October 31, 2023 • 35 mins
What will digital content look like in 5 years time? In Ep#56 we're going to rehash everything we've learned this season, lay out my predictions for what is ahead of us and learn how you can help shape the future direction of this very podcast.
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Kyrin Down (00:00):
What will digital content
look like in five yearstime?
Welcome everyone
to the final episodeof season
three of the valuefor Value podcast.
You've got your host here,
Kyrinfrom the Mere Mortals,
Mere Mortals bookreviews as well.
But this is the valuefor value show
(00:21):
where we helpdigital content creators
connectwith their audience
and be able to monetiseat the same time,
avoiding the
corrupting influence
that I believeof advertising
and not even justcorrupting.
I thinkit's actually going to die
and that'swhy I'm going to lay out
my ideas here for seasonthree of the Value
for Value podcast.
My my vision of the future
(00:42):
vs the visionof the future.
So what we're going to doof this is
have a look backat what we've learned
in these last episodesof of season three.
I think
we did about 18 or 19,which is about as usual.
That's, that's typically
how many I doin the season.
We're going to watch meget hyped up
about the possibilitieson what I think
(01:02):
is going to happenin the future
and then even worktogether to shape
this very showfor us. Season four
and what's going tocome up with that.
Before we do that, though,let's go over
what we've learnedfrom season three.
So just
as a quick reminder
as well, Seasonone was all about
the philosophy of valuefor value,
the first learning of it,how it interacts,
how it's differentfrom advertising or
(01:23):
paywalls or sponsorshipsand things like that.
Season two
was really looking
at particular podcastsand how they were
interactingand using value for value
and making this workthat shows.
And then season three,well,
boy, did I go offcourse a bit.
So my original plan
was to followthe eight chapters
that I had set upwhen I made the episode
(01:44):
394 of the models,which was all about yet
kind of Bitcoin value
for valueand podcasting, RSS.
However, I didn't stickto the letter of that.
I think I didkind of reasonably well,
probably stuckto about half of them.
But other cool topics
that came up andI just had to cover them.
So I'd say what, whatwe most learnt from, from
(02:07):
this was the,
the foundationof everything
that we're doing hereis the most critical.
So if you go backto episodes 39
to roughly 44 of,of this very podcast,
so these had titles
like the four Properties,what is a podcast,
The Emergenceof Podcasting,
two Pono micropaymentsactually work
based around messages,things like this.
(02:29):
These werethe kind of philosophy
of the underpinnings.
So we learned aboutthe four properties.
These were
decentralisation, selfsovereignty
being permissionlessand value transfer
and how these worktogether
to create these abilities,to have micropayments,
to have splits
and why a podcastis valuable, for example.
(02:50):
So this was reallyfocusing on on those three
three letteracronyms, RSS,
V4 V and BTC.
So this was
I suppose the main thingthat I tried
I wanted to get acrossfor this season.
Season three what, whatthese three things were
and and whythat was so important.
So that was reallyat the start of it.
(03:12):
Then when we gotinto the later episodes,
this was said,this is 45 to 55.
Even this one I guess 256
these werea mixture of philosophy.
So this iswhen we're talking about
open source and valuefor value concepts,
such as in episode 51,the open source revolution
is upon us 47 Common v4v
(03:32):
Misconceptions 54
How to ask for supportthings like this.
We then got on to
more of the implementationso these were
the podcasting 2.0 appsand the valued time split.
So this was when I didepisode 53,
the run throughof the podcasting 2.0 apps
and some of the kindof like statistics
(03:55):
and things like this,the V for V music,
how to access V for Vmusic and 45 and 46.
And then finallywhere we are
at this momentwith V for V music,
with video,with podcasting to produce
statistics and with text.
And so that kind of filled
out the rest of this and,
and some other little bitssuch as like
the incentives of hosting
(04:15):
and mini case examplesthat I've done.
So those quitea few things.
This was just to sayas a reminder,
all of this only worksbecause of RSS.
Bitcoinand values for value
and how they interactand merge together.
So that the interestingthing about
this is I suppose
I didn'tget too deep into it,
but you know,these are not affected by
(04:37):
external things.
So the whimsof technology.
So I for example,that's not going to make
RSS obsolete.
If anything, I creationsare going to
make their wayinto the mechanism, the,
the distribution mechanismthat is RSS
are the economic decisionsof anyone government.
So this is where,you know, money printed
(04:59):
go brr In some countriesthis is where,
you know, fiscalthings are happening,
money is getting debased.
You know, peopleare feeling inflation
costs are risingand things like this.
None of thatreally matters to Bitcoin.
So which is why, okay,we're layering this in
on top of the distribution
and then we have the kindof cultural sways of
what is hot or not
(05:19):
and who is oppressedand cancel culture
and what's going to goto happen here.
And you know this person.
So the bad thing onceagain, value for value
is a isa countermeasure to that
because you're not relyingon one sponsor, which is
very much influencedby the whims of the crowd
or the mob or a advertiseor even a suite of of
(05:44):
of social appswhich will kick you off
if you do or don't saya certain thing.
So that's pretty muchwhat we covered in
in all of this. Why?
Why it's important to have
RSS, why it's importantto have Bitcoin
on top of this,
and then why valuefor value
is the kind of trifecta
and the merging of thesethree three things.
(06:04):
So that's,I suppose, what I tried
to convey here in seasonthree, my value for value
vision of the future.
So that that's very muchI kind of,
I guess like the pastleading up to the present.
What, what do I thinkis coming for the future?
So I kind of want to paint
a picture
here of a combiningof all digital mediums.
So the,
the ability to createis only ever expanding.
(06:28):
And so creating
an amazing image,
which a lot of peopleare now able
to do through thingslike Mid Journey
and then just posting it
on Instagram,
I just don't thinkis going to cut it.
So what do I kind of seehappening for the fur
for the future?
Well, RSS, for example,
all of
the current platformsI believe, are so limiting
(06:48):
for collaboration.
So sure, you can have somepeople where it's like,
I put my music on Tik Tokand then a girl can dance
to this music and create aan interesting thing.
But all of these kindof platforms that exist
for distributionof, of digital content.
So I'm really thinking
of the social platformshere.
(07:09):
I just they don't playnicely with each other.
And I was talking about
this recently in
one of the recent episodesabout how
if I wantedto have a short video,
I had to go individually
and post iton each platform.
And that's because,
once again, advertising
is this kind of thing
that just lays downand creates all of these
weird incentives.
So I think RSS actually
(07:31):
allows fora lot more collaboration.
And I think we're goingto really see this
with a merging ofof these digital mediums
where people who are moreexpertise in text
can combine with someone
who is more expertisein audio.
And how is this goingto work?
Well,I think the incentives
to work together areactually going to align.
(07:53):
So this is where it comesto, to Bitcoin
and all of these old onesthat there was
there was no incentive
to work together
becausehow can you get paid
and then how can you know,
there'sgoing to get a split?
So, sure, you can geta little token on on
tik-tok of an ice creamemoji or things like this.
Same thing on on YouTubewhere sure,
(08:16):
you can get some money,but you know, it's
only go into one account,
you're not ableto split it up
even if you've got another
person on your showand things like this.
This is where we really
getting into the nutsand bolts of,
okay, if it's direct,peer to peer,
and if you can createsplits,
it just takes awayso much bullshit,
takes away the middleman,
and it has theseincentives where, Oh,
(08:39):
okay, I'm actuallyputting my work out here
and I don't have to.
