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Kyrin Down (00:00):
I want to support
my favourite podcaster,
but how?
Welcome everyoneto another episode
of the Value for Valueshow.
I'm your host, Kyrin,the host of the Mere Mortals
and Mere Mortals BookReviews podcast as well.
But this is the podcast
for those digital contentcreators
(00:21):
who want to connect deeperwith their audience
and find waysfor their audience
to connect more deeplywith them.
Indeed, we're going to befocusing on
how your audience can helpconnect with you today.
This is going to beparticularly
for podcastersand podcasting,
but we're going to seesome interesting stuff
coming out with the valuesof value music
and I believeand even some video stuff
in the future.
Stay tuned for a couple ofepisodes. Time for that.
(00:44):
I'm going to be doinga bit of a different one
todaybecause it's a live audio,
but with a pre-recordedvideo
because I'm going to bedoing a run
through of all the coolpodcasting apps
that allow for boostto grams
and allow for people
to send in support to youwith messages
that you can receiveon your phone
on your desktopwithin the actual
app itself,
there's all sortsof really cool ways
(01:04):
that we're going to dothat.
Today is the 11thof October 2023
and I'm coming herefrom lovely
sunny Brisbane as well.
I've got all my audiopanel set up here.
I've got my lightingset up,
so this is probably one of
the best produced onesI've ever done actually.
So it's it's kind of cool.
So I am going to be
(01:25):
talking to
this pre-recorded video,
so it's going to be ahopefully
a best of both worlds ormaybe the worst of both.
What we'll find out,but we'll see how we go.
So if you are tuning in
live now, I'm
goingto stop playing the video
and you can followalong with me here. Now.
So basically,what are the things
that we want to be doing
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for someone to support youis to actually
get some money, get
how they actually goingto be able to do that.
And so we're going to be
acquiring some Bitcoinon the Lightning Network.
Now, there's a couple of
different waysthat you can do this.
It can also be acquiredthrough things
like Strike and Cash
OP wherever you arein the world.
But I'm goingto be showing you the ALBY
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browser extension.
So this is going to be the
probably easiest wayfor anyone in the world
to be able to get to,
because all you need to gois to a website.
So as you're seeingright now,
if you go to get allbecome,
there's ways to log in.
I'm going to skipthe login process
and we'renow just looking at
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what you actually see.
So you've got a wayof being able
to receive lightningfrom different addresses,
Bitcoinfrom a different address.
So if you've got the cashup of strike
or something like that
or elsewhere in the worldwherever,
and then you can actuallytop up within the actual
get Albisection of the website.
So this is whereit'll be connected
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to like Muun Payand basically
all you need to dois have a,
a debit card
or a credit cardor something like that,
and you can do itwithin there.
They're going to suggestbig amounts.
I would suggest just do itwith something small.
So if you've gota favourite podcast
or you want to support,
just put in like 50 bucks,100 bucks
or something like that
is worthwhile to you
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and that you can feelyou can afford.
Now there's allsorts of things that are
really beneficialfor podcasters as well.
So if you are listening inor tuning in
and you're a podcaster,
a get Albi
address is kind of a
necessity at this stage
because it can link toso many different places.
And if you're a supporterand you want to
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and you're like,Oh, I don't want to deal
with all of these things,it's pretty cool.
So you can do thisalmost one and done
and then get Alby
is really going to be ableto let you access across
various different apps.
So there are other wayssome apps have a built
in mechanismfor you to earn it.
So this would be things
like podfans or Fountain,
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which have thesegaming mechanisms
and then others have ways
for you to top up withinthe actual app itself. So
get allthese is pretty cool.
You can only do this onthe desktop at the moment,
but it does havesome functionalities
that will allow youto connect with things
through through the mobile
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using these differentpodcasting apps.
And there's all sorts ofother things that'll show.
So you get transactionsand things like that.
Let's jump onto the firstapp, which is Fountain.
So Fountain is
a podcasting appthat's pretty recent
and I suppose one of the
best features about itis that it really focuses
on the boostingon the social aspect.
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So if you're goingthrough it,
you see there'sall sorts of notifications
of when people have liked
or sent yousmall portions, you know,
ten sets, 100 sets hereof all of Bitcoin.
And they really dofocus on showcasing, okay,
this is what other peopleare supporting
their shows, other showsthey're supporting.
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And you can seebig amounts
with the BolaBoost section.
They've got hot shows
and I think the
discoverability onthere is really cool
for this aspect
of seeing
what other peoplereally like
and they're staying aheadof the trends as well.
They've just implementedthe hot 100 tracks
which are Values for Valuemusic as well.
(05:12):
And you can seeas you go through it,
it does havethis social aspect.
I've got my own profile.
There's a whole bunchof followers
on thatand people following me.
And you know,
you can seewhen I've created clips
and commentsand things like this.
So it's it's very mucha podcast.
It's a really solidpodcasting app.
And I've chatted withthe one of the founders,
(05:33):
Oscar Merry, three times,I think on the
Mere Mortals podcast.
So you can really get aan aspect
or a find outof of what he is like and
you cansee as well on the app.
