March 3, 2024 • 40 mins
From the past we shall learn our future .... and it's full of exciting art! In Ep#57 we're going to do a recap of all the previous seasons, find out what Season 4 has in store for us & learn about the 3 collaborators who will be providing art.
Huge thanks to Sircussmedia, McIntosh, Cole McCormick & Kolomona for supporting the show (plus everyone streaming as well). Check out their podcasts!
40% of this episode is going to Cole, Sven, The Doerfels and the app developers who make this all possible.
Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(1:32) - Season Recap & Looking Forward
(5:26) - Cole McCormick - VA/Podcaster/V4V Director
(7:22) - Quote 1
(9:02) - Sven - Graphic Artist
(10:32) - The Doerfels - Musicians
(13:07) - Boostagram Lounge
(19:57) - Latest Developments
(27:12) - Why Bitcoin
(29:41) - V4V: Time/Talent/Treasure
(35:37) - Bloodshot Lies - The Doerfels
Value 4 Value Support:
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Connect With Kyrin/Mere Mortals:
Website: https://www.meremortalspodcast.com/
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Connect With My V4V Collaborators:
Cole: https://twitter.com/colemccormick1
Sven: https://twitter.com/StarfuryFlames
The Doerfels: https://www.doerfelverse.com/
Bloodshot Lies: https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6473218
Huge thanks to Sircussmedia, McIntosh, Cole McCormick & Kolomona for supporting the show (plus everyone streaming as well). Check out their podcasts!
40% of this episode is going to Cole, Sven, The Doerfels and the app developers who make this all possible.
Timeline:
(0:00) - Intro
(1:32) - Season Recap & Looking Forward
(5:26) - Cole McCormick - VA/Podcaster/V4V Director
(7:22) - Quote 1
(9:02) - Sven - Graphic Artist
(10:32) - The Doerfels - Musicians
(13:07) - Boostagram Lounge
(19:57) - Latest Developments
(27:12) - Why Bitcoin
(29:41) - V4V: Time/Talent/Treasure
(35:37) - Bloodshot Lies - The Doerfels
Value 4 Value Support:
Boostagram: https://www.meremortalspodcast.com/support
Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/meremortalspodcast
Connect With Kyrin/Mere Mortals:
Website: https://www.meremortalspodcast.com/
Discord: https://discord.gg/jjfq9eGReU
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/meremortalspods
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meremortalspodcasts/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@meremortalspodcasts
Connect With My V4V Collaborators:
Cole: https://twitter.com/colemccormick1
Sven: https://twitter.com/StarfuryFlames
The Doerfels: https://www.doerfelverse.com/
Bloodshot Lies: https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6473218
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Kyrin Down (00:00):
From the past We shall learn our future.
And it'sfull of exciting art.
It's.
yes. Welcome,everyone, to the
(00:20):
fourth season of the Valuefor Value podcast.
My name is Kyrinand I am the host
of The Mere Mortals,Mere Mortals
Book Reviewsand also this podcast,
which is for digitalcontent creators.
We want to connect deeperwith the audience
and don't want to do iton the normal mechanisms
that you wouldperhaps do it through,
you know,
PayPal and Spotifyand putting up ads
(00:41):
and all thissort of thing.
No, this is for how you
can directly connectwith your audience
and using thisthrough the exciting
new modelmethod of value for value.
So it's been a while.
I'm hereon the 4th of March 2024.
I did promisethat I would be back
much sooner than this,and I obviously was
(01:02):
very incorrect about thatand you hear a bit
more about thatat the end of the podcast.
So just stay tunedfor that.
I'm going to go today
as is basically kind oflike a recap episode
of everything we coveredin the first three season.
What's coming upfor season four?
A little
look at perhapssome collaborators
that I'm working withfor this season,
and then just some stuffat the end
(01:24):
related to the BoostaGram Lounge.
Latest developmentsin podcasting 2.0.
Why Value for value?
Essentially all of thesesorts of things.
So let's just jump into,I suppose, a recap.
Recapand what the focus for
this seasonis going to be.
So season one was allabout the philosophy.
So I had episodes likeThe Value of Tough Love,
(01:44):
Why Freeze and FreeThings like This?
And it was really just
trying to explainnot only for the
for you at home,the viewer,
the listener,but for myself,
what exactly makes upvalue for value?
And it's inits core principles.
So that's alwaysthe season.
I kind of recommend forsomeone who wants to know.
Just like the deeperunderlying things,
(02:04):
Season twowas really focussed
about podcastingand podcasters
and how they wereimplementing value
for value in their shows.
And this is where we seeit was a mix of techniques
of how to ask, of
implementing
different strategiesof gamification,
of all of thesesorts of things.
And then we came onto season three
and that culminatedin my book
(02:26):
Reviews Channel
where I really tried toexplain as best as I could
how I was implementingeverything I'd learned
from everyone else.
Season three was much moreon the technical focus,
so we were lookingat technical developments.
I was really explaining
how I thoughtthe combination
of RSS, v4 V and BTC,the three acronyms
worked perfectly togetherand they worked perfectly
(02:48):
because they had a bunch
of shared propertiesself-sovereign ity
of being permissionlessof value transfer
and permissionlessto anyone to to want to,
to join access,all of these sorts of
wonderful things.
So that was,I suppose I looking at
technical things as well,
and we started to talk
(03:08):
a little bit
about some of the excitingthings
going onwith related to blogging
and how it could work.
And with that
especially a valuefor value music,
which I covered a coupleof times over there.
So season four,
what are we going to doin season four?
Well,
this is all about trying
to take a historicallook at trends
to see where we're going.
Referencing what I said
right at the startthere from the past,
(03:29):
we shall learn our future
and it's fullof exciting art.
So what
I have really been doing
over these
last three monthssince I've been away
is I've been readingquite a few books
and in particular onthe book Reviews channel.
I usually tend to focus on
older books, on classics.
So things you know
from written at least20 years ago or longer.
(03:49):
And I did do somethinga little bit different
with some of the bookreviews,
which I was I was readingmuch more modern book.
So bookspublished within the last,
you know, five, ten years.
And these would be thingslike The Inevitable
by Kevin Kelly of Freeby Chris Anderson,
The Long Tail by ChrisAnderson
Colemanis there by Lewis Hyde.
(04:10):
And the book was By orI've forgotten his name,
John B Thomson, I believe.
And this was all
just so I could really get
an idea of what'sgoing to happen with
the future of,of publishing of
of contentjust in general.
So musicobviously book was
that was all aboutthe e-book,
the e-book
(04:30):
and the publishingindustry, how that changed
and technological trends
and thingsgoing like that.
And with all of thesetrends,
I was just noticinga common theme occurring,
which is that thingsare going to change.
There's there's definitelygoing to be change.
No, Spotify is not goingto stay
the way it is
and just be like thisfor the next 20 years,
(04:51):
that that'snot how technology works.
And I think
a lot of these thingsare indicating
that we're going towards a
a more open future, a more
a future fullof collaboration of
actually usingwhat I talked about
before, before the RSS andand Bitcoin
and how they all mergetogether.
Now, what we're also
(05:12):
going to be doingthis season is
and distinguishingthe season
as I'm going to bedoing some collaborations.
So this is going to be,
I suppose, a fun,exciting new thing for me.
You have already hearda little bit of it
right at the start there,which was some music,
but I also have threepeople who I just want to
to call out and say,
you'll be hearing
or seeing partsof their work,
(05:32):
their voices,their their art
through that throughoutthis coming season.
And so the first oneI've got here is Mr.
Cole McCormick, who is ahow would I describe Cole?
So he does many differentthings.
He's a v4v director.
So he put out what I think
is one of the first films
directly created withthe value for value model
(05:54):
in mind of
putting this out
as a film,
monetising solelythrough that of
including peoplein the splits.
And you can find this
this short filmthat he created
called Magic
Mushroom Fun
time on any of your
podcasting appsbecause it is a video
that was distributedthroughout RSS
and Colehas been working with me
(06:15):
on the BookReviews channel
for about the last twoor three months
and we were doingsome quotes together
and I might talk aboutthis a little bit later
about how the modelhas to change
dependingon your audience.
And and I've found someinteresting things
related to that, to theto the book reviews.
But Cole has been doingsome quotes for me
(06:35):
because whatI was finding was
I was doing these
book reviews
and then
I tryand read them out myself
and I
just stumble over my wordslike, I'm
not that greatat sticking to the line.
I haven't doneany acting classes per se,
or if I have,I definitely didn't
enjoy them and stuckaround with them.