I can focus completelyand solely on the art
of what I'm creating
for an amazing experiencefor my audience.
And then I can just get
distribute, I can get paidfor that via
that by my audience.
It's a it's so much moreof a direct interaction.
(09:01):
I think the incentivesmake it
so that you are goingto create better art,
you're going to create.
And when I say art,
I'm really encompassingeverything here.
I'm including podcasts,I'm including text,
I'm including videos, I'mincluding,
you know, music, I'mincluding pictures.
I'm includingwhatever it is
that you can imaginethat you want to create.
(09:22):
It's it'sjust being able to do that
and then having peopledirectly be able to
reward you for that
without having to do
all this bullshitwith advertising,
which once againis getting onto the value
for value portion.
I really just thinkadvertising
is going to shrivelwith direct
peer to peer payments.
It just everything linesup and makes it so that
(09:43):
there's there'sno incentives to have
advertising or well,like the incentives,
advertising for me alwaysseems like a workaround.
It always seems like a
indirect way of monetising
your audience,which is what it is.
You know, it's it's
not like advertisingadvertisers are paying you
just because they reallywant to put this thing on
(10:04):
your show.
It's like,Oh yeah, it's going
to make a better showif I have a
if if I have an adfor mattresses in there.
This is
this is what I reallythink is going to happen.
No, they're doing itso that their audience
can pay themand then they can pay you.
So what would happenif you can
your audiencecan just pay you.
It justmakes so much more sense.
So this is where I reallythink my my V4 vision
(10:27):
of the future is.
It's it'sjust going to take away.
People are getting sickof dealing with what
one hearing advertiseson the podcast.
I'm absolutelycertain of that.
But once again,I think this is moving
beyond just podcastingand is going to
a value for value
expanding out into all ofthese digital mediums.
(10:49):
And so you might say like.CORIN, you know what?
What would you smokeand you smoking crack.
Yeah, And no, no, becauseit's already happening.
So let me list offa couple examples.
We have
McCormack, who is the host
of the AmericaPlus podcast.
He is creating his he'svery much a visual person
by natureand a videographer
(11:09):
who just happensto have created a podcast,
and he's creating a film
called Magic MushroomFun Time.
And what he's going to do
is he's going to put valuefor value
music in and his selectedthree songs,
and these are going to be
core to,I guess, the experience
that he's creating.
He's using a mixture of,I believe,
like in real lifefilming of, of him
(11:30):
and his girlfriendand visuals created
through mid Journeyto create a video.
And then he's goingto blend this all together
and hopefully he'll maybewith my help, be able
to figure outhow to create this into a
into a video podcastto then enable payments
to be ableto go out to the value
(11:51):
for value musicianswho are used,
and that to
himself and his girlfriend
who acted in it,maybe into me
if I help him outwith all of this.
So it's like, okay,
well this is where videois starting to emerge.
And withaudio and voice of music,
we havethe behind the schemes.
I've talked about thispodcast a couple of times.
They are the most wacky,craziest podcast
(12:11):
experienceyou will ever see.
And that was this one timewhere I remember
they were creatingGIFs or GIFs.
How have you pronouncedthat,
to put itin the chapter Art.
So essentiallywhen you are listening
to the podcast,
you are kind of actuallygetting a video experience
in a much smallercompressed format
becausethey were using GIFs
(12:32):
and when one chapterfinished,
the next one would startand then
the next gif would start.
So they were ableto kind of create
a little video here.
Once again, it's it'sdifferent. It's not.
It's a different medium.
What they're doing overthere was once again
they're putting music
and value for value ableand the wolf, the first
V for V musiciansto create a full album
(12:54):
dedicated to and utilisingall the the technology
that was availableat the time.
So this was roughly twoyears ago and Christmas,
the album was created by
peoplewho enjoyed their music
or who wanted to helpcontribute
to what they were doingand they got a split.
(13:15):
So once again,okay, now we're seeing
people who are much betterat more the visual art,
being able to interactwith the musician
and once againkind of get paid for it.
We see Dred Scott, someonewho maybe doesn't have
particular skillsin videography or audio
or who is not particularlya creative themself.
He he's creating chaptersfor multiple shows
(13:37):
in the post-productionstage,
and he's adding his ownspin into the art
to be able to createsomething
that is different,that is new,
that is valuable,and he is also
getting rewarded for it.
Okay, Well,now we're seeing people
who maybe onon the highest end of
the creativity spectrum.
And I very much put myselfon that as well,
being ableto help contribute
(13:59):
and participatein in a digital medium.
Let's look at the doleful
so into the doleful verse.
This is a
a familyof of ten brothers
and one sisteror nine brothers
and one
sister of ten of ten kidswho are musicians.
It's like the epitomeof what I imagine
like the rural SouthAmerica to be.
(14:21):
And they've createda podcast together
to showcase the music,to talk
about what they were doingwith their music.
They play live musicon this podcast.
I can boost into it,
and it's a way for themto hike,
highlight, to showcase
what is going on
with all of their
old catalogue
and bring it
into this new medium,into this new world,
(14:43):
because they're
sick of Spotifyand they're sick of the
what they would call
the exploitivenature of it,
whereyou put your music up
and you get nothingin reward
or you get a pittancelike a tool from Spotify.
Here is somemoney in my spit. Take it.
We have textcommenting of listeners.
(15:03):
Once again it's peopleproduce as of a show
appearing as chaptersfor crowdsourced info.
I participatedin this myself where Adam
and Dave on podcasting
2.3 were saying somethingabout one of my shows
and I was like, Oh,it's not exactly right.
I sent in a boost in
at that time
so that when people are
listening in,
(15:23):
if they happento check out their app,
they will see, Oh, COD
can't actually senda message here
clarifyingwhat they were saying.
And then we had who wasI think it was Chad.
If being able to then
boostand after that and see
say kind of like,oh, I see your message.
Thank you for that kind.
There'sso much kind of cool stuff
going on whereeveryone can participate.
(15:44):
Once again, this
this ability
for digital mediumsto all merge and together.
And I very much imaginethat in five years time
there is going to be
a word for whateverthe hell is going on here.
I don't know what it isgoing to be,
but very much in the samethat podcasting was
a completely new wayto access audio
(16:07):
in a different formatthat was on demand
that was not througha radio station.
I very much think thatwe're
creating something herewhich will be
of a similar magnitude,maybe even bigger.
Who knows where
in five, ten years timeit's going to be like,
What the hell is thisthing?
This is completelydifferent.
(16:27):
V for the musicis an example of this.
Maybe it will be that. But
now Ihad this recent chat on
the models with this guycalled Alexander Watson up
and he's an artist.
He creates things,
but he creates itthrough code
and so he puts this codeonto a blockchain.
And then this interactswith how
with people,
(16:48):
when they interactwith the art,
they can actuallyparticipate in it.
And he had this examplewhere it was,
you know, imagine if youhad a Picasso painting
and you were able to add astroke to it yourself
whilstit still retained the
appearanceand the recognition
of everyone ofbeing a Picasso painting.
(17:08):
So you addingit has not defaced it,
you've actually addedto the art yourself
that is a extremely hugedraw.
And in this contextwe were talking about
being able to do this
via blockchain and,and you know,
as you are
participatingwith the art,
you get to choose
what is actually
being created
and this will affect
the kind of whole setof of the code that is.
(17:31):
And thecode allows for this.
And I think there's a very
similar parallelto what's going on here
with, with
everythingthat we're doing
value for value,podcasting and music and
and text and videoand things like this.
