June 10, 2025 • 56 mins
We explore the biggest conspiracy theories of all time and investigate whether the public feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump is genuine conflict or a strategic distraction from more significant developments.
• The Trump-Musk feud may be a scripted distraction while other government activities happen in the shadows
• JFK assassination files reveal limited new information about who was behind the president's death
• Moon landing conspiracy theories persist due to technological limitations and lack of return missions
• UFO incidents at Roswell and the Pacific Northwest coincide with rapid technology acceleration
• Denver International Airport contains suspected Illuminati symbols and hidden underground facilities
• COVID-19 conspiracy theories linking the virus to 5G networks gained traction during the pandemic
• "Birds Aren't Real" conspiracy demonstrates how social media spreads misinformation
• Social media platforms function as addictive psychological experiments with harmful effects
• Supporting local businesses in small towns helps communities thrive beyond conspiracy theories
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to US Phenomenon, where possibilities
are endless.
Put down those same oldheadlines.
It's time to expand your mindand question what if?
From paranormal activity toUFOs, bigfoot sightings and
unsolved mysteries, this is USPhenomenon?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
From the Pacific Northwest in the shadow of the
1962 World's Fair, the SpaceNeedle.
Good evening, good morning,good afternoon.
Wherever you are on God's greenearth, this is US Phenomenon
and I am your host, mario Magana.
Tonight we will uncover and gointo the 10 greatest
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conspiracies of all time.
Tonight we will cover these andwe'll kind of break them down a
little bit.
Plus, we're going to chat alittle bit about the distraction
, what I believe is adistraction right now, and what
is really going on.
Why, as we know in past daysand weeks, now that there was a
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spat between Donald Trump Idon't even want to say it, I
would say Donald Trump's reallynot fighting back or like poking
back.
I would say that Elon hasthrown some really big haymakers
out there to get people'sattention, makers out there to
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get people's attention.
Now is this one of those wwemoments where it's like scripted
.
Are we seeing something that isscripted and that they want us
to be distracted by that spatwhen other things are going on?
Because that's how I look at itis what's the real distraction
here?
What is the government reallydoing?
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Is there a shadow governmentmoving right now?
Is there things going intoplace?
I mean we know in past days andwhatnot in week, that there
have been things that have beengoing on, but it's all been in
the headlines.
It's the, it's the other stuffthat we aren't seeing that we
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should be looking for.
And and when you talk aboutthis spat, it really is just.
You know, and for those who maynot know, that you know elon
has thrown some haymakers.
Allegedly um lee Donald Trumpwas in the Epstein files and
that's why it's not released.
I don't think that's the case.
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I don't.
The reason why the files aren'treleased is that the United
States as a country isn't readyfor what is behind those
documents and how many powerfulpeople are in those documents,
and that's why it's not beenreleased.
This country would be inshambles.
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I believe that if the allegedmanuscript or list, manifest
list was released, people wouldlose their mind.
But it doesn't mean thatthey're tied to epstein, or
maybe it is.
I mean there is video ofyounger president donald trump
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hanging out with epstein duringa taping of a network tv show of
some sort, but it was at aparty.
I mean it wasn't.
It was at a party that wasn'ton the Island.
So there are going to be, youknow, and that one, I believe,
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was in the early late nineties,I'm not sure, somewhere in that,
but still you see a youngerpresident, soon to be president,
or you see a younger DonaldTrump hanging out with Epstein,
but that doesn't mean that he'stied to you.
Know Epstein in that type ofway why?
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You see someone who I think isthrowing a huge tantrum, who is
very wealthy and is normallyused to getting his way, has now
been pushed out by the innercircle and you just see someone
throwing haymakers out there,throwing bombs to see if they
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stick.
And I mean, everyone loves agood catfight and everyone loves
a good.
But I love how the president'slike hey, look, and even JD
Vance has said the same thing ina recent podcast Like, look,
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you know, I hope that he getshis stuff together.
And now reports are coming outthat he probably wasn't in the
right mind frame, you know, andand that could be the case too
you know working as many hoursas he possibly was.
And, um, you're not seeingsomeone maybe who, like the
president of the United States,who has the endurance, who, even
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as a businessman, has alwaysbeen in that space where he
sticks to his regimen, who knows, when you have someone like
Elon Musk trying to run multiplebusinesses and trying to look
through the federal governmentwork with individuals, it's a
tough task.
It's a tall task to uphold Nowthe shade that he's throwing out
there.
You know, you see that you seehim throwing these haymakers,
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and even Donald Trump's like heyman, you know, I don't think
that you're going to see elonback in the inner circle anytime
soon and I I kind of feel likewe're seeing like stuff being
kind of slowly pushed away.
And you know you're, you'reseeing that as we all have made
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those and maybe not everyone,because not everyone's on social
media have made those socialmedia posts where we regret them
and then later delete them.
I mean it really shows signs ofa, a grown adult with a lot of
power and a lot of moneythrowing a tantrum Must.
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That is.
And he's not going to winagainst the president.
You know, and there are reportsout there that the president
stated hey, if you go against us, you know you will pay, and I
believe it.
I mean the president is goingto make sure us you know you
will pay and I believe it.
I mean the president is goingto make sure that you know.
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If that's what you're going totry to do.
You know I think it was in aheadline Trump says Musk will
face serious consequences if hefunds Democrats.
So that's interesting.
That's a huge, huge thing.
So I believe that the presidentand the inner circle are
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definitely taking the high roadin regards to what they're
putting out there.
Very strategic, I believe thatElon Musk is a grown child
throwing of tantrum.
So hopefully this will be andmaybe this is not even a real
thing and maybe it is adistraction.
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You know what is really goingon out there.
That's.
Every time something like thishappens I'm like what's the
distraction?
Like what's going on?
Why?
Why, you know?
Or could it just be just that,um, a grown man throwing a big,
big, big big tantrum?
If you'd like to weigh in, youcan send your text 775-990-5151.
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Let's go to the text line andsee what's out there.
Hey, mario Mario Frank, herefrom Ocean Shores, where the
waves roll in but thedistractions never stop.
This whole Elon versus Trumpshowdown feels like smoke and
mirrors as well as orchestratedspectacle to keep people fixated
on the drama instead of thereal power moves happening
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behind the scenes.
I have to agree with you onthat piece While everyone's busy
debating egos, what's slippingthrough the cracks?
Policies, financial shifts,deeper global agendas.
Maybe in time we will stopwatching the distraction and
start following the money.
Keep digging, mario, becausesomebody has to let me know what
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you find.
Uh, thanks, frank's from oceanshores.
Yeah, it will be interesting.
And I have to say that socialmedia there's definitely a lot
of stuff out there that ismisinformation.
You really got to dig throughsome of the stuff, man.
I really wish that you know,and we should have him back on
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here soon.
Just the take of what WilliamCooper would say, and I'm 100%
that he would say that this is ahuge distraction.
Uh, let's continue.
Going to the text line.
Um, hey, mario, it's hollytuning in from victoria bc.
I'm assuming you're listeningto us on our flagship station,
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kvi.
Uh, thanks, holly for uhlistening to us.
Uh, here in.
Uh from victoria.
That's awesome.
Everyone's caught up on thespectacle.
But let's be real, elon playingthe long game here, it's not
just about winning the argument,it's about the influence, the
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control, the positioning himselfas an ultimate power broker.
Ooh very good.
Take on this as an ultimatepower broker.
Ooh, very good.
Take on this.
Whether political, tech orglobal market, he's making moves
that goes way beyond this.
So-called feud People thinkit's about ego, but it's about
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leverage.
Keep pulling the threads, mario.
Something bigger is unraveling.
Thank you, holly.
Uh, great text messages.
Thanks for uh chiming in there.
If you'd like to send your textmessage or you have a show idea
, send them to me.
Uh, 775-990-5151.
(10:40):
I get each and every one ofthose text messages.
You know, as we get ready totalk about the biggest
conspiracies of all time.
Think about this.
I mean, when you think ofconspiracies and whatnot you
think of like there's a ton ofthem, but we're going to break
them down.
Obviously, everyone.
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My favorite one is probably thejfk assassination.
With the recent uh in recentmonths, with the release of more
files of the jfk assassinationand really to me it doesn't say
who did it, but what was goingon, what was transpiring during
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those time periods.
Clearly the CIA was in heavyoperations with the Cuban doing
the whole Cuban Bay of Pigsstuff.
So you don't really see moreinformation, you're just getting
more.
I don't want to.
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It is information, but to me itfeels diluted, like it's not
getting to the meat and potatoesof the conspiracy.
Why did Jack Ruby kill LeeHarvey Oswald?