So the app is really good.
I actually it'smy daily driver
and I've orderedall of these based
on how much I use thempersonally.
So when I'm kind of givingthese recommendations,
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their recommendations
based on whatI actually use.
So when you gointo the app
and you're playinga podcasting episode,
you'll seethat's the boost button.
You can stream incertain amounts as well.
I'm just writing here
to a showcalled America Plus,
which I really enjoy
by Cole McCormickis boosted
in a couple of timesto this show itself.
So it's kind of this
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you, you know, continuouscycle that goes on.
And yeah, basicallywhat you just do is
you send, you selectan amount that you want.
I really like 2222 so alsoknown as a row of ducks
and because I kind of looklike cute little ducks
and so I'm just writing
a message to him heresaying,
you know,I'm boosting along for the
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for thewalk through of this show.
You're going to see thismultiple times happening.
I really enjoywhat you're doing.
Great episode.
Cole Then I hit the boostbutton and then,
you know,
confetti flies everywhereand things like that.
So that fountain,it's a pretty good
podcasting appI really enjoyed
and is definitely my
my daily driver,
the next one I'm going onto now is podverse.
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And so Podverse is an app
that's been aroundfor quite a while.
It's on desktop and mobileand so
you can kind of connectwith with both of them.
I'd say it doesn't,it doesn't have as much
social aspectsas fountain,
if any, to be honest.
But what it does have isthe connection with Alby.
So with Fountain,for example,
all ofit was kind of built in.
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They had their own builtin wallets with pods.
First, it'srelatively easy
to connectyour Alby account.
All you needis the password and your
your emailwith your username
that you used
one clickand then you're back in
and you're like, Oh shit,I can actually support.
So you can see herethey've
reallyfocussed for Mitch on
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I guess likethe accessibility aspects.
So I was showingtranscripts
and things like thatbefore.
At the moment I'm goinginto the office hours 2.0,
a show by Chris Fisher,which I really enjoy,
and you can see
it brings up the chaptersand images
and it's got a whole lotof the podcasting
2.0 features as well.
With that, I really justfind it intuitive.
(08:03):
This app,
it's the queuing,for example,
I really enjoyedthe transcripts.
I mentionedthe accessibility.
It's open source,
as I mentioned
in one of the lastepisodes,
talkingabout that as well.
And you can searchin the transcripts
and Mitch himself,the developer of this
or one of them actuallyhas just quit
his full time jobfor at least
the next three months
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and is working on itfull time.
So really,really cool with that.
And you can definitely
expectto see more podcasting
2.0 features appearingand yeah, really, really
awesome app
that I usequite a lot for,
for different features
like I saidfor that queuing.
So I find thatreally useful for
when I'm learning Germanand things like that.
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Once again, I'm justwriting a message here.
You want to just look outfor things that say boost
or boost a gram andwrite a message to them.
Now how does this actually
get directly to themwhile they will have
the podcast?
And if they're set upfor value for value,
not all of themare at the moment.
I think there's about
12 to 14000 somewherearound that range.
(09:06):
Go back to the
the stats again,you can see when you're
sending in a boost gram,at least in pod verse,
you can see
where it's exactlygoing to and the amounts
which I thinkis actually really cool.
I do like that feature
knowing, okay,
this is wheremy money is actually going
to whenI'm supporting them.
The confetti fliesup shows on the screen.
(09:26):
So you know, it's gonethrough.
Everything's really cool.
You enjoy doing that
and it gives you a warmfeeling inside.
So that's another appthere.
Let's jumponto the desktop version.
So this is Curiocaster.
It's been aroundfor a while
and so this is a desktoponly app.
Once again, connect withI'll be really quick
(09:47):
once you've got this Albything
set up, it's so simplejust to connect to various
different apps
and you can try outdifferent ones
and like podverse,for example,
you could do
a listen
to a show on the desktop,and then if you bring out
the mobile, it would bethere as well.
Cura stuff.
Like I said, it'sbeen around for a while
and it's part of StevenB's App Emporium.
(10:09):
I've talked about Stevenbefore.
It's not really hismain focus at the moment.
You could kind ofsee there
he's got this Discover
Discover page,which hasn't been
updated foreverbecause my him,
the Mere Mortals
podcast is an old logoI was using from ages ago.
But once again,the connection
you can changeyour stream settings
and he has beenfocusing on music a lot.
(10:31):
I'm bringing up now
the Boostagram Ball,which is Adam Curry's show
aboutvalue for value music.
And then there'sthis other or someone
I stumbled upon recently
called into the doerfel verse, d o e r
and then verse,
and it's this bandof like this family,
brothers, sisters,husbands, wives, cousins,
(10:53):
who are all just theseamazing musicians.
Episode seven ofthat was hilarious.
It was such a good
one of the most intriguing
podcasts I've ever comeacross. To be honest.
But yet.
Curiocaster
It's got a lot
of the functionalities,chapters, transcripts,
shows, evenjust like different apps.
You can support in
in the show notesthat Mitch
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scramble showingand he's very much
focusing on musicat the moment.