It's addingthat interactive element
from the audiencewhere, you know,
I'm kind of doing it nowvia Boostagrams.
(17:52):
I read out your boost
agramsand I very much thank you
for those messagesthat you coming in.
What if you can do it withI suppose my guidance
I don't want you
just coming in and rushing
and completelytaking over the show.
But what if you havethe creativity to add
to the show,much like Drebb has done?
Much like the Doerfels aredoing with their music,
(18:13):
much like Ableand the Wolf did with the
the artists coming in
and creating
chapter art,much like Cole
is doing with valuefor value music.
There's just so many ways
to collaborate,to participate.
And it's it's not limited.
We're taking downthe barriers
and it's it's amazing.
It's so, so cool.
Which gets onto
the final portion ofthis is I'm my,
(18:36):
I suppose, value for valuevision of the future.
I it's I thinkit's an adding to the pie.
It's not necessarily
going to take awayfrom advertising or
paywallsor things like that.
Those certainlystill will exist.
But I do want to givea reminder.
Okay, let's look
at what's happenedto completely new radical
(18:57):
distribution methodsof digital content.
And we'll just takeradio here, digital
newspapers and even TV.
I believe that advertisinghas made them all trash.
They are listening to
the radionow is impossible for me.
Newspapers,if you want to look
(19:17):
at something online,you know,
try looking at a Forbesarticle
and you will get hit witha paywall immediately.
TV is just a cesspool ofwhat is it?
Probably like 12 minutesto every
for every 30 minutesof programming.
12 minutes of it is ads.
And it's like,
how can we
get more of thisinto their
(19:37):
they kind of proudof being able
to put12 minutes of ads in.
It's like,are you kidding this?
I've heard advertisers
talking abouthow it's it's amazing job
that they've been ableto do that.
And in this case it'susually like
a digital marketing showtalking about monetisation
or somebullshit. And it's just
(19:58):
look, I think we'reat the dawn of a new age.
I'm not the typefor hyperbolic.
I'm very much a calm,rational person, but
value for value.
There's a reason I createdthe value for value show
and I truly believe
we're going to seean unbelievable
explosion of creativitybrought about
by the combination
of RSS Bitcoinand value for value. And
(20:20):
I, I don't know what'sgoing to come from this,
but I'm excited.
I think it's just
even just value for valuemusic is not my socks off
and is consuminglarge portions of my time.
Literally just now.
Before this,
I was listening
to a new show calledUpbeat by Salty Crayon
and it's another additionto this twist
(20:40):
of creativity, of peoplesharing, collaborating and
just creatinga new medium.
I Yeah, I'll leave itat that.
It's just so slow down.Cool.
And I love it.
So I do want to thanksome people
on this lastepisode of Season four.
(21:01):
Welcome to the Value
for Value Instagram
and we've got a couple ofboosts in.
I saw Sam Sethi is
listening into the live.
Thank you very muchfor that, Sam.
I was going to mentionI am live
with all of these.
There will be a new timingfor this
(21:23):
coming up in the future,
which should beon a monday
instead of a Wednesdayfor myself.
So just a little highlightfor that,
but a couple of booststhat we come in here
and there from someclassic supporters.
We have Macintoshand he says,
Sorry, it's been a bitI'm overwhelmed.
I overwhelmedmy Fountain app
and couldn'tget in it for over a week.
Great episode 40 to 4242Sat-Sun using Fountain.
(21:47):
So that's a
double boost from him
because he normally sendsin a 2121
because he is
the host of the Generation
Bitcoin podcastand 21 is a very
special number for them.
So thank you verymuch for that. Macintosh
fountain was coming outwith the it's 1.0 release
and so
any issues
that you've been having
with that,
I know I've been having
(22:08):
some of myselfjust with them
crashingshould be resolved
very soon, so just stickwith it, my friend.
We have another one herefrom who else?
Michael McCormack,host of America Plus.
And he saysvideo is necessary
because we are visualcreatures.
There has to bea different way
to host
distribute video.I'm sure there is
a new solutionaround the corner.
3333 sets itusing fountain as well.
(22:30):
Very muchthank you call for the
the lucky threes thereonce again
he'll be distributingmagic mushroom fun time on
Christmas of this year
so I know he's definitelygoing to put it up on
Twitter and expand Maybeas a as a podcast itself.
We'll just have to seewith that.
But very much worthchecking in
and tuning into his podcast as well to
(22:51):
to hear more about that.
And then the finalone here
we had from a column owner
and he says,I love your podcast
a thousand sets once againsent using Fountain
column owner once again.
So Libra,
host of the LightningThrashers podcast,
I should just make sure.
Yes. LightningThrashers podcast,
which is a metal Vfor the music podcast.
(23:13):
So if you feel likeyou know this VP of music,
they're just playingpop songs
or they're not playinganything
that I specifically love,well,
there's a metal podcastfor you to tune into.
You know,
we're starting to getinto the neat stuff here,
so this is so cool,so gratifying,
so appreciating.
Thank you ever and forfor really joining in
(23:34):
and helpingto support the show.
It it does make a big,big difference to
to myself
to be able to host thisto receive these messages.
That's the most importantthing to know
that people are listeningand it's helpful.
And we even gota live on here
so slowly vis a visthe future
of all payments,lightning, thrashers,
lightning emoji,I don't know what that is.
(23:55):
The emojiwhere it's like the pinky
and the point of finger
pointed up Rock on 3333sent using pod.
Thank you, Coleman.
Very,very much appreciated.
Go check outlightning crashes
is my recommendation.
Okay.
We're going to get into
my tip section hereand I eat my own dog food.
So everything that
(24:16):
I've talked about on here,you send me everything
that I've highlighted.
It's it's it'ssomething that I've used.
I've tuned into all of these shows.
I've played aroundwith all of these apps.
And I
very much appreciate when
I'm this isan educational show.
I'm doing thisto try and help
newcomers to perhaps
(24:37):
even peoplewho are already
well aware of whatvalue for value
is to unlock a new niche,
to think about somethingdifferent, to highlight
what I think isis really happening here
and what's importantabout it.
And allI just want to know
is coming up
to this next seasonto season four is
how can I make this showbetter?
What do you want to hear?
What things that you thinkI'm missing about or not
(25:00):
talking about valuefor value related and
my current plan atthe moment is that I will
I've got I've been reading
quite a few books
about technologyand how they change
the world,especially digital stuff.
So when I'm thinking of
this, I'mthinking of things like
Common is Air by LouisHeid, which is all about
(25:22):
IP and how it's it'snot actually that helpful
and stifles creativity.
I'm thinking of like booksabout Neil Postman
Amusing Ourselvesto Death,
where he was talking aboutwhy he believes that TV
is is actually a
kind of trash, and helinks this to advertising.
Funnily enough,which is very relevant
(25:44):
to this show.
I'm thinking about books
like The Long Tailby Chris Anderson,
and he was really focusing
on what happenedwith Napster and music
and that explosionof creativity
that was unlocked,of people being able
to access musicin this long tail.
So what I was thinking offor season
four was highlighting
some particular pointson these.
(26:06):
I wouldn't call itphilosophical.
It's more it'smore technological,
I guess is whatI was roughly thinking.
So the episodewould be based around
a particulartopic on, okay,
what happenswhen distribution mediums
get unlockedand what happens
when collaboration is madeeasier?