Now, if we were just to breakthis down and say there is no
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conspiracy, that Lee HarveyOswald acted alone, shot the
president of the United States,lee Harvey Oswald then was
arrested, then was beingtransported and then was gunned
down by mobster Jack Ruby.
And why was Jack Ruby in thatarea at that same time?
And why was Jack Ruby in thatarea at that same time?
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You know, we knew that he hadconnections with the police
agencies because of him owningthese nightclubs, them coming
there, so he was familiar withthose individuals giving him
access to the area where LeeHarvey Oswald was being
transported and then him beingshot.
The minute he was shot, gunneddown and died, that's when the
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that's when conspiracy justramped to.
You know, you know like tenfold.
So at that point everyone's likeoh yeah, this is, this is an
inside job, what, what's going?
What's really going on?
And if for, for example, ifsomeone from the inside want to
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get rid of, wanted to get rid ofthe president of the united
states, they would have donethat.
I just don't think that it wasan inside job.
But could it have been if youwere to point the fingers back
at anyone, if you looked at thisbig scope of what had happened
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and what transpired was the mobupset with president Kennedy and
his brother Because his brotherwas the acting attorney general
and then was going after themob, where the mob had placed a
lot of money into this campaignfor the two to be elected.
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So the mob looking for thatinfluential piece to say, hey,
you scratch our backs, wescratch yours.
Or simply was this just that Aderanged lunatic who had served
the country had gone astray,shot, gunned down and
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assassinated a president, asitting president assassinated a
president, a sitting president,from a perch at the book uh,
book depository in dallas, texas.
Just an unfortunate situation.
And you probably will never seea motorcade where the
president's sitting there as ayou know sitting, you know kind
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of as target practice.
You won't see that and all theprecautions are taken nowadays
to protect the president so thathe's not put in harm's way in
any shape, you know nowadays.
So that's, I really believethat we just we're not seeing
enough information coming outfrom these re-released files.
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So that being very disappointing, they were like man, there's no
good, as the kids would say,there's no good tea in that.
There's no good gossip inregards, or good information in
regards to that, as we continuesharing the top conspiracies of
all time.
What's yours?
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775-990-5151.
We'll get to the text line withyour favorite conspiracies of
all time, the moon landing beingan interesting one to me.
There are so muchmisinformation now that is
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available on all socialplatforms, at least the, the
heavy hitters.
Right now.
You're not seeing that so muchon like a instagram or, um, like
a facebook, but you're well youmight, but you're seeing more
of this on the tiktok and ifyou're doom scrolling on a
tiktok I, you're definitelyseeing some of that and there
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were a lot of individuals thatwould have to have been a part
to do this moon landing hoax,the Apollo 11 mission.
You're talking about all theground crew that had to be a
part of that to to make surethat every, each and every one
of those individuals who sat ata position at at the space
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center in nasa, who are eitherengineers, technicians everyone
moving to you know their littlepiece of the cog to make this
work.
If that is the case, the theydid a damn good job.
Um, if you're, if you're, abeliever of the moon landing
being a hoax, that that's fine.
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It's just, I look at it thisway and this is why this
conspiracy really seems to behad pulled a lot of traction
from it.
Look, we haven't gone back tothe moon, so there's a whole
couple generations ofindividuals, there's a full, you
know, generation and a halfthat are like we went to the
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moon with self, with powers.
Let you know, your iphone andyour, your cell phone have more
power than you know.
The, the lunar landing uhmodule, uh, had in its you know
capsule is.
You look back and you're like,wow, how did we do that?
And everything was very muchscience-based and how they
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approached it and how they gotthere.
Right, look, no one else isgoing to the moon.
The only reason why we went tothe moon was because we were
getting spanked in this spacewar by russia and, and that was
not going to happen, the unitedstates was like we need to go to
the moon, we need to go to themoon and, and so that was the
tall task.
They got there and nobody's noone's gone back, and I believe
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it's because it's not in theinterest of these other foreign
entities to get there.
It is they're working on otherentities to either go to Mars or
to do other things that may notbe in the best interest of the
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United States.
So I believe that that's whyyou see that conspiracy taking
off on levels that were just youknow.
You're like, oh, yeah, I meanyeah, they could have filmed
that in a back lot somewhere,you know, um, I don't think that
would be the case.
Maybe there were um simulationsso that they could pretend like
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they were landing on the moonwhen they got there, but I I
don't.
I find it really hard tobelieve that you got that many
individuals to, to, to be quiet.
You know the participantsduring who worked at nasa and
maybe, maybe that may be thecase, but I mean, we're talking
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hundreds of individuals that hadto lie to their families.
It's not like they were signingNDAs back then, or maybe they
were and we just don't know.
You know, was that a thing youknow, like back in the day when
Reagan talked about the StarWars situation where we were
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going to build this thing?
Was that the same case here,where the government was like we
need a full and let's do somemassive marketing to say that we
went to the moon and and let'sorchestrate this and and collabo
with nasa to um, do acollaboration with nasa to to
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achieve this goal, to land onthem, pretend like we landed on
the moon.
I don't know.
I just don't see that as athing all right.
Uh, as we continue movingthrough these conspiracies, I
think one that really throws meoff is it's probably when we
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start talking about some of theother conspiracies that seem to
have happened, like the.
Oh, the Roswell UFO crash isone too.
But you know what's interestingto me about the Roswell UFO
crash and the Maury Islandincident, here, off of Maury
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Island, which is next to VashonNow, that one doesn't get talked
about as much unless you'refrom the Pacific Northwest, an
enthusiast of UFOs, or UAPs asthey call them now, and this is
why you see me always say thatthe Pacific Northwest is the
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home of the most paranormalactivity or another entity to
you know, maybe McDonnellDouglas or one of the other
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manufacturers to build these,you know, spaceships or unmanned
we'll call them developmentalprojects, dark projects,
developmental projects, darkprojects.
And this is why there was anincident by Roswell and here
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near, or the incident on MauryIsland.
And what's interesting, when wetalk about those two pieces,
you know you have the UFOsightings prior to the Roswell
incident.
We're talking about theincident that happened near
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Mount Rainier, when KennethArnold saw and reported the UFOs
as flying saucers from hisviewpoint near Mount Rainier.
Now, then, in later weeks,there was the Maury Island
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incident, which then triggered JEdgar Hoover to send these
gentlemen with glasses and blacksuits to the area, this
nicknaming them the Men in Black.
So, and then after thatincident and I believe it's
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within weeks, they're very closetogether was the Roswell crash.
Now, if these extraterrestrialswere coming to Earth during that
time period, where were theycoming from?
And the technology if that wasthe case, of them having this
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crash site with them, findingadvanced technology, the bodies
of these individuals?
Did the United States work withthese extraterrestrials to
either retrieve the bodies ofthese ets to give them back to
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their, to their, their you knowcounterparts, and what
technology did we learn and gainfrom this?
It's very interesting to me onhow advanced we have become as a
nation and as a world becauseof this technology.
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Now, during the 1947s, duringthe Cold War days, we weren't
sharing much with anybody, right, it was all about what was in
it for us.
But for our protection as acountry, a country, we weren't
sharing this information withothers.
Heck, no so.
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Were they lending and givingthe same technology to other
countries, or were we the onlyones who were able to grab such
information, reverse, engineerand make some of the most
advanced stealth, liketechnologies, with the advanced
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composites that are availablenow, that were designed back in
those days?
Think about that.
How fast we really, from the1900s up to 47, plus then from
47 up to now, on what thetechnology has really just moved
at a rapid pace and now thatmost of our cell phones have
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more power than the spaceshuttle did back in the day,
it's amazing on how that worksand how fast we rapidly had
grown as a society, as a species, very intriguing to me.
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So I would say that, the moonlanding being a hoax, the JFK
assassination, we didn't talkabout this one.
We were talking about theRoswell crash, where everyone I
mean you think about it, youhave an area that is blocked off
and we'll go back to the otherconspiracies the 9-11, we'll get
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into that shortly.
But the Roswell UFO crash, whenyou talk about where you have
an area in Roswell that is wherethe crash has taken place, and
then this stuff has beentransported to an area called
Area 51.
And, for sure, when you blockoff an area that no one can go
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to and it's very secret, I meanit is it just smells and reeks
of conspiracy.
Baby, you just think about it.
You're like, hmm, what's reallybehind the curtain there?
And it could be, and it couldjust be an area.
That is what we would call aplace for test beds, for secret
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military ops planes, unmanneddrones, things of that nature,
and this might be the test bedfor that.
We just don't know, becausewe'll never know what's behind
the curtains at area 51.
