drones looking for some, youknow, blah, blah, blah.
However that plays out, andhowever these different
short-term stories are beingpresented, on whatever platform
it may be, and there are peoplesuch as yourself or myself I
haven't had any issues lately,but who get a strike, I feel

(01:03:36):
like it is my obligation, myduty as someone, as a steward of
this podcast, this show, thisradio broadcast, to continue to
meet the requirements of, of,you know, having a dialogue, to
be able to have an openconversation, to be able to say,
well, we don't know, you know,to be able to be like well, is
it possible?

(01:03:57):
Sure, anything's possible, butat the end of the day, that's.
That's what makes forconversation yeah, for sure, uh,
speculation, yeah, I'll tellyou.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
One thing I think which isn't going to be
interesting is, like you know,the way it's being played now is
that trump was like a massivewinner.
Like you know, he only reallybasically squeaked through, you
know, yeah, um, on the popularvote.
So, and now, due to the way thesystem is worked out, the the
winner-take-all system, which Idon't think is really that good

(01:04:28):
an idea, you know there's goingto be a lot of frustration among
the people that don't like himand they're going to come up.
They're not going to just sitthere.
You know they might come upwith there's going to be some
pushback here, and that's thekind of thing like you want to
think about.
If you look for something thatmight be a predictive thing,
like how the pushback is, the,you know, somewhat unusual

(01:04:54):
situation that we have now.
I mean, there's going to bepushback and how is that
pushback going to appear?
you know, it's not going to bejust is it going to be an image
being?
being all upset aboutmisgendering people.
It's not going to be like thatanymore because, first of all,
nobody cares.
Number two you know it's notgoing to get you anything, sure.

(01:05:14):
So this identity politics thingokay, we realize that, you know
it's important to a lot ofpeople, but it doesn't win
elections and there's going tobe some.
There's a lot of people thatare thinking about trying to
figure out what to do about thisand they're going to come up
with some ideas, and some ofthem are going to be good ideas

(01:05:35):
and some of them are going to bepotentially corrosive ideas.
And I think it's worth thinkingabout because there's energy in
the room and there's going toalways be energy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
You want to see how that energy is going to manifest
itself our guests and I markjacobson, as we get close to
wrapping things up from thepacific northwest and uh across
the coast, uh all the way in, uhthe east coast.
Um, we got a another text fromwhere the east coast Coast West.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Coast over here dog East Coast yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Prediction from.
We got another one from Jason,from Yelm.
He's predicting that we'regoing to see an increase in
volcanic activity around MountAdams in Washington.
Ooh, that's interesting.
There was some.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
That's an interesting one.
I like to see that.
Is he a geologist?

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
he didn't say he did not say that.
He didn't say what a?
Uh, a jason from y'all, pleaselet us know, stay safe.
He says clearly um, if you'renow, mount adams is Now.
Mount Adams is kind of nestledas a smaller version, it's like
near.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Mount.
Is it near Mount St Helena?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
It's like the three of them, it's like Adams,
rainier and then Helens.
So Adams is more towards Yakimaand the Cascade Range, and then
Mount Rainier is more towardsuh, like towards us, towards the
city, like more of thepopulation, and then and then
helen's hanford.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
When hanford blows up , it's going to be quite a thing
I mean oh come on no, please donot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
You know that is, that is a terrible, I mean
having been there right, it'skind of creepy place I mean
interesting prediction, uh,jason, uh, thank you for your,
uh, your prediction.
Thank you for hanging andlistening to us.
And yelm, uh, I'm not sure howmuch I feel about the uh, mount

(01:07:44):
adams.
I know that there was recently,um, in the last couple months,
there had been more activitywithin the last couple weeks
during that time period than thevolcano would actually then
what was actually has?
That would happen in a normalyear cycle, like the mountain
would have like maybe one or twoa year, but that it had

(01:08:05):
quadrupled its seismic activityat that point in time.
I haven't done any research soI don't know exactly what's
going on with the activity ofMount Adams, but maybe there is
a geologist that's listening ora volcanologist that would like
to come on.
Volcanologist, yeah, come, letus know.
We'd love to hear from you ifyou're listening out there.
Vancouver, vancouver, this isit.