What happens when
the abilityto send micropayments
(26:27):
or to have direct peerto peer payments occurs?
So that is generallywhat I'm thinking.
But once again, I want toto hear your thoughts.
And I mightadd, might if blueberry is
got it sorted by then.
I know Todd isis working on it.
I might even be ableto start highlighting
something too,being playing around
(26:48):
with value for value musicand putting in a split
and being able to do itlive and things like this.
So that's,that's kind of what
I'm planning forfor season four.
But once again,
tips,please give me your tips
on on howI can improve the show.
So season four,I think I'll start in
about a month or so.
Yeah, I've been undera bit of stress recently,
(27:09):
so I would have likedto have started it soon,
but I definitely thinkI need a break.
So that will I'll be backfor sure
and I'll be back soonerrather than later.
And I'm not going to takeanother huge break
like I did between seasonone and season
two and seasontwo and season three.
So yeah, that'sthat's very much what I
am planning for that.
My app and servicehighlight,
(27:30):
if you haven't done it,
I really,really do recommend
going on to podcastindex dot org slash apps.
So this is the place
where you'll have heardall of this
many times beforebecause people are saying
go to new podcast appsor podcast app WSJ.com.
This is where you'reactually going,
this is where it'sgetting linked to
and if you haven't doneit, it's worth
just checking outeverything
(27:51):
that is on here.
So, you know,it says supporting apps,
directoriesand hosting companies.
And we've got POD fansright at the top
that Sam is talking about
and it's it's orderedby the amount of tags
and thingsthat each one supports.
But it's worthjust going in
here and going,okay, look,
we've got POD fans,a completely new
progressive web appslash hosting thing
(28:14):
hosting for or abilityfor podcasts to add
extra bits to their feed,which is because
their hosts arenot particularly playing.
The hosts arenot at the cutting edge
of technology,let's put it that way.
So we've got that.
We've got sovereign feeds,which is semi hosting
and allows you to createyour own feed blueberry.
(28:37):
Just beneath that,once again,
another hosting
a hosting companythat is well on board
and at the topof this list
and hence whyI am using it for this
very showand why I'm moving
one of my other showsover to their
Got Podcast Guru,another app.
We've gotjust so many things.
RSS Bluejust added the ability
for value for valuemusic and musicians.
(29:00):
Sorry,this is more for people
who want to play value
for value music
to be able
to create time splitsand I'm sure they
do hosting as wellfor for music.
We've got pitches by talksabout that
in one ofthe recent episodes.
So this is being ableto do value
for value paymentsin a video platform.
A host of apps,we've got Standard
(29:22):
FM, This is where you cancreate transcripts
kind of withinthe app and be able to
create things like that.
We've got land beats,which is where you can
play all this valuefor value music.
So it's a music app.
The split kittransistor dystopia,
there's just podcastchapters.
It's just hard,many things going on here.
It's absolutely insanehow much interconnected
(29:46):
weaving of specificstuff is on here.
It truly is mind blowing.
So if you think I'm,you know, I'm
I'm kind of hyping it up.
TIME Where is value for
why isn't valuefor value on Spotify?
Why aren't thesebig companies doing it?
They're going to takea while.
It's it's just the natureof the beast.
(30:06):
But there's so much stuffhere now where it's like,
you don't even need those.
Like,
I haven't used Spotifyfor a long, long time
because all of these appsthat I'm using
are just better.
They arejust truly better. And
it takes a whilefor people to find out
just how much betterthey are.
(30:27):
So that is my appand service highlight.
Please check outpodcast apps
dot comand you'll see some very,
very cool,
very interestingthings there
which you can play aroundwith not just for the
a podcasting app
but for all of these
other abilities to createand do interesting things
with transcripts,with the services,
(30:47):
with all sorts of stuff.Incredible.
So I'm going towrap it up here
and with my valuefor value section
as usual,
I'm going to give 15%to someone
and I'm going to give it
to the podcastindex themselves.
So the visionarieswho started this project
to combine RSS Bitcoinand value for value,
you know, Adam and Dave
(31:08):
that look,
Adam's a visionary
for helpingto create podcasting,
so he's already, he'salready got the chops.
Dave is just a wonderfulhuman being.
And these two guys whojust started this thing,
what, three years agoroughly, and
look where we arenow, there's
so much creativity,
so much awesome,amazing things going on.
(31:29):
And they deserveall the recognition they,
you know, as muchas podcasting to an hour
it probably will be andvalue for value as well.
Adam came up with the term
John C Dvorak on his showon the recent
models episode whereI had a chat with him.
He was already sayinglike, you know,
people are saying valuefor value of the TV
(31:49):
without realising
the origin of the term,
which is showcasingjust how broad scale
and how far outit's going.
So it's super amazingand they really do deserve
all the props and,
and for what they're doing
and what they're creating,it's so amazing.
So I'm going to end ithere once again.
Time, talent and treasure.
(32:10):
This is the valuefor Value podcast.
These are the three things
that help this podcasttick along.
Pleasejust share an episode
with a digital creator.
That's that'swhat all I ask for
you for, for this episode.
If you know a musicianwho is struggling
and not enjoying Spotify,
send them to the Valuefor Value podcast
or to somewhere
(32:30):
where you believethat it will help them to
to understandwhat is going on.
And that's all I ask.
And if you know someone
who is interestedin these things,
it's going to it has tostart with the creators
and letting their audienceknow, Hey,
you can come support mehere.
So if you know someonewho is like that,
(32:51):
please share the showwith them or
or even any of the other
resourcesI've talked about.
Once again,this is educational.
I want you to just
create the best thing,
do the best thing forfor someone who is showing
an interestin wanting to learn
so very muchwould be appreciate
if you could do that
talentI've already listed off.
How can I make the showbetter?
(33:11):
What do you want to hear?What is missing?
Any bookrecommendations for?
I was talking aboutwith those ideas
about technologyand how that's going,
how that has changed andaltered altered things.
Please send them to me.
I want to hear them.
And thenfinally, treasure.
We've seen quitea few people
bursting into this show,listening in live, and
(33:32):
you can do thison the new podcast app.
I just listed it offbefore the age
that I covered in
my highlighting sectionwere Let's
see if I can do this offthe top of my head.
Fountain pod vers curacosta
pod fanscosta matic breeze
podcast guru.
And there's one more.
(33:54):
I'll bring it up quicklyright now so I don't
leave that last one out
and the last one there,while you can do it
on the podcastindex website as well.
And then pod friendof course almost, almost
missedMartin's app at the end.
You can also do this
on the podcastindex website
or you can do thisdirectly to me
(34:14):
if you go to me and modelspodcast dot com.
I've got a video thereshowcasing how to use
the new apps.
I've got an explanationof a text,
explanation of everythingthat's going on.
I've even got a little
lightning addressthere for someone
who's absolutely
new, has no ideawhat Bitcoin lightning is.
All those things.
If you copy that in link,it'll give you a,
(34:36):
a highlight ofof how to do that.
And I think I put 2000stats on there
if you want to trythat out as well.
So lots of thingsyou can do lots of stuff
to play around with
and I very much doappreciate it when you
burst into the show
and not only show
your support,
but give me some contentfor the
the next episodes,the next season.
And yeah,well, I'll be back soon to
(34:58):
read those out.
Thank you everyone,for joining me to
to the end of the season.
It was another fantastic
learning experiencefor me,
going live,
trying out
all these things,
and I really do hopethat I've
have helped to enlightenand to
to help some people out.