But I believe that if this isthe case, where the ufo crash at
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roswell, did they really land?
Didn't?
Did aliens really land here,and did they take those bodies
and that flying saucers, ufos,uap to Area 51 to reverse
engineer what they had found?
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Because think about it, if wecould reverse engineer all that
stuff, the possibilities oftechnology and advancements,
leaps and bounds of what we weredoing back in the 1940s on
tremendous levels.
And and so I think one of theconspiracies that has been uh, I
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don't want to say gainingtraction, but gaining momentum
in recent days has been the 9-11conspiracy of being an inside
job.
What really happened, as weknow, what happened on that
faithful day during 9-11, butpeople coming back right now on
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social media platforms onmultiple levels are are sharing
their thoughts about being aninside job.
Now, man, that would bedevastating on on multiple
levels if this is the case now.
Now there are some conspiraciesthat I'm like pretty skeptic
about, and others I try not tobe, and this might be one of
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those where I kind of leave itto the individual you can
believe what you want to believe, but it's tough.
I mean, we all know that.
You know thousands of peopledied.
You know men and women who wererescue first responders that
passed away on that tragic day,on 9-11.
It just was a no-win situation.
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But the you know, make nomistake if.
If that was the case, um, thisbeing inside job, I think that
if it was, I mean, you're goingto find out very shortly, soon,
you will find out that this wasnot that.
If it was an inside job,believe me, the administration
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will release that information.
They're not going to hold back.
I promise you that, not thisadministration.
All right, this administrationwill not hold back on something
like that.
This administration will nothold back on something like that
.
And I know where everyone istalking about in these different
conspiracies about how thebuildings came down.
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Look, I'm no structuralengineer and I'm not going to
pretend to be one, but what Isaw that day was tragic.
It did look like it was animplosion, but I I believe that
the weight and structure hadfailed itself and that's why you
just saw windows being poppedout and just the stress.
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The things that we saw with ourown eyes were were tragic
people.
You know, having to make adecision on either staying in
the building or having to jumpout the window for rescue oh
that's terrible.
And you know we have, in pastshows have had guests who have
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come on to share their firsteyewitness encounters and how
tragic that day was, and thatthey have been a part of the
9-11 trials and what they sawthat day will live in their
minds forever.
You can't unpaint what you sawthat day, including if it was on
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TV, and there is a ton of stuffthat is being released right
now about this being some typeof inside job, a new documentary
about another plane.
Where do those people go?
It's just, it is a very tragicsituation, obviously 9-11 not
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being something, um, that we allsaw coming.
You know we did.
It was the modern day pearlharbor.
For those who were not aroundfor that, that's what that is.
It felt like a very much amodern day pearl harbor.
You know we always say pre-9-11,post-9-11.
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You know, remember going to theairport and seeing your loved
ones off to their plane andwalking them to their gate ramp,
you know, maybe going throughsecurity checkpoint and then you
walk back.
Those days, you know, areclearly long gone because we're
talking you know that was such along time ago Is the government
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holding secrets back?
Everyone loves this conspiracyand this is one that we'll talk
about here shortly.
We'll talk about the RutilianBirds aren't real, we'll talk
about that as well.
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But the one that kind of sparksmy interest is the Denver
Airport being a hidden symbolfor the underground Illuminati.
Now, if you're a hugeconspiracy theorist and you
don't believe and you alwaysquestion everything, and this
one throws me off and I wouldsay that the Denver Airport,
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international Airport, to me, ifit's you know's what they say
it is being, on multiple levels,a hidden symbol for the
Illuminati, the Masons.
You see a lot of things thatwould portray this.
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These emblems hidden all overthe airport Kind of freak people
out.
And why would there beunderground bunkers?
Is there a city that livesunderneath the city?
Is there a secret societyrunning things underneath this
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airport?
Why would the airport needhidden tunnels?
Are the hidden tunnels toefficiently run things, to get
baggages across places?
Is it so that workers cancommute and not be on the tarmac
?
I mean, these are things thataren't talked about and why
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people are very suspicious about.
And these tunnels, you know, areunderneath and obviously
there's trains running throughsome of these to get the, you
know, to get people to and fromareas, but behind those trains
are, you know, automatic,automatic baggage systems.
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But, of course, this is whypeople think that there are, you
know, bunkers, secret bunkersthat are down there, and could
this be, could it contain theilluminati's headquarters, in
addition to you know, some ofthe dna, uh, just some of the
stuff that is going around andand why people think that this
is a place of conspiracy.
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You know, the giant horse forthose who may have not been out,
there is a node to the fourhorsemen in the uh apocalypse.
Uh, the mustang that's at theuh airport, the blue one with
the red eye, um, was a sculpture.
Uh, some of the artwork alsohas provided clues about the end
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of the world, which isinteresting to me, and why this
would be.
Uh, why would they have this atan airport?
You know, why would they putthese?
What?
You know, what was the conceptbehind that and why were they so
fixated on end times?
If that's the case, you know,with these murals and whatnot,
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so, um, always a fun conspiracyto to look at and to talk about,
because, with there being somuch out there, you know you
start to see these things, youstart to look.
If you're in the Denver airportnext time, let me know what you
think.
Tell me, I have not been to theDenver airport for so much time
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nor did I pay attention to whatwas going on.
When I was there.
I just went to my destination.
I think is really what happened, okay.
Uh, let's keep things movingalong.
Um, now this one's interestingto me the do you?
For those that think or believethat the pandemic was engineered
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, there had been conspiraciesgoing around during the pandemic
the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic thatthis was something that was a
COVID-19 plus a 5G push, aCOVID-19 plus a 5G push.
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There were a lot of individualsthat believed that there was
this huge thing, that and duringthe time, there was a phobia
about the 5G piece.
Those of us who weren'teducated started to believe the
theories by tens of thousands,uh, that were being established
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of this um conspiracy, of thecorrelation of this virus and 5g
to distribute, for distributionof it or to activate said virus
.
Having the density of these 5Gtowers suggested there's a
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casual relationship, them, andthen the theory promoting by
those that were distributingthis misinformation about the
virus.
Um, look, believe what you wantto believe.
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I just didn't see that 5G andCOVID were two things that were
tied together.
But, yes, there was thatconspiracy, but there was also
the conspiracy of COVID-19 andit being manufactured in Wuhan,
things of that nature.
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Now believe what you want tobelieve.
I will say that there were alot of people that died from the
pandemic with this virus andman.
Those were some rough times.
It was just not fun at all,scary to see thousands of people
(38:37):
.
Just interesting too, to besomeone who had been working
during the pandemic, where a lotof people were working from
home.
That wasn't really the case fora small portion of us who had
either been working for anentity like media, uh, or the
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backbone for media, broadcastengineers, things of that nature
.
We still went in, we were, wewere protected by either wearing
masks, but we weren't.
It was just like one of thosesituations where you went to
work, you came home, it was verystrange uh times.
I mean we, we all right, I mean, the roads were empty back in
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those days.
It was like a ghost town, Imean, and that wasn't that long
ago was a different time forsure.
Just very interesting, veryeerie.
You know, as as if you've neverread the book, behold the pale
horse.
You, you read some of thesethings that are in there, um, of
what william cooper wrote about.
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You know, different times, whythese entities were built.
You know what powers that theyhad um why the interstate roads
were in, you know, wereconnected, it just just a
different time.
And boy it did sure feel likewe were in end times.
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And hey, let's just be honest,if COVID-19 was a real thing and
the and the planet was reallyupset with us.
Man, the planet was very upsetwith us and said you know what
we need to humble theseindividuals, to wipe them off
either completely gone andextinct the human race, or
quickly, as a species, wequickly adapted to fix a virus
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that was rapidly taking overindividuals' lives and
unfortunately, many people haddied from COVID.
Very, very tough times duringthat pandemic and I didn't
really see so much of the 5Gpiece on the social or the
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booming of TikTok.
I didn't really see that one init.
It just has been within thelast um, I think after post, uh,
you know the pandemic where thedifferent variants where this,
uh, this conspiracy had takenplace.
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Now Getting back to thesedifferent conspiracies.
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I've heard this one, but what'sinteresting to me is, you know,
what you didn't see is that inrecent days, one of the biggest
conspiracies that has beenreally posting up is birds
aren't real, they're strategicand they are a part of
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government surveillance.
So those that are out therethat believe that these are like
tactical surveillance pieceswe're talking like like where
are they going, these pigeons?
Uh, these birds.
How interesting would that beif these birds were, um, not
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real?
Now, if you ask me, you don't.