(01:08:26):
We'd love to hear from you ifyou're listening out there.
Vancouver, vancouver, this isit.
You know that was the Mount StHelens call from Johnson, from
Coldwater 2.
The footage of that is justincredible, I mean, and now the
generated stuff that has changed, how they were able to take the

(01:08:46):
footage and change it.
If you go back and look onYouTube, it's scary.
I will say that it is no joke.
Every time to this day when yougo to Mount St Helens and I
don't know if the bridge isfixed yet, but it is eerie.
It has been so long.
But all the trees that havegrown back, they don't look real

(01:09:10):
.
The trees look too uniform.
It very much looks like you'relike from the visual eye, it
looks like lego land because thethe, the trees, they don't look
interesting it is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
I like to go see that it is very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
And then when you go to Helen's at where Johnson was
at, now Johnson Ridge atColdwater too, is where they
built this observatory.
But where he actually was blownaway was just a little bit, you
know, on the mountain, but in adifferent area of where his
viewpoint was, at Coldwater too,which is now called johnson

(01:09:48):
ridge.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Um well, you got a lot of weird stuff out there.
I mean, mountaineer is thebeginning of the flying saucer
thing, right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I mean, come on, yes, you know, we got the, we got
the ufos with uh and that's whyI always call the pacific
northwest the home of uh themost paranormal activity.
I mean let's, let's be on thekenneth arnold uh prediction.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
You know, seeing the you ever been to Forks?

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I've been to Forks once or twice, but I'm you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Forks seems like a pretty strange place it is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
I mean, you know Twilight and that whole
situation, yes, but the OlympicMountains, they have a whole
team out there.
The Olympic project that islooking for bigfoot sasquatch,
they have a.
They have a museum in portangeles that that exists out
there and we you know um portangeles is nice man and, um, we

(01:10:36):
have a good, a good, a good, youknow, partner to the show.
Uh, tom seawood always comes onto talk about, you know, the
sightings and the adventures andhe's like mario, you got to get
out here, you got to, you gotto put, you got to put.
Pound of the pavement, you gotto start.
You know, I don't, I don't havethat time of resource.
I got to do the show so I relyon guys like tom and you know,

(01:10:58):
tobe, tobe johnson so, mario,just just not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I mean to interrupt, but I mean what?
What are your predictions?
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
you know, I have three my top three predictions
for 2025.
Um, you know, I do love thismount saint, mount adams
situation.
That's kind of fun one to kindof watch and see what's going to
happen with that oh, man, giveme, give me, give me some of my
own predictions.
Look, I think it's going to getworse before it gets better.
The first part of the year, Ithink people are still going to

(01:11:29):
be upset about the election.
We're going to see a lot ofpeople still really pissed.
You're going to see.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Any specifics.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Just people like I feel like there is a portion of
the population that feels likethey're being suppressed and I
think they're going to see anevolution and change in this
administration that I believewe're going to see something
good come out of thisadministration for everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Actually I agree with you about that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
I think we're going to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It's not going to be.
It's not going to be the doomand gloom.
I don't think it's going to bethe same four years all these
poor liberal guys right, reallykind of like you know, assume
that it's just going to getworse and worse and worse.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
But I think, you know , it's kind of like a put up or
shut up moment for the peoplethat are in power and and and I
think it's time for if if thedemocratic party is going to
believe a certain way, ifthey're going to continue to
move and exist as a party, theyneed to figure out themselves.
Look at their identity.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
I've got a prediction for you.
I predict that the DemocraticParty could disappear.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
I mean that is a very yeah, I'm with you on that one.
I mean, if it was theRepublican Party a very uh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Yeah, I I'm with you on that one, I think.
I mean, I feel the republicanparty, I think, I think that the
next, not necessarily the nextfour years, but the next, say,
seven or eight, ten years, maybenext to administration, is
going to be a critical point forthe two-party system in this
country and because I think ofthe republican party could split
, the democratic party couldsplit, and that's happened
before.
You know, it's happened beforeand it's going to happen again

(01:13:10):
and I think there's no reason tobelieve that things are going
to stay the same my otherprediction is is that, um,
what's interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
because what makes me think about this is, in this
last election there are probablymore younger conservatives that
didn't, that people don'treally think that are out there,
and that are out there, movingin a different way now, um, that
are, that are like light yearsahead of of old school democrats

(01:13:39):
, liberals that have comethrough the system and think
they are.
You know we got this by numbers, but they really don't and it
really did show in an electionwhere it's it's, it's.
It was something that I waslike.
I was like, okay, this isinteresting to me watching what
yeah, no, I agree, I agree, Iagree with you, and so you it's.