So he's got
his other projectsof like LN Beats and
the music side projectand the split kit.
So there'sthis great episode he did
on Bowl After Bowl,an interview actually
showing showcasing like
(11:36):
how he's really into selfsovereignty
and you know whatthis app means to him
because it's on desktop,it's really easy to
to write out these boosterdiagrams and things,
you know, fiddling aroundwith your fingers and
and whatnot.
So I find it
a lot quickerif I wanted to write
a big messageto someone, as in,
you know,
more than 500 characters,that sort of thing
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or 400 characters,
I would do thatand it's also super quick.
All of this stuff works
really, really quickly onthe on on here at Costa.
Let's jumponto another one.
Podfansthe new app on the block,
the new kid on the block.
So I've actually had SamSethi, the founder of this
on the models before.
(12:18):
If you felt likechecking that out
and this is a progressiveWeb app.
So you'll noticewith a lot of these,
they have a,
you know, a desktopand a mobile version,
probably abouthalf of them have that.
And if they don't have italready,
they're planning on itand their fountain
is planning on creatinga desktop version.
And the good thingwith the progressive
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web app is you
can you only have to usekind of one code base.
And so
when they make changes,they go out everywhere
and they go out instantly.
And so
Sam is basically putevery single thing
that he could findinto this.
So it's got the value timesplits, it's got paddle,
it's got transcripts, it's
got value tag, it'sgot everything in here.
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It can also, you know,cook your dinner for you.
So what what's what's
really cool aboutthis is Sam cares a lot.
It's likely to havesome growing pains.
This literally came outI think a week and a bit
ago, two weeks ago.
And at least for the themobile version of this.
But thankfully,it's really sweet.
(13:22):
Once again,you connect with Alby.
And the cool thing with
this isyou can earn stats in here
so you can seeon the screen here
I'm just basicallyearning things
by doing actionson the on that.
So, you know,
playing a podcast,becoming a podfan,
writing a boosta
Gram Creatinga clip is a calls them
I think actionsor prompts.
I forget the actualterminology
(13:44):
but basically you can earn10,000 sets
just by usingthe app itself.
You don't even need to
come in with a walletif you don't want.
You can just play around,do things
and you'llyou'll find like,
Oh shit, I'mactually getting
a little bit of moneyhere.
Like, what's,what's all this for?
What's this?This is kind of cool.
So basically
I think you still needsto work on some of the
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aspects of the intuitionbecause he's put so much
into thisthat finding things
can can be a little bitdifficult at times.
Like you just want to hit
the boostagrambut it's like,
Oh no, I have to go into
the episode itselfand then find it.
I know he's fixing thisand I know he cares a lot.
So this is a really,really cool thing that
that he's up to here.
(14:26):
You can see at the moment
he did a interviewwith Mark Asquith
pretty recently onI think it was called
Podcast Accelerator.
And so I'm just coming
into hereand I'm writing a boosta,
Gram saying, you know,I really enjoyed the show.
He can actually do it
so that you can boostagram
in at a certain pointif you want to.
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This hasn't been used much
I know I personally whenpeople burst into my show
I just don't have timeto go back
and find at what pointthey exactly boosted in.
Usuallyyou have a good memory
and it's obviousfrom the message itself,
but I knowsometimes it can be like,
Oh wait, they're referringto something
of a three or four hourepisode from weeks ago.
(15:10):
Like, I've just forgotten.
I don't know what they're
actuallyreferring to there.
So having this abilityto actually check it out
and know when they boostedwill help you
as the podcastergo back and find.
And speaking of that,
he's actually
creating a lot of thingsin here,
much like Fountain did,where you as the podcast
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can actually access
a lot of thesecapabilities
that your hostmight not have.
So, for example,the pod roll,
you can go in to Podfans
and you'll be ableto create a little pod
roll for your show there.
Once you've claimedyour show,
there's all sorts of other
little hiddengoodies in the back end.
It's it's
kind of like a minihosting solution in a way.
(15:52):
So it's it's usefulin that aspect
of just jumping in andbe able to try things out.
I boosted into the showthere
and yeah
a very cool
app oneto definitely look out for
and probably is goingto jump up on my list.
Podcast Guru is the nextone that I've got here.
So it's a mobile app
predominantly,although I have seen
(16:13):
they've got a cheeky web
app inthe in the beta version.
It's very solid.
It's been aroundfor, for a fair while.
A couple of theseother ones, such
as Fountain Pod fans arereally, really curio
Caster They're all recent.
Only a couple ofyears old.
This one'sbeen around since 2018
and they're really just
jumping now into thepodcasting 2.0 aspects.
(16:35):
I think they were lookingfor a little bit
and now I know Jason,
I've been chattingwith one of their
the developers of
and I'm
not exactlysure what he is, but
he can do things, youknow, change your name.
I would recommend tryingto do that instantly.
Whenever you're wanting to
support into a show,it is important to
look.
I know as myselfas a podcast,
(16:56):
if someone boosts and
I want to be ableto thank them properly.
And so if it's just listdoes anonymous
or user 2635 45blah blah blah
I'd actuallyprefer having a
a user name tobe actually thank someone.