Really you didn't, and I thinkthe conspiracy really took off
was that you didn't really see alot of pigeons out during that
time frame, but you didn't see alot of humans either, and
that's what makes thisconspiracy take flight.
Why would individuals besubscribing to this theory of
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the birds not being real?
I mean, there have been pigeonsthat have been found dead on
streets or hit by vehicles.
I just this one threw me off,this one threw me for a loop,
not because I don't believe it,I just I didn't really see it.
And I think it's just becauseyou know that during that time,
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none of us saw that.
And, of course, you know whatpeople are saying that the birds
aren't real.
They're actually.
You know, governmentsurveillance drones is what they
would say which you know arekeeping an eye on us individuals
.
An eye on us individuals.
Certainly, this conspiracy hastaken traction because of social
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media, but this is what we callmisinformation Trending,
because of the misinformationcoming from these different
social media entities and ayounger generation, uh, being
(44:44):
skeptical towards this type ofinformation.
Even, you know, even us at anolder, when we start to see this
stuff multiple times, you'relike, oh, this has got to be
real.
You know, I mean, for example,my aging, you know dad will sit
(45:07):
and scroll on social and listento these videos.
That's not real news and listento these videos.
That's not real news.
There might be news agenciesthat are reporting, but those
are far and few in between allthe other misinformation or
information that is beingdisseminated on these social
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platforms.
You want a good conspiracy.
I believe that social media isa social experiment on the human
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race the endorphins.
This is like the new cigarettesof of of addiction.
Think of how much time peoplespend doom scrolling or what
they call doom scrolling forthose who don't do this where
they just sit on for hours onend just looking through their
social media pages and lookingto see what's out there and you
(46:12):
get high off of that.
You get a fix, just like youtake that drag from a cigarette
Posting and having people likeyour comments and things of that
nature.
It feels good.
You get this euphoric high andthen you want another hit.
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They know that these reportshave come out on why they were
hushing, why they didn't wantyounger, why they did not want
individuals to know that it wasnot good for the younger kids
and the developmental piece ofthe brain.
If you have kids, please,please, please, keep them off
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social media, not because of theaddiction piece, and let their
brains grow.
And it's hard.
I mean we've done a pretty goodjob on raising our daughter,
who now has some social mediaplatform, but not all of them.
It is difficult, you know, whenyou're navigating in a modern
(47:18):
world where you have this littlephone that has the availability
to connect to anything.
But for those of us who havegrown up without them, to have
that peace, they're going to bethe generation that grew up with
them.
We can grow up, and we grew upwithout them and then having
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them and then learning to usethese social media platforms,
from MySpace online toeventually having these entities
on our phone, at our fingertips, I mean in our palm of our
hands.
I mean because we really stillhad them at our fingertips, I
mean in our palm of our hands.
I mean because we really stillhad them at our fingertips when
we're sitting here at ourcomputers looking through our
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Facebook pages and thesedifferent bulletin boards and
things of that nature.
It was definitely different.
So I always recommend, from mypoint of view, if you have kids
or grandkids, go get the kidsoutside.
I mean it's beautiful,weather's been fantastic, it's
summertime.
Kids are mostly out of schoolnow.
If they're not, they're almostdone, just enjoy, go, take, take
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them for a drive on the weekendand interact and do something
fun.
I mean, life's too short.
Clearly you can't go to a lot ofour national parks at this
point in time, and not becauseof um, these are all all natural
, uh reasons that you can't goto the, to the some of the
national parks you can go to.
But if you're trying to go to,like mount rainier, you're
definitely you're gonna have to,you know, do your research on
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that.
And same with mount st helens.
You cannot get to mount sthelens and johnson's observatory
Observatory due to the roadbeing gone, which is super
unfortunate.
What a beautiful drive.
If you ever get to do it, youcan also drive the backside and
go to Ape Cave and you can gothe backside of Mount St Helens
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and be a part of that piecewhere you can go to Ape Cave and
kind of drive along thoseroutes.
But remember when you're outthere.
You're in Bigfoot country, soyou know the rules.
You're not supposed to shootthem and you're not even
supposed to harass them if youdo see them.
I guess that's a law here tooas well.
I did not know that.
I think I've seen that inrecent days.
Now, do you believe that any ofthese conspiracies are real?
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You know, send me a text, letme know.
I know we're getting close toending things here from the
pacific northwest, but uh, our,you know time getting close to
the end here and and I I guessone of the latest conspiracies
is the dead internet theory.
Is AI controlling the onlinecontent?
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Now, do you believe that?
Are you able to find what youneed?
Are you finding what isavailable to you?
Are you looking?
Have you had that opportunityto search for something and you
didn't find it?
Do you feel like AI iscontrolling that?
This is a new conspiracy to me.
I mean, I've gone and searchedon AI stuff but I haven't found
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anything to be that I was like,oh yeah, I haven't really spent
that much time and I don't thinka lot of us are sitting at a
computer looking and using them.
I think most of us are on ourphones.
Do you feel like you're feelinglike the government is
controlling or AI is controllingwhat's being pushed out there
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as a narrative?
Do you feel like you're beingcontrolled right now?
And for some of us right now,or for some of you out there,
maybe you feel like that.
Maybe you feel like we are inend times.
Are you prepared?
Do you have everything you need?
Do you feel like we're aprosperous country?
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Do you feel like that we're ina disarray?
Do you feel like we're in asimulation?
What do you feel?
Are you like me, who isenjoying every day Now, every
day that I have to just enjoywhat's out here, what's
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available, the fresh air.
Maybe it's not fresh for all ofus, but that ocean air if you're
down there at ocean shores,maybe that, maybe if you're
taking a drive up to clee ellumor, uh, you're in duval for
duval days that just recentlyhappened that that pine, that
smell of the woods god, I lovethat smell.
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I mean you just can't getenough of it.
That fresh air smell, the oceanmist If you're over there by
the ocean, or if you're by thelake, the chirping of the birds
listening to the wind howlthrough the trees and the leaves
Something special about thatthis time of year.
So if you have an opportunityto go somewhere, go do it.
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If you can get up to hurricaneridge fantastic place to go and
spend your money.
Go spend your money in some ofthese local establishments in
port angeles some great stuff.
Go see.
Go see tom seawood out there atthe bigfoot museum over there.
Go over there and check him out.
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Go hang out and see what he'sgot cooking on.
Go get yourself a t-shirt.
Go see your buddy over there.
Maybe you're out in Orting,you're heading towards Mount
Rainier.
You can't really go there, butmaybe you're going to go and do
a, maybe you're going to drivethe backside or something like
that.
Go to one of these small towns.
Go eat in these small towns.
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Go get a burger from a smalltown, ordin.
There's some great stuff outthere.
People need it, people love it.
Go support these localbusinesses that are out here.
They're time to shine, becauseduring the winter times it's
gloomy.
You've got those doom and gloomdays and, hey, if you're
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heading up to leavenworth, thatdrive on highway 2.
Now here's a little secret thatI'm going to pass along to you.
There's a bakery in saltoncalled the salton bakery, and
they pay me nothing for this.
But if you're looking for thebest breakfast sandwich,
homemade breakfast sandwich, Ikid you not, and I'm going to
(53:42):
blow this up, they have the bestbreakfast sandwich made on
fresh white bread.
Now, the key is, the breakfastsandwich is just a breakfast
sandwich, but because it's madeon fresh, fresh white bread, it
is fantastic.
I kid you not.
Stop, get yourself a breakfastsandwich and it gives me that,
(54:06):
maybe that nostalgic breakfast,old school breakfast sandwich
that your mom or your pa wouldmake back in the day, on the
bread and they don't toast it,it's white.
You can have it toasted, but Idon't.
Let me tell you, this breakfastsandwich is chef's kiss, one of
the best sandwiches I've everhad.
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Okay.
So if you're heading that way,there's a spot there.
And I guess now as you head upto Leavenworth, if you're
driving on Highway 2, you seethat big statue of Bigfoot.
I guess there's now commercethere and there's the diner.
If you continue going almost upto the Wenatchee Lake Wenatchee
(54:47):
, there's that diner.
That's on the right-hand sidebefore you take the left into
the campgrounds of LakeWenatchee.
Up there, just go spend somemoney in these diners and some
of these establishments, even ifyou just stop by to stretch
your legs.
Because I mean, really, let'sbe honest, are you in a rush to
get to Leavenworth?
I mean you could be, because abrat and a beer would sound
(55:08):
really nice right about now, ormaybe you're driving home,
whatever the case may be, butdefinitely stop at those spots,
hit those commerce.
Even when you're on your wayout of Leavenworth there's
always that one.