So he's been
helping me out with that
and what I'm going to
get him to do
and what he's agreed to dowith me
(06:56):
is to to takesome of these book quotes
from all of these booksthat I was reading,
talking about the pastand how
technology has changedand how it has moved
certain industriesin certain directions.
And he's going to behelping me out with that.
So he's
going to be providingsome quotes
from these books
and I'm going to beusing them
to form an argument
of of why I think valuefor value as a future.
(07:18):
And that is the
the trendthat we're going towards
just so you can geta taste of his voice.
I took this one.
This is one of the
favourite quotesthat I got him to do,
and this was from
which book was
The Winter of Discontentby John Steinbeck.
And so here's just alittle taste of of Cole's
great voiceacting abilities.
And we might notget the funniness of this
(07:40):
because it'll probably bea bit more dry and the,
the content I'mgetting him to read out
will be a bit not,not as intriguing
as this, but nevertheless,here's a taste of it.
Cole McCormick (07:50):
What a wonderful thing a woman is.
I can admire what they do,
even if I don't understand
why what Margieand Mary went
through their pleasantlitany.
What have you donewith your hair?
I like it.
That's your colour.
You should always wear it.
The harmless recognitionsignals of women.
I thought ofthe most feminine story
I ever heard.
(08:10):
Two women meet, one cries.
What have you donewith your hair?
It looks like a wig.
It is a wig.
Well, you'd never know it.
Maybe these are deeperresponses than we know
or have any right to know.
Kyrin Down (08:26):
Thank you, Cole.
Amazing.
And that was amazingbook as well.
I love John
Stone Steinbeckas a as an author.
So Cole, he also hasa podcast called America.
Plus,
if you want to hear moreabout him
and his his drawings,his learnings of
his waysof trying to find new ways
of communication,that's a really great,
great placeto to tune into him.
(08:47):
And he's also findable,I guess, searchable
on Twitterat Cole McCormick one.
So you want to connectwith Cole,
you'll you'll be hearing
and hearing hima lot more over these next
next couple of months.
Next,we're going on to a little
bit of a random one.
This is a guy called Sven,and I actually met him
(09:07):
at one of my localBitcoin meet ups.
And I remember he
he had a littlepresentation
where he was showingall of these
really cool gifts
that he was creatingand G.I.s s gifts.
And you'll see this nowin your chapter artwork.
If you're if you'retuning in after the fact,
if you're live with me
now, unfortunately,you can't do that.
PerhapsI will go on YouTube
(09:28):
at some point,
just so you can seethis as well,
becauseI'd be kind of fun.
But inany case, I spend has
created all of thesethings and I was like,
man, I just, you know,
how does someone like himmake money for
for creating giftsfor for doing things?
Like what?
And for him, it wasn't.
It was just a passionproject.
But I was like, you knowwhat? These are so cool.
(09:50):
I really love artwork.
I love the chapters of
putting all of these senseinto podcasting 2.0
and thankfullynow my my host
blueberry is up the limit
for what I can includeand so I can include gifts
now inin my chopped artwork.
So what you'll be seeing
is every now and thensome random little,
you know, Bitcoin things,
just to keep itinteresting,
especially if I'm onthe topic of bitcoin and,
(10:12):
and talking aboutwhy it's why it's helpful
and why it's
part of my value for valuephilosophy,
you'll see those arepopping up so well too.
Thanks Sven,very much for doing that.
He is in the splits,of course, as is Cole.
And if you want to findhim, he's also
searchable on Twitterat a Starfury Flames.
If you if you wantto connect more with him,
the final collaboration.
(10:33):
So we've got,you know, voice acting,
we've got the imageryand graphics.
We're going to havesome music. Nice.
So this is the doerfelswho is also
helping us out.
And you heard part of thevery song Bloodshot Lies,
which I'm going to beusing for the intro music
for for this season,
because man,it pumps me up.
I love that song. And
(10:56):
so the Doerfelsfor those who don't know,
are a bandbased out of Nashville,
and it's a band of fivebrothers, it's hard
to count five brothers,mom, dad and sister.
There'sthere's a lot of them.
And they've created
all of thismusic over the years.
They're not an active bandat this moment,
(11:18):
but they have this wholeback catalogue of music
and Sir TJ The Wrathful
TJ Doerfel
He heard about all of thisexciting stuff
going on with value
for valueand value for value music,
and he wasone of the first people
to truly stop
start uploading tracksand to
generatea bit of interest.
And in this valuefor value
music of people who have
(11:39):
created their musicand instead of, you know,
they had their shotand trying to do it
throughthe traditional methods
of the music industry,
of doing it
through Spotify,and they found that
it just didn'twork for them.
But they're having a kindof renaissance moment,
doing it again throughvalue for value music.
And so
you'll see now I've also
(11:59):
included the Dolefulas a as a split into this.
We'll be talkinga little bit more later
about the value of timesplits, what I can
and can't doat this very moment.
But nevertheless Willwill be playing some music
not only justfrom The Doerfels
but from other peoplethroughout this podcast,
and they will beparticipating in this
(12:19):
and helpingto collaborate with me.
And if you joininto the live stream
like Chad did beforeand I absolutely blasted
is is that because
I didn't have my levelsfully sorted out yet
which they will be,do not worry.
Then you'llalso be hearing
a lot of their music
because I'll be playingthem in my pre
stream and poststream music.
So once again,thank you for the dollars
(12:41):
if you want to find themdoleful verse dot com.
I know it's the placewhere
they're directing people
and that's spelt D O er f e l verse.COM
And then if you alsowanted to connect with t j
he's so t jthe wrathful on
the podcastindex Mastodon.
So that is,
(13:02):
I suppose my,
my collaborationis just a little bit
of what's going onfor this season
and I want to get intothe boostagram Lounge
now to thank some peoplefrom from the last episode
becauseit has been a while
and we do need to
call out some peopleand give some thanks.
So Mr. Adam Curry, canyou please take it away?
(13:22):
Welcometo the Value for Value
Boostagram Lounge.
Ooh, nice.
Thank you, Adam, forintroducing the Boosta
Gram Lounge.
So this is the sectionwhere I
give some call outs.
Thank some peoplewho have been helping to
to support the show in amonetary form, especially,
(13:44):
which I really,
really do advocate
doing itthrough booster grams,
which is where you cansend a message
directlywithin your podcasting app
and this will bein any good app.
So not all of them do it.
So placeslike Spotify and Apple
where they do not do it,but places like True Fans,
podcast, podcast gurucurio are going to breeze.
(14:06):
I'm trying to remember
medicall off the top of my head
Fountainobviously Pod friend
And is there one morethat I'm forgetting?
That could be.
But those,those are the main ones
at the very least.
And you can send a messagedirectly within the app.
It will comedirectly to me.
It will also come directly
to all the people I havein my splits,
(14:26):
which is very cool.
And this is all aboutcollaboration.
So, you know, 5%
I've allocated to going to
too many of these podcast
app developersto encourage them
to keep doingwhat they're doing.
I've got 15%going to call McCormack
because he's creatingthis music,
creating these the voiceacting clips for me
on the fly each week.
So he's having to puta bit of effort in
(14:46):
and then 10%is going to spend stuff
for your flamesand 10% is also going to
the doors as appreciationfor what they're doing.
So this is the plan,
the current set up thatI've got this read out.
Basically,I'm taking your time card.
So we have from November2nd, 20, 23,
that's a full three monthsago 2100 set sent
(15:09):
using fountainfrom McIntosh
and he says great seasonMacintosh to Macintosh
thank you very much
he is the host of theSatoshis Plebs podcast.
It's changed his namea couple of times.
He's appeared on on this
very podcastmultiple times,
each time with a new name.
So yeah.
Macintosh Thankyou very much, my friend.
And he's going to a greatBitcoin podcast.
(15:31):
If you want to knowmore about Muse and News
and the underlyingprecepts of of Bitcoin,
we have,
not only
is he appearing on herewith his crazy
voice acting, but he'shelping support the show.
We have comic, comic one,he says.
Long live value for value.
Onward to a new season,
get rested, recalibrate
the valueis all around you.
3333 sentusing fountain again.
(15:53):
Thank you, my friend.
Much much appreciated.
Yes. And I did restand recalibrate.
So I am feeling,you know, from
feeling actually sickat this very moment.
I'm doing pretty good.
Thank you man.
We have from Novembersix circus media.
And I I'm pretty surethis is circus as like sir
(16:15):
and then see you assessmedia as in he's no agenda
a night at the roundtable
and he saysinteresting explanation
in managingyour expectations
as a B for the producer.
One thing I thinkcame through, though
not explicitly,is the idea
of what you,the Creator, deserve.