So podcast guru.
They've if you look intotheir little blog section,
they've got somesome cool stuff
there related to
(17:17):
what they'reactually doing
and why they're doing it,why they're
starting to adopt2.0 tags.
Really greatfor discoverability.
I really like thissearch function.
I find that
one of the best thingsabout this app itself,
you can see now I'm justjumping into podcasting
to point out here
similar to our podcastdoes,
it brings up a big sectionshowing where your
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your supportis actually going to,
whichI really, really enjoy
because I know I myselfhave multiple splits
on most of my shows.
And so I
yeah, I like the peopleat home to know,
oh yeah, you're actuallysupporting not just me,
you're supportinglike six different people.
If you boostinto this show
once again
doing my,my standard amount here,
the numerology iskind of important.
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It makes it fun.
So, you know,
if you want to send ina birthday boost
or a anniversary boost,send in the role force.
If it's the fourthanniversary
I know on the OfficeHours, the Jupiter
Broadcasting shows people
like to boost
in their postcodethe zip number,
which is kind of a funlittle thing.
You can make a gameout of it.
(18:22):
Now, one of the coolthings about podcast Guru
is the Lightning Rule.
It's kind of cool.
It's it's differentfrom the confetti.
I like thatlittle touch to it.
And it also justhighlights that
with all of this boostingand stuff, sometimes
it's going to be in a bitextra.
It's not necessarilygoing to be the
the amountthat you think it is
(18:43):
because there's fees andall sorts of other stuff.
Let's jump on to anotherone here.
This is Podfriend.
We're going back
onto the desktopfor this moment,
although I believe
this is a progressive Webapp as well.
So you can getit on your your mobile.
This has been aroundfor a long time now.
Not a long
so a short time,but long in podcasting
2.0 worldSo he was right there near
(19:05):
the Nina start
I suppose
the cool thing
with pod friend is Martinfocuses a lot
on the design aspects,
so it's really slick in
terms of moving from placeto place, intuition,
everything just kind oflooks really nice.
And he's got
a little sectionof, of a pop up showing,
okay,this is what a boost is.
This is what it means.
(19:26):
And so you could see that
Podfans
also has
a very helpful sectionof prompting of being like
this is what this means
and this is how you cancan kind of learn from it.
So very similar, you know,bursting into a show.
You type out a numberthat's meaningful to you.
I write a row of stickshere above Richard's,
which is a funny one,and I'm just bursting
(19:49):
into the pod.
News weeklyat this moment.
Previously I was pushing
into podcasting 2.0,
so definitely another showthat you should
check out
to know
about all of these things,especially
if you're more inclinedto the tech sort of stuff.
And soyou get Pod News Weekly.
How I actually foundpodcasting
2.0 was throughJames Cridland,
(20:09):
one of the hostsof that show.
So very helpfulone to get to you know
you boost in and
another cool aspect of itis that it's it's
just got these features
like if you bring up
a certain show podcasting2.0, for example,
you can see the different
faces popping up of who's
talkingwith the transcript,
which is just anice little feature
(20:32):
he unfortunatelyisn't working on.
It's super hardas much as some of the
previous ones that I justmentioned.
He's got a full timeday job.
There's Martin Mouritzen.
And so yeah, lots of stuffgoing on with him.
So he's that app.
Don't expect itto be constantly updating
with all the coolnew things
like much of the others.
Let's jump onto anotherone breez here.
(20:53):
So this is the secondto last.
This is more of a pointof sale
terminal with somepodcasting chucked in.
It was kind of funny.
So if you go into the app
it's you have
to click on the topleft corner,
really make sure you're
finding the podcastingsection.
Otherwise you'll be like,What the hell is this?
It's very,very simple interface,
which is actually nicein a way, uses the anytime
(21:15):
player background.
So if you've used any timeplayer before,
you'llnotice it from that.
Real simple.
It only shows valueenabled shows.
So if you're looking for
other showsoutside of that,
this is not the placeto come.
It's only going to showthe 13,000 that
have enabled this.
And yeah, once again,very simple interface.
(21:36):
You go in there,click on a show,
you've got your boostbutton, you're streaming,
and once again, it'skind of it's a basic one.
It's not designedas a podcasting app.
It's a point.
It's a it'sa lightning wallet
with some podcastingattached to it.
Now, the good thing aboutthat is
you can top up withinthe app.
It's got a
(21:56):
lot more functionalitiesin terms
of sendingyour bitcoin elsewhere.
So if you wanted to use
it, for example,to send some money to
a guy at the local Bitcoinmeet up that I go to
who has cookedsome steaks,
you saw thatright at the start of this
section where it wassaying, you know,
sending some moneyto brisket for
(22:16):
for his his steak.
So yeah, just writinga small message here.
If you want to knowmore about bitcoin,
I'm sending this boostagramto the generation
Bitcoin show by Mcintosh.
He's got a LightningNetwork update.
Very, very helpful help handy and helpful for that.
And for the last one here,we're on to Castamatic.
(22:36):
So this is an iOSonly device.