(01:13:59):
it's just something.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
You know things are.
I think change is it's, it's,it's, it's part of life
everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
And so, uh, that would be my first prediction.
Uh, my second prediction is um,we're gonna see michael parker
back on the radio show.
That's my shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
That's right, I hope, I hope that happens that would
be nice to have there might be awish right there sure mike
seems to be pissed.
I don't know.
What are we gonna do come?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
on, mike, we love you .

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
We're going to have to, Mike.
Come on, man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Come on back, man, we miss you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
We love you bro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
My other prediction is I think we're going to see
this.
One goes back to collegefootball.
I think Congress is going tohave to get involved.

(01:14:54):
This is like the mostinteresting thing that we've
ever seen, with all these bowlgames that have transpired, that
are about to happen, thechampionship just days away and
kids going through this likefree agency and asking for so
much money.
And I think congress needs toget involved and and set some
guidelines so that, uh, that I'mnot, I'm not against the kids
making money.
I, you know it is, it is whatit is.
These kids, these kids aremaking money, name, image and
likeness.
But to have two in, to have twotime periods where you can jump

(01:15:18):
into the portal to make the mostamount of money, one being
during the bowl season, whichreally changes the whole.
You don't know if you're goingto be able to play in the bowl,
okay, well, I trans mario'sgoing to, you know mario's going
to notre dame now versus mestaying at washington.
You know university and we'replaying for a championship or
vice.
Whatever the case may be, I'mgonna go play for another team.
So, having that piece, havingsome more control and putting

(01:15:42):
some guidelines to this freeagency for college football to
have a better representation forthese younger athletes to, if
it's a union or however thatplays out for them, giving them
rules and guidelines to follow,and you're going to see some of
that come to fruition within thenext year.
That's my, that's.
That's my outside of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
That would be along the same line, I believe that
Seattle will get their nbafranchise.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
oh, my god, I mean let's, let's, yeah, yes, please.
Uh, I mean I think about thismy daughter is 16, will be 17
and they're still.
She's never seen a sonics gameever.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
That's crazy to think that there's been any sonics,
and when did they move move?

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
right when she was born.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
When she was born 2008, they left well yeah,
finally, finally we have,finally we have a good team here
in the knicks man I mean, I'vebeen a nick fan since, like I
don't know, my whole life, right, you know, I'm 76 years old, so
you know and finally they havea team that I can turn the TV on

(01:16:47):
without like assuming the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Right, right, well, as we wrap things up from the
Pacific Northwest, I think in mylast prediction, let me give
you this I don't think thatwe're going to see an RFK ban on
Uncrustables.
I know that people were talkingabout this that we're going to
start seeing a ban on certainfood items.
I think that, um, this, thisnew administration is going to

(01:17:11):
do some things, but I don'tthink they're going to ban
things.
I think they're going to makeit better for for for humans to
consume and and maybe that's agood thing for us to not be
eating all these damnpreservatives.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
And you know, I think yeah, rfk is going to turn out
to be, and I think he's prettymuch out of his mind sure he's
going to turn out to be, and Ithink he's pretty much out of
his mind, but he's going to turnout to be probably the most
popular member of this kind ofstrange cabinet that Trump has
come up with.
Yeah, Because he's actually.
He's the biggest wild card ofall those people.

(01:17:41):
He's the least doctrinaire.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I mean he is, he's whacked For me.
He's not my favorite, but youknow, if he's talking about
banning, you know, food items, Ithink let's let's take a step
back and say he's trying tochange, mold something different
, and maybe that's what that'swhat we need, as a country, to
say you know what big companies,big businesses, things of that

(01:18:05):
nature, who have beencontrolling a lot of the
narrative.
You know why are people in theeuropeans?
They eat pasta all the time.
They're not, they're notoverweight.
You know what?
What you?