That's that'swhy I'm doing this.
So we'll leave it therefor today.
And until shortly.
(35:19):
Chao for now, Kyrin out.
What will digital content
look like in five yearstime?
Welcome everyone
to the final episodeof season
three of the valuefor Value podcast.
You've got your host here,
Kyrinfrom the Mere Mortals,
Mere Mortals bookreviews as well.
But this is the valuefor value show
(00:21):
where we helpdigital content creators
connectwith their audience
and be able to monetiseat the same time,
avoiding the
corrupting influence
that I believeof advertising
and not even justcorrupting.
I thinkit's actually going to die
and that'swhy I'm going to lay out
my ideas here for seasonthree of the Value
for Value podcast.
My my vision of the future
(00:42):
vs the visionof the future.
So what we're going to doof this is
have a look backat what we've learned
in these last episodesof of season three.
I think
we did about 18 or 19,which is about as usual.
That's, that's typically
how many I doin the season.
We're going to watch meget hyped up
about the possibilitieson what I think
(01:02):
is going to happenin the future
and then even worktogether to shape
this very showfor us. Season four
and what's going tocome up with that.
Before we do that, though,let's go over
what we've learnedfrom season three.
So just
as a quick reminder
as well, Seasonone was all about
the philosophy of valuefor value,
the first learning of it,how it interacts,
how it's differentfrom advertising or
(01:23):
paywalls or sponsorshipsand things like that.
Season two
was really looking
at particular podcastsand how they were
interactingand using value for value
and making this workthat shows.
And then season three,well,
boy, did I go offcourse a bit.
So my original plan
was to followthe eight chapters
that I had set upwhen I made the episode
(01:44):
394 of the models,which was all about yet
kind of Bitcoin value
for valueand podcasting, RSS.
However, I didn't stickto the letter of that.
I think I didkind of reasonably well,
probably stuckto about half of them.
But other cool topics
that came up andI just had to cover them.
So I'd say what, whatwe most learnt from, from
(02:07):
this was the,
the foundationof everything
that we're doing hereis the most critical.
So if you go backto episodes 39
to roughly 44 of,of this very podcast,
so these had titles
like the four Properties,what is a podcast,
The Emergenceof Podcasting,
two Pono micropaymentsactually work
based around messages,things like this.
(02:29):
These werethe kind of philosophy
of the underpinnings.
So we learned aboutthe four properties.
These were
decentralisation, selfsovereignty
being permissionlessand value transfer
and how these worktogether
to create these abilities,to have micropayments,
to have splits
and why a podcastis valuable, for example.
(02:50):
So this was reallyfocusing on on those three
three letteracronyms, RSS,
V4 V and BTC.
So this was
I suppose the main thingthat I tried
I wanted to get acrossfor this season.
Season three what, whatthese three things were
and and whythat was so important.
So that was reallyat the start of it.
(03:12):
Then when we gotinto the later episodes,
this was said,this is 45 to 55.
Even this one I guess 256
these werea mixture of philosophy.
So this iswhen we're talking about
open source and valuefor value concepts,
such as in episode 51,the open source revolution
is upon us 47 Common v4v
(03:32):
Misconceptions 54
How to ask for supportthings like this.
We then got on to
more of the implementationso these were
the podcasting 2.0 appsand the valued time split.
So this was when I didepisode 53,
the run throughof the podcasting 2.0 apps
and some of the kindof like statistics
(03:55):
and things like this,the V for V music,
how to access V for Vmusic and 45 and 46.
And then finallywhere we are
at this momentwith V for V music,
with video,with podcasting to produce
statistics and with text.
And so that kind of filled
out the rest of this and,
and some other little bitssuch as like
the incentives of hosting
(04:15):
and mini case examplesthat I've done.
So those quitea few things.
This was just to sayas a reminder,
all of this only worksbecause of RSS.
Bitcoinand values for value
and how they interactand merge together.
So that the interestingthing about
this is I suppose
I didn'tget too deep into it,
but you know,these are not affected by
(04:37):
external things.
So the whimsof technology.
So I for example,that's not going to make
RSS obsolete.
If anything, I creationsare going to
make their wayinto the mechanism, the,
the distribution mechanismthat is RSS
are the economic decisionsof anyone government.
So this is where,you know, money printed
(04:59):
go brr In some countriesthis is where,
you know, fiscalthings are happening,
money is getting debased.
You know, peopleare feeling inflation
costs are risingand things like this.
None of thatreally matters to Bitcoin.
So which is why, okay,we're layering this in
on top of the distribution
and then we have the kindof cultural sways of
what is hot or not
(05:19):
and who is oppressedand cancel culture
and what's going to goto happen here.
And you know this person.
So the bad thing onceagain, value for value
is a isa countermeasure to that
because you're not relyingon one sponsor, which is
very much influencedby the whims of the crowd
or the mob or a advertiseor even a suite of of
(05:44):
of social appswhich will kick you off
if you do or don't saya certain thing.
So that's pretty muchwhat we covered in
in all of this. Why?
Why it's important to have
RSS, why it's importantto have Bitcoin
on top of this,
and then why valuefor value
is the kind of trifecta
and the merging of thesethree three things.
(06:04):
So that's,I suppose, what I tried
to convey here in seasonthree, my value for value
vision of the future.
So that that's very muchI kind of,
I guess like the pastleading up to the present.
What, what do I thinkis coming for the future?
So I kind of want to paint
a picture
here of a combiningof all digital mediums.
So the,
the ability to createis only ever expanding.
(06:28):
And so creating
an amazing image,
which a lot of peopleare now able
to do through thingslike Mid Journey
and then just posting it
on Instagram,
I just don't thinkis going to cut it.
So what do I kind of seehappening for the fur
for the future?
Well, RSS, for example,
all of
the current platformsI believe, are so limiting
(06:48):
for collaboration.
So sure, you can have somepeople where it's like,
I put my music on Tik Tokand then a girl can dance
to this music and create aan interesting thing.
But all of these kindof platforms that exist
for distributionof, of digital content.
So I'm really thinking
of the social platformshere.
(07:09):
I just they don't playnicely with each other.
And I was talking about
this recently in
one of the recent episodesabout how
if I wantedto have a short video,
I had to go individually
and post iton each platform.
And that's because,
once again, advertising
is this kind of thing
that just lays downand creates all of these
weird incentives.
So I think RSS actually
(07:31):
allows fora lot more collaboration.
And I think we're goingto really see this
with a merging ofof these digital mediums
where people who are moreexpertise in text
can combine with someone
who is more expertisein audio.
And how is this goingto work?
Well,I think the incentives
to work together areactually going to align.
(07:53):
So this is where it comesto, to Bitcoin
and all of these old onesthat there was
there was no incentive
to work together
becausehow can you get paid
and then how can you know,
there'sgoing to get a split?
So, sure, you can geta little token on on
tik-tok of an ice creamemoji or things like this.
Same thing on on YouTubewhere sure,
(08:16):
you can get some money,but you know, it's
only go into one account,
you're not ableto split it up
even if you've got another
person on your showand things like this.
This is where we really
getting into the nutsand bolts of,
okay, if it's direct,peer to peer,
and if you can createsplits,
it just takes awayso much bullshit,
takes away the middleman,
and it has theseincentives where, Oh,
(08:39):
okay, I'm actuallyputting my work out here
and I don't have to.
I can focus completelyand solely on the art
of what I'm creating
for an amazing experiencefor my audience.