So I've used thismaybe once before
because I have aAndroid phone.
So I didn't manage toto grab a
a friend'sand be able to use hers.
So once again,
this one you just connectwith Alby,
type in your details.
(22:57):
And so you can see medoing the full
logging process hereusing one of my accounts,
all of this stuff.
It's importantto recognise
all of thisis kind of new.
All of this is kind ofuntested.
It's it'stested in the sense
like we've been using itfor a couple of years,
but there's alwaysthe chance that
something could go wrongand you don't want to be
using lots of moneyfor all of this stuff.
(23:20):
So I wouldI would put it this way
whatever amount of cash
you keepin your physical wallet
or something
that you'd be comfortablekeeping on yourself,
don't exceed thatfor any of these things.
So for me personally,
I wouldn't want more
than a couple of hundredbucks on any of these
because if I lostmore than that,
that would really suckand I would feel bad.
So you can see,
(23:40):
like at the momentI've only gotten,
you know, like 10,000
sets, 20,000in this wallet,
which I wastesting around with and
becauseI use it everywhere.
So there's a
there's a chance
I could dosomething wrong,
that could be somethingsilly, etc., etc..
All of these apps,a pretty good idea,
and they've been verytrustworthy at this,
(24:00):
you know, after multipleyears of using it.
But there's alwaysthe chance that
money can go missing.
So justjust keep that in mind.
If you're boosting inor playing around with
with any of these things.
So cosmetic, it's
like I said,I haven't used it much,
but I've heard that it isin terms of
just an actual app itselffor the audio experience,
(24:23):
it's probably
one of the best onesand you'll see
some of the aspects here
when I get to it.
It's got a lot
more functionalitiesin terms of being able to
various speedchange the volume
levels, enhancethis, to enhance that.
So in termsof the actual experience
of listening to audio,
this is probablyone of the best ones.
(24:44):
Once again,
this is justa recommendation
I've heard from others.
So I can't say,particularly
at the moment,I'm just sending a booster
from hereto Curry & the keeper.
This is another oneof Adam Curry's shows.
So just,
you know,
helping to support himand spreading the word,
I suppose
a value for valueso people can try
all of these differentapps and,
you know,
(25:04):
hopefully people will cometo the video of this
and be able to see,Oh yeah,
this is actually kind of aa cool thing.
Once again,the confetti comes up
and yeah, I,
I can't
give toomuch recommendations
on this particular one,but it does have
the very nice experienceall of the audio
(25:24):
and then it also has,you know,
some functionalitiesattached in here as well.
So that is going to bethe end of the
actual video sectionof highlighting the apps.
And yeah,there was eight there
that I listed through
and I'll talk morein the kind of tips
sectionabout how you can actually
think about these things,
(25:45):
how to make sure you're on
top of everythingthat's going on.
So until that though,
I'm going to
get into my BoostaGram Lounge section and
shout out
some people who helpedto support the shows.
Welcome to the Value forValue
Boostagram Lounge.
(26:07):
This is a Value for
value podcast, the valuefor your podcast.
And I just do reallyappreciate anyone who is
sending in support of via
all of these mechanismsthat I was just
talking about here.
So because we areon the 11th,
I'm going to have to jumpback to the fourth here.
(26:28):
Once again.
I can see lots of pod fans
donations coming in.
I really would enjoy
recommend checking outthese live episodes
because they are
they do just providea different dynamic.
You could, for example,
have been watching
the video along with meas I was doing this,
which would have beenkind of fun.
And so I saw some paymentshere from Adam Curry
(26:50):
and Sam Sethi.That was for the
streaming.Thank you very much.
I see here Kolomonaand he says, Good show.
I enjoyed your thoughtson the similarities
between open sourceand V for V. Sir Libre
Lightning Thrashers,Rock on Lightning.
So you sent 3333 thosesome lucky numbers there
using fountain.Thank you very much.
(27:10):
And he comes backimmediately
afterwards and saysanother great show.
Thank youfor sharing your numbers.
It has helped inform
my expectationsfor my V for V show.
Lightning thrashes.
So this is one of thosevalues of value music
DJ sets.
I suppose sohe plays music.
I'm not sure if he talks
in the mean timehe probably would
about the music as well.
(27:31):
Introducing what
the next songthat is going to come up
value switches.
And then as you'relistening to that
and supporting that moneythen goes to the artist.
So once again,this is all about helping
to support your favouriteartist, your creator,
and to be able
to send them a messageat the same time.
So me for example, withall of these messages,
(27:52):
they really,
they kind of needto know what they're
doing and if they don't
acknowledgeon the shows themselves,
it might be worthreaching out
via any of the socialmedia sites
and saying like, Hey,are you
receiving my messages?
Because I've done thatbefore.
And it kind of sucks to
to not
to thinkthat you're sending them
support,you're sending them money,
but it's just going outinto the wild
(28:12):
and then not actuallyrealising it.
So this is just abouteducation.
People knowing that
you can actually senda message within the app.
And me, for example,it goes on to my discord,
it goes onto my telegramand I check the wallets
where like I'll be,where it says
the message in it as well.