That is a key difference
in V for you,the Creator does not
determinethe product value.
(16:36):
Very true. Thank you.
So whether you wereconsistent
in production or a one
and done is strictlya personal decision
and irrelevant
to the value of receivedin return
they would be wise tocontinue to.
Can you?
Sorry, this is why I getcold to read out things.
So stuff
I'm not thoughwould be wise
to continuepractising aircraft
to improveand increase our exposure.
(16:56):
One, two, 345sets sent using fountain.
Thank you very much.
Now what's great
now is nowthat the bitcoin price
has moved up tonearly 100 k Australian,
it's reallyeasy in my mind
to know how much peoplehave sent through.
And so
at this very moment,1000 sets
is about a dollar for me.
So that's,
you know, $12.34but is sent through there.
(17:19):
So thank you.
Thank you very much,my friend.
I very much appreciate it.
And yes, agreed the valuefor value model.
What I kind of describe itlike I describe Bitcoin,
which is on the surface,it's it's
extremely simple.
It's just it'sa decentralised money,
an internet money,a digital money.
You know,
what's the what'smore simple than that?
Value for value?Extremely simple.
(17:40):
I create a product
for free
and distributeit out to you,
and then you just return
some valuein some shape and form.
But then you get intothe weeds of like,
okay, if I createdin this particular manner,
you know,as a documentary,
how do I get peopleto know
that I do the valuefor value model
and get them
to return the valuefor what it's created
(18:01):
and I've seen a lot of
discussions about this,
and I think everyonehas to go on their own
individual path,
which iswhat makes it hard
value forvalue is is not a
like you said, like a oneand done type thing.
I think
even if you do that, it's
that you've got to createthe you've got
(18:22):
to create the base,the support,
the expectations ofthis is how it's done.
And I think that takesa long time to be honest.
So doing itas a one and done like one
movie and expectingvalue for value two
to work monetarilyand you be rich
and all those
sorts of things,
I don't think it reallyworks like that, but
that I, you know,that's what he said.
(18:44):
It kind of comes across.
I did see Sam Sethi,who was
streaming it a lot.
I do see a lot of my owntest booth
for this last season.
And I do see Chad,who was joining us live,
and he said
dolls in the preshow333 sets and using POD was
and then also awe do it live another 333.
(19:04):
So thank you very much,Chad.
Much appreciate it.
He's he's been sharingsome of the clips
and episodes of the value
for value show acrossdifferent mediums as well.
So I really do appreciatethat meant that
that that helps a lotand that helps a lot
and will be talkingabout value
for value in the waysyou can contribute back
shortly right atthe end of this episode.
(19:25):
So sorry.
There was one other
person who sent a messageand this was so bray.
I'm not sure I called itout on the last time,
but he said V for Vis a future of all payment
lightning crashes,and then he's got his his
was that rock emoji
and that was 3333sent using pot verse.
(19:47):
I might have calledthat out live.
If not, I didwant to talk about him
shortly because he's he's
doingsome interesting things
which are helping outmusicians.
So let's go into thissection here,
which is I suppose,
some of my latestdevelopments
and this is just keeping
you up to date withwhat's going on in the,
you know,
value for value world,some interesting concepts,
(20:10):
tests, proofs, ideasthat people are working on
and which are helpingcreators like myself
be able to monetise andconnect with the audience
at the same time.
So there's three things
I wanted to talk abouthere actually for Soledad.
So librariespoint in here.
So first one,
(20:30):
there's a new thingcoming out
called Fountain Radio.
If you go to
I think it's FountainRadio dot
if am, I probably shouldhave brought this up
beforehand.
Radio,radio dot, Fountain dot
FM is whatI wanted to call that.
And this is just a littlewebsite based thing they
(20:51):
created.
And it's essentiallylike a jukebox.
And you can,
you know,
pay to have your song
get put tothe top of the jukebox.
They've got a chat inthere as well.
It's not necessarilypeople.
They're all partsof the day.
It's kind of hardto actually know.
They don'thave timestamps, so
you're not sure exactly,
but it's worth going ontoand just playing around
(21:11):
and you're helpingto support musicians
when you're
uploading your favouritesongs in there.
And it's a great way tofind your music as well.
So Radio Dot,Fountain, Dot FM
is is
a great place for you to,to find new music and to,
to, tosend it back to them.
The next one I had here
was just a shout outto Blueberry
for implementingthe value time splits.
(21:33):
So how value time splitsfor those who don't know
is whenI as a podcast creator
can referenceanother piece of work
and all the donations
or a percentage of that,
a large percentage will goto the actual creator.
And this is essentially
how value for valuemusic is working.
So I'm going to playa song right at the end of
(21:55):
each episode.
And what will happen
is that when you'relistening to that
in a post hand,the the split,
instead of going,you know, 100% to the,
you know, 60% to meand then 50%, 50%
to call 10%to other people,
what's going to happenis it will switch
and I'll put it 90%to that musician with 10%
(22:19):
then going to to me
and the rest of the peoplewho are in my splits,
obviously that'sreducing it down a lot.
So they won't really begetting that much,
which is is kind of finebecause it's
it's musicthat that is being played.
Now. The cool thing forthis is
it's really taking offwith music
and that's
why you're seeing
all these value for valuemusic shows popping up.
(22:40):
And if you go on to
a place like Ellen Beats,which is a an app
which you can downloadonto your desktop
and I believeonto your phone,
if you go to musicshows there,
there's a wholebunch at the moment. I'll
stilldouble to read them out.
Also,I've got rolling on show
radio story on BrewsterGram Ball,
the side stream statsand sounds
(23:02):
VU for the podcastIt's a mood
the fairly fun show
black cat music podcastmixtape wave like Martin
made a music outside inwith Jemmy V
Lightning thrashesby column owner
so Lee Bright
upbeat Home-Grown hitsPhantom
power music outand before this games.
nice.
I might be addingmy own little one.
Probably not in the next
(23:22):
four months,but maybe after that.
I really think that wouldbe a fun thing to do.
And so whatthese V for the music
shows do, essentially
they will play music,they'll switch the, the,
the, the splitsto go to the musicians
while the music playing.
And then when they'retalking again
like a DJ, like aa V a VF veejay,
(23:43):
then the splits willgo back to them.
So what we're going to dois unfortunately we don't
have the ability to do itlive. Blueberry.
It doesn't do thatat this moment.
So what I will be doingis instead in
post ten, I'll be doingthe Valley time split.
So if you're listeningto this after the fact
and you're listeningto the music set section
(24:04):
segment, the splits,we go into there
to the musician.
Now what's also cool
is I'm going to do it,
for example,for that little piece
that call, righta red off.
I'm actually going to bedoing it for my own show
because that was taken
from one of the bookreviews.
So not only can you do itthrough music,
but you can also do it
through otherpieces of work.
So you could do it throughspoken word,
(24:26):
you could do itthrough audiobooks.
I know
there's there's some hints
that some peopleare thinking of doing some
some audio books
or perhaps even callwho I see in the chat.
And he sent through
1111 sites and he said,We are so back.
Yes, we are cool.
I know he even
he has been havingsome thoughts
of perhapsdoing some audio books
or some cartsor something like that.
(24:47):
So you could be ableto reference
not only music,but it could be, you know,
your favourite poem.
If someone has createdthat as a as a RSS feed
and you know, it's
in the public domainand things like that.
So very cool is excitingstuff going on with that
and you will be
noticing me implementingthat as best as I can.
(25:07):
The final oneI wanted to give
a shout out to was Home
who I think are doingreally cool things with
just thethe hosting for podcasts.
I don't know how
this guyhas got his whole set up,
but basicallyif you go over to him
at home, DotCole, help me out.
Cole is a podhome. Dot FM.
Let me quickly typein pot home dot FM. Yep.
(25:29):
And if you go there and
sign up, it'sjust a one time
like a one plan fee,which I believe is 15 U.S.
a month.
And he's even
got some promo codesand things like that.
And you can createas many podcasts
as you wantand put in all of these
sorry, 16, 1599 a month
(25:50):
and put
in all of theseexciting things
like chapterslike using value time.
So it's like being ableto go live.
I know Cole McCormickdoes that with his show
America Plus as well.
So lots of interesting,
cool thingsgoing on there.
And Ithink it's just worthy
shouting outthe hosts like Blueberry
who are
implementing thingsand and and Barry at home
(26:11):
for implementing
the tools that creatorslike myself want to use.
So super, super cool.
Finally there was ThunderRoad dot Media.