And then I can just get
distribute, I can get paidfor that via
that by my audience.
It's a it's so much moreof a direct interaction.
(09:01):
I think the incentivesmake it
so that you are goingto create better art,
you're going to create.
And when I say art,
I'm really encompassingeverything here.
I'm including podcasts,I'm including text,
I'm including videos, I'mincluding,
you know, music, I'mincluding pictures.
I'm includingwhatever it is
that you can imaginethat you want to create.
(09:22):
It's it'sjust being able to do that
and then having peopledirectly be able to
reward you for that
without having to do
all this bullshitwith advertising,
which once againis getting onto the value
for value portion.
I really just thinkadvertising
is going to shrivelwith direct
peer to peer payments.
It just everything linesup and makes it so that
(09:43):
there's there'sno incentives to have
advertising or well,like the incentives,
advertising for me alwaysseems like a workaround.
It always seems like a
indirect way of monetising
your audience,which is what it is.
You know, it's it's
not like advertisingadvertisers are paying you
just because they reallywant to put this thing on
(10:04):
your show.
It's like,Oh yeah, it's going
to make a better showif I have a
if if I have an adfor mattresses in there.
This is
this is what I reallythink is going to happen.
No, they're doing itso that their audience
can pay themand then they can pay you.
So what would happenif you can
your audiencecan just pay you.
It justmakes so much more sense.
So this is where I reallythink my my V4 vision
(10:27):
of the future is.
It's it'sjust going to take away.
People are getting sickof dealing with what
one hearing advertiseson the podcast.
I'm absolutelycertain of that.
But once again,I think this is moving
beyond just podcastingand is going to
a value for value
expanding out into all ofthese digital mediums.
(10:49):
And so you might say like.CORIN, you know what?
What would you smokeand you smoking crack.
Yeah, And no, no, becauseit's already happening.
So let me list offa couple examples.
We have
McCormack, who is the host
of the AmericaPlus podcast.
He is creating his he'svery much a visual person
by natureand a videographer
(11:09):
who just happensto have created a podcast,
and he's creating a film
called Magic MushroomFun Time.
And what he's going to do
is he's going to put valuefor value
music in and his selectedthree songs,
and these are going to be
core to,I guess, the experience
that he's creating.
He's using a mixture of,I believe,
like in real lifefilming of, of him
(11:30):
and his girlfriendand visuals created
through mid Journeyto create a video.
And then he's goingto blend this all together
and hopefully he'll maybewith my help, be able
to figure outhow to create this into a
into a video podcastto then enable payments
to be ableto go out to the value
(11:51):
for value musicianswho are used,
and that to
himself and his girlfriend
who acted in it,maybe into me
if I help him outwith all of this.
So it's like, okay,
well this is where videois starting to emerge.
And withaudio and voice of music,
we havethe behind the schemes.
I've talked about thispodcast a couple of times.
They are the most wacky,craziest podcast
(12:11):
experienceyou will ever see.
And that was this one timewhere I remember
they were creatingGIFs or GIFs.
How have you pronouncedthat,
to put itin the chapter Art.
So essentiallywhen you are listening
to the podcast,
you are kind of actuallygetting a video experience
in a much smallercompressed format
becausethey were using GIFs
(12:32):
and when one chapterfinished,
the next one would startand then
the next gif would start.
So they were ableto kind of create
a little video here.
Once again, it's it'sdifferent. It's not.
It's a different medium.
What they're doing overthere was once again
they're putting music
and value for value ableand the wolf, the first
V for V musiciansto create a full album
(12:54):
dedicated to and utilisingall the the technology
that was availableat the time.
So this was roughly twoyears ago and Christmas,
the album was created by
peoplewho enjoyed their music
or who wanted to helpcontribute
to what they were doingand they got a split.
(13:15):
So once again,okay, now we're seeing
people who are much betterat more the visual art,
being able to interactwith the musician
and once againkind of get paid for it.
We see Dred Scott, someonewho maybe doesn't have
particular skillsin videography or audio
or who is not particularlya creative themself.
He he's creating chaptersfor multiple shows
(13:37):
in the post-productionstage,
and he's adding his ownspin into the art
to be able to createsomething
that is different,that is new,
that is valuable,and he is also
getting rewarded for it.
Okay, Well,now we're seeing people
who maybe onon the highest end of
the creativity spectrum.
And I very much put myselfon that as well,
being ableto help contribute
(13:59):
and participatein in a digital medium.
Let's look at the doleful
so into the doleful verse.
This is a
a familyof of ten brothers
and one sisteror nine brothers
and one
sister of ten of ten kidswho are musicians.
It's like the epitomeof what I imagine
like the rural SouthAmerica to be.
(14:21):
And they've createda podcast together
to showcase the music,to talk
about what they were doingwith their music.
They play live musicon this podcast.
I can boost into it,
and it's a way for themto hike,
highlight, to showcase
what is going on
with all of their
old catalogue
and bring it
into this new medium,into this new world,
(14:43):
because they're
sick of Spotifyand they're sick of the
what they would call
the exploitivenature of it,
whereyou put your music up
and you get nothingin reward
or you get a pittancelike a tool from Spotify.
Here is somemoney in my spit. Take it.
We have textcommenting of listeners.
(15:03):
Once again it's peopleproduce as of a show
appearing as chaptersfor crowdsourced info.
I participatedin this myself where Adam
and Dave on podcasting
2.3 were saying somethingabout one of my shows
and I was like, Oh,it's not exactly right.
I sent in a boost in
at that time
so that when people are
listening in,
(15:23):
if they happento check out their app,
they will see, Oh, COD
can't actually senda message here
clarifyingwhat they were saying.
And then we had who wasI think it was Chad.
If being able to then
boostand after that and see
say kind of like,oh, I see your message.
Thank you for that kind.
There'sso much kind of cool stuff
going on whereeveryone can participate.
(15:44):
Once again, this
this ability
for digital mediumsto all merge and together.
And I very much imaginethat in five years time
there is going to be
a word for whateverthe hell is going on here.
I don't know what it isgoing to be,
but very much in the samethat podcasting was
a completely new wayto access audio
(16:07):
in a different formatthat was on demand
that was not througha radio station.
I very much think thatwe're
creating something herewhich will be
of a similar magnitude,maybe even bigger.
Who knows where
in five, ten years timeit's going to be like,
What the hell is thisthing?
This is completelydifferent.
(16:27):
V for the musicis an example of this.
Maybe it will be that. But
now Ihad this recent chat on
the models with this guycalled Alexander Watson up
and he's an artist.
He creates things,
but he creates itthrough code
and so he puts this codeonto a blockchain.
And then this interactswith how
with people,
(16:48):
when they interactwith the art,
they can actuallyparticipate in it.
And he had this examplewhere it was,
you know, imagine if youhad a Picasso painting
and you were able to add astroke to it yourself
whilstit still retained the
appearanceand the recognition
of everyone ofbeing a Picasso painting.
(17:08):
So you addingit has not defaced it,
you've actually addedto the art yourself
that is a extremely hugedraw.
And in this contextwe were talking about
being able to do this
via blockchain and,and you know,
as you are
participatingwith the art,
you get to choose
what is actually
being created
and this will affect
the kind of whole setof of the code that is.
(17:31):
And thecode allows for this.
And I think there's a very
similar parallelto what's going on here
with, with
everythingthat we're doing
value for value,podcasting and music and
and text and videoand things like this.
It's addingthat interactive element
from the audiencewhere, you know,
I'm kind of doing it nowvia Boostagrams.