So very helpfulin terms of that.
Just worth recognisingthat sometimes
(28:34):
peoplewon't necessarily know
that it's goingdirectly to them.
I see.
Still, I was listeningin, I see Taylor Williams
was listening in.Thank you very much.
I saw a chat beforesending some
some bignumbers coming through the
app. His streamingpayments were huge.
They were like 600and something.
So thank you very much.
Chat that were
pretty much boostright in there themselves.
(28:56):
Silvio Dos Santos,Sam Sethi,
all of thesecoming through POD fans.
So very, very much
appreciated to be ableto see the streaming.
I don't normally see
streamingfrom the other apps,
but with the wayPod fans is set
up, it's comingthrough into my actual
section hereof being able to see that.
So that'swhy I'm calling them out.
So if you are streamingand I haven't
called you out, apologiesfor that.
(29:17):
It's just not as visibleas it is through
the through Pod fans.
And then I've gottwo last ones here.
They came in today,very early morning for me.
One just says Satoshisdots stream 50 cent
using breez. Okaythank you.
It's it'srare to see a breez
one come in
so I really doappreciate it
and this is from premitiveone and he says Satoshis
(29:38):
dot stream.
This is Prem from Miami.
I host bitcoinbrunch Sundays and co-host
the Saturday NightLight podcast.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much,my friend.
One, two, three, four.
Sent using brazeand I do appreciate that
you change your namebecause a lot of those
that come throughfrom breeze a mint lion
and I've been guiltyof this myself.
You have to go into thekind of top left corner
and change your name,which is I never even
(30:01):
I don't think you couldchange it before,
but now you can, which isvery, very useful.
So yeah.
Thank you
everyone who helpedsupport the show
to stream in really warmsmy heart.
Gladdens me
that all of this stuffis getting used
and that people are beingable to support their
favourite artists,
the content creatorsand things like that.
(30:21):
And it.
Yeah,it just is just so cool.
It's such,
it makes so much intuitivesense
to be ableto send a message
and supportsomeone directly
within the podcastingapp versus,
you know, imagineif you're on Instagram
and you're watching
and you'relooking at someone
who puts really greatphotography up there
and imagineyou're what you're seeing
(30:42):
all these photos,you're appreciating it,
you want to reach outto them or support them.
And so you have togo onto Twitter
or you have to send theman email.
It makes zero sense.
And it's just so it'san extra barrier,
whereas all of this stuffis just
lightningquick, lightning quick
and makes so much senseto do it within the actual
app itself.
(31:02):
So I'm so glad
all of these appsare coming along
and there's so manydifferent options as well.
So there's no realexcuse to say,
Oh, I don't like this appbecause
blah, blah, blah, Well,
you know, try outone of the other
eight different one, sevendifferent ones that are
that havethese functionalities. So
which gets
me on to my, my little tipsection here.
(31:24):
So what's, what'sreally powerful about
all of thisis they all play
well and followa similar style.
So if you look forif you've got a podcast
in 2.0 up in new to this,you want to help support
a podcast
because they mentionedlike, Hey,
you can do this viaa podcasting 2.0 up
you like, okay,well I go in and I get it.
(31:45):
The experience of
using a new app is like,I don't know what this is,
I don't knowhow to do this.
All I would say is, one,you know, check out this.
I've donea full walkthrough
so you can get
a visual representationof what you need to do,
troubleshootevery problem.
But I hopethis has helped.
But you can also just
look for thingslike lightning bolts,
(32:06):
like the wordsboost and value for value.
They typicallywill show up and they're
typically withinthe actual episode itself.
So once you're playing,
that's when you see on the
screen, Oh, I can do this.
And if you have an app
which doesn't do that,you know, it's
it might be worthreaching out to,
to someoneto to that app developer.
So say you're on overcast
(32:28):
you might as wellor podcast addict
might be worth
reaching out to themand to say
like hey I,I want to do this,
but you don'thave it in your app.
Are you going to supportthat or things like this?
And you could even
just tryout one of these ones now.
And by their ownadmission, these,
these guys aren'tcompeting with each other.
So Oscar, Merry, Sam, theyou know,
(32:51):
what's his namefrom costume
Castamatic Franco CelerioMitch from Pod versus
they would all saythey're not competing
with each otherfor these functionalities.
All of these
functionalities are waysof drawing people in from
the bigger apps.
And so it's likebecause a lot of them
won, for example,don't play nice Spotify,
(33:12):
they they trying to create
their ownlittle walled garden.
I've talked about thisbefore
whereall of these features
that we have, it'sbecause everyone's playing
nice and agreeingto play by the rules.
But Spotify is like,
No, I'm going tocreate my own chapters
and I don'treally give a shit
if it doesn't workelsewhere.
I'm doing this justbecause it works for me.
I'm going to create video,I'm going to do this.
I'm not goingto send out RSS feeds.
(33:33):
It's they'renot playing nice.
And so the
if you want to usesome of these features,
you'llhave to reach out to them.
But I personally don'tsee them ever
adoptingthese sort of things
because they don'tthey don't want to.