So if you are a musicianand you're wanting
to get started of using
puttingyour music up online
so that people can find itand so that,
(26:32):
you know, peoplelike myself can play it,
this is a great placefor you to go to
because hehe basically does
all of the work for you.
He he helps create it.
He takes a 3% share.
It's a it's a pretty goodpretty good service.
I haven't used it myself.
So I'm just using like
(26:54):
from what I seefrom the outside,
it looks likea pretty good service.
So he's definitely doing
some really cool thingsand I would recommend
people would go thereand try that
if you are a musician.
Thunder Road DotMedia is How to to type
that into your browserand find that
okay,the last section here is
(27:15):
just a little
section herejust just talking about
why I really encouragepeople to,
to use all of the coolnew technology.
And I had a chatwith this guy
called Trevor recently,and I did this on the Me
Models podcast
and Trevoris a pretty big v4v fan,
but he's nota Bitcoin fan.
And so he was just sayinglike,
(27:37):
you know,
I feel there's too muchemphasis being put on the
of doing all of thesethings through Bitcoin.
Like it's hard.
Peopledon't understand that
there's better optionsof doing it through PayPal
or Patreonor things like that.
And we had an interestingdiscussion.
What I personally wantto do though is is like
(27:59):
I said, this is more onthe cutting edge.
This is more meexperimenting
with new tools, newtechniques, new tactics
with the new technology.
And I think it justhas some very,
very superior benefitsthat whilst are difficult,
they're difficult.
Like the Internet wasdifficult back in 1995.
They're difficult likethe social media platforms
(28:21):
were in, you know, 2008.
It takes time to get usedto these things.
It takes timeto test them out.
And for a relativenewcomer to to
come in to them,
I can say in the lastthree years
they've gotten much,much better.
Sending a boosthas never been easier.
Getting some Bitcoinand Lightning Network
has never been easier.
(28:43):
It's still hard,
there's no doubt.
It's still
it's still a little
bit hard, butit is getting easier and
the thing is,
it just enablesso many more cool things.
The splits,it's programmable money.
I think it's just a
like it is a revolutionarything to
to be able to use
And so
that's why advocatesadvocate for it so hard.
(29:06):
And this is nothing to dowith Bitcoin itself
in termsof whether you think
it's a good investmentor anything like that.
No, this is just mesaying like,
I encourage youto use these things
because I think they aregoing to be the future and
I think it is worthwhile
playing aroundwith them now
and being able to connectwith with your
(29:26):
favourite creator,or if you're a creator,
being able to connectwith your audience
because it'snot just about the money,
it is aboutthe whole value for value,
respect the whole valuefor value philosophy.
So that gets me on tomy last little thing here.
Time, talent and treasure.
This is how you can helpsupport
this value for valueShow time
Sharing this episodewith a digital creator.
(29:49):
It would be amazingbecause this is the
type of peoplewho I really want
to try
and direct this towardsso that they can know
whether they bea musician,
whether they be a digitalartist like like Sven is,
whether they be a voiceactor,
whether, you know,whatever their art is,
whatever it is
that they're creatingand that can
(30:10):
be distributedin a physical medium,
sorry,in a digital medium.
I think this
this kind of philosophy
can can reach outto everyone
and this is whyI think we'll start to see
a lot more collaboration
happening in this nextyear, especially of people
like myself and otherswho are
trying to get other peopleinterested in
(30:30):
working togetherand creating new things.
And I hope this podcastepisode does that.
I hope the digital artthat's
that'sappearing on your screen
from time to time, thatCarl's voice acting,
that the music I play,
I hope that
all of that
creates a new product
that is interestingand exciting.
So definitely share
this episodewith the digital creator.
You can come join me live.
I will for the next month,be going live at 10 a.m.
(30:54):
Australian EasternStandard Time,
which is UTC on aon a monday,
which is UTC zeromidnight.
So wherever you arein the world,
if your time zone isplus three, then
it will be at 3amiexpect you to join me.
No, I mean it would begreat if you did, but
that that's probably
the easiest way ofof figuring.
(31:14):
You're figuring outwhat exactly time I am.
I do put a live pendingnotification.
So if you are in any ofthe podcast apps like
pop verse and podcast guru
and Fountain and Truefans,
you will see that there isa live notification
or a pending statusfor this podcast.
(31:34):
So that'sprobably the best way
that you'll be able to seewhen actually it is
that I'm goinglive talent.
I want to know,is there anything I can do
to make this show better?What annoys you?
What resources are similar
to the iOS appoverlap of these?
I've already mentionedbooks and technology.
If you think there'sany books
that I would findintriguing
that would be helpfulto cover
(31:55):
on this next valuefor value season.
I would love love for youto recommend
one of those.
Obviously I'd say yesand send it in via boost.
But if you don'twant to do that,
I understandI've had people send
messages to mevia Facebook.
I had a really nice onerecently on them
via Facebookfor the book reviews,
which is blew me away.
It was ait was a fantastic message
(32:17):
from someone who
really,really helped me out
and knowing whathe enjoyed,
what he didn't enjoy aboutthe the podcast episode.
So you can alsoreach out there
if you're uncomfortable
using the best gramsand things like that.
The last recommendationtreasure.
I said,
Well, obviouslyyou got a couple options
available for you.
(32:37):
I recommend usingany of the podcast apps.
If you go to mea modest podcast dot
com slash support,
I've got a tutorial guidethere
on on what they look like,how to use them
as well as some linksfor my other main shows
the mere mortals.
There's also youcan also do it directly
through the podcast
index websitethat supports the splits.
(32:58):
If none of those are
interesting to youand you like
and I want to support you,
but I just don't want to
do it throughany of those methods.
I do have a PayPal.
There is a link downbelow, unfortunately.
Obviously I can't splitthat up between everyone.
It's just too hard,you know,
if I'm sending moneylike that
back, backand forth to the ten
different peoplein my splits, it's
(33:19):
it's not going to workso great.
So what I've committed tois any money that
comes through the PayPal,
I send that onto developers
to help encourage them
to keep creatingcool products and to
and in particular appapplication developers.
So yeah, that's
that's thethe ways that you
can supportthe show monetarily
and by the value for valuephilosophy as well.
(33:42):
And the last bit here is
I suppose
just like a little bitof a personal note
as to why I took some timeaway.
I was sayingin the last episode
that I wanted to be backwithin a month.
That did not happen.
Obviously.
It took me
close to three orfour months to get back.
My mom's been sick for
quite a few years now.
(34:03):
When she she was diagnosed
with early onsetAlzheimer's and
I thinkit was the late 2016.
And I've seen thatprogress over the years.
And it is a cruel disease,Really, really cruel.
It's taken her mindfrom her
and it's now to the point
where it's taking her bodyfrom her as well.
And we got some bad newsrecently
(34:27):
that she's probablynot going to be around
with usfor too much longer.
So whilst I wantto keep doing these shows
and whilst I also want
to travel as well and so
question mark on that,
there's just some questionmarks over to,
to how long I'll be ableto sustain the season,
(34:49):
especially goinglive at a particular time.
Each time I think.
I think that could,could be kind of hard. So
if thereis an unexplained break.
Yeah, but something,
something badis going wrong.
So just just know thatand you know, it's just a
a little message hereto, you know,
appreciate your family,appreciate your friends
(35:10):
and tell themyou love them.
Tell them to
you know,and this can also extend
to your favourite creators
because sometimesthey can go away
if if they don't feel likethey're getting support,
if they don't feel likethey're getting love.
So just a recommendationto to be kind to people
and to
to yeah, just, just,you know, show some value.
(35:31):
So showsome appreciation, show
some love and lifewould be really good.
We'regoing to ended up here
we heard that song right
the start the intro musicfrom there from the Dolls
that was from this showand their song Bloodshot
Lives Blue Bloodshot Lies,which was
really my introductionto value for value music.
I thought that was justsuch a good song.
(35:53):
And I went, my God.
Like, there's some really,
really good musiciansout here who,
you know,just unappreciated.
I think that is an amazingsong and I wish it
got more recognition.
So I'll be playing thatat the end here and I
will be playing more Doorsmusic in the future.
As I said,
(36:14):
if you want a boostin this section that that
very much appreciatedbecause that boost
will predominantlygo to the doors
everyoneincluding on their split.
So here we've got
bloodshoteyes by the doors
and we'll be backnext week with some
exciting new valuefor value topics.
So take it away.
The Doerfels (36:48):
One minute I
was smiling fora picture on your phone
and now I can't avoid
sayingthat you're not at home.
Too many closing times.
Too many right away in.
You know, we're fine.