As you're leaving, there's likea quick spot to grab like a
little commerce, a grocery storeor something like that.
Stop there.
Spend your money.
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Tonight we will uncover and gointo the 10 greatest
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conspiracies of all time.
Tonight we will cover these andwe'll kind of break them down a
little bit.
Plus, we're going to chat alittle bit about the distraction
, what I believe is adistraction right now, and what
is really going on.
Why, as we know in past daysand weeks, now that there was a
(01:05):
spat between Donald Trump Idon't even want to say it, I
would say Donald Trump's reallynot fighting back or like poking
back.
I would say that Elon hasthrown some really big haymakers
out there to get people'sattention, makers out there to
(01:28):
get people's attention.
Now is this one of those wwemoments where it's like scripted
.
Are we seeing something that isscripted and that they want us
to be distracted by that spatwhen other things are going on?
Because that's how I look at itis what's the real distraction
here?
What is the government reallydoing?
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Is there a shadow governmentmoving right now?
Is there things going intoplace?
I mean we know in past days andwhatnot in week, that there
have been things that have beengoing on, but it's all been in
the headlines.
It's the, it's the other stuffthat we aren't seeing that we
(02:09):
should be looking for.
And and when you talk aboutthis spat, it really is just.
You know, and for those who maynot know, that you know elon
has thrown some haymakers.
Allegedly um lee Donald Trumpwas in the Epstein files and
that's why it's not released.
I don't think that's the case.
(02:32):
I don't.
The reason why the files aren'treleased is that the United
States as a country isn't readyfor what is behind those
documents and how many powerfulpeople are in those documents,
and that's why it's not beenreleased.
This country would be inshambles.
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I believe that if the allegedmanuscript or list, manifest
list was released, people wouldlose their mind.
But it doesn't mean thatthey're tied to epstein, or
maybe it is.
I mean there is video ofyounger president donald trump
(03:16):
hanging out with epstein duringa taping of a network tv show of
some sort, but it was at aparty.
I mean it wasn't.
It was at a party that wasn'ton the Island.
So there are going to be, youknow, and that one, I believe,
(03:37):
was in the early late nineties,I'm not sure, somewhere in that,
but still you see a youngerpresident, soon to be president,
or you see a younger DonaldTrump hanging out with Epstein,
but that doesn't mean that he'stied to you.
Know Epstein in that type ofway why?
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You see someone who I think isthrowing a huge tantrum, who is
very wealthy and is normallyused to getting his way, has now
been pushed out by the innercircle and you just see someone
throwing haymakers out there,throwing bombs to see if they
(04:22):
stick.
And I mean, everyone loves agood catfight and everyone loves
a good.
But I love how the president'slike hey, look, and even JD
Vance has said the same thing ina recent podcast Like, look,
(04:43):
you know, I hope that he getshis stuff together.
And now reports are coming outthat he probably wasn't in the
right mind frame, you know, andand that could be the case too
you know working as many hoursas he possibly was.
And, um, you're not seeingsomeone maybe who, like the
president of the United States,who has the endurance, who, even
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as a businessman, has alwaysbeen in that space where he
sticks to his regimen, who knows, when you have someone like
Elon Musk trying to run multiplebusinesses and trying to look
through the federal governmentwork with individuals, it's a
tough task.
It's a tall task to uphold Nowthe shade that he's throwing out
there.
You know, you see that you seehim throwing these haymakers,
(05:39):
and even Donald Trump's like heyman, you know, I don't think
that you're going to see elonback in the inner circle anytime
soon and I I kind of feel likewe're seeing like stuff being
kind of slowly pushed away.
And you know you're, you'reseeing that as we all have made
(06:06):
those and maybe not everyone,because not everyone's on social
media have made those socialmedia posts where we regret them
and then later delete them.
I mean it really shows signs ofa, a grown adult with a lot of
power and a lot of moneythrowing a tantrum Must.
(06:27):
That is.
And he's not going to winagainst the president.
You know, and there are reportsout there that the president
stated hey, if you go against us, you know you will pay, and I
believe it.
I mean the president is goingto make sure us you know you
will pay and I believe it.
I mean the president is goingto make sure that you know.
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If that's what you're going totry to do.
You know I think it was in aheadline Trump says Musk will
face serious consequences if hefunds Democrats.
So that's interesting.
That's a huge, huge thing.
So I believe that the presidentand the inner circle are
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definitely taking the high roadin regards to what they're
putting out there.
Very strategic, I believe thatElon Musk is a grown child
throwing of tantrum.
So hopefully this will be andmaybe this is not even a real
thing and maybe it is adistraction.
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You know what is really goingon out there.
That's.
Every time something like thishappens I'm like what's the
distraction?
Like what's going on?
Why?
Why, you know?
Or could it just be just that,um, a grown man throwing a big,
big, big big tantrum?
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Let's go to the text line andsee what's out there.
Hey, mario Mario Frank, herefrom Ocean Shores, where the
waves roll in but thedistractions never stop.
This whole Elon versus Trumpshowdown feels like smoke and
mirrors as well as orchestratedspectacle to keep people fixated
on the drama instead of thereal power moves happening
(08:24):
behind the scenes.
I have to agree with you onthat piece While everyone's busy
debating egos, what's slippingthrough the cracks?
Policies, financial shifts,deeper global agendas.
Maybe in time we will stopwatching the distraction and
start following the money.
Keep digging, mario, becausesomebody has to let me know what
(08:51):
you find.
Uh, thanks, frank's from oceanshores.
Yeah, it will be interesting.
And I have to say that socialmedia there's definitely a lot
of stuff out there that ismisinformation.
You really got to dig throughsome of the stuff, man.
I really wish that you know,and we should have him back on
(09:14):
here soon.
Just the take of what WilliamCooper would say, and I'm 100%
that he would say that this is ahuge distraction.
Uh, let's continue.
Going to the text line.
Um, hey, mario, it's hollytuning in from victoria bc.
I'm assuming you're listeningto us on our flagship station,
(09:35):
kvi.
Uh, thanks, holly for uhlistening to us.
Uh, here in.
Uh from victoria.
That's awesome.
Everyone's caught up on thespectacle.
But let's be real, elon playingthe long game here, it's not
just about winning the argument,it's about the influence, the
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control, the positioning himselfas an ultimate power broker.
Ooh very good.
Take on this as an ultimatepower broker.
Ooh, very good.
Take on this.
Whether political, tech orglobal market, he's making moves
that goes way beyond this.
So-called feud People thinkit's about ego, but it's about
(10:18):
leverage.
Keep pulling the threads, mario.
Something bigger is unraveling.
Thank you, holly.
Uh, great text messages.
Thanks for uh chiming in there.
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, send them to me.
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I get each and every one ofthose text messages.
You know, as we get ready totalk about the biggest
conspiracies of all time.
Think about this.
I mean, when you think ofconspiracies and whatnot you
think of like there's a ton ofthem, but we're going to break
them down.
Obviously, everyone.
(11:02):
My favorite one is probably thejfk assassination.
With the recent uh in recentmonths, with the release of more
files of the jfk assassinationand really to me it doesn't say
who did it, but what was goingon, what was transpiring during
(11:23):
those time periods.
Clearly the CIA was in heavyoperations with the Cuban doing
the whole Cuban Bay of Pigsstuff.
So you don't really see moreinformation, you're just getting
more.
I don't want to.
(11:43):
It is information, but to me itfeels diluted, like it's not
getting to the meat and potatoesof the conspiracy.
Why did Jack Ruby kill LeeHarvey Oswald?
Now, if we were just to breakthis down and say there is no
(12:04):
conspiracy, that Lee HarveyOswald acted alone, shot the
president of the United States,lee Harvey Oswald then was
arrested, then was beingtransported and then was gunned
down by mobster Jack Ruby.
And why was Jack Ruby in thatarea at that same time?
And why was Jack Ruby in thatarea at that same time?
(12:27):
You know, we knew that he hadconnections with the police
agencies because of him owningthese nightclubs, them coming
there, so he was familiar withthose individuals giving him
access to the area where LeeHarvey Oswald was being
transported and then him beingshot.
The minute he was shot, gunneddown and died, that's when the
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that's when conspiracy justramped to.
You know, you know like tenfold.
So at that point everyone's likeoh yeah, this is, this is an
inside job, what, what's going?
What's really going on?
And if for, for example, ifsomeone from the inside want to
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get rid of, wanted to get rid ofthe president of the united
states, they would have donethat.
I just don't think that it wasan inside job.