There's other reasons.
So for example, Apple justdoesn't really innovate.
They've been ableto create chapters
(33:55):
and transcripts and things
like this foreverif they wanted to.
It's not hard technically,
but they just don'twant to innovate.
They don't want to createthese new things.
Whereas the podcastingnamespace and what allows
all of these differentapps to come in
and create thingsin an environment
which is fosteringthat kind of open source,
that ethos of everyone'shere to,
(34:18):
to create something new,to innovate,
to do something funand exciting and a way
to play by the ruleswhich aren't set in stone.
You have to do this rules.
You can helpcreate the rules yourself.
So all of these appdevelopers,
they've all madesuggestions,
help improving thisand to make things work.
And it's it's really coolenvironment to come into.
(34:39):
I really like it
all these other appsfor example Google
they just straight
don't care they just gotrid of the Google podcast.
I think it was the thirdor fourth biggest app
in terms of downloadsand the like.
Now I'm just goingto scrap it
and go over the YouTubemusic
doesn't really make sense.
It's probably notavailable in your country,
but you'll be fine.
And it's like, All right,well why?
(35:00):
Why should I care?
Why should I
go over to YouTube musicif you're not
creating new things
and doing stuff,which is awesome,
such as this,
you know,being able to boost
and podcastsand support creators and
make the world a betterplace, dare I say. So
a lotof what you'd like as well
(35:20):
tends to be drivenby small things.
So I've I'm very muchusing these apps
because I love the ability
to to boost in youyourself.
That might be the fifth
priority for you,but you really enjoy
the audio experience.
Okay, well, maybe trygoing on to cosmetic.
Give that a try.
You might really likeaccessibility features.
(35:41):
Okay.
Well pop versehas that for
or you like the ability
to be ableto play on your desktop
and then play
on your phoneand it automatically knows
exactly where you arein that in the set.
In that same pointin the episode
in Podverse,
does that great
Podfans, I imagine, willdo something like that.
You might like the abilityto have something
(36:04):
that goes really quickand is lightning fast
and just works basicallyevery time, you know, go
over to Curiocaster
You might wantthe social aspects.
This is where it's worthgoing over to.
FOUNTAINand being able to interact
with peoplewithin the actual app.
You can create a littlesocial environment there.
You might want somethingthat is more better
(36:24):
for discoverability.
This is where I would saypodcast guru kicks in.
You might want something
that is moreof a functionality
to be able to use
the wallets to be ableto send this Bitcoin
and stuffyou've got elsewhere.
Use something like Breez.
You might just wantsomething that looks nice
and has likea couple of cool features.
Try out podfriend,you know, there's
(36:45):
so many different reasons
to try them outand you'll find out
eventually like, okay,I really like this one
just for thisone little feature it has.
And the cool thing is
that there is so manydifferent ones here.
So that's a lot ofinformation for you there.
I'm going to go to my app
and servicehighlight here.
(37:05):
Look,
the list of all of these
can be foundat podcast app Ask.com,
or if you go to podcastindex dot org slash ops,
you'll also that's whereit eventually links to
this.
What I've shown here is
probably onlygoing to be relevant for
I don't know,six months, 12 months
if that because
there's so much new thingscoming out,
(37:26):
there's so many excitingthings happening
and new apps are poppingup all the time.
Two weeks ago,
Pod fans was not availableon the mobile.
A year and a half ago,
a couple of theseapps weren't.
I wouldn't have talked
about podcast guru,for example.
So in the recentlyadded stuff,
all of these thingsare a changing, adaptable.
(37:46):
And so if you go tothis location podcast apps
.com, it's
got a good listshowing there and showing
all the featuresthat they have.
What you'll noticeis that the ordering
there is based on
how much they've
adopted ofthe new namespace is
do they have portal, dothey have value timeslots,
do they have transcripts,do they have chapters?
All ofthese sorts of things
(38:07):
play a role in that.
And so what you'll noticein that big list
and you'll see onyour screen at the moment
is that the the ones which
have most ofthese features
are the ones that I talkedabout just now,
because these appdevelopers, CEB,
said they want to make ita better experience.
And so
you'll see on the bottomof that list,
(38:28):
there's a whole
bunch of appsthat are there,
but they might have onlyadopted one or two
or three of the tags,
and certainly not the mostimportant one to me,
which is the the boostto grabbing
to be being able to sendvalue back and forth.
So that'sthings like you know,
Sphinx pod Stationand even pod
on the podcastindex website
where you can sendin boostagrams as well.
(38:50):
I didn't talk about thosejust because
they're not reallyin development.
They aren't that
interesting of an app perse to go to for example.
So you know the podcastindex website, that's
that'smore of a directory.
It's not really an apppod station.
Yeah,you can listen to it,
but it's a browserextension, which
(39:11):
I haven't heard muchabout him, the developer
creating and making thingsmore exciting
and doing stuff with that.
So I didn't really talkabout that.
And Sphinx
was oneof the first places
you could actually sendand boost to Grams,
but they've gonea very different route
and they're not
particularlya podcasting app.
So I didn't talkabout those ones.