You can't believe
in all the fieldsis that your clothes
and through can't hidethe room is the person
(37:11):
that I thought I knew.
So many storylineson Singled Out decide.
Whichwhat you think is true.
I don't even know you now.
How much?
Sure you mad at me down?
Because I don't knowif we really ever got to.
(37:36):
You see you as one of us.
It brings to mindto challenge me.
You keep telling mehere, Jaime,
all these bright,shiny loves you live your.
Life in the mirror
(37:57):
and don't get any clearer.
You find a waySee through all the broken
glass.
Over to all my Saturdaymornings.
You use the show to
brighten the minutethis morning and as the.
(38:17):
Stars move by it,it was just you.
Guys.
But I don't even know.
You know, I'mnot sure you many down
because I don't know
if we really have a jobthat kind
(38:39):
of you to your sleep
to eyes were replaced
the goodbyesyou keep silently
you keep telling meyou got me a spy
shot like
(39:11):
my son
From the situation downhere, you saw so many guys
I You believe
it needs to chooseto be what you are.
That's my boy.
That's my boy.
That's me.
But I don't even knowyou now.
(39:35):
How much are you?
Bad me down three times.
I don't know if wereally ever got that kind
of how seriously to eyes.
I wonderwhy did Will's goodbyes.
(39:55):
You've been shoutingand you keep telling me.
You tell me.
he's right.
Shot Lyles.
From the past We shall learn our future.
And it'sfull of exciting art.
It's.
yes. Welcome,everyone, to the
(00:20):
fourth season of the Valuefor Value podcast.
My name is Kyrinand I am the host
of The Mere Mortals,Mere Mortals
Book Reviewsand also this podcast,
which is for digitalcontent creators.
We want to connect deeperwith the audience
and don't want to do iton the normal mechanisms
that you wouldperhaps do it through,
you know,
PayPal and Spotifyand putting up ads
(00:41):
and all thissort of thing.
No, this is for how you
can directly connectwith your audience
and using thisthrough the exciting
new modelmethod of value for value.
So it's been a while.
I'm hereon the 4th of March 2024.
I did promisethat I would be back
much sooner than this,and I obviously was
(01:02):
very incorrect about thatand you hear a bit
more about thatat the end of the podcast.
So just stay tunedfor that.
I'm going to go today
as is basically kind oflike a recap episode
of everything we coveredin the first three season.
What's coming upfor season four?
A little
look at perhapssome collaborators
that I'm working withfor this season,
and then just some stuffat the end
(01:24):
related to the BoostaGram Lounge.
Latest developmentsin podcasting 2.0.
Why Value for value?
Essentially all of thesesorts of things.
So let's just jump into,I suppose, a recap.
Recapand what the focus for
this seasonis going to be.
So season one was allabout the philosophy.
So I had episodes likeThe Value of Tough Love,
(01:44):
Why Freeze and FreeThings like This?
And it was really just
trying to explainnot only for the
for you at home,the viewer,
the listener,but for myself,
what exactly makes upvalue for value?
And it's inits core principles.
So that's alwaysthe season.
I kind of recommend forsomeone who wants to know.
Just like the deeperunderlying things,
(02:04):
Season twowas really focussed
about podcastingand podcasters
and how they wereimplementing value
for value in their shows.
And this is where we seeit was a mix of techniques
of how to ask, of
implementing
different strategiesof gamification,
of all of thesesorts of things.
And then we came onto season three
and that culminatedin my book
(02:26):
Reviews Channel
where I really tried toexplain as best as I could
how I was implementingeverything I'd learned
from everyone else.
Season three was much moreon the technical focus,
so we were lookingat technical developments.
I was really explaining
how I thoughtthe combination
of RSS, v4 V and BTC,the three acronyms
worked perfectly togetherand they worked perfectly
(02:48):
because they had a bunch
of shared propertiesself-sovereign ity
of being permissionlessof value transfer
and permissionlessto anyone to to want to,
to join access,all of these sorts of
wonderful things.
So that was,I suppose I looking at
technical things as well,
and we started to talk
(03:08):
a little bit
about some of the excitingthings
going onwith related to blogging
and how it could work.
And with that
especially a valuefor value music,
which I covered a coupleof times over there.
So season four,
what are we going to doin season four?
Well,
this is all about trying
to take a historicallook at trends
to see where we're going.
Referencing what I said
right at the startthere from the past,
(03:29):
we shall learn our future
and it's fullof exciting art.
So what
I have really been doing
over these
last three monthssince I've been away
is I've been readingquite a few books
and in particular onthe book Reviews channel.
I usually tend to focus on
older books, on classics.
So things you know
from written at least20 years ago or longer.
(03:49):
And I did do somethinga little bit different
with some of the bookreviews,
which I was I was readingmuch more modern book.
So bookspublished within the last,
you know, five, ten years.
And these would be thingslike The Inevitable
by Kevin Kelly of Freeby Chris Anderson,
The Long Tail by ChrisAnderson
Colemanis there by Lewis Hyde.
(04:10):
And the book was By orI've forgotten his name,
John B Thomson, I believe.
And this was all
just so I could really get
an idea of what'sgoing to happen with
the future of,of publishing of
of contentjust in general.
So musicobviously book was
that was all aboutthe e-book,
the e-book
(04:30):
and the publishingindustry, how that changed
and technological trends
and thingsgoing like that.
And with all of thesetrends,
I was just noticinga common theme occurring,
which is that thingsare going to change.
There's there's definitelygoing to be change.
No, Spotify is not goingto stay
the way it is
and just be like thisfor the next 20 years,
(04:51):
that that'snot how technology works.
And I think
a lot of these thingsare indicating
that we're going towards a
a more open future, a more
a future fullof collaboration of
actually usingwhat I talked about
before, before the RSS andand Bitcoin
and how they all mergetogether.
Now, what we're also
(05:12):
going to be doingthis season is
and distinguishingthe season
as I'm going to bedoing some collaborations.
So this is going to be,
I suppose, a fun,exciting new thing for me.
You have already hearda little bit of it
right at the start there,which was some music,
but I also have threepeople who I just want to
to call out and say,
you'll be hearing
or seeing partsof their work,
(05:32):
their voices,their their art
through that throughoutthis coming season.
And so the first oneI've got here is Mr.
Cole McCormick, who is ahow would I describe Cole?
So he does many differentthings.
He's a v4v director.
So he put out what I think
is one of the first films
directly created withthe value for value model
(05:54):
in mind of
putting this out
as a film,
monetising solelythrough that of
including peoplein the splits.
And you can find this
this short filmthat he created
called Magic
Mushroom Fun
time on any of your
podcasting appsbecause it is a video
that was distributedthroughout RSS
and Colehas been working with me
(06:15):
on the BookReviews channel
for about the last twoor three months
and we were doingsome quotes together
and I might talk aboutthis a little bit later
about how the modelhas to change
dependingon your audience.
And and I've found someinteresting things
related to that, to theto the book reviews.
But Cole has been doingsome quotes for me
(06:35):
because whatI was finding was
I was doing these
book reviews
and then
I tryand read them out myself
and I
just stumble over my wordslike, I'm
not that greatat sticking to the line.
I haven't doneany acting classes per se,
or if I have,I definitely didn't
enjoy them and stuckaround with them.
So he's been
helping me out with that
and what I'm going to
get him to do
and what he's agreed to dowith me
(06:56):
is to to takesome of these book quotes
from all of these booksthat I was reading,
talking about the pastand how
technology has changedand how it has moved
certain industriesin certain directions.
And he's going to behelping me out with that.
So he's
going to be providingsome quotes
from these books
and I'm going to beusing them
to form an argument
of of why I think valuefor value as a future.
(07:18):
And that is the
the trendthat we're going towards
just so you can geta taste of his voice.
I took this one.
This is one of the
favourite quotesthat I got him to do,
and this was from
which book was
The Winter of Discontentby John Steinbeck.
And so here's just alittle taste of of Cole's
great voiceacting abilities.
And we might notget the funniness of this
(07:40):
because it'll probably bea bit more dry and the,
the content I'mgetting him to read out
will be a bit not,not as intriguing
as this, but nevertheless,here's a taste of it.
Cole McCormick (07:50):
What a wonderful thing a woman is.
I can admire what they do,
even if I don't understand
why what Margieand Mary went
through their pleasantlitany.
What have you donewith your hair?
I like it.
That's your colour.
You should always wear it.
The harmless recognitionsignals of women.
I thought ofthe most feminine story
I ever heard.
(08:10):
Two women meet, one cries.
What have you donewith your hair?
It looks like a wig.
It is a wig.
Well, you'd never know it.