But could it have been if youwere to point the fingers back
at anyone, if you looked at thisbig scope of what had happened
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and what transpired was the mobupset with president Kennedy and
his brother Because his brotherwas the acting attorney general
and then was going after themob, where the mob had placed a
lot of money into this campaignfor the two to be elected.
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So the mob looking for thatinfluential piece to say, hey,
you scratch our backs, wescratch yours.
Or simply was this just that Aderanged lunatic who had served
the country had gone astray,shot, gunned down and
(14:19):
assassinated a president, asitting president assassinated a
president, a sitting president,from a perch at the book uh,
book depository in dallas, texas.
Just an unfortunate situation.
And you probably will never seea motorcade where the
president's sitting there as ayou know sitting, you know kind
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of as target practice.
You won't see that and all theprecautions are taken nowadays
to protect the president so thathe's not put in harm's way in
any shape, you know nowadays.
So that's, I really believethat we just we're not seeing
enough information coming outfrom these re-released files.
(15:03):
So that being very disappointing, they were like man, there's no
good, as the kids would say,there's no good tea in that.
There's no good gossip inregards, or good information in
regards to that, as we continuesharing the top conspiracies of
all time.
What's yours?
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775-990-5151.
We'll get to the text line withyour favorite conspiracies of
all time, the moon landing beingan interesting one to me.
There are so muchmisinformation now that is
(15:45):
available on all socialplatforms, at least the, the
heavy hitters.
Right now.
You're not seeing that so muchon like a instagram or, um, like
a facebook, but you're well youmight, but you're seeing more
of this on the tiktok and ifyou're doom scrolling on a
tiktok I, you're definitelyseeing some of that and there
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were a lot of individuals thatwould have to have been a part
to do this moon landing hoax,the Apollo 11 mission.
You're talking about all theground crew that had to be a
part of that to to make surethat every, each and every one
of those individuals who sat ata position at at the space
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center in nasa, who are eitherengineers, technicians everyone
moving to you know their littlepiece of the cog to make this
work.
If that is the case, the theydid a damn good job.
Um, if you're, if you're, abeliever of the moon landing
being a hoax, that that's fine.
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It's just, I look at it thisway and this is why this
conspiracy really seems to behad pulled a lot of traction
from it.
Look, we haven't gone back tothe moon, so there's a whole
couple generations ofindividuals, there's a full, you
know, generation and a halfthat are like we went to the
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moon with self, with powers.
Let you know, your iphone andyour, your cell phone have more
power than you know.
The, the lunar landing uhmodule, uh, had in its you know
capsule is.
You look back and you're like,wow, how did we do that?
And everything was very muchscience-based and how they
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approached it and how they gotthere.
Right, look, no one else isgoing to the moon.
The only reason why we went tothe moon was because we were
getting spanked in this spacewar by russia and, and that was
not going to happen, the unitedstates was like we need to go to
the moon, we need to go to themoon and, and so that was the
tall task.
They got there and nobody's noone's gone back, and I believe
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it's because it's not in theinterest of these other foreign
entities to get there.
It is they're working on otherentities to either go to Mars or
to do other things that may notbe in the best interest of the
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United States.
So I believe that that's whyyou see that conspiracy taking
off on levels that were just youknow.
You're like, oh, yeah, I meanyeah, they could have filmed
that in a back lot somewhere,you know, um, I don't think that
would be the case.
Maybe there were um simulationsso that they could pretend like
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they were landing on the moonwhen they got there, but I I
don't.
I find it really hard tobelieve that you got that many
individuals to, to, to be quiet.
You know the participantsduring who worked at nasa and
maybe, maybe that may be thecase, but I mean, we're talking
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hundreds of individuals that hadto lie to their families.
It's not like they were signingNDAs back then, or maybe they
were and we just don't know.
You know, was that a thing youknow, like back in the day when
Reagan talked about the StarWars situation where we were
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going to build this thing?
Was that the same case here,where the government was like we
need a full and let's do somemassive marketing to say that we
went to the moon and and let'sorchestrate this and and collabo
with nasa to um, do acollaboration with nasa to to
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achieve this goal, to land onthem, pretend like we landed on
the moon.
I don't know.
I just don't see that as athing all right.
Uh, as we continue movingthrough these conspiracies, I
think one that really throws meoff is it's probably when we
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start talking about some of theother conspiracies that seem to
have happened, like the.
Oh, the Roswell UFO crash isone too.
But you know what's interestingto me about the Roswell UFO
crash and the Maury Islandincident, here, off of Maury
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Island, which is next to VashonNow, that one doesn't get talked
about as much unless you'refrom the Pacific Northwest, an
enthusiast of UFOs, or UAPs asthey call them now, and this is
why you see me always say thatthe Pacific Northwest is the
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home of the most paranormalactivity or another entity to
you know, maybe McDonnellDouglas or one of the other
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manufacturers to build these,you know, spaceships or unmanned
we'll call them developmentalprojects, dark projects,
developmental projects, darkprojects.
And this is why there was anincident by Roswell and here
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near, or the incident on MauryIsland.
And what's interesting, when wetalk about those two pieces,
you know you have the UFOsightings prior to the Roswell
incident.
We're talking about theincident that happened near
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Mount Rainier, when KennethArnold saw and reported the UFOs
as flying saucers from hisviewpoint near Mount Rainier.
Now, then, in later weeks,there was the Maury Island
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incident, which then triggered JEdgar Hoover to send these
gentlemen with glasses and blacksuits to the area, this
nicknaming them the Men in Black.
So, and then after thatincident and I believe it's
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within weeks, they're very closetogether was the Roswell crash.
Now, if these extraterrestrialswere coming to Earth during that
time period, where were theycoming from?
And the technology if that wasthe case, of them having this
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crash site with them, findingadvanced technology, the bodies
of these individuals?
Did the United States work withthese extraterrestrials to
either retrieve the bodies ofthese ets to give them back to
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their, to their, their you knowcounterparts, and what
technology did we learn and gainfrom this?
It's very interesting to me onhow advanced we have become as a
nation and as a world becauseof this technology.
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Now, during the 1947s, duringthe Cold War days, we weren't
sharing much with anybody, right, it was all about what was in
it for us.
But for our protection as acountry, a country, we weren't
sharing this information withothers.
Heck, no so.
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Were they lending and givingthe same technology to other
countries, or were we the onlyones who were able to grab such
information, reverse, engineerand make some of the most
advanced stealth, liketechnologies, with the advanced
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composites that are availablenow, that were designed back in
those days?
Think about that.
How fast we really, from the1900s up to 47, plus then from
47 up to now, on what thetechnology has really just moved
at a rapid pace and now thatmost of our cell phones have
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more power than the spaceshuttle did back in the day,
it's amazing on how that worksand how fast we rapidly had
grown as a society, as a species, very intriguing to me.
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So I would say that, the moonlanding being a hoax, the JFK
assassination, we didn't talkabout this one.
We were talking about theRoswell crash, where everyone I
mean you think about it, youhave an area that is blocked off
and we'll go back to the otherconspiracies the 9-11, we'll get
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into that shortly.
But the Roswell UFO crash, whenyou talk about where you have
an area in Roswell that is wherethe crash has taken place, and
then this stuff has beentransported to an area called
Area 51.
And, for sure, when you blockoff an area that no one can go
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to and it's very secret, I meanit is it just smells and reeks
of conspiracy.
Baby, you just think about it.
You're like, hmm, what's reallybehind the curtain there?
And it could be, and it couldjust be an area.
That is what we would call aplace for test beds, for secret
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military ops planes, unmanneddrones, things of that nature,
and this might be the test bedfor that.
We just don't know, becausewe'll never know what's behind
the curtains at area 51.
But I believe that if this isthe case, where the ufo crash at
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roswell, did they really land?
Didn't?
Did aliens really land here,and did they take those bodies
and that flying saucers, ufos,uap to Area 51 to reverse
engineer what they had found?
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Because think about it, if wecould reverse engineer all that
stuff, the possibilities oftechnology and advancements,
leaps and bounds of what we weredoing back in the 1940s on
tremendous levels.
And and so I think one of theconspiracies that has been uh, I
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don't want to say gainingtraction, but gaining momentum
in recent days has been the 9-11conspiracy of being an inside
job.
What really happened, as weknow, what happened on that
faithful day during 9-11, butpeople coming back right now on
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social media platforms onmultiple levels are are sharing
their thoughts about being aninside job.
Now, man, that would bedevastating on on multiple
levels if this is the case now.
Now there are some conspiraciesthat I'm like pretty skeptic
about, and others I try not tobe, and this might be one of
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those where I kind of leave itto the individual you can
believe what you want to believe, but it's tough.
I mean, we all know that.
You know thousands of peopledied.