But in the futureI probably will talk about
(39:33):
more thatthat will come through.
So if you just want
to keep aheadof the latest things,
the podcasting 2.0 show
and and even produceweekly
probablythe best places to
to learn more
about
what's going onin the app world
and you'll probablyhear podcasters
when they startfinding out
about this stuffsaying like,
hey, try outsome of these apps.
(39:53):
And so
here's a good list of
them. Is his eight,
which I think arepretty rock solid.
Let'swrap up this episode.
So it's the valuefor value section.
I was for this show,
whileat least for the season
I've been giving 15% of mymy splits here
to someone who I thinkis worthy of development,
of doing cool, really,really cool things.
(40:15):
You'll notice if you goonto the miyamoto's show,
I have
I think a six, five or six
app developerswithin my splits there,
and I've been doing thatfor it for a fair while.
But one person I haveneglected
was Jasonfrom Podcast Guru.
So 15% of this episodeis going to go to him
because I have supportedmost of the other app
(40:36):
developers,or at least the ones
at the top of the listthat I use a lot,
and I'm startingto use podcast guru more,
so I really appreciate him
and just want to sendsome support his way.
I might be doing an extravideo, really focusing
on the step by stepand guideline on how to
boost through podcast guru
because we're talkingchatting back and forth
(40:58):
and it soundedlike something that
might be useful to himand useful
to me at the same time.
So that could beanother little video
like this popping upon, on.
I'll probably post iton the main models channel
or if podcaster has aYouTube maybe on there.
But yeah,just want to support.
I'm very big on
supporting app developers
(41:18):
and so if you supportthis show,
you support the models,
you are supporting
these app developersat the same time
to creatinga better product,
to making an applicationto rule all the other
and not tryingto rule them,
but certainly to,
to create something thatI believe is better than
things like and Apple who
(41:39):
dare I say theydon't care about creators
putting out thereI'm set up
so how can you supportthis show?
Well, there's threedifferent ways
you can do this throughtime, talent and treasure.
Look to share this episodewith someone.
I've done this in audio
and video form,so I would recommend
for this onein particular.
The video aspectis pretty important.
So sending thisto someone,
(42:01):
being being linkingto this episode, in fact,
if you a podcasterand you're recommending
to your
to your friends,to your supporters,
to whoever it is,
hey, I'd love you to helpsupport the show.
This is howyou can visually do it.
You need to get a new app,
his eight different ones,
which you can test out,have a look at,
go through this,walk through.
(42:22):
If any of them seeminteresting
intriguing to you, youknow, grab one of them.
So linking to the videothat I've created for
this would be very,very helpful.
I would very muchappreciate that.
Joining me live as well.As always, kind of fun.
I do enjoythe interactions.
Hasn't been too much today
and it was a bitof a weird one.
I saw one here asking
(42:43):
way from the beginningof that video,
so I should have been
a bit more clearat the start too,
to say
like press the videonow that I am
because I set up thislittle one beforehand.
So the video you'll seeit's the Schmidt live no
looks beautiful one.
You can join me.
You can help support mewith some talent.
So I think I've set upthis room pretty good.
(43:04):
But if you're still here
hearing some audio,
some feedback,
if you think there is anapp that I should be
have talked about more,
if there's something
that you think I missed,please reach out to me
and I'll I'll dolike a little make good
or I'll talk about thaton the next episode.
Resources that are similarto the ethos
of of what these appsare doing and hell,
(43:27):
even some like bookrecommendations
or other appsthat you think
are really interestingor enjoyable,
anything that you thinkwould be useful to me
in creating the Valuefor Value podcast
and creating a betterpodcast and talking about
ways that
digital content creatorscan can be supported.
I'm very intrigued to know
(43:48):
all of anyand all of those things.
And then the last one,you know what to do.
I just given you
a whole frickinbunch of things
that you can do to helpsupport this.
So try out one of theseapps is all they ask.
You don't haveto boost to me.
So the mere mortals,the minimalist book
reviewsor to the value for value
just boost to a creatorand help spread the love,
(44:09):
spread the joy,
all of the splitsand stuff.
I don't think I need totalk more about that, so
we'll leave it therefor today.
Thank you very much.
Only three more
episodescoming out for this season
whereI will be talking about
a bit of a clipsand compilations section,
so showing how casingyou can do value for value
as a as a podcasterand the kind of techniques
(44:32):
very similar
to what I did in
season two,which was showcasing
how other podcasterswere doing that.
I think I'll do another
read through of that,
but in the wholebig bunch section
I'm going to be talkingabout video
and how video you can helpsupport
video creatorsthrough value for value.
And then I'll do a littlesum up and farewell.
Not to worry,because I'm pretty sure
(44:52):
I'll be startingseason four
only afterlike a couple of weeks
or a month breakor something, because
I'm really enjoying thisat the moment,
having a lot of fun it so.
Yep. Sothat's it for the moment.
We'll be backsame time next week
doing the same thing,going over value for value
and finding out how youcan help support creators.
(45:13):
So we'll leave it therefor today.
Chao for now, Kyrin out.