Maybe these are deeperresponses than we know
or have any right to know.
Kyrin Down (08:26):
Thank you, Cole.
Amazing.
And that was amazingbook as well.
I love John
Stone Steinbeckas a as an author.
So Cole, he also hasa podcast called America.
Plus,
if you want to hear moreabout him
and his his drawings,his learnings of
his waysof trying to find new ways
of communication,that's a really great,
great placeto to tune into him.
(08:47):
And he's also findable,I guess, searchable
on Twitterat Cole McCormick one.
So you want to connectwith Cole,
you'll you'll be hearing
and hearing hima lot more over these next
next couple of months.
Next,we're going on to a little
bit of a random one.
This is a guy called Sven,and I actually met him
(09:07):
at one of my localBitcoin meet ups.
And I remember he
he had a littlepresentation
where he was showingall of these
really cool gifts
that he was creatingand G.I.s s gifts.
And you'll see this nowin your chapter artwork.
If you're if you'retuning in after the fact,
if you're live with me
now, unfortunately,you can't do that.
PerhapsI will go on YouTube
(09:28):
at some point,
just so you can seethis as well,
becauseI'd be kind of fun.
But inany case, I spend has
created all of thesethings and I was like,
man, I just, you know,
how does someone like himmake money for
for creating giftsfor for doing things?
Like what?
And for him, it wasn't.
It was just a passionproject.
But I was like, you knowwhat? These are so cool.
(09:50):
I really love artwork.
I love the chapters of
putting all of these senseinto podcasting 2.0
and thankfullynow my my host
blueberry is up the limit
for what I can includeand so I can include gifts
now inin my chopped artwork.
So what you'll be seeing
is every now and thensome random little,
you know, Bitcoin things,
just to keep itinteresting,
especially if I'm onthe topic of bitcoin and,
(10:12):
and talking aboutwhy it's why it's helpful
and why it's
part of my value for valuephilosophy,
you'll see those arepopping up so well too.
Thanks Sven,very much for doing that.
He is in the splits,of course, as is Cole.
And if you want to findhim, he's also
searchable on Twitterat a Starfury Flames.
If you if you wantto connect more with him,
the final collaboration.
(10:33):
So we've got,you know, voice acting,
we've got the imageryand graphics.
We're going to havesome music. Nice.
So this is the doerfelswho is also
helping us out.
And you heard part of thevery song Bloodshot Lies,
which I'm going to beusing for the intro music
for for this season,
because man,it pumps me up.
I love that song. And
(10:56):
so the Doerfelsfor those who don't know,
are a bandbased out of Nashville,
and it's a band of fivebrothers, it's hard
to count five brothers,mom, dad and sister.
There'sthere's a lot of them.
And they've created
all of thismusic over the years.
They're not an active bandat this moment,
(11:18):
but they have this wholeback catalogue of music
and Sir TJ The Wrathful
TJ Doerfel
He heard about all of thisexciting stuff
going on with value
for valueand value for value music,
and he wasone of the first people
to truly stop
start uploading tracksand to
generatea bit of interest.
And in this valuefor value
music of people who have
(11:39):
created their musicand instead of, you know,
they had their shotand trying to do it
throughthe traditional methods
of the music industry,
of doing it
through Spotify,and they found that
it just didn'twork for them.
But they're having a kindof renaissance moment,
doing it again throughvalue for value music.
And so
you'll see now I've also
(11:59):
included the Dolefulas a as a split into this.
We'll be talkinga little bit more later
about the value of timesplits, what I can
and can't doat this very moment.
But nevertheless Willwill be playing some music
not only justfrom The Doerfels
but from other peoplethroughout this podcast,
and they will beparticipating in this
(12:19):
and helpingto collaborate with me.
And if you joininto the live stream
like Chad did beforeand I absolutely blasted
is is that because
I didn't have my levelsfully sorted out yet
which they will be,do not worry.
Then you'llalso be hearing
a lot of their music
because I'll be playingthem in my pre
stream and poststream music.
So once again,thank you for the dollars
(12:41):
if you want to find themdoleful verse dot com.
I know it's the placewhere
they're directing people
and that's spelt D O er f e l verse.COM
And then if you alsowanted to connect with t j
he's so t jthe wrathful on
the podcastindex Mastodon.
So that is,
(13:02):
I suppose my,
my collaborationis just a little bit
of what's going onfor this season
and I want to get intothe boostagram Lounge
now to thank some peoplefrom from the last episode
becauseit has been a while
and we do need to
call out some peopleand give some thanks.
So Mr. Adam Curry, canyou please take it away?
(13:22):
Welcometo the Value for Value
Boostagram Lounge.
Ooh, nice.
Thank you, Adam, forintroducing the Boosta
Gram Lounge.
So this is the sectionwhere I
give some call outs.
Thank some peoplewho have been helping to
to support the show in amonetary form, especially,
(13:44):
which I really,
really do advocate
doing itthrough booster grams,
which is where you cansend a message
directlywithin your podcasting app
and this will bein any good app.
So not all of them do it.
So placeslike Spotify and Apple
where they do not do it,but places like True Fans,
podcast, podcast gurucurio are going to breeze.
(14:06):
I'm trying to remember
medicall off the top of my head
Fountainobviously Pod friend
And is there one morethat I'm forgetting?
That could be.
But those,those are the main ones
at the very least.
And you can send a messagedirectly within the app.
It will comedirectly to me.
It will also come directly
to all the people I havein my splits,
(14:26):
which is very cool.
And this is all aboutcollaboration.
So, you know, 5%
I've allocated to going to
too many of these podcast
app developersto encourage them
to keep doingwhat they're doing.
I've got 15%going to call McCormack
because he's creatingthis music,
creating these the voiceacting clips for me
on the fly each week.
So he's having to puta bit of effort in
(14:46):
and then 10%is going to spend stuff
for your flamesand 10% is also going to
the doors as appreciationfor what they're doing.
So this is the plan,
the current set up thatI've got this read out.
Basically,I'm taking your time card.
So we have from November2nd, 20, 23,
that's a full three monthsago 2100 set sent
(15:09):
using fountainfrom McIntosh
and he says great seasonMacintosh to Macintosh
thank you very much
he is the host of theSatoshis Plebs podcast.
It's changed his namea couple of times.
He's appeared on on this
very podcastmultiple times,
each time with a new name.
So yeah.
Macintosh Thankyou very much, my friend.
And he's going to a greatBitcoin podcast.
(15:31):
If you want to knowmore about Muse and News
and the underlyingprecepts of of Bitcoin,
we have,
not only
is he appearing on herewith his crazy
voice acting, but he'shelping support the show.
We have comic, comic one,he says.
Long live value for value.
Onward to a new season,
get rested, recalibrate
the valueis all around you.
3333 sentusing fountain again.
(15:53):
Thank you, my friend.
Much much appreciated.
Yes. And I did restand recalibrate.
So I am feeling,you know, from
feeling actually sickat this very moment.
I'm doing pretty good.
Thank you man.
We have from Novembersix circus media.
And I I'm pretty surethis is circus as like sir
(16:15):
and then see you assessmedia as in he's no agenda
a night at the roundtable
and he saysinteresting explanation
in managingyour expectations
as a B for the producer.
One thing I thinkcame through, though
not explicitly,is the idea
of what you,the Creator, deserve.
That is a key difference
in V for you,the Creator does not
determinethe product value.
(16:36):
Very true. Thank you.
So whether you wereconsistent
in production or a one
and done is strictlya personal decision
and irrelevant
to the value of receivedin return
they would be wise tocontinue to.
Can you?
Sorry, this is why I getcold to read out things.
So stuff
I'm not thoughwould be wise
to continuepractising aircraft
to improveand increase our exposure.
(16:56):
One, two, 345sets sent using fountain.
Thank you very much.
Now what's great
now is nowthat the bitcoin price
has moved up tonearly 100 k Australian,
it's reallyeasy in my mind
to know how much peoplehave sent through.
And so
at this very moment,1000 sets
is about a dollar for me.
So that's,
you know, $12.34but is sent through there.
(17:19):
So thank you.
Thank you very much,my friend.
I very much appreciate it.
And yes, agreed the valuefor value model.
What I kind of describe itlike I describe Bitcoin,
which is on the surface,it's it's
extremely simple.
It's just it'sa decentralised money,
an internet money,a digital money.
You know,
what's the what'smore simple than that?
Value for value?Extremely simple.
(17:40):
I create a product
for free
and distributeit out to you,
and then you just return
some valuein some shape and form.