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
know because, yeah well, they have a different,
they have a different, they movearound a lot more.
That's true, they don't have to.
They're not totally like weddedto their cars because they
don't have cars.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Sure, you know, there's a lot of reasons for
that, and maybe that myprediction is that we're going
to see something we're going tosee disruptive.
We're going to see somethingfrom a, a very wildcard,
individual change what has beenthe norm for the last 20 to 30
years in regards to the, to whatthe food industry looks like
and good, bad.
That's going to be, that'sgoing to be to what the food

(01:18:45):
industry looks like and good,bad and different.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
That's going to be interesting to see if people go
with that, yeah.
Because, I think that first ofall, you've got these two
competing narratives.
Everybody wants to lose weight.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
So you still want to eat potato chips?

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
I mean look.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
I think the fact that he's there is going to engender
more talk, and that can't bebad.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
't be bad no, I mean, it will be interesting to see
how this goes.
You continue to send your, uh,your predictions.
Let us know you can send us atext 775-990-5151.
We'll put up a what?
Uh?
We'll put up a blog post, um,where you can leave your
comments and things of thatnature, and we'll put those,
these ones, up there as well.
As we wrap things up from thePacific Northwest, I'd like to

(01:19:29):
thank our guests Again.
Mark, thank you so much forcoming to hang out with us.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
It's always a pleasure.
It's always a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
I mean, this is year four.
I remember the first time I hadyou on the show.
You're like what?
Is this show called again.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I swear to you I know , I'm just some guy from
brooklyn, no man but what wascool was I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
It was like the best uh promo piece, um and um.
I will say this there is thethe.
We won't say there are versionsof this show that are out there
, right, and recently it was.
It's very fun to have guestslike yourself on who may cross
pollinate with the other show,and I had a guest on talk about

(01:20:15):
ufos, uaps, um on the show um,keith thompson.
Keith thompson was on uh, uh,from one coast to the next coast
and I was like I sent him atext, I sent him an email, said
it was nice to one coast to thenext coast and I was like I sent
him an email.
I said it was nice to hear youon the radio the other night.
And he sent me a text back andhe goes.
Oh my God, I was on for fourhours.
You know he did the entire show.

(01:20:37):
And I told him I said I'llremember that next time.
So we'll keep him on muchlonger, but we wished him a
happy holidays, make him work ahappy holidays.
Make them work.
Make them work.
But it was good.
It's good to hear that we'restaying relevant to what people
are looking for and again welook for a prosperous 2025 again
, uh, as we wrap things up forthe year 2024, uh, I thank you

(01:20:59):
for coming to hang out all ofour guests.
Uh, thank you for those whowere a part of our text, sending
in their predictions.
We will read your predictionsback next year.
I promise you that.
For all our affiliates, kosw,thank you again for the added
bonus show.
They are doing a New Year's Eveshow.
Go to their website at KOSWcomto go check out their link to

(01:21:22):
their New Year's Eve show thatis coming up, if you haven't.
We will be on two hours at OceanShores and get ready for a new
format on us phenomenon where wewill be having two guests per
show.
Now to, uh, kind of changethings up so you'll be able to
hear the entire interview withour guests either guest, but
they will be in long formcontent that you can listen to

(01:21:43):
and download.
For our affiliate and KAPY, wethank you so much.
Our flagship station, kvi,thank you again for everything
that you've done for us and allthe listeners that have listened
to the podcast and downloaded.
Thank you for subscribing.
So we thank you.
We hope you have a great newyear.
Don't blow your fingers up anddon't do anything crazy.

(01:22:05):
You know some people like to dofireworks, so it's not legal
here in Seattle, up and don't doanything crazy.
You know some people like to dofireworks, so it's not legal
here in Seattle.
So if you do be safe out therefrom the Pacific Northwest.
I'd like to thank all of ourguests for my entire team, mark
Christopher, sophia Magana andmyself.
Mario Magana, be sure to lookup at the sky, because you never
know what you might see.

(01:22:25):
Goodnight to look up at the sky, because you never know what
you might see.
Good night.

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