(17:52):
I read out your boost
agramsand I very much thank you
for those messagesthat you coming in.
What if you can do it withI suppose my guidance
I don't want you
just coming in and rushing
and completelytaking over the show.
But what if you havethe creativity to add
to the show,much like Drebb has done?
Much like the Doerfels aredoing with their music,
(18:13):
much like Ableand the Wolf did with the
the artists coming in
and creating
chapter art,much like Cole
is doing with valuefor value music.
There's just so many ways
to collaborate,to participate.
And it's it's not limited.
We're taking downthe barriers
and it's it's amazing.
It's so, so cool.
Which gets onto
the final portion ofthis is I'm my,
(18:36):
I suppose, value for valuevision of the future.
I it's I thinkit's an adding to the pie.
It's not necessarily
going to take awayfrom advertising or
paywallsor things like that.
Those certainlystill will exist.
But I do want to givea reminder.
Okay, let's look
at what's happenedto completely new radical
(18:57):
distribution methodsof digital content.
And we'll just takeradio here, digital
newspapers and even TV.
I believe that advertisinghas made them all trash.
They are listening to
the radionow is impossible for me.
Newspapers,if you want to look
(19:17):
at something online,you know,
try looking at a Forbesarticle
and you will get hit witha paywall immediately.
TV is just a cesspool ofwhat is it?
Probably like 12 minutesto every
for every 30 minutesof programming.
12 minutes of it is ads.
And it's like,
how can we
get more of thisinto their
(19:37):
they kind of proudof being able
to put12 minutes of ads in.
It's like,are you kidding this?
I've heard advertisers
talking abouthow it's it's amazing job
that they've been ableto do that.
And in this case it'susually like
a digital marketing showtalking about monetisation
or somebullshit. And it's just
(19:58):
look, I think we'reat the dawn of a new age.
I'm not the typefor hyperbolic.
I'm very much a calm,rational person, but
value for value.
There's a reason I createdthe value for value show
and I truly believe
we're going to seean unbelievable
explosion of creativitybrought about
by the combination
of RSS Bitcoinand value for value. And
(20:20):
I, I don't know what'sgoing to come from this,
but I'm excited.
I think it's just
even just value for valuemusic is not my socks off
and is consuminglarge portions of my time.
Literally just now.
Before this,
I was listening
to a new show calledUpbeat by Salty Crayon
and it's another additionto this twist
(20:40):
of creativity, of peoplesharing, collaborating and
just creatinga new medium.
I Yeah, I'll leave itat that.
It's just so slow down.Cool.
And I love it.
So I do want to thanksome people
on this lastepisode of Season four.
(21:01):
Welcome to the Value
for Value Instagram
and we've got a couple ofboosts in.
I saw Sam Sethi is
listening into the live.
Thank you very muchfor that, Sam.
I was going to mentionI am live
with all of these.
There will be a new timingfor this
(21:23):
coming up in the future,
which should beon a monday
instead of a Wednesdayfor myself.
So just a little highlightfor that,
but a couple of booststhat we come in here
and there from someclassic supporters.
We have Macintoshand he says,
Sorry, it's been a bitI'm overwhelmed.
I overwhelmedmy Fountain app
and couldn'tget in it for over a week.
Great episode 40 to 4242Sat-Sun using Fountain.
(21:47):
So that's a
double boost from him
because he normally sendsin a 2121
because he is
the host of the Generation
Bitcoin podcastand 21 is a very
special number for them.
So thank you verymuch for that. Macintosh
fountain was coming outwith the it's 1.0 release
and so
any issues
that you've been having
with that,
I know I've been having
(22:08):
some of myselfjust with them
crashingshould be resolved
very soon, so just stickwith it, my friend.
We have another one herefrom who else?
Michael McCormack,host of America Plus.
And he saysvideo is necessary
because we are visualcreatures.
There has to bea different way
to host
distribute video.I'm sure there is
a new solutionaround the corner.
3333 sets itusing fountain as well.
(22:30):
Very muchthank you call for the
the lucky threes thereonce again
he'll be distributingmagic mushroom fun time on
Christmas of this year
so I know he's definitelygoing to put it up on
Twitter and expand Maybeas a as a podcast itself.
We'll just have to seewith that.
But very much worthchecking in
and tuning into his podcast as well to
(22:51):
to hear more about that.
And then the finalone here
we had from a column owner
and he says,I love your podcast
a thousand sets once againsent using Fountain
column owner once again.
So Libra,
host of the LightningThrashers podcast,
I should just make sure.
Yes. LightningThrashers podcast,
which is a metal Vfor the music podcast.
(23:13):
So if you feel likeyou know this VP of music,
they're just playingpop songs
or they're not playinganything
that I specifically love,well,
there's a metal podcastfor you to tune into.
You know,
we're starting to getinto the neat stuff here,
so this is so cool,so gratifying,
so appreciating.
Thank you ever and forfor really joining in
(23:34):
and helpingto support the show.
It it does make a big,big difference to
to myself
to be able to host thisto receive these messages.
That's the most importantthing to know
that people are listeningand it's helpful.
And we even gota live on here
so slowly vis a visthe future
of all payments,lightning, thrashers,
lightning emoji,I don't know what that is.
(23:55):
The emojiwhere it's like the pinky
and the point of finger
pointed up Rock on 3333sent using pod.
Thank you, Coleman.
Very,very much appreciated.
Go check outlightning crashes
is my recommendation.
Okay.
We're going to get into
my tip section hereand I eat my own dog food.
So everything that
(24:16):
I've talked about on here,you send me everything
that I've highlighted.
It's it's it'ssomething that I've used.
I've tuned into all of these shows.
I've played aroundwith all of these apps.
And I
very much appreciate when
I'm this isan educational show.
I'm doing thisto try and help
newcomers to perhaps
(24:37):
even peoplewho are already
well aware of whatvalue for value
is to unlock a new niche,
to think about somethingdifferent, to highlight
what I think isis really happening here
and what's importantabout it.
And allI just want to know
is coming up
to this next seasonto season four is
how can I make this showbetter?
What do you want to hear?
What things that you thinkI'm missing about or not
(25:00):
talking about valuefor value related and
my current plan atthe moment is that I will
I've got I've been reading
quite a few books
about technologyand how they change
the world,especially digital stuff.
So when I'm thinking of
this, I'mthinking of things like
Common is Air by LouisHeid, which is all about
(25:22):
IP and how it's it'snot actually that helpful
and stifles creativity.
I'm thinking of like booksabout Neil Postman
Amusing Ourselvesto Death,
where he was talking aboutwhy he believes that TV
is is actually a
kind of trash, and helinks this to advertising.
Funnily enough,which is very relevant
(25:44):
to this show.
I'm thinking about books
like The Long Tailby Chris Anderson,
and he was really focusing
on what happenedwith Napster and music
and that explosionof creativity
that was unlocked,of people being able
to access musicin this long tail.
So what I was thinking offor season
four was highlighting
some particular pointson these.
(26:06):
I wouldn't call itphilosophical.
It's more it'smore technological,
I guess is whatI was roughly thinking.
So the episodewould be based around
a particulartopic on, okay,
what happenswhen distribution mediums
get unlockedand what happens
when collaboration is madeeasier?
What happens when
the abilityto send micropayments
(26:27):
or to have direct peerto peer payments occurs?
So that is generallywhat I'm thinking.
But once again, I want toto hear your thoughts.