But then you get intothe weeds of like,
okay, if I createdin this particular manner,
you know,as a documentary,
how do I get peopleto know
that I do the valuefor value model
and get them
to return the valuefor what it's created
(18:01):
and I've seen a lot of
discussions about this,
and I think everyonehas to go on their own
individual path,
which iswhat makes it hard
value forvalue is is not a
like you said, like a oneand done type thing.
I think
even if you do that, it's
that you've got to createthe you've got
(18:22):
to create the base,the support,
the expectations ofthis is how it's done.
And I think that takesa long time to be honest.
So doing itas a one and done like one
movie and expectingvalue for value two
to work monetarilyand you be rich
and all those
sorts of things,
I don't think it reallyworks like that, but
that I, you know,that's what he said.
(18:44):
It kind of comes across.
I did see Sam Sethi,who was
streaming it a lot.
I do see a lot of my owntest booth
for this last season.
And I do see Chad,who was joining us live,
and he said
dolls in the preshow333 sets and using POD was
and then also awe do it live another 333.
(19:04):
So thank you very much,Chad.
Much appreciate it.
He's he's been sharingsome of the clips
and episodes of the value
for value show acrossdifferent mediums as well.
So I really do appreciatethat meant that
that that helps a lotand that helps a lot
and will be talkingabout value
for value in the waysyou can contribute back
shortly right atthe end of this episode.
(19:25):
So sorry.
There was one other
person who sent a messageand this was so bray.
I'm not sure I called itout on the last time,
but he said V for Vis a future of all payment
lightning crashes,and then he's got his his
was that rock emoji
and that was 3333sent using pot verse.
(19:47):
I might have calledthat out live.
If not, I didwant to talk about him
shortly because he's he's
doingsome interesting things
which are helping outmusicians.
So let's go into thissection here,
which is I suppose,
some of my latestdevelopments
and this is just keeping
you up to date withwhat's going on in the,
you know,
value for value world,some interesting concepts,
(20:10):
tests, proofs, ideasthat people are working on
and which are helpingcreators like myself
be able to monetise andconnect with the audience
at the same time.
So there's three things
I wanted to talk abouthere actually for Soledad.
So librariespoint in here.
So first one,
(20:30):
there's a new thingcoming out
called Fountain Radio.
If you go to
I think it's FountainRadio dot
if am, I probably shouldhave brought this up
beforehand.
Radio,radio dot, Fountain dot
FM is whatI wanted to call that.
And this is just a littlewebsite based thing they
(20:51):
created.
And it's essentiallylike a jukebox.
And you can,
you know,
pay to have your song
get put tothe top of the jukebox.
They've got a chat inthere as well.
It's not necessarilypeople.
They're all partsof the day.
It's kind of hardto actually know.
They don'thave timestamps, so
you're not sure exactly,
but it's worth going ontoand just playing around
(21:11):
and you're helpingto support musicians
when you're
uploading your favouritesongs in there.
And it's a great way tofind your music as well.
So Radio Dot,Fountain, Dot FM
is is
a great place for you to,to find new music and to,
to, tosend it back to them.
The next one I had here
was just a shout outto Blueberry
for implementingthe value time splits.
(21:33):
So how value time splitsfor those who don't know
is whenI as a podcast creator
can referenceanother piece of work
and all the donations
or a percentage of that,
a large percentage will goto the actual creator.
And this is essentially
how value for valuemusic is working.
So I'm going to playa song right at the end of
(21:55):
each episode.
And what will happen
is that when you'relistening to that
in a post hand,the the split,
instead of going,you know, 100% to the,
you know, 60% to meand then 50%, 50%
to call 10%to other people,
what's going to happenis it will switch
and I'll put it 90%to that musician with 10%
(22:19):
then going to to me
and the rest of the peoplewho are in my splits,
obviously that'sreducing it down a lot.
So they won't really begetting that much,
which is is kind of finebecause it's
it's musicthat that is being played.
Now. The cool thing forthis is
it's really taking offwith music
and that's
why you're seeing
all these value for valuemusic shows popping up.
(22:40):
And if you go on to
a place like Ellen Beats,which is a an app
which you can downloadonto your desktop
and I believeonto your phone,
if you go to musicshows there,
there's a wholebunch at the moment. I'll
stilldouble to read them out.
Also,I've got rolling on show
radio story on BrewsterGram Ball,
the side stream statsand sounds
(23:02):
VU for the podcastIt's a mood
the fairly fun show
black cat music podcastmixtape wave like Martin
made a music outside inwith Jemmy V
Lightning thrashesby column owner
so Lee Bright
upbeat Home-Grown hitsPhantom
power music outand before this games.
nice.
I might be addingmy own little one.
Probably not in the next
(23:22):
four months,but maybe after that.
I really think that wouldbe a fun thing to do.
And so whatthese V for the music
shows do, essentially
they will play music,they'll switch the, the,
the, the splitsto go to the musicians
while the music playing.
And then when they'retalking again
like a DJ, like aa V a VF veejay,
(23:43):
then the splits willgo back to them.
So what we're going to dois unfortunately we don't
have the ability to do itlive. Blueberry.
It doesn't do thatat this moment.
So what I will be doingis instead in
post ten, I'll be doingthe Valley time split.
So if you're listeningto this after the fact
and you're listeningto the music set section
(24:04):
segment, the splits,we go into there
to the musician.
Now what's also cool
is I'm going to do it,
for example,for that little piece
that call, righta red off.
I'm actually going to bedoing it for my own show
because that was taken
from one of the bookreviews.
So not only can you do itthrough music,
but you can also do it
through otherpieces of work.
So you could do it throughspoken word,
(24:26):
you could do itthrough audiobooks.
I know
there's there's some hints
that some peopleare thinking of doing some
some audio books
or perhaps even callwho I see in the chat.
And he sent through
1111 sites and he said,We are so back.
Yes, we are cool.
I know he even
he has been havingsome thoughts
of perhapsdoing some audio books
or some cartsor something like that.
(24:47):
So you could be ableto reference
not only music,but it could be, you know,
your favourite poem.
If someone has createdthat as a as a RSS feed
and you know, it's
in the public domainand things like that.
So very cool is excitingstuff going on with that
and you will be
noticing me implementingthat as best as I can.
(25:07):
The final oneI wanted to give
a shout out to was Home
who I think are doingreally cool things with
just thethe hosting for podcasts.
I don't know how
this guyhas got his whole set up,
but basicallyif you go over to him
at home, DotCole, help me out.
Cole is a podhome. Dot FM.
Let me quickly typein pot home dot FM. Yep.
(25:29):
And if you go there and
sign up, it'sjust a one time
like a one plan fee,which I believe is 15 U.S.
a month.
And he's even
got some promo codesand things like that.
And you can createas many podcasts
as you wantand put in all of these
sorry, 16, 1599 a month
(25:50):
and put
in all of theseexciting things
like chapterslike using value time.
So it's like being ableto go live.
I know Cole McCormickdoes that with his show
America Plus as well.
So lots of interesting,
cool thingsgoing on there.
And Ithink it's just worthy
shouting outthe hosts like Blueberry
who are
implementing thingsand and and Barry at home
(26:11):
for implementing
the tools that creatorslike myself want to use.
So super, super cool.
Finally there was ThunderRoad dot Media.
So if you are a musicianand you're wanting
to get started of using
puttingyour music up online
so that people can find itand so that,
(26:32):
you know, peoplelike myself can play it,
this is a great placefor you to go to
because hehe basically does
all of the work for you.
He he helps create it.
He takes a 3% share.
It's a it's a pretty goodpretty good service.
I haven't used it myself.
So I'm just using like
(26:54):
from what I seefrom the outside,
it looks likea pretty good service.
So he's definitely doing
some really cool thingsand I would recommend
people would go thereand try that
if you are a musician.
Thunder Road DotMedia is How to to type
that into your browserand find that
okay,the last section here is
(27:15):
just a little
section herejust just talking about
why I really encouragepeople to,
to use all of the coolnew technology.
And I had a chatwith this guy
called Trevor recently,and I did this on the Me
Models podcast
and Trevoris a pretty big v4v fan,
but he's nota Bitcoin fan.
And so he was just sayinglike,
(27:37):
you know,
I feel there's too muchemphasis being put on the
of doing all of thesethings through Bitcoin.
Like it's hard.
Peopledon't understand that
there's better optionsof doing it through PayPal
or Patreonor things like that.
And we had an interestingdiscussion.
What I personally wantto do though is is like
(27:59):
I said, this is more onthe cutting edge.
This is more meexperimenting
with new tools, newtechniques, new tactics
with the new technology.