You know men and women who wererescue first responders that
passed away on that tragic day,on 9-11.
It just was a no-win situation.
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But the you know, make nomistake if.
If that was the case, um, thisbeing inside job, I think that
if it was, I mean, you're goingto find out very shortly, soon,
you will find out that this wasnot that.
If it was an inside job,believe me, the administration
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will release that information.
They're not going to hold back.
I promise you that, not thisadministration.
All right, this administrationwill not hold back on something
like that.
This administration will nothold back on something like that
.
And I know where everyone istalking about in these different
conspiracies about how thebuildings came down.
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Look, I'm no structuralengineer and I'm not going to
pretend to be one, but what Isaw that day was tragic.
It did look like it was animplosion, but I I believe that
the weight and structure hadfailed itself and that's why you
just saw windows being poppedout and just the stress.
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The things that we saw with ourown eyes were were tragic
people.
You know, having to make adecision on either staying in
the building or having to jumpout the window for rescue oh
that's terrible.
And you know we have, in pastshows have had guests who have
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come on to share their firsteyewitness encounters and how
tragic that day was, and thatthey have been a part of the
9-11 trials and what they sawthat day will live in their
minds forever.
You can't unpaint what you sawthat day, including if it was on
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TV, and there is a ton of stuffthat is being released right
now about this being some typeof inside job, a new documentary
about another plane.
Where do those people go?
It's just, it is a very tragicsituation, obviously 9-11 not
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being something, um, that we allsaw coming.
You know we did.
It was the modern day pearlharbor.
For those who were not aroundfor that, that's what that is.
It felt like a very much amodern day pearl harbor.
You know we always say pre-9-11,post-9-11.
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You know, remember going to theairport and seeing your loved
ones off to their plane andwalking them to their gate ramp,
you know, maybe going throughsecurity checkpoint and then you
walk back.
Those days, you know, areclearly long gone because we're
talking you know that was such along time ago Is the government
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holding secrets back?
Everyone loves this conspiracyand this is one that we'll talk
about here shortly.
We'll talk about the RutilianBirds aren't real, we'll talk
about that as well.
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But the one that kind of sparksmy interest is the Denver
Airport being a hidden symbolfor the underground Illuminati.
Now, if you're a hugeconspiracy theorist and you
don't believe and you alwaysquestion everything, and this
one throws me off and I wouldsay that the Denver Airport,
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international Airport, to me, ifit's you know's what they say
it is being, on multiple levels,a hidden symbol for the
Illuminati, the Masons.
You see a lot of things thatwould portray this.
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These emblems hidden all overthe airport Kind of freak people
out.
And why would there beunderground bunkers?
Is there a city that livesunderneath the city?
Is there a secret societyrunning things underneath this
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airport?
Why would the airport needhidden tunnels?
Are the hidden tunnels toefficiently run things, to get
baggages across places?
Is it so that workers cancommute and not be on the tarmac
?
I mean, these are things thataren't talked about and why
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people are very suspicious about.
And these tunnels, you know, areunderneath and obviously
there's trains running throughsome of these to get the, you
know, to get people to and fromareas, but behind those trains
are, you know, automatic,automatic baggage systems.
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But, of course, this is whypeople think that there are, you
know, bunkers, secret bunkersthat are down there, and could
this be, could it contain theilluminati's headquarters, in
addition to you know, some ofthe dna, uh, just some of the
stuff that is going around andand why people think that this
is a place of conspiracy.
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You know, the giant horse forthose who may have not been out,
there is a node to the fourhorsemen in the uh apocalypse.
Uh, the mustang that's at theuh airport, the blue one with
the red eye, um, was a sculpture.
Uh, some of the artwork alsohas provided clues about the end
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of the world, which isinteresting to me, and why this
would be.
Uh, why would they have this atan airport?
You know, why would they putthese?
What?
You know, what was the conceptbehind that and why were they so
fixated on end times?
If that's the case, you know,with these murals and whatnot,
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so, um, always a fun conspiracyto to look at and to talk about,
because, with there being somuch out there, you know you
start to see these things, youstart to look.
If you're in the Denver airportnext time, let me know what you
think.
Tell me, I have not been to theDenver airport for so much time
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nor did I pay attention to whatwas going on.
When I was there.
I just went to my destination.
I think is really what happened, okay.
Uh, let's keep things movingalong.
Um, now this one's interestingto me the do you?
For those that think or believethat the pandemic was engineered
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, there had been conspiraciesgoing around during the pandemic
the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic thatthis was something that was a
COVID-19 plus a 5G push, aCOVID-19 plus a 5G push.
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There were a lot of individualsthat believed that there was
this huge thing, that and duringthe time, there was a phobia
about the 5G piece.
Those of us who weren'teducated started to believe the
theories by tens of thousands,uh, that were being established
(37:02):
of this um conspiracy, of thecorrelation of this virus and 5g
to distribute, for distributionof it or to activate said virus
.
Having the density of these 5Gtowers suggested there's a
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casual relationship, them, andthen the theory promoting by
those that were distributingthis misinformation about the
virus.
Um, look, believe what you wantto believe.
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I just didn't see that 5G andCOVID were two things that were
tied together.
But, yes, there was thatconspiracy, but there was also
the conspiracy of COVID-19 andit being manufactured in Wuhan,
things of that nature.
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Now believe what you want tobelieve.
I will say that there were alot of people that died from the
pandemic with this virus andman.
Those were some rough times.
It was just not fun at all,scary to see thousands of people
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.
Just interesting too, to besomeone who had been working
during the pandemic, where a lotof people were working from
home.
That wasn't really the case fora small portion of us who had
either been working for anentity like media, uh, or the
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backbone for media, broadcastengineers, things of that nature
.
We still went in, we were, wewere protected by either wearing
masks, but we weren't.
It was just like one of thosesituations where you went to
work, you came home, it was verystrange uh times.
I mean we, we all right, I mean, the roads were empty back in
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those days.
It was like a ghost town, Imean, and that wasn't that long
ago was a different time forsure.
Just very interesting, veryeerie.
You know, as as if you've neverread the book, behold the pale
horse.
You, you read some of thesethings that are in there, um, of
what william cooper wrote about.
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You know, different times, whythese entities were built.
You know what powers that theyhad um why the interstate roads
were in, you know, wereconnected, it just just a
different time.
And boy it did sure feel likewe were in end times.
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And hey, let's just be honest,if COVID-19 was a real thing and
the and the planet was reallyupset with us.
Man, the planet was very upsetwith us and said you know what
we need to humble theseindividuals, to wipe them off
either completely gone andextinct the human race, or
quickly, as a species, wequickly adapted to fix a virus
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that was rapidly taking overindividuals' lives and
unfortunately, many people haddied from COVID.
Very, very tough times duringthat pandemic and I didn't
really see so much of the 5Gpiece on the social or the
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booming of TikTok.
I didn't really see that one init.
It just has been within thelast um, I think after post, uh,
you know the pandemic where thedifferent variants where this,
uh, this conspiracy had takenplace.
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Now Getting back to thesedifferent conspiracies.
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I've heard this one, but what'sinteresting to me is, you know,
what you didn't see is that inrecent days, one of the biggest
conspiracies that has beenreally posting up is birds
aren't real, they're strategicand they are a part of
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government surveillance.
So those that are out therethat believe that these are like
tactical surveillance pieceswe're talking like like where
are they going, these pigeons?
Uh, these birds.
How interesting would that beif these birds were, um, not
(42:48):
real?
Now, if you ask me, you don't.
Really you didn't, and I thinkthe conspiracy really took off
was that you didn't really see alot of pigeons out during that
time frame, but you didn't see alot of humans either, and
that's what makes thisconspiracy take flight.
Why would individuals besubscribing to this theory of
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the birds not being real?
I mean, there have been pigeonsthat have been found dead on
streets or hit by vehicles.
I just this one threw me off,this one threw me for a loop,
not because I don't believe it,I just I didn't really see it.
And I think it's just becauseyou know that during that time,
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none of us saw that.
And, of course, you know whatpeople are saying that the birds
aren't real.
They're actually.
You know, governmentsurveillance drones is what they
would say which you know arekeeping an eye on us individuals
.
An eye on us individuals.
Certainly, this conspiracy hastaken traction because of social
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media, but this is what we callmisinformation Trending,
because of the misinformationcoming from these different
social media entities and ayounger generation, uh, being
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skeptical towards this type ofinformation.
Even, you know, even us at anolder, when we start to see this
stuff multiple times, you'relike, oh, this has got to be
real.
You know, I mean, for example,my aging, you know dad will sit
(45:07):
and scroll on social and listento these videos.