And I mightadd, might if blueberry is
got it sorted by then.
I know Todd isis working on it.
I might even be ableto start highlighting
something too,being playing around
(26:48):
with value for value musicand putting in a split
and being able to do itlive and things like this.
So that's,that's kind of what
I'm planning forfor season four.
But once again,
tips,please give me your tips
on on howI can improve the show.
So season four,I think I'll start in
about a month or so.
Yeah, I've been undera bit of stress recently,
(27:09):
so I would have likedto have started it soon,
but I definitely thinkI need a break.
So that will I'll be backfor sure
and I'll be back soonerrather than later.
And I'm not going to takeanother huge break
like I did between seasonone and season
two and seasontwo and season three.
So yeah, that'sthat's very much what I
am planning for that.
My app and servicehighlight,
(27:30):
if you haven't done it,
I really,really do recommend
going on to podcastindex dot org slash apps.
So this is the place
where you'll have heardall of this
many times beforebecause people are saying
go to new podcast appsor podcast app WSJ.com.
This is where you'reactually going,
this is where it'sgetting linked to
and if you haven't doneit, it's worth
just checking outeverything
(27:51):
that is on here.
So, you know,it says supporting apps,
directoriesand hosting companies.
And we've got POD fansright at the top
that Sam is talking about
and it's it's orderedby the amount of tags
and thingsthat each one supports.
But it's worthjust going in
here and going,okay, look,
we've got POD fans,a completely new
progressive web appslash hosting thing
(28:14):
hosting for or abilityfor podcasts to add
extra bits to their feed,which is because
their hosts arenot particularly playing.
The hosts arenot at the cutting edge
of technology,let's put it that way.
So we've got that.
We've got sovereign feeds,which is semi hosting
and allows you to createyour own feed blueberry.
(28:37):
Just beneath that,once again,
another hosting
a hosting companythat is well on board
and at the topof this list
and hence whyI am using it for this
very showand why I'm moving
one of my other showsover to their
Got Podcast Guru,another app.
We've gotjust so many things.
RSS Bluejust added the ability
for value for valuemusic and musicians.
(29:00):
Sorry,this is more for people
who want to play value
for value music
to be able
to create time splitsand I'm sure they
do hosting as wellfor for music.
We've got pitches by talksabout that
in one ofthe recent episodes.
So this is being ableto do value
for value paymentsin a video platform.
A host of apps,we've got Standard
(29:22):
FM, This is where you cancreate transcripts
kind of withinthe app and be able to
create things like that.
We've got land beats,which is where you can
play all this valuefor value music.
So it's a music app.
The split kittransistor dystopia,
there's just podcastchapters.
It's just hard,many things going on here.
It's absolutely insanehow much interconnected
(29:46):
weaving of specificstuff is on here.
It truly is mind blowing.
So if you think I'm,you know, I'm
I'm kind of hyping it up.
TIME Where is value for
why isn't valuefor value on Spotify?
Why aren't thesebig companies doing it?
They're going to takea while.
It's it's just the natureof the beast.
(30:06):
But there's so much stuffhere now where it's like,
you don't even need those.
Like,
I haven't used Spotifyfor a long, long time
because all of these appsthat I'm using
are just better.
They arejust truly better. And
it takes a whilefor people to find out
just how much betterthey are.
(30:27):
So that is my appand service highlight.
Please check outpodcast apps
dot comand you'll see some very,
very cool,
very interestingthings there
which you can play aroundwith not just for the
a podcasting app
but for all of these
other abilities to createand do interesting things
with transcripts,with the services,
(30:47):
with all sorts of stuff.Incredible.
So I'm going towrap it up here
and with my valuefor value section
as usual,
I'm going to give 15%to someone
and I'm going to give it
to the podcastindex themselves.
So the visionarieswho started this project
to combine RSS Bitcoinand value for value,
you know, Adam and Dave
(31:08):
that look,
Adam's a visionary
for helpingto create podcasting,
so he's already, he'salready got the chops.
Dave is just a wonderfulhuman being.
And these two guys whojust started this thing,
what, three years agoroughly, and
look where we arenow, there's
so much creativity,
so much awesome,amazing things going on.
(31:29):
And they deserveall the recognition they,
you know, as muchas podcasting to an hour
it probably will be andvalue for value as well.
Adam came up with the term
John C Dvorak on his showon the recent
models episode whereI had a chat with him.
He was already sayinglike, you know,
people are saying valuefor value of the TV
(31:49):
without realising
the origin of the term,
which is showcasingjust how broad scale
and how far outit's going.
So it's super amazingand they really do deserve
all the props and,
and for what they're doing
and what they're creating,it's so amazing.
So I'm going to end ithere once again.
Time, talent and treasure.
(32:10):
This is the valuefor Value podcast.
These are the three things
that help this podcasttick along.
Pleasejust share an episode
with a digital creator.
That's that'swhat all I ask for
you for, for this episode.
If you know a musicianwho is struggling
and not enjoying Spotify,
send them to the Valuefor Value podcast
or to somewhere
(32:30):
where you believethat it will help them to
to understandwhat is going on.
And that's all I ask.
And if you know someone
who is interestedin these things,
it's going to it has tostart with the creators
and letting their audienceknow, Hey,
you can come support mehere.
So if you know someonewho is like that,
(32:51):
please share the showwith them or
or even any of the other
resourcesI've talked about.
Once again,this is educational.
I want you to just
create the best thing,
do the best thing forfor someone who is showing
an interestin wanting to learn
so very muchwould be appreciate
if you could do that
talentI've already listed off.
How can I make the showbetter?
(33:11):
What do you want to hear?What is missing?
Any bookrecommendations for?
I was talking aboutwith those ideas
about technologyand how that's going,
how that has changed andaltered altered things.
Please send them to me.
I want to hear them.
And thenfinally, treasure.
We've seen quitea few people
bursting into this show,listening in live, and
(33:32):
you can do thison the new podcast app.
I just listed it offbefore the age
that I covered in
my highlighting sectionwere Let's
see if I can do this offthe top of my head.
Fountain pod vers curacosta
pod fanscosta matic breeze
podcast guru.
And there's one more.
(33:54):
I'll bring it up quicklyright now so I don't
leave that last one out
and the last one there,while you can do it
on the podcastindex website as well.
And then pod friendof course almost, almost
missedMartin's app at the end.
You can also do this
on the podcastindex website
or you can do thisdirectly to me
(34:14):
if you go to me and modelspodcast dot com.
I've got a video thereshowcasing how to use
the new apps.
I've got an explanationof a text,
explanation of everythingthat's going on.
I've even got a little
lightning addressthere for someone
who's absolutely
new, has no ideawhat Bitcoin lightning is.
All those things.
If you copy that in link,it'll give you a,
(34:36):
a highlight ofof how to do that.
And I think I put 2000stats on there
if you want to trythat out as well.
So lots of thingsyou can do lots of stuff
to play around with
and I very much doappreciate it when you
burst into the show
and not only show
your support,
but give me some contentfor the
the next episodes,the next season.
And yeah,well, I'll be back soon to
(34:58):
read those out.
Thank you everyone,for joining me to
to the end of the season.
It was another fantastic
learning experiencefor me,
going live,
trying out
all these things,
and I really do hopethat I've
have helped to enlightenand to
to help some people out.
That's that'swhy I'm doing this.
So we'll leave it therefor today.
And until shortly.
(35:19):
Chao for now, Kyrin out.
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