And I think it justhas some very,
very superior benefitsthat whilst are difficult,
they're difficult.
Like the Internet wasdifficult back in 1995.
They're difficult likethe social media platforms
(28:21):
were in, you know, 2008.
It takes time to get usedto these things.
It takes timeto test them out.
And for a relativenewcomer to to
come in to them,
I can say in the lastthree years
they've gotten much,much better.
Sending a boosthas never been easier.
Getting some Bitcoinand Lightning Network
has never been easier.
(28:43):
It's still hard,
there's no doubt.
It's still
it's still a little
bit hard, butit is getting easier and
the thing is,
it just enablesso many more cool things.
The splits,it's programmable money.
I think it's just a
like it is a revolutionarything to
to be able to use
And so
that's why advocatesadvocate for it so hard.
(29:06):
And this is nothing to dowith Bitcoin itself
in termsof whether you think
it's a good investmentor anything like that.
No, this is just mesaying like,
I encourage youto use these things
because I think they aregoing to be the future and
I think it is worthwhile
playing aroundwith them now
and being able to connectwith with your
(29:26):
favourite creator,or if you're a creator,
being able to connectwith your audience
because it'snot just about the money,
it is aboutthe whole value for value,
respect the whole valuefor value philosophy.
So that gets me on tomy last little thing here.
Time, talent and treasure.
This is how you can helpsupport
this value for valueShow time
Sharing this episodewith a digital creator.
(29:49):
It would be amazingbecause this is the
type of peoplewho I really want
to try
and direct this towardsso that they can know
whether they bea musician,
whether they be a digitalartist like like Sven is,
whether they be a voiceactor,
whether, you know,whatever their art is,
whatever it is
that they're creatingand that can
(30:10):
be distributedin a physical medium,
sorry,in a digital medium.
I think this
this kind of philosophy
can can reach outto everyone
and this is whyI think we'll start to see
a lot more collaboration
happening in this nextyear, especially of people
like myself and otherswho are
trying to get other peopleinterested in
(30:30):
working togetherand creating new things.
And I hope this podcastepisode does that.
I hope the digital artthat's
that'sappearing on your screen
from time to time, thatCarl's voice acting,
that the music I play,
I hope that
all of that
creates a new product
that is interestingand exciting.
So definitely share
this episodewith the digital creator.
You can come join me live.
I will for the next month,be going live at 10 a.m.
(30:54):
Australian EasternStandard Time,
which is UTC on aon a monday,
which is UTC zeromidnight.
So wherever you arein the world,
if your time zone isplus three, then
it will be at 3amiexpect you to join me.
No, I mean it would begreat if you did, but
that that's probably
the easiest way ofof figuring.
(31:14):
You're figuring outwhat exactly time I am.
I do put a live pendingnotification.
So if you are in any ofthe podcast apps like
pop verse and podcast guru
and Fountain and Truefans,
you will see that there isa live notification
or a pending statusfor this podcast.
(31:34):
So that'sprobably the best way
that you'll be able to seewhen actually it is
that I'm goinglive talent.
I want to know,is there anything I can do
to make this show better?What annoys you?
What resources are similar
to the iOS appoverlap of these?
I've already mentionedbooks and technology.
If you think there'sany books
that I would findintriguing
that would be helpfulto cover
(31:55):
on this next valuefor value season.
I would love love for youto recommend
one of those.
Obviously I'd say yesand send it in via boost.
But if you don'twant to do that,
I understandI've had people send
messages to mevia Facebook.
I had a really nice onerecently on them
via Facebookfor the book reviews,
which is blew me away.
It was ait was a fantastic message
(32:17):
from someone who
really,really helped me out
and knowing whathe enjoyed,
what he didn't enjoy aboutthe the podcast episode.
So you can alsoreach out there
if you're uncomfortable
using the best gramsand things like that.
The last recommendationtreasure.
I said,
Well, obviouslyyou got a couple options
available for you.
(32:37):
I recommend usingany of the podcast apps.
If you go to mea modest podcast dot
com slash support,
I've got a tutorial guidethere
on on what they look like,how to use them
as well as some linksfor my other main shows
the mere mortals.
There's also youcan also do it directly
through the podcast
index websitethat supports the splits.
(32:58):
If none of those are
interesting to youand you like
and I want to support you,
but I just don't want to
do it throughany of those methods.
I do have a PayPal.
There is a link downbelow, unfortunately.
Obviously I can't splitthat up between everyone.
It's just too hard,you know,
if I'm sending moneylike that
back, backand forth to the ten
different peoplein my splits, it's
(33:19):
it's not going to workso great.
So what I've committed tois any money that
comes through the PayPal,
I send that onto developers
to help encourage them
to keep creatingcool products and to
and in particular appapplication developers.
So yeah, that's
that's thethe ways that you
can supportthe show monetarily
and by the value for valuephilosophy as well.
(33:42):
And the last bit here is
I suppose
just like a little bitof a personal note
as to why I took some timeaway.
I was sayingin the last episode
that I wanted to be backwithin a month.
That did not happen.
Obviously.
It took me
close to three orfour months to get back.
My mom's been sick for
quite a few years now.
(34:03):
When she she was diagnosed
with early onsetAlzheimer's and
I thinkit was the late 2016.
And I've seen thatprogress over the years.
And it is a cruel disease,Really, really cruel.
It's taken her mindfrom her
and it's now to the point
where it's taking her bodyfrom her as well.
And we got some bad newsrecently
(34:27):
that she's probablynot going to be around
with usfor too much longer.
So whilst I wantto keep doing these shows
and whilst I also want
to travel as well and so
question mark on that,
there's just some questionmarks over to,
to how long I'll be ableto sustain the season,
(34:49):
especially goinglive at a particular time.
Each time I think.
I think that could,could be kind of hard. So
if thereis an unexplained break.
Yeah, but something,
something badis going wrong.
So just just know thatand you know, it's just a
a little message hereto, you know,
appreciate your family,appreciate your friends
(35:10):
and tell themyou love them.
Tell them to
you know,and this can also extend
to your favourite creators
because sometimesthey can go away
if if they don't feel likethey're getting support,
if they don't feel likethey're getting love.
So just a recommendationto to be kind to people
and to
to yeah, just, just,you know, show some value.
(35:31):
So showsome appreciation, show
some love and lifewould be really good.
We'regoing to ended up here
we heard that song right
the start the intro musicfrom there from the Dolls
that was from this showand their song Bloodshot
Lives Blue Bloodshot Lies,which was
really my introductionto value for value music.
I thought that was justsuch a good song.
(35:53):
And I went, my God.
Like, there's some really,
really good musiciansout here who,
you know,just unappreciated.
I think that is an amazingsong and I wish it
got more recognition.
So I'll be playing thatat the end here and I
will be playing more Doorsmusic in the future.
As I said,
(36:14):
if you want a boostin this section that that
very much appreciatedbecause that boost
will predominantlygo to the doors
everyoneincluding on their split.
So here we've got
bloodshoteyes by the doors
and we'll be backnext week with some
exciting new valuefor value topics.
So take it away.
The Doerfels (36:48):
One minute I
was smiling fora picture on your phone
and now I can't avoid
sayingthat you're not at home.
Too many closing times.
Too many right away in.
You know, we're fine.
You can't believe
in all the fieldsis that your clothes
and through can't hidethe room is the person
(37:11):
that I thought I knew.
So many storylineson Singled Out decide.
Whichwhat you think is true.
I don't even know you now.
How much?
Sure you mad at me down?
Because I don't knowif we really ever got to.
(37:36):
You see you as one of us.
It brings to mindto challenge me.
You keep telling mehere, Jaime,
all these bright,shiny loves you live your.
Life in the mirror
(37:57):
and don't get any clearer.
You find a waySee through all the broken
glass.
Over to all my Saturdaymornings.
You use the show to
brighten the minutethis morning and as the.
(38:17):
Stars move by it,it was just you.
Guys.
But I don't even know.
You know, I'mnot sure you many down
because I don't know
if we really have a jobthat kind
(38:39):
of you to your sleep
to eyes were replaced
the goodbyesyou keep silently
you keep telling meyou got me a spy
shot like
(39:11):
my son
From the situation downhere, you saw so many guys
I You believe
it needs to chooseto be what you are.
That's my boy.
That's my boy.
That's me.
But I don't even knowyou now.
(39:35):
How much are you?
Bad me down three times.
I don't know if wereally ever got that kind
of how seriously to eyes.
I wonderwhy did Will's goodbyes.
(39:55):
You've been shoutingand you keep telling me.
You tell me.
he's right.
Shot Lyles.
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