That's not real news and listento these videos.
That's not real news.
There might be news agenciesthat are reporting, but those
are far and few in between allthe other misinformation or
information that is beingdisseminated on these social
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platforms.
You want a good conspiracy.
I believe that social media isa social experiment on the human
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race the endorphins.
This is like the new cigarettesof of of addiction.
Think of how much time peoplespend doom scrolling or what
they call doom scrolling forthose who don't do this where
they just sit on for hours onend just looking through their
social media pages and lookingto see what's out there and you
(46:12):
get high off of that.
You get a fix, just like youtake that drag from a cigarette
Posting and having people likeyour comments and things of that
nature.
It feels good.
You get this euphoric high andthen you want another hit.
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They know that these reportshave come out on why they were
hushing, why they didn't wantyounger, why they did not want
individuals to know that it wasnot good for the younger kids
and the developmental piece ofthe brain.
If you have kids, please,please, please, keep them off
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social media, not because of theaddiction piece, and let their
brains grow.
And it's hard.
I mean we've done a pretty goodjob on raising our daughter,
who now has some social mediaplatform, but not all of them.
It is difficult, you know, whenyou're navigating in a modern
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world where you have this littlephone that has the availability
to connect to anything.
But for those of us who havegrown up without them, to have
that peace, they're going to bethe generation that grew up with
them.
We can grow up, and we grew upwithout them and then having
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them and then learning to usethese social media platforms,
from MySpace online toeventually having these entities
on our phone, at our fingertips, I mean in our palm of our
hands.
I mean because we really stillhad them at our fingertips, I
mean in our palm of our hands.
I mean because we really stillhad them at our fingertips when
we're sitting here at ourcomputers looking through our
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Facebook pages and thesedifferent bulletin boards and
things of that nature.
It was definitely different.
So I always recommend, from mypoint of view, if you have kids
or grandkids, go get the kidsoutside.
I mean it's beautiful,weather's been fantastic, it's
summertime.
Kids are mostly out of schoolnow.
If they're not, they're almostdone, just enjoy, go, take, take
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them for a drive on the weekendand interact and do something
fun.
I mean, life's too short.
Clearly you can't go to a lot ofour national parks at this
point in time, and not becauseof um, these are all all natural
, uh reasons that you can't goto the, to the some of the
national parks you can go to.
But if you're trying to go to,like mount rainier, you're
definitely you're gonna have to,you know, do your research on
(48:49):
that.
And same with mount st helens.
You cannot get to mount sthelens and johnson's observatory
Observatory due to the roadbeing gone, which is super
unfortunate.
What a beautiful drive.
If you ever get to do it, youcan also drive the backside and
go to Ape Cave and you can gothe backside of Mount St Helens
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and be a part of that piecewhere you can go to Ape Cave and
kind of drive along thoseroutes.
But remember when you're outthere.
You're in Bigfoot country, soyou know the rules.
You're not supposed to shootthem and you're not even
supposed to harass them if youdo see them.
I guess that's a law here tooas well.
I did not know that.
I think I've seen that inrecent days.
Now, do you believe that any ofthese conspiracies are real?
(49:34):
You know, send me a text, letme know.
I know we're getting close toending things here from the
pacific northwest, but uh, our,you know time getting close to
the end here and and I I guessone of the latest conspiracies
is the dead internet theory.
Is AI controlling the onlinecontent?
(49:57):
Now, do you believe that?
Are you able to find what youneed?
Are you finding what isavailable to you?
Are you looking?
Have you had that opportunityto search for something and you
didn't find it?
Do you feel like AI iscontrolling that?
This is a new conspiracy to me.
I mean, I've gone and searchedon AI stuff but I haven't found
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anything to be that I was like,oh yeah, I haven't really spent
that much time and I don't thinka lot of us are sitting at a
computer looking and using them.
I think most of us are on ourphones.
Do you feel like you're feelinglike the government is
controlling or AI is controllingwhat's being pushed out there
(50:44):
as a narrative?
Do you feel like you're beingcontrolled right now?
And for some of us right now,or for some of you out there,
maybe you feel like that.
Maybe you feel like we are inend times.
Are you prepared?
Do you have everything you need?
Do you feel like we're aprosperous country?
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Do you feel like that we're ina disarray?
Do you feel like we're in asimulation?
What do you feel?
Are you like me, who isenjoying every day Now, every
day that I have to just enjoywhat's out here, what's
(51:26):
available, the fresh air.
Maybe it's not fresh for all ofus, but that ocean air if you're
down there at ocean shores,maybe that, maybe if you're
taking a drive up to clee ellumor, uh, you're in duval for
duval days that just recentlyhappened that that pine, that
smell of the woods god, I lovethat smell.
(51:50):
I mean you just can't getenough of it.
That fresh air smell, the oceanmist If you're over there by
the ocean, or if you're by thelake, the chirping of the birds
listening to the wind howlthrough the trees and the leaves
Something special about thatthis time of year.
So if you have an opportunityto go somewhere, go do it.
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If you can get up to hurricaneridge fantastic place to go and
spend your money.
Go spend your money in some ofthese local establishments in
port angeles some great stuff.
Go see.
Go see tom seawood out there atthe bigfoot museum over there.
Go over there and check him out.
(52:35):
Go hang out and see what he'sgot cooking on.
Go get yourself a t-shirt.
Go see your buddy over there.
Maybe you're out in Orting,you're heading towards Mount
Rainier.
You can't really go there, butmaybe you're going to go and do
a, maybe you're going to drivethe backside or something like
that.
Go to one of these small towns.
Go eat in these small towns.
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Go get a burger from a smalltown, ordin.
There's some great stuff outthere.
People need it, people love it.
Go support these localbusinesses that are out here.
They're time to shine, becauseduring the winter times it's
gloomy.
You've got those doom and gloomdays and, hey, if you're
(53:17):
heading up to leavenworth, thatdrive on highway 2.
Now here's a little secret thatI'm going to pass along to you.
There's a bakery in saltoncalled the salton bakery, and
they pay me nothing for this.
But if you're looking for thebest breakfast sandwich,
homemade breakfast sandwich, Ikid you not, and I'm going to
(53:42):
blow this up, they have the bestbreakfast sandwich made on
fresh white bread.
Now, the key is, the breakfastsandwich is just a breakfast
sandwich, but because it's madeon fresh, fresh white bread, it
is fantastic.
I kid you not.
Stop, get yourself a breakfastsandwich and it gives me that,
(54:06):
maybe that nostalgic breakfast,old school breakfast sandwich
that your mom or your pa wouldmake back in the day, on the
bread and they don't toast it,it's white.
You can have it toasted, but Idon't.
Let me tell you, this breakfastsandwich is chef's kiss, one of
the best sandwiches I've everhad.
(54:27):
Okay.
So if you're heading that way,there's a spot there.
And I guess now as you head upto Leavenworth, if you're
driving on Highway 2, you seethat big statue of Bigfoot.
I guess there's now commercethere and there's the diner.
If you continue going almost upto the Wenatchee Lake Wenatchee
(54:47):
, there's that diner.
That's on the right-hand sidebefore you take the left into
the campgrounds of LakeWenatchee.
Up there, just go spend somemoney in these diners and some
of these establishments, even ifyou just stop by to stretch
your legs.
Because I mean, really, let'sbe honest, are you in a rush to
get to Leavenworth?
I mean you could be, because abrat and a beer would sound
(55:08):
really nice right about now, ormaybe you're driving home,
whatever the case may be, butdefinitely stop at those spots,
hit those commerce.
Even when you're on your wayout of Leavenworth there's
always that one.
As you're leaving, there's likea quick spot to grab like a
little commerce, a grocery storeor something like that.
Stop there.
Spend your money.
(55:28):
Your money's always greener.
It helps these guys.
All right, that's our time.
If you have a show idea and youwould like to be a part of US
Phenomenon, we'd love to haveyour input or your take on a
suggestion.
Maybe you have a haunted areathat you would like us to
investigate.
If you're into, we have a newpodcast coming soon.
If you're into spirits, staytuned.
(55:49):
Go to my website onairmariocom.
We'll have more information.
If you're a tequila, if you'rea spirits person, if you love
whiskey, if you love tequila, ifyou're a vodka or gin
individual, we're going to getinto some of these spirits in a
new podcast coming up, so we'dlove to hear from you.
If you have your favorite one,send us a text 775-990-5151.
(56:12):
That wraps things up for us,for my entire team, mark
Christopher, sofia Magana andmyself.
Mario Magana, be sure to lookup at the sky, because you never
know what you might see.
Good night.
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